Hey guys, I'm Wes, I too am not the curator of the Theo and Harris watch shop. Love your content tho!

@tomasinacovell4293

2 жыл бұрын

Christafer is getted way to Kanye, it be despicable to me.

Controversial, but I have to say it.....Tudor is cooler than Rolex.

@currentaf8455

3 жыл бұрын

Not controversial at all.

@lucioledizerot196

2 жыл бұрын

Depends how you define cooler. Rolex packs a stronger "oof" for me in terms of heritage and cultural relevancy, but Tudor makes many models which I prefer to Rolex models in terms of looks and feel. So it really depends on your perception of what cool means in terms of watches

Theo and Harris keeps getting older, Christian however never ages. That’s some real Dorian Gray shit there

The Pelagos has, objectively, the best metal bracelet on any watch, ever. Except it's not available in steel, only titanium. The BB58 925 looks like a spectacular watch. If Tudor was only in non-Rolex dealers, it would still be a great brand.

RE: Tudor. Couldn’t disagree more. If you really look around - REALLY LOOK - there is little competition for classically designed divers in that price range. I like Oris, had two of them, but the quality of design isn’t there for me. Nor are the movements - with the in-house calibre still not included in Diver 65 range. Aquaracer? Different size and a ‘meh’ design for me. I even prefer the BB58 to Submariners (value retention notwithstanding). Black Bay, with the steel bezel and no-date is less flashy, less in-your-face, much more suited for inconspicuous consumption and younger audience than the slightly old manish (or hedge fund bro) Submariner. Don’t get me wrong - there’s plenty of odd watches in Tudor range. But when they get it right, they really do. If I were to reduce my current collection to 2, I’d happily just own a JLC Master Control and a Black Blau 58 Blue and consider ma myself lucky.

@oliverpersson6090

3 жыл бұрын

You prefer a "diver" with 200m water resistance, no crown guards and faux rivets on the bracelet. You argue it's for a younger audience, but at the end of the day it's simply for an audience that fail to see value beyond esthetics or the origin of its design. The reason dive watches are popular is because of their practicality and functional design. Remove practicality and functional and you're left with a Black Bay 58. You're simply paying for design.

@Angry_Gnome

3 жыл бұрын

@@oliverpersson6090 The reason dive watches are popular is purely aesthetic. Who the f***k is actually going diving with a $9k Sub? …or a $4k Black Bay for that matter. For everyday wear, the Tudor is plenty durable.

@oliverpersson6090

3 жыл бұрын

@@Angry_Gnome If you think the reason they are popular is purely aesthetic then there's no discussion to be had. You're simply wrong.

@dave_5204

3 жыл бұрын

@@oliverpersson6090 So what’s the reason for the Popularity of the BB58 if not aesthetics? You think it is because people cannot afford a Rolex and for that reason buy a Tudor? I am sure there are plenty different reasons, but I personally really do like the aesthetics of Tudor. I don’t like the faux rivet but they don’t bother me that much. I love the sizing, I like the lack of date, I don’t need crown guards and I am happy about the brushed look and a touch of vintage without having to deal with a vintage but a rather solid modern movement. Where is the issue? It’s fine if you don’t like the look, but I wouldn’t say it’s a watch that is not sufficiently “functional” or “practical”.

@DiamondRingo99

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, however I think the BB 58 will hold its value quite well!

I actually started liking Tudor without knowing yet about it's relation to Rolex. Though I agree that the brand wouldn't be where they are now without that foundation

I am waiting for the day when there is waiting lists for g-shocks

Tudor always made very good Watches for price.

I wonder what was edited out at 2:51 😂, Christian scared of getting cancelled

@watchgeek3977

3 жыл бұрын

What an observation ..

@rudyvasquez4512

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing !!! Haha

@zillsburyy1

3 жыл бұрын

yup no balls

@Weakeyedominant

3 жыл бұрын

@@zillsburyy1 in this day and age can you blame him. One slip and years of hard work building a brand can be cancelled in a second.

@b2themfeto

3 жыл бұрын

I'm brown n I thought that was hilarious!! 🤣

I don’t own a Tudor and I’m not a Tudor fanboy. I think their success is a mix of design and the Rolex name. They can’t just be getting to where they are because of their association with Rolex alone. Their Glamour and Style models aren’t flying off the shelves. The BB is selling well because of its design and then further helped by its affiliation with Rolex. The fact that they are pretty much just the Black Bay company now is surely testament to that.

@mariog7213

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t know. Some other models are catching up. The 1926 has been popping up a lot lately (after I bought mine 😁), the north flag, as controversial as it was, is now becoming a sought after piece, people really like the rangers, etc.

@MrMeeks-vi5lo

3 жыл бұрын

Pelagos pretty popular too

@nkonig1

3 жыл бұрын

Alright stop destroying my argument! 😂 I’ve just noticed that the fastrider is no longer on their website, so that must’ve been discontinued. I stand by what I said about the Glamour and Style lines, they need a massive revamp.

I was having such a miserable day until I watched you two, thanks for the pick me up. Very few videos which I watch from start to finish. Keep up the good work.

Great follow up intro boys! Thank you for for making my coffee making session fun today!

Christian, can you tell me your wrist size? I am wondering because I'm trying to figure out if a particular watch I'm looking at will fit my wrist.

Christian where did you get that shirt?

Hey Cristian. Where is Anna? Have not seen her on KZread lately. Nico from Pride & Pinion fancy her.

@TomReinerDE

3 жыл бұрын

Same question here.

@sensational_cellar8606

3 жыл бұрын

Nico is awful. Good luck to him.

@Arc1517

3 жыл бұрын

She is with Shelly Miscavige

@ericpignatore5317

3 жыл бұрын

He is never going to address her leaving. I follow her on Instagram. She’s doing some photo stuff out in SoCal. It is very strange that nothing was ever said considering she’s a co-founder and was such a big part of the channel.

Glad to see you guys could actually manage to sit even closer together than last video.

I was a year early to the party, picked up the Omega Aqua Terra in Green back in March 2020

I'm in love with your interlude music 🎶

I agree with you. Tudor has got some very original designs and concepts that I appreciate. Some tudors have a very distinct appeal

I like how Cristian looks the exact same in the white g shock as he does now

that stella blue dd looks incredible

Love the vibes from this show. The personalities mesh well. Yall just need to be infront of a fireplace smoking cigars and drinking whiskey. Talking watches

Is there any chance you can review a watch that I am pondering purchasing. It is the JLC Master Control (Sector dial I think it is labeled). This is the best looking watch under 15k i've seen and I want more info on it. I can't seem to find any online and wonder if it was made for just a year or something?

"Well, they say geniuses pick green. But you didn't pick it." NAME THAT MOVIEEEE

@TheoandHarris

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahhahahahah Bobby d!

Christian. You are back on form. This is the kind of content that you started off doing before you even had the watch franchise and I was addicted to your views on the Omega Speedmaster (the idea of buying the earlier models because they actually had real value and real history and yet they were not being recognised) and lots of other issues for watch collecting. I love the thought experiment. Where are you take the makers name of the watch and simply look at the quality and the features of the watch and judge accordingly. Okay that maybe not what happens in the real world, but you hint that there will be a return to reality at some point.

I watching this while working and when you got to the upside-down photographs I laughed so hard I woke up my daughter in the next room! Awesome video, as usual. I wish I had the cash on hand to pick up that PERFECT Omega. Keep up the good work guys!

I did pick up a green/bronze Zelos. It was priced well, and I was interested to see how the patina would grow. Green just happened to be the best choice of dial with the bronze case.

“I got my ice cream...”🤣. Didn’t think you were old enough for that reference! Golden

“Mike...then why yahh talking smack youu?!” Lol!!

What are Tudor releasing now?

No i like tudor because it is a well made watch. Thanks.

Brilliant! keep up the good work.

great video! re 5711 Platinum?

“It feels uncomfortable... like a glove full of lotion” 🤔

Der: Tudor have a reputation for efficiency and value facilitated by selling Rolex cased, strapped, dials and hands etc, but with 3rd party movements which they highly regulated. Consequently, several important military/police buyers bought Tudors in bulk as they ticked every box the (as though they were then) tool watches Rolex supplied, but cheaper. So purchasing departments couldn't go wrong. This a virtuous circle was created - Tudor get enormous exposure and the chance to gain credibility and kudos. So initially, Tudor got where they were because Hans Wilsdorf created a 'diffusion' line, to plug the gap his already well targeted tool watches hsd varved out. That was then. This is now. Yes they took a while to get back on fire but that was as much down to the 'charity' who own Rolex and Tudor not investing in the brand. Now people buy Tudor because they are Tudor and have a reputation they have earned; the Rolex comment now being an adjoinder as in: "Oh, and you also just know it is part of Rolex so it can't be shit, can it?" All that aside, the Black Bay Heritage line is simply a better looking (subjective but it is, not least cos every hommmarrggge watch is Sub-based so you get design fatigue) and a better tool-wise functioning watch than any Rolex equivalent - not because the Rolex toolers can't compete (they can and they would win) it's the fact that people buy steel sports Rolexes as arm candy, brand statements not as functioning tool watches.

@hersheysquirt6526

3 жыл бұрын

Well said tbh

Snap to 3:13 to avoid the inane bromance/chat prior to that. The discussion on O'Turd starts there and ends at around 8:56.

@bhaijaansabka

3 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated bro.

I wish that more watch brands would make watches that can be worn on either wrist, meaning there is no up or down. Think about the Tudor Heritage Black Bay with a stick marker instead of the triangle marker at twelve O’Clock. With some creative text placement, this would be an awesome ambidextrous watch.

How about this take... Tudor is what Rolex USED to be. Rolex was a fine watch but while it was always expensive it was accessible. Rolex is now impossible to obtain for most and Tudor has taken the mantle.

@edoardofantini6470

3 жыл бұрын

Agree 100%

@mariog7213

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, but have they replaced Rolex by their own merit, or because of Rolex. That’s the question 🙋‍♂️

@hersheysquirt6526

3 жыл бұрын

@@mariog7213 by merit, because nobody wanted Tudor when they were trying to sell garbage in the 90s and 2000s, no matter what the relation to Rolex was. Tudors actually bringing bolder designs that people like, with pretty solid movements.

The day date Cristian is wearing is a great looking watch

Really good episode, guys. Thanks much!

Which ones Abbot and which ones Costello? 😀How about Breitling new reissue on the Premier Heritage Collection. Just bought the Datagraph at you favorite store in Manhasset London jewelers.

Any thoughts on Fortis? Any good?

That TAG Heuer Monaco seems to be “inspired” by the recently released green Royal Oak🤔

I must be tripping, does Christian seem to mimic Wei Koh from the way he stutters to his choice of shirts?

AP has a lot of passionate black collectors like Jay-Z, Serena Williams, Beyoncé, Pras. The black panther watch is an appeal to them. The movie and superhero is meaningful in ways a lot of non-black people wouldn’t try to understand. Black panther is significantly more wealthy than Ironman in the MCU by the way. Money for it went to charity anyway.

@IansModRite

2 жыл бұрын

Got a point there, Black Panther rules over literally the most technologically advanced nation in the MCU

I have stopped watching these videos years ago. But the header alone gets a thumbs up from me. Word!

this combo.. amazing! So fun to watch

Is Anna still around?

@TheoandHarris

3 жыл бұрын

No sir!

When was this taped? During winter or summer? Mike’s got a sweater. But Christian got a summer short sleeve shirt! Uhmmm. who’s off there?

11:53 Christian with the throw back Eddie Murphy reference.

Another great video guys!

Got a green watch, the Rolex OP34 in Olive. Got it the year it came out and love it. Still one of the best green watches imho.

Miss Anna in the viedos..

Got my watch with a green dial a month ago: Seiko Presage Mojito Cocktail. Can't stop looking at it. I am a big fan of all the new green dials.

The AP Black Panther is a bit ridiculous but when I saw a video on it ‘in the metal’, I was surprised at how great it looked.

Telling it like it is and saying the thing that everyone else is afraid of saying. Love it!

That “boom watchfam” at the end of the intro cheers me up in an inexplicable way every single time! Keep at it the genuine ladies and gents of Theo & Harris!!

Love the delirious reference! 😂 I love the green trend too! 🙏🏻

@TheoandHarris

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahha you didn’t get none, you can’t afford it!!!

@kieranrats94

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheoandHarris imagine how much of that show would be cutout if they tried to release it today! 😂

You two are hilarious! 😆 Love your content.

The green Glashutte Original Senator Sixties panodate has the most striking dial I’ve ever seen, and it’s a relative bargain

@Leo1990XXI

3 жыл бұрын

Check some of the new Seiko presage cocktail time 👍🏼

@theejpp

3 жыл бұрын

@@Leo1990XXI I own the SRPB41J1 - great watch! But the dials don’t even come close to comparing

I don’t think Tudor would be as popular as it is without the Rolex connection. I have a green Grand Seiko GMT with the high beat movement. What do you think Tudor is releasing Monday?

I like Christian and Michael talk but some day want to hear Harris and Theo talk.. Never heard them talking.

No, we like Tudor because it's what Rolex used to be in the 70's and 80's. Durable watches with modern design at a (mostly) reasonable price, with no pretense.

@WestCoastAce27

Жыл бұрын

And available (maybe a short wait for new releases).

Whys this video upside down?🤔

Great vid guys!

Christian in all honesty if you are the curator of the Theo & Harris Shop, is your chest hair the carpet mat at the entrance that says 'Welcome' because ...... well I'm not sure if it's inviting or if it makes me wonder if the Theo & Harris Shop is for 'other' services ;)

@felicityw30

3 жыл бұрын

Seems like they are having a theme like 'cold' and 'hot'. One in long sleeves the other in short sleeves with neckline so low.

Kanye was wearing a similar white G shock square in the video for Homecoming.

Interesting video. Regards.

When do you visit Runcorn

The AP looks great from the back.

Oh jeez time flies when watcing this type of vids

As a left handed person, I wear my watch on my right wrist and will notice if a photo is shot on their right wrist. There is a few left handed watches, Pelagos offers it, some better made smaller brands will off the option. And Sordid between good and bad nicrobrands. I don't mind wear the crown is, in same ways better, if I wear it low, or it's a large watch or crown, I find it could be more comfortable even more so if it's a chronography. As far as Tudor, I do think in the past, and far less now, it was the poor mans (not a good comparison) I don't think so now,, they could stand on their own. Oris while I own a few, or not in the same class nor in most cases in the same price range, as far as quality, I'd lean more towards Breitling and some Omega's. Tudor can stand on their own. Their new BB58 in Silver and Chronographs are perfect examples'. The Pelagos which is older is another, people buy them not because they couldn't get a Submariner. Have one Rolex, an Explorer and all of a sudden it's worth more than I paid, with no intention on selling. While I like Rolex watches, I'm not going into the price, grey market and nutty markups to get one. When you can buy a Moser, for the same price as a Batman, it's nuts.

I’ve been waiting for the AP Code 11:59 with the blue fume dial for four months so far. Ironically, I received my 2021 Sub Date in 75 days. Go figure.

I have a vintage Luch in yellow gold with a green dail which I bought t h r e e years ago. It is my evening wear or for some special occasions.

I only have one green watch but I did get it because it was green (the OP color Rolex discontinued last year).

C you have a clone walking around LA. He’s some British music producer. I see him at soho all the time. I’ll take a pic with him and send it to you ha

@hamealartesto3273

3 жыл бұрын

@Richard Westwood lol

I was partial to blue dialed watches until I saw the sarb 17 then the the green Frederick Constant world timer and whent for it last year. Now it seems to be everywhere.

I like how Omega had the green AT out for a year before the green craze hit. Its a great watch. Sitting on my wrist right now.

@watchesandcaps2566

3 жыл бұрын

Wearing mine today as well.

@Armoer

3 жыл бұрын

Great watch! Moser streamliner was ahead as well

@midas1929

3 жыл бұрын

I call them color mafia. They all work together for fashion trends. There are actual designers and influencers that decide which color will be hip next year. This influences clothing trends, even car colors. Note that also some of the new Audi models had green press cars recently. Swatch Group has a design lab in Milan, they know today what color is fashion next year.Then mood boards and samples are handed out. It's not random or chance.

@Armoer

3 жыл бұрын

@@midas1929 what is ‘maffia’ about that? It has always been that way for centuries. There are always trends that emerge and people/brands that actively play in to that. So what?

@midas1929

3 жыл бұрын

@@Armoer That's meant as a joke.

An Oris Aquis is not the same price range as a new black bay or bb58. Not really a fair comparison at all.

I bought a green orient kamasu 2 years ago, love it but I feel it’s over used in luxury watches these days. Some work some don’t.

Anyone else always hears: "Theo and Hari Swatch Shop"?

No, I completely agree. I’m tired of going on Instagram and seeing people waste their time flipping their watch for a picture. Stick to just making sure your watch is around 10:10 lol

Well, the Tudor design wouldn't exist without Rolex and we are all trained to like the Submariner look hence the success of Tudor. Maybe not the only reason but part of it for shure.

If you think photographing/wearing a watch upside down is bad, I dare you to google leonardo dicaprios tag heuer billboard and not want to bang your head against the table. I dare you, Christian, the curator of Theo and Harris.

You should make a video covering watch brands that have maid their own unique bracelets for their line. Rolex would obviously own the Oyster and Jubilee design so anybody with the same design would not be featured. Tag Heuer makes their "H" link bracelet and the bracelet to their Link watch.

Brilliant! you guys are funny. keep it up. Maybe a green dial Casio 5600.

PLEASE REVIEW the new Tudor Black Bay 58 in 18k gold and green specifically.

Pretty much any spinoff brand, up or down market, is leveraging pedigree to increase market share, ideally without diluting the parent brand. You should have another conversation about the appeal of Tudor NOT being Rolex, cause that's certainly a bonus to me, and I imagine others who are looking for stealthier options. No dig to Rolex, but they're one of the most widely recognized brands on the planet, and that comes with some status baggage that could be appealing or repelling.

I only like what I like cos I like what I like

The biggest issue with Tudor is simply that people get false hope for the “investment value” of the brand because of Rolex’s value. They think Tudor can give them that. It can’t. That’s not the goal of Tudor.

I agree that Tudor's cache is very much tied to Rolex. However, they have some great brand heritage of their own (I love vintage Tudors). I'd guess the "second victory lap" of the Nautilus could include new movement, maybe a redesigned/new look bracelet, and a new reference number beginning with 6. That said, you've been teasing the return of Liquor Run for quite a while to include the Cork strap. My suggestion is that you work hard to close the deal with Rolly's representatives. Word on the street is that the Timepiece Gentleman has upped his latest offer to include a Lamborghini. Please get on it!

Pop the collar. Banger video alert

If l were you two, I'd forget watches and go on the comedy circuit

Hi, this is Tak, who is also not the Curator of the Theo and Harris watch shop, but I make some killer scrambled eggs. Tudor is cool. Tag is not. AP jumped the shark. Green IS good. That is all.

Clicked on this and liked it just from the title alone

Would you buy the AP Black Panther if you're a successful rapper with a young fanbase? Would a Patek & Rolex competitor like the attention and popularity that comes with their watches being worn by musician/pop star millionaires?

Oh boy. Get ready fellas. Lol touching those Tudor nerves

JLC or Nomos or Hamilton create a new watch and they barely get a mention. Tudor publishes the same watch in a new color (a boring blue mind you) and everyone loses their minds. Gee I wonder why that is.

Love green but can't pull off the watches well. Have a Kermit which is great but full on dial is just a lot.

Highly entertaining and free wheeling, philosophical camaraderie . It's an age thing, I now wear my watch 'upside down' it's easier for the medics to check my pulse. (If I was wearing that AP batman monster I would be dead before they could read the time.)