"YOU SHOULD'NT WANT TO BRING SOCIETY DOWN!" Simon Jordan SLAMS Jim White for bashing England fans

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Simon Jordan SLAMS Jim White for bashing England fans
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  • @MHarvs100
    @MHarvs1002 жыл бұрын

    Jim asking with a straight face why newspapers have the headlines they do.. The media absolutely love what’s happened, they have lapped it up and can’t wait for seconds.

  • @adieeddie4786
    @adieeddie47862 жыл бұрын

    Jim always here to defend media hysteria. Thank goodness Simon is a balancing act

  • @cheddarbob1998

    @cheddarbob1998

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jim White is all about the headlines. If England won on Sunday, would the media even make this a big deal? I highly doubt it.

  • @terrytaylor1394
    @terrytaylor13942 жыл бұрын

    Simon has real world common sense. Not much use in media these days.

  • @jamesfoley4832
    @jamesfoley48322 жыл бұрын

    For a sports journalist. Jim White has no understanding of any aspect of it. Thank the Lord for Simon Jordan.

  • @amberpuga7322
    @amberpuga73222 жыл бұрын

    Playing the match at 8 pm at night when supporters spent the whole day drinking. This match should have been played at noon, which might have saved some of this heartache.

  • @Tommy.Walker
    @Tommy.Walker2 жыл бұрын

    Jordan talks so much sense.

  • @Mike-cd4qg
    @Mike-cd4qg2 жыл бұрын

    The idea that England shouldn't get the world cup because of this is baseless given Qatar's winning bid.

  • @gomperhooblet

    @gomperhooblet

    2 жыл бұрын

    Qatar: Pays the bills England: Fans break in without paying for tickets Guess who the prefer

  • @C2190

    @C2190

    2 жыл бұрын

    i prefer Qatar atleast they won’t behave like the hooligan fans like the english are and if they did they’d get beat or even be put in jail.

  • @mackenzie8486

    @mackenzie8486

    2 жыл бұрын

    @UCWb3CiURDb8dMeFfYz7rkKA that’s there culture

  • @danielquinn3659

    @danielquinn3659

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@C2190 I think he was going on about how corrupt the winning bill was, the human rights record in the country, the working conditions and safety record of the foreign labour that are massively under paid.

  • @gomperhooblet

    @gomperhooblet

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@C2190 yes the corpses will be swept under the carpet so you won't have to see them :)

  • @jm2aa217
    @jm2aa2172 жыл бұрын

    Simon Jordan bang on the money as usual 🙏🏻

  • @daireoreilly2548

    @daireoreilly2548

    2 жыл бұрын

    He’s acc definitely not on the money. It’s easy to say that it’s a few bad eggs. It was a few bad eggs this year, a few bad eggs in Russia, and in France etc. If the Russian hooligans do anything it’s indicative of their country and their culture. If the Hungarian fans shout homophobic chants their country is homophobic and disgusting, but when it’s English fans it’s a few bad eggs. You can only have so many bad eggs. Literally no other country in world football have excused should horrendous scenes minority or not.

  • @1purpose482

    @1purpose482

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol denial

  • @kentt5956

    @kentt5956

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well done Simon 👍

  • @jm2aa217

    @jm2aa217

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@daireoreilly2548 mate some people are c*nts. Such is life. Tarring the majority when it’s a minority is ridiculous

  • @ryanoneill7543
    @ryanoneill75432 жыл бұрын

    Ha! Simon is on a different level to Jim! Jims the type of person that won't question anything! What a sad act!!

  • @malcolmjones6010

    @malcolmjones6010

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jim is an absolute clown ! He's just there to stir the pot. Quite pathetic really. Again not prepared to listen. Why don't they replace him with say...a loaf of bread ?

  • @MG-hi9sh

    @MG-hi9sh

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@malcolmjones6010 He seems like a media puppet to me, talkSPORT must put him up to this. He surely can't believe half of what he's saying, right? He just tries and fails to make the show interesting by taking the opposite side it seems, it probably somehow gets more views and thus higher wages for him. It's sad really.

  • @burkley9121
    @burkley91212 жыл бұрын

    Jim white saying he'll be balanced🤣

  • @ktom5262

    @ktom5262

    2 жыл бұрын

    Simon is way out of whack here, not Jim. There were awful hooligans in English football decades ago, who caused the Brussels tragedy in 1985, and there are such hooligans now. Little has changed. Let's not forget that London is a now city where you get get knifed to death in a street in the middle of the day.

  • @joba4848

    @joba4848

    2 жыл бұрын

    @k Tom True, you are at risk of getting knifed in London on a daily basis. However, the media tries their best to brush this under the carpet, because those doing the vast proportion of the stabbing, aren’t the white English supporters who behaved so awfully on Sunday. Knife violence is the biggest issue regarding crime in London, and Khan has yet to do anything about it.

  • @burkley9121

    @burkley9121

    2 жыл бұрын

    The point is there is no balance in what Jim is saying. At all. They are a loud aggressive minority of the fan base and the country, Grouping the majority in with the minority of thugs does no one any good. They need to be a separate entity in and of themselves.

  • @willcroot5528

    @willcroot5528

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ktom5262 Qatar is literally hosting the next world cup. Look at some of their laws and rights

  • @ktom5262

    @ktom5262

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@willcroot5528 Qatar choice was an abomination by corrupt FIFA officials, who no doubt received very handsome bribes for that.

  • @dontworry1031
    @dontworry10312 жыл бұрын

    Jim is actually becoming unbearable lol

  • @MG-hi9sh

    @MG-hi9sh

    2 жыл бұрын

    Becoming? He was always unbearable, it's his natural character.

  • @senzokai3156

    @senzokai3156

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jim White talks like a condescending tool, with no logical points to back any stance he has besides blind conformity, when any point that doesn't suit his stance is made.

  • @imagiro1234
    @imagiro12342 жыл бұрын

    Simon Jordan has changed his tune when it was United fans. Hypocrite

  • @eldonpaul8761

    @eldonpaul8761

    2 жыл бұрын

    Facts!

  • @paulhatton9564

    @paulhatton9564

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@eldonpaul8761 :D

  • @Scepticool1

    @Scepticool1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank u!!

  • @CalSaurous
    @CalSaurous2 жыл бұрын

    I don't like England because of pundits like Lineker and Neville, but how can you not give them the World Cup but give it to Qatar? It's not about morals or behaviour, it's about money and nothing more.

  • @dendenn7383

    @dendenn7383

    2 жыл бұрын

    What have Neville and Lineker done that is so bad that you hate England just because of them?

  • @CalSaurous

    @CalSaurous

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dendenn7383 not hate England, just don't like the national team. Gary Neville's a big nosed idiot trying to play politician, and Lineker's the same but with big ears. Every year they sprout the most bs about how England have the best team, and then they judge foreign players for diving when Kane and Sterling did it more than anyone. The English media and its pundits - commentators such as Jenas - are just awful.

  • @sharingiscaring1952

    @sharingiscaring1952

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CalSaurous So you hate them for having big ears and big noses. And the fact they love their country and unconditionally support them? I honestly think Britain or the UK shouldn't share broadcasting. All it does is breed hatred, especially when people watch England.

  • @ronmastrio2798

    @ronmastrio2798

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sharingiscaring1952 Not really I'm English and I hate those two as well Lineker is a virtue signalling tosspot and Gary Neville is a massive hypocrite he talks about fit and proper owners all the time and he's business partners with Peter Lim the guy currently asset stripping and running Valencia into the ground.

  • @Ben-xe7hm
    @Ben-xe7hm2 жыл бұрын

    Jim again sucking up to the media- I was there for a few games and it was brilliant! No dramas whatsoever

  • @yiannistsioukanis1307
    @yiannistsioukanis13072 жыл бұрын

    Here we see the difference between a journalist and a businessman...Jim White you continue to throw more & more3 shame onto the profession of journalism...its all about sensationalism to the media people...they have lost all concept of reality...SJ talks total sense & if we just did what he's pointing out we would be always better off

  • @davidsummer8631
    @davidsummer86312 жыл бұрын

    Taking a moral view about how you get awarded the World Cup is ridiculous, because being awarded the World Cup comes down to one factor..Money

  • @greatestanalyser2354

    @greatestanalyser2354

    2 жыл бұрын

    Facts

  • @rohitbhatachaarya7080

    @rohitbhatachaarya7080

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is presently the harsh reality, but that shouldn’t be the case, right? As football fans, shouldn’t we use our voices to bring these issues to the forefront, so that the decision makers award hosting rights on metrics more substantial than just money? Lest we have already accepted that our sport is corrupt and unfixable.

  • @davidsummer8631

    @davidsummer8631

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rohitbhatachaarya7080 Problem is the biggest game of earth is played by many poor countries so the reality is the list of countries who could afford and would want to host the World Cup is much shorter than those who could not afforded or would not want to host it

  • @PlatefulVerse

    @PlatefulVerse

    10 ай бұрын

    @davidsummer8631 rubbish England fans will always stay sore losers when it comes to missing out on hosting a World Cup. Use your brain why do you think they pulled out of the bid for the 2030 World Cup after all, and went for the 2028 Euros instead because we are scared of competition

  • @Tonythomas19
    @Tonythomas192 жыл бұрын

    Simon is bang on again

  • @chrismulhern82

    @chrismulhern82

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bang on wrong again

  • @MattLloydShredder
    @MattLloydShredder2 жыл бұрын

    Spot on Simon Jordan, as always.

  • @carlsmith3818
    @carlsmith38182 жыл бұрын

    Simon puts across a very fair point, explaining his opinions well. Jim white can’t do that, he seems to have massive media bias. It’s all about headlines, hits, likes and shares for the media which Jim either doesn’t see or refuses to. Think about this, if England had won, would the headline have been about the break in or about England winning the Euros? Where would the thugs have been then, probably around 8-10 pages into the paper with a small column. would anyone have cared, nope, and if they do are they in a position to do anything about it, nope. Leave this sensationalist stuff to the red tops and talk about sport on talk sport that’s what people are here for.

  • @joba4848

    @joba4848

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Carl Smith I agree. For days leading up to the semi-final and final, TalkSPORT was full of nationalistic nonsense. They played ‘Its Coming Home’ about a thousand times a day. They helped to create the nationalist passion that bubbled over on Sunday, and now they’re acting as if they are morally outraged by the thing they helped create. Listening to those idiots Darren Gough and Adrian Durham yesterday was awful.

  • @catman2484

    @catman2484

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very well said

  • @kjd9634
    @kjd96342 жыл бұрын

    100% agree with Simon.

  • @cheekynandos5056
    @cheekynandos50562 жыл бұрын

    Simon is excellent at pouring cold water on media hysteria. Small section of the fan base acted reprehensibly no doubt. But let’s not make out England has a monopoly on thuggish behaviour. Policing and stadium security were woefully underprepared.

  • @johnson2joy

    @johnson2joy

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree with Simon, but regrettably the policing and stadium security was under prepared because many of the people who invaded the stadium saw it as an action of a lifetime, they gambled that they might never ever experience an event like that again and if England had won....in their minds it would have been worth it! I am still upset because it was an opportunity!

  • @davidburke7777

    @davidburke7777

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mate England football supporters are notorious all over the world for causing trouble.

  • @davidburke7777

    @davidburke7777

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Meatloaf I'm 32 years old pal and in that time I've never seen a football tournament with England involved that didn't involve some sort of trouble. Never heard the same for any of the other home nations or English Rugby supporters.

  • @daireoreilly2548

    @daireoreilly2548

    2 жыл бұрын

    He’s acc definitely not. It’s easy to say that it’s a few bad eggs. It was a few bad eggs this year, a few bad eggs in Russia, and in France etc. If the Russian hooligans do anything it’s indicative of their country and their culture. If the Hungarian fans shout homophobic chants their country is homophobic and disgusting, but when it’s English fans it’s a few bad eggs. You can only have so many bad eggs. Literally no other country in world football have excused should horrendous scenes minority or not.

  • @robertpirsig5011

    @robertpirsig5011

    2 жыл бұрын

    Media hysteria? You do realise most of Europe wanted an Italian win because a large cohort of England's fans are so poorly motivated. Booing national anthems, smashing bottles and cans all over the place, shining lasers in players eyes.Sure bad behavior happens everywhere but to a far greater extent in England. You really need to go to an neutral away European game between two other countrys and see the difference. It's night and day. I like Jordan but so many are burying their heads in the sand about the issue.

  • @SS-lx7ps
    @SS-lx7ps2 жыл бұрын

    Well said Simon Jordan. Enough self hating, virtue signalling rubbish please. Yes there are moronic fans, how about we concentrate on the absolute overall majority that watched it without issue.

  • @BillyHayes79Music

    @BillyHayes79Music

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nothing wrong with being ashamed of your own people when they behave like that and make us look like savages. We expect other groups to weed out the c***s among them. We need to do this also. Vermin

  • @robertstitches9517

    @robertstitches9517

    2 жыл бұрын

    So.... ignore the skin head style fandom, let them get away with it sure! Brilliant plan

  • @SS-lx7ps

    @SS-lx7ps

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@robertstitches9517 Let them get away with what? If anyone commits a crime they should be punished by the relevant authorities. I don't really care to know about it though.

  • @El_terrible1985

    @El_terrible1985

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SS-lx7ps horrible horrible nation of knackers. Ruin everything in sight cause yous can handle your drink. That is why the world hates yous

  • @SS-lx7ps

    @SS-lx7ps

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@El_terrible1985 Tell that to the huge numbers across the world that would give an arm and a leg to live there.

  • @CraigCairney83
    @CraigCairney832 жыл бұрын

    Once again I’m in agreement with Simon. Spot on sir!!

  • @daireoreilly2548

    @daireoreilly2548

    2 жыл бұрын

    He’s acc definitely not spot on. It’s easy to say that it’s a few bad eggs. It was a few bad eggs this year, a few bad eggs in Russia, and in France etc. If the Russian hooligans do anything they’re a disgrace coming from a sick country. If the Hungarian fans shout homophobic chants their country is homophobic and disgusting, but when it’s English fans it’s a few bad eggs. You can only have so many bad eggs. Literally no other country in world football have excused should horrendous scenes minority or not.

  • @hive71recordinz89
    @hive71recordinz892 жыл бұрын

    Booing through the whole game was annoying too, we are a joke, and dont deserve and hope we dont get the WC here, it will be the most embarrassing WC of all time, people are disgusted and we are a let down, it's a game and this game unfortunately, attracts total idoits and nothing ever get done ramp it up cause his talking crap sorry

  • @derekverlander3511

    @derekverlander3511

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agree with you Hive this trend of booing the opposition is childish and not done by Football lovers. A good game is between two good teams. I would love to have been at Anfield to see Messi play but turned the television off due to all the booing.

  • @hive71recordinz89

    @hive71recordinz89

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@derekverlander3511 exactly, most want to enjoy the game, it's a final, its supposed to be a battle, yes, but skillfully played football not a booing contest,

  • @gomperhooblet

    @gomperhooblet

    2 жыл бұрын

    Football is a performance, a pantomime element has to be there Part of the fun for some. Booing national anthems can do one though

  • @hive71recordinz89

    @hive71recordinz89

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately football isn't a pantomime, these are also real haters, not all the booing is fun driven like a pantomime

  • @LL-cf5hv
    @LL-cf5hv2 жыл бұрын

    It’s not all England fans simon is correct but he loses credibility when he says it shouldn’t be highlighted of course it should

  • @MohammedShafiq-id5ov

    @MohammedShafiq-id5ov

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agree it's not all english fans but unless there is a coordinated effective response by all football authorities this will not change why cant there be affective security once troublemakers are identified they should be thrown out the stadium there and then even if that means the game is delayed they should be handed a fine with a notice to attend a hearing at court if these measures are not taken this minority of fans will always be a pain can you imagine having to pay and then sit on the steps on the stands because some yobs have taken your seat can you imagine the fear on children faces seeing the anti social behaviour it is a disgrace

  • @victorfernandes2111

    @victorfernandes2111

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well said I mean how can we fix something we don’t even admit it’s broken or was broken this stuff of living in denial being on the defensive won’t really work I am Portuguese and I truly love the UK and the british people amazing but honestly when Chelsea played city in Porto it was embarrassing All they did was fight and break stuff not all of the supporters off course but those that did so did a lot of damage.

  • @me4374
    @me43742 жыл бұрын

    Jim loves ramping it up against England fans He loves highlighting this and bringing our society down. He’s so biased and unbalanced

  • @daireoreilly2548

    @daireoreilly2548

    2 жыл бұрын

    He’s acc on the money here tho. It’s easy to say that it’s a few bad eggs. It was a few bad eggs this year, a few bad eggs in Russia, and in France etc. If the Russian hooligans do anything it’s indicative of their country and their culture. If the Hungarian fans shout homophobic chants their country is homophobic and disgusting, but when it’s English fans it’s a few bad eggs. You can only have so many bad eggs. Literally no other country in world football have excused should horrendous scenes minority or not.

  • @matherspad

    @matherspad

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hes left wing, snowflake.

  • @deaddogtony1677

    @deaddogtony1677

    2 жыл бұрын

    He is so biased it’s unbelievable, Simon made a valid point, how can you say we shouldn’t get the World Cup in 2030 when in a years time the World Cup will be held in a barbaric hell hole. All that needs to happen is security needs to be ramped up. The fact that he kept exaggerating about the GIANT METAL DOOR THE FANS SMASHED THROUGH just shows he’s trying to sensationalise it and push the agenda that these hooligans are the norm and it’s completely uncontrollable

  • @jayb2175

    @jayb2175

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@daireoreilly2548 this obsessed Irish copying and pasting his comment again my days you are obsessed with us 🤦‍♂️

  • @georgiedalton4790

    @georgiedalton4790

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@matherspad So far gone! Makes me sick London is full of em 🤧

  • @stevenolove
    @stevenolove2 жыл бұрын

    Long live Simon

  • @BigALBoomer
    @BigALBoomer2 жыл бұрын

    Ahhh yes "The Times" truly the paper of the British people

  • @killacure
    @killacure2 жыл бұрын

    Italian and German fans did worse at Arsenal in recent years, I was their to attest

  • @killacure

    @killacure

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cold_servo_pie yes they did Fc Koln and Napoli. I was there

  • @standarsh4275
    @standarsh42752 жыл бұрын

    Simon Jordon is spot on

  • @whitewand7052
    @whitewand70522 жыл бұрын

    Ah, Simon Jordan! Could listen to him all day, how fortunate his friends must be to be able to have an intellectual conversion with such an intelligent person!

  • @jerseypeter6644
    @jerseypeter66442 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant debates whichever side you're on. Could you imagine this on the BBC, Lineker v Shearer? These are conversations that need to be had and are being had nowhere else in the media.

  • @macca4610
    @macca46102 жыл бұрын

    Little heads up talksport don’t mention racism when you employ Trevor Sinclair who racially abused a police officer. Just to rub it in you ask his opinion on the matter and he actually offers his opinion 😂 can we get sterling condemning diving next or maybe Matt Hancock on adultery

  • @TheMartinTD

    @TheMartinTD

    2 жыл бұрын

    Talkshit

  • @DSN262

    @DSN262

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sincllair is racist

  • @robertmason6366

    @robertmason6366

    2 жыл бұрын

    Indeed or troy Deeney on black premiership players on minimum wage!

  • @kpwand
    @kpwand2 жыл бұрын

    Simon is living in denial. The point is not that hooligans exist and that they embarrass the majority. The point is that the stadium security was not able to secure the location and that lives were in danger. That is a major issue in awarding a bid to a host country.

  • @deaddogtony1677

    @deaddogtony1677

    2 жыл бұрын

    He literally said the security team didn’t do their job so clean your ears out

  • @jayb2175

    @jayb2175

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's literally what he said LOL.

  • @kpwand

    @kpwand

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jayb2175 No, he didn't explicitly connect the security failure with the loss of the world cup. Losing the bid is a very real proposition.

  • @deaddogtony1677

    @deaddogtony1677

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kpwand because he’s not a precious little snowflake like you, he’s logical. He fully admits it was a big fail by the security team, but he doesn’t agree with the agenda that we should therefor not be able to host the World Cup, especially considering the next World Cup is being held in some backwards hell hole, it’s hardly a giant hurdle nobody can overcome, just get better or more security, problem solved

  • @jayb2175

    @jayb2175

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kpwand bro Qatar cut peoples hands off and hate homosexuality, but you think one game not having proper security will screw up our world Cup bid? 😂🤦‍♂️

  • @C2190
    @C21902 жыл бұрын

    keep calling them a minority simon it’s not like any of this has been happening for decades the british have and will always be like this.

  • @qahirmakhani348

    @qahirmakhani348

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup. Just like brexit is about economic anxiety and the fact you have an openly racist pm doesn't mean the country is racist or xenophobic, allegedly

  • @lucasmoreno5330
    @lucasmoreno53302 жыл бұрын

    Simon is talking absolute tosh. I lived in the UK and went to football games my entire life. I know live in Spain. The level of violence and threat of hooligans in nothing like that of the UK. Football is a family event in Spain.

  • @ianjones2731

    @ianjones2731

    2 жыл бұрын

    And your tiny anecdotal evidence is irrelevant

  • @Ajs_1988

    @Ajs_1988

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've never seen footage of real Madrid fans trying to smash their own players cars up after they have lost a game. Nope .. never

  • @andy5Utd
    @andy5Utd2 жыл бұрын

    100% with Jordan.

  • @Millesimal_Ed
    @Millesimal_Ed2 жыл бұрын

    I never thought I'd agree with Simon Jordan, yet here I am.

  • @MrJaza24
    @MrJaza242 жыл бұрын

    Well done Simon 👏

  • @AM.10
    @AM.102 жыл бұрын

    England should not be rewarded for bad behaviour .

  • @LeeTAZ-sl7de

    @LeeTAZ-sl7de

    2 жыл бұрын

    You cant judge a whole nation on a minute amount of people. When United played Roma around 10 years ago United fans were attacked, a few were hospitalised, these fans wernt hooligans they were there to enjoy a match. A few years later Roma were given the CL final. These hooligans only do things because theres no blame put on them, we blame a whole country not them. Take Russia during the 2016 Euros, Russian ultras attacked English families, not rival thugs but innocent fans, did Russia lose the 2018 World Cup. No because rightfully the actions of a few idiots shouldnt be a baring on the rest of the country who's fans want to enjoy football.

  • @JRichard20
    @JRichard202 жыл бұрын

    I think Jim is completely out of his depth here. Simon is usually spot on, imo.

  • @tobiadebiyi7490

    @tobiadebiyi7490

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jim is just daft

  • @bulliboyz
    @bulliboyz2 жыл бұрын

    Simon to Jim:: “let me finish my whataboutery rant”....Simon then proceeds to constantly jump in when Jim is talking

  • @johnsaxon1446
    @johnsaxon14462 жыл бұрын

    Spot on Simon Jordan!!

  • @VR46314
    @VR463142 жыл бұрын

    A lot of people are mad because people who bought tickets last year have had their ticket refunded and given to a suit. Doesn’t mean it’s right but some of those “ticketless fans” had their ticket taken away from them.

  • @billmwika7428

    @billmwika7428

    2 жыл бұрын

    Never knew that

  • @billmwika7428

    @billmwika7428

    2 жыл бұрын

    Still doesn't make it right though to act like that

  • @papamurrth1

    @papamurrth1

    2 жыл бұрын

    You have no idea if that is true. Did you interview the mob that charged through? If so, pass their details onto police. Shame if they had their ticket stolen, which isn't true, they stole a seat by charging in without a ticket. Defending criminals is pathetic

  • @VR46314

    @VR46314

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@papamurrth1 I’m not defending the mob who stormed in but I had a group of friends who bought their ticket for 2020 and only just before the tournament got refunded out of the blue and couldn’t buy a ticket . You could see why a small group would be mad but not 1000s of people .

  • @mohammedyusufal-hindi
    @mohammedyusufal-hindi2 жыл бұрын

    A celtic bid would be better. Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland

  • @susanpeters5392
    @susanpeters53922 жыл бұрын

    Well said Simon

  • @daedralord1
    @daedralord12 жыл бұрын

    Jim whites family must be embarrassed by what he constantly says.

  • @Grandmastergav86

    @Grandmastergav86

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, but it has the kickback of a salary so it's a massive step up from the care home. He's the Joe Biden of Sports reporting.

  • @jimthomson4052

    @jimthomson4052

    2 жыл бұрын

    Another anti Scottish remark

  • @shofiulazam7108
    @shofiulazam71082 жыл бұрын

    Talks about minority and proceeds to generalize every other country

  • @deansavage1555

    @deansavage1555

    2 жыл бұрын

    What part was a generalisation?

  • @marc3981
    @marc39812 жыл бұрын

    100% right from Simon. I'm sick of us being spoken about as scum of the earth by people who watched Russia World Cup and said nothing as their hooligans ripped through our fans. Same people who said nothing of south Africa in 2010, the home of apartheid, where racism is rife till this day. Same people who will say nothing about Qatar. Self hatred in this country is an absolute joke. Jim is Scottish. End of.

  • @PlatefulVerse

    @PlatefulVerse

    10 ай бұрын

    Qatar won their World Cup bid, you can keep being a sore loser about it or hope we actually get our act together next time a major tournament comes around. Why do you think England pulled out of the 2030 World Cup bid? It’s because they are sore losers who can’t accept defeat

  • @daveclare5958
    @daveclare59582 жыл бұрын

    Well said Simon, a voice of reason in an over the top newspapers, just to sell.

  • @chriswilson805
    @chriswilson8052 жыл бұрын

    By Jim's logic, we shouldn't host premier league games.

  • @snakeplissken5480
    @snakeplissken54802 жыл бұрын

    "context" - perfect Simon

  • @daireoreilly2548

    @daireoreilly2548

    2 жыл бұрын

    The context you need is that it was a few bad eggs this year, a few bad eggs in Russia, and in France etc. If the Russian hooligans do anything it’s indicative of their country and their culture. If the Hungarian fans shout homophobic chants their country is homophobic and disgusting, but when it’s English fans it’s a few bad eggs. You can only have so many bad eggs. Literally no other country in world football have excused should horrendous scenes minority or not.

  • @snakeplissken5480

    @snakeplissken5480

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@daireoreilly2548 I dont believe all russians, french , hungarians are bad, I dont believe you do either, but im sure your name probably indicates where your coming from.

  • @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
    @HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings2 жыл бұрын

    Mind Begs the Question: Anti Semitism - Sternly dealt with Racism,Islamophobia - if not Equally Sternly dealt with Govt,Judiciary - Fair,Racist?

  • @kingflixmovies837

    @kingflixmovies837

    2 жыл бұрын

    Try being a practicing Christian

  • @Timeculture
    @Timeculture2 жыл бұрын

    They both make good points, but the question remains: what is the appropriate punishment for England for this repeated and expected failure of its match day security? Is Jim suggesting it goes unpunished? Onana got 1 year ban for a failed drug test

  • @Grandmastergav86

    @Grandmastergav86

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jim has yet to make a single good point over the course of his career....There's still time.

  • @niceperson5962
    @niceperson59622 жыл бұрын

    British-Irish bid. Typical ... the English are only British when it's embarassing to be called English. These were English fans not "British fans". For "We" read England

  • @dtrez3866
    @dtrez38662 жыл бұрын

    I didn't like that the comments section for "mings is spot on" talksport video are turned off. Yet after "mings is spot on" title you've put this "👏🏾". So you are telling people he is right, applauding it, and not allowing any other views. I FIND THAT DISGUSTING. It is free shot in the political arena without any chance of a response. I don't like. That is sinister. How dare you. You are afraid of the free market place of ideas. I wish you were only cowards. But I believe this is more sinister.

  • @TheatypicalLife

    @TheatypicalLife

    2 жыл бұрын

    Because he's right. What argument against him can you make?

  • @dtrez3866

    @dtrez3866

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheatypicalLife I personally could make arguments, and I am as "black (which he identified as)" as mings. Do you want to hear my argument against mings? I can prove to you that there are reasonable arguments against mings and whether you agree with them or not, they are arguments that are totally legitimate and valid that are being silenced. I don't like arguments being silence based off an assumption that the first claim cannot be wrong. That approach is anti knowledge, declaring something to be right while denying any argument to be made against it. My argument which was not allowed to be heard 👇🏽 Priti Patel said “I just don’t support people participating in that type of gesture politics,” So as a politician, Patel said she herself does not support what she identifies as "gesture politics". A) is she not allowed to have an opinion? "I just don’t support". A politician is not allowed to Express their own opinion about a matter where players are making political gestures in front of the world? Is priti not allowed to give her opinion? Where was the "stoking of fires"? Whatever the question she was asked, she answered with that she herself doesn't support it. Is she allowed to do that? Where exactly is the crime? Where exactly is the "stoking fires"? So now, adults and politicians cannot give a view about taking a knee without being accused of stoking racism? Do you really wanna go to such a place? I don't. It is a dangerous place. Everything that others disapprove of could be claimed to be "stoking". An one day that could be used against you, your causes and your views. Consider that. B) if taking a knee is not political gesturing, then what is it? Is taking a knee a gesture? Is it being done in a political context? Yes to both. There is a basic view against mings position, but such a view has been silenced leaving mings view alone to be perceived as the only view that is valid. Please explain to me how my view/argument is not as valid as mings. Notice, you and anyone else has the chance to respond and argue against what I said. But talksport will not allow ANY arguments against mings. Sinister cowards. And something else to consider. Mings is blaming Patel over something that has yet been demonstrated to be true. I say this because one dude who was claimed to made racist comments says his account was hacked, the tweet came from device never used before , HE WENT TO POLICE and now the police are investigating. So in reality, 99% of the "racist tweets" could have come from agent provocateur hackers who could have done so for sinister purposes. Can you deny this possibility? Therefore, not only is mings not "spot on", you all could be being played like a violin by sinister people who NEED "racism" to be everywhere. Experience tells me that it is foolish to rule out foul play out. Why should what I have said above be silenced? What is wrong with it? I answered your question, now please answer mine. Thanks.

  • @cfcmoi11
    @cfcmoi112 жыл бұрын

    Simon is the man

  • @uziwiththeuzi5974
    @uziwiththeuzi59742 жыл бұрын

    Jim left Sky and has wanted Simon’s head ever since

  • @samsammsammm1547

    @samsammsammm1547

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jordan is a xenophobe white supremacist who justifies is views with irrelevant Whataboutery, Typical TalkSport pundit,.

  • @pizzagateisreal

    @pizzagateisreal

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@samsammsammm1547 ridiculous

  • @leemcqueen500

    @leemcqueen500

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@samsammsammm1547 What are you blabbing on about?

  • @Grandmastergav86

    @Grandmastergav86

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@samsammsammm1547 Based on what? lmfao He's never once expressed any such views of the sort.

  • @anthonywalker6623

    @anthonywalker6623

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@samsammsammm1547 utter nonsense. To the point that I'm not sure you have a clue what you just typed. 😂

  • @Ali-lv1be
    @Ali-lv1be2 жыл бұрын

    We need more Simon Jordans in the media. People who think rationally, have a balanced view and aren’t afraid to go against the grain.

  • @tanman966
    @tanman9662 жыл бұрын

    nice to see the comments are on for this video...

  • @philosophicallybroke8873
    @philosophicallybroke88732 жыл бұрын

    Simon, I admire your attempts to bring context to the discussion but it's waisted on Jim. He's a journalist and therefore wilfully ignores context. It's his job.

  • @tokhmi2006
    @tokhmi20062 жыл бұрын

    Also, football is a working class sport. This is not polo or horseracing or some elite sport.

  • @brandonmasters8996
    @brandonmasters89962 жыл бұрын

    Wonder what Gary Neville would say about this? He was shaking hands with the intruders and criminals at Old Trafford in May.

  • @brandonmasters8996

    @brandonmasters8996

    2 жыл бұрын

    To be fair to Gary....just like England...Man U do not win silverware anymore!!!

  • @robertmason6366
    @robertmason63662 жыл бұрын

    Anyone watching this show for the first time would think that Jim works for Hope not Hate with his selective Moral high ground regarding English working class. I'm surprised he didn't use the term knuckle dragged with his babbling butting in rhetoric!

  • @cookingwithaz
    @cookingwithaz2 жыл бұрын

    They hug you whilst your winning and the moment you loose they stab you in your back. Disgraceful.

  • @dannywall7074
    @dannywall70742 жыл бұрын

    Even Ben Foster said the atmosphere was worrying as he walked to the stadium with his son

  • @andyrobinson6560
    @andyrobinson65602 жыл бұрын

    Jim White critical of England fans booing Italian national anthem been to a few England v Scotland games and you can't even hear English anthem due to the booing

  • @thatsmoelikeit
    @thatsmoelikeit2 жыл бұрын

    Irish fans have never caused trouble at any international football match. Just nicer people not scum.

  • @davidcrook9293
    @davidcrook92932 жыл бұрын

    Simon Jordan this was not a minority it was thousands of people you defending these people you saying your not but sounds different, yes there should be checks before you get near the stadium but this is society today unfortunately, if you where there with your child scared stiff someone in your seat I bet you would change your opinion so disappointed in Jordan well done jim

  • @Shades_of_White

    @Shades_of_White

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thousands of people is a minority when the majority is 60 thousand at the stadium, or the millions watching from home or pubs. It is a minority, and it was sickening to watch, but they do not represent the majority of English football fans.

  • @thegameschanged1248
    @thegameschanged12482 жыл бұрын

    There were a number of Euro 2020 games held in Baku, Azerbaijan - a country that recently annexed and committed war crimes in Nagoro - Kabakh

  • @Johnb0789
    @Johnb07892 жыл бұрын

    Simon for PM. All I've ever heard from this man is sense and balance.

  • @mattfinch3895
    @mattfinch38952 жыл бұрын

    Media had this all mapped out. Win or lose they had there playbook sorted.

  • @craig2892
    @craig28922 жыл бұрын

    Simon Jordon for Prime Minister!

  • @petermullins4684
    @petermullins46842 жыл бұрын

    Shame on Jordan waterring this down. Always blame everyone else but themselves. Media, police, UEFA, Government, etc. Compare yourself to the worst instead of comparing yourself to the best. Riots everywhere they travel, since the 70s, the same lack of self accountability of the fans.

  • @michaeldevall8497
    @michaeldevall84972 жыл бұрын

    The ticket prices don’t reflect 99%,of this country so why should 1000 fans.

  • @superbia75es
    @superbia75es2 жыл бұрын

    I'm no Jordan fan...he trots out the landscape, narrative and scenario words like they give the illusion of intelligence. No, it's clichéd and dull. However, his point about Spain and Hungary is spot on. Fair play.

  • @joshuakaumba6273
    @joshuakaumba62732 жыл бұрын

    Everytime I hear jim white now I hear mark goldbridge's impression

  • @davidharrison6083
    @davidharrison60832 жыл бұрын

    Simon, you are brilliant. Nothing but truth and common sense. This is meat and drink to the media. They love it.

  • @Zeppelin180
    @Zeppelin1802 жыл бұрын

    Completely different tone from Simon compared to the Old Trafford protests...

  • @onetwo8847

    @onetwo8847

    2 жыл бұрын

    how... He is criticising the fans in both cases

  • @ganeegans
    @ganeegans2 жыл бұрын

    I am okay with 2030wc provided England gets a tough group. Say Brazil,France and South Korea maybe...

  • @glennbateman4483

    @glennbateman4483

    2 жыл бұрын

    Depends how high we are in the rankings

  • @alastairbrewster4274

    @alastairbrewster4274

    2 жыл бұрын

    Depends on the draw , why do certain ppl feel we somehow were given an easy draw? Are ppl that thick? England very easily could have gone out in the second round to one of the group of death teams , in fact every one here seemed to be saying that England would lose! Yet they didn’t , so many muppets just waiting for an opportunity to attack anything English. Actually by your rampant anti English agenda you’re the one being racist.

  • @TheZakluk
    @TheZakluk2 жыл бұрын

    YEESSSSS JORDAN. Fantastically well said under hostile intensity. Nicely done.

  • @pedropierre9594
    @pedropierre95942 жыл бұрын

    Its the best fans in the world remember

  • @seanek9
    @seanek92 жыл бұрын

    TalkSport literally had to disable comments on some of its videos covering the vile racism and the positive response in condemning those responsible. If you can’t even talk about it without a racist pile-on it’s obviously not just a small minority. It’s endemic. Not playing any big games like this in England going forward will certainly help.

  • @mulindejohn
    @mulindejohn2 жыл бұрын

    They haven’t even talked about the Italian fans getting beat up when coming out of the stadium. If am fifa no way am granting them the chance to host it.

  • @longlivetheboleyn1917

    @longlivetheboleyn1917

    2 жыл бұрын

    Because it didn't happen

  • @mulindejohn

    @mulindejohn

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@longlivetheboleyn1917 there is video of it lol. You English are deluded.

  • @DudleyBlue

    @DudleyBlue

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can you show Me evidence of that happening???? Or shut up with your lies….

  • @DudleyBlue

    @DudleyBlue

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mulindejohn post it in this comment section please otherwise you’re just another liar just making things up

  • @DudleyBlue

    @DudleyBlue

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@longlivetheboleyn1917 he’s says there are videos but funny enough can’t show us the evidence….. can you smell that???? sniff sniff it smells like bullshit….

  • @Shot007
    @Shot0072 жыл бұрын

    Simn is right and makes great points. But I have to say its just as much a problem to look blindly to the hooligans. Just as its problematic to always highlight them, its as bad to completely ignore them. And Jim White is right as well, "i will be balanced but we will report it!"

  • @mario4725
    @mario47252 жыл бұрын

    Shouldn’t hold the players parents in higher regard than other paying fans

  • @bud1876
    @bud18762 жыл бұрын

    Once again like many times before Simon Jordan makes sense. I watched the events happen on social media a bit after the game and didnt give it much thought....I was actually thinking if I had been younger and seen a gap to get in I would have went for it. The media in the UK should be ashamed of reporting this in the way they did. I dont think this should have any effect on future World Cup or Euro bids. I think it's long overdue for England to host a World Cup. I'm not for countries sharing, it should be all in one country.

  • @jukiranks
    @jukiranks2 жыл бұрын

    Simon Jordan is the type of man who'd rather say " there is no racism in England " because he doesn't want to put our society down, that's what I took from this. Think about how pathetic that is

  • @ianjones2731

    @ianjones2731

    2 жыл бұрын

    There's racism in every country but no where near the extent you'd like it to be.....and that's the truly pathetic part

  • @paulholman8594
    @paulholman85942 жыл бұрын

    Loads of people throwing stones in glass houses ere .. I look at the FV problems in Holland .. Italy .. Germany .. Poland .. Russia .. far far more serious than a few pissed up lads out for a jolly ?? People have been cooked up for nearly 2 years and we have the biggest final here since 1966 ?? What did people expect ?? I was their and the majority of people behaved well .. always a small minority who come out looking for trouble .. gangs of local youths who aren’t even football fans turned up for bother I seen that numerous of times that’s gone unreported .. absolutely disgusting the media are turning on our own people ?? Some of the things that go on at the football all over Europe regularly make this look like a stroll in the park .. England fans are the best in the world bar none home and away .. the tartan army ?? Good old Scotland fans their for a laugh ?? Living in a dream world .. most of them left Wembley and London in a mess smashed things and were fighting in the streets ?? But because it’s the tartan army it’s ok ?? Double standards

  • @aster7693
    @aster76932 жыл бұрын

    Where were the police or security? Surely an event this big should have a few police stationed at all entrances with additional private security, it's almost like it was let to happen

  • @marcwilliams2745
    @marcwilliams27452 жыл бұрын

    Simon Jordan talking absolute sense as per usual. What happened on Sunday was completely over exaggerated.

  • @ScuzzyBear45
    @ScuzzyBear452 жыл бұрын

    Excuses excuses excuses.

  • @captainblimp4133
    @captainblimp41332 жыл бұрын

    In a lot of countries people just sit anywhere they like anyway lol

  • @midnightman5139
    @midnightman51392 жыл бұрын

    I don’t know when FIFA announce the host, but I’m gonna do devils advocate and say that maybe this needed to happen if England bid team are serious about hosting the World Cup. Knowing that there is a minority of “fans” that can cause such chaos and embarrassment, the bid team will need to address this otherwise it will most certainly happen again in 2030 if it’s held in England.

  • @neilgibbs1973
    @neilgibbs19732 жыл бұрын

    Everytime Jim White opens his mouth he just confirms what Simon Jordan is saying .

  • @willhughes6566
    @willhughes65662 жыл бұрын

    Jim white like to jump in favour the press and hate every fan of ENGLAND. But if it was Scotland fans, he would be ignoring it

  • @mikedee171
    @mikedee1712 жыл бұрын

    Simon Jordan let me be honest I doubt the Uk bid is going to happen. Republic of Ireland cannot go along with this bid. The problem is England hooligans is a a big minority.

  • @Joelio8701
    @Joelio87012 жыл бұрын

    Simon actually talks sense

  • @faz0fcht
    @faz0fcht2 жыл бұрын

    Bang on Simon. Also why do we have to share the bid with Ireland ? We should go it alone.

  • @AbdulRahman-bd5uz
    @AbdulRahman-bd5uz2 жыл бұрын

    Minority??? Booing national anthems of opponents that wasn't minority...

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