Yamaha MT-09 (2024) Review : Dark Side of Japan Updated for 2024

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#Yamaha has used the 2024 model year to update one of its best-selling nakeds, as the 2024 Yamaha #MT09 is released with improved technology, chassis hardware, styling tweaks, and some aural improvements for this year.
The launch ride of the MT-09 took place on the volcanic island of #Lanzarote, with a full day of riding and about 130 miles to cover.
Here's how we got on!
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  • @mortenolsen3391
    @mortenolsen33914 ай бұрын

    I have ordered mine. I can’t wait to get it😎

  • @gizmangr

    @gizmangr

    4 ай бұрын

    i have ordered too but a long wait here in australia july or august how about you how long do you have to wait

  • @silvery2850

    @silvery2850

    4 ай бұрын

    You guys are rich.

  • @mortenolsen3391

    @mortenolsen3391

    4 ай бұрын

    @@gizmangr the dealer has promised me delivery by 9 April at the latest. (In Denmark)

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    How? This thing offers decent value compared to the competition!?@@silvery2850

  • @kurc24k76

    @kurc24k76

    4 ай бұрын

    @@mortenolsen3391 when did you put down the order?

  • @vincentcausey8498
    @vincentcausey84983 ай бұрын

    I bought the 2021 when it came out, and everyone was raving about the improvements. Looks like they've done it again, but I have to say, I still love my 2021 version.

  • @KingFriday274
    @KingFriday2744 ай бұрын

    I just bought a 2023 and I noticed the clutch engagement point changes drastically as it warms up.

  • @gordonhenry7760
    @gordonhenry77604 ай бұрын

    Great review...always appreciate your comments.

  • @SergeyVikultsev
    @SergeyVikultsev4 ай бұрын

    The views are spectacular !

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    It's like riding a bike on another planet over there!

  • @ozzyg82
    @ozzyg824 ай бұрын

    Can’t wait for the R9 based on this platform…

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    We are all waiting so patiently!

  • @ThatCleanMT

    @ThatCleanMT

    4 ай бұрын

    😂 🫵🏽🤡

  • @dylanswafford1301

    @dylanswafford1301

    4 ай бұрын

    World supersport is dropping the R6 after this year and the R9 track version is replacing it. So hopefully the street version will follow and come out in 2025. I hope at least haha

  • @Nine.siixxx

    @Nine.siixxx

    4 ай бұрын

    @@dylanswafford1301I call bs on track r9 why would they bring the r9 to track? It’s useless engine for track it can barely do 220-230kph

  • @xXAkitokunXx

    @xXAkitokunXx

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Nine.siixxxdiffeeent tunes and components man. Look at the r1 and the mt10 they have subtle changes you don’t see like titanium valves and I think shorter stroke not sure but su the changes. So more hp I bet out of the r9 but less torque than the mt09. I’m sure Yamaha knows what they are doing.

  • @ElwoodPDowd-ed7pc
    @ElwoodPDowd-ed7pcАй бұрын

    Nice review and bike! What a superb place to ride, epic!!

  • @kwaka140
    @kwaka1404 ай бұрын

    My deposit has been paid, 2024 MT-09SP. Can't wait. Fingers crossed we get enough in the country for me to get one.

  • @rojoracing53

    @rojoracing53

    3 ай бұрын

    what is your quote delivery date?

  • @kwaka140

    @kwaka140

    3 ай бұрын

    May, maybe

  • @chriswest2290

    @chriswest2290

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@kwaka140 that's early. I heard the SP release was june 👍

  • @MrKaurT

    @MrKaurT

    Ай бұрын

    Does new SP has steering damper?

  • @kwaka140

    @kwaka140

    Ай бұрын

    @@MrKaurT I don't think so

  • @LordSaladin629
    @LordSaladin6293 ай бұрын

    Picking mine up in 3 days can’t wait

  • @cliveomahoney4096
    @cliveomahoney40964 ай бұрын

    Excellent vid. You didn't mention cruise control? I think I heard somewhere that the new base model has it. If so, I'm certainly getting one.

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    Yep, there's not much to say, it's a one button arm/engage system with a rocker switch to adjust the speed. It works is about all I can say! :-)

  • @markosz22
    @markosz224 ай бұрын

    This was the last bike I expected Yamaha to update, and man it's such a great update for basically the same price. Feels a bit painful to have gotten a gen3 just recently last year :D But I guess I'll manage until the R9 comes out.

  • @rafikshahnazarian7632
    @rafikshahnazarian76324 ай бұрын

    Great Review 👍Fantastic Bike

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback and for watching!

  • @boywonderrr71
    @boywonderrr714 ай бұрын

    I will be calling around to get mine this week. Dont have one local so Florida or NC,SC maybe GA

  • @SirMountainpass
    @SirMountainpass4 ай бұрын

    The icon becomes even more iconic as gen4 - for me, the new SP will be my next bike 😃👏🔥💯🏁

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    We can’t wait for the launch of that, should be this spring!

  • @hendrikjdeb

    @hendrikjdeb

    4 ай бұрын

    @@visordown Any word on when that wil be dropping?

  • @khrisstake2210

    @khrisstake2210

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@hendrikjdebMarch

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    Launch in the spring in the UK we think but not confirmed

  • @MalShakur
    @MalShakur3 ай бұрын

    Where can you find those lower profile Yamaha mirrors that I keep seeing in the B roll?

  • @Ben_321cc
    @Ben_321cc3 ай бұрын

    I didn't believe love at first sight till now 😍😍

  • @512460
    @5124604 ай бұрын

    What's with the Mt09 in the low light with all these better specd items. Akro exhaust, yamaha bar end mirror/ gillies.. And I think some aftermarket rear sets or maybe just foot pegs been changed to black and the yamaha brake levers/gillies collab similar to the mirrors

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    That's highlighting the accessories you can bolt on either at the dealer or post-sale.

  • @512460

    @512460

    4 ай бұрын

    @@visordown ohh okay.. They should sell it that way haha. It makes a night and day difference in astetics

  • @user-xq4hz1nf6y
    @user-xq4hz1nf6y3 ай бұрын

    2:33 the suspention doesn't look firm enough, right?

  • @chadrichards8930
    @chadrichards89303 ай бұрын

    Quickshifters work WAY smoother after you do the first oil change and put some full synthetic motul in them

  • @karsconijn1876
    @karsconijn18764 ай бұрын

    Love the looks of the new model, can't wait to see what the mt07 will look like.

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    You and me both!

  • @dylanswafford1301

    @dylanswafford1301

    4 ай бұрын

    Mt07, and mt03 have stayed the exact same unfortunately.

  • @karsconijn1876

    @karsconijn1876

    4 ай бұрын

    @@dylanswafford1301 thats sad, got the feeling they dont wanna mess with something thats still selling strong. But would have made it better (in my opinion)

  • @dylanswafford1301

    @dylanswafford1301

    4 ай бұрын

    @@karsconijn1876agree. Well i guess i wasnt fully honest. The mt07 did get the new tft screen with the phone connectivity. But thats it. In the U.S. market atleast. I cant speak for Europe models lol

  • @chriswest2290
    @chriswest22903 ай бұрын

    Does it have a steering damper ?

  • @nipperthewestie4143
    @nipperthewestie41434 ай бұрын

    I have the gen 3 sp and really happy with it no niggles so far but id like a test ride on this to see the difference.

  • @blinkguy4ever
    @blinkguy4ever2 ай бұрын

    I wonder if my akra exhaust for my 22 will fit in this one

  • @MrKaurT
    @MrKaurTАй бұрын

    Does the new SP has steering damper also?

  • @juanmaferdharo5762
    @juanmaferdharo57623 ай бұрын

    nice video!

  • @sethglenn9022
    @sethglenn90224 ай бұрын

    I can't be the only one that would like to see a fairing between the seat and the radiator. Much like the OG MT-10. In fact I was sad to see the MT-10 lose that fairing. But overall this bike is a MASSIVE improvement in looks, I also dig the seat.

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    The seat is much better. It's comfier and you now have a pillion perch to rest on as you accelerate.

  • @2W_Adventure
    @2W_Adventure4 ай бұрын

    Respect ♥️🫡

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @tahongchipsahoy
    @tahongchipsahoy2 ай бұрын

    Im confused, the other shots that you are showing with the modified exhaust, is that the latest version too?

  • @Abundance4LL

    @Abundance4LL

    2 ай бұрын

    U have a dealer option for akrapovic exhaust

  • @MrRGM10
    @MrRGM102 ай бұрын

    Had before 2016 mt 09 not sure if im coming back.

  • @stevenelliott5403
    @stevenelliott54034 ай бұрын

    The clutch on my 2022 MT-09 is the same, nothing until the last 15mm

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    I didn't remember it being like that on the long term bike I had a couple of years back.

  • @devilmaycry383
    @devilmaycry3834 ай бұрын

    Waiting for the SP will be a delightful upgrade from my 2016 first-generation MT-07. The fourth generation MT-09 is the ideal choice due to its comprehensive refinements.

  • @switcherlp780

    @switcherlp780

    4 ай бұрын

    Man I am excited for you, the MT09 is so much more meaty than an 07

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    We are all waiting patiantly for that!

  • @graytower1786
    @graytower17862 ай бұрын

    that's a very beautiful bike for me , i love MT-09

  • @shubsodhi5986
    @shubsodhi59864 ай бұрын

    hmm nice, now I just got to wait for the xsr 900 to get these updates. Hopefully next year. 🤞

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    The XSR got it's revamp a little while back, it might be a year or so before that's tweked again.

  • @almo29
    @almo294 ай бұрын

    Great Review! Now... I konw it's not very likely since the R1 is discon the MT10 will prob be the same. But I RLY RLY want one with this styling! I'd buy it at most one minute after beeing anounced.. :)

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    I’m not sure the MT10 is going anywhere just yet

  • @almo29

    @almo29

    4 ай бұрын

    @@visordown Rly hope ur right :) I did a photoshop with the new MT09 parts on the current MT10SP and I didnt get less excited... XD

  • @davea9946
    @davea99464 ай бұрын

    Did they fix the clutch basket issue ?

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    It gets more dogteeth now and engages sweeter. The Q/S is better on this bike too.

  • @jihbadgermonkey
    @jihbadgermonkey2 ай бұрын

    @visordown So with the quickshifter, it actually interrupts the ignition spark to automatically rpm match and up or downshift. So don't let off the throttle when you upshift, and let all the way off when you downshift. This is coming from a friend of Arnett industries, and dreyer yamaha. Suzuki, and kawasaki of Indy. My personal bike is the 2024 honda transalp, and the quickshifter does the same as the new yamaha one. However. The mt09 and the sp models have a much smoother QS than the honda, and it feels a little more heavy duty.

  • @flatcapcaferacer
    @flatcapcaferacer4 ай бұрын

    Here I thought the VMax or the RD350/400 were the most famous Yamaha naked bikes. Thanks Toad.

  • @jimmylau6388
    @jimmylau63884 ай бұрын

    How's the vibration at the handlebar at various RPM? I rode an older MT that had high frequency buzzy vibration. Maybe it was a lemon?

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    No issues on this one, and we did some longer stints at higher speeds.

  • @jimmylau6388

    @jimmylau6388

    4 ай бұрын

    @@visordown Thanks. Can't wait to see one. Too bad they don't do demo anymore in Canada....

  • @rcafmaintainer3723
    @rcafmaintainer3723Ай бұрын

    Clutch, I find my Tracer 9 GT, is the same as you describe, grubby. I find it tough to get a smooth launch unless I do a track-style launch.

  • @flatcapcaferacer
    @flatcapcaferacer4 ай бұрын

    Here I thought the Yamaha VMax or the Yamaha 350/400 was the most famous Yamaha naked bike. Thanks Toad.

  • @abrahamjohnkutty5534
    @abrahamjohnkutty55342 ай бұрын

    Does this actually be a good one for a 6’ rider. Anyone

  • @xristoskatsaboulas1566
    @xristoskatsaboulas15664 ай бұрын

    How much will we have to wait for the sp ?

  • @switcherlp780

    @switcherlp780

    4 ай бұрын

    The way I understand it, USA gets the SP in May or June

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    Coming to the UK in the spring we think.

  • @bernardo290499111
    @bernardo2904991114 ай бұрын

    In the brazilian market, which is a big market for yamaha, its too bad that the brand doesnt want to invest here updating their models, the 09 is still the 2020 model and the 07 is still the FIRST 2016 MODEL, and they’re all assembled within the country, the only bike they brought the newer model is the mt03 which sells like crazy

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    that's a shame as they have all got steadily better. Is there much appetite for 600cc + machines in Brazil? Or is it mainly smaller capacity 125 to 400 cc bikes?

  • @bernardo290499111

    @bernardo290499111

    4 ай бұрын

    @@visordown yes there’s a lot of appettite for all kinds of bikes here, you should look up brazil’s bike culture even tho there are a lot of idiots in it xD. Mainly lower cc’s because of the utilitary pov and price, but for instance last year Brazil’s top 5 naked sportbikes sales are MT03 at 2500 registered, 1160 CB500s, 760 MT07’s and 750 MT09s. High CC sportbikes with fairings are also very popular, from the R15 to S1000rr which is also assembled here and sells like crazy. The main reason yamaha and the other brands dont update their models if because of high taxing gov and burocracy i guess. I also own a ‘22 MT09 and a ‘23 636 and sportbikes are getting popular again apparently through isle of man TT, social media, MOTO GP and unaffordable sportcar prices. Nice review btw

  • @bestofsbyego87
    @bestofsbyego872 ай бұрын

    whats the song at 11:03 ?

  • @mm93249
    @mm932494 ай бұрын

    How does it compare to the new 990 Duke?

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    Better value but we haven’t tested the 990 yet.

  • @azurecoast45
    @azurecoast452 ай бұрын

    Damn, don't even get to hear the motor the whole vid. Thanks for describing the sound with words though?

  • @neilsolomon9149
    @neilsolomon91494 ай бұрын

    The Japanese are masters. ❤️

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    Nailed this one for sure!

  • @do.on2wheels38

    @do.on2wheels38

    4 ай бұрын

    Masters of torque* haha I had to

  • @KingFriday274
    @KingFriday2744 ай бұрын

    For me one of the selling points was the super moto style riding position so I'm disappointed that they've changed it.

  • @diversityhobbit
    @diversityhobbit2 ай бұрын

    best looking version

  • @xorbe2
    @xorbe2Ай бұрын

    Man those bars 6:00 look Harley high.

  • @bogdanm7873
    @bogdanm78734 ай бұрын

    How does it compares to Street Triple?

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    Not as focused and with more of a fun factor you don't get with the Street Triple.

  • @rafaon2wheels301
    @rafaon2wheels3014 ай бұрын

    Cant wait to get mine and slap it a "coca cola can" as a exhaust tip

  • @amococ2487

    @amococ2487

    4 ай бұрын

    You have to change the full exhaust. You can't get just a slip on

  • @rafaon2wheels301

    @rafaon2wheels301

    4 ай бұрын

    @@amococ2487 i know, i might go for the SC crt

  • @tengaix
    @tengaix4 ай бұрын

    Already put my money for 2024 SP, have to wait till July but 😔

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    What region are you in?

  • @tubejorrit
    @tubejorrit4 ай бұрын

    Is it now easier to get your knee down? Is the seating position sporty enough to compete with the street triple?

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    No idea, we only rode it on the road

  • @bajo
    @bajo4 ай бұрын

    Was hoping for some more interesting colours with this gen. Hopefully they’ll do some variants

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    Yamaha tends to keep it fairly moody, esp with the MT range - it would be interesting to see some colour for sure.

  • @jamiesteiger6140

    @jamiesteiger6140

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes, The accent colors are terrible.

  • @kloppskalli
    @kloppskalli4 ай бұрын

    9:12 sounds like my Tenere clutch - maybe it's a Yamaha thing?

  • @chriswest2290
    @chriswest22904 ай бұрын

    The mt09 sp or street triple?

  • @bogdanm7873

    @bogdanm7873

    4 ай бұрын

    Same question here, I think I will go with the Triumph I guess due to material finishes, build quality, brand and most important for me high redline ❤️

  • @chriswest2290

    @chriswest2290

    4 ай бұрын

    @bogdanm7873 I'm leaning that way too. Although here in Asia the triumph is alot more expensive

  • @bogdanm7873

    @bogdanm7873

    4 ай бұрын

    @@chriswest2290 funny thing in Romania MT09 SP is more than Street Triple RS by 8-900 Euro

  • @chriswest2290

    @chriswest2290

    4 ай бұрын

    @bogdanm7873 it's a no brainer. Go with the triumph.

  • @fred3527
    @fred35274 ай бұрын

    I have a 2022 MT09SP and it has none of the shortcomings Toad had with his bike. I must have gotten lucky and really love the bike (looks aside).

  • @Speedytrip
    @Speedytrip4 ай бұрын

    I had an FZ09 in 2015, it was an absolute blast to ride. I'm sure the 2024 MT09 is a dream to ride, but damn the design reminds me of the street fighter bike scene of the 90s, when they made naked bikes out of crashed sport bikes. Add to that horrendous colors and its just so disappointing. I love Yamaha, unfortunately there's nothing really in their lineup that is truly sexy (The T700 properly modified looks good), but overall their lineup looks a bit immature, and looks more like plastic manga toys than real motorcycles. They would gain from really revisiting their heritage (a bit like Triumph did). The XSR900 looks much better, but than put it next to a Kawasaki Z900RS and again, the yamaha will look a bit cheap (even if its high quality).

  • @wolfurine
    @wolfurine4 ай бұрын

    Centurion's mask Toad? Surely you mean a Samurai's? I thought that was the look they were going for tbh haha 🤔

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    I don't think that'd look out of place on Russel Crowe! Well, maybe nowadays it would! :-)

  • @mopedblade
    @mopedblade4 ай бұрын

    It's perfect

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    Pretty much!

  • @512460

    @512460

    4 ай бұрын

    That's a bit of a reach in my opinion. Still lacks a few things example braided lines, brembos rear brakes, heated grips, could look better,things still look tacky and unfinished, ohlins up front, could do with more power and torque. So in my opinion it's quite a distance from perfect. And this is me talking about the sp version not even this base model

  • @blazingwheels7293
    @blazingwheels72934 ай бұрын

    Of all the Japanese middle weight bikes the coolest and the most sexiest is the Z900 no doubt about it.

  • @dernicolas6281

    @dernicolas6281

    4 ай бұрын

    Lots of doubts... Haha.

  • @JamesBond-ph6hr
    @JamesBond-ph6hr4 ай бұрын

    Does this mean the 2023 model would sound better than the 2024?

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    No, it's the other way around.

  • @ridingdriving
    @ridingdriving4 ай бұрын

    why does he sound like he is talking from a spaceship

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    It was blowin a gale and super windy, so the mic was a little crowded! 🌬️

  • @Hybrids4meok
    @Hybrids4meok4 ай бұрын

    Speed Triple 765 RS or MT-09 hmm

  • @jeebangurung6683
    @jeebangurung6683Ай бұрын

    made beautiful vs spontaneous beautiful.....

  • @davmanlop333
    @davmanlop3334 ай бұрын

    Not worth a upgrade from my gen 3

  • @bblueangel2
    @bblueangel24 ай бұрын

    I hatenthe front. The last one was so much better. It looks les agressive.

  • @beverleynorth4914
    @beverleynorth49143 ай бұрын

    This or Monster??

  • @xorbe2

    @xorbe2

    Ай бұрын

    If you are asking, the Yamaha will be easier. Monster is a big twin, you either hate it or love it.

  • @user-hf8ie8mf3n
    @user-hf8ie8mf3n4 ай бұрын

    I have to admit that I miss it when the occasional goof would interrupt T’s reviews. Ah the memories. Cheers. 👍🤪🏳️‍🌈

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah, they had this area roped off pretty well!! 😅😅😅

  • @johns1139
    @johns11394 ай бұрын

    Oral pleasure > Aural pleasure

  • @RogueZeroYT
    @RogueZeroYT4 күн бұрын

    A few what!!?!? 😭😭

  • @Jagknorr
    @Jagknorr4 ай бұрын

    The front looks even worse now 😂. Giant white plate looks hideous.

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    Which white plate?

  • @Jagknorr

    @Jagknorr

    4 ай бұрын

    @@visordownactually it looks to be on one but not the other. It looks maybe to be a fly screen. Possibly covering the speedo.

  • @EdwardVarner
    @EdwardVarner2 ай бұрын

    Oral or auditory?

  • @TIMHARTTT
    @TIMHARTTT4 ай бұрын

    Cyan color would be cool at night but with sun light it looks like baby blue 🫠

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    The SP is the best looking!

  • @TIMHARTTT

    @TIMHARTTT

    4 ай бұрын

    @@visordown are we going to see your review soon or we will have to wait for it ??

  • @Xerdoz
    @Xerdoz3 ай бұрын

    They ruined the SP with that stupid keyless ignition.

  • @DarR1299
    @DarR12994 ай бұрын

    Those colored wheels Yuk. Big negative on resale IMHO.

  • @kausikmr
    @kausikmr4 ай бұрын

    grey color are so boring, need more colors

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    Yamaha like to keep it simple, the motto is 'The Dark Side of Japan' after all!

  • @MrEvhel83

    @MrEvhel83

    4 ай бұрын

    agree, i dont like any of the colors

  • @Bugside
    @Bugside4 ай бұрын

    I just might swap my SP for the new base model, finally a decent face!

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    Just wait for the SP, the new styling in that colour scheme is gonna look mint! 🤟🏼

  • @stevendegoodmojosmet4034
    @stevendegoodmojosmet40344 ай бұрын

    The front looks like a Nuda . Cool .

  • @visordown

    @visordown

    4 ай бұрын

    It’s a better look than before!

  • @CHRIS_CREATIONS
    @CHRIS_CREATIONS4 ай бұрын

    Nice Bike, But quite Motorcycles are Horrible! Vents to make you hear the Motorcycle wow. Motorcycles are not Cars. We need some exhaust sound to let motorists know were there. 25+yrs of Riding and your all Brainwashed to think that a Moderate Loud Exhaust sound doesnt save some accidents and lives with oblvious Motorists not hearing you beside them.Especially European Motorists who need to Travel out of town as Europe is so congested like England there all about small cars and quite motorcycles righto.

  • @s11039858
    @s110398582 ай бұрын

    Don't buy this bike..it's frame is weak..videos and pictures on internet.

  • @zzzzzzzz9007
    @zzzzzzzz90073 ай бұрын

    Ruined :| Should have kept the supermoto style.

  • @mmgla4608
    @mmgla46083 ай бұрын

    I love the features but it's ugly as f... So ugly I might choose z900 over that.

  • @bloodrunneruk71

    @bloodrunneruk71

    Ай бұрын

    Don't do it the z900 close up looks a mess to much going on gaudy glitz

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