I hope you all enjoy the video :) As usual I'd REALLY appreciate you reviewing your own tyres at www.tyrereviews.com/submit.htm WHATEVER the tyres are, it really helps me continue to make content like this. Also a follow on instagram will help, instagram.com/tyre_reviews

@rodtukker1904

2 жыл бұрын

Do you think if you run down the thread of summer tires and achieve the slick performance?

@XQUADRA1

2 жыл бұрын

100% the results were interesting

@DashCamSerbia

2 жыл бұрын

@@rodtukker1904 Maybe for a short distance, because they would burst soon, I think. :D

@andyowens5494

2 жыл бұрын

@@rodtukker1904 Nope. At that point you will have worn away the grippy stuff, and you're left with the structural rubber - its tough, but not anything like as grippy. And its death-on-wheels in all but bone dry conditions.

@skippy2987

2 жыл бұрын

Does shaving road tyres make much difference on a tarmac track? On dirt speedway I used to groove my tyres by hand and came up with improvements. I'd get about a meeting (30 400m laps) before needing to swap and rotate tyres, regroove them for the third meeting, and by the time that was over I had no tread block left to reshape. If I had the ability to shave tyres to reduce block distortion I would definitely have tried it to see if the tyres lasted any longer

All my tyres eventually become slicks

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

:( rip rubber

@JamesJames-yp8zy

2 жыл бұрын

You are lucky man! In my home country asphalt is so bad you really have to burn clutch to make slicks!

@skippy2987

2 жыл бұрын

Next video "are road compound slicks any faster?" :p

@russcattell955i

2 жыл бұрын

In the 70's my mate loved his Dunlop "Kojaks" on his Cortina GT, until it rained.

@WingsOfADream1

2 жыл бұрын

this guy gets it.

I think we can all agree that every car guy has been wondering about putting slicks on at some point, and now we know we should, at least once. Then fall in love with it and spend all our money on tyres. 😂

@supaahflyy

2 жыл бұрын

😂 slicks or even semi slicks should be left if you're ultra rich or have a F1 team backing you with cash. Seems a costly hobby haha

@bence.gabor.slezak

2 жыл бұрын

@Ching Chong I don't think running a tyre to the cords will magically change the compound of it, but good luck! I'll soon have a pair of Falkens you could test your theory with. 225/40R18 Let me know if you're interested!

@Petrezen1982

2 жыл бұрын

@@supaahflyy I can see from your comment that you never had or driven car with semi slick tires. You are completly wrong.

@Petrezen1982

2 жыл бұрын

I had semi slick Yokohama 17" 225 tires Advean Novea and I can tell that I was driving on rain 250km/h with no problems, braking, steereng etc. On sunny day it's like changing whole car in comparison with normal tires. It impacts whole performance. Skills and driving technics are equaly important if pushing to new limits but semi slick are my only tires for private car summer time.

@thechillywinds5810

2 жыл бұрын

Running falken rt660s on the street and I think thats as hardcore as I need to get lol. Incredibly sticky tho

OMG this is a test I've been dying to see, brilliant video again mate, love the shots of the inside rear lifting non stop... I would love to turn up to a track day with slicks, imagine how fast a lap of Goodwood would be 😂 Keep up the great work mate 🏁

@adamthompson6669

2 жыл бұрын

Nice M2 😉

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

"How fast around Goodwood are you?" "Yes"

@nickgooris6761

2 жыл бұрын

I was amused by that lift off by the rear tyres. Also i'll be curious what you'll do with your M2 or M3 on Goodwood with slicks

@lewdyson4744

2 жыл бұрын

Get it done joe!

@dragospahontu

2 жыл бұрын

@@nickgooris6761 if you put slicks on a road car it will destroy your suspension.

6:49 that's really cool, there's so much grip it's lifting up the inside rear wheel like a kart

@SolamenteVees

2 жыл бұрын

Back in the day we called that the GTI wave. 👋🏻

I like that "garbled/rushed" format ... finally a video that readily gives me information without having to endure endless intros . Thanks !

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

So is it difficult to keep heat in the rears when they're not actually touching the track?

@johnhufnagel

2 жыл бұрын

That hyundai sure likes to lift that leg in the corners. :D

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

haha, rear tyre temp was never really an issue after a warmup lap which surprised me. The car was setup for understeer though out of factory

@damncritics

2 жыл бұрын

It's probably easier actually because it means much more load on the tyre that's still touching the ground.

@richardsmith5249

2 жыл бұрын

I had a Mk I Golf that would do that, a lot of years ago. It had to be properly provoked, mind.

@Fastvoice

2 жыл бұрын

@Richard: Don't forget that also braking induces heat into the tyres - via the brake discs and rims. 😉

The part where you had the right rear tire slightly off the ground for like 5 seconds was impressive. I'm probably not brave enough to do that!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Close your eyes and turn hard (not actual advice)

@Drnken229

2 жыл бұрын

to stiff suspension, if we would have gone with a bit softer setting they wouldnt have went airborne.. so you dont have to be brave or anything, just happens depending on the road/track and your suspension

@fredygump5578

2 жыл бұрын

@@Drnken229 The truth is the exact opposite of what you said. The car is diving to the front outside corner because front springs (in combination with the suspension geometry) are too soft to prevent that amount of roll. And the rear springs are too stiff for this specific configuration. Why? Because it is a 4 door passenger car, not a single seat race car. If it was optimized for handling with just the driver, it would drive poorly when fully loaded.

@Drnken229

2 жыл бұрын

@@fredygump5578 oops, might be the other way around then :D

@MusangLaut2

2 жыл бұрын

welcome to fwd world 😎

Tyre Reviews always tells you the benchmark tyre, but more importantly, Tyre Reviews is the benchmark tyre review.

I’ll never fail to be impressed by you ability to both drive at speed and talk to camera as well as your actual tyre testing ability. From what your channel shows you have quite possibly the best job in the world

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

There's lots of late nights working in an office on my own, but I'm definitely very lucky too!

Crazy to think that just changing tyres can equate to a 6-7 Second lap time improvement. That is insane performance. Thanks for the vid!

@s70driver2005

14 күн бұрын

I've always seen it as it's better to do tires and suspension before doing power mods. Power only helps during accel. Tires and sus help during accel, deccel and turning.

I really appreciate the work you do. I like your honest opinion about the tires you test and I understand why you don't often get to comment about tires across brands versus within brands. On a purely numbers based comparison, track times tell you where brands will rank so long as the platforms are roughly similar. Please continue your testing and keep up the great work.

I was a car nut in the 90s... One thing this video exemplifies is how much more advanced cars are now. Sporty version of a pretty pedestrian car with this level of performance is really impressive. Love how it's so rigid that it's picking up the back tire on the sweeping corners.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

It's a really impressive little hot hatch. It would be a different story on a 1.4 Nova

@TassieLorenzo

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews A Nova (or general city car supermini) tyre test would be fun!

Another great test. Very interesting to hear you enjoyed the slick on a street focused hot hatch, and that lap time advantage is insane.

Looks like fun, but be aware. Road car suspension is not designed to handle this sort of G loads, so slicks will quickly wear out your stock suspension components/bushings. Exposed paint areas will suffer from the soft compound aggressively picking up all the rocks. Savagegeese made a good video on that subject.

@johnhufnagel

2 жыл бұрын

You gotta pay to play. painter's tape along the sensitive edges is always a good idea. It even comes in colors now so you can be decorative at track days! :D

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Pay to play lol. Yeah I mention about the extra wear, I'll check out Savagegeese video :)

@krzych91krk

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews Agreed - pay to play. Here's the title of the video I referred to in case anyone's interested - "Are High Performance Tires Worth It? | The Fine Print". Would be great to see this channel's take on that subject at some point :)

@thehawk05

2 жыл бұрын

Chris is spot on with his points……notably suspension components. Back in the day a friend used to track his car and tried slicks one weekend. Went faster than he ever had of course but the cost was it destroyed several of the control arm bushings (which were rubber still as it was still a street car) Never had that problem when he ran DOT R compound tires.

Having just done my very first track day, this is a video I needed. Thanks!

Great video! When I used to do trackdays, getting a set of (used) slicks was usually the first modification. 6 seconds on a 1:30 lap, with same suspension and same power to weight... all the improvement coming from just braking, corner and corner exit speed. bonkers!

This channel is so underrated, awesome video again!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy :)

I absolutely love the test. Shame the day didn't go as planned, but it's a great learning experience that you can put towards an even better video in the future. Those tire shots were fantastic. The front tires weren't just rolling onto the shoulder, they were right on the sidewall! Perhaps in the next video you could use a RWD car. I think a modern M3 (paddle shifts) would work well.

OMG it is already an amazing info for a claimed to be 'rushed' video.. Can't imagine if it was in depth.. Cheers! 🥳

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Aw thanks!

As always, the way you describe your experience, opinion and facts that every amateur can understand is astonishing. Thanks Jonathan!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! :D

This was really interesting! Really looking forward to a more in depth test in the future EDIT: Also would be very interested in suspension damage/wear from using slicks all day on an otherwise stock car, but that probably exceeds the scope of a simple YT video

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

It does sadly! Rubber bushes would be the main thing to go first, but then I'd be worried about oil starvation etc

Man, all your clips are great. Whether it's something informative, or fun content like this (I say fun, 'cause most of us don't drive at track at all, for some it's reality though). Also, unlike so many other channels, you actually talk to/help your audience. Keep it up! P.S. I followed your advice and kept WR A4 for winter. Tyre is great!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them, I look forward to seeing your review on site :)

6:24 i like how you say pfpfpfp just as the tyre goes on the ripple strip. Nice editing touch lol

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Not intentional lol

Great great job Jonathan!!!We can’t find these type of videos!!Very useful and interesting!!!The most underestimated KZread channel!!!Million subs channel!!!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! :D

That sidewall deflection at 3:40 😮

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Looks bad but is actually fairly normal for road tyres!

@UnProj

9 ай бұрын

Check the deflection at 6:18

Super interesting comparison!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

This test is fantastic!! Please don’t ever stop!

That real is a considerable time difference, coming down 3 seconds a set! That fuel surge would make me loose the plot. I'd love to see some tyre testing on GR Yaris as being the car of the moment, it would be interesting to see what a difference of tyres would make being a 4WD small hyperhatch.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

It's surprisingly common, I had the same issue on an M2 at 1/3rd tank remaining :( Would love to test with the GR sometime, I've still not driven one!

@79blustone

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews Was that the Competition or pre 2018/9? I wonder if they changed the internal dimensions so the fuel pick up pipe doesn't starve? Epic car though 👌. You really need to drive one (Yaris GR with circuit pack), don't listen to the hype, make your own judgement, but it is crazy how it delivers power in each of the drive modes- (sport) rear bias pushes you into the corner the 'normal' setting gives you the feeling of pulling you into the corners much like a front wheel drive should- but with slight effort made from the opposing axle for a subtle bit of grip (can't be switched 100% to front or rear wheel only, 4WD still has a slight effect). The sheer cornering speed will have you grinning from ear to ear. Most of the torque is low down- quite similar to an E.V, its different from say an M3 or M4 Competition. Its a different type of fun, definitely try and borrow one for a tyre test! (Be careful as the wheels are £1600 each without tyres!)I could imagine a lot of people would be very keen to see something here. 👍

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

@@79blustone It was a non-comp, they have updated it in the comp a little, however I've still experienced it around 1/4 tank

@calorus

2 жыл бұрын

GR Yaris + Slicks = A broken neck.

@adriendebosse6941

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews Just to add a bit of a warning about the time differences, the setups didn't have the same alloy wheels. The differences were maybe minimal, but if the wheels are really different, it can mean a lot in handling and accelerating :)

I've done that for real as well, in the Merdeka Millennium Enduraces races in Malaysia. Did five of them, the first two or three were done on road tyres (rules) and the last two or three were done on slicks. The lap time for the road tyres was about 2:52 I think and on the slicks about 2:46. The car was an AE-101 Corolla.

OMG YOU LITTERALY MADE A VIDEO ABOUT WHAT I ASKED!! Thanks a lotttt!!!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Just for you :)

Can’t wait for these results , great work 👊🏽

Thanks for that video! That was the most entertaining video on a subject that I didn’t think I was interested in, ever. I can only imagine what I felt like to drive that car after changing to track day and then slick tires. Envious here, though it’s looks like you had a long frustrating day at the track. Thanks for the effort. Well done

Thank you for meticulous reviews. I really enjoy watching and learning new things about tires. Writing ✍️ my reviews for all the tires I have used.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your reviews :)

@PaylasYorum

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews you’re welcome ☺️

So moral of the story, we need slicks!!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! And race cars

Whoa, would never have imagined that diff for the slicks. Thanks for the video

It was the one I was hoping for ! I hope you will do the second one with more data.

Man, i really love this channel!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude :)

I had a set of ex-BTCC slicks on my Mitsubishi EVO 6 TME at Croft, I agree with your comment about pressing the brake pedal ridiculously hard, I thought I was going to pull the wheels off the car, it was immense!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Nice car :D

@horrgakx

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews Thanks. Have some content on KZread, wish I'd kept it now :)

It’s no wonder you got faster times from the first tyre to the second one you’re driving on the left side we here across the pond drive on the right making the tread pattern have more contact on the track 😜😜seriously this video proves how much tread pattern and thickness has on the rolling resistance those are awesome results cheers from Canada

Thank you for fulfilling my suggestion with this video, it made my terrible day way better. Now I'm currently looking for some decently used slicks as a start LOLOL.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

Thank you for this. You sound very rushed, but never the less, the video quality is amazing as always. You're a legend.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

I love this channel, you do amazing work!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Tried slicks on a Caterham R500, it was a bizarre feeling but once they were warm it would literally drive around the outside of anything on the track. I could walk around the outside of a 997 GT3 RS like it wasn't there. It was hilarious.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds fun :D

easy sub & like for me, very informative, good camera angle showing the preformance and behaviour of the tyre wall. yeh good video mate

Awesome video and a great comparison for track day tyres. About twenty years ago now I had an E30 M3 Sport Evolution which was running around 275 bhp with twin injection running a stand alone Motec ECU, Shrick cams and a custom air box, it was stripped, fully caged and was running 3 way adjustable coil overs with adjustable anti roll bars (I know, sacrilege to do that to a Sport Evo, but back then they were only worth about £12K!). I used to run slicks on track and the thing was awesome, however, I was forever changing bushes and god knows what else due to running slicks. The slicks on track were a world apart from the Bridgestone S02's that I used as a road tyre and back in the day the S02 was a really good road tyre.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

I loved the S02, and what a car that sounded like. Did you ever consider just replacing the bushes with metal parts so the wear would be less of an issue

@andyohara1393

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews Yep the S02 was an awesome tyre especially for the E30 M3. The M3 did end up being rose jointed and poly bushed, it was excellent on track but an absolute nightmare on road especially with the upgraded diff I was also running. It's one of those things where I wanted to always go that extra bit and ended up selling it as it was and bought a Caterham Superlight R as a track car and ran that on Yokohama AO48s and Nitron coil overs, that was awesome too.

i always was curios about this, thank you for this amazing video

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Great test! Have been wondering about this myself. Long time user of semi slicks but never made the jump to slicks, because I drive to the track.

Awesome review! Such a great test! I've often thought about this! Definitely do a follow-up video!

You missed out on tyre pressure and wheel allignment for these tyres, please do another ep on this :)

Reviewing some of the known tyres, as Federal 595 RS-PRO vs Nankang AR-1s or NS-2Rs, etc would be awesome. Keep up the good work!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

It's on the list :)

@TranceFur

2 жыл бұрын

I’d love to see a test including NS-2Rs, as I used to run them on a daily/autoX E36. Absolutely horrendous on the street, but my god, the braking and cornering grip felt insane!

@HidRomail

2 жыл бұрын

@@TranceFur I used NS-2Rs, and moved to Federal 595 RS-PRO, and I felt that the grips is better in Federals and also, they don't tend to loose grip when hot. I had a pretty good scare with those on a very fast turn. For me RS-PRO > NS-2R

@ironingbored

2 жыл бұрын

I ran NS2Rs over 2 years of wet Welsh road use, in an Alfa Giulietta. I thought they were superior to decent road tyres I had used before - PS4 inclusive. Not as bad in the wet on an FWD car as maybe they'd be when cold on a RWD car. In fact I found them to be very good in the wet. But immense amounts of fun in the dry.

Well done! I didn't think the differences would be that great.

Man this is the comparison that i have been dying to watch for 🤣🤣 Great videos as always, now i can finally see how much the time difference between track tyre and slick tyre

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

I hope you enjoyed!

There's a serious difference. Years ago I did some hillclimbing. Pretty much standard cars but with suspension and bolt on tweaks. Tyre choice was probably the biggest difference. Started on a standard road tyre, then progressed to a softer compound and finally a road legal "slick". Absolutely crazy difference. Also tyre pressure made a shocking difference too

@Sunny-s1de

2 жыл бұрын

Higher or lower pressure for more grip?

@TheBlaert

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sunny-s1de slightly lower. Too low though and you risk the tyre coming off the rim

Great test again, really interesting stuff! I went ahead and put Cup 2's on my 992 Turbo after watching reviews here on the channel and getting some great advice. My concern obviously was if track day tires would work on my daily driver, and so far they do (I am being extra careful in the rain). Now I want to try slicks on it at my next track day!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus, a 992 turbo on slicks would be quite frankly insane. I'm not sure there would be a faster car possible.

@djsomeguy

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews you have to wonder where the breaking (not braking) point is for drivetrain/suspension components with that much grip on what is already a very grippy car.

@RRWerken

2 жыл бұрын

I would advise consulting Porsche for the ability to run slicks for a track day. Be aware that slicks will increase the stress on your drivetrain by a substantial amount.

@time2driveohio151

2 жыл бұрын

@@RRWerken slicks will void warrenty too

This is your best test thus far.! Love it!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

Awesome test video! Dude you keep banging out quality vids that just give us punters quality info. Much appreciated.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

:D

great stuff! would love to see a "faster car" on the road tyre vs something like the i30n on slicks just for fun :D

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

That would be fun! Seeing an I30N troubling a GT3 lol

@stephensmith2027

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews Toyota GR Yaris vs Toyota GR Supra ;)

Awesome!! Looking forward to more of this. Maybe you can explain the sizes and numbering systems of slicks over standard sizes next time somehow :)

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Good idea :)

@serenahansen2394

2 жыл бұрын

It looks as though they use the width in mm, outside diameter of the tyre in mm, and the wheel diameter in inches. With the size given as 235/645 R18, an 18" tyre with that kind of profile (similar to the road-biased 245/40 R18 used earlier in the video), would be around 650mm in overall diameter.

@Fastvoice

2 жыл бұрын

@@serenahansen2394 Sounds about right. The Yokohama A005 rear slicks on my old NSX were called 250/610-17 S04. So we have tyre width in mm (which is usually just an approximate value), tyre outside diameter in mm, rim size in inches and compound mix (S for soft, the lower the number, the softer the compound AFAIK).

Great review, I was super curious about these. Because you asked in your video, I'm in the process of writing 6 or so tire reviews.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

That's awesome, thank you!

Finally John your on slicks! Been waiting good few years and your there. Please showcase in future video all slicks available on the market and test those and price them up too so me and my mates can make informed decision what to try on track next in my M3

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

haha, I'll try!

Amazing video ! Would be interesting to see this test done on a RWD car .

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

I was trying but finding the car / sizes was tricky

@Fastvoice

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews Try 210/610R17 on a GT86 or BRZ. Or maybe 230/650R18 on the new GR 86. 😉

6:50 love it how the tires actually lift the back end of the car up under heavy braking and cornering!

Awesome test!! Thanks so much for doing this - really cool.

I envious of all that seat time in the i30N since we don't get those in North America. Great test and reminds me of switching from 500 UTQG all seasons to RE71s for autocross. It was like getting a new car.

You should on occasion review cars as well on track. We will watch, promise.

Great video as always. You are so good at this. I was interested when you mentioned that you wished you weren't in the car's stiffer "sport or track" mode because of all the bouncing around. This might be out of your wheelhouse a bit, but lately I've been thinking/wondering if it is ACTUALLY true that a stiffer suspension set-up is faster around a track? Would love to see you run a test including that parameter as well!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

I've almost shot that video before but ran out of time! It's something I definitely plan on doing :)

@user-fy2qq2ih4d

2 жыл бұрын

Some say the N are a stiff cars overall, as for hothatches. Do you agree?

@bilaltariq7819

2 жыл бұрын

Stiffer springs will work better with rcomps and improve transient response, so on a smoothish track they would be better

@TassieLorenzo

2 жыл бұрын

I think it depends on how bumpy the track is and how intense the corner loads are. Apparently in the V8 Supercars they run the whole range from 4 kg/mm (so close to a sporty road car) at street circuits where they need to ride kerbs, up to 20 kg/mm (i.e., rock-solid) at circuits like Bathurst where there are high speed corners with elevation change and they need to stop the car bottoming out.

Great idea for a vid and great execution. Enjoyed this.

This video comes at the perfect moment as I just did a track day last evening, with normal road tyres and I really saw how much better were some cars with track day tyres and slicks. It was more than obvious, they were just much faster everywhere! My MPS4 were overheating after max 4 laps or so, they were the most limiting factor on the day. Great video, thank you!

@andypark1694

2 жыл бұрын

ps4s is stupid expensive but a damn good road tire. not bad on track for a street tire but overheats and heat cycles out too fast.

@alenseven11

2 жыл бұрын

@@andypark1694 You are right. Mine are only ps4, not the "s" model, so even worse for track. I couldn't get the S in my size unfortunately.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

The Goodyear F1 SS is way better on track as a road tyre

@alenseven11

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews You are completely right, I have GY SS on my other car and they are fantastic!

Awesome video! The right tyres for the occasion is the only way to improve a new car dynamically and not void your warranty. Have you considered testing lightweight rims + tyres against same size "regular" rims and tyres? Wondering how much reducing unsprung mass would affect performance and grip, especially on a FWD car, where a lot more is expected from the front wheels.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I have! I'm excited to find a time to test it!

@pacolicious

2 жыл бұрын

That's a very good question. I'm curious

@LackundLeder

2 жыл бұрын

@Deniz: Very good question! As far as I know, reducing 1kg each wheel will equal into 28kg less "weight". Reducing 2kg each wheel reduces like 56kg "weight" .. and so on. So maybe not sooo much than you expect. Buuut, if you are able to reduce unused stuff in your car like ChrisFix showed us, plus put some slicks onto it, you´re the king! Link to ChrisFix, very interessting test cause he also measured the time gap: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f3edsKmmp9LWqJc.html

@tire_reviews

2 жыл бұрын

@@LackundLeder Thanks for the link, I'll give it a watch. Rotational inertia is certainly a big deal for longitudinal grip, but less so for lateral so that "56kgs" isn't quite 56 around a track :) It will still be a very interesting test

@TassieLorenzo

2 жыл бұрын

@@LackundLeder That's way overrated IMO, I think it's more like 1kg of unsprung rotational mass being worth about 4kg. There's a test that a UK magazine did on a Fiesta ST150 years ago. I think the lightweight Team Dynamics wheels with the same tyres were worth about 1-1.5s of lap time compared to the OEM wheels, but the 0-60mph time was slower in the wet with the lighter wheels as there was increased wheelspin (as the lighter wheels reduced the drivetrain loss and therefore effectively increased the amount of wheel horsepower I guess, or maybe just because they had less inertia).

I wonder if the compound for the Pirelli P Zero PZ4 changed. Those were my first UHP tires on my Mk7 GTI and tracked them for one day back in 2017. They slide all over the place. Threw them away, after collecting a puncture, and went with the Michelin Pilot 4S. Same set lasted about 6 to 7 track days. They provided much more confidence than the Pirellis. I haven't looked back since.

@kenzohkw

2 жыл бұрын

Pirelli seem to have poor road tyres. I've seen a set of Pirellis delaminate on a Clio 220 after a few hot laps and they weren't even a year old!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

I think there must have been a big update, I'll check

@ApothecaryTerry

2 жыл бұрын

Would definitely be interesting to know if they've been updated, there doesn't seem to be any obvious info suggesting that but various forums don't seem to like the PZ4s (although certain forums, especially Porsche ones, are pretty anti-Pirelli anyway) but I stuck a set on last week and have been very pleasantly surprised. They're not perfect but they're certainly better than I'd been led to believe.

Such a cool video, didn't expect to see racing slicks tested. Hopefully we'll get a more in depth video in the future.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Pepe is the best meme

I'm learning a lot from you guys, thanks for doing what you do!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks :D

I might have to look into slicks for my Type R. At least for track use. That would mean different rims to fit the 245/40 tyres, but that's fine, I guess.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Just be aware things wear out much more quickly!

@Fastvoice

2 жыл бұрын

@Cerberus: You'll need a 2nd set of rims anyway if you drive to and from the track with the Civic (with mounted slicks in the trunk). 😉

@CerberusTenshi

2 жыл бұрын

@@tyrereviews True. Most people seem to go through multiple brake pads and even brake disks on track in way less kilometers than my Type R has on it now. Plus oil, bushings and more.

@CerberusTenshi

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fastvoice I have 18 inch rims for my winter tyres, but those are 235/40. So it's not, that I don't already have a second set of wheels, that I could use for track tyres during the Summer and than put winter tyres on again. They are just the wrong size. Also, over here in Germany, driving on slicks is illegal. I wouldn't be caught dead doing something that stupid.

@Fastvoice

2 жыл бұрын

@@CerberusTenshi Du hast mich wohl missverstanden. Du kannst problemlos 230-650er 18-Zoll-Slicks (die häufig tatsächlich etwas breiter sind) auf deine 18-Zoll-Felgen montieren und die dann im Kofferraum zur Rennstrecke transportieren und dort montieren. Auch 240-640er gehen. Slicks auf der Straße sind natürlich überall illegal - auch bei uns in Deutschland.

Would love to see more details (from another test session maybe) taking the temps into the equation. As you know by design, slicks optimal temp is higher, allowing to be more aggressive with the setup and staying out longer, but they might be more limited in the amount of heat cycles they allow. Also storage temps are important (don’t go too low). In short: there’s more than laptimes to think about. (my opinion)

@JackMott

2 жыл бұрын

not all slicks have higher operating temps. and generally you consider only laptimes and if the life time is less you just pay more money to get new ones more often. such is racing.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I'd love to do all this too but it needs more time (and money :( )

The Best TIRES TEST Chanel in Internet. Ever... We love you. 🌹

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you :D

Wish this vid is 30 minutes long. Thanks for the amazing content and props to Pirelli 👏

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks :D

Hold on is no one going to comment that he is literally wearing a calculator on his wrist.😂

@tire_reviews

2 жыл бұрын

FINALLY SOMEONE NOTICED :D/

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

10 points :D

Thank you again for the great content! How did the rim width compare between the different tires? As a side note for future videos topics, I would really like to know if the same width tire would behave any differently with different rim widths or not.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Wdiths same, different offsets slightly. I actually have that high on my list of things to do as it's something I want to know too!

@kristinahylton5514

Жыл бұрын

Tire Rack recently made a video on tire width vs Wheel width. Surprisingly a wider tire is not always faster, and sometimes is slower than a narrow tire on a properly sized rim.

Great Job man! Excellent video!!

Once again another super useful comparison. I have thought about going the slick route a few times(currently on Rival S 1.5's), but as you mentioned, the wear and tear on wheel bearings, bushings etc. always kept me away. Back before all the "200tw" tires were out, I ran Toyo Ra1's on my cars, which were the hot tire at the time, but even those were very hard on suspension components. These days, I feel like unless its a full time track car, the current crop of 200tw tires strikes a good balance between on track ability and street usability. If I ever can justify having truck, trailer and full time track car, then I will for sure go with slicks.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

I'd imagine the 1.5's are pretty tough too!

I once told the police I was on racing slicks. They didn’t believe me.

@alexdory900

2 жыл бұрын

:)))))

Great test, great to see the different on the pirelli and from road tires to semi, to slick Look forward to more like this please 👌🏻🤘🏻👍🏻 Well done and great info, even if it was cut short 👍🏻

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

perfect test. im running the i30n as well on track thanks!

Don't fit slicks on your track car unless you upgrade your oil circulation system otherwise oil starvation is real and bye bye engine!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Yep!

@a.villar6291

2 жыл бұрын

What? Why?

@zoka7108

2 жыл бұрын

@@a.villar6291 G-forces interrupt oiling

@a.villar6291

2 жыл бұрын

@@zoka7108 that's logic! I've never thought about that, but it makes sense

Beautiful video! I always had this question on my mind and i finally have an answer!

Thank you for doing this video! (Would love to see the Yaris GR test)

Amazing review. Thanks for the run down.

Good job mate..very interesting information for someone who does track days

Another incredible review!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Thanks very much fot what you do. You give a lot of information to us that are so valuable. Thanks

I didn't know before that there is slick tires !!! Anyway after watching your videos I have decided to buy continental ts860 fir my car. Thank you for helping in choosing my next tyre.

amazing video! really really useful! I've been trying to find info like this for ages!

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Love how the car is lifting the inner rear tire! Great comparison!

Lovely 3 wheeling action and really interesting video as usual!💯

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 👍

Trofeo R tyres are my favourite track tyre atm, the wear rate on them is awesome even when you push them HARD 👍

Cervesina, nice track, happy to see you guys in italy.

Wicked video mate! Enjoyed this.

@tyrereviews

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks !

Good job at breaking the stigma of using slicks on track. Hardly anyone uses them on track days, with the exception of race cars. I've been using them for a while now and pretty much found the same time differences as yourself, around 2-3 seconds a lap over a decent semi slick. The benefits for me are they are cheap as chips used if you find a race team that uses your size and compound, and they last longer than semi slicks IME on a

really, really interesting vid! I think that the natural progression if you do this comparison again if to try it on a rwd car, to compare both