You can actually use this in the sun - Sun Vision rE rLCD Display
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0:00 Intro
1:18 What the heck is this?
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As a live audio engineer, I could see this being useful. Most functions on modern digital consoles are part of the screen. When we do outdoor festivals, it is very difficult to see the display. Even with a tent or canopy the display can be unusable.
@MrPruske
24 күн бұрын
🎉
@PendragonDaGreat
24 күн бұрын
I do live audio as well, I'd love to see a hybrid display like this. Where it has a front light like a Kindle e-reader or that other e-ink display they mentioned. That way it can simulate sunlight (I guess like a GBA-SP). Because agreed outdoor midday shows absolutely impossible at times. But once the sun goes down, or if you're doing an indoor show, the Achilles heel of "needs light to function" becomes apparent, and the little goosenecks on most desks may not be enough. Just add a toggle near the screen so you can turn on the light when needed, or turn it off when you don't.
@Rararawr
24 күн бұрын
Still seems like an incomplete solution for that. Once it gets dark, or even the sun no longer in a position to reflect off the monitor at you, you're just gonna need a different display.
@WilliamOgden
24 күн бұрын
@@PendragonDaGreat yeah I think you have the right idea here It would need to be some sort of hybrid solution
@blairhoughton7918
24 күн бұрын
Yeah this is for functional usage, not high fidelity creative graphic stuff. There's probably a way to adapt it to automotive displays with a complementary light for when the sun isn't on it.
It handles sunlight better than 90% of reddit mods
@elgoblinospark2949
24 күн бұрын
ikr
@kbhasi
24 күн бұрын
Yep! (thinks about when my post got removed and the moderator refused to explain why beyond the name of the rule they clicked on)
@mopman9264
24 күн бұрын
only 90% ?!
@Gobbbbb
24 күн бұрын
You're being too generous.
@YTKeepsDeletingAllMyComments
24 күн бұрын
@@kbhasiI got banned for hate speech when I said nothing at all. It was eventually overturned but yeah, get banned for absolutely nothing !
10:20 goddamn, I spit out my breakfast
10:27 bruh who wrote THAT joke I didn’t expect that anywhere 💀💀💀💀
@Supervhizor
24 күн бұрын
the ghost of anthony
@battalionstallion3894
24 күн бұрын
emily or jake or any of their friends on the writing team
@Titin5123
15 күн бұрын
Someone who doesn't live in Florida or even the US
@MajorasWrath1
7 күн бұрын
@@Titin5123I live in the USA and they're right.
Useful for outdoor events if you need an admin desk for accounting, sign-ins for attendees, and payment processing
@metaleuman
24 күн бұрын
A 32 inch screen ?
@alexatkin
24 күн бұрын
But then it would be more useful on a tablet, ideally a waterproof one.
@richardprice5978
24 күн бұрын
car's dashboard as i don't always want back-lighting and or blindingly senter but also don't see the need in the modern era for 20 mechanical gages anymore other than for fantasy design as functional can be handled better with minimal gages+buttons and screen's
@Dlutheran
24 күн бұрын
@@richardprice5978yeah but what about at night?
@TheOriginalFaxon
24 күн бұрын
Also for the audio-video engineers. someone has to manage the projection maps and the DSP mixer on the audio stack at your festival, even during the daytime.
the only screen where a lightbar makes sense!
@deswill2737
24 күн бұрын
a lightbar makes sense either way since it lights up your desk and uses less power than lighting the room
@CanIHasThisName
24 күн бұрын
Lightbars are designed in such a way that they don't hit the screen. So they're useless for this.
@TheHammerGuy94
24 күн бұрын
@@CanIHasThisNameLinus has always thought they were stupid since "Why would you want to light up the screen when it already has a backlight???" well, they are actually Desk lights that use your monitor as the mount. they are supposed to light up the desk. and give your eyes less strain as they brighten your desk space in general. But you can angle them to also point at the screen if you want.
@CanIHasThisName
24 күн бұрын
@@TheHammerGuy94 I'm aware, it took quite a while for someone to finally explain it to him (haven't seen him make that remark in a long while, so I'm assuming someone did). To be fair though, many people have the same misconception, so it's not a difficult mistake to make. And he still has a point that they're ridiculously expensive even considering the specific temperature, especially since most of them only illuminate the front, not the back (shining a light at the wall behind the monitor is often the most effective way of preventing eye strain).
@LRM12o8
24 күн бұрын
@CanIHasThisName lol, I too thought they were for lighting up the screen 😅 And yeah, I agree, lighting up the wall behind the monitor is great (probably better to prevent eye strain. I have a RGB strip on the back of my desk that lights up the wall. I installed it for looks (and because it was left over from a previous project), but it I quickly noticed that it really makes computing in the dark more comfortable.
Honestly, I've done a lot of fabrication stuff, I can totally see this being really useful. There are a ton of various outdoor events, worksites, and even just general inspections in which having a Nuk style computer hooked up to one of these screens connected via an extension cord would be absolutely amazing for just general diagnostics. ((Also there's a bunch of fishing events that record all their weights on the computer and I always see them just bending over squinting at the screen as they try and see it))
@nimmawibba9874
23 күн бұрын
Yes but charging 1500 to essentially remove features and only be 1080p+60hz is genuinely outrageous
Dude doesn't understand how much outdoor workers need this. Same for ads could be seen during the wouldn't emit light at night. And as other people said remote working in your garden, terrasse, balcony, patio or at the beach... My wife would have love that screen last week.
Me when the video started: "So it's a GameBoy?" The video 2 seconds later: "Yep, it's a GameBoy"
@user-ec3rm9wr1n
24 күн бұрын
😩😒
@saysbadman
24 күн бұрын
GameBoy Color!
@Runslik3Wind
24 күн бұрын
lol same here, was like oh its a gameboy cool. people forget how viewable the gbc was when sitting out in the yard.
@weeveferrelaine6973
24 күн бұрын
@@Runslik3Wind And the battery life was wild. You could take shitty alkaline batteries and game for hundreds of hours on them. So much of my childhood was spent with my waiting times at the buss stop or sneaking some pokemon play at night on my GBC (which I still have). Really incredible tech and games for the time, that are still fairly impressive.
@ClassicGamer2996
24 күн бұрын
I thought the same
Due to ultraviolet dyes mixed in, the sheet of paper actually "reflects" more (visible) light than initially hit it. The dye converts some invisible light into visible light, so you see more light.
@Shaflugi
24 күн бұрын
That's rad.
@lua-nya
24 күн бұрын
That explains how stupidly white that paper is.
@JinKee
24 күн бұрын
How do we get so many bullets in them? Like this! Plus, we fire the whole bullet. That's 65% more bullet per bullet. This is the same technology we've been using on robots for decades. Scares the hell out of them. They come in hundreds of designer colors including forest, desert, table, evening at the improv... what idiot picked the...
@ganzeige
23 күн бұрын
So you are basically saying, the display would be brighter under sunlight, if theyd had used a sheet of paper as their reflective layer?
@comeradecoyote
23 күн бұрын
Optical brighteners strike again
lmao the "dissapear faster than a book about gender in a Florida library" caught me off guard :3
@Rainbow_Atlas
20 күн бұрын
Really did xD
I worked in Ag-Tech for years, and man, I wish I had a display like this for all my readouts in the field. Would've mad e a huge difference when giving demos and pretty much all the other work I had to do from my truck.
Actual use case - live events, like music festivals where sound and lighting techs need to see screens. Also, astrophotographers who do a lot of solar imaging - that's something I personally do and seeing the screen is one of the hardest parts about doing it.
@willofthewind
24 күн бұрын
I work in live events and second this... but it would need to also have a backlight that could be enabled during dark conditions to really be worth using.
@oldbuddyolpal9859
24 күн бұрын
Audio engineer isn't going to want to sit in the sun
@kretieg
24 күн бұрын
I have a custom 16" Dobsonian. The nosebleed cost of tunable Ha filters under 4 angstrom keeps me confined to nighttime use. That's fine. Galaxy's, clusters bot spherical and open, planets, moons. Yes. Moons.
@BBROPHOTO
24 күн бұрын
@@kretieg haha yes, Ha scopes / tuneable filters are crazy expensive. I generally only do deep sky with a newtonian monochrome camera setup. I only do casual white light solar imaging which is good fun, but the difficulties of seeing the screen are still very real.
@calebjonathan25
24 күн бұрын
@@willofthewind At 12:12, he explains that frontlighting is available on SVD's outdoor signage -- just not included on the monitor due to customer preference.
4:16 I'ts really funny to note that aside from text it "doesn't look that good" when, in that lighting, it looks about 1000x better than the monitor right next to it because you can actually see it clearly.
@zen6591
24 күн бұрын
he clarifies that in 20 seconds
10:24 ain't no way he said that
@djnazgra
24 күн бұрын
But he did. Lol
@Ferno209
24 күн бұрын
I laughed so hard when he said it cause its true! Florida is next level stupid
@ARandomInternetUser08
24 күн бұрын
@@kieraisverybored speak for yourself, 🤡🤡
@osborne3
24 күн бұрын
@@Ferno209 Probably don't want books on leftist illusions about gender, directed towards kids. But still shouldn't be banned from public libraries, if that's the case.
@MannyHaarp
24 күн бұрын
I almost spat my coffee in laughter
I mean this to be constructive, as someone who watches all your videos on a tv with surround sound or computer with reference speakers and subwoofer. Can you please apply a high pass filter, often you guys have some errant low frequencies bouncing around, this video has it around 5 minutes (wind on the lavalier I'm sure). Love your channel
@tschuuuls486
23 күн бұрын
You probably should email them and ask for the email to be forwarded, if you care enough :D
OLED, nah I have SUNLED
@Gamepadder
24 күн бұрын
😂
@Nate-bd8fg
24 күн бұрын
"LED" stands for Light Emitting Display. So maybe SRD? Sun reflecting display?
@Pib31995
24 күн бұрын
@@Nate-bd8fg LED stands for Light Emitting Diode
@Nate-bd8fg
24 күн бұрын
@@Pib31995 ah shit you rite
@stratosvomvos
24 күн бұрын
How did this comment get 340 likes, my whole channel got 23 ( wut)
Another use case for a monitor like this could be on job sites that use BIM software. Contractors on site can get updated drawings that are displayed on a computer monitor that typically needs to be in a dim area so they can be read. This display could help make those drawing stations more accessible on job sites.
@alexatkin
24 күн бұрын
But that's more what their original signage monitors would be ideal for, given they're waterproof and presumably built to take a beating. I just can't figure how this kind of screen in a traditional monitor package is useful.
@a-aron2276
24 күн бұрын
Updated drawings😂😂 good one!!
@bakto2122
24 күн бұрын
Do you work with BIM? I don't really work in the field, but have heard a bit about it (mostly from my dad who works on civil engineering projects). From what I've heard it seems like unneeded complexity without any benefit. I would love to hear someone's opinion who actually works with BIM.
@Makerr8
24 күн бұрын
@@bakto2122 from what I have seen (architecture side) its only used by firms who have all of their consultants already using revit/BIM so it makes sense or if there is a project that is very complicated and needs better coordination between the structural engineer's drawings and the MEP's drawings. Other than that its not used much because it costs too much to have everyone on board.
@Roko-jb5hl
24 күн бұрын
Some company made an RLCD android tablet not long ago, . That would perfect for job sites.
This monitor means that I can now sit outside to take my meetings instead of sitting inside in a dark cube all day. It's a bit pricey, but if it gets any cheaper I'll buy one for sure. Imagine having one of these at the beach
@knabbagluon
24 күн бұрын
this. I don't understand how nobody here seems to want this. I really hate working so much in the dark when outside is nice weather.
@calebjonathan25
23 күн бұрын
That is an excellent use case! The RLCD monitor opens some big doors for people who want to bring their office outside to bright environs where backlit tech is very limited.
@comeradecoyote
23 күн бұрын
Thats honestly not a half bad idea. Outdoor office. Idk how comfortable the display would be in some lighting conditions. But slap your pc on a cart or stand, with an outlet strip, monitor, and webcam, and you could work in the backyard easily. Or a screened in porch. Kinda reminds me how some writers used to take their typewriter out on a nice day. They even offered typewriter cases with tripods, for working while travelling or at baseball games or w/e.
@Gorlami90
23 күн бұрын
Who takes a pc to the beach?
@tobihalo2
23 күн бұрын
You don't bring your gaming PC to the beach??@@Gorlami90
This would be great for saving battery in a laptop when outside, but you'd also want the option to toggle a backlight for inside
@Crand0m
24 күн бұрын
I need this with usb-c output
@iurigrang
24 күн бұрын
I was thinking about a toggleable backlight, but this probably has to be calibrated such that the image looks right when passing through the color filters twice, which would make the backlight image washed out when compared to the reflected image. This probably would make contrast still highly dependent on ambient light
@aebisdecunter
24 күн бұрын
The problem is in the diffusion layers. This monitor is dimm already in everything but daylight, so adding several another layers would make unusable even in overcast. As I see it, you either have RLCD with *front* light or you'd need a switchable diffusion or mirror layers. Another option is to go with Quantum dots, since they could convert the light from the front and from the back.
@Dr.Spatula
24 күн бұрын
Backlight? Build a front light into the bottom of the laptop
@CromulentEmbiggening
24 күн бұрын
Or a frontlight toggle like the first GBA-SP
It would have been great to show an old game boy game emulated on it XD
@user-ec3rm9wr1n
24 күн бұрын
Well sigh .....
@Unknown_Genius
24 күн бұрын
That'd 100% end worse. As much as I remember being annoyed that I did need light to use it, I definitely don't remotely remember it being that dark unless you were sitting next to tree in the shadow while the sun was almost entirely gone.
I "Finally" Understand why Benq makes those display top-down lights.
I've compiled a list of all 5 RLCD monitors out there. Great review btw. Love your enthusiasm.
Playing a Horror game with a flashlight headband would be hilarious
@mz-power9587
24 күн бұрын
That's actually such a great idea
@not_creative_with_username3834
24 күн бұрын
Damn!!! that would be sick!
at 6:17 a wild Taran Appeared.... cool to see him around LTT videos even after that tearfull goodbye
@AltonV
24 күн бұрын
It's a clip from an old video
@benjamin_lincoln
24 күн бұрын
@@AltonV 🤯🤯
@StFilip89
24 күн бұрын
Haha, I was looking for comment about Taran.
Glad LTT started reviewing eye care displays, since I always had wanted major reviews of them before buying mine. I use this and some E Ink screens to reduce eye strain, and in conjunction with Miebo, it's done wonders for my headaches. I use a nearby window to fully illuminate my screen. I do wish more of their major monitor reviews mentioned eye care however. It's hard to tell how much flicker and things like that can effect you with a normal monitor until you buy one.
as a sound engineer who does mainly outdoor festivals, I can see this being handy for daytime events. would be good for lighting too, but I normally am not doing fancy enough lights during daytime to need more monitors than whats built in to an MA
“Makes greys disappear faster than a book about gender in a Florida library” damn, didn’t expect such hot topics to come out of ltt, still a funny joke
@donc-m4900
24 күн бұрын
10:19 Linus canceled in 3, 2, 1. Lol
@no_skcaj1038
24 күн бұрын
Ltt is great
@Hakai_ryu
24 күн бұрын
I would have spit my drink out if I had taken a sip right before then.
@sylvester4207
24 күн бұрын
What a fantastic joke lmaoo
@fab1604
24 күн бұрын
Based DeSantis
I can see that type of display in say a laptop meant to be used outdoors, like construction areas. But only if it has the option for a back light when used indoors.
@alexatkin
24 күн бұрын
Its just weird in a monitor form factor, like you said it makes more sense in a laptop or tablet, ideally a waterproof ruggedised one.
@stevecole90099
24 күн бұрын
It would be great if they could pair this with a backlight to get the best of both. Imagine a smartphone that could just disable its backlight outside and still get 2000 nits on the screen while also improving battery life but still has the backlight for use when inside. Same for laptops, tablets, and handhelds.
@vadnegru
24 күн бұрын
Something similar used in my Amazfit Bip. Problem is that not many colours are displayed. But i can confirm, it works both ways
@CromulentEmbiggening
24 күн бұрын
Or a frontlight like the GBA SP early model. I don't know if the reflective back is compatible with backlighting or it probably would've been done in the later GBA models
This would make an amazing screen for a drone controller as well as the many other used mentioned in the comments. That's just one that immediately stood out to me
This video suffers lower viewership, demonstrating KZread viewership means nothing, because this one was FANTASTIC. One of the best videos as of late.
The power of the sun IN THE PALM OF MY HANDS!
@Narinjas
24 күн бұрын
He can have a small dimmable projector at the right angle to have maximum control over this monitor... but i am a vampire so i never stay in the light...
@ilovefunnyamv2nd
24 күн бұрын
"in the palm of my hand" I understood that reference, both the wan show, and Doc Ock
@sethbingo
24 күн бұрын
Ladies and gentlemen, fasten your seatbelts
Now the light bar everyone putting on top of their screens makes so much more sense actually!
Would be interested to see something like this combined with some kind of edge lighting for outdoor use. Feels like that could keep it usable in a lot of scenarios
want one! very difficult to read displays in the greenhouses without shade boxes. This would make that way more flexible.
@calebjonathan25
23 күн бұрын
Absolutely!
this would be perfect for outside shows in audio visual for computer system that are needed to control lighing and or audio where a reguler lcd would fail
"the lack of contrast can make distinct shades of gray disappear faster than a book about gender in a florida library" holy SHIT linus
@Alex-zi1nb
24 күн бұрын
epic joke
@sennevanopdorp2022
24 күн бұрын
I heard this quote and omg
@moo5613
24 күн бұрын
HES SO REAL FOR THAT
@jooroth18
24 күн бұрын
As a florida resident I almost spit out my drink when i heard that lmao
@emmaknijn
24 күн бұрын
I love it
There is a tablet made with the same type of reflective LCD tech, but the cool thing is that along with the reflective LCD layer, it also has a layer of LEDs on top facing the panel so that it can be used indoors.
@TheAkashicTraveller
23 күн бұрын
Which is wierd to me because transflective LCDs exist, or existed not sure, which are both reflective and have a backlight.
@cj.wijtmans
22 күн бұрын
@@TheAkashicTraveller its probably not as good as a pure reflective layer. It will make more sense to put light on it from the front
Can't wait for Dasung Paperlike color review! And thank you for reviewing this one!
10:20 Ohhhh nooo, you didn't Linus...
@itr00ow93
24 күн бұрын
they're laughing in Canadian probably :p
@Narcle0
24 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@jefmoesy
24 күн бұрын
Respect just went up x1000000👍😂
@Verchiel_
24 күн бұрын
@@itr00ow93 they and the rest of the world are laughing at not being american.
@OGTrula
24 күн бұрын
Good thing there is only smart people in the tech community.. oh wait
"The customer is always right in regards to taste " is the proper qoute
@thehailey
24 күн бұрын
If we're gonna get picky it's "right in matters of taste", and this would be a matter of taste where they want u to leave out expensive additional features and they still get charged the same
Imagine a USB C powered display that lets you work with your laptop connected to it. That way you're prepared to edit an outside project.
I've covered this monitor a lot. I think you're right, it's just for text really. I must say, this is an excellent video, the testing is simply brilliant. GJ LTT.
@yensteel
22 күн бұрын
Wow, nice to see you here too!
Hey Linus!!! Those Light bars that point at the screen don't look silly now eh?
10:25 is CRAZYYYYYY
@ARandomInternetUser08
24 күн бұрын
Crazy political trash*
@HotdogSosage
23 күн бұрын
Crazy is getting high on drugs and trying to eat people. This is just a sad attempt of forcing a weak political joke in
@CubanLegend561
23 күн бұрын
i loled so hard
@Sn0wiss
23 күн бұрын
@@ARandomInternetUser08 AKA a joke
@gaelenhammond5010
23 күн бұрын
I don’t think it’s political to say a joke about a thing that happens.
This awesome I have been looking for such thing
This would be amazing for an outdoor video shoot. Sun everywhere, plus if it's just 6W you could theoretically power it off a little USB battery bank.
Finally rlcd got a mention, the main advantage for these panels is the reduced eye strain. Is amazing for long hours of text based work like as a dev this is really good
@NigelMelanisticSmith
24 күн бұрын
I agree. I work in Cyber Security and use this monitor to help with my eye strain.
@GMZLDK
24 күн бұрын
100% agree
@thehailey
24 күн бұрын
A normal LCD with a flicker-free low brightness setting is bout 10% of the price, but power to ya
@kuba_wasikowski
24 күн бұрын
I have this monitor for 2 years and helped me a lot with eyestrain, well not this RE but previous version that has same panel
@JGnLAU8OAWF6
24 күн бұрын
If it were able to reflect as much as even gray paper it would be great, but right now normal LCD with dialed in brightness would be a lot better.
My Garmin Forerunner 955 has this kind of display. It's the ideal type of panel for the use case. I absolutely love it.
I like that someone finally brought this tech back. I'd even go as far to hope they are used in newer tablets, phones, and watches eventually too. But since 'new development/adopter tax' for these screens are still a bit high, one can only hope something like big companies in the sports or food industry make some partnerships or at least some large orders.
Not sure about adding a front light, but making it trans-reflective would make sense. Which was a technology that was used in early mobile phones with color screens and in a handful of laptops like the Toshiba Portege R500. The LCD had a backlight, but was also readable in direct sunlight with the backlight turned off.
Finally, a monitor that you need a desk lamp for. Of course this probably would have a lot of great utility for semi-outdoor POS systems like at theme parks, or other theme park type information displays (As long as they have a light strip above them for overcast weather and nightime operation). Otherwise I could see people using this for outdoor patio use, for football games or what have you. But short of integration into a weather housing, it would be "Lug outside for parties" kind of use. A neat niche for sure. Their digital signage products make a lot more sense especially in the kinds of conditions you now typically see backlit digital signage. I wonder how their power performance compares to the rising competing technology of E-ink displays, considering they have a similar low power profile, but good sunlight performance. The backlight feature of the E-inks in some ways allows for better versatility. Unless they offer a sun-LCD with a supplemental lighting feature.
@uberfuzzy
24 күн бұрын
I had the same idea, but my first thought example was toll-booths, since they usually 3-4 glass sides, so ALL the daylight gets in there.
@comeradecoyote
23 күн бұрын
@@uberfuzzy I think the age of toll plaza’s is coming to an end. Most places are ditching them for computer vision toll enforcement, and RFID tag billing like EZ-pass. Otherwise thats not a bad idea. I’m sure they’d find a niche for any outdoor booth, as long as a windshield’s polarisation doesn’t affect the visibility of the display. I know some linear and circular polarisers like camera lenses and sunglasses might cause a perceptible dimming.
... gotta love that you used an Austin Clip for that color Accuracy clip...
@MarioGoatse
24 күн бұрын
What's the relevance there? Is there a joke or a reference?
@kirisuma2186
23 күн бұрын
@@MarioGoatse no, If anything just a nod to a fellow KZreadr. They could have easily used one of their own clips.
There is a defunct panel tech called PIXEL QI. It was used on the OLPC XO-1 and I had one on the Notion Ink Adam. Like this it was a reflective Colour LCD but it had a front light. In sunlight reflective mode only Gray Scale was visible even though it was a colour panel. Indoor mode with front light it was a decent quality colour LCD just mildly washed out low contrast. I think that was the best compromise as it was very general purpose applicable.
@yensteel
24 күн бұрын
I miss that company too! I remember getting excited for the Adam because it means I can have tablet functionality everywhere, hiking, park, beach, anywhere. T-LCD and R-LCD are the best compromise between E-InK and LCD. Clover used their displays for outdoor laptops too. Eazeye could be in the right direction. They’re also using T-LCD. The low-power LCD tech of the e-paper pebble watches are also good. It’s also a great direction for tablets. No ghosting, excellent battery life, outdoor friendly, proven tech for 40+ years.
i could see it being useful in my bedroom when is 2 in the morning & i would like a very dim light... but for that price I'm sure i can find a better indoor monitor that can get as dim but yeah this is clearly for OutDoor usage, maybe get Framework to add a Sunview Screen module as an option
This seems like it be a really cool portable monitor technology. Being able to get some work done outdoors without having to find shade for your laptop, and if it gets cloudy, you can just use your laptops display
I love the conversation about light and contrast ratio. Remind me of the Technology Connections video on the color brown, which is just orange with context.
I remember seeing this technology showcased back in 2017. Glad to see it finally come up again, hopefully its here to stay!
I could see this being extremely helpful in the screen I installed in my CRX since it's got a large back hatch window so often the sun is pouring through when it's behind me making the screen (and thus my GPS/radio controls) almost completely unreadable, and the old school aftermarket radio screen in the car is 100% un-readable at almost any level of sunlight. If you could add a light to make this usable at night also it would be fantastic for any screen that needs used in vehicles, maybe phones, and smart watches but I can't see the use case for it in a computer monitor outside of niche applications like music festivals or other events, maybe some work type situations like on site computer for construction, etc. but Jesus that price. edit: Just thought of this, would be an option for watching tv on a camping trip? low power consumption and working in sunlight could be useful there. edit 2: Could be useful for a bedroom tv that you don't want making light but you want it on to sleep to? Could be stretch there, I have a really old 50" 2006 TV (got it for $15) that used a lamp in the back for my bedroom TV. 720p sucks and you can't use it all if the lights are on in the room BUT it's capable of being dimmer than a modern TV which makes it my ideal TV for when I'm in bed with the lights off.
It's certainly nice to have as a backup for any kind of outdoor activity. Just mirror your content to this and a normal monitor to use whichever fits the current environment best.
usecase can be to adopt this tech into the "normal" lcd/led displays, so you have best of both worls. Sensor to detect ambient light levels to make an ultra low energy display for like worklaptop.
@foldionepapyrus3441
24 күн бұрын
Has already been done 'transflective displays' have been fitted in as far as I know ever Panasonic Toughbook for decades, and my old models are really great at remaining very readable in the daylight but still working in the dark. The technology does still have limitations on pixel density etc but you can get a perfectly acceptable screen out of it.
@yensteel
22 күн бұрын
Woot, the same company in this video now has what you're looking for.
Hey Linus and team, curious what was the lux/lumen output of the bright light you were shining on it the display in the second half of the video? I suffer from seasonal affective disorder and my strategy to mitigate it has been to either go to Florida for the summer or buy $400 in light bulbs and light up my home office much brighter than the usual 300 lux you’d get in an office. I hit around 7,000 lux in my home office. I think this would be more usable than my current monitors that are a bit difficult to read.
I had honestly forgotten about reflective screens, but this was super cool. I would 100% buy a portable monitor that used this technology.
Finally, a perfect monitor to use with Andy’s monitor light bar.
*Beardless Linus hits differently*
@TheOfficialKiro67
24 күн бұрын
he looks younger this way, like back in his ncix days
@cyanidegaming69
24 күн бұрын
where did he hit you tho? on the aaah?
@yourfriendben2
24 күн бұрын
I cant tell if a video is new or just an old one I've never seen now😂
@SunWarrior155
24 күн бұрын
He looked like a hobo with the beard
@adityakhaprelap
24 күн бұрын
That's what his children say. (Jk)
What an interesting piece of technology. Nice video!
I've never heard of people thinking blue light causes eye damage. People avoid high amounts of blue light because it messes with their sleep cycle
@Lizlodude
23 күн бұрын
Yeah it kinda showed up when the 'blue light glasses' became popular, pretty much just to sell more of them as far as I can tell.
@PolyesterMoustache
23 күн бұрын
@@Lizlodude it's just weird to even address such a nonsense claim when there's a legitimate one that's been around much longer. But I guess it's good to publicly debunk hogwash
Finally, a reason to go outside and touch grass with my sun powered display
live audio is great example! For the lack of constant light issue, just get a small USB led light facing the screen from above or below towards the screen. problem solved.
Imagine this on like a Toughbook with a front light. For a system they expect your using in a literal field, it would be amazing.
Very useful for working in the field. Be it a testing ground for robotics, autonomous systems and unmanned vehicles to events and what not. Sure not for indoors but thats not the targetted use. Trying compare it for indoors is like saying how useless is a bright flashlight in a well lit room.
As someone who is a high schooler who has lived in Florida my whole life, i can guarantee that the statement at 10:20 is not true, they fly off the shelves faster than that panel could even update a frame 😂
The joke at 10:20 caught me by surprise lol
@ARandomInternetUser08
24 күн бұрын
Yeah, because the channel is a joke after that. They've lost my support after that. THIS A TECH CHANNEL, NOT POLITICS.
@snoopadillo
24 күн бұрын
@@ARandomInternetUser08 cry about it lol
@matheusode4427
23 күн бұрын
@@ARandomInternetUser08 get mad lol
@ARandomInternetUser08
23 күн бұрын
@@matheusode4427 speak for yourself, lefty kid.
I remember back in the days of netbooks being excited about displays by Pixel Qi. I really wanted to add one to my netbook to extend its battery life even further! This seems similar but Pixel Qi had a back light if you wanted it or you could turn the backlight off. A netbook with one of the brand new solid state drives and one of these screens was the ultimate portable computer!
I used to have an Amazfit Bip watch that used a reflective screen like that, but also had a backlight when needed. looked amazing in the sun as an AOD
Perhaps as this technology advances even further, and if they can lower the price, these monitors could be useful in a well-lit office environment. It would certainly help to cut the cost of electricity, and ?possibly? reduce the need to replace faulty displays. I dunno, a lot of speculation at this point I suppose. At least they seem to have a good use case for outdoor signage, as you mentioned.
10:26 SHEESH 😂😂 (I like the thumbnail)
I think this monitor would be great for cruises, airport displays, and restaurants(with windows). Any indoor public area would be really good for this thing.
I would love to see this in a hybrid system on a laptop. Have a regular backlight for when you are in a dark room but have this technology for if you are in a sunny cafe.
Hmm.. What we need is mini-LED backlights where the LEDs are surrounded by mirrors. Would lose some filling factor by 2 or 3 but would still be f***ing bright in the 🌞! Even better would be micro-LED with a mirror-like layer directly deposited around the LED within the fab. A quick search shows people have already had success with deposition of highly reflective layers on silicon.
You should have tried that EInk display in direct sunlight.
8:55 - not quite, the full quote is "The customer is always right, in matters of taste,"
I am super happy to know this exists. For 15 years I have been thinking that a display that performs well in direct sunlight would be great. Yes it certainly needs a few more years and iterations but it is really the first product that seems usable at all in this regard (except huge LED walls).
10:23 WOW, that was a politically charged joke I never thought I would have heard from Linus (except WAN-Show). But I love it 😂👍
@Jourei_
24 күн бұрын
Florida has been up to so many wacky things it's starting to lose the politic-ness and become a meme. :D
@oofcloof
24 күн бұрын
@@Jourei_ If it was all libraries it would be wacky, but its only grade school libraries which seems reasonable to me - I don't think anyone would want their kids to check out a book with dildos or whatever in it without them knowing.
@krimmAnims
24 күн бұрын
@@oofcloofwha?? how is a book about homosexuality or gender instantly connected to sex in your mind? It could literally just be a story about someone figuring out who they are and how they feel… And they’d still burn it
@latech7671
24 күн бұрын
@@oofcloof I haven't looked too deep into it (since I am not affected by it) but I did come across the fact that Heartstopper (Book behind the Netflix Series) has been banned... ... and if that is eligible for bans then they should probably just ban most fictional books because most of them have some kind of love interest in them. What I find especially funny however is that the same people then argue that "the Bible" should be in those same libraries and while I do understand that it is more than a simple book for many, it still has all the content they are trying to sensor in it in a huge amount
@SlyNine
24 күн бұрын
@@krimmAnimsthose are books deprecating sex acts and alot of the ideas reach back to the Kentler experiment.
The full saying is "The customer is always right, in matters of taste"
I use a smart watch with a transreflective screen, the Amazfit Bip S. It also has its own lighting, so it's useable in either bright or dim situations. Sadly, later versions no longer have it, so I'm stuck using an older model.
My father had a surf and sailing school on the beach ,and it was a nightmare to read the calander or all the prenotation on a normal pc display. Pretty uncommon but i think he would love this
This on a phone would be a banger. Always readable awesome battery life and doesn’t burn your eyes out at night.
@khazareek
24 күн бұрын
You're correct if only for the fact that you wouldn't see anything at all at night. There is no light whatsoever, whatever ambient lighting bounces off the walls of your room during the day would not be there at night.
@jumpierwolf
24 күн бұрын
Yeah for sure man, it's pretty useable at night right after you turn on a really bright table lamp and point it directly at the phone. A lot easier to just use a regular phone with night mode and brightness turned down.
@Jourei_
24 күн бұрын
This, as an optional feature! Backlight turned on for the moments others commented.
@KARLOSPCgame
24 күн бұрын
If this thing is in the backscreen of (for example) Samsung Fold would be golden, you could actually use a phone outside to watch a movie
@deppe4202
24 күн бұрын
@@khazareek cant you build in like an smal backlight or like what the i ink display made. Also maybe then people would stop looking at their stupid phone all night
The full quote is, "The customer is always right *in matters of taste* "
As others have mentioned, this is also great for general computing in outdoor events. Cheaper for powering it, better visibility when outside, and for general use stuff, no need for high performance, just like offices that use those cheap USB based display extenders. No need for fast response times or perfect 3d rendering, just showing text, or basic multi-monitor work with documents/spreadsheets.
9:47. However is it linearly polarized light that it reflects? Most people are sensetive to linear polarized light, not circular polarized light (that the sun emits). A regular LCD emits linear polarized light. I don't know exactly how the RLCD works.
I love hearing previews for new vidoes on the WAN show. Luke's confusion was extremely funny
10ms is perfectly fine for 60Hz
@kendokaaa
24 күн бұрын
No it isn't, even at 60hz 10ms means visible smearing. You don't want high response times no matter the refresh rate
@Lemoncit0
24 күн бұрын
@@kendokaaa obviously you are not gonna play competitively with a 60HZ display, for most games especially singleplayer ones 10ms 60hz is fine
@kendokaaa
24 күн бұрын
@@Lemoncit0 But it's not "fine", it's just usable
@hannahp642
24 күн бұрын
@@kendokaaa Whether it's fine depends on the use case.
I used to do some UAV flights and had to do some tweaking to the controllers and computer vision in the middle of nowhere with direct sunlight hitting the monitors. It was really hard to program under those conditions. I we had one of these (with a frontlight for cloudy conditions) it would have helped quite a lot. Most of the time we were running on portable batteries so having a monitor that is this energy efficient would have been a another plus.
Outdoor research for various science fields requiring them to be outside of a laboratory to collect data was one such case that came to mind. Practically ANY job that requires setting up outside for some period of time.
6:08 "Since your eyes and your brain have GOD TIER auto white balance!" Then the perfect follow up example of shades of red (where your brain fills in white balance to the point of seeing blue tones in the water and sky! Dang, never thought about it before. Well exemplified team!
As someone who lives in Florida, that library joke 💀
@Ignitros
24 күн бұрын
Children's library... IE.. where it shouldn't be.
@farsidesc4044
24 күн бұрын
@@Ignitros Yeah, LTT is pretty bad when it comes to making ignorant political jokes.
@Messier_-82
24 күн бұрын
@@Ignitrosto a non-American the mere existence of such a thing is ridiculous
@74rocktiger74
24 күн бұрын
🇺🇲 Thank God for Florida 🇺🇲
@krimmAnims
24 күн бұрын
@@Ignitroswhat’s the problem??
if they can increase the reflection %, I could see this being excellent on work focused laptops or a chrome book where power isn't practically limitless and color doesn't mater. I could also see this being nice for like car or bike infotainment systems if the display is placed right.
@yensteel
24 күн бұрын
The militaries are using it at least. No soldier wants to squint and cover their hands over their devices just to read what’s going on. - -
I can see this being useful for all sorts of business purposes. I'd like to see some kind of IP rating on it though. Having a way to boost brightness in low light conditions might be good too.
the Florida library joke was amazing
@ARandomInternetUser08
24 күн бұрын
Amazingly trash you mean. It's a far left agenda that has NO place in tech videos.