add blue is a pain in the ass

Brilliant balanced & in-depth review. And for once someone hasn't kept referring to the unreliable Ford Ranger. I too am leaning towards the Mitsubishi.

@drivingenthusiastaustralia

18 күн бұрын

Thanks. Glad it helped.

@Paradoxical124

16 күн бұрын

How is the ranger unreliable?

I'm looking to buy a 4x4 Ute, considering both of these. The Isuzu offers a Cab Chassis with good value, not available with Triton atm, I will wait for that to come to Australia. I have a Pajero Sport and love it, been no issues in 7 years and its a champ offroad, although a bit bumpy on corrugations. A friend bought a M-UX at the same time, his is a rattle box, so noisy from day one and sounds awful now especially when cold, my Mits is nice and quite which he commented on the first time he drove mine. It would have been nice to have a noise comparison on the Utes.

Really enjoyed the discussion format. No bs just facts. I would go for the DMax to be honest. Not keen on twin turbo or ad blue.

As a touring vehicle i think the old D/max could still be the pick up to 3 ton towing max.

Best comparison review i have seen for a while. Thanks for a honest opinion ✌️

Nothing frightens a Triton especially a D Max , my Triton is invincible it goes anywhere and I mean anywhere. I’ve added a duel snorkel and 285s on the rear 265s for the front it’s a beast.

Just got back from the dealer literally 15min ago, ordered the base model Triton GLX 4WD. GLXR seemed pointless to me, push button start and chrome trim for an extra 5k wooow the GLX will easily get my dirt bikes to and from the track/bush First new vehicle I've ever owned honestly a bit nervous, $52691 NZD is a lot of money to spend

@drivingenthusiastaustralia

13 күн бұрын

Good work. GLX seems like a no-brainer. It'll be ok. Resale is usually alright for the Triton. In Australia anyway.

The Isuzu d-max all day every day, don’t care about the warranty I would never buy a twin turbo four-wheel-drive more parts to breakdown in the middle of nowhere and it would work hard with the 2-4 L towing in a long distance only my opinion.

like the d max Mitsubishi triton is a good value ...... but we get none of the cool diesel utes in the U.S ..... every thing is going 4cy turbo but the Nissan frontier V6 gas aka navero , in the mid size segment

We need a DMAX 24 vs HILUX Now please

Constant 4x4 is a huge advantage in the wet

@351tgv

18 күн бұрын

indeed it is, Super Select II is very good, that said so is the system in Ranger/Everest/Amarok.

@landrover1155

18 күн бұрын

​@351tgv in Ranger in only V6 guise I understand.

@landrover1155

18 күн бұрын

And dry, under braking, under acceleration, under cornering. There is no comparison to rear wheel only. I would not own another non all 4wd ute. Cheers

@351tgv

16 күн бұрын

@@landrover1155 - True so buy the V6 for that very reason, for me I am not a ute buyer so in Everest you get it.

Excellent comparison. As you say, it's your opinion, however I mostly agree with you summation. PS I hate adblue and the driver monitor.

I do love the D-Max, the facelift is even cooler. But my dad just bought a Triton GSR and he’s picking it up next week

@Voke_Roblox

19 күн бұрын

The Triton is also a Good truck tbh

@stevenalexander403

18 күн бұрын

Congratulations!

@markpowell7470

17 күн бұрын

I envy him... 😂 I plan on getting one...in 3 months when they arrive in jamaica

Nice analysis mate!

one thing to keep in mind when towing, both of these vehicles have the same 6 speed auto except the triton has a trans cooler from factory where as the D Max doesn't.

@drivingenthusiastaustralia

18 күн бұрын

Great point. Thanks 👍

nice breakdown, cheers.

THis video came in at the perfect time! I am torn between these two utes

@adamcrea3547

18 күн бұрын

i was similar i choose the dmax

@LEVIAHAN

18 күн бұрын

@@adamcrea3547 Cool! I chose Triton. I was sold on the torrential rainfall traction 4 Wheel lock. I really needed this video this month. All the best with the D-Max!!

@adamcrea3547

18 күн бұрын

@@LEVIAHAN super select is awesome and wish the DMAX had it. but i wasn't a fan of the driver monitor system and preferred the overall look. but there isn't to many differences. good luck with it buddy.

@LEVIAHAN

18 күн бұрын

@@adamcrea3547 Correct! I really preferred the Dmax look far more but that super select was the selling point since I do alot of Highway runs and it rains alot where I`m from. 🙏

@marvin_espinosa

16 күн бұрын

​@@adamcrea35475:32

DAF trucks in Australia have been used adblu for over 15 years. It’s not that bigger deal.

@drivingenthusiastaustralia

19 күн бұрын

Yep, agree. But i guess it is a slight extra cost to worry about.

Is a good format, I'd do more of them yes.

My complaint regarding the triton is that doesn't come with any kind of cover at the back and no towbar included, when the competitors does. So adding 6k to the price for that is way to expensive.

Hated the "driver aids" in the triton the camera is just horrible, didn't like the finish in the lower spec interior its all hard plastics everywhere no padding at all. Ended up with the bt50 as it was the same price as the triton but just felt a better drive for me.

Dmax has less power and torque but nearly a second quicker 0-100. And it’s heavier😂😂

Triton is by far the obvious overall winner here

love the New Triton, but still bought the DMAX building a touring vehicle.. After market part's for DMAX much more comprehensive.. completely different vehicle after the engine tune..ARB front diff Lock.. Goes everywhere dads 76 twin locked LandCruiser goes..."So far anyway" ..

@davidsutherland4280

16 күн бұрын

Completely agree with your comment. I bought a GSR but can’t get tow bar for another month…

I bought the GSR. Love it but bloody annoyed there is still no accessories. At least another month for tow bar…grrrrr

Triton 👌

Pity about the looks of the Triton, the design is all over the shop.

Most have been saying the Triton is a livelier sportier feeling car, 2.4 L twin turbo means the engine is working hard, Isuzu/BT50 3L single turbo not as lively but under stressed and likely to live longer without dramas.

Mitsubishi Triton champion in rally off-road cross country Thailand Laos to Cambodia AXCR championship

Going back many years I remember Jaguar using as a sales pitch that it now had a sealed electronic odometer. This was to combat the standard second hand car practice of winding back the clock. Which was simple to do. Within no time you could buy, in certain circles, an electronic gizmo that plugged in and allowed you to set the odometer to anything you wanted. Making it even easier to clock the car. There will soon be available something similar to disable all this non safety shit. So many people turn it off every time they drive. But it defaults back on. There needs to be a permanent override program to shut these systems down. For your own sanity and safety. The Ancap rating set up needs doing away with. Just re hashed information with a distorted twist anyway. Totally meaningless rating. Could I be bothered to add synthetic piss to my diesel. Not really. Do I want it sniffing it's own exhaust. Not really. But they all do. Which would I have out of the two. D Max if I had to choose. What one would I want. Neither.

Triton is the best dual cab on the market. Fords are lemons and have half the warranty.

Mitsubishi Triton number One better perfect driving performance handling stablity cornering, price , services maintenance, intelligent engineering

Good afternoon all, a question for the channel. We do a lot of regional travel, and we’re considering replacing our trusty 2016 Outlander with a 4wd, so that we can get to some places the Outlander can’t get to. We won’t be towing. I like the look of the Triton, but I was wondering whether I might be better off waiting the Pajero Sport to be updated, as it’s likely to be more family friendly. Does anyone have thoughts on this?

@Mochabear85

18 күн бұрын

The new MV triton will be a worthwhile upgrade, especially considering you travel. I'm currently averaging around 860km to a tank, with typical stop start peakhour traffic of a morning and afternoon in Brisbane 5 days a week. Without all of that, I would easily achieve over 900km to a tank. The new Paj sport is another 18+ months away at least, as Mitsubishi have only just announced the latest update for it. If you don't need the extra seats found in the Paj Sport, take a look at the Triton. But I imagine the new sport wont differ too much from the Triton

@richardbuckingham4329

18 күн бұрын

@@Mochabear85Sounds good, thanks for the reply.

@351tgv

18 күн бұрын

well the Outlander you have is at best On-Demand AWD, you could put on "All Terrain tyres" like Pirelli Scorpion ATR or Toyo Open Country ATR which will get you further along but without ability to lock in even 4x4 High (re: lock the transfer case) that can only take you so far, it will take you further but ground clearance and lack of low range will hurt in some regions. Since you probably want a new wagon style body then your options comes down to: - Pajero Sport (Mitshibishi) Super Select II (old) 2.4L single turbo diesel / 8-wpeed torque converter, 4x4 High/Low - Rexton (Ssangyong) 2.2L turbo diesel with I think 8-speed only has 4x4 High/Low , price - Fortuna (Toyota) Very good but also very lame Toyota, RWD with 4x4 High/Low tough as Hilux better ride - Everest (Ford) the best in class but PRICE is the worst here, also a finiky 10-speed auto that can let go but everything else is near spot on including RAW/AWD/4x4 High/Low Rear diff lock and V6 turbo diesel (again PRICE).

@richardbuckingham4329

18 күн бұрын

@@351tgvyes, we’re after a wagon style 4x4. Thanks for the options. I’ve had two long term Mitsubishi vehicles, and one ford. Had no problems with either Mitsubishi but did with the ford. So while I really like the Everest, as I like to keep my cars a long time, I feel more comfortable with the Pajero sport, or the Triton with a canopy. Not a fan of the Fortuner, it’s not really on my radar.

@351tgv

16 күн бұрын

@@richardbuckingham4329 - Fotuner is fine in that its got that Toyota quality based on Hilux, yes there are issues but over all it will be ok, the Pajero Sport is great, the ride quality is at best wollowy and steering is slow (but its hydraulic based so actually has lots of road feel), the Parejo Sport has Super select II but you can drive in RWD if you want to save fuel, 4High (technically AWD) is something the Fortuner does not have. It then comes down to subjective things like interior and exterior looks, form over function , options vs features of both cars. I can see why the Everest is what it is to you, my one was the 1st gen never had any issues with it for the most part, it was hard on front brake pads as I did a lot of towing with it, and ad blue is a pain in the backside if you don't monitor it, todays Everest is great but expensive, that said Ford have ironed out most issues with the 10-speed and the AWD/4x4 set up is bullet proof these days, so are the electrics, where ford fails is after sales service.

Triton is the best ute

Great review. Could you do the same with the Amarok/hilux? 🤙

Would you assume the same reaction to bt50? Aka Dmax?

@drivingenthusiastaustralia

15 күн бұрын

I've heard there are some cracking deals going for the BT-50 at the moment (in Australia). I'd be checking out that as well, yes. Pretty much the same vehicle as the D-Max; same platform, same powertrain etc.

Dmax is not a generational jump yet! Wait till next year or year after all utes are going bigger meaning more room for passengers triton just did this but still I’d wait a tad longer until there next update as i believe we will see companies bring in hydrogen cross diesel in the near future

if you need two turbos your engine is inadequate

d max is a proven reliable work horse triton is in unknown territrory atm

I think you misunderstood GCM VS GVM?

Nice video! I'm curious if the Triton still turns off traction control for the front axle with the rear diff lock on.

@drivingenthusiastaustralia

19 күн бұрын

I'm pretty certain all stability systems turn off when in low range with diff locks. I'll try and find a definite answer for you.

@troothhertz6297

19 күн бұрын

Isuzu same thing

@davidwiseman5016

18 күн бұрын

@@drivingenthusiastaustralia The MR Triton did this and so does the MV Triton but you can engage diff lock in 4Hcl and it only disables traction control on the rear axel, so both the DMax and the MV Triton are the same in this regard.

@351tgv

18 күн бұрын

it wont do that any more, even in 4x4 Low with diff lock the Traction control system is retained on the front wheels while the rears are done by the diff lock. that said the driver can still fully disengage traction control if they chose to.

@landrover1155

18 күн бұрын

Traction control is not anti slew/stability control. Off road say on the beach stability control is a burden (engine retardation and braking) - low range turns it off or you can turn it off with a button if in high range. Traction control cannot be turned off nor should it as it always helps even towing heavy loads in soft sand from stationary.

drove a new isuzu ute at work transmission seemed to be sluggish in changes, engine is gutless, and need a kidney belt for the suspension. Also driver assist is a pain. So far what ive seen of the new triton they have managed to stuff up the 4wd sytem, pass for both.

@Mochabear85

19 күн бұрын

What have they stuffed up exactly, care to elaborate? My MV GSR works fine! I've seen people say this because of one Carexpert review. Except there's a lot wrong with that review. Unless you've had a first hand account, im genuinely curious as to how they managed to "stuff up" the system!

@wagganationMFFM

19 күн бұрын

@@Mochabear85 failed car experts simple test, first time ive seen a triton that didnt pass it!

@shaun1900

19 күн бұрын

@@wagganationMFFMon ATs on freshly dug surface, watch the other reviews. Hardly a solid review to be fair

@wagganationMFFM

19 күн бұрын

@@shaun1900 the gwm tank did it on standard tyres lol

@Mochabear85

19 күн бұрын

@@wagganationMFFM The same review that couldn't switch to 4H properly due to user error? For those familiar with the super select II system, the way Paul was trying to put it in 4H/4HLC was wrong firstly. I can basically replicate his "issue" with mine, but if I do it as you're suppose to, zero issues. Tested on the Mrs 2016 Paj sport also, same results. Secondly, those tyres that are outfitted from factory are arse, hardly an AT as they are claimed to be, a HT at best, and I can attest to them being atrocious in the wet on road, actually quite dangerous (soon to be replaced) - so with that in mind, wet and muddy (crap) tyres on the circuit, interestingly other ute reviews drier. You say the Tank made it on stock tyres - take a closer look at the tyre compared to that on the Triton, absolutely coated in mud. And as Paul mentioned in the review, freshly dug out circuit (makes a difference if you think about the reasons why) At the end of the day, I'm not here to convince you to get one, just want people to be a bit more open minded. My first preference is a Ranger (have owned two), I'm no Triton die hard fan, but these things are solid and more capable than they have been given credit for. I can only give my first hand experience and at the end of the day, you do sound convinced that it's not worth the buy and hey, that's fine! Every review should be taken with a grain of salt and understand they are subjective, but that carexpert review did an absolute disservice to the new Triton!

2 t is the max these vehicles should tow, id be looking at 1.5 - 1.8 otherwise get a land cruiser.

Triton is the same block and head as the previous model, so it bothers me that alone

New Triton is day and night better than the DMAX in my opinion. In fact i believe its the best dual cab out, most reliable, great interior, the super select ii AWD feature is a game changer! Tritons just work.

@tacuazinful

19 күн бұрын

Most reliable??? On what base You can back up that opinion?

@AlsAllAussieAdventures

19 күн бұрын

@@tacuazinful Because Toyota are know for having DPF issues, FORD & VW keep having gear box and electrical issues (dashes turning off, cars going into limp mode), etc. Triton do not have any DPF or Motor or Gearbox issues. Very reliable platform HENCE why Mitsubishi offer a 10 years factory warranty!

@tacuazinful

18 күн бұрын

@@AlsAllAussieAdventures ok, i understand the negatives of Ford,VW and Toyota, but lets focus on Isuzu, how Triton, or in what aspects, is better than Isuzu

@AlsAllAussieAdventures

18 күн бұрын

@@tacuazinful Done. It has much better Warranty (10 years warranty & 10 years capped price servicing), offers Super select ii so you can run the car in AWD on sealed roads which is a game changer if your towing or driving in the hills or wet surfaces. Interior & Exterior is nicer in my opinion, also has more power & torque, better fuel economy and the list goes on.

@tacuazinful

18 күн бұрын

@@AlsAllAussieAdventures ok, I can Buy all of that, but more reliable than Isuzu, I don't think so

Triton all day everyday.

as per my previous replies in the other video about this: - Ad Blue can be a pain in the rear end if you do extended highway towing, I had an Everest (3.2L 5cyl 6-speed auto AWD/4x4) and when ever I did extended highway speeds towing the SCR system would consume Urea very quakily and yes it did catch me out once as the warning message comes on with less than 3L and I was still some 200km from nearest town and then that local servo did not have ad blue and I knew from other experience do not switch the engine off as you cant restart without ad blue but he engine will run with out it until you refill. I want to correct Brett here, the Triton does not have a "twin turbo" set up, its actually a sequential turbo set up (similar to Ford 2L bi-turbo) in the set up has a smaller faster spinning turbo and a larger slower spinning turbo, re: both are not same size. The reason why Mitshibishi have done it that way is to reduce turbo lag and anyone who did drive the 2.5L / 2.4L single turbo remember what horrid TURBO lag those engines had in previous Tritons (boost would come on at 2,500rpm, like an old turbo petrol turbo), also there is no need for the 8-speed auto, the gearing is tall and the final drive is short so the engine which now has a very good torque curve (re: flat slab of torque) can stay in a taller gear and still provide the same level of power (remember torque x revs / 9549 = kw at flywheel) without the need to drop to lower gears as thus burn more fuel for no reason. As for suspensions and steering? both now have electric steering (eewww, prefer hydraulic steering bat that is a personal choice) and from what I can tell the Triton has better steering of the two, suspension wise both are double wish bone front and leaf spring at the rear, depending on spec, in the upper spec I would agree with Bret that the D-Max has the edge but is that really a thing in utes? Interior space is easily a win for Triton as is design and function (its the newer of the two), that said do you trust that Mitshibishi basically have a Nissan design with Renault electrics over proven GM/Isuzu gear? The trump card? the Triton has Super Select II, which allows for full time AWD, big major plus (even if it uses more fuel) but D-max has slightly better mechanical off road credentials even if Traction control is meh at best. Best advice? Go to dealerships and get them to give you a 24 test drive of each and then figure out which one you think will be the better of the two and then hammer hard on price when you negotiate to purchase, if the dealership plays hard you play harder and find a dealer that wants your business, tip: regional dealerships want your business more than metro ones. finally? Good luck.

Me I look at what company's that are in courts like now that have shit on there customers been a few.

the triton is the ugliest truck to date😅

Driver monitor in Triton is total 💩.

@Mochabear85

19 күн бұрын

Cant argue with that. I turn it off though. Rumour is software update coming to address it or to allow it to toggle off completely. It's not a deal breaker though in terms of purchasing consideration. It's silly nonetheless.

@nikpilly6747

19 күн бұрын

It does turn back on every time you get back in I’d try putting a sticker over it see if that works

@Mochabear85

19 күн бұрын

@@nikpilly6747 everyone has tried that to no result. Unfortunate as I get what they were trying to do (achieve the ANCAP 5) but a bit a miss and not tweaked enough. if rumors are true, mitsu have heard the complaints and are working to dial the sensitivity down and provide an off toggle in the software. For the most part it isn't too intrusive, has it's moments, but still could be much better.

All depends if you’re gay or not, as to which one you’ll pick

Everything frightens Tritons heaps of rubbish uncomfortable and ugly

I’d skip both and just buy a ranger.

Neither