Welcome back, Jordan!

@Levonuz

7 ай бұрын

Finally!!!

Great to see Jordan back on the channel!

Great to see you back, Jordan, and you handled this episode with aplomb!

Omg!! Welcome back Jordan! We all miss you!!

the jordan/kyle banter at the beginning of the video sent me. good to have you back, jordan.

Great video! EQE SUV is truly magically efficient. Also as a side note, Kyle and Jordan (And Alyssa) genuinely seemed to be having a lot of fun out there testing. Welcome back Jordan!

Welcome back Jordan, it's good to see you back on the channel.

I’ve missed you Jordan, great to see you back on the channel!

Great video, really enjoyed this one Jordan. I think I might personally choose the AMG over a highly optioned 500. Both seem like good cars!

Welcome back Jordan! Great test. I can't explain why, but having the entire dash covered in Mercedes logos is really off-putting to me.

I like the Mercedes look (especially inside) over the Tesla Y.

@tonymai1844

7 ай бұрын

Even tesla S still looks cheap , over rated.

@GeorgeOrwell-tp8dw

7 ай бұрын

Ok…. You can buy 2 model Y’s and still save money over the EQE… it better be nicer

Glad you did the test on the EQE SUV and comparing with the Q8 eTron. Thank you.

Kyle: "Personally, I would get the e-tron" Jordan: "You HAVE an e-tron, Kyle!" Funniest moment lol

Pleased to see Joran back. My EQS 580 is driven on flat roads near OOS Dave in Florida and we consistently get 400 mi range in comfort mode with max regen. Recently, while most driving was under 70 mph, 90% SoC reported 413 mi which extrapolates to 459 mi maximum range. I doubt our 2022 model S in Massachusetts can beat the EQS for range. Highly disappointed with mS lack of luxury, we bought the EQS 580. We love it’s rear wheel steering, Hyperscreen, massage seats, ambient lighting, fragrance dispenser, front/rear pillows, and automatic lane changing when road tripping. Can’t wait for Mercedes compatibility at Superchargers.

goddamn that dash is so much nicer than the hyperscreen, just night and day, this looks nice and refined, the hyperscreen looks chintzy

@johnpoldo8817

7 ай бұрын

Wow, I feel exactly opposite. This screen looks like stuck on tablets vs the Hyperscreen looks integrated to dashboard. The Hyperscreen also gives my passenger easy to use controls so they feel part of the driving experience.

Hell yeah! Great presentation and info. I hope this marks the return of Jordan to Out of Spec. The Kyle/Jordan camaraderie and banter alone is worthy of subscribing to the channel.

Jordan is back!!!

So surprised to see you back Jordan!

Hope you are back with OOS. Great review...

Yeah! Jordon is back.

Efficiency in EVs comes from reducing the effective series resistance (ESR) in every power component as much as possible. This is vital. It also makes it much easier to keep it cool in hot weather, and under high load. If your battery has too much ESR, then redesign it to reduce it. Remember you are using very high volumes, so the cost is near materials cost. Same for the motor. Same for the motor controller. Even the wires between components have an effect. Don't skimp on them and make them small. That increases resistance and energy loss.. Redesign the layout of components to allow the shortest wire runs possible. That reduces their ESR. It sounds like Mercedes understands this, and Audi doesn't. I know I told Musk it was vital to lower the ESR as much as possible.

Welcome back Jordan!! M-I-z!!! Is this an official coming back or just hanging out?

I tested the Q8 e-tron and was not impressed. To me it just felt like a generation behind in design and the interface. Shame I was a big Audi fan in the old days. I ended up buying the EQE. It has been a decade since I owned a Mercedes, but something about this car just felt right. I do think it is spec dependent and is probably purchased by folks that want their car to announce their position but not make too much of a statement. I didn’t bother with any of the “sport” stuff. I think what EV’s do best is serenity and shove, and that’s a what Mercedes does well. This is the perfect daily driver to pair with a Lotus Emira. Best of both worlds.

Great to have you back! Careful in the corners and stay away from curbs.

IT is Interesting to see all the different EV Offerings of All of these Manufacturers.. Not sure why Capacitors are not Used 'In Circuit' in effort of Reducing Battery Temperature and Efficiency?

The car that looks slippery actually is!

Long time no see bro. I was wondering if you were still around but I didn’t want to ask 😆.

Did it have a heads up?

".....you are excused"😆

It's interesting that you mentioned something about Tesla when it comes to EPA rating. I've always thought EPA rating is a test done by EPA itself and not by manufacturer. Can you tell us more about how EPA ratings work?

The Q8 e-tron is the better car, but the EQE is probably the better EV. The BMW iX is also worthy of contention if you're shopping in this category. Also interesting point - all 3 German big EVs use different motor tech. The Q8 e-tron uses induction asynchronous type motors, the EQE uses permanent magnet synchronous motors while the iX uses wound rotor synchronous motors (with brushes). Love to see how in this early days nobody has figured out the best design yet so they're experimenting with different designs.

JORDAN, yay!

Overall the charging curve on the Q8 is better. I think the Q8 would arrive at a destination sooner than the EQE assuming a long road trip.

@USUG0

7 ай бұрын

not according to teslabjorn in his 1000km challenge. The EQE did it in 10h05m vs 10h20m for both etron versions

@davidmenasco5743

7 ай бұрын

​@@USUG0Thanks for that info. I was just about to go hunting for all those videos. The 1,000km challenge is the benchmark for EV road tripping. A US version will be needed for all these pickup trucks.

@BillB33525

7 ай бұрын

@@USUG0 15 minutes difference is only 2.5% difference in a 10 hour drive. Bjorn does a great job, considering all the variations that can stack up in a 10 hour drive stopping at chargers, could there be more than a 2% differece between the two trips?

@USUG0

7 ай бұрын

@@BillB33525 I am pretty sure 15min is probably within error margin. Just pointing out, evidence indicates it is possibly the other way around your prediction.

Permanent magnet motors are always more efficient than induction.

Pause at 4:53 and think of the " would ya look at that, just look at it" guy. Your welcome! 😂

Looks like that couples counseling paid off.

My EQS 580 regularly shows 430 miles estimate at a 90% charge which translates to 480 at 100%

@johnpoldo8817

7 ай бұрын

Wow, you’ve got me beat! Best I’ve seen is 459 mi range. I wonder if you mostly drive in Eco mode while we’re in Comfort. When wifey drives ours, there’s a jackrabbit start at every traffic light. My stomach is thrown into the rear seats.

@eurouc

7 ай бұрын

@@johnpoldo8817 I drive in regular comfort mode 100%. Most of my driving is urban, rarely over 50mph. When I check the additional range available by switching to eco it only predicts an additional 5-10 miles

I'm probably in the minority, but I like them the more I see them.

it's all about aerodynamics

Thumbnail: I once ate a pizza THIS BIG!

did not saw EQE offroad but Etron Offroad is amazingly effective there's a vid on this

@adamaufdencamp5080

7 ай бұрын

I own an EQE SUV. I can assure you that off-road performance was and is completely irrelevant to my decision process. For off road, get a Polaris Expedition/Razor/General.

ive only been in a electric car once, with the amount of them on the road today, i expect oneday i will go in one again

seeing the thumbnail and reading the headline, i felt like the sultan in Aladdin being brainwashed by jafar... [shakes head] "but it's so ugly!"

May be Audi heat pump, fan and pump are using more electricity than the Mercedes Benz. If not, it has to be the efficiency of the wheels electric motor who are not as efficient. This where Tesla has a clear advantage over the competition (heat pump, fan, pump, wheels electric motor).

@kraenk12

7 ай бұрын

CW is all you need to know

Thumbnail where someone has their arm stretched as far as possible? Must be clickbait 😂😊

JORDAN!!!!

Are EVs only about range? No one comments on how the car drives or feel. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I like that EQE just a bit too much expensive for me.

@fegik5922

7 ай бұрын

idk how people love the eqe! especially since the eq products look like an eye searing fish tank with a huge dinner plate sized mb logo

@Carfan678

7 ай бұрын

@@fegik5922 I felt that way at first but after seeing them in person I actually do like them. EQS sedan looks like a space ship on the road and I love it

👍🌟‍‍👍‍‍

I expected Audi to employ the 30 % more efficient q6 drivetrain, but they were a bit lazy. 😇

What happened man did they defrost you like Stallone?

If VW can't turn things around, I don't see how they will compete if they have to put 20% more batteries vs all their competitors. VW used to have the charging performance but sounds like thats no longer there with the low cobalt pack.

@bullshitbingo2259

7 ай бұрын

They are already turning it around. The VW ID.7 is pretty well build, maybe a bit boring with the styling, but good enough. It is pretty efficient even tho it is still based on the old MEB platform. The ID.7 introduces a new efficient drivetrain, which will be used in other VW brands and models, too. The ID.7 with the upcoming bigger 86kWh net capacity battery is projected to have 665km/413miles of range, that is a good 4.8 miles per kWh.

@kraenk12

7 ай бұрын

Sounds like a comment from 2 years ago.

@protagonist9716

7 ай бұрын

​@@bullshitbingo2259 Still losing sales in China so still way to go for VW to get it's act together

Nice 😂😂😂

you are excused... lol

The EQE almost has the efficiency of a Model Y, and it's a much heavier car. How'd they do that?

@shahx1019

7 ай бұрын

Battery Algorithms, more efficient motors?

@777Outrigger

7 ай бұрын

@@shahx1019 Perhaps. I can't think of anyone that has better efficiency than Tesla, except Mercedes. Good job.

@Carfan678

7 ай бұрын

@@777Outrigger fun fact Mercedes pulled Tesla out of bankruptcy in 2008 before they made a mark. Notice really early versions of the X and S have Mercedes switch gear, window controls, gear selector, windshield wiper stalk

@kraenk12

7 ай бұрын

Much slippier. Teslas also never achieve their claimed numbers.

@777Outrigger

7 ай бұрын

@@kraenk12 You mean the EPA numbers. I can tell that I get 260 Wh/mile on a road trip on my Model Y, which gives me 290 miles of range with only a 75 kWh battery pack, and that will beat almost anything out there in efficiency.

I like my i3 Rex, 5.7 on average, very efficient

Personally not a fan of the styling, surprised its as efficient as it is, 280Wh/mi seems really good compared to my SR model 3 which gets like 220, but weighs like 1700lbs less

@kraenk12

7 ай бұрын

It looks really good in the metal. Pictures make it look a bit weird.

Less efficient than a Bolt EUV.

the E in AUDI stands for efficiency

@Glock7eventeen

7 ай бұрын

At least the Audi looks great, this looks like an egg 🥚

But you'd have to use CCS charging for a road trip. I'd wait til more Tesla Superchargers were available to Mercedes.

1000+ km range is a MUST.

Great range from the USA-built Mercedes, but I couldn't live with that interior and its mess of screens and shiny black plastic.

@kraenk12

7 ай бұрын

Interior is best in class and shiny plastics is a choice.

3.3 miles/kw doesn’t seem effective compared to other ev’s on the market.

Peuple will make up any excuse to not have a sedan. Its very weird.

I don't like Mercedes EV's egg shape.

idc about efficiency! especially since the eq products look like an eye searing fish tank with a huge dinner plate sized mb logo

@kraenk12

7 ай бұрын

The SUVs look great in the metal. Certainly better than any Tesla.

Technically Impressive for a Legacy……….but such an ugly Blob……greetings from SoCal…….home?!?!🤪 Of Fisker……bathing in the glow of thousands of Tesla……..30+ and growing in our small neighborhood😎

@kraenk12

7 ай бұрын

Have you never seen one yet?

It’s because of that god awful “design”

Ew, Mercedes stars all over the dash looks so bad. Looks like a tacky knockoff purse that you get off Times Square from a gentleman named Larry.

eqe looks like a nice car but that interior for me is one of the worst ive seen

OK lets see if I get this straight, the car has 90kW of usable battery and you managed 304 miles, and you call that FUEL EFFICIENT??? What planet do you live on?

With crappy EA chargers, poor efficiency, the shutting down of EV production lines, it’s almost like VW is trying to slow down the EV adoption.

Great test, but the title is misleading. "so efficient" and doing 3.5 mi/kWh @ 70 mph, while the Bolt EUV is doing 3.6 mi/kWh and the Bolt EV is doing 3.8 mi/kWh is a little misleading. I am not even mentioning the Tesla with 4.2 mi/kWh on 70 mph. And if I am not mistaken, the Tesla Model 3 did 305 miles @ 70 mph with a 75 kWh battery. While the EQE did 304 miles on 90+ kWh battery. Not sure why EPA is a thing for you guys ? Many manufacturers are posting lower EPA in purpose. "See, they overdeliver". But in real world, Tesla is the one who beats them all. I wonder when we will see a 70 mph range test on a Ioniq 6 AWD ?

@colbyconner3206

7 ай бұрын

They key is it’s efficient for it’s size. Sure a bolt/model 3 are more efficient but are also much smaller.

@bullshitbingo2259

7 ай бұрын

People have to understand that german manufacturers were barely even trying so far. They still sell a large percentage of ICE cars and only shifted focus over to EVs in the last 4 years or so. The new and already available ID.7 introduces a new efficient drivetrain, which will be used in other VW brands and models, too. The ID.7 is still based on the old MEB platform but that seems to be good enough to beat most of the competition. The ID.7 with the upcoming bigger 86kWh net capacity battery has a projected reach of 665km/413miles per charge, that would be a good 4.8 miles per kWh. Mercedes will reveal the CLA end of next year and starts delivery in the beginning of 2025. The CLA will be the first car on the MMA platform, which is an EV-first but still a mix used platform which can hold combustion engines, and is projected to achieve at least 740km/460 miles of range with a 90kWh battery. That would be an impressive 5.1miles per kW. Those are real world estimates, numbers could vary tho. Nevertheless, Tesla and Tesla fanboys should be aware that Tesla will come under pressure and needs to innovate fast. Tesla is losing ground on important technological fields like HUD, Lidar, Autonomous Driving, 800V, Vehicle-to-load/grid, newest level of matrix led (the one which can actively communicate with the environment) and various comfort features like adaptive suspension etc. To be frank, especially the higher priced Tesla models X/S are increasingly weak offerings. The huge price cuts were an answer to the decreasing value for money. Tesla is popular for their base Model 3 and Ys, even more so after the upcoming facelifts, since the gap between the trim levels of each model but also the gap between the smaller and bigger models have become negligible for an average customer in a lot of cases. They have enough range and enough speed in the base Model 3/Y for their everyday use case. Acceleration and FSD (which does not even work properly) is kinda their only argument to get customers to buy the higher trim levels, while space is the sole argument to go for the bigger car.

@kraenk12

7 ай бұрын

So you’re going to compare luxury class SUVs to a sub compact now?

I hate most manufacturers now a days. That is not a suv. Neither is the Audi. They are lifted wagons with extra body work. The eqe is also pretty much a van. So annoying how manufacturers call anything an SUV and people go nuts over it. If only the consumer was smarter.

@kraenk12

7 ай бұрын

SUVs are cancer especially for efficiency.

@johnpoldo8817

7 ай бұрын

Agree 100%, shouldn’t we call it a Crossover? I’m so sick of crossovers and prefer sedans such as Tesla mS, Taycan, and EQE/EQS sedans.

@ytxstream

7 ай бұрын

What you are describing is pretty much the definition off an SUV from a German point of view. For example a G class or a Defender is not an SUV but a GLE or Cayenne is.

Shame it looks ugly af. Even if it had 1000 range I still wouldn’t buy it lol.

Who the F is Jordan? He is not why I tune in.

@officialyasir

7 ай бұрын

You must be new here, lol!

@Irishgamer01

7 ай бұрын

Not that new@@officialyasir

@pasad335

7 ай бұрын

I tune in when I'm trying to go to sleep. Usually works.

@Carfan678

7 ай бұрын

so don't watch it no need to be a hater

@johnpoldo8817

7 ай бұрын

The two best EV channels are OOS Kyle for nerds like me and OOS Dave for enthusiasts over 59 - me again.

Jordan is back!!!