You're Using Your Monitor WRONG! (Here's How to Fix It)

Ғылым және технология

When you realize you've been doing it wrong this whole time... 😬
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0:00 - Intro
1:58 - "Color Management" Basics
5:49 - Demo: Why a Color Profile Matters
8:24 - When ICC Profiles Are Used
9:45 - Where to Get ICC Profiles
10:48 - Why Use a 3rd Party Profile
14:11 - Installing an ICC Profile
18:04 - More Notes After Installing
19:23 - Old Windows Photo Viewer
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  • @ThioJoe
    @ThioJoe2 жыл бұрын

    Mfw I originally thought this would be a quick video but then remembered color management is a nightmare in complexity and had to explain a bunch of stuff for context 📝UPDATES SINCE THIS VIDEO WAS PUBLISHED: • It seems that the newer 'Photos' app in Windows is indeed color managed now

  • @baribari1000

    @baribari1000

    2 жыл бұрын

    oh lol

  • @windowsxpprofessional

    @windowsxpprofessional

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lolllololololol

  • @AsifAAli

    @AsifAAli

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. We are a bunch of dumb people Only ThioJoe knows how to use things correctly. ☻

  • @treesapien5762

    @treesapien5762

    2 жыл бұрын

    lg support sucks. can i have a link for the software? I figured it out

  • @baribari1000

    @baribari1000

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was first like and reply noiceee

  • @Boostiverse
    @Boostiverse2 жыл бұрын

    I love these videos they’re always something I didn’t really know, it’s never beating off to a dead horse

  • @beanbagburrito

    @beanbagburrito

    2 жыл бұрын

    i dot think thats how you say it

  • @ABoxIsMyHome

    @ABoxIsMyHome

    2 жыл бұрын

    lmao yeah quote is not that chief

  • @PRODBYVOTY

    @PRODBYVOTY

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheKing29102 Did you win the lottery

  • @Rennagade_king

    @Rennagade_king

    2 жыл бұрын

    Idk what you guys are talking about. Beating off to dead horses is the best ❤️

  • @Adrien_broner

    @Adrien_broner

    2 жыл бұрын

    Get help

  • @chi11estpanda
    @chi11estpanda2 жыл бұрын

    You know what else I love about the old photo viewer?! You could right click on the photo and select an option to take you to that file so that you can easily locate it in a sea of photos when trying to separate them into another directory or something

  • @chriswilmes3848
    @chriswilmes38482 жыл бұрын

    Another quick note on this; Some applications will occasionally cause windows to disassociate the chosen icc profiles you've just applied, and kick the output back to system defaults (overriding the colour management settings in windows). This mostly occurs in gaming apps and some full screen applications. If this happens to you, one recommendation is to use a free program called Colour Profile Keeper. Once installed, simply follow these steps: - Select the correct profile for the relevant screens and hit apply; - Select lock profiles, to stop programs over-riding it; & - Enable launch at startup & minimise to tray. This has been the most successful solution for me so far, although some apps will occasionally continue to reset your icc profiles. Lastly, make sure your monitor's hardware colour profiles are correctly selected in the OSD.

  • @sumit7064

    @sumit7064

    Жыл бұрын

    I used DisplayCAL over that

  • @alexmangorove

    @alexmangorove

    Жыл бұрын

    This only applies to gamma correction curves, color space transforms don't work in games in the first place.

  • @Connection-Lost

    @Connection-Lost

    5 ай бұрын

    Or I could just continue not caring

  • @gameswithoutalex7073
    @gameswithoutalex7073 Жыл бұрын

    you mention this disc as if anyone has an optical drive these days

  • @Felttipfuzzywuzzyflyguy

    @Felttipfuzzywuzzyflyguy

    25 күн бұрын

    And yet they still ship the disc and he immediately mentions the files are online too so...

  • @dudemanjones1118

    @dudemanjones1118

    25 күн бұрын

    I do

  • @gameswithoutalex7073

    @gameswithoutalex7073

    24 күн бұрын

    @@Felttipfuzzywuzzyflyguy thanks for the recap genius

  • @GamerYouTubik

    @GamerYouTubik

    24 күн бұрын

    I do 😢

  • @SianaGearz

    @SianaGearz

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@Felttipfuzzywuzzyflyguy my Lenovo came without a disc.

  • @vinson3725
    @vinson37252 жыл бұрын

    Oh yea, lemme find the non-existent DVD that didn't came with my monitor :D (edit: found a new and better monitor)

  • @polytelus

    @polytelus

    2 жыл бұрын

    Even better Lemme use my laptop's DVD with my totally existent laptop dvd drive wait

  • @STRONGERTHANDEATH0.01

    @STRONGERTHANDEATH0.01

    2 жыл бұрын

    It probably did, we just bin that shite..

  • @jaden8923

    @jaden8923

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@polytelus laptops dont have seperate monitors

  • @kidofhell

    @kidofhell

    2 жыл бұрын

    RIP to all the modern pc case owners XD..... reason why I bought an external CD drive.... yea I hardly use it and all but still sometimes like to use CD's and since I would rather own a bunch of CD's than thumbdrives because I'm a PC person .

  • @valghyna7668

    @valghyna7668

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kidofhell been thinking of swapping my DVD to bluray for larger data storage. I lose thumb drives

  • @RomiBarcena
    @RomiBarcena2 жыл бұрын

    Some newly released monitors don't have CD installers included anymore.

  • @naththoau

    @naththoau

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes unfortunately that is a pity. Because it is missing something important to install.

  • @naththoau

    @naththoau

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Jakef100f my monitor had to be calibrated with i1 display pro same goes with tv to further correct it.

  • @ElectricityTaster

    @ElectricityTaster

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@xeonitas german detected.

  • @xeonitas

    @xeonitas

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ElectricityTasteryeah, what gave it away? My content or my spelling? if it was my spelling please tell me, i always want to improve my english

  • @ElectricityTaster

    @ElectricityTaster

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@xeonitas "ist" overwhelming should be is. Originale nichtskönner!

  • @noud95
    @noud952 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much. I've always had issues with my monitor regarding colour banding and I couldn't figure out how to fix it. But when I tried this video it was immediately fixed and my monitor looks so much better. I can't thank you enough!

  • @Canon1DMkII
    @Canon1DMkII11 ай бұрын

    This is easily the most concise and accurate description of color space and how to get it right on a monitor I have seen on KZread.

  • @skytechbits
    @skytechbits2 жыл бұрын

    I proudly carried those CRT monitors while walking up steps when I was a bit younger and smaller :) You did a good job explaining many important details here Joe. I think the big companies who are pushing people to create more videos, and to add sharp images/videos from content sites to them, will put another level of complexity to the color space for many companies overall as well.

  • @JeffBourke

    @JeffBourke

    Жыл бұрын

    CRT monitor also fits perfectly in the car seat and can wear a seat belt! Facts!

  • @romandoo
    @romandoo2 жыл бұрын

    Dude... I've been nonstop around PCs and technology for about 15 years now and this is the first time I've heard someone talking about this. Awesome video my man.

  • @Saturn2888
    @Saturn28882 жыл бұрын

    You are correct, Advanced Color is for HDR, but you _would_ want that if your monitor supports HDR; otherwise, you won't have an ICC profile when in HDR mode. Pretty sure you need a separate calibration under HDR to have the correct ICC profile for it, but I'm not sure. The difference between SDR and HDR modes is luminance. I think WCG (wide color gamut) is what your ICC profile manages in general, and it's good to calibrate in both conditions.

  • @TorutheRedFox

    @TorutheRedFox

    11 ай бұрын

    especially if you have an LCD since HDR mode means increased backlight brightness, which shifts gamma

  • @Vla3d
    @Vla3d2 жыл бұрын

    4:05 The exact moment when you can hear Theo SINGING

  • @thejanasilva2525

    @thejanasilva2525

    2 жыл бұрын

    You pay so much attention you must be really good at concentration 😂

  • @MrOoof

    @MrOoof

    2 жыл бұрын

    vibrato

  • @Vla3d

    @Vla3d

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thejanasilva2525 No, I had it playing in the background while I was busy with something and when I took a 10 second break just to gather my thoughts I heard that bit and I was like "Wait a sec...Rewind that..." so no, it all happened by a sheer coincidence. The universe just works like that - it'd be foolish to deny that there are materias and forces that are above us and beyond our current understanding, lol

  • @DanGmz

    @DanGmz

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Vla3d Thanks bro you made me laugh!! 🤣🤣

  • @gobinrajsharma35

    @gobinrajsharma35

    2 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @edwarddeaddead1128
    @edwarddeaddead11282 жыл бұрын

    Bruuuuh. The under-saturated look on another device after drawing something is so relatable. Thank you!

  • @darkhoodchief

    @darkhoodchief

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have the same problem that's why I transfer a copy of the image to another device to see what i need to change.

  • @MischieviousJirachi

    @MischieviousJirachi

    2 жыл бұрын

    What do you draw?

  • @EjayT06

    @EjayT06

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here when using Photoshop and doing graphic design

  • @MNoriio

    @MNoriio

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's super saturated for me :( My display makes the color more muted so when I view my art on other devices it looks like I just said 'hell yeah saturation'

  • @ThioJoe

    @ThioJoe

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you just want the image to look maximum saturated on any monitor (at the cost of being not fully accurate of what you saw), you can just ensure that it is NOT being saved with a tagged/embedded color profile. So perhaps check if maybe your image editor by default is embedding sRGB which could be the cause.

  • @stevenm3141
    @stevenm3141 Жыл бұрын

    Thiojoe very nice to finally have the correct information! For years now just couldn't get anywhere with this topic. So yes, people have been wrong for a long time about monitors.

  • @RiyardRamnath
    @RiyardRamnath2 жыл бұрын

    Such a good video. Thanks so much. I was having so much color problems with my new monitor and installing the icc fixed it so quickly.

  • @robertocmfgt73
    @robertocmfgt732 жыл бұрын

    Love the content. Where other tech tubers struggle with fresh content, you seem to find a way to give useful relevant information so thank you for that. We get better watching your videos, so keep it up!

  • @ablazedguy

    @ablazedguy

    Жыл бұрын

    Dude recycles ideas more than baby hippos recycle poop.

  • @yeahthatkornel

    @yeahthatkornel

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ablazedguy why are you here then?

  • @Kinqcush
    @Kinqcush2 жыл бұрын

    Finally hes back

  • @Adrien_broner

    @Adrien_broner

    2 жыл бұрын

    Best how to's on the whole damn internet!

  • @Kinqcush

    @Kinqcush

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Adrien_broner facts

  • @ottopenquist5545
    @ottopenquist5545 Жыл бұрын

    I noticed the change (for the better) as soon as I closed Color Management and returned to your video. Thank you.

  • @MisoSanSoup
    @MisoSanSoup Жыл бұрын

    I just got a new expensive drawing tablet and I was so bummed out with the colors. I couldn't fix them AT ALL because I couldn't find a detailed guide like this on how to install profiles. THANK YOU!

  • @noahwoodland1592
    @noahwoodland15922 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate that he speaks at the speed he does clearly and comprehensively. Other KZreadrs I have to speed 'em up to 1.25 or 1.5. He sounds like most people's 1.25x speeds :)

  • @noxious8

    @noxious8

    2 жыл бұрын

    Watched on 1.5 and saw that comment :D

  • @heliqs_

    @heliqs_

    2 жыл бұрын

    honestly i just watch at 2x speed and i cant go back to regular speed, its just so slow

  • @silver7788

    @silver7788

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@heliqs_ same

  • @FlameRat_YehLon
    @FlameRat_YehLon2 жыл бұрын

    And about Windows colour management. If the colour profile has colour correction, I find it much more reliable if you install DisplayCAL to use it's LUT loader which would auto reload the correction if it drops for some reason, even if you don't use it to generate the profile (and it's really often the correction would be dropped by Windows, weirdly). Though if you do have a colorimeter, even if you do use DisplayCAL to generate profile rather than the official tool, you should still install the official tool to get the reference file which it is said to allow better accuracy.

  • @ratone1983
    @ratone1983 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks ThioJoe! Your intro is a perfect TL;DR, very clear and concise, with chapter marks on the different topics and everything. In just a minute I had a laugh and I learned why the specific ICC file for my monitor is very useful and why I can live without it but I definitely would rather have it. I don't think my cheap monitor has full sRGB gamut, hah, but this is great info, thanks a lot!

  • @stevefoobar
    @stevefoobar Жыл бұрын

    Great overview. Nice job. I had forgotten much of this. Motivated me to re-calibrate my monitors.

  • @iswearitsartforsure8493
    @iswearitsartforsure84932 жыл бұрын

    Learned about it half a year ago when I began to use a second monitor. It´s so easy and so quick to do, but just because it already works when we plug it in everyone tends to ignore it.

  • @greenculturemedia
    @greenculturemedia2 жыл бұрын

    Joe your channel is why KZread was made. Knowledge and good contents I would have to pay some money for, so thank you for quaility Knowledge. Hope you win top youtube awards.

  • @greenculturemedia

    @greenculturemedia

    2 жыл бұрын

    @LJB018 that's true, but you can always modify what you subscribe for, that way you would be surprised by what pops on your recommendation. Thanks to @youtube, this is where I learnt how to be a - Graphics Designer - Video editor - Front End dev - WordPress dev - UI , UX , Figma designer - Wikipedia dev Enjoy music and football latest news. Thanks to them

  • @lemonadestandclips3349

    @lemonadestandclips3349

    2 жыл бұрын

    He used to make funny fake tech content unironically and youtube told him to stop making satire content cause people actually do it

  • @michaelmonstar4276

    @michaelmonstar4276

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lemonadestandclips3349 - I doubt "KZread told him", cause there are worse examples on KZread that keep going and get monetized and all.

  • @stevenlitvintchouk3131
    @stevenlitvintchouk31312 жыл бұрын

    In my experience, these manufacturer-supplied color profiles don't work all that well because of manufacturing differences in individual monitors of the same model of monitor. For example, just one of my Asus VS229 monitors had a significant greenish cast. Thus there is no substitute for a monitor calibration device.

  • @lystic9392
    @lystic9392 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I am using a 38GN950 from LG and I think this made a big difference! Before the ICC file the extreme saturation of reds on blue for instance, would even make it difficult to see where the red stopped and the blue began (the border would kind of swim around) and that's gone now.

  • @Attackid
    @Attackid2 жыл бұрын

    This is really well researched, great job! One thing you missed, is some monitors have different colorspaces in the OSD menu and that needs to align with your icc profile.

  • @lolerie

    @lolerie

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ideally only the auto HW on display is there, like on LG C9 :) 3DLUT inside is calibratable.

  • @jasonjtg21
    @jasonjtg212 жыл бұрын

    Wow this is deep! It answered a question I have had though. I had no idea how to install the Adobe color profile. Thank you for showing how to do this.

  • @IIMANIXII
    @IIMANIXII2 жыл бұрын

    I just did it - got it from display lag and now used their setup guide for my monitor plus the ICC profile thanks - Subbed... I will expect less headaches based on how much dimmer it is - :)

  • @MatchaCutie14
    @MatchaCutie142 жыл бұрын

    hey theo, thank you for the useful insight!! when I get a desktop, I will definitely be downloading the icc files for my monitor, thanks!

  • @michaelthompson9798
    @michaelthompson97982 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely awesome video. I never installed any monitor software and I just did after watching your segment, my current Alienware 3420DW has a very colour gamut 138% sRGB mode, in addition to a high DCP3 colour gamut….after installing the software I noticed my web browsing has become slightly more vibrant and some colours pop more…..doing my home photo’s with Adobe software…..is day and night difference. What I see and print is more accurate and less oversaturated in areas. Great video ThioJoe 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥳🎉👍

  • @lolerie

    @lolerie

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually it should pop less. Browsers most CSS stuff is sRGB only.

  • @KurojakiKaoru
    @KurojakiKaoru2 жыл бұрын

    Even though I may be using my monitor "wrong", I personally hate how certain colors look with the provided color profile (for example, it makes blues look like purple) so I'm sticking with sRGB anyways. Although that's only with the current Samsung CRG5 I'm using so other monitors may look better with their provided color profiles.

  • @supersican25

    @supersican25

    Жыл бұрын

    mine too

  • @ExtraterrestrialIntelligence
    @ExtraterrestrialIntelligence5 ай бұрын

    Wow been using my monitor for a long time not knowing this! Just installed the ICC profile and the colors look way better, especially in this KZread video! Thanks, man!!!

  • @natbarmore
    @natbarmore2 жыл бұрын

    Good overview of color management profiles, but there are two more layers to this. Some monitors have alternative display modes that you'll want to make sure are off while you're setting things up, or when you need color accuracy. Like, my work monitor has a "low blue-light" mode. More importantly, the display profile is, as you say, for the model, not for your individual monitor. So if you can see the differences , you should also use the monitor calibration built into Windows 10, /after/ you've installed the correct ICC, to fine-tune your picture. It's only as good as your eyes are, but since you can only look at your display with your eyes, it should still be an improvement. With my work computer, before calibration one monitor had a distinctly rose cast and the other a distinctly greenish cast, and both of them lost low-contrast details (like the button shading on the Ribbon in MSOffice, or which item you have selected on a drop down menu) unless you turned the monitors up to blinding. (Yes, the monitor's contrast was maxed out.) Now that I've calibrated them, I can keep that at a much more sensible 30% brightness, have consistent color, and can actually see everything.

  • @gammaboost

    @gammaboost

    6 ай бұрын

    Usually monitors should be set to 80% contrast, since above that might lose some accuracy and detail and might have a slightly different colour tint. It also gives some space for Overdrive to work correctly.

  • @nischaln.i.c
    @nischaln.i.c2 жыл бұрын

    *I really love thiojoe videos it will be very informative and interesting to watch till the end after clicking it and I learn something new by watching Joe's videos!!!!!* ❤️🤩

  • @nischaln.i.c

    @nischaln.i.c

    2 жыл бұрын

    *I never thought you would heart my comment by making my day that I got a heart from one of my favourite youtuber. That means a lot Sir!!!!!!* ❤️

  • @carecoable
    @carecoable2 жыл бұрын

    Curious thing is that, now that I built my first PC, I got into icc profiles a week or two before this video, and now ThioJoe drops this video. Pretty curious, huh? It's nice that more people know about icc profiles and get a chance to have a better color experience. Thanks!

  • @tlavkswk2524
    @tlavkswk2524 Жыл бұрын

    Very good explanation! Thank you so much!!! I was having issues with color management and your video helped me a lot.

  • @jokubasvaicius
    @jokubasvaicius2 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are inspiring and so positive. I feel better after watching them. I always learn something new and I feel smarter. Thank you!

  • @kevinhawthorne5257
    @kevinhawthorne52572 жыл бұрын

    Thank You for all of your videos that you did. I am enjoying all of them

  • @battleshockYT
    @battleshockYT2 жыл бұрын

    Very useful video ThioJoe 😎😎😎

  • @Wooskii1
    @Wooskii12 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video, exactly what I needed to learn. I was just going to use the RGB clamp after learning about it an hour ago, but I'll give this a shot. Thanks 👍

  • @freequest
    @freequest2 жыл бұрын

    Made a big difference went through the inbuilt colour calibration thing kind of works, but digging up the ICM profile and putting that on stuff looks far better now.

  • @Dreadknight_Gaming
    @Dreadknight_Gaming2 жыл бұрын

    Whenever I already know Joe's content I'm like: "Sometimes my genius is... it's almost frightening."~Top Gear.

  • @pyp2205
    @pyp22052 жыл бұрын

    Well this will come in handy when I'll be getting my own desktop computer, with multiple operating systems.

  • @pyp2205

    @pyp2205

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Prit Kumar Of course I will have it in it. I can't just use windows all the time. I like to switch between Windows and Linux, now that I made a bootable usb drive.

  • @theftking
    @theftking Жыл бұрын

    It's fine; few have monitors that even cover sRGB that well.

  • @roadhouseguy
    @roadhouseguy2 жыл бұрын

    Yes finally someone to explain this properly. I’ve been using the ICC profiles for my monitors for 20 years.

  • @windowsxpprofessional
    @windowsxpprofessional2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for the info , I was setting my dual display today on my laptop and desktop

  • @gulfELAl9155

    @gulfELAl9155

    2 жыл бұрын

    Shadow: a dark area or shape produced by a body coming between rays of light and a surface.

  • @windowsxpprofessional

    @windowsxpprofessional

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gulfELAl9155 WTF 😒??

  • @WoolEndy

    @WoolEndy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@windowsxpprofessional they’re posting definitions of random things if you look at their comment history

  • @windowsxpprofessional

    @windowsxpprofessional

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@WoolEndy yeah 😂

  • @NightcoreChase
    @NightcoreChase2 жыл бұрын

    before I watch this video, just wanted to let you know that my monitor is upside down, with inverted colors, flashing ridiculously fast and the power isn't plugged in. When I tried to call the manufacture, they said to insert the floppy disk for the serial number and I just cant boot into my pc because my windows is expired and its asking to verify my credit card with PayPal to continue so i'm stuck help

  • @GlitchBomb

    @GlitchBomb

    2 жыл бұрын

    Spray it with WD-40

  • @reinhardr2161

    @reinhardr2161

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like you need to shampoo it and wash its a little dirty, fixed it for me.

  • @creekboi7

    @creekboi7

    2 жыл бұрын

    you're low on wiper fluid

  • @Sam3532

    @Sam3532

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@creekboi7 blinker fluid*

  • @mikopolar9585

    @mikopolar9585

    2 жыл бұрын

    Who the F still uses Floppy disk in 2021?

  • @oktc68
    @oktc682 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Thio, another video that improves my computing experience. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @harrym8556
    @harrym85562 жыл бұрын

    OMG Windows 11 color profiles were not working at all, despite using a calibrator, and it was driving me crazy, until I went into that setting and checked "use Windows display calibration". Thank you! I could not use my I could not use my $5000 Sony OLED monitor to do any work for weeks until I found this video!

  • @kushsingh5254
    @kushsingh52542 жыл бұрын

    You always amaze me man !!!

  • @ao_qd
    @ao_qd2 жыл бұрын

    I've noticed so many issues with the new Windows Photo app ever since Win10 came out. A lot has been fixed, but I'm confused why the color issue still hasn't been fixed...after all these years!!

  • @wayner8512
    @wayner85122 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this. I also changed the monitor driver from the generic PnP to my LG model in Device Manager.

  • @ik1xpv
    @ik1xpv Жыл бұрын

    Following your instruction I improved my old monitor look. Thanks!

  • @JustinCarberry
    @JustinCarberry2 жыл бұрын

    I genuinely thought the "drivers" that came with monitors was silly and useless. Booyyyy I was ignorant. This was enlightening. Thank you!

  • @wojtekpolska1013

    @wojtekpolska1013

    2 жыл бұрын

    it should be more apparent that you should use them. Windows on default uses some generic settings/drivers, probably so you can actually install the proper profile (you need to see what is happening on the computer, to install drivers) so most people who dont install monitor drivers, just see these standard generic windows drivers, that are there just so your monitor can work at all

  • @IAMNOTRANA
    @IAMNOTRANA2 жыл бұрын

    I like how this channel went from absolute troll to what it is today and actually providing some detailed information to general audience.

  • @oo0024

    @oo0024

    Жыл бұрын

    I was thinking that lmao this guy made a career chatting shit but in an entertaining way lol

  • @noheader

    @noheader

    Жыл бұрын

    ?????? troll? Even Linus says Thio is brighter than him. I can't remember not learning from Thio.

  • @Ymir-

    @Ymir-

    Жыл бұрын

    @@noheader old theo (2007 i thnk) was a troll but now he is more like a tech tips ofc its because now days those kind of channels got nuked by ty lol

  • @theendoftheline

    @theendoftheline

    11 ай бұрын

    @@noheader He literally had troll videos saying bs where he reverses at the end with a gotchya

  • @theendoftheline

    @theendoftheline

    11 ай бұрын

    @@noheader The thing with Thio is he learns things that arent even true much of the time. Thats how much he knows.

  • @MLMariss
    @MLMariss2 жыл бұрын

    I hate how good your videos are! Not only production but also the information and topics! Damn you good! :D

  • @trankehoangnam9168
    @trankehoangnam91682 жыл бұрын

    Bro. You are a hero. I don't know why KZread recommend me this video but it it just randomly help me so much.God damn, I can notice the different after installing the profile and driver for my AOC C24G1 monitor. Thank you so much bro

  • @nickwallette6201
    @nickwallette6201 Жыл бұрын

    This is one of those areas of computing that is shrouded in so much mystery because it is deeply technical and has never really been translated to normal users. Thanks for clearing some of the fog. Luckily the Mac color dialog is waaaaay more straight-forward. :-) Also: Why is this data not embedded somewhere that EDID can get to it? What's a 1MB ROM chip cost now??

  • @lurkerrekrul
    @lurkerrekrul Жыл бұрын

    When I got my first CRT VGA monitor many years ago, it came with a special calibration program and a vinyl rectangle that you were supposed to stick on the screen. The program would then display different images and you were supposed to click on the square that most closely matched the vinyl piece. After you were done, your monitor was supposedly perfectly calibrated. The only problem was that the image was way too dark. Dark areas of photos appeared black, I couldn't see what I was doing in dimly lit areas of games, I couldn't tell most color gradients apart, etc. The last monitor that I actually bought, which was also a CRT, didn't come with any disk. Since then, I've gotten my monitors free from the trash. Right now, I'm using a 19" Dell 4:3 LCD display. I have larger ones, 16:9 ones, but this is what I'm used to. In any case, I have an OLD computer which didn't come with color management software built into Windows and Microsoft has long since scrubbed any trace of it from their site in their quest to pretend that old versions of Windows never existed.

  • @justchris245
    @justchris2452 жыл бұрын

    This is packed with a tone of information! Greate Job! Only thing i am missing are the exact setting on the display Menu itself to match the Win 10 setting. This is very different from display to display . For my LG 38GN950 i have to setup the "sRGB Profile" to have it working. All other Profiles are over saturated.

  • @alphaforce6998
    @alphaforce69985 ай бұрын

    If you were using sRGB you weren't doing it wrong because the point of color management is to ensure that printed output matches on-screen display as much as possible. You wouldn't be embedding your monitor-specific ICC profile to images you intend to share because on all screens other than yours the colors would be way off. If you pay close attention to the "color management" right around 16:05 settings you will see that windows defaults to sRGB for all instances where there is no embedded profile (and the program supports color management) or where the program doesn't support color management. The other thing that this long video doesn't mention is ensuring that your monitor is connected by DisplayPort (at least) and that your video card supports 10-bit per channel color. Not all video cards will support 10bpc color, most only do 8bpc. This setting is changed in your driver settings for your particular video card/GPU. Without 10bpc enabled your monitor won't be allowed to display more colors even if it supports them.

  • @haies09

    @haies09

    5 ай бұрын

    Nicely done 😊

  • @thecentralscrutinizerr
    @thecentralscrutinizerr Жыл бұрын

    Now that you've explained color profiles, how about how to sync these profiles to your printer so that your printer is printing what you are seeing on your monitor. That's the most overlooked feature of having a PC and printer.

  • @IceBlueLugia

    @IceBlueLugia

    7 ай бұрын

    Could you explain it? Can’t find a decent guide

  • @brownsterring9259

    @brownsterring9259

    6 ай бұрын

    People still use printers?

  • @JJFX-

    @JJFX-

    5 ай бұрын

    @@brownsterring9259 Aside from the obvious, people who understand not having physical copies of important information is a disaster waiting to happen.

  • @MaximusAdonicus

    @MaximusAdonicus

    5 ай бұрын

    @@brownsterring9259 Well, how the hell are u gonna print something out if u don't have a printer?!

  • @Ladius
    @Ladius2 жыл бұрын

    this video was amazing, i didn't have idea about the cd, i use a icc profile that i found on internet and now everything looks better

  • @q.scherer3759
    @q.scherer3759 Жыл бұрын

    I have now installed the Profile and the difference is so amazing! Thanks for this tip!😍

  • @orangeguac1612
    @orangeguac16122 жыл бұрын

    @ThioJoe - Great vid, thanks. One question: When you selected the Advanced tab it displays sRGB as the Device Profile, does this need to be changed to the profile you added?

  • @ThioJoe

    @ThioJoe

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nah that's the system default which we override with the user settings.

  • @BlenderRookie
    @BlenderRookie2 жыл бұрын

    I downloaded the ICC file from the manufacturer and as soon as I applied it, the look of the monitor changed. But it was slight.

  • @lolerie

    @lolerie

    2 жыл бұрын

    You should be using MacOS cause that does not happen on Windows.

  • @household_cracker
    @household_cracker2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I really hate the new photo viewer, but I needed to use it just infrequently enough not to bother figuring out how to change it, or install 3rd pary one.

  • @ypxl2415
    @ypxl2415 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much, you helped me solve my problem with dark image in Photoshop

  • @___Neopolitan
    @___Neopolitan2 жыл бұрын

    NOTE: As of Firefox 89, Firefox does NOT need to be configured as it reads from the operating system automatically.

  • @Dogelition
    @Dogelition2 жыл бұрын

    Chrome actually treats untagged content as sRGB by default, so everything will be color managed without having to change any extra settings. Firefox doesn't do this, but you can change a setting in about:config to get the same behavior.

  • @russianyoutube

    @russianyoutube

    2 жыл бұрын

    about://config*

  • @zwz.zdenek

    @zwz.zdenek

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@russianyoutube It's about:config. And Chrome was unable to do this for years making Firefox (after the tweak) the only fully color-managed browser.

  • @mycelia_ow

    @mycelia_ow

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@russianyoutube that gives me an invalid URL error, lol who told you that was correct? it's not lol

  • @Dwarrelpoot

    @Dwarrelpoot

    9 ай бұрын

    Chrome still shows me oversaturated colours though. Having the icm installed or not does not make a single difference. I now use novideo srgb clamp which works fine. It can also use the manufacture icm file to base the clamp on instead of edid values and if I do that it sticks to P3 on srgb mode :\

  • @ernestpellicciotti2082
    @ernestpellicciotti20822 жыл бұрын

    I just spent 12 hours messing with front porches and back porches and pixel clocks to get my old tv right... None of d info was easy to find when i am trying but then this video pops up after I've given up... Ty

  • @RickMyBalls
    @RickMyBalls Жыл бұрын

    Great content my man; you always manage to teach me something new about windows and i'm a veteran.

  • @judenihal
    @judenihal3 ай бұрын

    95 percent of the time you don't need them

  • @queenofstamford3141

    @queenofstamford3141

    Ай бұрын

    You need them every day, every minute!

  • @harshkhanna1628
    @harshkhanna16282 жыл бұрын

    even when I have no program running in the foreground, then also my laptop uses more than 50 % memory.I have 8GB RAM . Is it okay?

  • @art_nich

    @art_nich

    2 жыл бұрын

    No. Get atleast 16GB

  • @GamrLance

    @GamrLance

    2 жыл бұрын

    we have the same thing, i have 55% memory even without any apps running

  • @russianyoutube

    @russianyoutube

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me with 16GB: I don't care about those small things

  • @erik1836
    @erik18362 жыл бұрын

    This is a very well organized and helpful video. I am about to get myself a high end monitor - I work with giclee fine art printing of my photography and that of the artists I represent; two painters and one of other photographer besides myself. At the same time, I will be investing in a kick ass computer but not before DDR5 is more commonly available than it is at present. Never be a first adopter is my motto. Let the impatient suffer the pains of a manufacturer's learning curve. My question is, is if you were in the market for the best monitor for fine are print production, what would you recommend? Thank you in advance for your consideration of my question.

  • @iandelgado33
    @iandelgado33 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this info, i see the difference of color when i use the color profile on my monitor now. You earned a subscribe here... 👍👍👍

  • @raduandreiq
    @raduandreiq2 жыл бұрын

    Does the information in this video also apply to the laptop's own monitor (the built-in one) ???

  • @danirde

    @danirde

    2 жыл бұрын

    Of course - it's a display as well.

  • @lolerie

    @lolerie

    2 жыл бұрын

    Even more so. Like Apple's.

  • @DUMPSTERDIVINGADELAIDE
    @DUMPSTERDIVINGADELAIDE2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Theo, love your videos, Cheers from Australia.. 🌏🙂

  • @coisasnatv
    @coisasnatv Жыл бұрын

    This video is kind of misleading, if your monitor has a gamut of 99% sRGB (I have a LG 29WK600) and nothing else, the profile you should use is in fact sRGB or the one provided by your monitor. Color profiles are unique, to have yours, you need to have some advanced tools to calibrate your monitor and get a profile unique to your monitor, there's no such a thing to download someone's else profile. Another thing to pay special attention, whatever you do in whatever software you have to edit a photo, you *ALWAYS* export in sRGB. The exact same applies if you monitor can handle different color profiles, always export in sRGB.

  • @ijustlovebritcoms
    @ijustlovebritcoms Жыл бұрын

    Hi, Thank you for this enlightening video! I use an LG monitor, LG 32UL500-W to be exact, not the greatest but not bad either. White is actually a tiny bit grayish, but reviews indicate that this is a common issue. I’ve lived with that… The more important problem is how my images now seem a bit pale and flat online even though they look perfect in my graphic software (I am a photographer and digital artist). This started after I tried calibrating my monitor in a graphic art program, which has limited settings. At the same time I tweaked my NVIDIA settings, also rather limited. Nothing has really helped. I don’t understand why my work looks good in my art software but lackluster online? It seems if it were a monitor problem, my work would look bad before ever being uploaded online. I know zero about color management but I’m trying to learn…

  • @JohnSmith-xq1pz
    @JohnSmith-xq1pz2 жыл бұрын

    It's good to know just how many thing's I'm using wrong on my computer 😉

  • @windowsxpprofessional

    @windowsxpprofessional

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do you play cr?

  • @pyp2205

    @pyp2205

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah this will be useful, for when I'll be making my own desktop computer with Windows and Linux on it.

  • @pythondrink

    @pythondrink

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@windowsxpprofessional u a Windows XP professionals? What's cr?

  • @JohnSmith-xq1pz

    @JohnSmith-xq1pz

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pyp2205 while the file wasn't shipped with my Asus MX279 monitors it was a download from the Asus site. Can confirm it makes a difference

  • @JohnSmith-xq1pz

    @JohnSmith-xq1pz

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@windowsxpprofessional **activates the trap card Wannacry** 😜

  • @LeonAlkoholik67
    @LeonAlkoholik672 жыл бұрын

    When I overclocked my screen in the Nvidia Control Panel, the colors of my screen automatically seemed "stronger" than before and I actually prefer that.

  • @privettoli

    @privettoli

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep, I also got HDR10 and 700hz boost. It's not easy to find that in Nvidia Control Panel ofc.

  • @lolerie

    @lolerie

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@privettoli because there is no HDR10 in Nvidia control panel.

  • @888BRAK
    @888BRAK5 ай бұрын

    Showing the reset monitor to default settings on the monitor before applying ICM would benefit this video. Thank You.

  • @lgphtgrphy137
    @lgphtgrphy137 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for the incredible video dude. Super helpful and digestable.

  • @HeroxGamingOffical
    @HeroxGamingOffical2 жыл бұрын

    I love it when the notification show's up "someone" liked your comment and you have a new subscriber""......🥺🥺

  • @Ryuzaki2100

    @Ryuzaki2100

    2 жыл бұрын

    And I hate spammers like you

  • @windowsxpprofessional

    @windowsxpprofessional

    2 жыл бұрын

    And I hate you

  • @pythondrink

    @pythondrink

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sthu 😂

  • @pessoaanonima6345
    @pessoaanonima63452 жыл бұрын

    I use a tv as a monitor, can I find this file somewhere?

  • @ericbleau2684
    @ericbleau2684 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. The color on my new monitor was driving me crazy. Thanks to this video, I have it looking really good.

  • @deiwar2994
    @deiwar29942 жыл бұрын

    Quite insightful, never knew any of this! I cannot find my BenQ G2400W anywhere; however. Thanks for this. I will check this when I upgrade later

  • @organekd
    @organekd2 жыл бұрын

    Fun is, when the manufacturer/model info is unknown.

  • @bgtubber

    @bgtubber

    2 жыл бұрын

    This info can be usually found in the monitor's menu.

  • @Necdasar

    @Necdasar

    2 жыл бұрын

    if i understand correctly, that's probably cause you didn't install monitor drivers.

  • @organekd

    @organekd

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Necdasar It was a no-name/none-branded monitor, originally purchased for testing of old VGA DOS machines. I got it used from a computer store that went out of business. It didn't come with drivers and didn't need them for DOS. No FCC info, or anything. The OSD chip must be defective as I've never been able to access a menu. For my purposes though, it works, I put a comment in about how fun it can be when the manufacturer and model number is unknown. It used to be that monitors would identify themselves in Windows. It would be nice if they did that again.

  • @Box223
    @Box2232 жыл бұрын

    I never require specific colors.

  • @Ploskkky
    @Ploskkky2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you explained this. I am by no means a noob, but this windows color management software must be some of the most ridiculously convoluted crap I ever tried to use. These windows devs really do not understand windows users. Your video was a great help! Many thanks!

  • @Turvok
    @Turvok Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Thanks for this. It's all stuff I didn't know how to do. I had a loose understanding it was there but it's not something I've ever done or knew how to do. Doing this for my new monitor when it shows up this week. (32gp850)

  • @patrickmusson4571
    @patrickmusson45712 жыл бұрын

    My PC is connected to my 55" 4K TV along with my game consoles.

  • @ThioJoe

    @ThioJoe

    2 жыл бұрын

    Should still work

  • @patrickmusson4571

    @patrickmusson4571

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ThioJoe Thanks, I'll give it a try.

  • @TryTane
    @TryTane2 жыл бұрын

    When I installed the profile for my secondary monitor, the colors shifted. But I was happy since the white are now white. So thank you random redditor that I gave all my faith in

  • @1ndictus445

    @1ndictus445

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can you give a link to the icc profile in question? I wanna try it out

  • @wojtekpolska1013

    @wojtekpolska1013

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@1ndictus445 i doubt you have the exact same monitor as this person if you watched the video, you would know that these icc profiles are made especially for specific monitors, so if you dont have the **exact** same model of a monitor, it will maybe even look worse

  • @1ndictus445

    @1ndictus445

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@wojtekpolska1013 I see

  • @easyway5482
    @easyway54826 ай бұрын

    for me it changed before my eyes now the colors are amazing ... thank you very much

  • @ayby17
    @ayby172 жыл бұрын

    Wow. What a great and useful video I randomly got recommended. Thank you! This is what I was missing after buying expensive new monitors for color grading. And for years I was bugged because I couldn't find the old Windows photo viewer application. Thank you very much!

  • @Supernova094
    @Supernova0942 жыл бұрын

    Imagine still having a disk or dvd drive on your pc or laptop.

  • @slim_2280

    @slim_2280

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have one on my first ever gaming build, back in 2013. I use it for making MP4's and MP3's for my own viewing and listening pleasure. That computer cannot run the latest games, but sure is good for photography and video. I'm just about to move my Windows install over to my other more modern with the same specs of ASROCK B450M Pro4 with RYZEN 2600 6 core 12 threads on a NVIDIA 1660 Card of the computer I am using now. I have a 850Watt power supply to install today into the other one. This will save dual booting Windows with Linux, Linux being my main go to OS, Windows used for gaming the latest Triple A games. Keeping both separate makes sense, as both would benefit having their own space. I use ICY Dock which can mount SSD's at the front of the computer, meaning I can pull out Windows and put it into my other build, without the hassle of reinstalling. I feel that at the moment Proton is not quite there yet for Windows games in Linux, still loads of mucking around with code to get games to run. I'm hoping that by 2025 when Windows 10 is no more, that Proton will be sorted out to play the latest games out of the bag, with no mention of tweaking or mucking around with code to get the game to work.

  • @MrTaylork1

    @MrTaylork1

    2 жыл бұрын

    So true

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