I can't believe I'm seeing this. A true Precursor artifact has been found! Just imagine what this could have been...

@LuminarLight

2 жыл бұрын

You found the build, so this was partly found thanks to you.

@avonnabors

2 жыл бұрын

This is historic

I can't believe I get to see this with my own eyes! It's surreal to think this would have been right beside Volcanic Crater this whole time - I bet the "Jump over the lake" and "Protect the miner's gems in the stump" unused tasks were for this level. And I'd bet money that there was going to be boulders to dodge on the way up the mountain, an idea that later saw use in Jak II's Mountain Temple. Thanks for the great video!

@DrJamesOnjen

2 жыл бұрын

There was even dialogue recorded for those missions. I stumbled upon this video of cut TPL dialogue and the are some lines from daxter in there, talking about the stump and the gems. Starts at about 1:48 kzread.info/dash/bejne/dI6go6OAeMayms4.html

The fact that we are now finding cut levels in this game 20 years later is just so crazy keep up the amazing work luminar I think if they would have finished it . the big Crystal the miners were hitting would eventually brake and it would open the area leading into yosemite that’s just what it looks like according to where it was placed in the map

@diablodin4332

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing! This would have been so cool!

@luisc2408

2 жыл бұрын

it would be cool if someone one day would mod TPL to have Yosemite into the game.

@letheepirus2398

2 жыл бұрын

This is truly incredible. After so long there is still more in Jak and Daxter to find. A whole level, and so close too. It's been right there this whole time. There MUST be a way to put this back into the game, it would be amazing.

Imagine if after getting 101 powercells, this was the reward. Like after you get the cells, the miners clear the crystal out and it opens a pathway to this new world. That would have been so cool

@iim4xii129

5 ай бұрын

Would've made for a better sequel than Jak 2.

This is the kind of thing I always had in my imagination as a kid - new, undiscovered areas to explore in TPL with forests, caves, and meadows. God, this just sets my imagination on fire all over again!

@josuepon0318

2 жыл бұрын

Me too man, it’s honestly beautiful to see this level and let my mind wonder on what it could’ve been

@mann-nova9392

2 жыл бұрын

Same here! I love Jak II but this makes me yearn for a true sequel to the original title.

@Joibuzzr1

Жыл бұрын

@@mann-nova9392 like, maybe what was happening in between the time Gol and Maia were defeated, and the rift gate was completed. That would be freaking awesome.

@mann-nova9392

Жыл бұрын

@@Joibuzzr1 well as far as I'm aware it was already completed and they just moved it? Like I think it picks up right after the original, maybe like a few days or something

Still blows my mind that such things are being discovered 20 years later!

@Ratchetti

2 жыл бұрын

Waiting for a video about this :)!

@K9arcade

Жыл бұрын

ikr gotta love the dedication and love from fans

I am both blown away and pissed that we didn't get this level in the final game. Imagine having to climb that cliffside and hit a red eco switch to activate all the vents in snowy mountain

Despite the lack of textures and whatnot, this map looks intriguing.

So my suspicion since I was a child was perfectly correct. They really were going to have 3 levels for the red sage just like the previous sages. This level is extremely beautiful because it contains one of my favourite biomes. The OST for it is superb, so calming and fitting. It makes a whole lot of sense, and I can see that the developers were sad they couldn't fit this level in, as in Jak 2 and 3 they had mountainous forest levels albeit much less charming. Honestly it's a shame, because the game feels quite incomplete now. I know now for sure that they must've also planned to make a yellow sage hub with 3 more levels before heading to the citadel. It's the natural order of things and anyone who's played many PS2 games of a similar kind understands why leaving out the yellow sage is so jarring. Just makes me wish, since Naughty Dog clearly no longer cares about Jak, they gave the IP to someone else and incorporated all these lost concepts that couldn't make it into the final product.

@Im_Blitz

2 жыл бұрын

It does seem incomplete now that you put it that way. With only 2 levels in the 3rd hub and none for the yellow sage, it seems like 4 more levels would have made this game that much greater and would've given a more complete feel. Shame..still a classic I've played many times through the years. Most recent playthrough was in June.

@theblah12

2 жыл бұрын

Based on the design bible their it seems like they had a lot of really ambitious ideas, with around 22 levels vs the 16 in the final game (with some interesting themes like a Savannah, Underground Forest and Village, Precursor Foundry (what eventually became the Citadel)). The world map itself also seems a lot more interconnected then the “hub and spoke” design they eventually used, with levels appearing to be connected directly with each other. Also a more complex plot line where the precursor robots would have taken a more central role - the final boss battle was going to be a 1 v1 robot vs robot duel, which would have been pretty awesome to see. Unfortunately it’s hard to tell how much of this went further than the concept stage, the seeing as the design bible contains a second story synopsis that follows the retail game more closely I imagine they probably reduced the scope fairly early in pre-production.

@firionkaiser8291

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah unfortunately we were hit with the "Yellow Sage's hut is now Gol and Maia's Citadel"

@Skellotronix

Жыл бұрын

​@@theblah12 Sounds a lot like Banjo-Tooie. Are there any more 3D platformers with interconnected worlds?

@CthulhuianBunny

11 ай бұрын

@@Skellotronix I want to say the original Tak game had ways to go from one level to another without entering the hub area.

This is the single coolest find I think I've ever seen come out of TPL. Such a shame this level didn't make the final cut... it looks like it would've been a much needed pace-breaker in Volcanic Crater. Fingers crossed that we might see a full restoration of this someday!

@Loafsandfishes

2 жыл бұрын

Yes 🙏🏻

3:07 so there was going to be a third eco vent switch? That's very interesting. This is amazing, great job!

@NateDaMan5

2 жыл бұрын

The green and red eco vents are automatically open in the final game, maybe the red switch was originally intended to be here?

@aliceinwonderland4395

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah definitely would've been the red eco vent. I can understand the green eco vent being open since the green sage kept Jak fit and pruned his realm, but the others being closed makes sense due to lurker activity.

@NateDaMan5

2 жыл бұрын

@@aliceinwonderland4395 Yep! My thoughts exactly.

@JoeDower101

2 жыл бұрын

Would have been really interesting if there were closed yellow vents in this level and some of the red vents in Snowy Mountain were closed too. Would have been cool to play either level first then coming back later to get the unattainable power cells, as opposed to the 1st hub where Forbidden Jungle is always the most optimal first level choice.

So, after how many years, those miners finally got that giant diamond out and uncovered the path to this level. Incredible find.

I will try to make this accessible for everyone, at least in emulator (I already have some ideas for this). I will share more info once the build is available to the public, which will happen once the owner of the build (Diablodin) is ready and has released it.

@martinbarrettgamer4333

2 жыл бұрын

This level looks really great :D if I must ask how did you get the early build on your PCSX2 to work with out black screen ?

@LuminarLight

2 жыл бұрын

I patched it.

@martinbarrettgamer4333

2 жыл бұрын

@@LuminarLight is it on the website the patch one ?

@LuminarLight

2 жыл бұрын

@@martinbarrettgamer4333 ? This is not present on any website yet.

@martinbarrettgamer4333

2 жыл бұрын

@@LuminarLight ok:D let us know when it’s released. So I can check out some uncut level :) I thought it was my Mac on pcsx2 that wasn’t reading it.

Awesome job. Now every time I'm replaying jak, i'll be thinking about the whole world on the other side of that gemstone...

@spencernoss6554

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I always think like that when I look at the Dock in Boggy Swamp and realize the fisherman was originally meant to be there as well to continue our journey by coast.

I've always loved seeing cut levels in games, and this is already one that is high on my list. It's so expansive and unique, plus I love a more wild area like this.

I wish this made it into the final game. One of my ONLY complaints about Jak 1 is that it wasn't longer. I would've loved this level to be in the Volcanic Crater hubworld, which it looks like it originally was. My guess is it was cut for time.

Seems to be a big source of inspiration for the mountains design outside Haven City in Jak II.

My mind is blown. A discovery for the ages.

I really REALLY wish this was in the final game. A really cool concept for a level and great music too.

@matinazadeh6870

2 жыл бұрын

Jak and Daxter needed another level like this

I used to think that the name "Un-snowy Mountain" implied that we did something to remove the cold climate from the Snowy Mountain level - but the music here fits SO well over the "Savannah" level that it makes me thing Un-snowy Moutain may have just been a place holder name FOR this level

This is a monumental discovery! It's a shame it was cut from the original game, it would have made a really nice addition!

Thank you thank you, as a diehard jak and daxter fanatic, it’s amazing to see people like you find these hidden gems and show it to the world. You have no idea how much this means to me that you found this. Please keep doing more videos like this. You are incredible 🔥

I always felt like there was supposed to be something beyond the miner's cave.

Very interesting! I was wondering what that “unsnowy mountain” from the soundtrack was from, and never would have known about this entire level that was scrapped for the final game.

I love how open this level is. It reminds me funnily enough of the mountain level in Tak and the Power of Juju

I was always so desperate for more of this game. My sisters and I loved the lore so much as kids. I've finished it hundreds of times. Thank you so much for this!

Im so impressed!!! I absolutely love when classic games have hidden content or unused stuff that eventually is discovered, even after many many years!!! The jak trilogy is a masterpiece.

This is pretty wicked discovery man. There’s jak content being discovered everyday

I'd pay money to play this level, fully complete, along with maybe 3 levels for the yellow sages lab. They could release 4 levels in the form of "unreleased DLC" and I'd snatch it up real quick.

Some of the areas remind me a bit of Haven Forest. I wonder if they just snagged a few chunks of this map, gave them a few changes here and there and then repurposed them for Jak II?

@MrIanMatthew

2 жыл бұрын

That was my first thought when I saw this video as well

This is actually insane, I always knew some parts of the game felt a bit rushed but this is so amazing. You're doing the Precursor's work showing this off.

3:04 red eco switch! so that's where it was originally going to be. Would actually be quite awesome if they came out with a remastered Jak and Daxter at some point - but with some 'lost' levels like this added for the old fans. You could even add a few more adjacent to the Yellow sage's hut, then go on to Gol and Maia's Citadel (which one assumes was the original intention). Overall Jak and Daxter a landmark game (and a big part of my childhood) but it is clear in hindsight the final product was only about 80% complete.

@homeworld22

2 жыл бұрын

12:25 also wonder - was that pad for the zoomer or the flut-flut?

@LuminarLight

2 жыл бұрын

The description says that it was for Zoomer.

- Wait so the first 3 of 4 levels were cut? - Wonder which level made it in, my gut says Sentinel since it's still quite large despite the sierras dwarfing it and even in the old trailers the level seems fairly complete. - Or maybe Spider because I've got a theory it was supposed to be 'Cave Under Falls' in hub 4 but was repurposed for hub 3, though the level's so roughly put together I'm more inclined to believe it was made late in development, which *could* mean they brought it over last minute because Crystal Mines wasn't working like they'd hoped or they wanted more level variety since there's already allot of lava filled locations in the game. Also the Dark Eco wasn't in Spider's original concept art so it'd make sense if they changed it to better line up with the level it was replacing. - So I guess my first theory for the other 2 cut levels is Crystal Mines... The other, Idk could be a very old version of a current level. Some of Basin's old concepts are very different then the final level, notably it seems WAY more open. - Yeah this is pretty much all speculation sorry : /

This is spectacular. To be able to see a whole J&D cut level is something so great I could've never even imagined it. If you ever manage to restore the level, it's going to be absolutely amazing to see. By chance do you know if any of the unused missions match with the missing actors and items of the level? Anyways, thanks again for your amazing work. This community is getting bigger and stronger by the moment, and people like you make it happen. Keep it up!

@LuminarLight

2 жыл бұрын

I know of no way to find an answer to what you asked, sadly.

Imagine this a uncut game with this level and other unused content I call it Jak and Daxter: Extended Director's Cut

I think this level would have been a very interesting one, it has a lot of depth and height differences. I'm also curious what the third eco vent would have done, I always felt like we were missing a few since we have only 2 vents and technically 6 eco types in the game. Thanks for the upload, really cool discovery!

@TheRealBlazingDiamond

2 жыл бұрын

Im assuming it was a red eco vent, although it's only ever used, like, twice for combat segments. I'm assuming it would have more involvement here. Although it begs the question, what would red eco have unlocked? Because blue eco, as we know, activates precursor artifacts and yellow eco destroys metal crates and can be used at a distance, but red eco is close range, and can't destroy metal crates, so I assume it probably is only a combat power up, not one that helps collect power cells or precursor orbs. Maybe to destroy a giant wall...? But then why not just put yellow eco? I dunno, its weird

Imagine that once the PC port is out, it may be possible to add this level back in via modding. Here's hoping. Edit: Dang, that's a huge level! I love the verticality and how we would've gotten another eco generator as well as another nice Zoomer section. It's a shame this didn't make it in, it looks as if it'd fit in great.

@WarriorofLiberationNika

2 жыл бұрын

Is there a PC port coming? First I've heard of it.

@LuminarLight

2 жыл бұрын

👀 kzread.info/dron/pi2zAmtm2GC58_Dx0LgWOQ.html

Imagine this level with all the different creatures, mini games, flut flut. Amazing

Holy crap I read about these levels in an article a couple months ago and never thought we'd find them soon after, thank you

bro this is so freaking cool!!!!! thank you for digging this up!!! If the big black area was supposed to be a lake then there probably would've been the stilt village there; I imagine you'd use the zoomer to get to different relevant locations and characters.

@LuminarLight

2 жыл бұрын

This is a standalone/separate level that was in hub3, no references to stilt village or anything.

@TopNotch770

2 жыл бұрын

@@LuminarLight The stilt village was referenced in the bible as part of the same area/ last hub area before the final boss, but okay; too bad we didn't get to see either of them

@LuminarLight

2 жыл бұрын

I mean stilt village is not referenced in this level. This is an independent level, just like Sentinel Beach or Snowy Mountain for example.

This is CRAAZYY, thank you so much for sharing this with us!!

Oh I love this! As a young kid I didn't understand that as a game, it wasn't an endless world. But even once I did know that, I always wondered what else could be part of this game/world. It's the best to see that there was so much more planned - though it's sad to see how far through this level they got before it ultimately had to be cut. So much work! Thank you :)

This is amazing! It'd be awesome if they were to re-release this game with this added level. I'd buy the hell out of it.

I've been having some strange dreams about Jak and Daxter, seeing this is seriously giving me the deja vu vibe!😀

Excellent video. Never get bored of recycled J&D content, but its always an exciting surprise to see new stuff emerge. Thanks for taking to time to make this :)

amazing work. people like you are keeping the franchise breathing

What a cool find! I never once considered that Jak 1 had cut levels. This one looks really awesome and like it would have been a great portrayal of Jak's open-ended level design with multiple journeys and room to stretch your legs. The Zoomer and Eco monument too, they really wanted to pack it full. I guess Volcanic Crater is the one hub missing a Zoomer level (that's not a transition).

Really reminds me of Haven Forest in Jak 2. Especially the vibe of the music and the little path + platform things at 1:02.

Incredible! It's a shame it didn't make the final cut, it looks like it would be really fun to explore.

This is so cool, I am so into all this cut content stuff. Thank you for sharing it :D

Unreal you managed to present this. Keep up the amazing work.

This is so so cool. Thank you for sharing this, I always felt like TPL was missing a few levels.

I’m so extremely bummed this wasn’t in the original game. Makes me even hungrier for a third sequel (yes I know tlf exists, no I’m not counting it) Perhaps we’ll get a remaster/remake of tpl in the future utilizing this level

They should have really kept unadded levels. The game is pretty short, but nonetheless, still glad I was able to play this game.

I can see the powercells now...

That’s a really big map, almost makes me think it was intended to be foggy

It's so sad this was cut because it looks like it could've been one of the best levels.

When you consider Volcanic Crater having 6 paid for power cells and Gol and Maia's Citadel having an absurd amount of Precursor orbs in blue eco mechanisms its easy to see how a lot that could have fit into this level instead.

I have a lot of thoughts, but only will share some of them. That was a Red Eco activation thingamajig. I know it, you know it, we all know it. Also, some company needs to hurry up and release their own disks of Jak music. LRG's copyright is expired, remember?

man - they need to get back together and finish this game, like a remaster/reboot of the series - i rlly wanna see the fully finished yellow sage area

Bro this looks nice I Have never seen this well done

I am so happy I love cut content and seeing an entire cut level in Jak 1 is just amazing I can only imagine what this could have been and once all these glitches are fixed I'm going to be so happy to see what it really really looks like and I'm just happy and I'm really happy that's all I'm just I'm just ecstatic

Hope one day we could see a fixed version of "yosemite" but for now thank's luminar for this awesome discovery

This makes me think of the outside levels in Jak II ! Love it

I hope that someone is able to port this to the final game and finish it. It would also be interesting if there are more cutted levels, like for yellow sages hut.

@LuminarLight

2 жыл бұрын

They "cut" those levels because they were never finished. There were no problems with space.

I have a crazy idea, but what if they ever make a jak and daxter PS5 trilogy remake, they could add this to the precursor legacy remake as a bonus level 😭

It is like when you have a dream about levels in a game that shouldn't exist.

I got linked this whilst playing the og game again. I gotta say, I'm always a fan of unearthing cool game secret like this :) keep up the good work!

@K9arcade

Жыл бұрын

Also I JUST remembered - the vinyl my bf gave me HAS the unsnowy mountain OST on it, bless :')

@LuminarLight

Жыл бұрын

I have many things on my channel, but this is definitely among the coolest discoveries.

I had zero clue of this. Thanks for sharing. I always wondered what a jak sequel, In the same style has the 1st game, would of been like, I guess this cut level is the closest we will get.

The ending was also supposed to be robot vs robot, maybe inside the mountain was a the robot. It seems after you clear the red vent on that mountain maybe it opens up near the transpad. It looks like there's several blocked vent place holders there. Maybe as you unlock the flut flut, zoomer, and other vents, you're able to complete that area.

Wow there is alot here. A full remaster would be sick revisting all the scraped ideas. I always wondered where the last eco switch was.

New Jak and Daxter content in 2021??? Unbelievable

This zones music is perfect *-*

Happy 20 year anniversary Jak and Daxter! Maybe one day we will see what was beyond that stupid door precursor 🚪 101 baby

It almost looks to me like one you payed the miners it could have opened up? Or maybe they placed the miners to fill the tunnel I may be wrong but that's what it looks like to me

6:20 - It’s like Jak farted his way up.

I still consider the Jak and Daxter games to be Naughty Dog's masterpiece. The story and world building was on another level for the PS2 era, and certainly far above any platformers of the time. Glad I found this video, it does seem like the ending to the game was cut a little bit short. Never opening the Red eco vent was always weird to me.

There was even dialogue recorded for this area probably. I stumbled upon this video of cut TPL dialogue and the are some lines from daxter in there, talking about the red eco vent, a stump and gems. Starts at about 1:48 kzread.info/dash/bejne/dI6go6OAeMayms4.html

I really hope if there's ever a remake/remaster, the cut content is fully restored and included!

It would be cool to get in contact with one of the Devs and work on "finishing" this level so it looks polished and maybe have a few mechanics/missions thrown in that were supposed to be there 🤔😄

It'd be fantastic one day to have a native pc port with all the cut contents like these

@mdude3

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah...

@PhantomRetrospective

2 жыл бұрын

Well, some people are working on decompiling it. From which it could be ported. But restoring this would be its own large-scale project.

This is such a nice level too!

I'm still blown away by this

This level looks so fun. I wish we could add it back into the game.

For those wondering, the composer's name is Josh Mancell.

@Gigamex2

2 ай бұрын

More like Josh Powercell!

This is such cool and fun platforming! I’d love something this open and climby

I grew up with these games so to see them fully explored makes me happier than a gold fish

very interested to play this level, crazy discovery !

I would've preferred this level over spider cave lol. If they were to do a faithful remake of this game and add in this level I think that would be really cool.

Love discoveries like this!

It should be in the final version of the game, because it’s great!

Always wondered where the other eco temples could've been in the world. Really cool to see that this must have been the red one according to some of the cut dialogue.

So sick! Makes you wonder what could be done on a modern game engine with modern day hardware.

the music is bussin tbh

omg! so cool!! i love this thank u

This is a interesting level, I think they should bring it back and put it in the Jak and Daxter remake.

This is cool maybe you went thru the cave where the miners were into this level unlocked the red eco vents then made your way up into the snowy mountain area the fortress at the top really felt like there coulda been a boss battle maybe from there a connection level into a fourth hub area and then the final level idk

This is amazing.

I really like the verticality of this level, let's hope you can find a way to fix it a bit more.

I always found it odd volcanic crater only had two levels instead of three. Along with the area from blue sage to red stage being forestry yet no forest related level. I really hope this gets fully restored when the pc port is finished. I don’t care if the level has cannon quests just as long as we get to experience this level as best as possible. All time favorite game and seeing this brings in nostalgia. Would love to play this some how. Mabey even make it wickedly challenging just because why not? Instead of power cells just place some orbs or something idk but either way this is truly epic and it’s great for us to see