You can re-use your dead out frames!!

Үй жануарлары мен аңдар

Don’t throw away good resources! If your bees did NOT die of a brood related disease and simply died out over the winter, you can use most of the frames again! Honey was put there by the bees, it’s ready for them to use!!
Know your diseases, feel confident to use your resources wisely!

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  • @richardnoel3141
    @richardnoel31412 ай бұрын

    Hi Scott, the honey and wax are melted down the honey sinks to the bottom of the bucket, the wax floats on the top and cools and hardens. the honey can be fed to your bees if you know your frames were disease free. if not you can dispose of the honey over waste ground it will break down. some beekeepers gove the honey to farmers who give it to their livestock in their feed. its just sugar after all!

  • @caterthun4853
    @caterthun48533 жыл бұрын

    Don't be sad when you loose a colony. Be happy you are gaining equipment.

  • @kellyellingson2335
    @kellyellingson23353 жыл бұрын

    Definitely a great way to boost a colony with those resources after inspecting the frames and determining there is no disease. I myself, freeze the frames for a couple days as an added precaution. Great video and all the best in 2021!

  • @laziacoff503
    @laziacoff5033 жыл бұрын

    Lovely. Thanks for posting.

  • @thuffman44
    @thuffman443 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video as usual! Here in my region of southwest Florida, USA the greater wax moth (Galleria mellonella Linnaeus) as well as the lesser wax moth (Achroia grisella Fabricius) thrive year-round here. Maintaining a consistent inspection routine can be challenging. All those frames with drawn comb are such valuable resources!! I really hate it when I discover a dead-out which is beyond reuse.

  • @atanasijtraykovski3102
    @atanasijtraykovski31023 жыл бұрын

    @Richard Noel I agree with you! 100%! I’m doing this for 6 years and everything is going well. This frames are pure gold for this time of the year.

  • @nmhoneyandbees5117
    @nmhoneyandbees51173 жыл бұрын

    Hello again, yep, I totally agree with you, why waist the resources, I do exactly the same thing, I judge it on a frame by frame dead hive by dead hive, if I have any doubts, then I don't, I have had plenty of other Beekeepers saying that I shouldn't do it, and give loads of reasons, but on the flip side, I also have others who agree, anyway enough of that, best of luck in the coming season

  • @CanadianTropica
    @CanadianTropica3 жыл бұрын

    I'm not sure why there is some hype around destroying used frames either, they are completely fine with the obvious disease checks done. I have frames that are 7 years old that i have just scraped and melted and they were still fine with no diseases present or really a reason to melt down but i figured it was time. Frame rotation is important but a dead out can be an opportunity for a new hive to grow. I see a day with 8c coming to Ontario Canada here, cant wait for it so i can check my bees. Thanks for the continued effort with the videos Richard, always good quality.

  • @OllysFarm
    @OllysFarm3 жыл бұрын

    Nice one Richard, lovely looking nuc! still far too cold here for that

  • @PutEmInTheBox
    @PutEmInTheBox3 жыл бұрын

    Bees look great richard

  • @tomkley441
    @tomkley4413 жыл бұрын

    Wow, amazing nuc Richard ! I was wondering if you noticed a difference last spring with the queens you feed pollen patties. Did you/will you do it this year? If so do you have a receipe to share? I was thinking that it cool help weaker colonies.

  • @mountainmystic1
    @mountainmystic12 ай бұрын

    How do you separate the honey from the comb from the frames you pulled to melt down and what do you do with that honey?

  • @sonofthunder.
    @sonofthunder.3 жыл бұрын

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  • @dgoodhoney3000
    @dgoodhoney30003 жыл бұрын

    Sir do, that is the thing aka "Seppie" thanks for sharing 🙏.

  • @mitchelwayne5534
    @mitchelwayne55343 жыл бұрын

    You mentioned caging the queen do you have a talk about that?

  • @benjamindejonge3624
    @benjamindejonge36243 жыл бұрын

    Keep us informed

  • @richardfaivre3896
    @richardfaivre38963 жыл бұрын

    Hello, have you ever use Apifeed (pollen sub) ? Or do you know somebody who use this product ?

  • @larrypatterson326
    @larrypatterson3263 жыл бұрын

    Good morning I am Larry Patterson from the state of Washington US And I am wondering why your melting down the frames with dead brood and with mold. Won't they just clean them up and use them anyways. Thank you for your answer have a very good day

  • @russellkoopman3004

    @russellkoopman3004

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's what I've been taught. I have seen some chewed up frames from wax moths put back into a hive and they cleaned them up within a few days.

  • @pottyplotter2462
    @pottyplotter24623 жыл бұрын

    Hope your going to cover mite control during queen rearing tomorrow, it's the one issue I'm not sure of.🐝🐝🐝

  • @richardnoel3141

    @richardnoel3141

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry there is just no time for that! I am having trouble squeezing in the meat of quern rearing!

  • @bub1683
    @bub16833 жыл бұрын

    old pollen, do they consume it? And how mutch mould can they clean out?

  • @kaistumer198

    @kaistumer198

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lots, as long as the hive is healthy. They will chew of the comb around bad pollen and then rebuild the comb. If the pollen is fine, no worries, they will eat it

  • @Thurlows
    @Thurlows3 жыл бұрын

    You could bee hiring a film crew this time next year as no time to film or a film company should make a documentary about your style 🤩💓👍🏼

  • @tomkingsley4398
    @tomkingsley43983 жыл бұрын

    Richard, I saw you are using tires for a hive stand. Do you have a problem with them collecting water inside or being a place for mice to nest? I really like the idea just wondering if you made modifications that were not visible. Thanks

  • @caterthun4853

    @caterthun4853

    3 жыл бұрын

    Used tyres in past. Number of times when lifted snake and slow worms fell out..

  • @ChristiansQuoted
    @ChristiansQuoted2 жыл бұрын

    Can we use frames with dead brood and put it into another beehive? Strong or weaker colonies?

  • @richardnoel3141

    @richardnoel3141

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Tom you can do but it’s generally not considered good practice. If there is a little bit of brood on some of the frames and you’re happy that they died of a viral related issue or they start is absolutely no problem at all just be sure that the brood is clean. You can use an uncapping fork the same would use for uncapping Honey and open up the cells and it is dead and I’ll be is inside you know that the bees died of no brood diseases were generally I don’t really use actual brood frames that have dead brood in and it’s just too much work for the Bees.

  • @muratgokirmak8398
    @muratgokirmak83983 жыл бұрын

    If bee hives are 30 cm above the ground in humid places, CO2 and excess moisture can easily escape from the beehive. If it is too close to the ground, moisture and CO2 combine and turn into carconic acid. It creates a suitable environment for nosema cerena.

  • @allenkracower4787
    @allenkracower47873 жыл бұрын

    How do you melt down frames?

  • @campdavidsonfunctionaltrai8583
    @campdavidsonfunctionaltrai85833 жыл бұрын

    I like the feeder block. Europe only?

  • @johnmorgan9435
    @johnmorgan94353 жыл бұрын

    Richard, thanks for the vlog. What about Nosema C.?

  • @russellkoopman3004

    @russellkoopman3004

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't you see the diarrhea and stains on the frames? Isn't Nosema C in all bees to some level and stress makes it deadly?

  • @johnmorgan9435

    @johnmorgan9435

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@russellkoopman3004 the symptoms you have described are seen when Nosema Apis is present. The colony we say in the vlog exhibited similar symtoms to Nosema Ceranae being possibly present.

  • @richardnoel3141

    @richardnoel3141

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi John there is always that risk and in test we have done we have e not seen any numbers of spores. I do know that the other type of nosema can be virtually invisible until your colony is dead. It can infect the queens too. All my colonies have had a thymol treatment in the sirop which is a good help against nosema anyway, so we have to move forward. I have never had any issues with using good clean honey frames. We always inspect throughout the year. Brood nest frames that are more than 2/3 years are automatically melted down ! Our brood nests are always changed with in 3 years! There is only so far you can go in being cautious. When your Profesional you need all the resources you can find. Thank you for your comment/question!.

  • @frankspataro9714
    @frankspataro97143 жыл бұрын

    I reuse mine that look just like that and have real good luck you plug three frames of bees into center of that box I bet they take off rocking atleast mine always seen to do I also put a swarm in a box like that and they will take off like you couldn't believe I use mine in all did ways without trouble

  • @muratgokirmak8398
    @muratgokirmak83983 жыл бұрын

    I saw very similar deaths in Turkey in Thrace. we sent bee samples to the university. the result is nosema cerena. Moisture-loving mold pathogen.

  • @3Beehivesto300
    @3Beehivesto3003 жыл бұрын

    Do you have pictures of Bob and Fanny?

  • @graemediesel2936
    @graemediesel29363 жыл бұрын

    Bob is my uncle but no aunt Fanny. did have a great grandmother Fanny though... 😀

  • @muratgokirmak8398
    @muratgokirmak83983 жыл бұрын

    My advice clean frames.120 ml acetic acid 80% each deep.

  • @irishbee3632
    @irishbee36323 жыл бұрын

    Hi Richard. You can check dead bees for varroa. But I don't personally think that is the reason. I think it's because there was no enough young bees going in to winter and prolonged brood period. Do you remember how much brood you had there at the end of September? Regard, Andrew

  • @richardnoel3141

    @richardnoel3141

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Andrew, yes I agree, the problem I think is not enough young bees going in to the winter. We are seeing patterns in apiaries with high incidence rates of Asian Hornets predation but in fact we think it’s not this it’s the bees not coming back with food and messages to the colony (this is a colony disruption problem.)The whole colony is put under stress and the queen stops laying! Not enough bees to survive the winter 🤷🏼‍♂️ I can’t really see it being much else. I have given all my bees an autumn thymol treatment in their sirop in case it may be high incidence of nosema but there was little or no evidence of this prior to treatment. Apiaries that we’re well trapped against hornets seem to be great! But it’s still not completely conclusive.

  • @essaios_.8330

    @essaios_.8330

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@richardnoel3141 you cant relly on thymol syrop only for nosema treatment. Your bees must brood on pollen flow before winter comes.

  • @bigadg
    @bigadg3 жыл бұрын

    I have some frames with mould on them,will the bees clean them up or should i melt them down

  • @robertswan9434

    @robertswan9434

    3 жыл бұрын

    They'll clean them up! If they are exceptionally moldy just freeze them for a couple of days, then give them to a strong colony and in a week or two you'll likely be unable to tell the frames apart.

  • @bigadg

    @bigadg

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@robertswan9434 Thankyou

  • @simonblakeway559
    @simonblakeway5593 жыл бұрын

    Richard, you've just caused 100's of BBKA members to choke on their gammon!!

  • @richardnoel3141

    @richardnoel3141

    3 жыл бұрын

    May be! Like I said in the video we’re going hygiène crazy..not knowing brood diseases is an excuse for melting down everything!!! I know these bees did not die of anything other than varroa or hornet pressure causing no hew brood in the autumn. The evidence is clear in my nucs that are thriving on spare “clean” frames of honey. It’s time to use resources more wisely!! Melting down everything “just in case” isn’t sustainable or being careful it’s poor training and ignorance personified!!!

  • @simonblakeway559

    @simonblakeway559

    3 жыл бұрын

    I do exactly the same as you. Melt down the black frames and reuse the good ones where no sign of brood disease. I run just over a 100 colonies and not had a brood disease or significant unexplained losses so can't be a serious issue. Keep up the good work! :-)

  • @RippleAffect
    @RippleAffect3 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe they're not being robbed out

  • @jamilacra5161
    @jamilacra51613 жыл бұрын

    Caging your quees to treat with oxalic acid or amitraz?

  • @richardnoel3141

    @richardnoel3141

    3 жыл бұрын

    Caging queens to give a brood break for 24 days to then give Vaporised Oxyalic Acid treatments to Phoretic mites. They are technically all Phoretic after 24 days

  • @jamilacra5161

    @jamilacra5161

    3 жыл бұрын

    Doesnt this procees weaken the hive? Since no new bees emerging?

  • @jamilacra5161

    @jamilacra5161

    3 жыл бұрын

    Technically 24 days no new eggs laying and another 24 days to het new emerging brood after the queen starts laying.

  • @richardnoel3141

    @richardnoel3141

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jamilacra5161 you could argue yes but it’s only fir the brief 24 days the fact you remove all thé varroa from the colony is a much better outlook for the colony. Your winter bees are born with no virus’s. Your queen lays better and the colony becomes very healthy and vibrant!

  • @richardnoel3141

    @richardnoel3141

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jamilacra5161 yes that’s correct

  • @paulbuiks1308
    @paulbuiks13083 жыл бұрын

    or disease/sickness

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