I'd dearly love to see a Bennetts comparison video in a wind tunnel of different windscreens. The 1st gen tracer was an awful beast for buffeting.

@henrikforsberg683

2 жыл бұрын

That would be amazing! And the tracer 700 needs the same procedure!

@dougiequick1

Жыл бұрын

Im 5 10 I keep the screen in high position mostly and unless it is windy day (depending on direction) I have zero issues with the supposed buffeting others complain about but then I also have zero issues with the seat that so many testers claim is horrible ...dont get me wrong I am not saying it is plush or wonderful but it causes me no pain in particular either even riding for 5 hours or more. The one downside I DO aggree with is that the brakes are rather lack luster ...I think Yamaha really dropped the ball not giving this bike better binders ....it is 70 pounds heavier than the MT09 after all (that I assume has these same brakes.?) Oh I also aggree with complaints that the little wheel control on the right grip is clumsy and the guages are not all that great....it takes some getting used to and there is no excuse for it if you ask me

Excellent review. Really useful to hear comments about the suspension, coz I live in the Fens, and I know you guys do a lot of miles on Fen roads!

Excellent! Love this long video reviews format, you've been doing! Cheers from Ireland

I had the first tracer and went through 5 screens and ended up the best was no screen. Nice video comparing older versions and very detailed and love using the feedback from owners. Great idea. Re the triples, my last 3 bikes all been triples and love them.

@darylclifford

6 ай бұрын

No screen was best - Really?

Brilliant review from you both. Loved listening to your comments even though I have an xsr900. True professionals keep them coming. 👍

@bennettsbikesocial

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! All the best, John

Excellent and very thorough John 👍👍 love SH, he's a great journo these days - plus he was at Performance Bikes in the 90s, it was the best magazine by a distance, fun, factual, inventive and really well produced...plus I was younger !

Always appreciate long term reviews.

Using Calimoto now..... because of your content. Great reviews, as always.

@bennettsbikesocial

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I was using it today! Cheers, John

What I find interesting about a lot of bikes (I may be the only person who finds this interesting) is that you say that you find yourself short shifting. I would imagine that's at around 7k, as both the power climbs steeply between 6.5 and 7 and the torque max's out. So, probably, for a large chunk of the time, you're riding a 95 bhp bike... I think a lot of people look at bhp figures as what they will get when they are riding it, but for a lot of the time, I think it's more important to see what you're getting in the mid range... Unless it's a track bike, top end power has very little relevance....

@derp195

Жыл бұрын

You could spin that to be a bad thing, but personally (and contrary to popular sayings), I prefer to ride a fast bike slow. For day to day riding, I like feeling like I’m not stressing my bike. Like it’s designed to handle a lot more, but only if I want to use it. I’d much rather use 95/115hp than 95/95hp.

@dougiequick1

Жыл бұрын

Thats all true enough until one is playing ...maybe only brief bursts but its there when you need it! Its how I see it...it like other aspects of a bike what it CAN do in the extreme yet rarely called on like extreme braking or top speed or weight capacity etc etc. At the other end folks buying tiny motorcycles and wringing the bike's neck every minute to keep up with traffic lol

@Grahamvfr

Жыл бұрын

Yea I've ridden a few tracers and that engine is all about the mid range, after 7k it kinda loses interest, ( still producing good power though) but really lovely up to it. When touring on my old fazer 1000, with a mate on a 17 reg tracer, I felt the tracer felt like a whippet compared to the greyhound fazer. I. E. Super enthusiastic, but waned ultimately.. Great though!!

@scottbaldwin47

Жыл бұрын

People buy horsepower but they ride torque.

@jimbeaver27

Жыл бұрын

in the end it doesn't matter, one enjoys the bike and shifts they way they feel like, obviously if one feels the need for more power one allows the revs to go higher, but nobody is worried if they are using every last HP from the bike if you aren't racing

Great video, I love mine, the recent recall's made it ever smoother, not done mega miles on mine yet, dont like the tiny text etc on the L screen I thought the OEM tyres are fine, buffeting from the screen can be a tad annoying, apart from that what a loverly functional bike, M

Although I blanched at the 56 minute commitment...this was a very valuable wrap-up review. As bikes get better, they become initially less emotional (not unlike, say, a Lexus). But for people who can only afford one, or only really WANT one, that is not a bad thing. In fact, it's a huge positive because you can count on it to do what you NEED it to do, whenever and wherever you need it - without fostering a love-hate relationship! The overall capability is quite amazing. Yamaha needs to up their interactive-ergonomic game (switchgear, dash), but that should never be a deal breaker for someone who requires a dependable get-on-and-ride it rig. Thank you for a great set of reviews! I'd sure like to see a similar effort for the Suzuki S1000GT, a bike that will absolutely be cross-shopped.

The community polling for a less biased approach to the general opinion on the ergo, features, engine, etc, is really cool. This will be my next bike.

Love the charts! The fact that you took the time to survey other riders was interesting and helpful. Thinking about the bike in the states. The tiny main LED lights are worrisome. I’ve had people roll down their windows at a stoplight and tell me that one of my lights was burned out. I wish Yamaha would just keep both bulbs on with low beam.

Жыл бұрын

It depends on the law... In EU the bikes must have odd numbers off lights....

Yeah, gonna need you two to do a review like this fir every motorcycle. Ever. Every motorcycle ever.

Hi..just brought the new tracer 9gt yesterday!...turned on KZread and I can't believe it..there was your video on the tracer 9gt. So I watched it and I have to agree with everything you both said about the bike spot on!... I have the old tracer 900 GT and wanted to up grade to either Kawasaki Ninja 1000sx or the Suzuki gsxs1000gt. But nothing beats the tracer when it comes to value for money, and I have always said its a "jack of all trades and master of none!" But what Simon was right in saying was "when you look back it should make you think wow that's my bike!" and ok it doesn't!. But for me I need that Swiss army knife!.

Another superb video! As I've had the T9-GT since they came out; moving from a 2018 T900-GT, I watch any videos of these bikes with interest. Here's my 2-pence worth: Engine Performance - This is certainly a step-up in torque from the previous version, with less vibration and smoother (yet more 'urgent') power delivery. Bike for bike, on the road, I don't think I'd be any quicker on my MT-10 than this, which would only really get ahead once the speed limit has been passed. Economy - This does depend on how you ride it. Sticking the cruise control on at 50mph on the motorway would no doubt see impressive numbers, but I always feel like the delta between sensible and fun is a 'fuel tax' worth paying. However, knowing that this bike can deliver good mileage is no bad thing. I get circa 200 miles to a tank on a relaxing motorway run and less when pushing or stop/start. Engine Character - As mentioned above, power isn't lacking. I'm not a fan of the sound of triples though. Moreover, I think I'm probably the only person who thinks this bike is too loud! Maybe it's the exhaust exiting the bottom of the bike and the reflection back up to the rider, or maybe Yamaha's deliberate enhancement of the induction noise that's to blame, but I'd definitely prefer a little less of whatever it is. Valve Clearances & Servicing - I've not got that far yet. Brakes - I have to say, these impressed me. I do lean quite heavily on the front brake, perhaps partly down to being a regular track rider. I like to trail-brake and take some liberties and these have plenty of power. Yes, the feel may be a little numb, but they're on the better side of adequate. Suspension - I have the GT, so the bike is fitted with Semi-Active KYB suspension. There's a noticeable difference between A1 and A2 settings and I tend to use A1 for all but the most uneven of roads. I feel like there's plenty of braking and acceleration damping, as well as good control of rebound. It does a respectable job all round. The Screen - Typically, the bigger the screen (and more upright it is) the bigger the potential difference in air-pressure between front and back. The faster you go the more the air is going to want to fill that area of low-pressure and buffeting will ensue. There are a few additional parameters to consider; helmet, weather, clothing, size shape of rider etc. and it all comes down to a compromise of how much weather protection you want vs how much buffeting you can tolerate. I personally (at 182cm) find an MRA Spoiler on a stock screen is 'ok'. Others' experiences will differ, so I personally think this comes down to individual trial and error. Seat Comfort - I found the stock seat fine. However, I like to have some warmth, so changed to the heated seat very early on; as I did with my previous 2018. Integration of the heated seat on the 2021 is very good and heat levels are easy to see on the dash, next to the grips display. Stability - I have had no problems with this, at varying speeds. I appreciate others have suggested it's not great, but I can only comment from my own experience here. Best Tyres - I've got on well with the OE Bridgestones and suspect I'll stick with these when the time comes to change. Pillion & Luggage - I don't carry pillions, so can't comment on that. Luggage wise however, I have fully loaded the Panniers on a trip away, including my SW-Motech ADV style Top-Box and it has been fantastic. The Panniers are a good size and being able to stow a helmet is very useful. Value for Money - This is a real strength for the T9. At circa £12k, with a trade in the PCP makes this an affordable every-day bike. I use mine (and my last 2018) for commuting, touring, and racking up the mileage. PCP makes sense and takes away a little bit of the 'I don't want to get her dirty' issue I have with bikes I actually own. I take receipt, cover in ACF-50, and keep regularly re-applying for the three year term. When it comes time to hand the bike back it's always mint! She looks a little dishevelled in the meantime, but it's a workhorse for me. Styling & Build Quality - As mentioned, covering in ACF-50, and the added fact that I have a humidity-controlled garage, keeps the bike pristine (underneath the dirt!) and I've found no issues with parts deteriorating. The flimsiest bit I touch daily is the paper-thin USB bracket, which belies the otherwise very good quality componentry. I also LOVE the way this bike looks, and I'd happily give a detailed walk-around to explain why I think so! I think it's a clever, inspired design, that has a perfect (for me) mix of both utilitarian and beautifully eye-catching aesthetics. Likes & Dislikes - I'll be brief here, as you're probably nodding off with such a long post! I like everything bar the following: The data wheel needs to be on the left-hand side, as it's a pain to use when also controlling the throttle and I shouldn't have to be at a standstill or have the cruise control on to avoid jerking the throttle every time I want to adjust the grip heat. The USB socket bracket is made of cheese, and not a very strong cheese at that. The key is a bit buried, but I guess it needs to engage the steering lock so possibly unavoidable. I find it too loud, as mentioned earlier. Screen aerodynamics could be improved; there are simple ways of providing better air pressure balance and it would be nice to see some advancements here. Would I buy one - I did, so that’s a big yes! AOB: I’ve had both recalls carried out on my bike and the ECU re-map element of this transformed the throttle response, QS/Blipper smoothness, and eliminated the stalling problem I had when riding through congested traffic. Having been an Engineer for 25-years I can’t bring myself to criticise companies for minor defects, I’m more interested in how they rectify problems. As such, my Main Dealer (as always) was fantastic, minimising any disruption and ultimately rectifying the issue.

@TheF4llen77

2 ай бұрын

Your summary was and is much appreciatey. I am currently debating wether or not to buy a Tracer 9 GT possibly GT+

@Yama_Apri_521

2 ай бұрын

@@TheF4llen77 No worries, having re-read it, 2-years on, I wouldn’t change anything. I’m now on my second T9-GT, as I accumulated so many miles on the last one I was in danger of having little residual value for the PCP trade in. I grabbed another new (2023) and have covered another 12k trouble-free miles to date. You mention the GT+. I did consider this, but on balance I decided not to. The main benefits of the GT+ are the integrated SatNav and the Adaptive Cruise. I have the adaptive cruise on my car, and it drives me nuts in anything other than in slow, stop/start traffic, at which point, on the bike, I’d be filtering through. The integrated Nav appears to be a paid subscription based thing. It’s also a bit of a step backward to when my Nav was mounted on the handlebar yolk, something I personally didn’t like. My Garmin XT is mounted high up, so I don’t have to take my eyes off the road for more than a cursory glance. Therefore, the two benefits of the GT+ didn’t seem worth it for me, but others may have a very different view.

Outstanding review, outstanding channel. The best.

Great review, thanks to you both. This is on my list of bikes to test ride this year and has given me lots of things to think about 🙂

@bennettsbikesocial

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Let us know what you choose. Cheers, John

@yorkshirebiker

2 жыл бұрын

@@bennettsbikesocial Will do! At the moment this bike is on the list plus the Kawasaki Ninja 1000 SX, Suzuki GSX-1000 GT and the new Triumph Tiger 660 Sport.

Great discussions, you should do more of these! Thank you 👍 @ 27:00 the first generation of the Yamaha Tracer 900 was temporarily removed from the use of French police forces in 2019 because it sometimes showed hazardous behavior on bumpy roads at very brisk paces. Rhythms to which the police and gendarmes of the motorized brigades are nevertheless forced... Yet those bikes were not the same than the normal bikes (strengthen schock, modified aerodynamics because of the luggages,...). But as far as I know, there has not been the same concerns with the next generations.

Awesome video guys. I have really been debating one of these. This is the exact what I needed. Think I’m gonna order one!!

@bennettsbikesocial

2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant! Cheers, John

Got the big touring screen. Love it, especially on the interstate raised to high setting, no turbulence and really quiets the ride significantly.

The only two things I'd change are - the stock screen and the Mode button. Otherwise it's great. The clocks suit me, all the small digits are on things i never change, I like the programmability of the second screen to see things i care about in bigger letters - in particular the cruise control target speed. It's comfortable and eats miles without being as heavy or expensive as the GS or Triumph 1200.

Great review. Very in detail, covering more than you usually get from any kind of review. So, a big thumb up here. Subscribed for a long time. :) Keep going guys.

@bennettsbikesocial

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much! All the best, John

@RRRRefuelRideRace

2 жыл бұрын

@@bennettsbikesocial Thanks John.

What a fantastic and thorough review! All bike reviews should follow this format. I own a MT09 Tracer and I get the weave behind high sided vehicles. I presumed it was the short swinger arm or crap suspension. The tracer 9 hasn't improved this.

@michael-masi-2021

Ай бұрын

What kinda speeds? Would a steering damper have helped do you think?

Big fan of Calimoto. I use it everywhere for my fun rides and then pay for premium when I tour out of the ‘free’ area. Highly recommend it!

Nice honest review. It shows that there is no perfect bike, a bike for all use. But the T9 is great. Rode 2 yesterday. That engine 😁

Have to say again, love this style of review, really gets into nitty gritty. Comes across as 2 keen bikers talking, not just 2 presenters. 👍👍

@bennettsbikesocial

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! All the best, John

Love your video lads, especially this on as I did once own and MT09 for a few years, I now own an MT10 which I love. Merry Everything and a Happy New Year.

I think that was a good overview in general. I have done a couple of thousand miles on my Tracer 9 after owning a 2015 MT 09 Tracer. I have to say I would agree the only big issue is the screen. Ive changed mine for the Ermax sport and its much better but the original bikes screen was pants too, and the old one was not the bike this is. I love mine and totally agree that if you can only afford one bike and you want it to do everything this is a great option at a relatively (compared to some of the competition) good price. PS I dont have an issue with the clocks i think they add character (all be it the character of a diver)

Great video. I just purchased the 21 model my local dealer had leftover , I absolutely love this bike except for 1 thing…..the seat !!!! It’s pitch towards the tank makes it very uncomfortable to ride , I’d rather have it level.

Spot on. Agree with all of the points reviewed. I must say though, the S doc 100 total gel cleaner seems to have wrecked havoc with some bits and stripped black paint off. Centre stand, centre stand mount, the rear shock mount, suspension sensor rod etc. since then i switched to muc off. Also, the plastic cover over the clutch basket’s paint started stripping and cracking, possibly due to the same reason. Since, yamaha changed the cover foc. Also, have had the stalling once coming to stop at a roundabout, yamaha have released an ECU update and the fuelling now is way better, short of having a proper remap! Clocks are shite. MRA Vario screen is awesome (5’10) and otherwise it’s an amazing bike!

Good review chaps… Just have a few of my own thoughts to add here after my first 6,500 miles. The 1st thing to address is the high speed stability issue, this is purely down to the screen choice as I now well know, after trying several different ones on mine, it does not like a tall screen on at all when you get close to 3-digit speeds!! I now have a Givi screen (which properly shields the USB port) on mine, which I have had to cut 3-inches off the top of, as the turbulence was actually worse than the original screen, never thought that could actually be possible!?.. It’s much better now as a result, and is the best one I’ve tried on it so far, thankfully, as this issue has been a total nightmare for me.. 2nd is the mpg, I nearly always get 170 miles before the last bar starts flashing, and I’ve actually covered a further 42 miles once it does, which gives me an average of 52mpg, and I’m not going easy on it for a good 50% of each ride.. In fact, during last years tour I managed to get 245 miles between a couple of fuel stops, giving me an average of 61mpg! Their have been two recalls on this bike, the latter being an ECU remap from Yamaha, that addresses the stalling issue on the bike, with the other being a throttle tube replacement from plastic to a metal one.. It’s a brilliantly spec’d bike for the money, not much comes close to it in terms of value, yes it’s not perfect - but no bike is IMO!.. And looks are always subjective, and personally I do really like the look of it. Mine is in the Tech Kamo colour scheme, which I personably think it looks the best in! 😎 I’d agree entirely with that comment, with it being a Swiss Army Knife of a bike! 👍🏻 I still love mine and have no plans to swap in anytime soon.

@dougiequick1

Жыл бұрын

I see no reason to exceed "the ton" though I have got carried away a time or two and never the slightest wobble detected....I'm not calling anyone a liar of course as there are so many variables in roads and the loads one ends up with. I am generally carrying light luggage and I weigh "only" 200llbs with all my substantial gear on. I keep the seat in the low position and the suspension mostly in A1 unless I am riding for more than several hours in a go. The preload I keep at factory setting tires also factory specs 42 rear 36 front....no wobbles just really nice handling. What a wonderful motorcycle! I am not inclined to trade it in unless the 2023 tempts me with new clocks and radar cruise control and more! I am already dreaming how good that will be! Would LOVE to see better brakes on the 2021 Tracer 9GT +

@chadridsdale9970

10 ай бұрын

I have a '16 super tenere. Just sold my 03 fz1 (which I owned for 17 years). I test rode a tracer 9 gt yesterday. It felt very high quality, excellent all around. What I was concerned about was how light and twitchy the front end felt even compared to my fz. That can be fun but much of my riding is loaded for camping. I'm worried about having to pay too much attention to the front tire.

Merci pour ces réflexions approfondies sur cette très sympathique moto

Great conversation, it took this bike off my list 🙂

Demo'd the MT09 and Tracer 9 GT+ on Saturday (back to back) - re the buffeting and the screen - I found the screen less MT09 less noisy with less buffeting up to 95mph and it was windy too. The Tracer screen seemed to push the wind right at my head 😁 That engine is a peach - the ergonomics of the Tracer just fit so well. Flickable on country roads using the midrange in 4th gear was a joy. The ride home on my CBR felt uncomfortable if I'm honest 😊 I'm now looking to get the Tracer GT though I need to demo that as the Plus has one screen rather than 2... Great video guys 👌

@bennettsbikesocial

28 күн бұрын

Thanks, and enjoy making the choice! Cheers, John

Great review. I agree with many of the things said. I've had mine since June 2021 and have only put in a little over 4k miles at this point. That said, I think I know what I like and don't like about the bike. Since I agree with most of the opinions, I'll just mention that thing I like the most and hate the most. Hate the Most: Dash controls. More often than not, when I try to select the thing I want, I end up scrolling past it. Like the Most: Engine. My first triple and it has been a joy to ride around town and in the Rockies.

@bennettsbikesocial

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent - thanks for this! Cheers, John

I'd really like to know which the bikes are that Simon mentioned were hard to give back after a long test period. Brilliant review, really liked the exchanged and added opinions of the owners.

@bennettsbikesocial

2 жыл бұрын

Could make a good video!

Nice review, not got a Tracer or even a Yamaha but owned many in the past. I do have a few GS’s including a 750 I know it’s different and probably never really pushed but it’s returning nearly 70mpg. That aside just wanted to comment on screens and height because I think this is the wrong measure. I’m just over 6 foot but only have a 32 inch inside leg meaning longer upper body so I tend to sit higher up and always have problems with screens. A comparison would be another KZreadr TMF who says he has a 32 inch inside leg but is only 5 foot 8. So it’s not just height it’s how your body is composed that matters how good a screen is going to be for you.

@RRRRefuelRideRace

2 жыл бұрын

This is very true. It is just more complicated as some may think. Totally agree buddy. Drop by, you may find it interesting. :)

Hi gents, great review as always! I've been watching your review on the Kawasaki Versys 1000 (2019 tho) for which you said you would buy it as for a great allarounder. Would you finally choose the T9(GT) over the Kawa?

I went into a bike shop and wanted a 600 scooter for some fun and walked out with the Tracer9GT I love everything about it including it ts looks but I would like to thank you for your reviews as it was these reviews that helped me purchase, nice one guys. The only mod was I re sculptured the seat, and I hate where the key is lol you have to dive in to get to it

I love my 2022 Tracer GT, compared to what's on the market , they can't be beat.

Great vid of two blokes raving about how good a bike is for an hour, then when asked if they would buy one? answer "Nah" still right up the top of my list for next bike... (used Dulville included)

I think this is a beautiful bike, will buy 1 soon.

Good review. Wouldn’t disagree with anything you said. I use mine to tour and as a weekend pooteler. I only have room for one bike and for the money it’s brilliant. Bought with 3,000 miles on it and I’d say it’s the best all round bike on the market at the moment. Looks like it was designed by a 16yo though so tend to walk away quickly when I park it up.

Great review:) This type of high quality and in-depth content really set this channel apart. I own a 2018 Tracer 900. I still love it, especially the engine. The wind buffeting is annoying, but can be solved with smaller sport screens (even though this did consequently caused back issues on longer days in the saddle due to added pressure on the chest and shoulders:))

@RRRRefuelRideRace

2 жыл бұрын

Will try to arrange a test ride these days. :) I am really interested in this bike, just the standard one. :) Anyways can check my content. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Enjoyed that, thanks lads

@bennettsbikesocial

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Cheers, John

Got a 2017 and still own it, it’s that good after a couple mods. The screen was like a hurricane, absolute crap. No screen in summer, very tall Givi with deflector in winter. The only screen that stopped the noise after trying loads. Nitron rear shock sorted the handling. All in, now a great bike where I can use the full power of the engine for a very reasonable total cost. Oh, and did I mention how light it is?

I love the look, great review, thanks

@bennettsbikesocial

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much! All the best, John

I finally got to test one today and loved it. The seating position, the feel, so many things have put this in contention as my next bike. But I agree with them about the looks, just don’t love the looks.

@Matthew-wn8oq

5 ай бұрын

The cure for that is the xsr900

@shaneking5610

5 ай бұрын

I did buy the Tracer in red. Love this bike, even more so once I got the Ermax screen.

Absolutely love the T9GT except fuel gauge (kinna hard to estimate fuel beyond half tank) & it's missing a fuel range. Cheers from Sarawak.

I have the 21’ MT-09 and there’s definitely something with the programming for the abs. It’s not something I’d fuss about unless I was on track. But it definitely gets really upset when braking over some broken road or when you just need that extra bit to slow down. It just gets a little intrusive because you know there’s more till lock. I think when you have the experience you work around it. But I can see someone with less experience going into panic mode. I’d like to try different pads then steel braided lines to see if that helps or if it would have to be solved with tuning.

The recall remap fixes the stalling thing you have experienced :)

I’m thinking of changing from 650 Interceptor to Tracer 700 or Tracer 900. Which should I go for? I don’t want to be cramped, I won’t be riding 2 up. I want a decent screen??? Any other suggestions

I have a tracer 9GT ; a great bike, love riding it, if I had to change sth, it would be a softer (better) seat, and maybe more settings for adjustable suspension ( it only has 2 modes)

Does the tracer 9gt do anything better than the bmw s1000xr? Which one is more comfortable riding around for a full day? Does the tracer soak up the bumps better? Thank you

I have the 2015 abs version of the tracer 900, start to looking for the my next bike, not sure if I want to go back to a triumph tiger 1050 sport( no new modelversions yet) or go for the current version, I like them both triple engines but the problem I have is when I am two up with full luggage, the bike is very top heavy and find the wheels/ bottom want to wash out, so ride gingerly and not any real distance or confidence in the bike. The Tiger 1050 2010 found it never had that problem. so does the new version of the tracer able to lessen or elimates the problem of wheels wash out. Tyres I put the Mitchelin road 5 on my bike and not look back to the maxxis tyres which came on the bike when I bought it. No steering damper.

There is a recall for the engine stalling (software update). Still riding my sporty first mt-09 tracer! Hearing your story the new one is more comfy / touring. Greets from Holland.

@bennettsbikesocial

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers - yes, this was filmed a fair while before the recall, but I mentioned it in the description. All the best, John

There are only 2 things id change about the looks. The pannier shape and the headlights. And despite those things I still look back at it every time I dismount.

Hoping to purchase a used Tracer soon. What model year are the Tracers you tested and what "prior" models might provide the same performance and satisfaction? Thanks!

I had the 2015 FJ09. Loved the engine! Hated the seat! I ultimately found a custom seat guy who took the stock seat and built a suitable seat for me. I also had to get a different windshield (Parabellum) as the stock windshield was terrible as well. Overall it was a great bike. The new ones are light years ahead of my 2015 model. I put over 33,000 miles on mine before I parted with it. Why? Because I knew I was going to do myself in with that awesome engine. But I have to tell ya this new version is tempting.

Which bikes would you buy over this one with your own money? You didn't mention specific bikes in the video.Cheers for the videos by the way. I'm always watching!

I love everything about this bike except that display setup, feels like I am staring at someone where one of those silly glasses/nose masks with the large eyebrows! Once someone pointed that out in another video, I can't unsee it! Not a deal breaker, but I wish they had kept the display from the previous version!

Great review. Yes, I have the '15. I've had many bikes, and this is great for "real world use", but I'm not passionate about it. Funny thing is, as you mentioned...it gets you to places quick. Never late for work on it. But now that I work from home?...well now it just kind of sits there. Yeah, enough said. The girl next door, but not the prom queen!

as an owner of a 2019 tracer 900 GT , and an 2021 1250 GS Rallye which im about to sell, the tracer is absolutely an awesome ride which is why im keeping it

I loved my MT09 Tracer (2015) , had ktech fitted front and rear, and with pilot road 5's it was fantastic on twisty roads. But the throttle was such an on off switch that at low speeds, and moving off at turns and stuff just ruined the rides. (Tried a booster plug, meh) Now you've given me a notion for another one. BAH!

@coryjordan2368

11 ай бұрын

ivans reflash has fixed that snatchy throttle, just got back from 200 mile ride in the CA mountains. different bike for sure.(against no flash)

Is that corrosion at the end of the brake line on the red bike?

What did you notice in particular with the Ermax sport screen? Was there buffeting? Where did the Air hit you? Thanks.

Hi I'm still waiting to hear what the v7 sounds like with the arrow exhaust please as I'm Interested in the v7 stone. Thanks Stuart 👍

i've been looking into the tracer this gave me the insight i needed

@bennettsbikesocial

2 жыл бұрын

That's great to hear, thanks! Cheers, John

I’m getting rid of my 2017 GSX1000-S to get one of these. I test rode one on a whim, thought I’d think nothing of it but it made me think about all the things I haven’t got on the GSX. Albeit the GSX is a naked beast, but that’s half the problem; 163 bhp (full system and re-map) and you just get battered all over the place. And unless you’re on a track, the power is just not worth the risk to both life or licence. Whereas the Tracer gives you that bit of everything, and you don’t mind banging it though wet / winter riding too. A real experience opener, opposed to having an 8k naked thing that’s only used in dry weather. You’d even give the sports bike guys a run on some twisties 😉

My friend is very unhappy with his new 22 plate gt as he’s sure the front wheel bearings have gone (under 200 miles). Dealer still looking into it, as the is a strange noise?

Do the slits in those Ermax screens actually make any difference or are they Snake Oil?

What brand is the screen on the red bike please?

I have a Tracer 9 GT and have a Yamaha 51 litre Top Box for it, but can't use it as in these Covid disrupted times, the mounting plate has been on back order for 5 months. I presume Shad make the mounting plate, but Shad HQ in Spain said they knew nothing about it, so perhaps it is Shad US. However, I would like to see if I can source a mounting plate myself seeing Yamaha NZ seem incapable of supplying one.

My Z900RS does the same thing on a quick hot start after being off for a second. Sometimes its fije but other times it starts and sort of chugs for a few seconds andnyou have to rev it up. Like you said its lke clearing a carb bike out.

My current bugbear with the bike is the aux socket - fused at 2A (24w), hardly enough power for anything except a mobile. Lights could be better - bike doesn't seem to stand out much. Other than that I still love the bike.

Hello all just got one today. Did 500km from the dealer and felt a bit of vibrations on motorway, around 5000rpm, there is a high frequency vibes that you fell in the handlebar and pegs. Is it just me? Anyone feels this. Thanks

it’s a huge advantage for me and I don’t know why, but people usually don’t mention that thing. During weekend ride on the Tracer 9 GT, I found that there is NO heat that comes from the engine to rider - at all! That’s huge deal for me, as I recently tried Monster 937 and it burned my ass and left leg, it was not possible for me to ride the bike during C 25+ in the city. Similar feedback I hear from the Tiger 900 owners (direct competitor) - radiator fans positioned in a way that puts hot air flow directly to your knees and during summer in traffic it’s hart to stand the heat, so they need to install additional wing to redirect the flow, but it falls off because of high temperatures affect the adhesives. I realised that it is a quite big thing for me and I cannot enjoy the ride when bike cooks me alive, so on top of other pros that you’ve mentioned - seems like Tracer 9 is something that will tick alI boxes for me.

@ChrisSauer-oe5ve

4 ай бұрын

Good question, I agree and still looking for that answer as well 🤔

If you didn’t go for the Tracer 900 what other bike manufacturer would you go for. Similarly if you didn’t go for a Tracer 700 what would you go for

love my new tracer I sold my 2015 vstrom 1000 for this bike its 17 k canadian funds here in vancouver canada,great bike I only got 1700 km on it though ~~and i did have it do that engine stall coming on to a stop sigh!i though i did something wrong too ,not sure what it was any idea??

Mode button where headlight flash is Soooo annoying 😡, my gixxer is the same, hate it. On paper, during your chat, and in the flesh (metal), this should be the perfect bike for me. But I just can’t pull the trigger on it with it being such an uninspiring fugly thing (I’m with Simon) with ridiculous tiny clocks I can’t read. Presently stuck in a never ending cycle of thinking about M/Strada V2S - Tiger 900 Roadie Pro - Tiger Sport 660. Heart says Tigger9 🤔. Great Video boys 👍

Can anyone tell me why, after a few thousand miles, the exhaust looks so discoured on this model? Spoils the look for the bike for me - Or is it just a case of keeping it clean?

really great reviews 👍 btw what brand and model is the leather jacket you're wearing?

@bennettsbikesocial

Жыл бұрын

I've got an RST Fusion jacket on. Cheers, John

Recall has just been issued by Yamaha including a stalling issue

28:10 Saying the Bridgestone T32's are really good while there is still hair on the tyre... This hurts my eyes and doesnt justify the statement that they are really good Nice review. Love how u at least road them for a long time instead of just 1 trip of an hour and reviewing. Keep up the good work

@Surpriseify

2 жыл бұрын

Because chasing lean angles on the street is how you judge how good a tyre is. :)

@oederdekoe

2 жыл бұрын

@@Surpriseify True

I had the tracer 900 gt with lots of upgrades to it. 320 brake rotors and braided brake lines, k-tech rear shock and k-tech cartridge front. Flashed the ecu with an aftermarket exhaust resulted in a much smoother throttle. Also had the ermax short screen. But no matter what i did the bike still handled ''funny''. Before the tracer i had a 2016 kawasaki z1000sx. The kawi is a much better bike for sport touring with emphasis on the sport side. Sold the tracer for a 2020 mt-10. Best decision ever, I'm in love with that one :D Greetings from sunny Greece

@ApriliaRacer14

Жыл бұрын

I noticed the GT is a bit unstable when pushing it in the corners.

Man that exhaust system looks very rusted. Is there any way to keep it a bit shiner.

My Tracer 9 GT has had 2 recalls up to now , 1 for the throttle body and the next one i have is to have the ECU done due to stalling when moving off which it has done a couple of times , other than that i love it.

@nemerkha

2 жыл бұрын

The first recall isn’t for the throttle body. It’s for the accelerator grip. Throttle body incidents haven’t been widespread, recognised or rectified by yamaha recalls (yet). They are however replacing throttle bodies for affected bikes.

Thanks for this guys. I bought a 24 Tracer GT+ recently. This clip helped me decide. You bring up steering dampers. Imagine you're not an overly confident rider, riding normal speeds but in Asia on sometimes dreadful roads, and money is not a barrier, if i install an Oohlins steering damper is there any downside?

@bennettsbikesocial

Ай бұрын

There shouldn't be, be I've only ever really felt one was absolutely necessary, and that was on terrible roads on a Monster S4

Although I have never rode the BMW1000RS. I can imagine it is a better bike than the Yamaha T9. It would certainly cost a lot more. Value for money, reliability, excitement and for a do everything bike, I’d pick the Yamaha. If I went European, the BMW. There is a lot said about the looks of a motorcycle, I can’t say any adventure bike really catching my eye. They are though a very practical format that keeps getting better. It’s easy to see why there so popular. As I don’t have a huge commute or go touring, I’m happy for now to stick to the sport naked format but might consider the T7 if my circumstances changed

I think it looks amazing.

I've heard the suspension feels cheap is the main thing. Other than a Jerky throttle. But this is the one I'm leaning towards

Hello Guys, Anyone knows this fault solution? 2022 Tracer 9 GT loss power within 5-10 seconds after a take off. The power I get from the very start is 60% more and 40% after 5-10 seconds. ive changed the fuel pump and the 3 injector nozzles but still to no avail. this started the very day I installed a keyless fuel tank cover. After I arrived at a friends house, like 5klm. I came back to the bike after 3 hours and when I start the bike, I noticed petrol coming out from the exhaust and I immediately turn off the engine until the next day, I changed the engine oil and start the bike and I noticed that I’m losing power after a few seconds. If I stop, turn off and turn on again, the initial take off is awesome but drop after a few seconds again. I didnt experience this with the stock fuel tank cover. So today, I loosed the tank cover and screwed it half way, but still no change. please do you’ve a solution?

The one thing I would fault with this bike in my opinion is the street presence. The front lights are so pitifully small, they are hardly visible. Couple that with the fact only one is illuminated on the low beam setting compounds the issue. Otherwise, a great bike from what I can see. If I were to purchase this bike, I would have to install auxillary lighting. If it were unavailable, it would be a deal breaker for me.

a few points, in my 53 yrs with a range of bikes, i stopped using top boxes decades ago and if touring panniers and tank bag has always been my go to set up. Then in 2007 a I bought a sport touring Ducati 916 ST4 which I've still got and done about 90,000 kms on in bog std trim except Zero Gravity ST screen. These Tracer 9 Gt are great bikes but it is not acceptable too have this well reported weave. All bikes can get disturbed following a high sided vehicle because of the unavoidable swirling air currents. They said 140 mph becomes a potentially dangerous situation. Even when totally loaded and two up my 22 yr old ST4 is totally stable and still pulling strong upto 150mph (only done twice one up) and the handling and road holding flawless. No need for steering damper! your tyres Bridgestone T32 will be great touring, but as an old codger i need my Bridgestone S22 hypersports as mental insurance, but they do not heat up quickly (10kms needed) as if give it the throttle whilst vertical it lights up the rear tyre (triple compound). upside is medium and shoulder grip is phenominal. just my 2 cents.

Just started researching ways to reduce buffeting. Today is first time I heard references about lowering a windscreen to reduce buffeting. 🤔🎶

@I_am_Thursday

2 ай бұрын

Definitely. Ride a naked bike and there is no buffeting, and usually quiet. Add screens in front of you and all hell breaks loose. So much so I put a ram mount universal phone holder on my 114 fatbob and you wouldn't believe the difference when i first mounted it above the handlebars to when i lowered it to as close to the tank as possible. It's a real juggling act between getting the turbulent air just below your helmet.

Old vid now but I noticed you are calling the original version the "MR-09 Tracer" Must be UK/Euro naming because in the US everyone calls that original generation the "FJ09" I think though I have only heard of them never had or even rode one personally. Shoot now there is significantly updated Tracer 9gt+ so 4th generation? Depending what constitutes a true generation ? given it is still the same engine frame wheels bod ywork and more

There was a recall of the Tracer GT stalling. I had the same issue.

Not so long ago i remember the 1050 tigersport & the ad’ “if you could only have one bike ❕❔”

I have an MT09 2014 and it regularly will shut down when I am coming up to a junction and slowing down.