my bad this was supposed to be posted yesterday however my internet was dying and then i tried to fix it and kind of destroyed my modem

@mentalmike5240

2 жыл бұрын

Goofy

@eggboy26

2 жыл бұрын

third reply

@Gwen_The_Hallowed_Seamstress

2 жыл бұрын

Its okay king

@Egyptianloverr

2 жыл бұрын

Dumdum

@icezzzz

2 жыл бұрын

yes

I’m happy to know that you address the lolicon argument respectfully, the thing we hate It’s not people calling us weird or creepy but them trowing false accusation around

@Sungura_Kaiser

2 жыл бұрын

If only Cimrai was as respectful, she wouldn't have had her haters commission NSFW loli art of her character out of spite.

@isthatbraised

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they only attack people who like lollipop(yt censors it), there's a multitude of as bad or even worse shit out there in the internet. Either they're self projecting or something else

@ayeyebrazorf6628

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sungura_Kaiser I’ll say commissioning art that for someone to make them uncomfortable is something that no one should do cause at that point it’s just harassment and Cimrai also could have been more polite and not accuse lolicons of being MAPS

@novomundo7559

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah dude, i was accused of being a MAP in discord and banned only because i said that liking +18 lolis that *DON'T ACT LIKE A KID, BUT LIKE A ADULT* don't make you a pedo.

@rrod3602

2 жыл бұрын

People on Twitter and most other social media sites will destroy people’s lives because they like drawings of fictional characters. It’s really insane to me even though I personally do not enjoy loli content. People should help real children and realize that a fictional drawing can’t give consent and doesn’t have thoughts whether it’s young or literally 40.

Science behind this is REALLY freakin interesting. Fictional characters are literally designed to be appealing to various tastes. Even Vsauce has a really good explaination in one of his videos. If irl people had the facial proportions of an anime or cartoon character, it will be nightmare fuel. That is, fictional characters DON'T look similar to people irl. But the reason why we still "see" them as humans is because the features that our brain focuses on to recognize faces and judge emotions are highly, highly exaggerated in them. That is why you can look at a drawn face without a nose and still call it a face but without eyes or mouth you won't. Furthermore, scientists even say that the reason why humans find cartoon/anime aesthetic so appealing and even empathetic because all the features mentioned before are increasingly drawn closer to a baby's proportions because humans have evolved to find babies cute because that gave us the evolutionary advantage to be protective of them. This is also mentioned in the Vsauce video and it's really interesting. I personally also don't like lolis but loli or not, fictional characters DON'T actually look human and are DESIGNED to be appealing to human brain.

@TimelostGamer

2 жыл бұрын

Ah science. It has an answer for almost everything!

@IAmSchwi

2 жыл бұрын

well said

@tsukicat3143

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Just try to have an hallucination of an actual 2D character IRL by any mean (in my case it was SEVERE sleep deprivation, as in, 6 days without sleep, and it only lasted one second, but I imagine that drugs can give the same result for a longer time. Hinagiku from hayate no gotoku, if anyone is curious). It was CREEPY AS HELL. 2D actually isn't that cute in real life. Just like how kigurumi masks are severely off-putting. But that's not what it's made for anyway. So yeah. Long story short, it is nightmare fuel. Don't try the "days and days without any moment of sleep" at home though. Funnily enough, the "appealing proportions" of anime characters that make them appealing also exist in... cats. Cats have the same neotenous features that tend to make people highly protective of them. And it tends to be just as effective for a lot of people.

@kreysteller5470

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely well said

@epacgames9197

2 жыл бұрын

Could you post the VSauce video here so we can see it if we haven't?

It's nice to see some people actually defending hero hei. To me he's like the BBC news of anime and fictional stuff

@BarryMckockinah

2 жыл бұрын

Except, more consistent

@ricktheweeb5382

2 жыл бұрын

without the bias being potrayed by facts

@ShadiC636

2 жыл бұрын

If you're honestly comparing him to bbc, then you have no idea what bbc is like at all. It's like trying to compare him to an out-of-touch sjw.

@hassathunter2464

2 жыл бұрын

So you say he sucks? Bit harsh.

@SandboxerSandy

2 жыл бұрын

Don't compare herohei to that

the whole lolicon argument boils down to almost uncomfortably close to "thought police" territory, I know you have your tastes and that's cool, really if you think anything it's creepy it's okay, it's your right, fetishes and tastes are like that but when you move to basically say "you draw thing, therefore, you're a horrible person and you should go to prison for a *drawing* " yeah...you can see why people tend to gatekeep things

@whyjnot420

2 жыл бұрын

It follows that if you treat drawings the way one would real people, then you would have to extend that to other aspects such as violence. Thus rendering every action game ever "bad". When it comes to these people telling others what they are and are not allowed to like or be attracted to, it literally is thought policing. Freedom of thought might be the single most sacred concept in the world to me and I apply it equally to all people, full stop. So when I see this crap in action I am repulsed at a fundamental level. edit: btw, that first bit is the _reductio ad absurdum_ that actually changed my mind on how the law should treat things like drawings and video games and whatnot, the better part of 20 years ago.

@buttertool6211

2 жыл бұрын

@@whyjnot420 this, just the whole of it, You summed my thoughts on the matter perfectly

@Vannabee13

2 жыл бұрын

It boils down to people not understanding why adults engaging with minors is wrong. It's a consent violation due to minors not being legally (or morally due to their brain not being fully developed) able to consent. Predators target children not because of attraction to how they look (their are plenty of youthful looking adult women if it was a looks preference). They specifically want a real person with an immature brain to hurt and take advantage of.

@kana22693

2 жыл бұрын

This. After arguing with some people who are against it, I've realized that they actually WANT me to think of myself as a P-word!! What the hell? If their goal is to protect minors (real ones not fictional) then gaslighting a bunch of IoIicons into thinking of themselves as P-word monsters it's a terrible idea that can backfire horribly, at the end of the day I just want to enjoy my 2D drawings in peace... I don't think I deserve to feel like a monster for enjoying drawings that don't require any real-life sufferance to be produced. Well, I suppose the artist's wrist might suffer a bit if they put in a lot of work. 😆

@the_honored_one_06

2 жыл бұрын

In the law, drawings or fictional depictions of minors doing sexual acts is actually against the law. That's why some people have gone to jail for drawing literal children. It doesn't matter if they are real or not. It's meant to be a child. There are so many anime characters that are full grown adults yet I can't understand why anyone would sexualize the little boys and girls. But tbh, do what y'all want. I ain't the one going on a list

There a line between fact and fiction but it’s all about both feeling and context.

@ei4163

2 жыл бұрын

🤝

@andresanguianozuniga6798

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@Unapologeticweeb

2 жыл бұрын

I think most adults should have figured this out by themselves if you dint (not you the commenter but you as in the people who actually don't understand the differences) then this might sound harsh but that's a sign said person's parents have utterly failed at there job in raising and educating said person

@johndexterzarate6663

2 жыл бұрын

....They might not be real but their thickness exist in our hearts. - E-girl Lego guy

@ralphanthonyespos9417

2 жыл бұрын

The context: Fact is fact; fiction is fiction. The feeling: But she's nine! 　― _… and she's fictional_ *BUT SHE'S NINE!!!* ＿＿＿ Honestly, if people stopped being malicious, …

If fictional characters are real, then I deserve the death sentence for all the shit I've done to the minecraft villagers over the years.

@THEWENTED6966

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@ArDeeMee

Жыл бұрын

I played The Sims 2. You aint got nothing on me. xD

@falxblade1352

Жыл бұрын

​@@ArDeeMee counterpoint: stellaris (Although they _are_ called human rights so...)

@LightningIgnis

2 ай бұрын

Fr like I’ve been doing shit we abolished more than 100 years ago

This is the very argument of "Playing shooter games makes you a murderer", because of how untrue it is. You're right, its weird to like loli stuff, but that doesn't automatically make them a P. C'mon, we've had this same argument about furries and how they're accused of being into z00philia.

@dibberz-v1z

2 жыл бұрын

sadly there seems to be a growing zoo problem within the furry community however unlike the brony community with it's P problem, the furries are for the most part trying to chase it out of their fandom instead of embrace and protect them like the bronies did with the Ps in their fandom

@viennasavage9110

2 жыл бұрын

Except its not though. Lolicon is a fetish. FPS games are not.

@Blue_Spirit7

2 жыл бұрын

@@viennasavage9110 FPS do be kinda hot though 🌚

@_lynxninja_4783

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine you' get arrested because you stole a car from GTA

@Gamer-zg2wb

2 жыл бұрын

Furries who are antis are the most ignorant and in-denial hypocrites.

Happy Men's Mental Health Awareness month!

@Ilias2

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, people talk about men's mental health so little I didn't even realize there was a Men's Mental Health Awareness month.

@ObiAlmighty

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ilias2 That’s what we call ✨✨ *A reflection of society* ✨✨

@1atm1

2 жыл бұрын

That's a thing? Wow, I'm surprised I hadn't heard of that.

@eliasalejandro2292

2 жыл бұрын

@@1atm1 same

@SamiiSam128

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Happy Mens mental health awareness and pride month. Let's enjoy this month! 🥳

I have the philosophy that you should like what you like if it's not harming anyone. Is it weird that people enjoy lewding lolis and other underage characters? I mean yeah, but it also weirds me out seeing feet, farts and furries being portrayed sexually. The twitter police conflating a fictional situation with a real world issue is part of the problem. They have the same mental gymnastics as politicians saying that video game violence leads to real world violence. There's no proof of it anywhere and they're literally only spouting it off to get fake internet points with the shittiest groups of people.

@denver376

2 жыл бұрын

Depends on the Morality. Twatter Checkmarks/Police has none.

@BatBitesTheBat

2 жыл бұрын

People should be able to like/crush on minors if they are a minor themselves

@winterfire567

2 жыл бұрын

@@BatBitesTheBat This is a non sequitur. Nobody is arguing that minor/minor relations are bad and it doesn't have any bearing on what's being discussed.

@Ren21798

2 жыл бұрын

they just looking for a scapegoat, like the media blame gamer for everything wrong with society because left and right hate gamers, notice how they are a lot of map communities. and we also talk about the same people who do nothing even though some celebrate when ped* movie (the cuties) on Netflix air but a clown(David Chappelle) pulls a joke they walk out and tried to kill him and manage to make his friend commit suicide while at it.

@yellow6677

2 жыл бұрын

It really depends. Cause there isn't a real child being harmed. But you should consider the person who consumes said media, cause if you were to describe this type of media to the average person they would obviously be weirded out they would probably question the mental health of a person who enjoys that type of media. But to go as far as saying nobody who consumes said content isn't malicious is broad, same with saying all who do are malicious people. Again It depends.

I wish we could go back to the good old days of "Your waifu isn't real"

@sehrish1837

Жыл бұрын

ikr

Twitter weirdos: "Human rights for fictional people that suffer!" Me: "What about actual rights for actual people who suffer?" Twitter weirdos: *GLARE* There are people who think like that. No wonder faith in humanity is at an all time low.

@PatrickMenesesYTOfficial4945

2 жыл бұрын

As all things should be.

It's sad that even if you love a fictional character people call you a monster yet do nothing for real victims. Also how come if we love lolis you call us maps, if you love a werewolf character we don't call it beastiality...Its because we know the difference between fiction and reality.

@ItsTanuki0_Clock

2 жыл бұрын

The issue is that they don't know that difference

@Depressed_Spider

2 жыл бұрын

Werewolves are people too, so it's hardly bestiality. But okay, that also depends on how we define "werewolves". They don't always work exactly the same way.

@isthatbraised

2 жыл бұрын

Them when Netorare, Guro, Body Mutilation, Necrophilia, Bugs, Drugs, Vomit, Blackmail, Moral Degredation, Mind Control, Pr**titution, R*pe, Ugly Bastard, Golden shower, Vore, Urethra Insertion, Snuff, Ryona, P**is Birth, Amputee, Abortion: "I sleep" Them when lollipop: "Real shit?!1!?"

@bluefoxgaming2748

2 жыл бұрын

@@Depressed_Spider I get that but I met a girl once who love the "wolf" side and not the human.

@Silva-pf6jl

2 жыл бұрын

@@Depressed_Spider yeah thats the beautiful thing about fiction, you can't really measure what's okay and not, you can only measure it for yourself and not for others, limiting drawing to be what is considered "okay" Is like limiting the human imagination.

“I don’t like people lewding Anya” Spoken like a true gentleman. I’m not one of those twitter twats that blast these loli artists as pee doughs, Anya, along with Kanna are in my list of characters that are too pure to he lewded. Yes I’m probably treating them as real people, but I’m also not an idiot to lambast anyone who do ruin their purity with lewds because the fact is they are still fictional characters.

@elgatochurro

2 жыл бұрын

"too pure" but thats what makes it so much better

@NefariousTomato

2 жыл бұрын

@@elgatochurro best kind of loli stuff, the degenerate stuff.

@elgatochurro

2 жыл бұрын

@@NefariousTomato I think the best is actually like Lolis being into it. But yes.

@jackychen7769

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, the moment you let others lewd them is the moment you've stopped treating them like real people. You're doing well to distinguish reality from fiction as far as I can tell.

@HulktySSJ2

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly, Kanna is already lewded in the show itself. By an elementary school lesbian..... awkward.

So, wait. They call others map as an insult, but also support ACTUAL maps? Such is the duality of the Twitter police.

@ranger7yago306

2 жыл бұрын

There’s no hope left for Twitter hypocrisy

@Sweetheart-gz5mw

2 жыл бұрын

whos this "they"??? dont generalize

@schlongmclong4602

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sweetheart-gz5mw they can be one person tho

@Acueil

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sweetheart-gz5mw Generalize who? The twitter police? Why do you care?

@Sweetheart-gz5mw

2 жыл бұрын

@@schlongmclong4602 no bc theyre talking abt twitter ppl not abt one specific person

To be fair, I've seen lolicon/shotacon fans actually doing something against real life pedophiles The pixel protectors on the other hand, well (taking up my notes): attacking real life csem victim and wishing him/her another forced session, calling anyone who disagrees (even csem victims, again) pedos, death threats, doxxing, hacking accounts and/or being pedos themselves. And way more, but those are the exact points I need to make some sort of image of their movement So, well, I'm gonna side with the creepy cartoons enjoyers, they seems pretty sane

@daninumbers

2 жыл бұрын

I would report blogs in tumblr that had cp besides loli stuff when I was browsing. Since I saw nothing would happen I asked my by then friend, a self-proclaimed sjw, for help. He refused. Some bullshit about the fbi could track him down. So yeah, I've done more for it than him while he'd just do the safe thing, report fiction and lecture me about how it normalizes the real thing. Btw he ditched our like 5 years friendship over he couldn't stand me liking it... while he was a brony.

@heliusahmadian2711

2 жыл бұрын

"I've seen lolicon/shotacon fans actually doing something against real life pedophiles" Can you tell me one those stories I'm interested to hear

@darkfiretype5684

2 жыл бұрын

@@heliusahmadian2711 I remember at one point on Twitter, I saw a bunch of artists who drew shota/loli based content coming together to donate to a charity that helped CSA victims or something similar to that. I remember part of the caption pointing out that this was highly important to them because of their negative reputation online due to antis.

@realswobby

2 жыл бұрын

I can say literally the same thing but vice versa. So I guess in both groups we can find shitty people.

@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad

2 жыл бұрын

@@heliusahmadian2711 They're not trying or seeking real children to groom, they rather stay with arts and fictional stuff.

Guys let me make something clear to you: Just because someone likes something IN FICTION that doesn't mean that person likes the same thing in real life!!! A lesbian can be attracted to male characters, that doesn't mean she is attracted to real life men! A person can enjoy watching shows with problematic and abusive relationships because they are more dramatic and interesting to watch, that doesn't mean that person supports abusive relationships in real life! Lolicons not necessarily are attracted to real life kids! Some people must understand that.

@Vannabee13

2 жыл бұрын

I'm 29. My age limit for dating is 26 minimum because anyone younger than that I just do not relate to (also not interested in people over 33, I like people my own age). But I have no issues admiring characters who are canically teenagers because, shockingly, they aren't real and can't ruin the fantasy by opening their mouths and saying something stupid like real teenagers.

@nasidodge3489

2 жыл бұрын

Real kid are disgusting. Loli are cute and adorable

@Vannabee13

2 жыл бұрын

And there's no such thing as a teenager who is "mature for their age" to the point of being able to actually relate to an adult in their 20's/30's.

@LongandWeirdName

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vannabee13 Yeah. Remember everyone going crazy for that band, 15 years ba... Oh... Right... You were wearing diapers back then. Edit: Clarification, as some may not get it. I meant an example, not an attack on the person I "@"-ed.

@Vannabee13

2 жыл бұрын

@@LongandWeirdName I even had a 23 year old hit on me at a bar recently because I apparently still look a lot younger than I am (atleast in dim bar lighting) and all I could think of was "baby" as I watched him slowly figure out how old I actually was when I mentioned starting college in 2010.

I really think people need to stop judging people for their fucking thoughts. Liking Loli, feeling anything, simply being AROUSED by something alone, doesn't make you a child abuser. I've always always always found this a dangerous slippery slope in society.

@ItsTanuki0_Clock

2 жыл бұрын

They have the same logic as saying that liking war games makes you violent

@bigpig2709

2 жыл бұрын

Drawing gore of fictional characters are mostly the same thing, doesn't make someone a serial killer if they want to draw gore

@IAmTheEagleHTM

2 жыл бұрын

It's literally fascism to want to control individual thoughts

@andresanguianozuniga6798

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigpig2709 however, a serial killer could have a pleasure for gore... But of course, if you watch gore but you don't have tendencies of killing, all good. Again, i don't blame ppl for getting scared, its logical, but the evidence at the end its the boss.

@Capyccino_

2 жыл бұрын

@@IAmTheEagleHTM don't be attracted to children then

So having a character brutally die is fine, but lewding the character is completely crossing the line

@LongandWeirdName

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Didn't you know? Just thinking about something or not finding it absolutely abhorrent makes you guilty of it. You not recoiling in horror after seeing a drawing of a fictional character the author of which states clearly that the woman in that drawing is supposed to be a flat chested, low height, chubby 30+ year old who is not based on any person in the real world... Means you are guilty of actually being a chomo. Not even a pdf, who has those weird attractions, but hasn't acted on it. A deviant criminal who has touched a minor inappropriately for his/her own twisted pleasure. That's the idea those TP(Twitter Police, Toilet Paper... Either way, full of it.) want to sell to the world. Welcome to the internet. Where even crazies like that have enough of a platform to be heard and can twist the public opinion far enough to influence companies to cease cooperation with innocent people due to a misguided smear campaign they orchestrated.

@viennasavage9110

2 жыл бұрын

Its about fetishization. Why is everyone missing the point-

@bestaround3323

2 жыл бұрын

@@viennasavage9110 But why is that worse then having fictional children go through hell?

@theabyss45

2 жыл бұрын

@@viennasavage9110 if it's about fetishization, then there's alot more you have to worry about than just lolis

@LongandWeirdName

2 жыл бұрын

@@viennasavage9110 Fetishization... Hmmm... From Cambridge Dictionary: Definition 1. an unreasonable amount of importance that is given to something, or an unreasonable interest in something Kinda like what a very loud small group of straights is doing with what other, straight or non-straight, people are doing in the privacy and safety of their own bedrooms(and other flat surfaces around the house)? Definition 2. a sexual interest in an object, a part of the body that is not a sexual organ, or a person as if they are an object. So... What? Interest in rubbing your parts against other people's armpits, and such? Because the other part, the treating people like objects one, sounds like a big chunk of the male population of the world as well as an only slightly smaller chunk of women. Yeah. No third definition I could find. No idea what you're on about. That people who look at images that look nothing like the real thing will start getting interested in the real thing? Start seeing those two as equals? Yeah. No. I may be a person with a rich imagination, but you will never make me think a Big Mac I get served at a McD's looks anything similar to that thing they have on the display and ads. Actual children are repulsive, snot covered, scraped up, misshapen blobs of filth. Not saying I'm into loli. Just saying that even if I was... That would not change how abhorrent those homunculi are.

Dude you're one of the least racist/homophobic/whateverphobic KZreadr I know... The fact you call out idiots for being idiots and they instantly assume it's for their identity is their own problem. Stupidity has no gender, sex, race, etc. So please keep calling it out.

@Saltedroastedcaramel

2 жыл бұрын

It's weird whenever someone accuses him as homophobic. This one High Guardian Spice reviewer accused him of such as when he was talking about how garbage it was

@Zer-ec4ly

2 жыл бұрын

You had me in the first half, not gonna lie.

@yuri-sama.questionmark

2 жыл бұрын

@@Saltedroastedcaramel Is he Verdis Joe?

@Saltedroastedcaramel

2 жыл бұрын

@@yuri-sama.questionmark I don't remember exactly who

@Depressed_Spider

2 жыл бұрын

@@Lightningstrike1220 But hatred grows from fear. Also, just like common fear-phobias, bigotry too is irrational and fighting it is hard. Someone who hates homosexuality for example often hates it simply for the reason that it makes him feel "icky". You cannot convince someone like that with arguments, that feeling won't go away.

I honestly hate the whole climate we live in these days with how certain groups of people have this with me or against me mentality. It's like no one is allowed to be neutral on something anymore. I personally agree with Hero on this, I find the loli thing kind of weird, sometimes creepy, but everyone has their own likes and dislikes and as long as it doesn't manifest into something horrible, I can't say there's anything inherently wrong about it. You can disagree with something while also be respectful to people who haven't done anything wrong. The only nod I can give to the people REALLY against the loli fetish is that I really do understand where they're coming from, it definitely makes me feel a bit uncomfortable, but I think there are bigger fish to fry and far more serious things to be outraged by.

@darkzeroprojects4245

2 жыл бұрын

And they're trying to reinforce it to make us all who are against them all be it left or right,dem or republican disappear. I think that way because of both sides over the years had be completely irritating me to no end with their problems and how alot of us are in the middle just wanting to be left alone and not have our lives be screwed over because someone can't take the hint that socialism/marxisim/communism or something is shit and we don't want or need it.

@realswobby

2 жыл бұрын

"As long as it doesn't manifest into smth horrible" The problem is not in the lolis alone but in the fact that it DOES manifest into smth horrible sometimes. Not saying that every con is into real cp but imo you can find real p among cons. Some of those who draw cp are accused of redrawing real cp or simply using real photo references of real kids (Shadman). This is something that definitely reaches real cp teritory.

Imagine that "Cuties" is still up on Netflix and it's trailer available to everyone on KZread, yet apparently fictional drawings are too much. Some people need to take their priorities straight.

@chelonianmobile

2 жыл бұрын

From what I've heard from people who've seen it, Cuties isn't as bad as people make it out to be and it was mostly creepy marketing that was the problem. Not sure how accurate that is.

@berserkagain7976

2 жыл бұрын

@@chelonianmobile the movie is actually really bad i litterally couldn't finsh it , there was this part with this 9 year old started striping in front of her teacher and i noped the f2ck out after that.

@Saltedroastedcaramel

2 жыл бұрын

@@chelonianmobile The main character tried to seduce her relative then took a picture of her area with his phone then posted it when it didn't work and almost killed a girl. Not only that, but the movie ended with not resolving anything. Whoever told you that is downplaying it

@PatrickMenesesYTOfficial4945

2 жыл бұрын

Cuties is till problematic pffft

@freedomdude5420

2 жыл бұрын

My real concern about cuties is who made the movie in the first place that’s who I’m really after answer that question and you will find the connections to who they are and who their friends are.

My mans,This is exactly what i want people to know cause drawings or fictional characters are not real and They do not deserve to be treated like real humans cause they are here for our entertainment and fictional characters are for to create something that can't happen in this world and our real life things doesn't effect them as well also,This is very upsetting for me cause i want to become an mangaka in the future so,If people won't stop treating fictional characters like real humans then my stories would get cancelled for it,Bruh Man I am literally worrying about the future of anime's cause if this goes like this then authors will not be able to create what they want,This is just sad qt this point

@andresanguianozuniga6798

2 жыл бұрын

I disagree on some point... As a future creator i will give you an advice: prepare for accepting than REALITY ALWAYS WILL JUDGE YOUR CHARACTERS. Stop mourning about that and prepare arguments more than that bullshit of "its Fiction" cuz its more attacking your ideas and their impact on the project what, liking it or not, will affect our world one way or another. Because nothing of this is New, its since Fiction exists... So... Be aware of this kind of ppl and prepare to fight them.

@killertruth186

2 жыл бұрын

The only exception to that, if the fictional characters was made by real victims and was proven to be it.

@yellow6677

2 жыл бұрын

It really depends on how seperate the actual person is from the content they consume. It can be a problem if what they consume affects how they act in real life. Same with those who create it. This can apply to anything not just simply nsfw media. If whatever media you consume is too involved in how you operate in the real world it becomes and issue. But also not everyone will be affected this way by the media they consume either.

@ifirespondiamstupid7750

2 жыл бұрын

@@killertruth186 what?

@ifirespondiamstupid7750

2 жыл бұрын

@@yellow6677 There goes that conundrum. There are people who can differentiate reality from fiction, no matter how much they consume it.

Does enjoying gory violent horror films mean i'm a serial killer?

@Tahubulat9013

2 жыл бұрын

Say that to people on Twitter or Pinterest..

I honestly wish the world would understand, That just because people disagree on something does not make them enemies. And that people have the right to like, or even dislike something, as long as they don't force their choices onto anyone else. This can be used any way, Like take this Loli, issue. I personally don't like it, but if there's someone who does like it, that's fine. As long as they are not shoving their choices of "my way is right" you're allowed to like what you like. And just because we don't agree, doesn't mean I can't be friends with said person. I wish everyone would understand that, and it even goes for some bigger issues. You can even take Homosexuality. You're allowed to disagree with it. Truly you are. As long as you don't force your choice onto someone who agrees with it, and vice versa. And just because you disagree with Homosexuality, doesn't mean that you and a Homosexual person are enemies and cannot be friends. You can still like a person and disagree with all of their choices. Take for example: I personally don't agree with the whole "open Marriage" concept, Where two people can be Married, in love, but both sides are allowed to freely go and sleep with anyone they want. I don't agree with that. But I know someone who agrees with that lifestyle and lives it. Am I an enemy with that person? No, we can still talk, play games together, I disagree with their life choices, but I don't hate the person. I think people throw around the extremists terms way too easily, You disagree with Homosexuality, you're immediately called Homophobic. You say that liking Fictional character drawing of young girls is fine, You're labeled a Pedo, You say that drawing someone black should not be labeled as "fixing" art, you're called racist. If you disagree with the open Marriage concept, you're called Fascist. ...... Which personally I don't understand how those 2 things go together, but oh well. I think both sides need to calm down and understand that people are allowed to have opinions, as long as they don't force their opinions onto others. There is no difference between the two people. One saying: You cannot be homosexual because I believe so! And the other saying: You must accept me for being homosexual. Both sides are trying to force their own opinions. So you don't agree with them, oh well, that's cool, go on with your lives, you're not enemies. There is so many other problems in the world that need fixing. Instead of attacking drawings of young people, go and help actual young kids, those under abuse. Instead of attack men in the subway for "manspreading" go help the women in other countries who are put to death for being assaulted, because they did something to make the men do that. =/ End of the day, I'll never understand this world.

@elijaharroyo4846

2 жыл бұрын

Life is just weird and built that way

@anims8109

2 жыл бұрын

Agree nobody should force their choices on somebody else.

@Depressed_Spider

2 жыл бұрын

"Go help actual people." Twitter: "Now that just sounds like TOO much effort."

@mehwhatever695

2 жыл бұрын

@Celzabuu Jones because youtube don't have upvoted Jk tho

@Elbon-the-Lolinator

2 жыл бұрын

Extremely well put together; I don't think I can say it any clearer than that! Great work.

If you can draw a horror scene where a person is being tortured or killed band not be considered a person who wants to kill or torture others. By that simple acceptance of art not being real you should be able to say the same about Loli art or any other type of art. Hell I played the no Russian campaign of call of duty does that make me a mass murderer, I like to play female characters in video games disbt mean I want to be one . People have to be able to separate fiction from reality

@Succubus_L0li

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, shooting at blacks in GTA doesn't make you racist, but targeting them specifically does makes you weird. If I were to use twitter logic you should go to prison for that.

@goofyahdemoman1134

2 жыл бұрын

If however you wanted to re-enact said media in real life… Like planning to actually chop up somebody

@aryehhawbaker104

2 жыл бұрын

@@Succubus_L0li Shooting at black people specifically in GTA definitely does make you racist. (Unless it's just part of shooting at different types of character models [sex, race, professions] in the hope of different voice lines or whatever.) (Regarding the topic of the video, I agree that I find it a bit creepy and in bad taste but mostly harmless and the Twitter police need to chill.)

@Succubus_L0li

2 жыл бұрын

@@aryehhawbaker104 no, not with hate towards specific races but just mindlessly killing specific races just for the heck of it, or just even to roleplay as racist character for the heck pf it, just to play around, because.... you know.... IT'S A GAME?!

@darkzeroprojects4245

2 жыл бұрын

@@aryehhawbaker104 They can't handle it due to how puritanic weve been. How coddled many have over generations.

For me, I don't care, if it doesn't harm a real person, then do what you do

@zototheo2580

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't harm a real person but it's still weird af

@KingStr0ng

2 жыл бұрын

You can still point out how it's sxualizing children.

@hannahbg1852

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't harm a real person but it's going to go down a path where eventually it does.

@KingStr0ng

Жыл бұрын

@@hannahbg1852 Exactly. Plus it's not wrong to point out how it's pedophillia.

@hannahbg1852

Жыл бұрын

@@KingStr0ng Very true.

Why do the anti-Lolicons care *THIS* much? The Answer: Clout

Policing another persons thoughts and fictional fantasies is a perfect way to show people that you've never faced real hardships in life.

In this day and age of the internet, more specifically Twitter, it is sadly normal to see people prioritise and treat fictional characters as real people meanwhile they treat real people like they don’t exist (false accusations, death threats, many more.)

@dibberz-v1z

2 жыл бұрын

not to be rude but wow, someone with pride flags in their pfp that isn't a unhinged violent nutter

@Vannabee13

2 жыл бұрын

Comfort characters have more rights than actual people.

@Juu_ichi

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vannabee13 and then they treat the actor/voice actor of the character like shit

@kiel0720

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree, sometimes I see cancel culture on twitter playing the “hero”

@PatrickMenesesYTOfficial4945

2 жыл бұрын

This is the part where we should touch grass

"i like small fictional characters" "omg its a pedo" me:

@Tahubulat9013

2 жыл бұрын

Twitter and Pinterest be like:

@Tw1c3923

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tahubulat9013 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

"Human rights are for humans, not fictional characters".

Just because I like something fiction (ex: yandere, obsessive husbandos, twisted mangas) does NOT mean I would adhere to the same values in real life. Puh-lease.

These people are all up in arms against drawings but don't say $hit when real children are being abused, groomed, harrassed or had worse done to them.

2:35 Personally, one thing I've noticed is that a lot of people on Twitter love being part of drama. For example, back when I still had an account, I once got "exposed" for not believing in tulpas, and not only was I blocked by numerous strangers who I had never even interacted with, but people who didn't even know what tulpas were blindly took the bully's side. Interestingly, this somewhat ties into the video, but in the opposite direction, because tulpas are basically imaginary friends that people claim are sentient and should be treated as such, and their "tulpa" was of their waifu. So, basically, I was like, "Your waifu isn't real." and got bullied into deactivation as a result. 3:23 Unfortunately, I can relate to you here. Several months after the first incident, I had a new account, and I somehow offended that SAME PERSON, and, to get revenge, they took one of my replies to a zoophile out of context to claim that _I_ was a zoophile, and almost everyone believed it. I had more people blocking me than following me, most of them complete strangers, and I was once again bullied into deactivation. I was so horrified by the thought of people seeing me as such a monster that I had several nightmares about molesting my pets, who I love and care for like little siblings, and I'd feel so bad that I'd repeatedly apologize to them after waking up. But the worst part is, the person who "exposed" me didn't even believe that I was a zoophile themself, nor had they ever expressed interest in protecting animal rights to begin with. They made up a rumor with the sole purpose of getting people to bully me, and, unfortunately, it worked like a charm.

Honestly people should be able to like whatever they like as long as no real people are being harmed. Conflating lolicons to the P word is arguably similar to saying that anyone who like gore offbrand is a murderer. I’m glad you’re reasonable about this hero, and I respect your opinion on that stuff. Also that Joey guy is a gigachad for posting that Armstrong source post lol. Too accurate.

I was legit attacked after expressing my anger for people going after Lolicons and them not actually really caring about real kids and people who have actually gone through CSA (as someone who sadly ended up experiencing it not once but twice), got called a Lolicon defender. I am not a lolicon (more so a shotacon), and while I normally am not the biggest of sexualizing the sweet beans, I don't think Lolicons/Shotacons be called such terms because very rarely do you see them actually wanting to go after real children. Though ironically....these people calling Loli/Shotacons Ped0s and other Terms....usually end up being the same people who actually do harm children....the same people who want to "help kids" are the ones harming them..... Thank you for addressing this respectfully without any attack. It's ok to find Loli/Shota creepy, it's not for everyone, but it is not ok to toss around terms lightly and refer to them as such because you think they are for being into fictional "children". We need more people just like you Hero Hei.

@anayos6726

2 жыл бұрын

No, we need more hardass militants dealing with the parasites

@noahr.7144

2 жыл бұрын

I think they honestly could be projecting in some instances. I read shota and loli on occassion but no one seems to believe me when I mention some people, including myself, just dont think they look like kids or can keep fiction seperate enough it doesnt matter. Not saying thats the case for all, but I could see it being the reason behind others

@DuskVivie

2 жыл бұрын

@@noahr.7144 Most of them I believe are projecting but in some instances if it's a Minor doing it then it's likely they were groomed into thinking the content is not OK and most of them try to throw that whole law about it being illegal when it was overruled in 2008 due to it being unconstitutional. They never even bother to read the actual stated law when people send them the link of actual written law and always throw the whole "I'm not reading that" because they know they are wrong.

@SavunUp

2 жыл бұрын

what does csa mean

@DuskVivie

2 жыл бұрын

@@SavunUp Child Sexual Assault

"Stop treating fictional characters as real people" Twitter warriors: *Tom fuming meme* "This sign won't stop us because we can't read! Twitter warriors' patrons: "If those kids could read, they'd be very upset."

Never been a fan of lolis/shotas, but I've also never cared if someone does. I just hate that for as much as they scream and virtue signal against fictional characters, they have NONE of that energy when it comes to real cases of children being harassed. Did anyone stick up for me when I was 14 and being sexually harassed by a grown woman online? No, of course not that would be silly. Gotta worry about the thousand-year-old dragon loli instead.

@Saltedroastedcaramel

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Also I'm sorry that happened to you

Child video game characters also don't get away from being rule 34'd. But the numbers is not that big as the adult characters and the sources are hard to find.

Every time someone wants to compare loli shit with the thing maps like, I always ask them "you're right, and at the end of the day, those fictional people are really being hurt, so do you have the contact to a fictional psychologist I can direct them to if the sexualized character needs ?" All the answers I've got till now were them repeating the first accusation against people who like loli stuff. Cause it just shows how the main argument, the comparison of harm done to real people and a FICTIONAL CHARACTER, is moot.

@LongandWeirdName

2 жыл бұрын

"Aww... Should I hire someone who can imitate the author's style to redraw everything after the opening situation set up so that before bad things happen a dragon swoops in and punishes those bad people? Would that make your feewings unhurty-wurty?" too heavy on the sarcasm?

@AnAnonymousAuditor

2 жыл бұрын

@@LongandWeirdName nah, they deserve all that sarcasm and more

@hannahbg1852

Жыл бұрын

My guy, l0lic0ns are only fueling their d3sires rather than creating an outlet. The drawing may not be real, but their attraction to that drawing is.

I agree that personally leading the loli feels a bit creepy but attacking people who like it feels to close to policing people from dating dwarfs, short people in general, flat chested woman, etc. They might not be super common but 'lolis' exist in real life and romance can be very hard because your treated like a child and people try and police your relationships. I remember talking to a teacher who was just under a metre tall, despite being in her 40s with three kids people still accused her husband of being a map.

@Saltedroastedcaramel

2 жыл бұрын

The word map is watered down, it's ridiculous. Why do people misuse accusations blindly without a care in the world, but all up in arms when it's slurs regardless of context?

@gd3741

2 жыл бұрын

@@Saltedroastedcaramel agreed and I hate that you have to use map to avoid censors instead of calling them what they are.

@Vannabee13

2 жыл бұрын

@@Saltedroastedcaramel "MAP" is a misnomer. The term "minor attract person" was coined by 4chan as a way to troll people. Child predators do not target children because they find them sexually attractive and can't help themselves (every adult of any sexual orientation is perfectly capable of experiencing sexual attraction without having an urge to act on it) predators target children with explicit intent to hurt them. It's an intentional choice they make that's perfectly within their control and yet they do it anyway.

@Vannabee13

2 жыл бұрын

@@Saltedroastedcaramel the term "MAP" it's self just waters down what's actually wrong with them. They are predators.

@Saltedroastedcaramel

2 жыл бұрын

@@Vannabee13 Yeah, but I don't want my comment to be shadow banned

Now let me preface this by saying that I am in no way qualified to make the claim I am about to, this is simply my thoughts on loli "art" based on what I believe to be rational; First of all, let me get the one thing that I AM confidently correct about out of the way, and that is that pedophilia isn't a choice, you don't choose who or what you're attracted to, it's a sexual attraction, and getting rid of that is like getting rid of homosexuality, it's just not gonna happen, this is a fact. So with that being said, our next step should be protecting children, and helping these people cope with their sexuality in a way that doesn't hurt people to aid us in that goal, so rationally speaking, shouldn't people be all for loli stuff? Isn't it a perfect way for those sorts of people to get their rocks off without hurting anyone? Is my logic not sound here? I'm interested to hear RESPECTFUL opinions on this. Disclaimer: I'm in no way insinuating that all loli enjoyers are closeted pedos, because I'm a loli enjoyer myself and I know that to not be the case, thank you

It's the same way I feel about furry. Really creepy to find animals sexy, however no harm is done on actual animals so it's fine in my book. Just not my thing

@chocoburgersenpai1627

2 жыл бұрын

Chickens and fish gets slaughtered everyday and you're worried about them being lewded?

@PerSon-xg3zr

2 жыл бұрын

@@chocoburgersenpai1627 Your comment is weird but it gives off such a ridiculous energy that I can't help but giggle.

@JArt872

2 жыл бұрын

@@chocoburgersenpai1627 That's pretty funny lol

@lolasum_sumi_san

2 жыл бұрын

@@chocoburgersenpai1627 it's okay to eat fish cuz they don't have any feelings

@ahogammer6895

2 жыл бұрын

Furries aren't neccessarily a sexual thing. Do research on the thing you're talking about before you comment about the thing.

Honestly, I'm liking the fact that the Twitter police is getting called out on a more regular basis on the platform itself. It almost feels like the toxic sludge that has been accumulating over the past few years after the Tumblr purge is starting to get cleared out or outright neutralized.

I am a lolicon. Most people in my community don’t care if some one finds it weird because we know it’s not going to appeal to most people, most of the time when someone finds it gross they also accuse the people apart of the lolicon community of horrible shit. It’s great to see a human being that can just be on a middle ground. Keep up the great work!!

@acewalker

2 жыл бұрын

If you like loli. Little adolescent children from anime then you are indeed a creepy p dough.

@LunoArcadia

2 жыл бұрын

I admire your honesty 😅

@greenbeamtheii1621

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t call him “middle-ground”

@supercheesydorrito1171

2 жыл бұрын

@@greenbeamtheii1621 wdym exactly? He seems quite middle ground to me

@greenbeamtheii1621

2 жыл бұрын

@@supercheesydorrito1171 I mean, he said it was “creepy” so he made it pretty clear he disliked it.

"I abuse and harrass real people, in the name of children". More like they enjoy beating down on the weak and they need a "go sign" or an "excuse". They always force one if there is none.

@Chaos89P

2 жыл бұрын

They're bullies, in other words.

People who view fiction as real life, need to get lives.

@thelaughingmanofficial

2 жыл бұрын

More likely they need to be locked up in a padded room. Having a life isn't going to magically make them sane.

in the anime culture we have so many branches of likes and dislikes and its a general consensus to just respect the opinions of other fans well there are the usual skirmishes of fans fighting each other for whos best girl/boy but thats it, most of the time the nicest people i meet on the internet are those with weird anime genre might be a coincidence i dont know ahahaha

@123darkelf

2 жыл бұрын

I can see that, but the perspective is a bit of a difficult thing to consider when people on that side tend to act like psychopaths. Although my take is the people who tend to act like that aren’t on that side either. Because all they do is desperately need validation to the point where they will pretend to care about serious issues where usually they aren’t. In places where people aren’t getting hurt. What do they do in that delusion? They fucking inflict pain on others while ignoring the actual problem they claim to care about where it actually is. So in short, because they are so god damn vocal, they tend to just hurt the causes they claim to care about.

@camus1647

2 жыл бұрын

I'd say that apply to us that have been watching anime or reading mangas community since 90s o earlies 2000, because now there are so many people that just can't stand that isekais, ecchis, harems exists just because they don't like it. Usually people that are into Crunchyroll, Netflix or Myanimelist

You can always can take thing out of context, I actually play with the concept by make my comments intentionally be played out context as a bit joke sometimes. I was actually just finishing the touches on something to make it out of context and give it new context.

Hero Hei is probably one of the most chill youtubers Ive watched vids for. People getting all pissy over drawings is just pathetic honestly. All the problems in the world. All the shit going on and all the people that need help and this is what they want to freak out about..... drawings....art.

Twitter is scary, a lot of users are focused in "defending and protecting" fictional characters instead of real human beings. One could think they do it only for the clout and likes ...

@LongandWeirdName

2 жыл бұрын

One could not think otherwise, really.

I don't mind being called weird, as long as they don't prosecute me for crimes i did not do, it will be fine and dandy.

Jo Hero Hei, it is called podophile not map. Don't let twitters idiocrasy get to you.

@winterfire567

2 жыл бұрын

I think that's mostly for the youtube algorithm. Daddy yt no likey bad words or controversial topics being thrown around.

In my experience, those people screaming about it are usually the biggest perpetrators.

@berserkagain7976

2 жыл бұрын

Actually I'm a child r4pe victim and I hate to see p3dos get what they want lol.

I'm really glad Hero Hei does his videos, I love keeping up with the Twitter stuff without having to lose my mind on it. These people are attempting to enforce a puritan mindset with a narcissistic "because I said so" mother mindset, which is why they just see a frame of art and immediately reject and throw false accusations at it and the creator. Thank God they're not anyone's mother.

Kanna is cute, and that's it

Twitter mongers mad about drawings. Also: fire is hot. 🎩 🐍no step on Snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰

I had a friend who used to be mad at me for watching you, because apperently you have clearly stated it somewhere that you're a MAP, and that because of this you shouldn't be supported. I am trying to find that evidence to this day, but the more you post, the more i believe that friend of mine was just one of these morrons who takes stuff out of context, then strongly believe that it's real You are a great person, with strong and important opinions on stuff what needs to be addressed, and you have helped numerous people to get the positive attention they deserve, when they had a wave of negativity coming towards them from twitter police. You are doing nothing but helping people and calling out the ones who are trying to justify things what are either false, or just wrong. You have my respect, and you always will. Keep up the good work, you're great :)

Borvar speaks nothing but facts, fictional characters have no rights, l3wd the l0lis to your hearts content lol, one is stylized fictional drawings, actual cheese pizza needs to hurt a child for it's creation, anyone arguing these 2 are the same is insane.

@andresanguianozuniga6798

2 жыл бұрын

Here i agree with you yes and no... Every Fiction you watch or create says many things about your mind... Cuz then ppl like you said that of "its Fiction" and then get triggered when they censor characters... I mean... Its Fiction no? Just be careful with what you enjoy... Remember, characters are ideas, defend them or destroy them if the context needs it. Out of that, i agree at the end... But i don't blame ppl for be pretty judgeful with lolicon.

@andresanguianozuniga6798

2 жыл бұрын

@UCBsFKkOIYkVt2L8VXnAsopA OK, i admire you for saying it clearly.

@Phatnaru0002

2 жыл бұрын

@@andresanguianozuniga6798 Seems my comment was deleted by YT. It basically amounted to me saying that even if SOME of the people using it are using it as a substitute, that's still not a bad thing. The fact that they'd rather use a substitute than hurt anyone is actually encouraging.

@andresanguianozuniga6798

2 жыл бұрын

@@Phatnaru0002 yeah, HOPEFULLY i watched it before Susan deleted it... Look, in this world there are weird ppl, but if don't Hurt anyone... They can do everything they want...but they shouldn't post it on social media, or get private groups with rules, and caring about that rules. Ya know, sex stuff its like toothbrushes, don't share them plz xd To me thats Fine.

@Phatnaru0002

2 жыл бұрын

@@andresanguianozuniga6798 That depends on the social media. If its properly age-gated, then there's nothing wrong with it, but that applies to ALL adult content. Twitter is an odd case where it cant figure out what it wants to be. It needs to either ban ALL adult content, OR ban kids. As it is now, its basically an adult site that allows kids on it. That's far more damaging to kids than ANY fictional fantasy for adults.

If you don't like particular drawings and that's okay. It's your right to choose how you feel about drawings and move on. No one wants to force people to like what they don't like. And so far I only heard from one person that was being forced to like Loli art, and if people were actually doing that I condemn it as people shouldn't Force others to see their point of view, but I only have that person's word to go by. It is possible for someone to to exaggerate something just to get people on their side and I've learned not to place all my trust on words alone.

Damn. Based artist.

Why would they say something so controversial yet so brave?

I feel people really don’t understand that a fictional character doesn’t exist in real life (reality) and can be fantasized into any image that a person wants. But, they’re are things that seem weird to others that doesn’t seem weird to others (such as Hero Hei’s opinion on Lolis).

@xbro154ever

2 жыл бұрын

Also here’s the list so far: How to trigger Twitter: 1) Straight people existing 2) Anime girls existing 3) Anything worth praising existing 4) Anything that gives off the slightest amount of enjoyment or pleasure existing 5) White characters existing 6) Siblings hugging innocently 7) Men just wanting to live their lives and not be around a single person just because it’s their girlfriend 8) The success of Spy X Family 9) Smug Anya 10) Mommy Yor 😩 👌 11) Loving the greatness that is anime 12) Adult (fictional) Anya 13) Localizers 14) Enjoying video games 15) Aging up characters 16) Boruto’s existence ☠️ 17) Naruto’s wife, Hinata Hyuga 18) Complaining against clearly unjustified and idiotic comments 19) Non-canon events that are just made for fun (even if it gets intense or nonsensical at times) 20) Makima’s juicy Ass 21) Chainsaw Man anime (which will have gore scenes but it’s still a Shonen anime at the end of the day) 22) Trash Taste’s Joey liking loli 23) Loli content 24) Lolicons 25) Anya manga edits 26) Shonen Jump advertising (in a way) 27) Genshin Impact fanart 28) Honkai b00bs 29) Fruit (stupidity at its finest) 30) Predator Fruit 31) Anime Swimsuits (some people just don’t understand quality) 32) Caring about killings IRL (jokes aside, my deepest condolences to all those who’ve lost their loved ones) 33) Misinformation 34) Rainbow always = LGBT for some reason 35) Determined Artists 36) Anime Body Pillows 37) Mikasa “fan service” 38) Getting called out for doing the wrong thing 39) Not “fixing” harmless artwork 40) Being a “fan” of animated things 41) Anime fans in general 42) Innocent artwork that doesn’t specifically imply anything between a group of characters (oddly specific here for a good reason) 43) Mangaka coming from hiatus (i guess) 44) Hololive Vtubers 45) Anime specifically targeted at young adult males 46) Pride Month memes 47) Joe mama 48) A Silent Voice messages 49) Having brain cells 50) Muscular Women 51) Whitewashing in official artwork (Twitter is just plain dumb) 52) Hero Hei getting involved 53) Skintones 54) Vox Akuma 55) Yelan from Genshin Impact 56) Violet Evergarden 57) Looking at adult content, as an adult 58) Anime existing (again) 59) Crunchyroll (which is understandable) 60) Mangaka making manga for people to enjoy 61) Crossdressing Pikachu 62) A man showing any signs of femininity 63) Chun Lei being Chinese 64) Manga with bad LGBT (even if it’s not needed) 65) Pepe the Hate Symbol Frog 66) Breathing 67) Sadge

@hatredhyde

2 жыл бұрын

@@xbro154ever and even positive thing can get a bad take

@MangoPop

2 жыл бұрын

I read that list and my head hurts. And I wanna ask what the feck do they want?! Or they just love misery?

@Depressed_Spider

2 жыл бұрын

@@xbro154ever Bro you could just say "everything", no need to count every single thing that exists.

@kirayoshikage4728

2 жыл бұрын

Misery loves company as they say

damn why does the artist have one of the sanest takes on the treatment of fictional characters I ever seen? IN THE SAME TWEET HE SAYS HE CARES ABOUT KANNA'S THIGHS! Genuinely how

"This guy also does nsfw" You had my curiosity. Now you have my attention. Keep doing what you do Hei.

That kanna thigh comment is pure fact

Honestly, this is the exact take that makes me like this channel. Even watching ecchi anime is cringy TO ME and I turn it off now a days; but when I was a teenager, I liked it. I don't assume that because people like loli or ecchi anime, they are anything except an anime viewer. I wouldn't call someone 'something' without irrefutable proof. Not to get too political, but I have very traditionalist values, but I don't care what you like or do, so long as it doesn't hurt other REAL people. I want to be left alone, so I leave other people alone.

_”Stop treating fictional characters like real people.”_ Simple and straight to the point. It’s sad this even needs to be said but some folks blur fantasy and reality together.

@champ1159

2 жыл бұрын

Those folks are chronically online, the virtual world is reality to them

@ComposedSage75

2 жыл бұрын

@@champ1159 that’s sad. For them anyway.

@champ1159

2 жыл бұрын

@@ComposedSage75 Yes it is

@thelaughingmanofficial

2 жыл бұрын

We have special rooms for people like that. And lovely jackets for them to wear.

Remind me of comment I made on tumblr and people immediatety jupmed at me and put words in my mouth. It finally calmed down when a kind soul called out on their BS. Well it was fun laughing at people who had nothing better to do with their lives

Here's a grim reality to think about: The internet is very wide and very deep. You can find all sorts of stuff in it, and as sad as it is to say, CP is also easily accessible on it. Although not exclusively on the deep web, go talk or watch someone that does browse through unregulated sites for a little bit and they will likely confirm it. That said, why in the world would an actual potential predator search specifically for lolicon art and publicly show their behavior, instead of going for the thing they're actually fixated upon when it's that easy to find? Other than that, there's just no evidence that fictional media affects the consumer's perspective and/or tastes in real life, unless that person already showed mental issues and the media served as a 'trigger' of sorts. Consuming It might create an addiction to that media, but that's where it ends. All evidences show that other social issues are the ones that actually lead to real world crimes, yet people love to fling the blame on small groups that don't necessarily have many ways to defend themselves and look better in comparison. Because it's easier to do that instead of pursuing for actual solutions, or, what ironically happens a lot, they're trying to appear good on the public eye because they themselves commit the crime they're "fighting" against and don't want others to research an "obviously good person".

@best-girl-ilulu9736

2 жыл бұрын

God I wish there were more people with ur views maybe l0li cons wouldn't be sent death threats every hour

@durian111

2 жыл бұрын

True, the loudest one shaming loli artwork, ironicly the one who turned out to be grooming and possession of cp when you look at the news.

@hannahbg1852

Жыл бұрын

There is evidence, just very little because the topic isn't talked about much. Japanese psychologist Akiyoshi Saito explains that the majority of his patients who are 0ff3nders consume l0li on the daily, proving they would rather fuel their desires than create an outlet. I've also heard horror stories of kids being gr00m3d by l0lic0ns.

@best-girl-ilulu9736

Жыл бұрын

@@hannahbg1852 this still does not prove that liking l0li material will lead u to attacking kids u have only heard stories so u don't know if l0li is what made them do those horrendous things or if they liked kids before and again without more concrete information this topic will continue to be just a back and forth game

@Hambs23

Жыл бұрын

@@hannahbg1852 I've heard of some cases where hardcore otakus groomed minors, both boys or girls. But from every survey and research I've seen so far, cases of sexual assault (or any other crime in general) either have an extremely thin connection to fictional content or none at all. It is pretty much 99 times out of 100 related to social issues in a state or country and/or mental illness on part of the aggressor. I don't want to start another discussion on this, just know that I can completely understand your views. It's just that the last time I tried to confront another on this matter, both me and the other person broke off in overly-long and unhealthy rants. But at the very least let me propose a different view on the matter: Just because a criminal likes a certain type of media, doesn't mean that media is made for or by like-minded individuals. There is certainly an umcomfortable ammount of cases where an individual blames their mistakes on a certain addiction, like games, movies, books, etc. Does that automatically mean that everyone that consumes the same types of media as them have or eventually develop the same mentality? Will banning any sort of content which could be considered problematic either "heal" those individuals, or at the very least reduce the ammount of others like them? If out of thousands up to millions of people that consume either violent games, or in this case lolicon art, one of those consumers commits a crime, should all the others be judged the same? And if someone commits the same crime but is addicted to something else entirely, should the thing they consume be taken into consideration and receive the same degree of criticism and ultimately rejected by society? Sorry if this was a bit long, just know that I bear no ill feelings torwards your response. I've seen similar responses many many times on different topics and I know it's a common concern among different people.

Funny how Twitter police don't like lolis but allow maps on their site, which actually deal with irl kids

Call your enemies what you yourself do. Classic radical move.

I just open Google Maps or OpenStreetMap if I want to see map content. If I'm feeling particularly kinky I might even pull out the old Garmin. Sadly, it's too hard to find trifold maps nowadays, those are good for when I'm in the mood to avoid technology. Seriously, they need to be rolled back to just getting called peds, before we get to the point that we can't even talk about following a hiking trail by map without getting mistaken for stalking a ped instead. My main takeaway with this is that people are getting called out for being navigational tools.

Ah yes the classic Twitter police not actually caring.

Now that I realize it, is it still fact or fiction when the character is pretty much real? Anyone remember Night At The Museum? Historical figures coming to life at night and causing chaos in the modern world? I wonder what'd it mean if your favourite character was Teddy Roosevelt or Albert Einstein

@flyingorange2482

2 жыл бұрын

They are not charaters, they are people who existed

@Lowdian

2 жыл бұрын

They are fictional interpretations of real people who are long dead already anyway. I'd say it's fair. While it's true that something like Night at the Museum is trying to go for a more realistic angle, take the Fate series as an example of how far a fictional interpretation can get from it's real life counterpart.

@rochetstrider8725

2 жыл бұрын

there is a difference between fictional drawings and portraits of real people

@killertruth186

2 жыл бұрын

There was no minors in those movies. Except the protagonist son. And some tourists.

@hannahbg1852

Жыл бұрын

Good point. These creeps are always all "OH BUT ITS NOT REAL", okay, but what if the kid you get off to suddenly jumps out of your computer? Would you still be attracted to that?

what wrong if you just adoring thing that adorable? no one to be harm no crime to be done. you simply admiring something beautiful.

I saw some post years ago kind of tackling this idea. It’s a guy that swears up and down that he would never behead someone and that any media that beheads someone is bad. Turns out he’s a serial killer that beheads his victims. I think it makes fun of people that can bash one thing just to do it as well which you’ve brought up some people against Loli will be actual terrible people. I like to write about age gap relationships because it is something I like even though I have been groomed by older men before. I know the difference between toxic and non toxic relationships. I would never condone anything I write in real life. That’s the difference. I am also a you do you as long as nobody gets hurt type of person. That’s why I like your content you always give that benefit of the doubt unlike many others on the internet.

Each person is unique despite the hobbies they do, interests they have, beliefs they carry. I’ve met people who generalize Genshin players as Maps and Furries as people who actually commit bestiality. Generalizations cause a lot of problems.

Seeing you speaking against antis despite finding these kind of stuff creepy is reassuring to me that I'm not in a echo chamber, thank you

Based artist. If you don’t like something, don’t attack the people that do. Live and let live.

i thought i recognized that art style, borvar my beloved

3:23 That Max0r clip was the icing on this Tweet cake 🤣

It's amazing how people don't accuse artists who do guro or grape as murders or wine makers. So what makes lolicon so different in their eyes?

There should be a ban system for twitter police bullying other people so they can disappear from twitter like ip ban or something

And over on Instagram they say the exact same thing. Whenever I say provide sources and they only do vague statements. I debunk them and they never respon back as well.

I don't care what anyone is fictionally into. Like the most vile disgusting things, I will not give a shit at all. If it ever enters the realm of reality then I will have a problem with it. it's that simple. Fiction. Reality.

I do treat my characters as real people, but not for the same reason. I do it for the sake of making relatable characters that have coherent behaviors. When one of my characters is confronted to a situation in their story, I always ask myself "how would THEY react to it ?" based on their personality and past experiences, so I'm a 100% sure that they stay in character and have realistic and relatable reactions and thoughts. I basically see them as their own person with their own thoughts and beliefs, because even though they are not real for us, they are real within their world, meaning they still have to stay coherent. When people see these characters, I wanna make sure they think "Wow ! That's how an actual person would react !"

I disagree with a bunch of what you say but I still love you content and how relaxed you are. Keep at it brother!

The Twitter police makes J Jonah Jameson look and sound reasonable

Liking loli characters does not reflect what you find attractive in a real person.

@hannahbg1852

Жыл бұрын

It does.

Map... Map... Map... Who's the map? What's a map? Why a map?

In Russian youtube there's a situation about Metal Family character insulting fan. There's a animated web series made by two people called Metal family. Also they made videos called "[character] answers you questions". In the last of these videos the character Ches, who only loves rock. One of the fans asked "what are you listening to?". Ches said music and went to fan's account,( the fan's face, nickname wasn't blured) listened to fan's favorite music and said "you need a doctor". Fans were shocked because of this. Also there were people saying that it's not authors' fault but character's. They're treating him like a real human too much

there's a saying in my country "likes can't be discussed"

MAP and offender are not the same thing.

Even though I am a lolicon I think the concept is creepy, and I already found real MAPs using the term lolicon as a shield. Also, there are some really realistic loli r18 which I'm pretty sure is illegal and yet no one seens to point it out, not even these anti loli profiles...

@Iknowhowbadthisnameis8828

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, why is it never mentioned?

I know this man is, in a way, extremely immune to the bull of twitter but don't let them get to you Hero Hei, hope this has no negative effects on your life

Thanks for the take man, I think it’s nice be able to look at things from a more neutral point of view.

Stop saying map say pedophile.

The art of Kanna is very cute, fictional characters are not real but we explain this time and time again and Twitter still refuses to accept it.