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@forcecalibration924

Жыл бұрын

I’m just here for You and the intro because You complete… me😂.🔥

Was anyone else happy that Phoebe got a perfect happy ending? That poor girl deserved it more than anyone.

@aliciac.5808

11 ай бұрын

Yes! 🙌🏼

@yaboiedubs

10 ай бұрын

i thought she killed herself and the happy ending was made up lol

@PR7-82

7 ай бұрын

​@@yaboiedubswoah no 😮😞

@nakkie326

10 күн бұрын

Too perfect

The fact that Kate fell for Joe, who is actually exactly like her father (same obsession with "protecting" their beloved via literally murdering everyone who gets in the way) is so psychological; they say: girls tend to pick husbands based on their fathers, I guess, that applies here perfectly

@Saturdayz_In_The_Fall

Жыл бұрын

The way the season ended, I am no longer a fan of Kate.

@harmonymercurio

Жыл бұрын

^same

@realsarang

Жыл бұрын

@@Saturdayz_In_The_Fall you was a fan of her ? lol i didn’t like her from the jump.

@neltins5308

Жыл бұрын

This 100% lol, Tom even said it that joe is exactly like him actually, Kate fell in love with what most mimicked her father figure

@Yash_556

Жыл бұрын

But didn’t she loathed her father to the core? How can she fall in love with a person who’s exactly like the person she hates the most

Is nobody talking about the Actor who played Rhys because he KILLED it

@ScilexGuitar

Жыл бұрын

But we didnt see much of him, just a scene where he opens the door for Joe and then the scene where Joe tortures and kills him

@Tai.J911

Жыл бұрын

@@ScilexGuitar I hope your just trolling … and not this lost in reality 🤦‍♀️😂

@Orangejuice19030

Жыл бұрын

@@ScilexGuitar I know right!

@lt0518

Жыл бұрын

Agree! He was great. I wasn’t a fan of the season

@thindoug1357

Жыл бұрын

If you like him you gotta watch outlander, he's great at being a bad guy

The biggest twist of this season for me was when Marienne was in the cage, I for real thought she left. Before, I thought it was really stupid for the creators to give Tati Gabrielle “main cast” status this season when she was only in one episode and had no involvement in this season. They sure had me fooled 😭

@Heytno

Жыл бұрын

For me it was the complete opposite, after watching the first five episodes and how boring the plot was I immediately thought of Marienne, how he kept her necklace (typical Joe’s obsessive behaviour) + no glass cage which is what makes this show creepy. Call me observant but I Put 2 + 2 together… and I was right 😂 When I saw her in that cage I screamed I KNEW IT 😭

@raphcourte420

Жыл бұрын

Yes and I love that it dramaticaly revealed the famous cage

@mengchii9215

Жыл бұрын

Didn't see that one coming though I'm wondering why the guy hired by Love's dad never found out that he didn't kill Marienne. He's a professional so he must have known that Joe didn't kill Marienne. And then it made sense to me after seeing her in the cage.

@Dracula_sb

Жыл бұрын

Sorry to derail the comment, is there an explanation for the person texting Joe or was it a hallucination?

@kodeksusos5669

Жыл бұрын

@@Dracula_sbhallucination

Did you notice how this season we were not shown Joe's child backstory at all? There wasn't even one flashback to the times, when he was a kid or worked for Mr. Moony; I think it was a very intentional decision from the writers team - it's time that we understand, that Joe is not a hurt by life kid, who needs our sympathy, but real life monster, who needs to be punished for his actions

@Oxcymoron

Жыл бұрын

Well there is a split second where you see young joe either before he jumped or after when talking to Kate. My bad lol

@iammar1159

Жыл бұрын

@@Oxcymoron Lol what???

@calvinwright2214

Жыл бұрын

His whole thing is mommy issues though…

@Oxcymoron

Жыл бұрын

@@iammar1159 idek but the real question is who are the 5 people that agreed with me lol

@isaiah_b000clips8

Жыл бұрын

There indeed was a quick scene with young Joe, like @KOTF mentioned

The part of the ending I find the craziest is that Joe seems to have lost his ability to have compassion, one of his only redeeming traits. How he framed Nadia is something the “old” Joe would never do. This new version of Joe embracing his dark side is ice cold. For example how he couldn’t frame that guy once he knew he was going to get help, he felt too guilty. I liked the depth of his character when he had morals, but I also see what everyone is saying about how we are seeing him for the monster he is. I’ll be interested to see how season 5 goes.

@FUTrading

Жыл бұрын

I love the new joe... I wonder what that says about me

@angelinaj777

Жыл бұрын

joe has always been the same they just proved his narration is unreliable & he tried to make reasons with his killings when it’s just wrong period

@angelinaj777

Жыл бұрын

but he has completely lost it tho

@ceemartin5624

Жыл бұрын

If Marienne came out of hiding and came to Nadia's defence, she would get out of jail. I mean, London is full of CCTV cameras, all they have to do is use them as evidence.

@ArsenalBowler

Жыл бұрын

That part was also pretty shocking to me too, it’s the equivalent of him pinning Delilah’s death on Ellie. However in hindsight the loss of compassion made sense since he’s fully integrated his dark side.

When I saw Kate accepted Joe and loved him uncoditionally, I was sort of envious of that kind of love, but now that I think about it, Kate is litterarly another Love, she is just as horrible as Joe, but she she does not want to get her hands dirty, at least for now. I'm sure she is more than capable of calculated killing when the time comes.

@blackfyre3149

Жыл бұрын

The diffrence between love and Kate is that love wanted them to encourage each other to act on emotion and kill while Kate wanted them to make each other better

@Mpant.

Жыл бұрын

@@anonyyy85 you nailed it. Joe is Katie's actualised denial. If she has an ounce of humanity and selflessness in her when she wakes up she'll have chills about who sleeps besides her. But I don't think she'll ever wake up cause she is the daughter of a monster that always killed like it's nothing and she has so much money and power to lose so she's trapped into being exactly who her father wanted her to be. Yikes, indeed the perfect enabler is who she is.

@mimiad397

Жыл бұрын

​@@blackfyre3149 Kate is worse than Love

@hasphine7585

Жыл бұрын

I think they're similar but not the same. Love is the same as Joe in terms of being a killer - as Joe said, that was their love language. I don't think Kate enjoys killing in the same way. I think Kate loves Joe enough she will cover up for him and allow him to indulge in his 'hobby'. It's just as horrible as Love, if not worst, but I think they're operating on different levels. I very much consider Love and Joe's dynamic to be a 'killer duo' whereas Kate and Joe are 'CEO girlboss and her hitman/assassin boyfriend' lol

@7fifty7

Жыл бұрын

@@blackfyre3149 naaaa LOVE was the one. Who actually loved him unconditionally, the only one who truly understood him. And he killed her. Smh yeah she was a bit emotional but hey, SO WAS HE. Lol and he just got disgusted with her cause he kept seeing hiself.

Penn Badgley always at the height of his performance. respect for the actor who plays Rhys in tandem with Joe. a big crush on the performance of Tati Gabrielle (Marianne) in the cage. I went through all the emotions imaginable. congratulations to the actress who plays Nadia. they are the best characters in S4. respect for their work

@kylemorales2751

Жыл бұрын

Tati and Ed put in an amazing performance this season, almost as if they were the main characters.

In my opinion, the entire message of "You" is just commentary on how we, as an audience, would root for a monster as long as they are given enough "human" traits for us to feel for them. It's a socio-political satire about the duality of people, that even seemingly kind people can be monstrous and vice versa. This is one of my favorite shows of all time simply because of how fantastically well-written Joe is, despite how at times, the plot of his story can very much seem too convenient and cliche. The ending of this season can work as an actual finale, or a set up for season 5. Either way, Joe Goldberg is a fascinating fictional character that I think deserves to be talked about a lot more.

@oodragonoo6702

Жыл бұрын

Wow, great comment my guy. Somehow, despite Joe being a piece of shit, I can't stop watching him be a piece of shit. Thought this was the last season though, and wanted him dead, despite knowing that would most likely end the show. Kinda wish they would end it off there, but there's still story to be told. I just hope season five does well, and hopefully this fucker dies please for the love of God he can't keep getting away with this shit!

all opinions about the exaggerated plot aside, Penn Badgley is such a great actor! i hope he keeps getting more such work and not get locked in the image of Joe for too long!

@tianacastro2138

Жыл бұрын

He was in The Twilight Zone and The Stepfather both played as a good character

@st4rgazings470

Жыл бұрын

it’s the same way he was in the shadow of dan humphrey for awhile, i hope he lands a huge movie role after he concludes with you!

Seeing joe get away with it AGAIN was utterly frustrating.

@ronburgundy3172

Жыл бұрын

Man has that white privelege going alright lucky him he managed to sway another rich girl with daddy issues

@selenaherrera2028

Жыл бұрын

Fr but at least we’ll have another season to binge watch next year

@newchannel416

Жыл бұрын

They are getting closer its year.He is getting caught or killed in the last season next year most likely.

@garyleffew6794

Жыл бұрын

​@@newchannel416 I think they should end it right now as it is. It was a perfect ending in my opinion.

@newchannel416

Жыл бұрын

@@garyleffew6794 Nah..Too many loose ends to the story.The jar of piss from the first season,the cop that was on him,nedia,marienne,..Too many people know.We might see jenna for a guest. If anything the 3rd season seemed more like an end.

This season was a true masterpiece on so many aspects. I'm still in shock especially about Katie's arc and don't get me started on POOR EDWARD AND NADIA. JOE IS A TERRIFYING MONSTER. He ended that kid besides the pavement on broad daylight! The gore! So unnerving yet so realistic, showing us the audience his true nature with no more romanticised narrations. Exactly who he is: a dangerous serial killer. Also, can we talk about how disgusting Katie's father was with his incestuous vibes towards his own daughter!? It's completely logical for Katie to turn out to be who she is and Joe's enabler. Her monster of a father messed her up for life. I knew she was too good to be true. But also, her giving these kids cancer?! Yikes. On a more serious note, this season is also a great commentary about how the system is rigged from the beginning as it favours and protects the monsters of this world with the tools of money and power. Money and power literally outturn justice and there's no poetic justice as well. It's completely realistic and that's what makes it even more TERRIFYING to me.

@umairaali1952

Жыл бұрын

Her dad wasn’t incestuous tho

@Mpant.

Жыл бұрын

@@umairaali1952 I beg to differ. He had vibes that were insinuating that, that were ambiguous at the very least. That was my interpretation about him at least and from what I've seen I'm not the only one saying it. He was controlling her, wanting her to be near him at all times, was like her emotionally abusive bf with a benefactor mindset, he literally said to her in a very wierd way that he loved her out of all his children the most, and the biggest part was that he had a literal FILE, with entire lists about her romantic and seggsual endeavours. That's at the very least INSANE. Katie said it herself that he even had her bjs listed. I was wanting to vomit at that part. He was wierdly happy when expecting her at his workshop also. I truly don't know, maybe I'm reading it wrong but to me that did not seem like only a controlling father. He seemed disgusting violating every boundary that a father shouldn't have. Yes even a 1% rich psycho like him. So maybe that's enough for me to view it like that and maybe I'm wrong and you're right and it's all about control, because he is who he is. But, that file info scene that Katie mentioned near the fire pit was intentional. It showed us that she was forever uncomfortable with her father's non fathery behaviours when it comes to her AND her romantic partners and that he charms her to manipulate her besides the control part and that she couldn't escape him. It was an uneasy scene to me that showed that her daddy issues were deeper for a reason beyond the money and status. It's just that money and status enabled him to do these things. That scene showed that he wasn't just a father that wanted his daughter to be him and take over his company, he was directly an obstacle of her having a man and a family. She could have taken the company and even if he was controlling he could have wanted her to have one. But no he didn't. He sabotaged that. Well at the very least he was a narcissistic psycho that saw himself in her and that's why he acted like this and favoured her from all his children we can all agree to that. But yikes he was making her speeches about New York like they were bonny and clyde or something. In the end she became exactly that with Joe basically. Ironic. Also the fact that Joe freed her from her father makes her more enamoured with him.

@KxngLJ

Жыл бұрын

Hey, listen, Joe did what needed to be done. Nadia and Eddie were onto him and he could not go down like that. If they would have just minded their own business, then it wouldn’t have ended badly for them. Joe has my full support and it’s a good thing that he has finally decided to embrace his dark side. Now, no one will be able to stand in his way because guess what? HE’S GOING TO SLIT THEIR THROAT AND GET AWAY WITH IT EASILY! Especially the way that he was able to come up with a plan and hide the bodies of Tom and his bodyguard. Long live Joe Goldberg. 😂😂😂😂

@dogsbreakfast4952

Жыл бұрын

Masterpiece ? It was laughable dog shit. Completely unrealistic stupid characters

@Mpant.

Жыл бұрын

@@KxngLJ uummm.. 👁️👄👁️. Therapy. That's all I'm gonna say.

HE CAN’T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

@specialtwice4975

Жыл бұрын

Spoiler Warning, major spoiler ... He does.

@happyguy2k

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@everettenjeze6276

Жыл бұрын

Yes he can. He is the main character.

@homelessemperor2774

Жыл бұрын

Hank : he won't, you want to bring him down, let's do it together

@pankajsarmal2038

Жыл бұрын

I read this in Jesse Pinkman's voice. Kudos if you were going for it.

This season had so many amazing plot twists. When Joe killed Rhys & another one popped up I literally thought Rhys must have a twin. Or When I found out Joe put Marriene into the cage I literally could not believe it and was so confused. This season showed how badshit crazy he is and I love it. I’m still in shock over him framing Nadia. THIS IS INSANE

@jhgghcf

Жыл бұрын

Ikr

@WTC-1990

11 ай бұрын

I knew immediately that it was in his head after I saw the second Rhy pop up

Although I thought part 1 of this season was slow and kinda mid, this second half was WAYYY better and made this season my favorite

@fieryphoenix6728

Жыл бұрын

Same, I was not expecting any of the twists in the second half. I knew Joe was nuts to begin with, but now I really see he’s just a total psychopath. Had me rooting for him for so long until he straight up murdered that kid in the street

@CoolDrifty

Жыл бұрын

Opposite for me lol. I liked the plot shift of how for once, joe wasn’t actually the killer, plus the whole dynamic of him starting his new life and needing to prove how much he’s changed despite the “old” him getting dragged back in. It was the s2 twist that felt so out of nowhere imo

@user-vp6yq4fm5u

Жыл бұрын

@@CoolDrifty he actually was the killer he just suppressed it. It wasn’t going last long anyways. Not saying I want the seasons to be the same every time but at this point we know Joe is always a murder

@alycebagnath464

Жыл бұрын

completely agree! part 1 was losing me, but this show has such a chokehold on me, i had to see it through! part 2 had everything i needed!

@CoolDrifty

Жыл бұрын

@@user-vp6yq4fm5u yeah that’s the point, I wish they hadn’t done some knockoff fight club twist and kept it in the direction of part 1

I felt so bad for Nadia! She almost got joe! She at least got Mariene out alive, what a feat! Joe has no idea! Mariene could still come forward to testify on Nadia’s behalf but would also run into the issue of not being believed although there might be phone tracking data and cctv footage to support them. CCTV is all over London. I’m so surprised joe has not gotten caught. I’ve been rooting against joe ever since he killed Love. I honestly don’t get the difference between her and Kate to him other then maybe Kate is better at impulse control but both had money and power and helped joe hide his horrible crimes and still loved him. Maybe it’s bc Kate is trying not to kill or feels bad about it but then the ending implied she does kill just indirectly through joe and others. Maybe it’s just that joe has given into his nature and that’s the difference. With Love he was still in denial and was restricted bc of the family life. He married her out of duty after seeing his own reflection in her repulsed him. This season really made me hate him. I still liked it though!

@munkayttaja6913

Жыл бұрын

Joe didn't love Love bc she was like a copy of him. Kate doesn't kill, she also isn't impulsive like Love was

@everettenjeze6276

Жыл бұрын

Don’t be a hero. It’s a shitty job

@RatticusG

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if Kate is using him as a personal attack dog while Joe is using her to cover up his various crimes, it would be interesting to see Kate outwit Joe in the psychopath stakes because you can tell she's just as bad as both Joe and Love, the only difference is that she doesn't directly kill people herself.

@Noa......

Жыл бұрын

I've been rooting against joe ever since ep 1 from s1.

@adamkaleo4062

Жыл бұрын

mariene cant do shit now except stay under radar cause now Joe has power he can make any allegations go away with help of kate plus hes a hero back in london.

Well i want to see jenna ortega, nadia and marienne to come back for season 5 and take an ultimate revenge from joe for their lost once

@Shrey1g

Жыл бұрын

But joe did not killed jenna ortega's sister? and nadia was too nosy.marienne is scared shit less of joe

@jaygomex

Жыл бұрын

This season is the best

@aasthajaiswal4502

Жыл бұрын

@@Shrey1g but somewhere along the way he was responsible for the losses of there loved once . Whatever one can only dream.

@misschiefmanager6670

Жыл бұрын

He's responsible for it. Let's face it. Joe is a TERRIBLE person who happens to be charming. Also, I can't help but notice that inconveniences the lives of people of color. He puts them in crappy situations with tragic results. And he is often a paternal figure to them. The kid from season 1, Jenny Ortega’s character, and now recently Nadia. Jenny Ortega's character was a freaking minor whose sister, also young, had guardianship. She has no clue what happened to her sister. And what happened to Nadia is just freaking tragic. Joe likes to play this transparent social recognition of his white privilege and other crap, but he uses it to his advantage. He plays the 'woke' card to lower defenses and then attacks. He's GROSS.

@McPoof

Жыл бұрын

@@Shrey1g yeah but towards the end marienne seemed bitter when she read about joe almost like they hinting that she’ll take revenge

Can we talk about what a great actor rys - his alter ego is? Also Joe's psycho smile at the end! I thought it was the end of him but no!

@mimiad397

Жыл бұрын

The actor is amazing, you should watch him in outlander

@joyfulj1663

Жыл бұрын

@@mimiad397 the facial expressions everything were excellent!!

@RamonaMariaa

Жыл бұрын

​@@mimiad397 right!

@morningstarofdarkness

Жыл бұрын

I loved this guy he just stole the show!

@Waters..

Жыл бұрын

He absolutely killed this. He mad be like “whoa 😱” after it was revealed he wasn’t even real this whole time

i get that the whole rhys as a delusion thing is overdone, but they have foreshadowed joes hallucinations since season 1, it makes total sense that he would have that much of a severe psychotic break. i feel like most of the time this trope comes out of nowhere to wrap up a storyline, but i like it's use here. it also wasn't the main plot twist of the entire series, just a part of joes psychosis

@steffe.g.2043

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Also, Dr. Nicky called it since season 1. He told Joe it seemed there were 2 of him. And wanted to dig into his childhood but Joe didn’t want to touch on that…

This is a lot of likes… can y’all listen to my music?😂😂😂 I feel like they achieved a new goal that I've been wanting for a while. I hated how likeable Joe was. After this finale, I absolutely despise him. And that is how it should be. We shouldn't be rooting for him. He's a terrible person.

@ronburgundy3172

Жыл бұрын

He is a full blown villain now what i don get is why would he pair up with Kate? Didnt he have the same the setup with Love in S3? He is gonna get bored of her and dispose of her later down the line.

@maevab2923

Жыл бұрын

The ending is so bittersweet because although it was annoying how the old Joe always saw himself as this sweet innocent guy who only killed to protect the ones he loves, it was also nice to see he had some humanity left in him despise everything. I hated feeling empathy for him and it's what made his character endearing. Now that he has accepted he's just a terrible person? It's like his character died without anyone knowing or acknowledging it and got replaced by a new character with no morals, no consistancy, an imposter. Idk, it left me feeling kinda weird and sad AND NADIA, SHE DID NOT DESERVE THAT

@greendragon4870

Жыл бұрын

I don’t know,mate. He managed to save his love and didn’t kill Marianne. Still not rooting against him ))

@woe6994

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, I was so disgusted and this season was scary to me.

@Mpant.

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Finally.

I like that finally I don't want to root for Joe anymore. We were kinda on his side because he believed he's "good" and we believed him too. Now we saw his true self and how unstable he can be and that's very scary on top of everything else.

@generalyousif3640

Жыл бұрын

Who is we

@missyani7003

Жыл бұрын

we are 😂😂😂

@ployjh

Жыл бұрын

@@generalyousif3640 some of us lol

@ployjh

Жыл бұрын

@Anon some of us lol

@raymondsims7042

Жыл бұрын

@@ployjh I have no bloody clue why some of you thought he was an “anti hero”😂😂no the lad was horrible episode 1. And he’s always been the villain . And yet I still rooted for him. I still root for him now 🤷‍♂️I love well written and acted villains

I have a theory. In season one, Dr Nicky said that there’s two Joe Goldbergs . Meaning, that Joe’s mental state was slowly deteriorating from the very beginning of the show.

@accountsequity5587

Жыл бұрын

Good point. But I wouldn’t even say that is a theory. Someone like that is not in the right mental state. So at some point he was really gonna break down.

@gushernandez25

Жыл бұрын

He's a psycho, it's no deterioration.

Part 2 was great but there are a few things like Nadia jumping to the conclusion that her professor might be the killer because of one line Phoebe says. Or how instead of calling the police and have them hide in the very same place Nadia hid and ambushing Joe, making that very dangerous and stupid plan. I think the twist works because that's what Joe has been doing since s1, he always distances himself from his actions. It was Love, it was this it was that, he never accepts responsibility so him making an imaginary serial killer who's making him do things is in line. I also like that instead of giving him some kind of a redemption they are going full on evil mode so there is nothing to redeem. I thought the first part romanticized Joe a bit too much but part 2 did a good job of displaying that Joe is truly evil.

I LOVED the whole jekyll and hyde inspiration for this season, made sm sense when the key to the cage was found in a literal jekyll and hyde book. Genius

As far as I understand, what happened to Nadia was: Joe pinned the death or Rhys on her, making her look like she was obsessed with him. Eddie found the box and tipped the police, and then Nadia killed him for it. Because, as Joe said: anonymous tipster, they'll realise it was Eddie, that's why you killed him. And then Dawn is still imprisoned for the Eat the Rich Killer. Two different situations.

@bestnameeverf

Жыл бұрын

Imo joe framed Eddie as Rhys killer and then Nadia found out about it and killed Eddie. According to joe of course haha

@themagnificentorange672

Жыл бұрын

@@bestnameeverf yep

@amandacoelho9524

Жыл бұрын

@@bestnameeverf according to joe it was kind of like that lol

Joe ended up being the people he despises the most, the MF rich. Also him ending up in New York makes me think S5 will be the last, for the circularity and I would not be surprised if his brother, mother, paco, karen or someone returns/ shows up! This season was good and ended well, and achieved exactly what I think it set out to do. That ending made me hate Joe now and never thought I would and as much as I still want to love him that ending throws me mannnnn, I did have an inkling it would twist this way tho!!! I also love how this show, shows you people don’t change

@imstilljd3025

Жыл бұрын

Honestly with Jenna Ortega with her booming career going on I wouldn’t be surprised if they asked her to come back to help try to stop Joe

@robertgrier8943

Жыл бұрын

That’s what I thought was so ironic. He always hated the rich and now he is one of the rich .

@user-vp6yq4fm5u

Жыл бұрын

He’s contracted for 6 seasons I heard

@hollygillmore4457

Жыл бұрын

@@user-vp6yq4fm5u 5 it is sadly 😭

3:20 Joe treated everyone he loved like Tom treated Kate, even in season 1 not just season 4.

@raymondsims7042

Жыл бұрын

Yeah agreed joe is one of the most evil characters in tv history in my opinion 🤷‍♂️

@raymondsims7042

Жыл бұрын

@Thomas Shelby no joe is completely evil and always has been. He’s absolutely insane to😂😂but that doesn’t change the fact that he’s evil.

@raymondsims7042

Жыл бұрын

@SEN-NoVa right with ya😂😂💯🤝

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That last part with Nadia completely broke me. For every season until the last episode I was feeling sympathy for joe but now I completely dislike his character now that he’s fully embraced his dark side.

@Alex-gl1nv

Жыл бұрын

Fuck Nadia 😂 let’s go joe

the cliche in my opinion was just fine and i like that now we see Joe's true face. Really evolving the character

I would have liked it better for the plot if Joe's suicide attempt had actually been successful. The scene with him and the hallucinated Rhys on the bridge, their entire conversation touched me very much. Joe realizing all the terrible things he has done, but not managing to change and therefore committing suicide fits very well into the story and the show would have had a tragic but coherent ending. But then he is saved and you think he has changed, but then he has not. He murders Eddie and frames Nadia for it, although Kate, as his new girlfriend, could have easily gotten rid of the evidence Nadia found in Joe's apartment, just as she restored Joe's identity through her father's contacts and a lot of money. It makes no sense that Joe admits to his atrocities and even wants to commit suicide to stop them for good but then continues murdering. But killing Joe would have meant that the fourth season would be the last and since the show is still pretty successful the producers probably want to release a fifth season so they let Joe live.

@rachelbelanger4726

Жыл бұрын

Maybe him unloading everything onto Kate and having her accept him had something to do with that?

@tannyocean9984

Жыл бұрын

Something I heard about suicide, that you don’t really want to kill yourself, you just want to kill the part of you that feels so bad. They said in the show that Joe regrets jumping the moment he jumped, so I think it is his guilt that died when he jumped, not who he is

@Alcantara.clarisse41

Жыл бұрын

@@tannyocean9984 oh that’s interesting

@cynthiazavala4507

Жыл бұрын

I think the suicide scene was meant to say that the Joe who wanted to be good , the dellusional Joe and the Joe with guilt did die . He came out as what he truly is . A selfish murderer

@tannyocean9984

Жыл бұрын

@@cynthiazavala4507 yeah I think so. Joe’s evil side never made him feel bad, that’s why his projection of Rhys is always smiling and happy. It was Joe’s desire for redemption that makes him feel bad (even though that’s what makes us viewer sympathetic to him). When he jumped he regretted it, and thought “I should’ve fought harder”. In that moment, he doesn’t feel the remorse for his crime, and his guilt disappears. He accepts that his desire to be good is the real illusion that tortured him, and he is truly a monster…and then Kate comes around and shows him that even monsters like him can be loved, perhaps because she thought of herself as the monster who gave dozen kids cancer as well, and Joe has showed her love so he deserved it from her

They definitely have more story to tell, so I know we will get another season. Nadia being arrested, Joe's son still existing out there, the fact they're back in New York where he was with Beck, so many things.

@audhp

Жыл бұрын

And Marienne!!

I like how they picked the music in the last episode. Rooting for the anti hero. Thats what this show has been the whole time, but maybe not anymore.....

@yoquese365

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, Not anymore.

@sunshine123401

Жыл бұрын

I cackled so much when Anti Hero started playing.

@fightnight14

Жыл бұрын

For Jonathan Moore, yes. Not for Joe Silverburg though

“He can’t keep getting away with it!” - Jessie Pinkman, tearfully

I loved season 2&3 because of Love especially. She brought an interesting aspect to the character dynamics, by being a reflection of Joe in a sense. And I think both of those seasons are, artistically speaking, high quality, for what they want to portray. But what they did with Part 2 of season 4, is outright genius writing, story development and dialogue. It is just insane. I didn't think they could top season 3, but they made the impossible happen. Props to the writers! And the actors too, needless to say. So I wanna conclude by saying, that I find a score of 7/10 to be a bit low, for that wild second part of the 4th season. I'd say this season desearves at least 9/10.

This season was totally my favorite, I started to fell off at season 3, but in season 4 the twist made so much sense and was ingenious for me, it made me appreciate the first part that felt a little off so much more and how Joe acted in the ending felt like he was finally embracing himself and becoming a true monster that is honest with himself finally, it was amazing and I can't wait to season 5

So is bro just gonna win every season 😭😭😭 greatest plot armor of all time

@animishgarg8079

Жыл бұрын

Bro I think we audience want him to win because in some or other way we are attached to him from season 1 and I am with joe he is trying to become a good person and now I think he will in the ending

@void6573

Жыл бұрын

Bro luck is crazy 😂

@yoquese365

Жыл бұрын

​@@animishgarg8079 well not anymore, I was rooting for him until the ending. I think season 5 will be just about Joe being totally psychopath.

@newchannel416

Жыл бұрын

He is not.They are getting closer as the show gettin closer to the end.They are 2 women out there who know what he did and he doesnt even know 1 of them is alive.

@yoquese365

Жыл бұрын

@@newchannel416 I think he would know that Marianne is Alive since there will be news about her.

If it weren’t for you, I wouldn’t have known part 2 came out. Time to watch it and come back

@dhagaxyahangemstones9815

Жыл бұрын

joe dies

There is no plausible explanation anyone could ever tell me that would convince me that this ending could've actually happened. I just have so many issues with the unbreakable plot armor joe has been accumulating progressively as each season goes on. Surely one detective out there would at least be able to put together that joe was closely involved in the crimes, deaths and disappearances of candace, beck, love, malcom, simon, gemma, delilah, forty, peach, rhys, nadia and paco; has the show also forgotten that sherry and cary are still alive and were attacked by him (and love)? A sloppy "i made my helpless husband do it" in a suicide note doesn't change the fact he was complicit in kidnapping them. Theo also saw on the cameras that he put natalie's body in the car. A ferret could put that all together and make a solid case against him oh but since he's left those places and has big fancy lawyers who can clean any name offscreen he's fine.

@haileydegroff9457

Жыл бұрын

I do agree its very implausible but with Kate having nearly and infinite amount of money/resources I don't think it's unbelievable to think that she just bribed/silenced everyone who knew about the real Joe. When you have that much power you can pretty much get away with anything. Her father did just that as we saw.

@avanassiry

Жыл бұрын

That would be a good finale for the show.

@ethelyolande

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. As much as I love the show, I hate that they make it so easy for Joe. Everythung works in his favor. I hate how they make almost everyone in the show his victim. And make him always a step ahead of everyone.

I knew it was too good to be true and that he won’t die so quickly but damn I’m still so pissed lol I want him to be outsmarted by a women (preferably my girl Nadia) next season. Even better if they’ll lock him in his own cage. Ugh part 2 was great compared to part 1 imo

@Shrey1g

Жыл бұрын

Man is a criminal mastermind, no one can outsmart him

@sophiesh21

Жыл бұрын

@@Shrey1g i agree but a girl can dream I guess

@dex-7826

Жыл бұрын

Nadia is unfortunately in prison now, there’s no way she would be able get out but I’m sure that he’ll eventually get his own karma

@TM-il8rb

Жыл бұрын

@@dex-7826 marianne could possibly testify for her

@dex-7826

Жыл бұрын

@@TM-il8rb with what proof

I personally think the ending wasn’t as bad as I excepted, it shows us that joe is a true monster and that he continues his ways no matter what. I wouldn’t have minded him dying when he jumped and ending it there, I also don’t think his relationship with Kate will last long because he will want to fall back into some kind of pattern again…. Also wouldn’t mind seeing Henry in a spin off series or something.

@raymondsims7042

Жыл бұрын

Oh no not a spin off series!!!🤦‍♂️

@wendymartinez1913

Жыл бұрын

@@raymondsims7042 lol I think just know what happened to him and how he turns out considering who his biological parents are…

@arfhat89

Жыл бұрын

No spin-off with Henry. The parallels with Dexter and Harrison will be too much.

@raymondsims7042

Жыл бұрын

@@wendymartinez1913 oh😂😂it’s just that spin offs are usually a waste of time in my opinion

@raymondsims7042

Жыл бұрын

@@AA98 yeah he became the exact type of person he claimed to hate🤷‍♂️the whole season he hated rich, victim playing, jerks. Now he’s all of that😂😂and worse. I thought it made sense

Idk but how did Nadia know that when Joe assumes Marienne to be dead, he would not chop off her into pieces to dispose like he does?

@TheLeijosa

Жыл бұрын

It was a gamble. Mariene played his heart strings though with her “suicide” letter hoping he would do as she asked for her daughter’s sake. His last shred of human decency before completely turning to his dark side and integrating with “Rhys”.

@Rohan_sharad

Жыл бұрын

Cos she asked him in the letter to leave her in a public place to make sure her daughter doesn't wait for her...he even says it

@munkayttaja6913

Жыл бұрын

Bc it's what she wanted. They obviously couldn't be sure if he would do it, but they took the risk

@danielchiu6047

Жыл бұрын

This is one of the 100 'doesn't make sense' parts in this season. I want them to stop ruining this wonderful series. No more S5 please.

@KingRose339

Жыл бұрын

@@danielchiu6047they literally wrote in the suicide note to leave her body where it could be found clearly you weren’t paying attention 😂

Best part about that reveal with how it turns out that the real Rhys was an innocent man while the guy that Joe was talking to was really a part of his psyche, just throws out the window a story where Joe is actually pretty much the hero who is out to take down this psychopath. Because that’s not how this show and his character work. Joe is not an anti-hero, he’s a villain

For me personally this was my favorite season so far I mean the amount of times joe got caught was probably a record number it just get like London was harder than the other seasons

Eddie tipped the police that there was Rhys things in Nadia's bedroom. Nadia then "kills" Eddie for tipping the police and takes fall for the murder of Rhys. The weird stalker women still takes the fall as the eat the rich killer.

@tessy28

Жыл бұрын

His alter ego is a true genius

Honestly, I loved this season. It was refreshing. I'm happy Marianne is alive. And Joe has finally realized what a monster he is. The plot twist with Rhys and the ending were sooo good. Sure, Joe won and he shouldn't but I'm glad he did, because I love this series and Penn Badgley's acting. And I have to admit that I'm kinda rooting for Joe and Kate 😅🙈 I mean it's just fiction.

Now he's full blown villain just like Dexter did in the end of Season 2. Excited for Season 5 now.

@Noa......

Жыл бұрын

Dexter is more of a anti-hero and he tends to kill people who are monsters.

@v47gaming59

Жыл бұрын

@Anon I know he is a villain but you u see in this season he wanted to kill himself like Dexter wanted to surrender in season 2 .But after he accepted himself like Joe did in the end more like second chance. They even said same dialogue of second chance..

@v47gaming59

Жыл бұрын

@@Noa...... Right. That's why I like Dexter more but he also killed innocent people if you remember..

@newchannel416

Жыл бұрын

I was lowkey waiting for that moment.Just to see badgley play that side.I think thats joe at his best.

@arfhat89

Жыл бұрын

Dexter was an antihero in his original series but in New Blood, he becomes the villain in the end by breaking his code and impulsively killing innocents for self preservation.

the way i was cheering when he jumped off the bridge...only to be revived 😮‍💨

Damn I was so disappointed by the ending. Poor Nadia. Those two r just two psychos who will kill people and cover for each other. This season should have ended with Marianne popping in the last 30 seconds and stabbing his ass

@lavarball5097

Жыл бұрын

But then there wouldn’t be a season 5 😂 why do you think they are keeping him alive and getting away with this ..

@diegonin5181

Жыл бұрын

​@@lavarball5097it seems like they are stretching the show tbh

@raymondsims7042

Жыл бұрын

@@diegonin5181 I don’t feel that way. But I would think so if it went past season 5. They need to wrap it up next season

@diegonin5181

Жыл бұрын

@@raymondsims7042 Agree, though Joe's suicide wouldve been a way to send the show off it seems like stakes have been raised now that Joe has accepted himself and becane the villain of the show

@raymondsims7042

Жыл бұрын

@@diegonin5181 no argument from me🤝

I remember when season 1 came out, everyone made comparisons to Penn Badgley's previous character in Gossip girl and how much they hated that character and this was better. I found it funny how people hated a sane guy in the midst of spoiled rich brats but loved and rooted for a literal serial killer. Thank goodness for this season finale for breaking that illusion for so many people.

We appreciate your effort and hard work on this channel. God bless you.

This is one of best seasons I’ll completely enjoyed of “You” it’s such a mind fuck of a twist but it’s gets bloody for greater good, Hopefully we have next season with Joe,Kate & the other survivors to get back at joe, I do truly believe next season will be the last 👀🔪❣️

@firstlast9846

Жыл бұрын

Ngl haven’t seen part 2 but part 1 was the weakest the series has ever been

@face0fmars

Жыл бұрын

Lol??? Worst season ever. Was not needed. Should have stopped at s3.

@hell8255

Жыл бұрын

I loved it too. I have to say season 3 is my favourite but 4 is my second fave. I just didn't enjoy 1 at all, 2 I enjoyed a little more.

@nooneknows19

Жыл бұрын

@@face0fmars nah s2 deserves last place for “I wolf you”.

@danielchiu6047

Жыл бұрын

This season is the worst season by farrrrrr

For the past couple of seasons we've seen Joe struggling and failing to overcome his Demons. Now, he's embracing them completely and he now has unlimited wealth and power. A part of me is sad that this is happening but deep down I've always known there was no redemption for him. He's full on villain now.

Joe has a lot of enemies as well as ppl who thought he was dead. Quin family & assassins, becks friends, Ellie, mariane, ect.

I think he meant the anonymous tipster that told them Rhys stuff was in Nadia’s bedroom was Eddie, she found out it was him that snitched and she later killed him for alerting the police. It doesn’t make sense why Nadia would kill Rhys Montrose’s murderer yet they weren’t very close…. I love love this season!!!

Hey Paul. Great review thanks for the shout out pal. I smashed that like button like you asked. BFF.

For a second i thought Rhys had an evil twin😅😅

@gizemakbaba1842

Жыл бұрын

I also thought he had a twin

i really liked the way they make joe kinda more likeable than usual in the first half, but in the second they were like "gotcha! you were rooting for this despicable human being" i'm ready for a woman to end him in season 5

I still cannot find a logical explanation on how is it so easy for Joe to assemble a MASSIVE glass cage everywhere without being noticed and even find the same exact materials across the ocean and then dissapear it like nothing. AMERICA EXPLAIN!

First he was the eat the rich killer, now he's just a rich killer.

I think It would of be fitting if the suicide was successful... if they added a flashback part, I think I could of shed a tear for joe and that would leave a very good predicament for the viewers. Once again we feel for a monster... that's what this show is about. Knowing hes bad but at times willing him on lol

@yuktasadadekar4380

Жыл бұрын

Ikr, the suicide being successful would have been a great ending to the series, considering the efforts Joe put into changing himself and realising that killing himself is the only way. After the hospital scene, I finally thought Joe is definitely going to redeem himself and was rooting for him, until what he did to Eddie and Nadia, and now I only want to see him behind bars lol

@Katielovegood44

Жыл бұрын

@@yuktasadadekar4380 I would love to see his caught and punished, but I feel the show had always handled joe in a way that made the viewer cheer him on at times and let us question our reaction... so maybe justice isnt the answer to the end either

@maevab2923

Жыл бұрын

@@Katielovegood44 I wonder how they will make us cheer for him from now on. He basically doesn't have any redeeming qualities left

@blackfyre3149

Жыл бұрын

​@@maevab2923 I'm pretty sure this was the last season bro

@danielchiu6047

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Him dead would be 10 times better ending than the actual one. They just only want to make money with the sequel. Don't care about the plot do they?

Joe set up Nadia for Rhys’ murder by leaving the box in her bedroom and Eddie as the anonymous tipster then Nadia killing Eddie after she found out he tipped off the police. He pinned everything on Nadia.

@plantbasedbri_

Жыл бұрын

I don’t get why she wouldn’t spill the beans like Joe doesn’t have multiple ties to him for murder.

@josspeladeau2512

Жыл бұрын

It annoyed me bc she has no motive to kill Rhys like why would she do that

@roseanneelliott3817

Жыл бұрын

She was too nosey

You have no idea how much I appreciate this recap - I was starting to forget important plot points, but now I'm back on track.

I just wanna know how Joe scouted the perfect spot in a busy part of downtown London and managed to sneak all the parts and tools down to construct his high tech jail cell.

@gissellel663

Жыл бұрын

Same! I was like how in the hell is he able to drag that thing around so easily

wouldnt joe be curious why marienne never was found by anyone in the park? I feel like hes the kind of person who would definetly keep track of what happens to her body.

@ednajoseph8601

Жыл бұрын

I think in S5, he’s going to figure out Marienne is still alive and go after her. That’s going to be his downfall. End of the series.

13:51 I actually liked how they broke the story mold & gave us different perspectives. They left Kate’s POV & past so vague they have a lot to work with moving forward!

It's crazy to think of where Joe has been from all his interactions, kills, and locations. I felt bittersweet seeing Beck and Love reflecting on where things were with those seasons. I'm not 100% where Season 5 will go or end but I'm on the journey lol.

Imagine if Nadia, Marienne, Ellie, Dr. Nicky, Sherry & Cary team up to make their own Sinister Six in Season 5💀 Ngl I'll pay to see it

@vulamnguyen9453

Жыл бұрын

LoL it will be the worst season ever

@Anna-dz8qk

Жыл бұрын

technically you already pay to watch the show🤷‍♀️

@cindyj.4695

Жыл бұрын

Too cliché

I have never been so stressed. He needs to go 😭

@skunney

Жыл бұрын

Sameeee part 2 had me stressed tf out 😭

My biggest gripe is Joe has more hair than a Sasquatch but none of it is ever left in crime scenes

Penn is such a great actor I'm so impressed. His final smile was just so creepy in a different way than before. And Tati, too. Her crying was so believable it was unsettling to watch

I knew something is sus about Rhys only talking to Joe in the first part. Anyone wondering wth Joe told Phoebe at Sundry’s?

@lianat8879

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I just don't understand why it wasn't revealed at all!

Joe actually isn't the same old Joe. Prior to this season Joe would've never framed an innocent person, much less someone as young as Nadia. The Joe that we saw at the end, had absolutely no remorse.

This season deserved more than 7/10. The reveal was not flat. I’m sad to see the show finish. It’s the best show on Netflix currently.

Just coming from watching season 4 part 2. Honestly part 1 makes much more sense now. For those who gave up on it after part 1 you really need to watch part 2. I highly recommend it, you'll love it. I also think it should end here. Though it hasn't been confirmed if there's ever going to season 5 Caroline Kepnes the author of the book series from which the show is adapted from is set to release her forth book by April this year. All 4 seasons have been amazing, I don't have much hope if it will continue being this good if it doesn't end here. I really to wish to be proven wrong.

Do Yellowjackets next before season 2 starts, that show got me hooked after the opening scene but I did rushed through some of the scenes

@heavyspoilers

Жыл бұрын

probably gonna do an ending explained on it

@e.enriquez4589

Жыл бұрын

@@heavyspoilers you’re the best definitely buying mech on my payday

I hated how they made it look like Phoebe’s obsessed friend knew all about Joe, I hated how Nadia didn’t go to the police. And Kate is just a billionaire version of Love Quinn🤦‍♂️

Thank you for both recaps. I couldn't make it past episode 1 of season 4 because I was tired of Joe.

@steveharrington2512

Жыл бұрын

okay dont watch lol

@broheim3348

Жыл бұрын

@Steve Harrington I didnt...thanks?

they already pinned the "Eat the Rich" killer thing on Dawn, the erotomania woman from Part 1. that part is over. so they just pinned Rhys Montrose's death on Eddie, and, using Joe's logic, the "reason" that Nadia "killed Eddie" was because she really liked Rhys and wanted to see the good change he would do to the area/London overall. He's pinned a lot of his deaths on other people this season: Malcolm, Simon, and Gemma's deaths on Dawn, Tom's death and his bodyguard's death on each other, then Rhys's death on Eddie, and Eddie's death on Nadia.

I was hoping Joe would be become a Jack-The Ripper type this season, but I like the twist

If we do get a season 5 I highly doubt Jenna will be in it I mean with Wednesday season 2 and now scream 7 she will probably be travelling a lot

@jasonbloxor1773

Жыл бұрын

Low-key she really don't even need to come back if anything I want paco to come back he will be back in New York so who knows

@andrewdorton4845

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonbloxor1773 I think pack and his mother moved away right ?

@anthonylesley982

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonbloxor1773 true she doesn’t Ellie’s story wrapped nicely in my opinion

😂😂 the commentary in the beginning! Love it!

Personally, I don't think anyone knows about the planted Eat The Eich killer. She was quiet, right? I think the cops just found her with a body and with her not saying anything, they just took her in for the murder. The boyfriend (I forgot his name already and I literally just finished watching) had a rich family so whoever came to claim his things, probably covered it up. But also, I think they left it loose so that she (Nadia) could come back in a variety of ways. This season was amazing and I loved it but it was a bit too easy to guess what was happening to Joe. Season 5 is going to be a masterpiece. If only the MCU would take half as much pride smh Great video

The audience needs to root for Joe's enemies, i.e. Marianne, Nadia, etc for Joe to be toppled by those characters. Otherwise, people are not going to be very happy with the end result. Honestly, Joe was made a little too 'likable' for a villain that he is, tbh. It's a good thing that Joe finally is full-on 'villainy' by the end of season 4. Maybe, it will create more dislike toward his character and hoping for him to 'end.'

Based off how the season ends, i feel as if the Rhys persona of Joe has fully taken over the body. I can see season 5 with Rhys in full control being completely evil with Joe in the backseat. It would not only give Joe his redemption arc but it would also make sure to show how messed up Joe is internally instead of making him completely evil or completely redeemed.

rhys actor was amazing i loved every scene

Season four is excellent ! Unbelievable! Keep it coming !

This season was interesting PT.2 really made me not like Joe at all. The last couple episodes were scary too.

@jimbeck6613

Жыл бұрын

Bro said scary 😂😂

In season 5, I think what will happen is that the evidence that he’s left behind will finally catch up to him, for example that urine sample in a jar from season 1 among many other things.

@damlaustun3181

Жыл бұрын

Except he's so rich and influential now, he could just find ways to hide it. If Tom Lockwood could, then now Joe and Kate can too

@lianat8879

Жыл бұрын

@@damlaustun3181 Joe and Kate will break up in season 5 anyway because Joe will, as always, fall for another woman.

Marianne is coming for him. When she was reading the book to her daughter and saying goodbye to her we thought it was from the past but it was actually the future! Because in the end scene when she was reading the article about Joe she’s wearing the same clothes (jean overalls). She might be the one to finally stop him!

This season is honestly the perfect ending for the series. Extremely messed up but fit with the themes of the show. Given how subpar the writing was for certain parts of this season, I'd rather it end here than have the writers find a way to mess it up with inconsistent writing that clashes with the themes of the show. Also its insane to see how many people are just now realizing how much of an Irredeemable monster Joe was.

I didn't mind the "twist". I mean sure, it was super predictable, but I didn't feel like they really put much emphasis on it because they knew it wasn't about the twist. It was more about the performance and dynamic which was.... fucking bravo.... that's all I can say.

is it bad that im still kinda rooting for Joe at the end 😂 just cause I want to see more of this and see what he does next so it doesnt end soon

@missyani7003

Жыл бұрын

yeah i want more 😂😂😂

@rahulkumarr1179

Жыл бұрын

nothing wrong ,the whole series is for enjoyment and joe is surely an engrossing character and no need of getting woke in fictional series. People actually enjoy murder series to the point that heinous incidents of serial killers who have killed dozens are capitalized for entertainment but they will come here and say things like "it was disgusting and unsavory" then why is it the most watched? . Best example is Jeff Dahmer series being top 3 most watched

@radhikarb7047

Жыл бұрын

mee too... can just never hate joe . i dislike him at times but just cant hate him 😭😭..

@mrVP96

Жыл бұрын

@Vibhas Sharma that's actually a great point and never looked at it in this way. The woke community are taking this show a little too seriously 😂 I see comments on this vid like "I hate Joe, I hate how he always gets away with it, im rooting for everyone trying to stop him!" And I'm just here rooting for Joe cause it's entertaining and I love his character honestly lol unfortunately yet another great media that the woke community try to ruin 🤦🏽‍♂️

Thanks for this.

Penn Badgley should get an Emmy this time.

The ending truly terrified me he’s unhinged. Gotta be honest I never really liked Nadia but I feel bad for her. Also gotta be honest and say I don’t want a season 5 and he should have died this season…I mean permanently. Curious to know what Nadia did with the flash drive that had all Joe’s dirty deeds on it.

@Grey_witch88

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The framing scene gave me chills. I really hope she gets her revenge

@Alex-gl1nv

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No I hate Nadia I was so happy there’s no YOU without JOE 😂

I knew Reese was an illusion… but at the end of part 1 did joe shackle himself and the other guy up when the fire went out in that underground pit??? That lost me

@munkayttaja6913

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Yes he did

@fightnight14

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They really went that far just so people would be less suspicious but I felt cheated

@lilianamtz6456

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Because joe was in denial and hes "good" part shackle himself to continued been fool that he wasnt the bad guy. Just like fight club or split... he was multiple personalities. The good part shackle himself and the bad part seen that and trow the lamp to start the fire knowing he could scape easily, and try to make joe's "good" part leave the other guy to burn. .

Thanks for the info

I first thought Joe had pinned the murders on eddy but after reading it in text I think it’s clear he’s saying they’ll realize Eddie is the anonymous tipster and that’s why Nadia killed him