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Dang, what a range monster! These will be killer with Supercharger access.

@marcusrose5943

10 ай бұрын

Or right now

@brandenflasch

10 ай бұрын

@@marcusrose5943 until you need to charge

@RyanWilliams222

10 ай бұрын

@@brandenflaschHey, Electrify America works at least 30% of the time!

@graham2890

10 ай бұрын

If this was in my price range, it would be in my garage.

@osuave7811

10 ай бұрын

​@marcusrose5943 Not enough range. 400+ is the key. It has a high potential of reducing the need to stop and charge. But on the other hand it could potentially benefit the consumer supercharger bottleneck in the near future.

Just watched your EQS 450+ range test. We have same vehicle with same 21” wheels. We consistently see 400+ miles of range albeit more local commuting vs steady 70 mph highway driving. Owned Mercedes for 20+ years, this one is the best!

@Wised1000

10 ай бұрын

I must concur!

I love that Mercedes still makes sure to put a sunroof shade on their EQ models so many Electric vehicles don't and I don't understand why

@speedycatz

10 ай бұрын

Cos sunroof makes the interior hotter in the afternoon, forcing the aircon to work harder, hence reducing the range.

@Carfan678

10 ай бұрын

@@speedycatz so wouldn’t it make sense to have a shade to cover it… that’s my whole point all these evs with sunroofs but no shade for it

@Tschacki_Quacki

10 ай бұрын

@@Carfan678 An integrated sunshade makes production more complex and expensive but this is a 150.000€ car anyway so who cares.

Wowza. That range is a bladder-buster! The EQS SUV is amazingly quiet on the highway. And I like its heads-up display.

289 Wh/mi X 375 mi = 108.4 kWh; 107.8 advertised so really good going on getting all the battery.

WARNING: EQS owner here - to all the people praising the EQ series, remember this. Mercedes will NOT update your updateable car with any new features. If purchased, beware that you'll own the car for its lifetime with no new features, while seeing new software-only features appear on newer, cheaper models or even new model years of the exact same vehicle (stuff that could have been delivered to you). Note, I'm still happy with the EV itself, but terribly unhappy with the way Mercedes is just ignoring updateability in such expensive, vehicles that were advertised as updateable. So disappointing. Happy to provide details, including MBUX versions, specific features, etc.

3:11 It charges faster at 90% SOC than my Bolt does at any point. 😂

@Wised1000

10 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@kentyler3962

10 ай бұрын

And it only costs $105,000. lol

@RyanWilliams222

10 ай бұрын

@@kentyler3962 Good point! I could’ve gotten five Bolts for that price, at least if I got them all for $20K like I did my used 2017 with 40K miles on it.

@kentyler3962

10 ай бұрын

@@RyanWilliams222 Yep, that's the only way I can afford an EV. (a few years old, 15k-20K range)

I have the EQS 580, just took a road trip with my wife to visit our grandson and daughter of course from Phoenix to Charlotte North Carolina. Mileage was not as good as the 450, but then again I was averaging 80 mph and running full AC. The 580 comfortably gave me about 200 miles with 50 to 80 miles left. I took it from 100% charge to about 20 or 25%. I might say that the trip cost $0.00 in charging as Mercedes has on top of the 2 years free (30 minute) charging, between May and October 2023 they are allowing free charging unlimited. As such charging from 20% to 90% or 100% took about 40 minutes on average but it was free. The trip was fabulous as we traveled through 10 states. The 580 was smooth and very comfortable, set it on cruise and it drives itself, there is a 30 second alert that beeps until you put your hands back on the steering wheel but it still offer relief from driving long distances. Love the 580!❤😊

I have the EQS 580 , i am soo happy with it. I love it more than my old car Tesla model X

The only US tester I can watch, as a European

Two of the three luxury German legacy manufacturers are getting the EV thing right. More competition and innovation are they way, awesome.

@darthrevan9144

10 ай бұрын

Which one doesn’t in your opinion? Mercedes and Porsche built great cars with EQS and Taycan, BMW and Audi built very very good cars with the iX and the Q8 e-Tron so I think they all have the tech and understanding

@jasonblair4057

10 ай бұрын

@@darthrevan9144 The Q8 needs to work on its efficiency to catch up to the iX and EQS & EQE.

Nerd tip, Mercedes is using the "+" sign in the model name to indicate the range maximizing model variant within the lineup. Not sure if they do so in the US, but at least in Europe, Mercedes is selling FWD/RWD and AWD variants, so the single motor variant with the big battery is mostly getting the "+". It seem they're getting rid of the EQ labels, maybe the "+" is also being dropped with the next gen BEVs. Anyway, great result for the EQS!

Nice to see a car actually make it's quoted range.

@Wised1000

10 ай бұрын

In fact no, it smashes it's claimed EPA by 20%!

@krafter324

10 ай бұрын

@@Wised1000 yes! Love that. Tesla needs to start doing the same. Don’t tell us about range increases, just improve real world highway range.

Thanks Kyle for another great reviuw. This car has a massive I-want-this-EV-right-now feeling. And that interior....

This vehicle with a nacs port gonna be a very compelling package

@InternetDude

10 ай бұрын

it already is

Kyle, food for thought. You actually went 385 miles. The speedo is off by .0285 percent. Ex) speedo show 68 when going 70 mph. The odometer is calculating at 68 mph vs 70 mph. So for each 70 miles you go you are showing 68 miles. 375 x 1.0285= 385 :-)

@doggytreats1122

10 ай бұрын

The speedo shows speed not distance. So, the velocity travelled does not infer anything about distance. However, each tire has a circumference and that multiplied by pi gives a distance per each tire rotation. Tires that are over or undersized compared to that expected by the vehicle will provide an inaccurate distance. So unless the actual circumference is known, the distance calculated will always be incorrect if not a standard manufacturers size (unless it is possible to adjust that within the car's system settings). I've never seen this on my ID4 menu but I remain on the standard 19" wheels and standard rubber. So Kyle, that's food for thought too.

@robbystewart8088

10 ай бұрын

@@doggytreats1122 the odometer reads from speedo as distance traveled. The GPS Kyle used provided the actual speed. 👍🏻

@doggytreats1122

10 ай бұрын

@@robbystewart8088 No, the odometer uses tire rotation. I did make an error before though. I should have stated that Tire diameter multiplied by pi is the circumference. So one rotation of the tire gives a certain distance. Using the speedo could work if only if you had an accurate average speed and you know the total trip time. Distance = Velocity x Time

@robbystewart8088

10 ай бұрын

@@doggytreats1122 the odometer and the speedometer utilize the input feed/reading from the calculation on tire rotations. It would actually be illegal for them to be different, considered odometer fraud.

@doggytreats1122

10 ай бұрын

@@robbystewart8088 Good that you agree that tire rotation needs to be known and therefore tire circumference matters. That info goes to the odometer to show distance. Meanwhile, the rate at which the tires turn e.g. so many revolutions per second is sent to the speedometer and that shows speed. Odometer (diistance) = Speedometer (velocity) x length of time driven. So now if you imagine that size of the tire was like a hot wheels car, the speed reading at '70'' (tires turning wildly) would actually be a walking pace and the distance would be reported as enormous for just driving around one block.

Geez that is way better than my plaid x. So much for Tesla being the “most efficient “

@brunoheggli2888

10 ай бұрын

Never believe anything from Tesla!

@GameOver556

10 ай бұрын

Tesla are so outdated. Kia and Hyundai owners are laughing when they see a Tesla slowcharging 100-150kW at 50% Soc.

@AG-ob3fx

10 ай бұрын

I guess merc has bogger battery

@carperdiem8754

10 ай бұрын

@@AG-ob3fx more efficient and bigger battery

@Tschacki_Quacki

10 ай бұрын

My Model 3 is also better than your Plaid X ....when it comes to range.

BMW uses brushed separately excited synchronous motors in all of their models and MB permanent-magnet synchronous motors (brushless). BMW developed theirs in-house, that's probably why it is so efficient. MB buys them from Valeo and ZF, but will also go in-house from 2024 on.

@Francis-yc9nc

10 ай бұрын

they have taken over yasa and they try to add some EQXX technology's to upcoming models. it sounds promising.

This vehicle is targeted to Out of Spec Dad-expect him to trade up any week now.

@doomsday9973

10 ай бұрын

Yup the Lucid will get traded for the merc and the model 3 will get traded for the refresh as soon as it drops

Awesome work! I love these test because as demonstrated EPA range is a one sided story. Kyle can you create a spreadsheet with all you range test so that we can easily reference back to your test?

Shouldn’t you also use GPS distance? If it was under quoting the speed it would’ve under quoted the distance.

@commandojay1915

10 ай бұрын

That's what I thought too. He mentioned up-sized wheels. Does the car take them into consideration in the calculations, if diameter is different? GPS speed and distance should be done at same time.

@TheFPSPower

10 ай бұрын

@@commandojay1915 It does if you get it calibrated, but since it's under-reading I'm guessing it wasn't calibrated.

Looks like its efficiency increases when driven slow toward the end of the trip. I wonder if they have implemented some big super cap for regen without thrashing the HV pack also as a tiered storage architecture. Very impressive range for an SUV! Nice out of spec testing!

Interesting that the EQS 450+ SUV has a better real world range than then normal EQS 450+

It should be nice for 110k.

600km per charge is awesome ;)

Thanks for video. This video changes my mind with this EQS SUV. I was worrying about its driving range before. I think the only downside now is the weak charging network. This makes me consider getting one once it joins NACS.

We have this exact trim with the 20”wheels. Driving on the highway in Southern Arizona, traveling from Phoenix to San Diego, we manage 2.9 miles/kWh, which would give us just over 300 miles of range. I couldn’t agree more, this car puts the range anxiety to rest. We drive at highway speed and with one quick 25 minute charge make it all the way to San Diego, which is a 365-mile trip for us.

@adgdashaef

4 ай бұрын

I have a Tesla so I use superchargers when I travel. Where do you charge your Mercedes? I read that superchargers will be open to Mercedes. Do you know when that will happen? I would like to get a EQS as well so I am researching.

@mehrdadmahmoudi3681

4 ай бұрын

@@adgdashaef one of the stops for us, usually on the way back, is a place called Dateland. It has an EA supercharger, which usually works well. In fact there is a 60+ stall Tesla supercharger in the same location. On the way out, we either charge in Yuma, or El Centro. Either EA charges are not very good in these location and I generally schedule at least an hour to get 30-40% charge. As for when the Tesla superchargers will open up to MB electric cars, I don’t have a good idea, but I am keeping my fingers crossed. BTW, if you drive an EQS at 70 miles per hour, you will get 350 miles out of the car.

@adgdashaef

4 ай бұрын

@@mehrdadmahmoudi3681 Thank you for the response, that sounds very promising! Can't ever get 300 miles out of my tesla.

I was in the white Passat on i25 when you were heading north. We drove past you and my wife says to me he isn’t that the guy you always watch on KZread? I then tried to give you a big thumbs up but you were zoned in and chatting to the camera. It was cool seeing you in the wild! Awesome video and crazy mileage out of that SUV!

Same energy efficiency as a model X. Impressive.

You’ve made me a subscriber. This was helpful and I look forward to more of your range tests.

Would love to see this battery pack in the EQE SUV.

@Wised1000

10 ай бұрын

It doesn't fit!😊

Only thing to consider is battery chemistry and rechargeability over time. But def impressive!

Great video. Always nervous watching at the end that you will run out. Have you ever done a range test Ev vs Ice?

Great video Kyle. Binge watched this video and your Dad's today (EQS SUV). At the Wellington ChargePoint, what was the charge curve like after you concluded the range test video? I was holding out for the Lucid Gravity; however, I am really interested in the EQS SUV after watching both videos!!

Wowza! Talk about range anxiety...when will this thing run out?! Great video.

Great range. Kyle said something about the motor brushes had to be serviced @ 37:15? How often is that? How expensive?

Great Machine! Being a Tesla owner I miss my Mercedes fit and finish! Now they are back!

Awesome, I hope all Germany cars out perform EPA. When will you be testing the new Q8 E-Tron?

AWESOME VIDEO KYLE CAR IS AMAZING CANT WAIT FOR DUAL MOTOR OR EQS580 TEST !!!!! GREAT JOB LOVE THIS RIDE

I’m not a fan of Mercedes. But… good for them! Awesome video. Thanks Kyle for all your hard work.

Well done Merc! Drag coefficient 0.26.

Wow, that is pretty darn impressive. I really like this car. I love the styling and it’s really nice to know the range is incredible. You did a wonderful job on this test and my goodness you must like driving long distances. Lol.

Best SUV EV on the market. Wish I could afford one.

Thank you for this great review. I am considering the EQE SUV (with the 4MATIC). This gives some confidence considering the 4MATIC range l is rated at 253.

@Wasabi9111

10 ай бұрын

How was the eqe suv ride compared to the eqs suv? I don’t see airmatic suspension available w the eqe suv.

@CookandBakewithSamer

10 ай бұрын

@@Wasabi9111 the EQS has a smoother ride, definitely quieter (not that the EQE is noisy), the 4 matrix on the EQS SUV is worth the money I think. You get so much more other than the traction. You can get the air suspension on the EQE SUV as a $1,900 option.

@adamaufdencamp5080

10 ай бұрын

I have the EQE 350 4matic. It’s super quiet. The performance is better than your passengers will likely even enjoy. And the driver assistance is incredible. I regularly road trip from Chicago to SW Michigan. The drive is so easy to do with distronic and the automated lane changes. Highly recommend.

@CookandBakewithSamer

10 ай бұрын

Very good to know and thank you Adam. You definitely need the 4 MATIC in your part of the country. And SW Michigan with all the lake effect snow. I just noticed on my comment, it had 4 matrix”. That must have been the auto correct 😂 I think I’m going to order an EQE 350 4MATIC.

@Wasabi9111

10 ай бұрын

@@CookandBakewithSamer I looked thru our nearby inventory and none of the the eqe suv had the air suspension or the acoustic side windows.

Awesome! Cannot wait to see the EQE SUV, that one could even have better range!

@PhilT993

10 ай бұрын

I am very interested in the EQE SUV 500, but NOBODY has done proper 70mph range test on that yet, that I can find. Out of Spec has done one on the EQE SUV AMG and that only got 272 Miles, 100 miles less than this EQS SUV. Disappointing!

@berthogendoorn2133

10 ай бұрын

@@PhilT993 Hi Phil you got to take battery size in consideration the EQS has about 20% larger battery capacity, hence the cost is higher.

@PhilT993

10 ай бұрын

@@berthogendoorn2133 Yes the battery is definitely bigger in the EQS, but the EQS is also bigger than the EQE. I was hoping that the range would be closer than I have seen so far. we will have to wait and see when someone actually tests it. Here's hoping. I would be happier with 300 miles.

Love the tech, next level, can u imagine a smaller vehicle, maybe 450 miles? WOW, FUTURE LOOKS BRIGHT ❤

@TheSteinbitt

10 ай бұрын

What tech? It’s just low drag and huge battery.

can confirm with my eqe as well.

RWD definitely is the way to go

That's actually pretty amazing for the size and the speed...

This range test is on point. Took a road trip a week ago in sizzling Arizona summer with temperatures hovering above 117F from Phoenix to Las Vegas and boy oh boy this vehicle is a range monster. Started with 95% SOC driving between 70 to 80 mph reached destination with 11% SOC. Glad I traded in Model X for 2023 EQS SUV 450+. Model X needed to be supercharged twice to make the same trip one way. As the public fast charging gets more reliable German vehicles will become more competitive to Tesla.

@wizzyno1566

10 ай бұрын

So twice as good as a Model X? I call bullshit on that.

I suddenly and very interested in the Merc. Hmm. Wonder what they lease for.

I believe it. My wife’s EQS 450 gets amazing range.

That Red Twizy though ❤ (fyi, it's being discontinued soon... had one, it was a love&hate relationship, but always fun)

EQS Battery Nominal Capacity * 120.0 kWh Battery Type Lithium-ion Number of Cells 432 Architecture 400 V Useable Capacity 108.4 kWh Cathode Material NCM811 Pack Configuration 108s4p Nominal Voltage 396 V Model S Plaid Battery Nominal Capacity * 100.0 kWh Battery Type Lithium-ion Number of Cells 7920 Architecture 400 V Useable Capacity* 95.0 kW

Only for the hyper rich. Great video.

600kms on one charge at that speed. Amazing!!

I know its costly but will have to chose between this and mdx

Drat. One of these things costs more than I paid for my house.

What kills me about all the “anti EV people” saying they wouldn’t buy an electric car because “you have to stop and charge it all the time”. You drove for six (6) hours.!! I WANT to stop, and get out and stretch my legs a little. This is so awesome knowing that you can put the miles ON, same as an internal combustion engine / ICE car.

Hard to see that display with all the finger prints all over it!

@Wised1000

10 ай бұрын

I think has a greasy finger issue😂. He's going to have to lay off the snacks! My screen has never been even close to that bad.😂

Lemme know when they add the knobs and switches back for all the basic controls, HVAC, audio, etc.

@adamaufdencamp5080

10 ай бұрын

One dial would be nice. The capacitive touch controls on the steering wheel aren’t that great. It would be nice to have a dial for changing radio stations and intuitively adjusting volume. Buttons and dials are underrated.

Hmmm, when have I ever driven 400 miles without a break? Um, never.

Nice video as usual, would you please post the link for your phone holder?

True Luxury, mercedes is the best. Now they have great range to go with the comfort and very useful tech like head up display, 360 camera to which are my favourites

If I was ever willing to spend this much on a car, I'd have this car on my short list.

@justinfowler2857

10 ай бұрын

Apparently I'm poor. I'm make decent money, but just the thought of spending 100k+ on a car makes my head explode. 🤯

@thomasbihn

10 ай бұрын

@@justinfowler2857 that would eclipse my house payment lol

@derradune6722

10 ай бұрын

@@justinfowler2857if you think $100k is too much, here in Australia it sells for $250k. I don’t think I’ll be seeing many on the road.

@justinfowler2857

10 ай бұрын

@@thomasbihn That car cost double what my first house costs.

@justinfowler2857

10 ай бұрын

@@derradune6722 Yeah but at least you live in Australia. I visited 20 years ago and still have fond memories of the nice people I met there. G'day Mate. 😉

The plus just indicates the highest range model. All the EQS have the large 107.8kWh usable Battery

BTW I visited BMW Welt in Munich today. The BMW M50 IX looked good. The electric 7 series is even more horrible in person than on screen, a true eyesore. It is also enormous, it makes the EQS seem "compact". It would be no surprise that the upcoming Rolls electric, will simply be a rebadged, utterly costumizable version of it.

36:00 Kum-in-Low to the Kum&Go 👏🏼

If available could you test the Fisker Ocean pls.

Model X range killa! Hopefully the lucid gravity will appear sometime 😂

Only one improvement when Mercedes comes out with the NACS plug, put it on the drivers side rear and presto, no cable issues with current supercharger version 2 & 3's, just back in, plug and charge!

have u tested refresh model x long range?

Kyle, tell the car industry. Put a lable near each cars charger port that reminds the ev owner there maximum charging rate. So they don't waste the 350kw when the 100kw charge station would be plenty.. to charge a Bolt EV's 55kw battery. Say don't be a charger hog..... Like the old leaded or unleaded lable on the gas car.... fill cap area.

@Wasabi9111

10 ай бұрын

Probably better to have all the chargers at 350. You can’t control all user situation, eg the 350 was the only one available when the bolt pulls up.

Really good range it could have made 400mi at a little lower speed

Look how filthy that steering wheel is on the right side. That's the beauty of white interiors! :)

I was thinning about getting the 580, but reconsidering getting a 450 at this point! The range is awesome. I'm basically around town driving, little to no road trips.

@Wised1000

10 ай бұрын

IMO, the 450 AWD is the "goldilocks" model. A lot more torque, a little faster, and probably, a very small range penalty. Plus, all season traction and even very good offroad capability to boot! Finally, a much smaller price differential. However, if you are going to option a lot, the 580 might make more sense in the end. However, I have to disagree on the hyperscreen, I like it much better than the tablet screen. It might be functionally unnecessary, but it looks a lot better and is super slick to operate. In a sense, the dash looks cheapened without it. Even my wife, who is a ludite, now likes the fact that she can co-pilot with it after initially raging about it!

@joetacchino4470

10 ай бұрын

If you're doing around town driving and few to no road trips, can you charge at home? If so, either of those choices will be enough range for you; buy what you want.

@GaryAJackson1420

10 ай бұрын

That thing is a spaceship!

@adamaufdencamp5080

10 ай бұрын

Also, if you considered the 580 because of performance, get the 450 4matic and buy the acceleration increase. EQS 450 4MATIC SUV From 355 hp to 435 hp (+80 hp) From 5.8 s to 4.9 s (-0.9 s) Monthly: $90/month Yearly: $900/year Lifetime of Vehicle: $2,950

@febrianadji5758

10 ай бұрын

450 4matic way to go, imo

Wow! I had no idea how good that EV would be. That is just outstanding! With the right charging network this thing will be a range beast. I wonder how it would do with towing? Is it capable of towing?

When you next test an awd EQE/EQS, make sure you get a MY24 one because they get a disconnect unit for the front motor which will get the range for the awd ones much closer to the rwd ones

I prefer efficiency stated in miles per kWh versus watt hours per mile.

I wonder what the range would be in Arizona where I am. 115 degrees and 85 mph is the norm here. 70 mph vehicles are a hazard here

It’s ok. I’m more worried about maintenance than anything else. Our Mercedes a few years ago was terrible. Almost as bad as a Landrover, it was always in the shop for something.

Not to be pessimistic but could a slight tailwind have been a contributor?

doesn't the eqs 450+ have one big screen that covers the entire driver's and passenger's panel?

Please do range tests for Thanks so much Kyle. You and Bjorn are the best. Please do mention temperature, wind factor, speed, tire size, start charge in a matrix format: MY2022/23 EQS SUV 4MATIC 450 MY2023 EQE SUV 4MATIC 350 If possible cover: MY2022/23 EQS SUV 4MATIC 580 MY2023 EQE 500 4MATIC Most people buy AWD so please cover AWD for both EQS and EQE SUVs. Also, will it matter if trunk is full and 4 adults are in car ?

out of spec- Use a decibel meter on your iPhone to compare the EQS vs Model S

How is the braking on this vehicle ? Some complaints about having to press brakes hard to stop the vehicle .

¡Ay, caramba! 🤯

Wow!

Finally a car that can actually go 3 hours on a 10-80 charge at 80mph... Or at least very close. Now if it could just charge in 15 minutes from 10-80 and I wasn't so poor...

@Wised1000

10 ай бұрын

After 70 the range will suffer significantly. At 80 its probably close or below its EPA rating. Thats my expirence with the EQS. Maybe, that is the secret sauce for the Germans beating the EPA so consistently their EPA estimates use an 80mph (130 km) highway loop which also happens to be the top legal speed in most EU countries.🤔

So iX or EQS SUV? In terms of comfort and quietness?

Efficiency, comfort, durability and top notch user experience in a large SUV - wow. Oh yeah, a good $100K-ish, but you get where the money went to ....

I love my EQS.

wow i am impressed with the range even when its zero you made it ...

Who drives 70 mph in the U.S nowadays. I feel like 75 is the new 65 😅

If it's reporting lower speed due to bigger wheels, isn't it also reporting lower distance travelled?

I was blown away with EQS 580 range and rear wheel steering. When doing mostly city driving, highway speed no greater than 70, and minimal red light launches, my maximum range to date is 459 mi. If I put in some effort and use ECO mode, maybe I could exceed 475 mi. Beauty is in eye of beholder, and I don’t think eggs shape is ugly, but good for drag coefficient. Could turning radius of this very long EV beat a model 3? For fun, think I’ll challenge one.

Practical? Can you recharge in canada?

15:40 that translated to 177 wH/km 👀👀👀

Awesome