I would be streaming, but I got caught up in the NUCLEAR DRAMA about the Creator Server thing.

@Tyu___

3 ай бұрын

Take your time, and take the most logical path. We trust your decision ❤

@user-vk4gm2qe3c

3 ай бұрын

time to cancel all the CC with access 💪❤‍🔥

@mellowmoodify

3 ай бұрын

Ill be actively avoiding shills. Their opinions cannont be trusted.

@kdz9581

3 ай бұрын

You forgot to place the link in the top corner. 0:30

@TokitoRen5633

3 ай бұрын

if your jingliu or acheron cant do 400 k to 600 k dmg in 1 hit then no they aint beating my dhil e2 so they arent the best dmg dealers thats just my opinion

blud forgot about aventurine 💀

@Rob.N.

3 ай бұрын

Nobody is talking about him and it's honestly irking me a little bit.

@WestProZ17

3 ай бұрын

@@Rob.N. He looking like to be top 2 sustain in the game. I feel like everyone just keeps hyping up Acheron when in reality Aventurine is just as broken if not more.

@timmynotjerry

3 ай бұрын

@@WestProZ17that’s what happens when you have the coolest ult anim in the game

@timmynotjerry

3 ай бұрын

he would be in trouble if he did so

@myztain3161

3 ай бұрын

Refresh shield every follow up atk its just too good for me, so yeah ill going to pulling aventurin

The Aventurine slander is crazy!

@Krugmatik

3 ай бұрын

aventurine is useless, what's my blade gonna do with a pesky shield? couldn't think of a worse unit!!! SKIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP.

@Entity000wastaken

3 ай бұрын

@@Krugmatik useless for you but it’s useful for more people which obviously makes it more valuable than your opinion

@albiflora

3 ай бұрын

​@@Entity000wastakenI believe that man was sarcastic...

@winstonjohngutual2318

3 ай бұрын

@@Krugmatik acheron is useless, what's my account gonna do with a pesky dps who's gonna get powercrept in the future? couldn't think of a worse unit!!! SKIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP.

@Entity000wastaken

3 ай бұрын

@@albifloraoh if so then my bad, if not then I stand by my words

Luocha also removes buffs with his ultimate like the revive buff on enemies

@B_Kaizo

3 ай бұрын

ngl those enemies were the only reason I pulled luocha

@MNiTFTW

3 ай бұрын

@@B_Kaizo All according to MHY's plans. Though his debuff strip on ult is nice for enemies who have tankbusters that buff before immediately attacking.

As someone who owns all of the limited sustain characters, and uses them all frequently, just pick whichever one you like. There isn't a huge margin between them, but there is quite a margin between the limited sustain units and the four star options. If I had to choose one of them, from a pure use case scenario, I'd recommend Fu Xuan. Any of them will be enough for MoC and PF, but if you're thinking about running high Conundrum SU then you'll have a hard time without damage mitigation. Luocha and Huohou can't do anything if your teams gets one-shot by a fat robot stomp.

@tylerdrummond4078

3 ай бұрын

I have HuoHuo and am getting Fu Xuan when she comes back, and between Luocha and Aventurine I’m gonna get Luocha just cuz I prefer his style, and like the way he’ll work with the teams I wanna use both now and long term.

@czardc

3 ай бұрын

THIS. Fu Xuan performs amazingly in every endgame content available, the dmg reduction she provides to the team is insane and one of her traces makes each character of your team negate one cc (negative effect) each time she casts her skill. She's still the best sustain character imo

@EatMyVlogs

3 ай бұрын

Fu is the saving grace of my mono quantum setup. With her, SW, Seele and Sparkle I am essentially invincible

@Papopip

3 ай бұрын

There is a massive difference between 4 star sustains and those from the limited banners, pretty much any sustain that isnt from the limited other than geopard and welt in some cases make the game sweaty as fuck whereas the game goes on easy mode when you use the limited banner counterparts

@Helperishere

3 ай бұрын

​@@tylerdrummond4078 Luocha might be good in the future with Robin as I believe she will be HEAVILY sp negative

Luocha has a cleanse what are you talking about? He also has AOE buff removal. Which works for both reviving enemies and enemies with big windups where they buff themselves before they hit. He's probably the best general use healer we have in the game. Skill point positive, clutch healing of turn, cleanse, and buff removal.

@sleepicat

3 ай бұрын

Imma be the real, the buff removal part of his kit basically got powercrept out of relevance by hoyo making all the new bosses have unremoveable buffs.

@MNiTFTW

3 ай бұрын

Also braindead easy to play. Which, I know, "skill issue", but having to only have to worry about 3 units > rotations for 4 (and the variations that might come w/ that) is insane. I feel like people are missing the point of his design because he's literally meant to be "The most healer healer of all time." His entire role isn't to offer more DPS or w/e (outside of letting everyone skill more because of his free SP), but to cover everything a healer needs and cover it SUPER well.

@yanuwwuu

3 ай бұрын

And he also shreds Imaginary toughness in AoE which not many ppl talk about even though it's actually quite insane

@ravenous3424

3 ай бұрын

@MNiTFTW I mean yeah that's why I'm getting him. My account has no built healers and sure I have blade but I cba build lynx, I want something comfortable and simple so I will get luocha.

@linuxramblingproductions8554

2 ай бұрын

No he kinda fell off hard a lot of bosses have unremovable debuffs so its rarely if ever useful now and huohuo is better 90% of the time

As someone who got Kafka / BS team and no ice dps I will definitely go with Jingliu. She does well with the Simulated Universe LC and I rather pull for 2 characters than pull for Acheron and her LC

Luocha's buff removal is kind of clutch at times. By no means is that the reason why you should roll for him over somebody like Aventurine, but I'd be lying if I didn't say it's nice to have. Anyway, people just roll for who you want. Iyo is right in a sense that the meta is steering you towards the new characters, but at the same time, me using the revamp of the ancient hyper carry Seele team still clears MOC 12 pretty comfortably. Hell, Seele helped me clear the Follow Up focused Pure Fiction. So really you can do what you want man. Take what the youtubers say as advice but don't treat it like it's the gospel unless you really want to.

@aryosheva8204

3 ай бұрын

luocha aoe buff dispel only clutch for the reviving minion that not summoned from marra struck commander which is rare in moc. if you are fighting the mara struck commander, just use pela and dispel his buff and use brute force to kill the commander. those summons will die eventualy.

@Blaze0070

3 ай бұрын

See that's the thing. Luocha is so comfortable, in requiring no skill to Pilot. Yes, HH is better since she provides more. However, I've died multiple times since I made a mistake managing rotations with HH. Luocha, not quite. Now, Fuxuan is a different beast due to requiring no skill while being a semi Harmony.

@ch1dd

3 ай бұрын

It actually IS a reason to pull for him, because without that you're stuck with bringing Pela/Luka to dispell any time there's a Shapeshifter on the floor. Makes for much more flexible teambuilding to have him.

@Krugmatik

3 ай бұрын

luocha is god tier I'm a blade main and luocha is the only unit in the game that stops blade from killing himself off the rip on 136/134 blade/bronya setup outside of E6 and E4.

@mahimraihan2235

3 ай бұрын

no need to bring dispel.I always break with ruan and jingliu and next turn thry are dead anyways.And if u are 3 starring moc 12 I think ur dps should be able to kill that with ult and skill or whatever dmg before he takes his healing turn or how u gonna takle sam, unto death and swarm

Of course you shouldn't count on this, but Acheron's first rerun will probably be much sooner than a year. A majority of the limited five stars in HSR have had their first rerun four patches after release (Luocha, JY, and FX were the exceptions so far). Also, even though Raiden Shogun reruns annually in Genshin now, her first rerun was four patches after her release. So while Jingliu might not come back again for another year after this rerun, Acheron will likely be back around 2.5.

Waiting for that aventurine video, SO EXCITED!

The biggest curse of someone who came into the game in 1.6 lured by the free Ratio is that now it feels like it would be foolish not to prioritize building a team around him and get aventurine and wait for topaz and then a harmony. But Acheron looks very cool and everyone interested in the game heard about Jingliu....2.1 could have been worse choice wise only if they put Fu Xuan there because it would have meant automatically go for her.

@aryosheva8204

3 ай бұрын

bro, imagine if they put fu xuan instead of luocha. the banner will be like: The strongest dps in history vs the strongest dps of today, and The strongest perservation in history vs the strongest perservation of today xD

@wtchzack3317

3 ай бұрын

I joined in 1.6. I'm just lost. I want Acheron but only have Pela and E5 Guinaifen. But I could just get Aventurine and sort myself out on 1 of 2 sustainers I need for endgame. I'm currently leaning towards pulling Adventurine. But I only have 1 real dps in Ratio and currently coping with QQ

@vetreas366

3 ай бұрын

​@@wtchzack3317 Pela and Guinaifen are enough for Acheron to work, but if we're talking purely about building meta teams, a sustain would be what you need more than a DPS. That's a general point, not just because you have Ratio. Sustains and supports are by far the more valuable pulls. With that said, if you really want Acheron, you can just pull for her and make do with the sustains that are available right now. Preservation TB is still decent and works well with Acheron plus Fu Xuan will get a re-run sooner rather than later so you can pull for her then. Note that Acheron is a really good choice especially if you don't have Bronya, Ruan Mei, Tingyun and/or Sparkle as she doesn't need Harmony units to do her stuff, but she does really want one of like two specific Light Cones to pull off big numbers. It kinda depends on what you have, what you want and making a choice you won't regret. Acheron will rerun later as well, but who knows who she's going to come with so you might be forced into making another hard choice later down the line. Another hard choice is going to be coming in 2.2 where we have Robin who is Harmony, aka the most broken Path in the game so she's very likely to be an extremely valuable pull. I personally (as in: I have not checked any "dreams" on this so this is pure speculation) feel that Fu Xuan will be rerun in 2.2 as well, for players who didn't get Aventurine to have a chance to pull for another sustain. Might not happen, but it's what I'd do in these circumstances. So hard choices all around. Just take your time to think about things and decide what's more important. Despite the title of the video, you can't brick your account by pulling for a limited unit as none of them are "bad" they may just not be what you need right now. At worst you'll just delay your ability to move into more difficult content like higher level MoC or PF but there is always time to fix a bad choice. As an example, I lost my 50-50 for Luocha and had to use Bailu who is also decent, but since Luocha had just come out, a lot of the content was tuned for him. Bailu has a harder time keeping stuff alive too so that was a big miss. When Huohuo came out, I pulled Bailu again, because that's just how I roll, but I ultimately managed to get Huohuo and she's been amazing to the point that I don't need Luocha anymore. So missing out on the meta character didn't stop me from ultimately fixing the something that was lacking on my account later on. Just follow Kafka's advice and when time comes to make a choice, make one that you know you won't regret. Or Silver Wolf's and don't think about it, just pull. I dunno, whatever works for you.

@troy2223

3 ай бұрын

​@@wtchzack3317my QQ can straight up brute force through the last and curent moc 12( yes both have no quantum weakness), she's just so damn strong with sparkle. Same with my jingliu+bronya+ruan mei, if i don't get oneshot there's no dps check that can stop me.

i swear, no other HSR CC is competing with this man, for saying the most rocks for brains shit lmao

@stylerxo3654

3 ай бұрын

So true lmao. These Acheron videos have been wild.

Hey thanks for your vids man!! Appreciate you putting in the time.

Awesome stuff man I'm excited for Acheron to start building a fun team

I think Acheron is really cool (she’s even won me over) and I have all of the nihility characters you need for a good team. But I’m not pulling her lightcone, and I have both JingLiu e0s1 and a great DOT Kafka team. She might be a rerun pick up for me.

@PajamaPedo

3 ай бұрын

You'd definitely want her sig LC, S5 GNSW with her is around 30% weaker in terms of dmg. And that's a huge gap.

@PajamaPedo

3 ай бұрын

You'd def want her sig LC since it's better than S5 GNSW (her best F2P option) by around 30% in dmg increase.

@walmart8565

3 ай бұрын

Are we the same people? I’m in the exact same situation

@source324

3 ай бұрын

​@@PajamaPedoits not a 30% damage difference

@source324

3 ай бұрын

Its dps which is the same Since she literally gains her ult faster making it deal more dps

Siiiigh. Luocha is not suddenly somehow F-tier simply because he doesn't directly buff his teammates. F-tier implies a completely unusable, pointless and powerless unit that can not do anything whatsoever under any circumstances and genuinely never provides any value to you in any conceivable scenario. THAT is what an F-tier unit would be. Just because I'll be missing out on HuoHuo's energy regen and ATK% buff does not mean I suddenly can't clear content anymore. And I have HuoHuo E1 on my alt account, I know how good she is. I also have Fu Xuan E1 on my main account. I'm just really annoyed at all these videos that massively exaggerate the importance of sustains that buff teammates. Luocha is fine and he is most definitely not F-tier. And I'd much rather pull for him than the whale-bait Acheron character who is way too reliant on her signature light cone to reach her potential.

@1XXL1

3 ай бұрын

He didn't say that Luocha is F tier even once throughout this video - maybe you should watch it before commenting? And before you say "But... but look at the thumbnail!" it's obviously clickbait for people like you lol

@Kurppalumppu

3 ай бұрын

@@1XXL1 The thumbnail is the first impression and quite clearly states that luocha is "F-tier". Cool, the clickbait worked but now I'll know to easily dismiss any opinions from this channel from now on.

@linuxramblingproductions8554

2 ай бұрын

@@Kurppalumppuironically acheron is already better then jingliu without her signature lmao

Yo do you have a playlist of the music you use in your videos?

I'm really considering getting Acheron now, but the only cones I have are Fermata, the Sampo one, and Loop. Idk if it's worth going for her if I'm running cope cones. Also I don't have enough pulls to get her signature cone. Any thoughts?

@HazZzel-

3 ай бұрын

Without her Lc she has insane drop off in damage. It's ultimately your choice but I think Jingliu would be a better DPS since she can run the sim cone and do great

@HSRFirefly

3 ай бұрын

If u think about meta, Acheron without her LC cant compete against Jingliu without her LC

@Conquid-

3 ай бұрын

Meta wise her lc plays a lot but she still does insane damage , jinglu f2p is a safer option (ofc her lc also makes a difference but a little) overall its your own choice have fun with the game

@silvermoonk9121

3 ай бұрын

I think you can try to fetch a Good Nigh, Sleep Well from this LC banner too.

I have a question, I plan on getting both Acheron and Jinglui, as in I am planning on spending money to get both. My question is, like you said we are moving away from 1.0 style DPS and supporting, so would it be worth waiting to see if there is another DPS released in 2.0 that is better than Jinglui, or just get Jinglui because she is just that good and easy to use. I have the characters needed to support both teams, such as Silver Wolf, E6 Pela, Gallahger is rumoured to be amazing with Acheron, and then I have Sparkle and Bronya for Jinglui. Keep up the amazing work man love the content!

I’ve had bailu since the start of the game but always wanted a new healer so was thinking about getting luchoa if I get end up pulling Acheron before that

After great thinking about future team comps, I decided to simply go for E0S1 Acheron, and get Jingliu her LC. I already have Luocha from his first banner, so my Aventurine prio is very low. If i have enough pulls left I will probably go for Robin or Aventurine, coz I dont have Topaz or Kafka teams

tbh i'm trying to build a dps of each element and the element i lack is ice so i'm fine with waiting for acheron's rerun bc i need jingliu more even tho acheron and kafka have different playstyles i already have lightning covered bc i have kafka so i'll just use dot team when i need a lightning dps but you did get me thinking when talking about sustains i didn't even notice lynx is able to increase aggro for destruction and preservation units specifically and wanted to pick the healer i thought was best for blade sounds to me now like i already have his best healer which makes me feel better that i have to skip luocha for jingliu (i'm on 50/50 and can't get both) thank you for posting this also i never understood the fu xuan hype until this video no wonder why ppl say your team is immortal with her

My problem rn iss my team 1 is usually Jingliu,bronya,pela,huohuo 2nd team Ratio,topaz,ruan mei,lynx. There is no world where adventurine isnt a crazy enormous upgrade for my team 2. If I pull archeron it splits up my team one and I dont have silverworlf or Kafka. Even w all the videos I'm so fkn torn. I love archeron design. But it really bones me and I'd have to spend 6 months building 4 star alternatives for my team 2.

@StanleyG23

3 ай бұрын

Just pull for Aventurine. Acheron's not worth it if you don't have good Nihility units to go alongside her and/or if you don't have any spare Good Night and Sleep Well light cones. If still you really want her, you can just pull for her on her rerun.

@zerovking7629

3 ай бұрын

Bro she gonna rerun eventually its just not worth investing into a new DPS when your two established teams aren’t finished yet and especially if you dont have any of the good supports for Acheron ur lowkey gonna screw your resources for months even if you do have the battlepass

@patatipatata4990

3 ай бұрын

Dw bro pela and guinaifen are good enough, and idk if you want leaks but i heard a new 4 star nihility will come out soon, if you want acheron just pull, she's cool af and u can still try for aventurine after

@isshonsaha8673

3 ай бұрын

Just go with Aventurine. Your existing team comps are good enough. If you get Acheron now, you'll be screwed on the resource side of things for months. Plus I heard on the grapevine that Robin will benefit follow up teams greatly so you should probably be trying to save wishes for both Aventurine and Robin instead of going for Acheron.

@phoenix0278

3 ай бұрын

I have kafka,bailu,ruan mei,himeko,argenti, gepard. Based on this who should i pull.Someone help,cause of exams i dont know who is good.😢 Somebody help.please.I am struggling in doing endgame contents too.😅

what's the background music for the first section of the video? it sounds like a Persona song but I can't identify it

@satoukazuma5958

2 ай бұрын

Its "Mori No Miyako" from P5 Strikers

I'm so glad I whaled for luochad on his 1st banner. No I can safely pull whoever I want. And still have luochad on every single of my teams because I like the design

@3.16music

3 ай бұрын

He and FX are carrying me so hard, but they’re also carrying jades as you said. An amazing investment

@keneunaegbu851

3 ай бұрын

If only I wasn't poor I would like to get his eidolons just because I like him lol

@ProxyX02

3 ай бұрын

I got loucha on his first banner by accident and I do not regret it at all he’s so sp positive and isn’t hard to play at all which I love about him

@Donkam_haurder

3 ай бұрын

That's why femboy are the best

@dante19890

3 ай бұрын

u didnt need to whale.

should i get jingliu or aventurine? didnt play for a while so missed out on jingliu/luocha(not pulling)/fu xuan/huohuo i sorta whaled for E2S1 acheron so im not worried about that, but i dont have a good ice dps(have yanqing but he' sucks lol). for sustain characters i have natasha, lynx, gepard, fire mc. could use more what do you guys think?

Lynx is overrated imo. I have her E2, level 80 with traces level 7 and good relics and she couldn't sustain me through MoC 10-12 full stars. The cleanse is really nice but her healing numbers are low and she's SP neutral as her continuous healing and ultimate aren't enough to keep alive in harder fights. I also don't find her Aggro buff to be that great. Yes, it works, but it's not 100% aggro by any means. I picked up Luocha this patch and he's got me full clearing MoC now so I definitely think he's a great sustain option. Extremely SP positive and super easy to play. His dispel buffs and imaginary breaking are also great in a pinch.

@TheKnifeWolf

2 ай бұрын

Same. I thought I was going crazy and missing something everybody else saw in Lynx. She is by no means a bad healer but I was constantly clearing one stage of MoC and losing the other. Pulled Luocha during his rerun and cleared MoC 12 almost brainless with him not even fully built... couldn't be happier with my choice

@sirthrillium

2 ай бұрын

DUDE SAME

As a new player who just started 2 weeks ago.. What I want now are characters.. I don't want to worry about any LC bs for now, I'll make due with what I have. I pulled for Sparkle got her in around 60-70 ish pull and I will be pulling for Acheron and as for the Crazy Ice Chick, if I have any Jade left after Acheron maybe I'll pulled for her as well? With that I'll have two dps for two teams. After that, I'll just have to saved up and pulled for those Crazy supports once their banner drops.

@albertoolveram8617

3 ай бұрын

As a new player you might wanna get jingliu over Acheron since Acheron damage is really gated behind her light cone not to mention jingliu gets free 50% crit rate from her talent making it extremely easy to build her

@zerovking7629

3 ай бұрын

Dawg ngl if you don’t have the jades for both…I’d get jing liu since she is much easier to build relic and LC wise since her 2nd best is free in the herta store while Acheron doesn’t need her LC to function her 2nd best Lc is S5 GNSW and since your a new player you definitely do not have that and even then her LC is 32% stronger then S5 GNSW and all that is not even considering the characters they eant Acheron wants more specific supports while Jing liu generally works with any support Tl;dr Jing liu is much better for beginner and F2P players then Acheron but if you really want Acheron then go ahead dude I’m just explaining my view

@AnimeWineAuntie

3 ай бұрын

If you just started, JingLiu is a powerhouse and the herta store light one is great on her. Regardless of if you pull her or Acheron (pick up who you like, buddy), you probably want to consider a sustain as your higher priority over a second DPS. If you got Sparkle, build your QQ up as your second DPS and your free lynx for budget quantum team.

@ectoBiologist21

3 ай бұрын

Bro your a new player, you need to pick of JL first, Acheron is a new player trap.

@swisherrrr

3 ай бұрын

pull for whoever u want but in 1-2 months you're gonna be regretting not grabbing a sustain if you use all your jade on the DPS this patch

For the past 2 days I've been thinking about Acheron E0S1, but managed to shake the thoughts by listening to Sam's OST. I'll keep strong and get E2S1

my friend is struggling he started playing when argenti came out and he hasnt pulled a bailu or gepard hes really excited to get both aventurine and luocha because he has no 5* sustain

great video

Awesome content, like always. I'm skipping all 3 and pulling for Adventurine and his lightcone, so I'm bit sad you didn't mention him and his pull value. I'll be waiting for his dedicated video though, so keep up the good work!

@shadownocas493

3 ай бұрын

His light cone too? Just go for Acheron instead of the light cone

@HazZzel-

3 ай бұрын

Same here, I'm going for him plus Lc. It actually is starting to piss me off how ppl are pretending he doesn't exist

@HazZzel-

3 ай бұрын

​@@shadownocas493lmfao no. Maybe they don't like Acheron- and even if they did, she needs so much investment it isn't funny. Don't tell ppl how to pull 💀

@jip709

3 ай бұрын

My highest investment characters are FuA so my choice for Adventurine + lightcone was a no brainer. I might skip his Eidelons though cuz I'm hyped for Boothill.

@shadownocas493

3 ай бұрын

@@HazZzel- just giving a suggestion… they do what they want

Tbh im a little conflicted about if i should continue to try and get sparkle or just move on for Acheron because have DHIL and jingliu as my main dps dhil obviously going to be using sparkle. But in time DHIL is not gonna be anywhere close near the top 2 dps (as you can clearly see with jingliu slowly widening the gap). But then if i dont pull for sparkle i wasted time building my DHIL when i could have just got black-swan then got pela or whatever. Then I would save up for Acheron. Problem being I did exactly not that . Or should i go for aventurine which is gonna be a amazing sustain will last overtime. The only 5 star preservation i have is gepard. Basically i dont have fu xaun sadly I didnt start the game at that time. I have DHIL light cone btw and bronya. However I use bronya for jingliu obviously. What do you think I should do?

@solace4366

3 ай бұрын

Acheron really need her LC to do some truck DMG, so if you give up on Sparkle you have a problem you need to solve in Acheron's case (Her LC and pull for more uptimal supports for her in the future), or you can solve DHIL with less jades. But at the end is up to you to decide. I'm in the same situation and i still can't decide it myself 😅

i really like the point about how jingliu teams are reaching their ceiling - like once we figured out the Blade + Jingliu combo, idk how else we can improve it LMAO but yeah acheron definitely can still keep getting better and better in the future!

@troy2223

3 ай бұрын

Same with dhil team tbh, i don't know how it can get better than sparkle+ruan mei+huohuo.

Right, but for newer players wouldnt it actually be good to get Luocha for use with Jingliu?

Don't forget Luocha's Ult removes a buff from an enemy. Even auto-revive ones. I would say that if you only have Bailu as a sustain, go for Luocha. You still need 2 teams for MoC and no-sustain teams are only viable at great vertical investment from now on. (There is a certain upcoming dinosaur that will be reset simulator on those teams.)

@dominiclacroix6524

3 ай бұрын

what do you mean by reset simulator?

@hlonghi

3 ай бұрын

@@dominiclacroix6524 he will probably be able to 1 to 2-shot a character in a single cycle if you are unlucky or go without a sustain unit, ending your 3 star run forcing a reset. Hence the name "reset simulator". Like all my MoC runs with Yanqing and his God forsaken follow-up RNG.

@dominiclacroix6524

3 ай бұрын

@@hlonghi ah thanks

i got luocha within 2 pulls. then also got acheron, is that fine? or am i like, gonna still bricked fr

Hey, I'm unsure to pull for Jingliu or Acheron. I have Blade and Lynx semi built up, semi built up, and I was thinking about pulling on her rerun... However, I was also planning to pull for Acheron, and I have a lot of nihility leveled up (to a questionable amount). So, which should I prioritize? I also need an ice dmg dealer other than herta, and already have BS and kafka.

@WestProZ17

3 ай бұрын

If you got Nihilty to run with her then go Acheron. Otherwise I recommend Jingliu

@MrGoodra17

3 ай бұрын

You already have a solid team with Kafka+BS and you could use jingliu with blade/lynx

@mikhaelis1447

3 ай бұрын

You got the perfect teams for both Acheron and Jingliu which is Jingliu + Blade/Lynx and Acheron + BS/Kafka, its up to you to decide which of the two characters you want more although I do have to say this.. Jingliu is easier to build and has a couple of f2p LC whereas Acheron is a lot more.. needy. If you really need an Ice DPS there's always Misha who is a great damage dealer especially with Eidolons but if you don't have that then Jingliu might be best.. Acheron will have a rerun sooner than Jingliu after this patch anyways so do what you will with that info.

people should just see it like hyper carry was primo in the previous card set but the new card set is supporting new archetypes and supporting previously under powered archetypes. anyone that know yugioh or magic should understand that

I suspect we might get a Nahility substance unit in the future for Acheron. The cleset to that Current is Welt but it's not a good set up. But a unit like Welt that allows imprisonment like effects (like freeze also) is possible as a sub Nahility DPS.

Random question Why do you not level your characters to 80?

running x2 SU every week is my most bane time consuming. Acheron's technique alone has account bricked level value to me because of this, at least until they implement faster option in 2.3 as they said in live update. yes, RM did ease me some of these pain but it still not enough :/

Brotha what song is that playing 😩👏

I’m not sure who to get bc I don’t have an ice dps and want Acheron it’s either Acheron+Aventurine, Misha e0 from selector Or Acheron+Jingliu, Xueyi e6 from selector

I’m picking up Luocha… and then Acheron and Aventurine… unfortunately I’m skipping Jingliu’s LC. Was going to get that for her but I don’t think I will have enough luck or Jades by that point.

Im a returning player and my only dps is Dr Ratio (I dont like his playstyle so I dont wanna use him) Should I pull for Jingliu or Acheron? I have Bronya and Tingyun which are good with Jingliu but should I pull for Acheron in hope for her being even stronger in the future?

I'm not sold on if I think I'll enjoy Acheron's (What I like to call) Mono Nihility Playstyle. (I guess that is something for me to figure out if I'll like the playstyle or not with Support Acheron's) Even though I don't need a Sustain (I have Fu and HuoHuo), I do want Aventurine, The idea of a FUA team with him Topaz and Ratio seems hella fun to me and the only Reason in my mind I would get another sustain is either Teamcomp or if Hoyo Decides on 3 sides for an upcoming MOC 13-15 or Playstyle oriented. (As for Loucha, Sparkle, pela, and SP management already can suffice for my Sp Consumption so I don't need him whatsoever (For my Blade, Huohuo can easily Suffice for him.) and Loucha does nothing that Aventurine can't do for FUA teams. Jingliu's E1/E2 seem nice but I am already satisfied with her Peformance at E0S1 so I can save for Topaz's E1/Fu's S1, Sam, Screwllum, Etc after 2.1.

Bro i got bailu,jing yuan,sliver wolf,gepard,kafka,ruan mei,welt and yanquing who would you recommend pulling for?

@Void_Archivez

3 ай бұрын

To be honest, you have many great damage dealers already so Acheron won’t be a need at all. If your Bailu doesn’t do enough healing for your team, you could pull Luocha. Luocha is extremely sp positive and he is easy to build (he also cleanses your team, which wasn’t mentioned in the video). Aventurine is also great, seen from the leaks. If you don’t have a healer, go for a shielder like him! Unlike Gepard (who gives the team def with his ult), Aventurine gives def with his skill. Or you could just skip these banners and go for either Robin or Boothill! It matters what your team consists of, really. Goodluck with your pulls :)

@RaidenDisNots

2 ай бұрын

black swan, acheron.

@RaidenDisNots

2 ай бұрын

and then any sustainer

How about my situation? I have a Kafka, BlackSwan and Ruan Mei. But no Jingliu. I got Seele, Sparkle, Topaz and Ratio. So would going for Acheron with Kafka on my ac be a bad choice over Jingliu?

@HSRFirefly

3 ай бұрын

Gonna be honest, u dont need any of the 2. If u dont pull for LC, just straight up skip Acheron

@thunder2753

3 ай бұрын

If u have the fua team u might as well get Aventurine imo instead of Acheron

@_hector__

3 ай бұрын

using blackswan or kafka on an acheron team is a waste of potential of blackswan and kafka because acherons best team mates for now is silverwolf and welt, you got seele, topaz and ratio, 3 dps so unless you desperately need an ice dps or really want jingliu i would hold out and see what new characters come up

With RM when she puts that flower over the enemy’s head, the break extension does that count as a debuff of Acheron stacks?

@3.16music

3 ай бұрын

The flower 🌸 on their heads is a debuff, but it’s 1 time only, meh

@PLBiohazard

3 ай бұрын

The game considers Ruan Mei's flowers as a debuff when it comes to Ratio. Still need confirmation about Acheron's stacks but based on that logic, it would be weird if it wasn't.

You guys think Fu xuan will be coming back any time soon? I'm not really a fan of aventurine...

@Damper042

3 ай бұрын

Her and Topaz should 99% be the reruns next patch in 2.2 unless huohuo or argenti jump them for some odd reason

@raygalaxy2717

3 ай бұрын

Well considering that she came out right after ILDH and before Jingliu, she is honestly up next in the following patch since those 2 have gotten/are getting the reruns already. I can imagine that both her and Topaz may be coming back since they are next in the time line, followed by Huohuo and Argenti in the patch after.

@GhostzinZ

3 ай бұрын

@@Damper042 thank you

@GhostzinZ

3 ай бұрын

@@raygalaxy2717 thank you

this video didn't answered my most important question if i have Kafka, missing ANY good Ice DPS, should i STILL go for Acheron and her LC?

@RaidenDisNots

2 ай бұрын

you dont need elemental coverage with acheron in your team, building a dot team and an acheron hyper carry team, you would never need to pull again.

i have already full build jing yuan and serval c6 do I really need another electro dps?

@maingrader4434

3 ай бұрын

No go jingliu or aventurine

Iyo is never escaping these hypercarry claims 😂

so glad that i only ever pulled for sparkle, ruan mei, ruan mei lc, dan heng il, acheron and acheron lc. Only pulling meta and the content creators telling you that you have the best team is just such a good feeling

Bailu can revive a ally that is correct, that ally can also be auto killed straight after by the enemy.

@haiffy

3 ай бұрын

That will most likely never happen unless your dps dealing negative dmg

Kinda wish i found this channel when i started last year. I'm still new to team building, so far i have kafka's best team, but i have no idea what rotations am i suppose to do with them. And i have Jingliu but I don't have any idea what other characters besides pela and bronya, that are good for her. I'm planning on building Gallagher for her since i don't gave another sustain except lynx, but i didn't build her because i heard she was only good for blade and clara. Hell this is the main reason I can never get far in MOC and PF. 😩

Thoughts on pulling Ave if I have a cracked gepard? only 5* Sustain is luocha, but i want to pull huohuo rerun 100%, main team BS Kafka, 2nd team Mono Ice JL

@KillaManReaper2

3 ай бұрын

That is a great question. A lot of these videos can be summarized to, "If you need this character because you don't already have someone like them, (ie, of the same path) roll for them." You already have a preservation character who in your words is cracked, do you really need another one? Sure, adventurine does do some pretty cool things, but in the end he still gives the team shields like gepard. Why waste recourses and rolls on something you already have and thus don't need.

@ScientistA

3 ай бұрын

yeah ultimately i decided to skip this patch for guaranteed Robin (lost 5050 to welt on sparkle) + waiting huohuo rerun wanted to pull ave because he does gives a little CD boost + jingliu team with bronya usually JL goes so often she is without shield some time, but in Moc 12 just reset kekw so..

Wish I did more research before grinding the hell out of the game for luocha, but at the same time he is probably the best survivability pick for my inhibitor lunae so I don’t regret him all too much

Your comment about Star Rail going more team oriented, is something i realized since Kafka release. Or Topaz being extremely good for follow-up teams. This makes the game more F2P friendly, because you ONLY need one specific 5-star and can fill the rest of the Team with 4-stars and still be good.

Whatever you do don’t believe the one year lie lol… oh man where is Iyo getting this stuff…

I’m on a 50/50 and I started at 1.5 part 2 so I haven’t had the chance to get a 5star sustain so I’m probably gonna test my luck on luocha and if/when I lose I’ll use my guarantee on adventurine

@jirou6228

3 ай бұрын

Nah i think is better to guarantee Aventurine cause he fresh and probably will be the new meta

I just wanted to add that Luocha also clears the buffs from the enemy with his ult which is also very useful in memory of chaos, mostly when they have dmg increased and you don't get to break them on time.

You convinced me to wait for aventurine over luocha as my second sustain.

Well i am a new player and my question is will Luocha help me beat Phatylia cause she’s a pain in the arsenal

Your comprehensive breakdowns are so fucking helpful for a new player. Shit rules

I’ve been going back and forth on Aventurine but I think I’m ultimately gonna skip. I want e0s1 Acheron and I’m gonna get Luocha and then e1s1 fu Xuan when she comes back. I have huo huo now and that combination covers me both with what I want to do gameplay wise and just character design and appeal for me. I haven’t enjoyed using FUA the way I have other team comps and I just like the way HuoHuo, Luocha and Fu Xuan play as sustainers. I love getting the advice and ideas from people like you though who really analyze these things!

The problem for me isn’t between jingliu and Acheron(already got jingliu) for me it’s between Acheron and either luocha/aventurine🤧

@LordNovaPrime1

3 ай бұрын

Same. Acheron looks fun, but I'm trying to decide if I should get Aventurine or Luocha. I have Fu Xuan and Lynx and can build Gepard. Lynx just doesn't get the job done imo so I'm trying to decide whether to build Gepard or get a limited sustain

@Krugmatik

3 ай бұрын

@@LordNovaPrime1 gepard is really good for the monkey that throws bottles of water at you since you need specifically an AOE shield to deal with that mechanic.

@josephcaraballo8325

3 ай бұрын

Gepard is what I'm building

@taylordrost3573

3 ай бұрын

My problem is Acheron and either Adventurine or Jingliu. Having a good shielder would be nice along with Adventurine’s damage, but I also don’t have a super good ice DPS

@MariaRodriguez-hb4ix

3 ай бұрын

I have Gepard E3 . Even so , I would like to get Aventurine. Which will be very difficult if I try to get Acheron and her LC.

Bailu can’t even res one unit if she’s debuffed/ult locked - it’s gotten me killed a few times.

Is Gepard strong enough to be a solo sustain? I really want Acherons light cone but if I attempt that, I won't be able to get acheron. My Gepard is E2 byw.

@froggyplay

3 ай бұрын

@@kyeda should I just run straight DEF? What's your reccomemdation?

@IdeasAreBulletproof

3 ай бұрын

If he is built with ERR (For faster Ultimate's) some good SPD and enough Defense to create Decent shields I think he'll do fine.

@niigolover

3 ай бұрын

I have E0S2 gepard and he gets the job done. He has 4k def, 3.8k hp and 134 spd

@geckogekko

3 ай бұрын

100% been running Moc with Bronya, Ting and Element DPS, and Gepard solo sustain with ERR, 4K def… 123 SPD ( he could be faster but no relic luck). I’m still picking up Aventurine for Preservation Path in SU, cuz fun.

@niigolover

3 ай бұрын

@@geckogekko omg imagine aven and gepard's shields in su

Since I like to have all the four-stars, Gallagher being on Acheron's banner makes me feel more confident to court picking her up in the chase.

imma skip acheron and just prob get her on a rerun cause I need another sustain and plan on getting aventurine and also getting topaz on her rerun since I had planned to

I actually wanna know about Acheron vs Robin if you don't have Sparkle

Still confused should i go all in for sparkle as i will get her in next 10 pulls gauranteed or pull achron. I already have fully functional DOT team with kafka swan and ruan mei and i also have dhil and QQ builded. So confused coz my account is so ready for acheron i have SW pela fully builded also have welt have all the required lightcone for them and also got some good rolls in acheron relic domain. So confused as she needs her lightcone to function properly and i have so much believe in my luck so yeah this sucks.

@beatstiqs

3 ай бұрын

if you dont specifically want either one... and you are willing to go for her lightcone,then acheron...if not,then sparkle.

@solace4366

3 ай бұрын

I'm in the same dilemma.... tough decision, Acheron without her LC doesn't look that hot, but i like her and her JP VA, same thing with Sparkle, but Sparkle don't need her LC..... hard decision.

@kapilkhandelwal48

3 ай бұрын

@@beatstiqs Actually the thing is I really love my Kafka and I don't want that acheron overshadow her and I am getting why people are saying she is not good without her signature lightcone and it's a fact she is not and you can't solve it by any way

@kapilkhandelwal48

3 ай бұрын

@@solace4366 Sparkle japnese VA is amazing man what is her dubbing I can just pull her just for that. But it is indeed a tough decision for real but I am leaning more towards sparkle cause she is more valuable than her and more f2p friendly

@troy2223

3 ай бұрын

Pull for Sparkle, she's the cutest mischievous character in the game and she's much more future proofed, you don't need acheron when most lightning weak boss can be solved by kafka or dhil brute force

Im struggling with not getting acheron e1 so i can get Jingliu. My acheron is e0s1 but that 18% crit is so hard not to grab. But i do want Jingliu badly. Then with Fu Xuan rerun on the horizon i need her too. Then in 2.3 im going all out on sam like idc what the eidolons are im going atleast e2 s1 for sam

ive never been able to clear past MOC10. I have Jingliu, Dhil, Sparkle, Ruan Mei, Silverwolf, Luocha, and even Fu Xuan. It might be a skill issue, but does anyone have any tips, please? 🙏

@albertoolveram8617

3 ай бұрын

Max out traces and levels on your characters, after that you can look into artifacts

@Hyzayn

3 ай бұрын

It literally is skill issue. Gladly the skill required to 36 stars aint high at all, just max traces and check guides for characters, as well as things like SPD thresholds

@HSRFirefly

3 ай бұрын

Hmm, even if u have the units, its eiyher survivability issue on ur end or u dont deal much damage as u buily ur dps like a tank? Im not sure rn whats ur exact issue BUT im able to do True 0 Cycle with DHIL + Asta + RM + Sparkle and Jingliu + Bronya + TY + Pela (yes, once u built ur characters well, u most likely wont be running sustain especially if u do good enough damage)

@ectoBiologist21

3 ай бұрын

Skill issue, the play the game and build your characters.

@mengyue1472

3 ай бұрын

you prolly have bad relics

My eyes are set on Huo and FX, because you don’t need to heal what can’t die, and I want that sweet harmony healer for Kafka and BS. Right now I use Bailu and Lynx (and/or Gepard), but I’d prefer more than just heals. The revive is great, though most deaths are because of CC so the loss won’t be too huge. Lynx will still have a place as Iyo mentioned, especially if I ever get Clara’s LC. Gepard’s shields are beefy, but Aventurine just seems like a superior version, with more shields, buffs/debuffs, and greater synergies with various teams (FUA, Acheron). I’d probably still roll Geppie for Rememberance GnG or SD though, for the ever reliable freeze. Great video, it’s nice having a sustain breakdown when they all have the same primary role. I believe in 2.2, give me FX! And maybe Huo in 2.3, 4 at the latest.

I don’t see the big deal with Jingliu, you need to do just as much work to keep her in her enhanced state than you need to keep DHIL with skill points and now Acheron seems to be better than the 2

@MsFrandark

3 ай бұрын

Jingliu is really easy to build and high dmg is not hard to keep her enhanced state just save ult when enhanced so it last longer. She was easily best dps before Sparkle came out for IL Even if she got slightly powercreep still top dps. She is very versatile into most team with her teammates also Jingliu still 2nd best dps before Acheron come btw as much as IL need Sparkle to Shine. Jingliu need Bronya a lot to shine

@NothingBetterToWatch

3 ай бұрын

Not really? Maybe with the addition of Sparkle this is now the case but prior DHIL had bad sp management. While you could get crescents with her skill, and ult. With a speed tuned Bronya you could very easily be in enhanced state the majority of the time. Edit, plus JL’s dmg Eidolon was more attainable at E1 as opposed to DHIL’s E2. Also very easily built with her crit rate trace.

@sp-exos3517

3 ай бұрын

@@MsFrandarkhalf the time I want/need to use he ult so I don’t waste 2 turns in her regular state, and in her regular state she is useless

@sp-exos3517

3 ай бұрын

@@MsFrandarkbut I would admit before sparkle she was easier to use than DHIL

@3.16music

3 ай бұрын

Her state is really annoying. I genuinely don’t understand why people still call her the best when DHIL and Sparkle exists. Don’t get me wrong, she’s very good, but when you have a character who drops nukes every turn, no downtime, doesn’t eat your team’s HP, doesn’t have to use his full charge attack to finish the enemy if needed. Like his only flaw is non existent Yep, JL is easier to build, but that only really matters for beginners, because you will invest into your character anyway, and not like DHIL or any other character (except maybe Xyuei) requires you to build 1000 different stats. So I never understand that “JL is the best DPS in the game” statement

Im gonna go for acheron if i get her weapon. As a f2p if i dont have enough ressources for her and her weapon im not gonne get her and go for a sustain

I need Luocha for my DHIL team. Sorry Acheron you came out at the wrong time 😢

Want Acheron but I need to keep the ipc dream real😭

@chickennigg

3 ай бұрын

Im lowkey considering this 😔

@milmil5350

3 ай бұрын

Acheron will rerun in the same way that Jingliu is rerunning now. You don't have to give into the current hype. You will have many opportunities to get her later.

@xMckingwill

3 ай бұрын

Screw IPC they tried to screw over an ENTIRE PLANET

@EldenGodRick

3 ай бұрын

​@@milmil5350 Do you mean that she'll rerun in 6 months? If so, it's quite a long time. Meta will change drastically in that period

@fuvdeu

3 ай бұрын

​@@EldenGodRicknah jingliu has been at the top since her release in october same will apply for acheron

what if i've already got jing yuan and kafka? like i know acheron is colorless break and all that but it seems redundant to go for a third electric dps when im still missing an ice dps

@You-px2zz

3 ай бұрын

Get Jingliu

@ABC-yj6cy

3 ай бұрын

MIDyuan lmao

@MaZeRoi

3 ай бұрын

If I were you I will take Jing liu.. only because of she ilcan fill the ice damager in the team.. perfect the team for any situation first.. then after that we can talk about the meta..

I'm fine with my DPS and support units just trying to catch Fu Xuan on her rerun now.

@GermanPilyan2

3 ай бұрын

Same for me, I missed out on Fu Xuan during her first run

I have bronya + sparkle and pela + silver wolf Only 90 pulls, i dont know who to try, i really love jingliu but we should get so much characters and light cones to improve acheron, i really dont know

y we skipping the banner unit? hes a really good option who is also on acheron banner

guys, just pull adventurine since you already have dr ratio. locuha is ok for sustain (i personally have been using him since 1.1 so i can vouch is comfortable to play). i would recommend have a 1 shielder (fu or aven) and have 1 sustain (loucha or huo huo, but if you use acheron then you pribs have gallaghar at which point i would say, dont pull for any other 5 star healer) as for acheron, pull her (i understand the lightcone situation and if you're worried about that then skip, if you're worried about the nihility thing then lemme tell smthng : gallaghar+pela+acheron=3 debuffs x2 since 2 turns in 1 cycle [with 134 speed which you will eventuallly get if you wanna progress your account]+ 1-2 breaks + sparkle to help with sp and crit and dmg% bonus which means you dont have to run 2 nihility, also that mean acheron goes 3 times in 1 cycle which means all this is enough for her ult which deletes everything and if the 1st ult doesnt kill everything the second will meaning 2 cycles which is still pretty good. yes, im assuming you either have e4 pela or reso with high eff hit rate, sorry if that aint relatable) as a jingliu enjoyer, you pull for her but the thing is if you have acheron+ you alr have a free dr ratio, then i think you're account in terms of dps chars is pretty much done (atleast for moc, also guanaifen is another debuffer you could use who is good espicially with gallaghar becuase you can detonate his dots). jingliu is easier to build than acheron but acheron will only get better with future chars (i had a dream) which may/may not synergise with jingliu if you want a team than will be good tiill the end time, you should've just pulled dot lol (not tryna be toxic). fua teams are also pretty good in sustainability of your account( which you can still pull for with a free dr ratio, aven coming after acheron and topaz coming any time in the near future) however if you alr have a built acc like me, pull whoever you want man, and if you wanna main them go all out (by that i mean take risk on weapon banners and shit). me personally, i want acheron since that f2p team i mentioned do be looking kinda nutty (i have s1 GNSW but i want it for kafka + sig is too good) but i also wanna pull aventurine because his kit looks fun + i dont have shielder so i die easily in swarm+golden gears (yea im stuck all the way there lol, but i can clear moc 12 which is why i said my acc is built lol) thanks for listening to me yapping

I’m pulling Acheron and Jingliu. I missed Jingliu because I was on sabbatical from Star Rail. I need her.

Will I be able to get 14000 gems for acheron

There is something about Loucha that people dont talk is that he has his emergency out of turn heal that is very comfortable to play with, you basically dont use any skill points. Also his super is very good too due to the buff removal and weakness breaking (perfect for swarm and those annoying fishes)

i got fuxuan e1 for crit damage too never regreted that decesion so far. No light cone tough will get on rerun. I also use lynx for mr blade.

@rolf1819

3 ай бұрын

depends how much pulls got you to that e1, if you were to check how much it shaves off your moc runs, you'd be surprised how insignificant these eidolans are for the price they are, sometimes they don't even shave off one moc round, if you vertically invest in multiple chrs tho, like ruin meis e1, then black swans e1 etc and combine them, it makes for a worthy investment, but simply one eidolan for one chr is rarely worth it depending on how many pulls it took to get there.

@EnjoyGengar

3 ай бұрын

@@rolf1819 True sometimes you dont even need sustainer.

I need a Huohuo rerun. Her ult is just so broken watching my friend play cutting a rotation, esp with TY

9:23 except she adds a little bit more whilst losing a bit from what luocha does. people love to say that to downplay a character lmao

Even if my main is Blade, should i skip luocha and use bailu?

@_hector__

3 ай бұрын

bailu will get you killed in harder content because she cant dispel debuffs

@tanjiro7396

3 ай бұрын

Dont listen to this dude bailu is dogshit this guy takes are L he is just simping at this point

Flavor-wise, I might justify Fu Xuan's crit rate buff as the insight of prescience.

Acheron is very good at a e0 no LC but she gets so much more insane at e2 siganture LC opening so many team comps it's insane.

Oh I sure I am if I lose 50/50 and don’t get enough to guarantee her before phase 2 comes😊

The meta wont leave hypercarry at all. Its gonna add in a new type of team building but its not gonna stop the hyper carry from working. So dont panic guys.

It's simple for me.. i don't have kafka or jing yuan.. so i need an acheron.. if im lucky enough i would definetly gamble my way for an adventurine too

I do think its worth mentioning not getting her LC she is not top 2 dps in the game the drop off is insane in dmg.

@The_High_SeAs

3 ай бұрын

Who?

@sardorsheraliyev9473

3 ай бұрын

@@The_High_SeAs Acheron

@The_High_SeAs

3 ай бұрын

@@sardorsheraliyev9473 ah OK, then I definetly don't agree. The many multipliers are too good.

@ectoBiologist21

3 ай бұрын

@@The_High_SeAs take gnsw away too(because it’s gacha only) and her drop off is fucking nuts.

@warshawgameshd3432

3 ай бұрын

@@The_High_SeAs Without GNSW and her LC she is worse than JL and DL are with their f2p options.

So sad seeing Jing Liu next banner. I was wanting her so bad but Acheron it is. My Jing Yuan is top teir but need a cracked dps Didn't realize lynx is so good. I built her a few months back bc I had nothing to do so I'm ganna try her, Luocha is my healer, Fu is my sustain. I Built my MC with the burn cone for Acheron when she comes out.