I don't really see anything wrong with this conversion. Then again, I don't care about Khorne stuff at all so I don't know which visual elements this particulat daemon is supposed to have. But as a generic daemon it looks great.

Personally, for me, it doesnt 'fit' as a khorgorath, but, it really feels like a chaos spawn. It looks kind of ridiculous, out of proportion and wildly mutated enough to really fit the lore but still gives off a raw violent vibe. I like it 👍

From out side looking in I like it I think the thing that might be throwing you is you are looking at it by it's self but it with your army and then judge it again

Asimetrical, sphincter mouths and a lobster claw makes it look like a tzeenchian creation with a hint of slanesh. Might be worth shifting the way you think of it and using it a a proxy monster for something else. Looks rly cool though :)

"See if we can find something that stands out." *casually scrolls past motorcycle Khorgorath*

To me however, the conversion was sooo sick. I actually thought if I were an opposing player or a stormcast within the age of sigmar universe - what you did was literally the essence of Chaos. super dope

I think that you made a beautiful spawn aligned with Nurgle, or maybe Tzeentch. The issue might be the sphincter mouths? The Khorgorath has that enormous chest brand(?) of Khorne. Maybe this mini just needs to rep the team colours a bit more? Honestly though, it's gorgeous and works for me 100%.

@RyanEdwardsVA

2 жыл бұрын

I agree - it works for me even as a Khorne thing because of how chaos spawn are, but I think it'd look even better in sickly greens. Those leech/maggot like mouths just scream Nurgle to me.

The Khorgargant looks pretty cool to me. The only change I think I'd go for is bulking out the back of the head with some more fur, so the face blends more in to the shoulders.

The nice thing about chaos is that the subject matter is quite forgiving when it comes down to conversions, imo. I like him :)

This looks awesome, your painting really makes the final model pop. I like it but as others have said beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think we are more critical of our own work that others just don't see the same problems we do

wasn't intended as one, but turned out as a great chaos spawn

This is one of those things that literally drips with "beauty is in the eye of the beholder." If you like it, why does anything need to be changed? If you see the need to change something, why hesitate? While I enjoy watching you build, convert, & paint, I'm not in the field of tinkering with minis like you on this project, but I will say that the left arm looks like it's in an awkward position to me. Other than that, this thing is really cool & awkward left arm or not, it still looks good to me. LOL

Honestly for me I like the overall changes. I like them, the only thing I feel throws off the miniature is the head, the lack of a focal point really throws your eyes off. But this also works as you have several other little conversions which draw your eye. Honestly it's part of our human nature as we understand what we expect. So we expect a face, with eyes and a mouth. When we don't have that it, Our minds find it hard to focus.

@jasonrhome710

2 жыл бұрын

I was just thinking some kind of eyes would help "finish" it.

I absolutely adore the conversion. Really superb.

In many cases, cohesiveness would be important, but this is a Chaos creature, so a little "What The Hell Is That" is fitting.

I really liked the chaotic look to your kitbash. It fit in the lore and feel of the Blades of Khorne army.

It looks great, Casey!

I personally love it! But it is a piece of art, that is many people forget about the hobby is this a form of art. Art is subjective in many instances and what you find pleasing might different from others. I would love to have this model in my chaos army and I'm sure many others would too.

I think you really nailed the big, roided out monster vibe. This feels like a great chaos spawn of Khorne and gives me some Borderlands vibes. There are some places where a splash of extra color might help. The claw on the carnifex crab hand getting the same bone coloration as the horns and nails. Bits of brass to pick out details on the salvaged armor and shields on the back. That would help make those sections pop. As far as the overall conversion? I dig it!

I like the conversion. Thanks for the video and commentary. 🔥🎸🔥

Merry Christmas brother. Funny thing is that this model is what got me into AOS

Every conversion have good and bad things but as long as you like them makes no difference that's what I love about the hobby

Wow. It looks awesome. I love it. I dont know much about the original model but as a unique model I think it is brilliant

What sticks out to me are two things: 1. Though it can be interesting to aesthetically alter a model, there needs to be a bit of story behind it. If it's just 'let's stick parts on it until it works', that can sporadically lead to good things, but generally it puts you in the weeds because you have no real way to judge if what you're doing meets your demands. So even a 'one sentence story' helps. 2. When dealing with models in general: think of what it would look like moving. I know this might sound a bit odd, but this is what general modellers for all kinds of purposes and even professional canvas-painters also do. One trick that would also help here, is taking a picture and mirroring it. Instantly you will see what looks 'off' because your brain is not used to this perspective. If you're working on a specific thing too long, your brain creates a sort of mental image of it/a shortcut, and it'll be really hard to spot even the most obvious things that look off. For this specific conversion: the arm is way too weighty and big, and this is more to do with it's mass than length + the steel plating on it. If this thing 'unfreezes' from being a model, it'll tip right over. Now, you could imagine a creature that uses one arm to walk with, but then the center-mass of the body would be even smaller/less bulky. Now the arm and the body are about the same mass, which just looks strange. And imagine this thing walking using both its arms? Then the smaller one would be way to short to even put both hands on the ground for a sort of 'simian-stroll'. If the fore-arm of the longest one would have been shorter, this would have worked fine.

I love how you learn from your 'mistakes'. Thanks for sharing! I don't care about how it fits in the GW universe, to my eyes... it looks fantastic.

I really enjoy the build/conversion aspect of this hobby the most, and often found myself thinking about having messed up with some "extreme conversions". In fact sometimes I did, but some other I came to the conclusion that maybe we are too conditioned by the factory model dogmas. Creativity is what makes this hobby so awsome, and i guess the only limit is our imagination! I LOVE the Tyranid hive used as a head. Furthermore... It's chaos baby! It hasn't to be perfect, or even humanoid! Amazing job, as always!

I think it looks great, especially the big arm!

I think the only thing off (if there is anything) is the head. The head wants to be nurgle, the rest wants to be Khorne or Tzeench

4:11 oh hey it’s me! Also the conversion is really good looking

I seriously died at the scary movie reference.. "Grab muh strong hand childe"

Ever thought about painting one of these as a surfer? the stock pose is perfect!

Looks really cool to me! 👍😁

Nice chaos creature straight outta portal for the blood god! It totally works for me, ans it would be great on the table!

I think it's absolutely awesome! It still has the same pose and "feel" as the original. But you made it more imposing and more chaos spawny. Which I really like.

Merry Christmas man

At some point I was totally anticipating a headswap with a Kharadron Overlord ship 😂

I like it man.

I had 3 of these beasts. the first one was build in his normal pose. The second one got his arms reposed and he got a elongated neck to change the direction of the head, was easier than i first tought. The thired one was changed into a deamonprince, with wings from an old fantasy ork wyvern + armswap with some leftover bits (right arm with a sword and left one with claws) and a head from the deamonprince kit. These conversions were really fun to make, but i think that's my thing. i love to convert models more than anything else.

I like it! The back is alittle bussy but much better than anything I could do!!

I am always amazed by conversions, but always afraid to do my own, even a simple head swap on my stormcast. Wish there was a conversion 101 video lol

Looks good, do not second guess yourself each piece is a work of art go with the artistic flow.

This video gave me the motivation to bring the knife to my preassembled one and cut off the head and kitbash a new one unto it. Just finished and couldn't be more happy with it.

Can't wait to see what you do with Skaarac. I just bought one so maybe I'll blatantly copy

I like it! Personally, I liked the tiny arm idea, leaning into the weird arm theme is neat.

I think it turned out great! I would personally have chose a smaller arm - this one is damn big but I don´t think it´s -too- big for a warhammer army. The only cc I´d give is to try to incorporate the chain a bit more, either by having some green stuff under it so it can visible dig into the skin, or my painting over it with some kind of texture paint to make it look like it´s been there for a long time. Or both. Great video!

No dude it looks super cool and I think you did a great job

Personally I think it look awesome. Great use of bits with a good end goal.

I actually love the final model, though I do think as you mentioned it could do with more paint and love. If i could suggest something maybe a large boulder or rock in the outstretched giant arm, to look as if its about to be thrown would work really well with the pose! keep up the amazing work though, and failing is always half the fun of miniatures, because you always learn and improve from mistakes. looking forward to the Giant Khorgorath too

it looks a little wild for a khorne demon, looks more like something out of tzeentch, but it looks amazing even the slightly goofy pose on the gargant arm works because it looks like it's going to clothesline someone and that idea makes me smile

I actually really like the way it turned out. The red looks good. I like the massive arm. I think it still is looking like/believable of the model it represents. Things I wonder are what it would look like with orange highlights or orange instead of red but. You really did a great job with the red so. I'd keep it. Oh! He reminds me of the executioner from res 5. Hood and axe just to see and for the lols.

looks nice

The only change that really jumps out to me is cutting and reposing the big arm shoulder to elbow down and sideways and forward then elbow to fist coming back in and up but still forward to make it look like it's uppercutting something on it's scale or delivering a haymaker to send some human scale target flying.

I think it looks badass man

It reminds me of that Warhammer short story about a chaos champion who fails Khorne and is given the mouth of a leech as punishment. Or you could lore it up as the mutated stumps of his neck after his head was cut off.

Nice Build, don't be hard on yourself, Cheers Casey, Regards from DownUnder Bob.

your conversion looks very cool. I like the composon of the big an the smal arms, but i think the pale violet colorsheme would looks better than the martial red skintone. But anyway, you did a good job. i like it.

I love that mini. I'd create a custom monster for Pathfinder 2E or D&D to use it at the table.

It doesn't look bad to me, but I think that there are some points that could be improved on it. The pose doesn't really feel natural for a beast with a giant, oversized arm. Something where it is more dragging on the ground or hanging down to make it have a feeling of weight might be better. You can imagine something like this with that massive limb just heaving it around as it moves, hunched and sluggish as it drags it along. The other thing is probably the face. I like the idea of it, but the sucker mouth look still needs eyes to make it look like a face, and not just some fleshy boils on it's body. Just adding eyes I think might be enough to pull focus to it and make it a more effective face swap. Last thing, I'd probably blend the back with the face swap a little better. It's still a very abrupt divide there between the spawn piece and the models back, even where it seems like work was done to blend it. A few green stuff tentacles or some more fur to smooth that transition point would really go a long way. I think the idea is great, and it looks pretty good overall, but those things just really stood out to me as where you could maybe get this model to where you want it.

The only change I would suggest, literally the only one, to make it more cohesive, would be to make the tentacles around the face the same color as the hair, so it just looks like more hair and feels like a single unit instead of a head smacked onto the hair. Otherwise, I love it! It's somewhere between a Khorgorath and a Chaos Spawn, and it looks great.

I think all it really needs is a stronger focal point. The little tardigrade mouths are a fun idea but they don't grab the eye all that much as they are now. I think if you play around with the forms or colours a bit there to accentuate it, and maybe tweak the colours elsewhere to knock them back a bit, you should have something that really works

@eBayMiniatureRescues

2 жыл бұрын

definitely agree, I think it's really the mouths that are getting me, the face is too important to take away all together.

I absolutely love what you did with the head for sure. Pinchy claws are always a fun addition. Maybe instead of the huge Mega Gargant arm a Ale guzzler Gargant arm would have more to scale.🤔 Me personally I would have gone tentacle instead of the mega Gargant. Very outside-of-the-box thinking on your part. 👍

The arms can be cut off at the shoulder ball, elbow and wrist to re-shape the arms and at hip ankle and feet to reposition the sculpt. A 4000 adjustable speed Dremel with different cutting attachments is what I use to get away from omni posses. Can’t post pic responses here or I’d show you examples.

I really enjoyed your color choices on this model and how the paint job turned out. To my mind, this model does a very good job of embracing the "chaotic spawn" monster look that still feels very combat effective (don't let that thing get the charge in) as opposed to pure warp spawn monster (most of the special effects in The Thing). Sounds like you weren't able to nail down the vision you had in your head. You have how many more models to make the attempt? I'm looking forward to those videos when you're ready to make them. Maybe use some of those old D100 mutation and Chaos gift tables GW did back in the day for inspiration?

Dude, it's frikin bad ass!

Have you ever considered keeping some parts of a model damaged (Eg horns, weapons, etc) to give it more character?

You've not done too bad,I like it.

I think making the small arm a bit more purple from the hand up would be a good detail, and supergluing the chain so it doesnt move around as well. Other than that this model works great, i love out of proportion limbs and the trilobyte mouth looks good. Maybe if it had some greenstuff'd blood and guts drooling from it itd work more, but thats just preference

I love it!

The dinky little human arm really makes me disgusted in a wonderful way, like if I saw that on the table I'd HAVE to slay it just to deal with that little arm. Right away. So, I guess that because you evoked a visceral response with this model, I'd say you've done really well. Awesome.

I find that the best way to convert anything chaos is to just lock your sanity in the drawer and throw on some horror audio books. Lovecraft, Frank Long, Poe and what have you. Nothing like giving your diminishing sanity form. By the way... I loved your conversion! That's the kind of thing that drew me to Chaos to being with, the weird, the out there and the utterly terrifying and bizarre.

I like the action pose he has, like hes about to strike. But imo this beast would get tired sometimes from raising his big grabber, and might just let it drag behind him picking up a few scrapes and dirt along the way. A good idea would be to show the dirt and weathering on the underside of the big arm. I know you make the terrain sorta consistent with the whole army so obviously it needs a home before slapping but directional rips and cuts would make him stand out

I like the disproportionate aspect; looks like a great chaos spawn.

I actually really like it as it is!

@Morrodin182

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I agree. Ah well, I guess artists are their own greatest critics.

I think a touch of brass would add to the effect. Maybe some skulls on the base? Looks pretty good to me as is.

I think a great kitbash would be to make that back arm hold up some sort of daemon relic, like a bell if it's a nurgle conversion.

The description of the Khorgorath states that it is something that Khorne does to beasts. I think it would be cool to find a oversized sabretooth miniature, and add the khorgorath parts to it.

i would change the color of the tentacles probably. maybe if u apply purple ink on the shades, for example with an airbrush from below, u can paint the tentacles more fleshy with violet shades

Suggestions :One of the mouths needs to become an eye. Around the mouths the mane (for want of a better description) needs more greenstuff round it to merge with the top of the body

Ah my Khorgorath at 5:30 bottom right :) pretty standard, but didnt want to veer too far away from the regular khorne scheme :D

I think overall its interesting and fun, but i really think with the oversized humanoid arm it needed a humanoid head, so that those two parts of the model are tied together, the viewers focus is pulled to that giant arm but it (for me anyway) feels like the eye just brushes over the weird toothy-mouth-face looking for the a humanoid face subconsciously. Without that face it feels less 'monster' and more 'thing'. I think monsters work best when they dont stray too far from 'character' into 'amorphous horror'. I'd actually be really curious to see what it would look like with two twisted/agonized humanoid heads super-imposed over the tooth-orfaces,so it looks like some humanoid thats horribly splitting into two beings, or maybe two humanoid monsters slowly, painfully merging together. Anyway, really fun video man! loved it.

I love the big arm but the khorn head instead of the old nid sack and just the little arm xD

I love it, truly chaotic

Looks great man. I'd buy it if it was a kit lol.

I dont see what you see, obviously. I think it looks great. It's a chaos model, it's supposed to be weird. I think maybe blue and pink tzeench colors would maybe fit it better as a mutant spawn or something, but I really like it. I am trying to do some necron/tyranid hybrids, and they don't look nearly so coherent as this did.

honestly, I dont know much about the Khorgorath or Khorn in general, but I will say that I think it works for me. Its the a crazy mess, but isnt that what Chaos armies are all about. But again, I dont know much about that army or its lore. I would say, you could use that in D&D as a frankenstiens monster type creature, but as for AOS I think that its kinda cool and would be an interesting model to put down on the table. Maybe you could explain it with some sort of mad scientist unit that experiments of humans, turning them in these creatures. Sometimes it goes horrible wrong, but the war must go on... I dont know, I am just spitballing...lol. Anyways, I enjoyed the video and hope that you figure out what works for you in the next one. Good luck and keep it up.

Idk I love the conversation. I think you did a great job

I think the model is an awesome idea, and I really like the paint. The posture is what makes it a little off, in my opinion. You could make it so he has his big fist in the ground, kinda like a gorilla. It would help with the balance at it would be an awesome and menacing posture!

Honestly it’s just the head that throws it off for me, the tentacle collar that surrounds the butthole mouths is really the only thing that should change, maybe remove that and use some green stuff to blend it into the body, add some veins or muscle fibers and I think it would look pretty damn stellar, either way in my opinion everything else on it looks really good and fits pretty well together.

I like the results, especially if you consider it to be some sort of giant Chaos spawn or having mutated uncontrolled in some other way.

The huge difference in hand sizes is the thing that throws me off the most. If his big hand is 'correct' he feels relatively tiny, if his little hand is correct, he'd be huge. Now he's both at the same time. The longer arms and chaos spawn bits work for me. I could see just losing the gargant hand and swapping it for something a bit more to scale.

Thing with chaos is anything is possible, if you can find some old White Dwarfs, I mean old like issues 110-199 for some old school chaos conversions the weirder the better. Either play it as a chaos spawn or put some wings on it and play it as a demon Prince of Khorne. I preferred your first paint job more, but the Khorne scheme looks good as well.

I think it's dope. I love weird tho. Only thing I'd add is a belt or bandolier of human heads, arms, etc.

It looks really cool except for the giant arm. I could see it dragging behind the mini or like gripping the edge of the base might look really dynamic, but is a pose going to be enough to fix the size discrepancy?

i made a khorne prince with big bat wings blood thirster head then i took the khorne bone logo banner (from blood revers )fitted it with tghe top of his horns so it looks like his horns twist into the khorne logo then i got the 2 handed blood thirster axe cut the old arms off replaced them with the axe then used hell brute shoulder pads to cover most of the gaps then i uses super glue mixed with sprues to fill the rest of the gap used the under carriage of a skull cannon as chest armor then wrapped the axe in chains and bam custom daemon prince still one of my best conversions

A dripping blood effect from the… uh… sphincters, would probably help tie that part in more, as that stands out the most. The arms are perfect for Khorne.

I think it looks really nice, maybe not as khorgorath but nice none the less

In my opinion the head is where it goes wrong. Perhaps a larger head or two of some type would sell it more as a better kitbash. I would try a modified minotaur, bloodthirster or blood letter head or or two. Making it look like a smaller creature splitting away from the larger one hence the tiny arm.

@eBayMiniatureRescues

2 жыл бұрын

agreed!

Haha so strange to randomly see my own model here at 4:20 :D

This model evoke some strong vibes about Manus father of the abyss, from the Dark souls series, which is a win in my book ^^

I think it looks awesome and Warhammery. I don't know jack about AoS lore, but this definitely looks like it fits the game.