Yokohama AD09 review vs Michelin Cup 2 and Lap Time Comparison

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After running the Michelin Cup 2's for a few years I was keen to give these new Yokohama's a try.
0:00 - Intro
0:25 - At the track
1:11 - Hot Lap
3:12 - Summary & Thoughts

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  • @TheZander1231
    @TheZander12314 ай бұрын

    This is just brilliant, I was looking for a tire to replace my Cup2s with AD09 on my 718 GT4, first search and your video came up. Mine is manual as well and similar setup with camber. Much thanks for the comparison and review 👏🏻

  • @morgandrives
    @morgandrives8 ай бұрын

    Nice! Been a Yokohama fan for many years. Always perform well. Thanks for the video. 👍

  • @sequence_of_noises
    @sequence_of_noises9 ай бұрын

    Lovely car mate. That track looks like good fun, especially at night! Great review and nice driving. ❤

  • @peetd1470
    @peetd147011 ай бұрын

    Great video! Love the Ad09s

  • @Stepo901
    @Stepo90110 ай бұрын

    Very nice telemetry overlay!

  • @fuzagi
    @fuzagi5 ай бұрын

    thanks mate, very concise video. nice driving too

  • @rrems8
    @rrems811 ай бұрын

    very nice versus ! nice tires on good car = perfect combo .enjoy!

  • @CrrazyAl
    @CrrazyAl2 ай бұрын

    Nice video Steve. What are the advans like on the street compared to the cup2’s when it comes to comfort and road noise?

  • @SteveReed33

    @SteveReed33

    2 ай бұрын

    Very similar. Better in the wet with no real downside. I used AD08's in the past and they were extremely noisy but the AD09's aren't really any louder than the Cup 2's.

  • @justingioffre8046
    @justingioffre80462 ай бұрын

    Great work thanks or the info

  • @druscanam
    @druscanam11 ай бұрын

    Nice to hear, also they should be much better on street and in the wet then the Cup 2 as well as last longer too.

  • @SteveReed33

    @SteveReed33

    11 ай бұрын

    Yea I am struggling to see any kind of downside. Faster. Cheaper. Probably better in the wet and have significantly more tread depth. Will update with longer term observations after a few more track days.

  • @druscanam

    @druscanam

    11 ай бұрын

    @@SteveReed33 Just progrss and new technology. The pilot cup 2 was relased early 2014 so it's almost 10 years old like the AD08. Seems like it could be the new halo tyres. Similar to RS4 in wear, treadlife and grip but actutlly good in wet as well as not having that dangerous snap out oversteer or sudden chronic understeer when tyres are not up to temp, in wet, worn or heat cycled. A052 still seems best for low speed sprint events where a softer tyre that gets to temp quickly is ideal although the AD09 is not that far off seems to have better high speed stability, wear and road use. Also the new Bridgestone RE-71 RS that just replaced the RE-71R seems like a good one to try. The old RE-71R seemed very similar to the A052 being very soft fast working and fast wearing although the new RE-71RS seems to now sit between the A052 and the AD09 now having stiffer sidewalls better high speed stability and better wear and street/wet usage as well as like the AD09 now also switching to an Asymmetric pattern for an easy rotate at the track. Might be worth trying those next 👍

  • @SteveReed33

    @SteveReed33

    11 ай бұрын

    Re71 RS are definitely the fastest tyre in this category but they don't make them in 20 inch sizes so not an option for me without downsizing wheels. I plan to try A052's next but they are more expensive and don't last very long so I feel like these AD09's have struck a good balance.

  • @druscanam

    @druscanam

    11 ай бұрын

    @@SteveReed33 Yeah sounds good, I think the AD09's are better for what you want to use them for than the A052's

  • @Dave-bx5fo
    @Dave-bx5fo11 ай бұрын

    Great review, just bought these for my Lotus so will be interesting to see if i get similar results. What cold pressure did you start off with on these?

  • @SteveReed33

    @SteveReed33

    11 ай бұрын

    I was starting around 25/26psi in the front and they didn't roll over at all like the Michelins did. I am going back again this weekend and will take some measurements with the pyro to see how the temps go across the face. Aiming for 30/32psi when hot but will adjust if any measurements are out.

  • @Dave-bx5fo

    @Dave-bx5fo

    11 ай бұрын

    @@SteveReed33 i will be using them Sunday on track for the first time, let's compare notes !

  • @Lukus04

    @Lukus04

    6 ай бұрын

    @@SteveReed33How did you end up going with the temp data? Did you have to alter pressures?

  • @SteveReed33

    @SteveReed33

    6 ай бұрын

    Most measurements I took indicated they were overpressured. I have been running them at about 28/30psi front/rear and getting better temperature readings. The lower I run them the better they seem to perform.

  • @Lukus04

    @Lukus04

    6 ай бұрын

    What temps were you seeing, if you don’t mind me asking? Mine were reaching into the 70’s

  • @prosportauto4922
    @prosportauto49226 ай бұрын

    How are they wearing Steve? We're about to run some on a customer's 991 GT3RS (265/35R20, 325/30R21) and I'm very excited to see the results against a Cup2

  • @SteveReed33

    @SteveReed33

    6 ай бұрын

    I have done about 6-7 track days now plus 2 drift days and they are just starting to reach the wear indicators. Lap times have dropped slightly but are still outperforming Cup 2's. I think the only reason I will ever buy Cup 2's again will be to have on the car when I sell it.

  • @jimg2812
    @jimg281210 ай бұрын

    Great info thanks for posting, what cold & hot pressures do run with the AD09?

  • @SteveReed33

    @SteveReed33

    10 ай бұрын

    I was running about 25PSI cold in the front and they handled that just fine. Can probably go even lower as the pyro was showing signs of overinflation at anything above 30PSI when hot. They handle the lower pressures much, much better than the Michelins do.

  • @jimg2812

    @jimg2812

    10 ай бұрын

    @@SteveReed33 Thanks just ordered these, what about the rear tyres, same as front?

  • @SteveReed33

    @SteveReed33

    10 ай бұрын

    @@jimg2812 Depends on the car but 1-2psi more in the rear for mine.

  • @4timus

    @4timus

    2 ай бұрын

    Hi, did you ever try by any chance 255/35 AD09 on the stock fronts?

  • @z06van21
    @z06van2111 ай бұрын

    AMAZING. Now if Yoko could just get their sh@t together and get the rear size released here in the US. The dates have been pushed 3 times now. Launch date for the rear sizes was supposed to be June 1st here in the US.

  • @andrewking1427
    @andrewking142722 күн бұрын

    Hey man, I also have a gt4 and just picked up a set of these. What PSI are you running front/back that you’ve found works best?

  • @SteveReed33

    @SteveReed33

    22 күн бұрын

    About 1.9Bar front and 2.2Bar rear when hot seems to be a sweet spot, maybe even a little lower in the rear.

  • @lomnt3402
    @lomnt34022 ай бұрын

    what about the behaviour on several laps ? endurance ? What's your point of view on a long term comparison with the Cup2 ?

  • @SteveReed33

    @SteveReed33

    2 ай бұрын

    Much more durable than Cup 2's. They still fall off when they get hot but they definitely hold on better over a stint than Cup 2's do.

  • @lomnt3402

    @lomnt3402

    2 ай бұрын

    @@SteveReed33 they aren’t available in my size (997 gt3 -19’) but I would to test a set of A052 for my next semi slick set especially for wet conditions !

  • @SteveReed33

    @SteveReed33

    2 ай бұрын

    @@lomnt3402 A052 are quite a different tyre. They are faster over 1 lap but nowhere near as durable, and will overheat a lot easier. Good in the wet but not as durable as the AD09.

  • @blackhorsegaming393
    @blackhorsegaming39310 ай бұрын

    I was looking for a solid track tire I can use on the street that wasn't gonna leave me broke my cars gonna be around 500whp I think these should be perfect

  • @jonjoni7939
    @jonjoni79397 ай бұрын

    AD09 is a great tyre.

  • @daveshiroma
    @daveshiroma7 ай бұрын

    What digital dash recorder is that? Factory?

  • @SteveReed33

    @SteveReed33

    7 ай бұрын

    Data is from the Porsche Track Precision app. Visualised using a custom RaceRender template.

  • @footageaerial3447
    @footageaerial34472 ай бұрын

    Are those cup 2's N0 porsche code? Or just regular cup 2's?

  • @SteveReed33

    @SteveReed33

    2 ай бұрын

    They are the N1 Porsche ones.

  • @cox1974
    @cox19747 ай бұрын

    Waiting the ad 09 for the FL5.... I hate that they are not available in the correct size for my 992 gt3

  • @prosportauto4922

    @prosportauto4922

    5 ай бұрын

    Just run the 265/35R20 front and 325/30R20 rear then?

  • @cox1974

    @cox1974

    5 ай бұрын

    Size not legal in Italy

  • @OKMX5
    @OKMX57 ай бұрын

    Try Yokohama A052 to go even quicker. But they wear out very quickly.

  • @SteveReed33

    @SteveReed33

    7 ай бұрын

    Yep I plan to do that eventually, but they are more expensive as well as less durable so unless I really need that extra lap time I am good.

  • @FreestylerAlbert
    @FreestylerAlbert4 ай бұрын

    Andthe AD09R will still come. (I hope)

  • @stickshiftdriver
    @stickshiftdriver15 күн бұрын

    In Europe unfortunately they are not available in the standard size 245/35 20“ anyone knows if 255/35 20“ is going fine instead? (on original GT4 wheels)

  • @SteveReed33

    @SteveReed33

    15 күн бұрын

    I was planning to try the 255's to get some more front tyre but I have had enough clearance issues as it is with standard sizes. They definitely make them in 245 so i'm surprised you can't get them!

  • @17t135i
    @17t135i11 ай бұрын

    Like the look of these as my AR1's are not streetable , way too loud

  • @telly586
    @telly5864 ай бұрын

    Your front discs are the other way around .... the grooves need to face forward.

  • @SteveReed33

    @SteveReed33

    4 ай бұрын

    I would rather the grooves face backwards than the cooling vanes tyvm.

  • @martyp6632
    @martyp663211 ай бұрын

    Don't undersell yourself Sandbags

  • @billlakstins406
    @billlakstins4065 ай бұрын

    try new cup 2 s next time. poor test without new for new tyres

  • @SteveReed33

    @SteveReed33

    5 ай бұрын

    My Cup 2 Lap time was with brand new tyres. I had been pegged to my previous PB for over a year through multiple sets of Cup 2's and these tyres wiped the floor with them in a single night.

  • @frenchLeon
    @frenchLeon5 ай бұрын

    Without a G-G diagram the comparison is not really useful.

  • @SteveReed33

    @SteveReed33

    5 ай бұрын

    Jesus some of you guys are hard to please. Will you settle for a side by side? kzread.info/dash/bejne/i3-eppZwiqybptI.html

  • @GethinJames

    @GethinJames

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@SteveReed33 why even bother with these kinds of comments? Lol.

  • @mrmysterious6006
    @mrmysterious600610 ай бұрын

    I have always used yokohama. The new ad09 is a superb overall tyre and they perform well in wet conditions and last longer. One of the best advantages over the Michelin is the steering feel and off centre sharpness. I do not use michelins for this reason as the sidewalls are too soft which gives a numb steering response and when driving at the limit the tyre feels like it wants to roll over and feels squishy. And they are overpriced for what they deliver. I bet off the bat, you would have noticed the better steering.

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