This is a 25 min piece of art - satirical edutained genre defying expression of commentary. I'm a big big fan and part of the nobody collective!

@thekeysman6760

Ай бұрын

I didn't see your name in the Nobodies* Collective list of supporters.

@stevengill1736

Ай бұрын

Sounds like a fun outfit....hey, did the narrator really say "indeed comrades" and "nerd friend"? ;^=[} PS: the AI mutated Beach Boys song was, err ...OK....

@eti313

Ай бұрын

@@thekeysman6760 I did.

I can't believe how underrated this channel is!

@thekeysman6760

Ай бұрын

Why do you think it's underrated?

@mushroomsouper4578

Ай бұрын

@@thekeysman6760 Subs(K)→Subs(M)

@artembaguinski9946

Ай бұрын

@@thekeysman6760 Sure, here’s a possible reply from the first user explaining their opinion: --- I think it’s a combination of a few things. First off, the content is super niche. Not everyone is into AI and music, especially when they’re mixed together in such a creative and unconventional way. A lot of people might not even know this kind of content exists because it’s so unique. Also, the algorithm tends to favor more mainstream content, so gems like this can get lost in the shuffle. But that’s what makes this channel so special! It’s a hidden treasure for those who appreciate innovative and thought-provoking content. Plus, the production quality is top-notch, and the way the host blends humor with deep technical insights is truly one-of-a-kind. It’s only a matter of time before more people catch on and realize how brilliant this channel is! 🌟

look there aren't many YT channels where i'll not only be asked to be notified but also comment on the premiere 17 hours early

@peppepop

Ай бұрын

Yeah, this was a first for me 🎉

@marylewis3311

Ай бұрын

I was wondering where is Nobody and then saw this.

I loved this video, but that finale showed me one thing. AI is nowhere close to replicating the sound of Aphex Twin.

@DreamArtScientists

14 күн бұрын

Check out Suno and Udio, if you haven't already. They can create quite well many different styles of music with quite good quality.

No, AI won't "save" music as music doesn't need to be saved. It is a human thing. Remember, the 'industry' is not music.

@wholeness

Ай бұрын

this won't age well 😂

@NEEDSHES

Ай бұрын

Thank you!

@stevengill1736

Ай бұрын

Yup, we'll see what happens... it'll be both - some will make Muzak (is that still a thing?), others will dream up unimaginable things.. ..the future's so bright ya gotta wear shades!

@frencbm

Ай бұрын

Has anyone on here seen “Baseketball”? People are missing the point. Basketball::Professional sports as This :: AI and the Music Industry. Brilliantly sarcastic and funny, and, dark. If we’re stuck on this ride I’m gonna laugh my way through it..

@5thdigit

Ай бұрын

Ai is learning from the best to make the best

AI has FINALLY revealed HOW Bach could play such complex pieces: it was clearly the 6th finger appearing as needed.

"It has no preconcived notions of what music should sound like" I disagre. ALL it has is preconcived notions of what music sounds like because that is it's training data. You can get random seed mixtures of the latent space adjusting to your prompt but nothing truly inovative because It does not have a true understanding as we do of what music is, Its history, theory or the cultural context of today. It can not convey a human experience or emotion because it has not had one. What it does is It convay a mixture of the data of humans musical output. If you say trained it on a singer you could capture a data fingerprint of their cadance or tonal character but in a song context something will be missing in the output because it is not performing that song it is synthisyzing it from a network of data from many songs. It is combinig a network of output. When humans create music not only do we have the connections in our brains from outputs of music that we have heard but it also mixes with a network of connections from outputs of life experience, music theory and a knowledge of what has been done in music and a emotion or new concept that we want to express. not just consolodated connecitons in our brain from the output of music we have heard.

@omgzo

Ай бұрын

my thoughts exactly! following this argument that AI has no "preconcived notion of how music should sound like" we should be able to prompt it with "something you've never heard before" and that just wouldn't work because it requires music that's already been put out.

@juan_ta

Ай бұрын

@@omgzo Oh! I'll try it right now!!

@glOOmyART

25 күн бұрын

this is the most straight forward and accurate definition of what AI is i've ever seen

@imanagemydamage

21 күн бұрын

at first I thought the same, but I think it is precisely because of that it's not really connected to the "right" context that something new shall emerge, some kind of new aesthetic. what do you think?

AI music feels like the next step in the evolution of sampling. When sampling first started, many people doubted its creativity. Yet, artists like RZA and Dilla have shown how transformative it can be. AI is similar - it’s a tool. Like a paintbrush, it's value comes from the creativity of the person using it. Brilliant work!

@thekeysman6760

Ай бұрын

Its* values, no apostrophe saying it is values or implying belonging to it. Ours. Theirs. Its. No apostrophe for belonging to and it's/it is already exists. And as an instrumental musician, writer, and recording artist I respectfully disagree with your belief.

@thekeysman6760

Ай бұрын

The sampler is and was cool. 'AI' created music is a different medium and will never be of a good standard. What's wrong with how we create music up until now?

@morbidmanmusic

Ай бұрын

sampling couldn't talk back... that is AI's difference. It isn't just crap music.

@pokepress

Ай бұрын

Sampling is an imperfect metaphor, but I can see why it’s used. If sampling is chopping up recordings, AI is like a purée.

@eternal5024

Ай бұрын

you mean it’s value comes from the sample the producer used.

Brilliant. I’m so pleased that someone is putting this side of the conversation forward. Also, the Ableton Ninja was hilarious. 👍👍😂

Oh man, I really want the full track of that proto punk synthpop darkwave AI song. So good!

I don't comment much. This episode is something I am going to share without reservation. So well done! You have a fan in me.

Haruto Fujimota -Ableton Libe Ninja 😂 This is epic

This video is pure poetry.. Mainly because while it's saying why AI is soo incredible, it's disturbing, distorted and empty filled with AI half baked stuff. It almost looks like a bad trip. Just as the mentioned singer "Caetano Veloso" would say: "QUE LOUCURA BICHO"

I can totally see music execs use ai instead of actually hiring talented musicians

@isaackarns385

Ай бұрын

Already are. Friend of mine was a finalist for a commercial project and at the last minute they went with an AI track

@djsusan00

Ай бұрын

@@isaackarns385 okay whats the song then

@isaackarns385

Ай бұрын

@@djsusan00 i don't know the specific song but this friend is a very acclaimed songwriter with decades of experience writing and touring nationally. the point is the agency went with a generative AI song over a song written by this (or any other) human

@COMATRON.

Ай бұрын

@@isaackarns385 AI generated music just fits what brains wanna hear. i as a musician started to use AI to gather ideas und perspectives and yo, it knows how to pleasure the mass in the middle

@isaackarns385

Ай бұрын

@@COMATRON. mid is a great way to describe AI music what perspective or ideas does AI have? to me it's nothing more than an algorithm that responds to prompts with amalgamations of ideas that it's scrubbed (almost certainly unethically and without consent) from human creative output

We need a whole channel of quantised Bob Ross painting.

I am troubled by constant use of images to which they are not entitled. Bette Davis, for example.

top tier AI channel

*WOW.... BRAVO GUYS... THAT WAS FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC... WHAT A HURCULEAN EFFORT RIGHT THERE THAT I CERTAINLY SHALL APPLAUD... SOOOO VERY ENTERTAINING AND ENLIGHTENING... I ACTUALLY LEARNED MORE THAN I THOUGHT I WOULD... FAH REELZ... THANK YOU FOR YOUR CREATION HERE... GOD BLESS*

@flickwtchr

Ай бұрын

I think your caps lock is on, just trying to help.

The voices will now come back to life and sing again

As hilarious as this video is, the comments are even better.

The movie “Idiocracy” was really a documentary. Watch it and you will understand this ai trend is not what seems. Praying for humanity🤲🏾✨🙏🏾

You are a genius man. I cant describe how much I love this. A mix of documentary, dry humor, excellent editing, and all the AI tools you must have used. This is inspiring. I absolutely love it.

Long live the nobodies!! ✊

Awesome work. State of the art. Cool story. The AI tech seems to have improved since your last video 👍🏆

Ok. Sorry I skipped around but will rewatch. In general this is pretty brilliant as usual. I know you try to keep it light but if you do more please include with your other music tech “destroyers of music’ 😂 - drum machines (drummers out of work) - sample libraries (no more real instruments particularly orchestras) - loop libraries (no more session players and pretend songwriters) As an old school music tech guy now in the throws of AI, I find these as other fun references Thanks for another super cool video. 🎉

Describing synthesis techniques is much more effective and using you’re own data sets from your own music is where it has value

This video is amazing. I like how informative it is and how you used AI to make the people talk.

And then Deadmau5 created Strobe which is like the Mozart of Electronic music.

i need a deep dive into dataset machine learning so i can integrate it to my own musical exploration. where can i beggin? is your patreon a good starting point?

Maybe now we can "find" more Milky Edwards.

Why does AI voices still suck so much at changing tones?

@artembaguinski9946

Ай бұрын

stylistic choice.

@HalkerVeil

26 күн бұрын

The mechanics in changing tone hasn't been researched as much as the actual tone of a voice yet. But it's just as important. This is why AI brings more jobs than it takes. There is a science behind how things happen naturally that we don't normally pay attention to.

The voice specialist didn't breath. Her chest do not move at all. I'm not hating the AI which made the video, I'm only giving a constructive feedback. We can live in peace. Remember I'm a cool guy when the singularity happens.

This. I enjoy how it's made clear that A.I. isn't meant to replace anything, just that it's a new medium of expression for something that will exist as long as we exist. That being said, A.I. has a long way to go before the stuff I've been dreaming about starts working. Maybe that long way is a few months, I dunno, but still. I still can't generate an isolated drum track on Udio or Suno, but I guess I could try using the learning models you used for that Beach Boys model. Right now it's a little rough around the edges, I've got to do a few more steps than I'd like. I'd like to be able to record a whole song and then run it through a model to simulate it being recorded live in the studio, all the band members in the same room. That would be awesome.

Same with the mobile phone Same with cars Same with studio artists and ghostwriters Same with facebook etc...😂

here before this channel blows up.

I'm a simple person. I prompt a song in the morning to get me going on a good vibes and it feels like a good cup of coffee. They're my morning songs and I like them a lot.

When it generates separate multi tracks for entire compositions that will be INSANE

This video is a blend of interesting insights and obvious logical fallacies as usual but they're always entertaining and I'm excited to see what you do with the new wave of video generators.

The video is entirely entertaining! I hope you enjoyed all the stages of putting it together.

ok but we need that fire ableton live theme

@doomboyfiasco

Ай бұрын

the white one

Brilliant video! I can see how AI will change the experience for the listener but as a musician I only want to play with other musicians. If AI can replicate that experience for me I'm all in.

I love how serious all of these people you interview are! I mean, every, single, one, barely moves a muscle in their whole body, except their face muscles. And even then, their lips don’t even fully sync up with what they are saying like…..as if they are just so , SO focused on musicianship that they don’t care that they are actually Being controlled by AI Very interesting video though whoever made this. Thank you.

Imagine creating music with Ai then you learn how to play that music and make it your own. Or use it as a royalty free sample generator. It’s a tool just like synths, drum machines, samplers and software that allowed humans to create new genres of music.

@davido3109

Ай бұрын

Booooommmmmm booooommmmmm baboooommmmmmm!!!

@magnopere

Ай бұрын

Imagine just learning how to make music.

@juan_ta

Ай бұрын

That's creativity imprisoned and replaced by an addiction to comfortably degrading interaction with a rewarding non-human, always-ready, no-need-of-discussions-with, sometimes-cool-ideas-source-of partener. (Personally experienced. Nevertheless I plan to train myself in production and sound design by re-creating some cool things I got from the machine by patiently prompting once-and-again). ( By the way, the explicit simple-AI-generated music in this video rather sucks... )

@artembaguinski9946

Ай бұрын

​@@juan_ta Actually, if you think about it, most human-produced music isn't that great either. We've all heard plenty of songs that just don't hit the mark. The thing with AI is that it's only as good as the data it learns from. So, if we want AI to produce better music, we need to feed it high-quality, diverse, and creative examples. If the training data includes a lot of mediocre or 'garbage' music, the AI is more likely to generate similar content. To really tap into the potential of AI in music, we need to curate our inputs carefully and perhaps focus on teaching it the elements of what makes great music great. Over time, with better training data and more sophisticated algorithms, AI-generated music will likely improve significantly. Until then, it's all part of the learning and evolving process.

@KobiMusic-Software

Ай бұрын

thats what im sayyinnnnnnnnnnnn

FUN FACT: in the UK, musicians tried to LEGALLY BAN synthesizers from music production via a new LAW, as they feared their jobs in the orchestra would be at risk.

@vladimirlegrand2917

Ай бұрын

Ok. So don't worry. Everything is going to be alright.

@brianmi40

Ай бұрын

@@vladimirlegrand2917 Who's "worried"? that was decades ago.

@HalkerVeil

26 күн бұрын

Luddites and gatekeepers. History on repeat. They always lose.

I am a bit confused about the voice cloning section. Is it Nicos voice that is cloned or Caetano Veloso's voice? from watching it I can't understand why Nicos voice was cloned, then changed into Caetanos voice. Can someone explain please I feel like I'm missing something really obvious!

Loving the approach. If in the right hands, you definitely can see how future creative approach art in the future.

This great ❤keep going!

With the greatest respect, the content in this video is misinformed, poorly researched and most of the energy seems to have gone into generating the images for entertainment purposes. There are many incorrect statements made or poorly compared examples that it strikes me that this video was created by AI itself based on a series of prompts that were biased from the offset. It's a real shame as there could have been a far more informative discussion here. Firstly, why wouldn't you narrate it yourself? Secondly, where exactly in this video did A.I remotely 'save' music? The examples were quickly edited by humans in order for them to sound any good. The Beach Boys example sounded like music generation from over a year or more ago, incoherent, so to suggest the likes of Udio and Suno etc are inferior is just incorrect, they are in fact far superior to the system you used as we know those platforms are also trained on existing works of known artists and their output is only as constrained as the imagination of the person typing the prompt. Another factor is that you don't take demographics into consideration, so 'mainstream music' is what it is because people actually want it that way. The argument that MacDonalds isn't gourmet food is somewhat flawed and to suggest music has hit the ceiling of creativity and now requires A.I to inject some 'punk' into it negates the incredible music that exists, much of which is a challenge to find, because it isn't mainstream, so many people don't even realise it exists. You strike me as very clever people, but you have really missed the point in so many ways with this one, even with your Epic Finale song, which, whilst possessing some wonderful compositional elements, is but a mere shadow of the works of Aphex Twin from three decades ago, this can't be ignored if your intention is to critique modern music. I would suggest you address some of the lesser known genres and educate yourselves as to what is really out there, created by humans. Lastly, trust me when I say I value your channel and I also embrace technological change, I'm currently spending a fortune on subscriptions to A.I generative sites to stay ahead of the curve, I do believe A.I will and is already contributing to the development of music composition and production, however, music doesn't need 'saving', or if it does, it needs saving from the damn public themselves and from Spotify and other 'nearly free' platforms. Big love to you all! Xx

@BenCaesar

Ай бұрын

👏🏾Yeh some of the arguments were off key in the video for me too. Music is amazing today , before Ai came along, and the issues killing music is not the creation but the distribution and consumption like you said. The failure of Ai to address these is what makes me think it’s not really a creative revolution.

@johnnywoodstock

Ай бұрын

Bro yappin

Hey @nobodyandthecomputer Great stuff! A whole album exploring that Beach Boys sound would awesome! Do you post your music on Soundcloud?

Most creative of you nobodies 😂 thanks friends

This is wonderful. Thoughtfully great.

This is strange but I like it 🙂

That's it? That's the cutting edge new sound? That was just a crappy Venetian Snares ripoff!

Listen, I am far from an AI detractor, even as a music-maker myself... But from start to finish, this video isn't convincing at all, it even pulls the "music sounds samey because DAW" argument which only those who know nothing about the subject bring up. The music samples aren't impressive either, Udio does a much better job despite being trained on the lowest common denominator.

The AI video is so creepy. Not sure I can support that kind of thing currently. the fact that people will get used to this makes me sad.

22:36 "How fortunate we are to be living in such an era." 😂 Everything you said prior could be done before any 'AI'! 🤣🤦‍♂️

I'm an AI music artist.... and meh, just makin cool music and experimenting and trying to find stuff that sounds nice / put out positive messages. Save music? Destroy music? Ehhh, not everything has to be so bombastic and extreme (I guess it does on YT tho, get those clicks and all).

AI might be good for spitting out song chunks for real musicians to play.

AI is limited to whatever Datasets it has access to. Also, most generative AI is run on stolen data

This is amazing what ai do you use

AI is as "free of preconceived notions" as it's data set, AI at it's current form is almost by definition, the opposite of the hopeful features this video tries to shoehorn onto it, great bit about heaters though

Quite a great wellcrafted video

12:00 You know you can turn off the grid in Live…

Imagine 20 years down the line how everybody wil reminisce with great nostagia to this time when AI was wanky, quirky, weird and unpolished... I can see it becoming a type of aesthetic, defined by technica imitations just as much as the 80s and 90s had their own.

@lowstaar

Ай бұрын

Maybe in a horror

@babonneau

Ай бұрын

Just like the younger generations trying to paradoxically recreate the analogue flaws with digital technology or just coming back to it… Dust on analogue films for photographers, vinyl flaws creating background “fireplace” noise, digital effect pedals emulating tape delay / echo or spring reverb, etc. (old school tech. glitches giving a “soul” to the creations). There is a huge market betting on nostalgia’s selling power. The speed at which A.I. tech has been developed in the last years is impressive… but can it continue at such pace or will it soon reach a glass ceiling / a stagnation due to hardware limitations like the seemingly physical impossibility to make chips even smaller now?

@AIMusicExtravaganza

29 күн бұрын

That's an exact conversation I had with a friend watching one of my AI videos: in 20 years people will enjoy those quirks like a crackle on a record :) (Not sure if that's true, but it's a funny thought!)

@bertcabana5563

7 сағат бұрын

Unlikely that sentiment will be the predominant one pertaining to ai. Its may very well be people will be thinking of ways to escape ai in order to return to the freeing creative inspired uncontrolled state humans can access right now.

I've saved Music several times in the last month. you can thank me later.

The song from the outro sounds like John Frusciante (RHCP guitarist) solo electronic tracks.

I would've added some pitch correction to that first one

ive given up trying to explain this to my friends

This is a horrifying production!

love to join you, i make music, I sing, I code for many years and I've done lots of therapy to be able to collaborate :)) tech detox helps a lot with my creativity but is hard

Where can I find that beautiful Alan Watts Voice Model?

@flickwtchr

Ай бұрын

Ah, what a world where people will be putting words into Alan Watts voice, and of course won't label it as such. Not that you were planning on doing that.

I'm like number 247. I'm lucky ya'll. I'm bout to enjoy this video ✌🏾.

I'm a music producer and I've seen AI in music for years, so I don't see anything changing

The next step in music is the complete destruction of music itself. Think sampling and resampling until a piece becomes basically Frankenstein’s monster.

@desu38

Ай бұрын

That's just Reizoko Cj 😂

GOLD

Even as a musician, I was pretty tired of listening to the same monotonous music from the industry and longed for something creative. I have been using A.I Generatives for a while and I must say that it will not really destroy musicians directly, but fuel them up for more creativity to remain relevant and have a human touch. This video is on point.

This channel deserves millions of subscribers. Such great perspectives and use of these early AI video and voiceover technologies

great!

Preach !!! Nailed it!!! I have been saying the same thing !

beautifully done,- harsh truths,,

Common Era mentioned !! (which i like ig)

🎉😊😅! thanks for great ideas and inspiration!

So cool.❤🧡💛💚💙💜💓

Great title :)

he who holds the stapler rules the nerd

no citations for any of the professionals?

@flickwtchr

Ай бұрын

According to the maker of this video, you must be a "hater" for actually wanting to give credit to actual artists.

Yes, Strangers will click on a click bait title!

Brilliant work, thank you!

yes

Re: Chapter 3… So which is it? All music sounds the same or there are countless innovative artists creating original music? I think reality is being stubborn and getting in the way of you making your point 😅

Excuse me, sir. Don't insult the intelligence of people who push back on AI. A few things I want to comment on: 1. About the 'haters'. Electric guitars are instruments controlled by artists. AI is an instrument used to replace artist. Not for the sake of art. For the sake of stuffing investors pockets. 2. Life is precious because it is finite. We are amazing because we are mortal. So is art. As soon as you clone some artist. You have devalued that artist and their art. 3. The reason why there is no wide spread creativity is not because we aren't creative. It's because the ones who rise to the top are not the creatives, the ones that rise to the top are those who generate the most money. Especially if they are backed by a lot of money. If it's not popping, we won't know about it. E.g. 300 likes on a James Blake release. One of the most creative artist of my generation. 4. How much of the data that these LLM's are trained on was stolen from artists? Did they give permission. 5. 'AI' is as intelligent as a calculator. It cannot generate anything creative. For the same reason it cannot be trained on its own content. It needs to steal more and more from actual creative human beings. Why do you think Microsoft introduced Recall? Why is Adobe so hungry for their users data? 6. In the end, AI will prevail. But don't fool yourself. Music will be worse off.

This was brilliant

AI could generate new musical notes by following weather forecasts. 🤔

this is awesome

Will save music... from what?

This is an incredible contribution that puts the matter into perspective. The internet is full of whiners who fantasise about the end of human creativity.

@flickwtchr

Ай бұрын

You're just a hater yourself, right?

@minimal3734

Ай бұрын

@@flickwtchr I don't know what you mean. I produce music, among other things. The new tool helps me a lot to overcome writer's block and develop fragments that would otherwise lie around unused forever..

that content: sooooooo good. i would prefer AI running politics instead of being a temu-aphex-twin :P ... cheerz from broken germany.

Come on, the examples were god awful - even after all of the extra work of loading it into a DAW and having to tweak and fine tuning it. Dear god...

oh it's an ad

It's all AI mixed with coding though. No humans are actually singing or playing instruments on these tracks. It's just a guy behind a computer.