You’re Bad at Good Mornings, They Aren’t Bad for Your Back

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Sam is taking us through the worst back pain myth he can think of and why it's wrong. Good mornings don't hurt your back (unless your technique is bad)!
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  • @danielghesquiere2011
    @danielghesquiere20112 жыл бұрын

    Large cost to attain a quality good morning, huge pay off though. The carryover is insane to both field sport and strength sports.

  • @SOC-ir6im
    @SOC-ir6im2 жыл бұрын

    After doing good mornings with moderate weights past few years my back feels absolutely bullet proof. Never once sustained an injury from them...I will add though that in the beginning I kept the weights very light until I perfected my form then gradually increased...form/technique is everything as stated.

  • @cademaney4335
    @cademaney43352 жыл бұрын

    The dislikes are people that hurt themselves doing good morning and complain about it all the time

  • @JoeyCentral
    @JoeyCentral2 жыл бұрын

    I like the cambered bar suggestion. I have been doing them with the SSB and tbh I like it because the upper back is going to be everyone’s limiting factor so if you can bring it up with a SSB, imagine how strong your upper back will get as well as your glutes and hamstrings?

  • @nicolasklug2311
    @nicolasklug23112 жыл бұрын

    Keep the solid content coming ! Thx to Sam once again :)

  • @samfogleman2337
    @samfogleman23372 жыл бұрын

    So much carry-over to everyday life! Great video!

  • @Yesterdie02
    @Yesterdie022 жыл бұрын

    Great info guys ! much love from South Africa

  • @patrickvanmeter2922
    @patrickvanmeter29222 жыл бұрын

    Really happy I saw this because this is exactly how I have been doing them. Thank you.

  • @kostaskr98
    @kostaskr982 жыл бұрын

    I really like the tutorial videos because we can always have something to recover from form perspective!

  • @LeeH3nson
    @LeeH3nson2 жыл бұрын

    Great vid as ever fellas

  • @justinroberts178
    @justinroberts1782 жыл бұрын

    Incredible timing, I just added GM into my program yesterday. Starting over just the bar to grease the groove a bit before I load up. This helps a lot!

  • @ParvParashar
    @ParvParashar10 ай бұрын

    Great video! Really helped me a lot. 👍

  • @cayenne767
    @cayenne7672 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for another awesome technique video!!! I love your content and the new Table Talk Podcast Style

  • @eliteftsofficial

    @eliteftsofficial

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoy it!

  • @BaldOmniMan
    @BaldOmniMan2 жыл бұрын

    I don’t dislike good mornings, I just prefer heavy RDL’s personally

  • @jaghall47

    @jaghall47

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joebot9309 I would argue they have alot of crossover. Both hip hinges with emphasis on hams and glutes

  • @BaldOmniMan

    @BaldOmniMan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joebot9309 they’re both hip hinges. It’s a 1-1 comparison. It’s like comparing dips and bench press.

  • @ScruffyLeKing

    @ScruffyLeKing

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Relic yeah relic is right, definitely not a 1-1 lmao

  • @devronlewis2503
    @devronlewis25032 жыл бұрын

    good info. well explained.

  • @gordonray528
    @gordonray528 Жыл бұрын

    I worked with a PT that hated GMs. I disagreed with him and still do. This exercise has done more for my low back than any other exercise. Stronger and pain free! Go light and keep your form.

  • @mikeb9396
    @mikeb93962 жыл бұрын

    I really like using the SSB for good mornings. I have a bit or arthritis in my neck so I tend to push the handles forward to eliminate any pressure on my neck. This has worked well for me.

  • @randymalinowski8384
    @randymalinowski83842 жыл бұрын

    After I blew my back apart, once things got fixed up, I started super light good mornings as soon as I could with a yoke bar. I use my Spider Bar at home for them. Good Mornings are a part of my warm up, a main accessory/supplemental for both lower DE and max. I regret not doing them earlier, if I had been, my back wouldn't be the way it is now. People should be doing these a soon as possible.

  • @rum1rum
    @rum1rum2 жыл бұрын

    More bro tips 1) Keep your man card, avoid eye contact❗️ 2) Do theses in power racks with safety bars set

  • @dreday6320
    @dreday63202 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Very detailed and straight to the point. I like that you mentioned going to your own range of motion and weight. That is key

  • @aba192
    @aba1922 жыл бұрын

    I love SSB GMs, especially heavy sets suspended from straps

  • @MJHFTBN
    @MJHFTBN2 жыл бұрын

    they're actually excellent for your back! One of my fav, especially from a dead-stop position off the rack.

  • @farhanhussain_
    @farhanhussain_2 жыл бұрын

    I really like these. I can do them for 10 reps using more than my bodyweight. I feel better stretch in hamstrings with 45° bent knees and horizontal back .

  • @tomwaitsfornoone1182
    @tomwaitsfornoone118211 ай бұрын

    When I first started good mornings I very clearly needed to adapt to them and build some stability before I felt them to very stimulative..... but what they have done to my erectors is incredible, massively increased my barbell bent row performance as well.

  • @ms08gouf
    @ms08gouf2 жыл бұрын

    I cannot cosign anyone that says they don't like good mornings

  • @Tw3kazZ
    @Tw3kazZ2 жыл бұрын

    I didn`t like good mornings at all in the beginn, but now I really like them to do.

  • @HarishVaithy
    @HarishVaithy Жыл бұрын

    Love doing this with the SSB, lot more comfortable especially for people with poor shoulder mobility. Also feel a stronger mind muscle connection this way

  • @AApril261992
    @AApril2619922 жыл бұрын

    I go down as far as my hamstrings let me, which is well before my back would be rounding. I like to do good mornings after deadlifts.

  • @AlmostCoolGuys
    @AlmostCoolGuys2 жыл бұрын

    "Deadlift with the bar on your back" my guy that's some omnipotence level consciousness. 💯

  • @demoncore5342

    @demoncore5342

    2 жыл бұрын

    I almost see squat like that, deadlift with bar on my back... almost.

  • @NonprofitWrench
    @NonprofitWrench Жыл бұрын

    If you struggle with these then I suggest trying the Romanian Deadlift. They're very similar in muscle activation. Good Morning gets slightly more back muscles involved while RDL gets slightly more hamstring and glute activation, and much more lats, traps, and grip strength activated. However, to me, aside from the lats/traps/grip, they feel the same. I personally prefer RDL because for me personally I enjoy them more and they feel more natural. Some people it's the opposite. Both however are exercises that can be extremely taxing on the central nervous system and causing delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS). Additionally you will almost always feel like you can do more weight and/or more reps and sets than you should. With these exercise, think challenging but not exhausting, think stimulation not annihilation. Keeping at least 2 reps in reserve until you are very intimate with the movement and how it affects you.

  • @hoo_li
    @hoo_li2 жыл бұрын

    How is this different than a RDL? Seems like exactly the same movement pattern and similar bar tracking

  • @jerrycunningham1820
    @jerrycunningham18202 жыл бұрын

    Do good mornings when I rest from doing dead lifts. Doing both, man. Also high bar squatter, and good mornings. I am careful. Do PRs seldom with these. Will try with SSB. Saw another Powerlifter doing. Worked well.

  • @USMC5858
    @USMC58582 жыл бұрын

    Dude, nice

  • @tpap6827
    @tpap6827 Жыл бұрын

    I have done good mornings for years slowly working up. I happen to have a short torso and use a low bar position on the squat. Therefore, I can go heavy with a braced torso, thoracic extension and use 315-385 vs Romanian deadlifts at 494-565. I get more out of less weight and my deadlift strength doesn’t go down but improves without doing it often. I go one day a week and always get at least 6 reps (bar, 95, 135, 185, 225, 275, 315 maybe 365/385 but this is only once a month. With 315 I get 8 reps and could probably get 12 but this is not an exercise on which you want to train until firm breaks down. I started 20 years ago already deadlifting close to 600 but spent 5 years getting the weight up there and abandoned the deadlift and use it as a primary movement in place of the deadlift. I actually get more back work because with my long arms my deadlift does not require a big torso bend. I am maybe at 45 degrees or less on a conventional floor deadlift. This gives me an advantage but makes doing the lift incredibly fatiguing because if I don’t do it off the floor it’s like doing a 1/4 squat or less (which makes any version easier but that means I need to go heavy since the ROM is so insignificant which means higher loads and regardless of whether you have short arms and do the deadlift off a 6-7 inch block to mimic my floor deadlift, if you have a decent deadlift it means you are going heavier than the full range lift and loading the spine. Romanians don’t work for me either. I am flexible in the hamstrings and that means I have to really extend my short torso and crank my hips back with fairly straight legs (which is the way you should do them but if I break form even slightly the plates hit the floor which is not good for the spine unless you drop the bar at the end of the movement like a conventional deadlift (a concentric only movement more or less) which defeats the purpose of the Romanian which (like a good morning) is superior for hypertrophy of the hamstrings, gluteals and erectors given the weighted stretch, the eccentric and the time under tension. Unfortunately, for me it is extremely taxing on the nervous system and skeletal system given the load I need to use for a strength biased exercise. The GM, on the other hand, given the moment arm created when you place the load so far from the hips, gives the same strength effect for lack of leverage. Regardless of what anyone says or whatever studies might say, for me personally, if the total load is much higher on a barbell movement (despite having favorable leverage) my nervous system fatigue goes through the roof. The GM, when performed properly, does not give me anywhere near the level of fatigue as any form of deadlift

  • @leedowner2249
    @leedowner22492 жыл бұрын

    I prefer a stiff leg deadlift Heavier weight, dead pull from the ground so same ROM every time, less risk of fucking up I still do good mornings sometimes but I use a safety bar it's easier to grip

  • @06alepea1

    @06alepea1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. Also, if you want the stretch reflex, just do Romanian DL's.

  • @MasoNowa

    @MasoNowa

    2 жыл бұрын

    Some people recover better from good mornings than deadlifts

  • @stewartsmith3628
    @stewartsmith36282 жыл бұрын

    What if you normally squat with a wide grip....my squat literally resembles the Elitefts logo. I find it helps my elbows and shoulders better. Or just for this, bring the grip in?

  • @bennywatts4174
    @bennywatts41742 жыл бұрын

    Good mornings saved my lower back

  • @porkchopproductions0314
    @porkchopproductions0314 Жыл бұрын

    What are some strength standards for Goodmornings?

  • @heartbeatpoetry7704
    @heartbeatpoetry77042 жыл бұрын

    Would good mornings be a better accessory on squat days, or deadlift days? Is it a good idea to do romanian deadlifts on the same day as good mornings, or is it better to split them up? If you did both on the same day, which one would you do first?

  • @farhanhussain_

    @farhanhussain_

    2 жыл бұрын

    Better do it on squat days, better from efficiency point, just reduce the weights after main squat work and do it. Similarly, RDL are better done on deadlift day using same logic .

  • @Dr_Footbrake

    @Dr_Footbrake

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@farhanhussain_ This is how I most commonly set them up. Whatever bar I've used for squats i'll use for GM and do 3-4 sets with roughly 50-60% of my 1rm (I most often do them straight after DE squat so just follow that wave) occasionally working up to a heavy triple or 5.

  • @samuils
    @samuils Жыл бұрын

    The biggest problem with people is that they do not get proper guidance, and the biggest problem with coaches is that they do not give good enough pointers. In the case of goodmorning, same as deadlifts, one of THE most important things to tell is "do NOT lift with your back, instead push with your hips forward to straighten/level out," and this is precisely the issue that most people have is that they lift with their backs.

  • @helmutkrusemann9194
    @helmutkrusemann91942 жыл бұрын

    do me a favor guys, please keep going with these awesome video! Thank you so much!!

  • @elishaseeber5244
    @elishaseeber52442 жыл бұрын

    I love good mornings!! But I prefer to do them suspended

  • @gkieninger6567
    @gkieninger65672 жыл бұрын

    Good mornings are amazing for my hamstringsgood god

  • @WiecznieNieNasycony
    @WiecznieNieNasycony Жыл бұрын

    l do tham after very heavy squats for 3 sets 10 reps

  • @playfair9920
    @playfair99202 жыл бұрын

    Cable around neck good morning saved my back.

  • @jakeennen9806
    @jakeennen98062 жыл бұрын

    Was that Burley Hawk in the thumbnail?

  • @danielszemborski
    @danielszemborski2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Sam! Great video. A question regarding banded good mornings--Is it normal for me to have my neck (strain from band tension) as the limiting factor in how many bands I can use? I ask because I'm not sure if my hamstrings are too strong for the banded variation (doubtful) or if I'm just doing them wrong. Thanks.

  • @eliteftsofficial

    @eliteftsofficial

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Daniel this could be just simply do you your neck position and where you are looking or it could be as simple as too little band tension, the position of the band, or your form. Though, if you are experiencing neck strain I would try "packing your chin" during the exercise. Think of giving yourself a double chin and keep you neck in neutral as a staring point.

  • @danielszemborski

    @danielszemborski

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@eliteftsofficial Thank you. I will try that.

  • @MichaelWarrenPerform
    @MichaelWarrenPerform2 жыл бұрын

    Power- style GMs are the best strength building movement for the lower body per unit of fatigue

  • @corcodel0
    @corcodel02 жыл бұрын

    What do you think about zercher good mornings? I got a lot stronger from them

  • @h870

    @h870

    2 жыл бұрын

    Interesting variation! Do you find them easier to do than normal good mornings. I hurt myself doing good mornings (despite going light) and I’m thinking about giving these a try

  • @corcodel0

    @corcodel0

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@h870 for me it is easier, especially on my lower back. I also pulled a muscle when doing good morning but by doing them in a zercher style i got way stronger and my back got stronger as well

  • @h870

    @h870

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@corcodel0 thanks! Any small technical nuances that helped you that might not be really obvious?

  • @corcodel0

    @corcodel0

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@h870 it really sucks wearing a belt doing these. I always pinch my belly between the bar and the belt. If you don't wear one you'll need to focus more on the form but i still use more weight than with the regular one.

  • @h870
    @h8702 жыл бұрын

    Can I do these if I have anterior pelvic tilt?

  • @PricePlow
    @PricePlow2 жыл бұрын

    Where's Dave? Didn't Sam just join the brand?

  • @eliteftsofficial

    @eliteftsofficial

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dave is still here. I started back in March.

  • @nicolaszadeh5850

    @nicolaszadeh5850

    2 жыл бұрын

    @elitefts I think what this person meant is that it is a bit surprising to see that much content come out from Sam, who has no credentials that I know of (but it might be from my own ignorance). What was always refreshing with the elitefts content was the authenticity, no BS, hardcore, from the trenches side of it. And these past few weeks we are seeing a side of elitefts that I am starting to dislike, where it feels more like a Sam Brown promotion than expertise dished out from a guy who has seen and done it all. Sorry if it looks offensive, it isn't the point, just trying to express what a fan (all the way back to the t-nation days, 15 years ago) has been feeling recently.

  • @PricePlow

    @PricePlow

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nicolaszadeh5850 ^^ this. No clue what his total is. I’m used to learning from Dave, JM, John Meadows, folks that are established with EliteFTS and powerlifting. The athlete in the thumbnail is not in the video, found it misleading.

  • @wolfnuske8884
    @wolfnuske88842 жыл бұрын

    Thoughts about Zercher Good Mornings anyone?

  • @007rosco

    @007rosco

    2 жыл бұрын

    My home gym setup doesn't have squat stands or a power rack yet. So I started doing my good mornings Zercher style and I love it! Hurts so good 😂

  • @demoncore5342

    @demoncore5342

    2 жыл бұрын

    Don't know, I do a lot of work in Zercher hold, but those would be harder to brace RDLs at best.

  • @Cyclefag420
    @Cyclefag4202 жыл бұрын

    It's all well and good saying this, but all these videos on the Good Morning always show it being done with a speciality bar that the majority of people will not have access to. Maybe do a guide with a straight bar?

  • @RonaldRumRaisin
    @RonaldRumRaisin2 жыл бұрын

    another good video by the EliteFTS Fart Guy

  • @tboland728
    @tboland7282 жыл бұрын

    Whatever happened to JP Carroll?

  • @rorkirbabtista9429

    @rorkirbabtista9429

    2 жыл бұрын

    He died from the vaxxine.

  • @tboland728

    @tboland728

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rorkirbabtista9429 i don't WANT to believe you...

  • @BeaterCar
    @BeaterCar2 жыл бұрын

    Beginners should stay in the 10-20 rep range till they feel more comfortable handling higher intensity weight

  • @ZuFFuLuZ
    @ZuFFuLuZ2 жыл бұрын

    You should show it with some weight. Anybody can do an exercise with an empty bar.

  • @MrMatt9793

    @MrMatt9793

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yet hardly anybody does it right.

  • @freakied0550
    @freakied05502 жыл бұрын

    JP in the thumbnail but not the video. Much disappoint.

  • @rockon8174
    @rockon81742 жыл бұрын

    Hyper extensions are better than Good Mornings

  • @AdamA-qc6nc

    @AdamA-qc6nc

    Жыл бұрын

    They definitely aren't as effective as good mornings. I suppose it depends on each person's personal experience but I strongly believe the good morning is by far the best accessory to deadlift and for building hamstrings/low back.

  • @54mrys
    @54mrys2 жыл бұрын

    Try to make your body a 7.

  • @peeweesermon2231
    @peeweesermon22312 жыл бұрын

    JP Carroll... whatever happened to that dude

  • @ONShypnos

    @ONShypnos

    2 жыл бұрын

    Burned every bridge he had and isn't welcome in very many gyms.

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