We don't want to live in Putin's fantasy 😂😂😂 It's dystopian there. We just want a better future.

@yerianarikavargassanchez

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Die haben die letzten 😊😅😅

@yerianarikavargassanchez

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😊😅

@yerianarikavargassanchez

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😊

@yerianarikavargassanchez

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😊😅😅😊😊

@yerianarikavargassanchez

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Ja 😊😊😅😊😅

Amazing amazing amazing talk! Thank you so much!

We are definitely, as Yuval says at 2:28, 'living in the dreams of dead people', which also is, in a sense, living in the dreams of the 'living dead', i.e. the dreams of those who can only deal with the clunky model of the world that simplistically massages their coarse kind of damage. And we all contribute to it. A naked blast of nuanced reality needs to wash through us somehow.

Without the military industry there would be many new stories that can be written but are being destroyed.

The idea at 9:26 that we haven't learned enough from history and that maybe being because it either has not been taught well enough or maybe is being controlled too much (by the 'dreams of the dead' or the 'dead dreams of the living dead') taps into what's common to both of those explanations: i.e. that, in the first explanation, history often isn't absorbed enough at a deeper emotional level, maybe again via how it's abstracted to bigger patterns and not seen as sharply as it should be at the individual, experiential, emotional level, and therefore not only not felt deeply enough, but also not sufficiently systematically and thoroughly extrapolated into a structure of principles (or maybe it was at earlier times, but whatever created that and constructed it has been taken for granted and therefore forgotten and left to atrophy); and that, in the second explanation, the 'comandeering' of history that these politicians engage in is very much a desire to cling to that big picture and simplistic collection of black and white antagonisms, because it offers comfort exactly because it is such an impoverished, simplistic, and non-personal viewpoint, where real human feeling does not need to be engaged. Both become 'avoidant strategies'; one where the information isn't processed properly, is avoided on some level, maybe both emotionally and practially; the other where a model is imposed that facilitates that shallowness of processing and therefore the lack of need to feel or really act from any genuinely human perspective. Discomfort not just at putting ourselves in the shoes of others, but at looking each other in the eye.

Wow, thank you for these thoughts, I really enjoy the way they express themselves in a very compassionate manner. Great characters. 💖 from Austria 🌹

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Imperialism concerns the exploited areas. Colonialism is the exploitation of the efforts of the subjects. Offering services in exchange for data or for free is the pursuit of hegemony. Hegemon makes us dependent on its technology.

Imagination is a really interesting, paradoxical thing. It itself probably comes from a need to stand back from direct reality and extrapolate and project in order to create a structured idea in our minds of how to respond. That response simply evolved for our survival: we encounter problems, we take any time we might have to abstract ourselves away from the moment into a structure that considers contexts away from it in both space and time, and find ideas of solutions that we come back and implement. Therefore its not a 'disembodied' place where we exist separate from reality, but a place reality takes us into, and from which we return to reality, and, in fact, a part of reality like anything else. Imagination then is a dynamic, moving, ever changing process, where we travel through roads and landscapes we create in our minds 'ahead of ourselves' and even that's too narrow an analogy. But it's moving and changing, a process, not a solid thing; just like life is that; just like culture is that. But we can create simplistic structures in our imagination that are far less of a process, and far less flexible. We can create big, clunky structures on which we can hang our agression. We can basically contruct our imaginative pictures to provide a way to both avoid the cause of our damage to to vent the anger of our damage outwards. We can reduce it to something far beyond a healthy, living process. Or we can do the opposite. 'Escapism' is neither good nor bad in itself, because if it's taking time to explore open and free representations of our world or even how we might imagine it to be beyond our actual possible experience, we can engage our human subjectivity positively in that way and nourish and develop it, but we can also create more rigid and clumsy pictures that help us avoid that deeper human response. The battle isn't between being in the world of imagination or in the actual, physical world, but of how fluid the imagination is and how much or little our subjectivity finds connection via it. A 'Buddhist' approach of being in a mind state of being as near to 'nothing' going on in the imagination as possible, is not one 'exiting the body' or of doing anything against imagination, but actually one of being as in tune with the moment in the body as possible, with as little of the imposition of the 'previously imagined' as possible; so therefore a 'loosening up' of the imagination; more an actual strengthening of the power to imagine creatively, to let new perceptions and images and ideas come from that, and to forever do so, instead of clinging to the comfort of the past, or the past's supposed 'imagination' of (more a projection of itself into) the future.

Thank you, Neil.

What Neil says at 7:42 about a 'critical mass' and how the majority are actually 'the nice people, and the sensible people, and the sane people', is a simple key 'mechanical aspect' of it all. Whatever they say about a Russian culture that resists democracy, the mechanics that drive the main manifestations of that supposed culture are still in the hands of a very narrow and small part of the population. Across Russia there is nonetheless a semi-hidden potential 'critical mass' of subtle perception, will to freedom, sanity, responsibility, genuine care, open-mindedness, etc. The answers aren't in the 'big pictures' of culture that anyone creates, which means looking at it all from far to high above and at all too low definition, but in the responses of each Russian individual, which, sadly, are directed in their attention all too much by this 'dead dream' of those who claim to be able to explain that culture and its aims. Letting go of having to define their culture would be a big start for them. It is what it is, only could have grown out of the contribution of each individual within it, and only is a culture while that continues to be a process, not a clinging to an idea of itself and what it was. Those in power holding onto the 'dreams of dead people', or 'the dead dreams of the living dead', are defining and directing how it manifests itself in obvious and surface ways, but that isn't a culture. Take the restraints and constraints off and there is life under it all just the same as anywhere else, but that structure, a kind of zombie mechanism, stubbornly protects itself by pushing real life and culture down. But that life is there all the same. Of course. I guess the 'the nice people, and the sensible people, and the sane people' just need a way to create a critical mass to express themselves properly. It's easy for those single idiots in each village to get together and create an obvious mass, because they have such simple ideas and such lack of reflection in expressing them, so the majority of the sane, if we are confident it exists, needs to find a way to put its collective mass together coherently despite its greater complexity and shifting nature, in order to become 'critical' and shift the balance. Where and how we've lost this is the big question maybe.

I don`t know what is my sin for just being born like this, with this dna and my brain, I can`t believe this, 21 century

#MAHSA_AMINI

The part about data colonialism (Yuval) is soooooo good.

Neil seems closer to grasping THE WAY ... Yuval, historian, sees things thru the failed lens of TIME, the paradigm of "The Ends Justifies The Means" ... thus falling into another doomed Timeline. (the consciousness that created the problem, is not able to fix it) ... 13.56MHz SeaWaterAsFuel Teach at HighSchools Make Electricity at a Community Level Garvey Energy Project #KanziusEffect

@oldbikeguy411

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How can the lens of TIME be failed, or fouled? TIME just IS. Perhaps a failure involving 'time' might be a fouled interpretation of the events, but time itself can not be qualified, or personified.

I liked the story about the sewage system. Just proves that a country with massive natural resourses, instead of making life of an average Russian comfortable. The government maschine, through absence of freedom of speach, and ignorance and obedience of its population, brings tragedy to the families of recruited Russians and massive tragedy and destruction to the neighbouring Ukraine.

@Volodymyr_GlaVy

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Both of them, Yuval and Neil, are close to the natural conclusion: this community does not want to live better, it only wants others to live worse. Like the residents of the Gaza Strip. Especially if it is their cultural or ethnic “brother”. Killing the “better living brother” is a biblical story.

Inspiring.

I’ve heard a lot of negative things about Yuval so i came here to listen to his perspective, give him a chance. He is good at calling Putin out about wars and invasions etc, does anybody hear him talk about Western invasions into Middle Eastern countries? He is from Israel, he can’t not know about them right? Iraq, Syria, Libya? Does he not know anything about West arming Ukraine since 2014 and provoking Russia by attempting to get Ukraine to join to NATO and have nukes? He seems clever enough to be able to see the story from both sides yet he doesn’t. This is literately great to listen, two very sensitive and peace loving people talking poetically about world affairs and trying to make sense of why conflicts happen, tie things to history.. But clearly they only make these touching speeches when it suits their agenda. “My God Yuval, haven’t US learned anything from past wars? Still wars in 2022?!”. Why don’t i hear you asking this? Here i was ready to listen and get to know you, i made some effort. You are not fair, you are not sensitive to human suffering, you are not objective. And we will win, not you. Ordinary people will win.

@ceeemm1901

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“My God Yuval, haven’t US learned anything from past wars? " Yes they have- That you can make shitloads of money for your cronies out of them.

21:21 GAIMAN on C.S. Lewis and J.R. Tolkien: "...the only people who really hate escape are jailers..."

I live in the dream of dead people who wants limited government whose primary job is to preserve individual rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It's all the masters and slaves who continue to reject this dream to our great loss.

I don’t understand how you can have such an opportunity to invite 2 leading thinkers, with amazing potential for discussion, and then give the hosting job to someone who struggles with English, is difficult to understand, and not good at steering the ship. Who signs off on that? It’s a shame.

Nice trick! Liberate yourself from the past and start mixing imperialism/colonialism. And boom! Harvesting data suddenly became imperialism (if it was not slip of the tongue)! Well, were Opium Wars imperial or colonial wars?

It is foolish not to separate the artist's work from the artist's personal life. I don't see people refusing to drive cars because Henry Ford was a racist or not eating sandwiches because of something the Earl of Sandwich did or didn't do. To throw out great literature or music or films because someone in the process was not a perfect human by modern standards is as ignorant as whatever racism or religious or political conflict itself is. On another point, I would call the Ukraine a proxy war for the U.S. The U.S. is not concerned about the rights of Ukrainian peoples, but glad to use them as meat barriers to weaken their perceived competitor Russia both physically and through propaganda. Be clear that I am not saying the Russian leaders are right in instigating and continuing this war, but I am saying that the people driving the government of the U.S. would not allow the country to become involved if there were not something they see as a gain in helping the Ukrainians.

9:37 Ding ding ding, you have a winner! Not to be mean but yeah, history is taught poorly in this names and dates focused curriculum. Because you can test memorization, you can't accurately measure philosophic debate and moral growth in a standardized test.

they think my microtubules are like jesus and they need the clone for the "promise land" . They torture me in advanced because of that. My life is now, and not inside a clon, they don`t respect my life now, it`s my life, I can`t believe this

Harari is a star compared to a very tedious Gaiman

america needs do do more on destabilazing russia in the caucasus and turkpeople in central russia, and try to create there a second conflict, which can be later scaled into a conflict( war)...

Sorry Yuval, but you simply can't use the framework of history to understand the futures. This is not how futures work!

Ukraine good Russia bad? Yuval seems to think everyone is on the same page with him, whether it's COVID, the war, or climate change. Doesn't seem to have room for any variations.

@markwickens2756

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Where have you been all this time? Under a rock?

@MrJohn360

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I agree. Yuval's comment about "the lack of access to a Health care system" can be said of USA as well.

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Will the Palestinians have a future and freedom?

@ceeemm1901

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Only if they have a consistant supply of rocks.

Talking about the power of storytelling, imagination and fiction in the context of Ukraine - aren't those the tools that brought Zelenski and his team to power? I'm an outsider, so I might have a wrong understanding of the situation, but - they were comedians, absolutely nothing to do with politics, and then they're created this TV show, a story with Zelenski as a president, and somehow, seemingly accidentally, made both viewers and themselves believe in it, and then made it a reality. It's quite surreal, having a comedy TV show play a crucial role in a country's history. Did they even had a clue this could happen when they started creating this story?

I`m living a torture

@ceeemm1901

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Then try loving a tortoise

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It`s a ritual, they want my microtubules in a clon, death ritual, they show me beheaded all the time, like saying, you die cain , like if I were cain . incredibleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, I really need help

@ceeemm1901

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You really need to stay on your chlorpromazine...

@caroh2756

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@@ceeemm1901 Illuminatis, salgan de la cueva

@ceeemm1901

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@@caroh2756 Haha🏚Watch out for falling houses and say hi to the lion in the wardrobe 👹

@caroh2756

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@@ceeemm1901 illumiati asesinos

Harari trying to seem human. Lol

Boring waiste of time. More and more interviews that Yuval participates are becoming in some kind of books promo to the "golden billion" Analytics about Ukraninan conflict is so poor and infant. It's really funny to hear about Putins expectation, believes and plans, propaganda and whats good and bad from such an educated historian. I think Yuaval know the story better, but this knowledge will not sell books, if this knowledge will be pronounced.

How to make Christ real to his devotees? In the ceremony of the Mass, the priest takes a piece of bread and glass of wine, and proclaims that the bread is Christ's flesh, the wine is Christ's blood, and by eating and drinking them the faitful attain communion with Christ. What could be more real than actually tasting Christ in your mouth? Traditionally, the priest made these bold proclamations in Latin, the ancient language of religion, law and the secrets of life. In front of the amazed eyes of the assembled peasants the priest held high a piece of bread and exclaimed "Hoc est corpus!" -(This is the body!)- and the bread supposedly became the flesh of Christ. In the minds of illiterate peasants, who did not speak Latin, "Hoc est corpus!" got garbled into "Hocus pocus!" and thus was born the poweful spell that can transform a frog into a prince, and a pumpkin into a carriage. Yuval Noah Harari (21 Lessons for the 21st Century, Penguin Random House UK, Vintage, 2018, page; 329)

Terrible interviewer !

@AngloSaks666

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Give her a break. She's giving nice, simple, straightforward 'seeds' of questions to them to allow them to 'grow' an answer out of them, so putting the focus on them and their ideas, which is good. The series of ideas that follows is coherent and gets richer and broader as it goes, so that shows she made good choices. She's also doing it in a foreign language. Could you do better in Ukrainian?

@alexandertumarkin5343

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@@AngloSaks666 I think her mother tongue is Crimean Tatar, so English is her not even second, but fourth language (after Crimean Tatar, Ukrainian and Russian).

@amiraarmenta8506

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@@alexandertumarkin5343 Yes it's correct. It is difficult to speak well in a language that you do not mastered. But precisely for this reason she had to prepare the questions better, even write them and read them. It would have been better, she would have achieved a better coherence of the dialogue.

@ceeemm1901

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@@amiraarmenta8506"" It is difficult to speak well in a language that you 'DO NOT MASTERED' ".....Well said, Grasshopper, but first, snatch the pebble from my hand and then it will be time for you to leave

Freaks...🤢