Y Religion Episode 73 - Living the Law of Consecration (Steven Harper)
How should we understand and live the law of consecration today? In this episode, Professor Steven Harper, a professor of Church history and doctrine, explains his research on the law of consecration. He articulates the revealed principles of the doctrine (rather than the “folk doctrine” surrounding it)-and helps listeners understand why the law of consecration is the ultimate expression of discipleship for Latter-day Saints.
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The Law of Consecration is much more about my Heart (rather than "stuff" or money)... its about giving my time, talents, and my whole heart and soul---to God. (And then God can use that offering in anyway He chooses). Its such a beautiful principle! ❤
This is a great discussion, so thoughtful, inciteful and hopeful. Thank you gentlemen and all your cool support staff, as well!
"Tithing is purely financial. Consecration is holistic."
I started trying to live the law of consecration by sorting out what to do for my family. Because I converted in my adolescence, my family didn't have many of the forms or attitudes typical of conscientious families in the Church,and I was widowed in my 30s, so what I do and suffer doesn't fit the ideal organization of families in our lesson books. Sometimes it baffles me, but I try to obtain personal revelation and apply it. I've had confusing hostilities and rejections, but also try curious blessings. It's clear the Lord, Heavenly Father, the Holy Ghost and the righteous hosts of Heaven have consecrated themselves and everything they've created to me and to all of us, and it's obviously a learn as you go process for us to consecrate ourselves, too, so it takes asking how to live this and other covenants and sorting out the experiences moving forward.
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I think it would be valuable to listen to the covenant in the temple dialog. We do not commit to obey but rather accept this law. This single word has left me pondering why this is different than the other covenants.
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I've thought much about this too, but find it interesting that the current General Handbook says that members covenant to "keep" the law of consecration in the endowment, suggesting that the brethren do indeed interpret it as a law to be kept now. (See 27.2)
In my studies I too have learned, like that young lady, that Consecration is not about the stuff. It essentially is to answer this question- “Do you love your fellow beings enough to be willing to change your lifestyle to help them have a better life?”. It is all about the person and helping each other not about the stuff. It is a core part of the opposite principle from the Master Mahan Principle Huigh Nibley talks about.
Long ago I was listening to Church history tapes when they were on cassette. The doctrine of the law of consecration was being discussed. They said that the saints that settled in Utah were practicing the law of consecration and failing. The example was someone would borrow a shovel a Tool. Typically what would happen would be that the barrower would end up in their natural carnal man state lacking integrity and not return the tool in the good condition that they had borrowed it in. If at all. The cassette tape also said that the Lord, so that would’ve been through Revelation, told the prophet to not practice law of consecration any longer. It is my belief that they were given the higher law to live that would bring them blessings, and as the sale portion of the book of Mormon the people just simply cannot live the law given by God and so the law is taken away from them, because otherwise they would be held accountable for knowing the law living in the community that should be living the law and NOT be living the law. I also think that it was in that location that I absorbed that during the millennium the law consecration will be part of our daily law For Covenant makers and keepers.
Are you saying it didn’t work in Orderville cause I thought They were amazing for several years I wish you’d discuss when it was practiced more fully
Did the law of tithing replace the law of consecration? Answer at 33:50
"When Brigham Young proposed it to the brethren at Winter Quarters, he could not move them; only one or two of the apostles would listen to him. The rest announced their intention to follow their own plans and get rich." Hugh Nibley "Approaching Zion" Page 469. What he did not discuss is why the brethren robbed the Bishops storehouse in their efforts to get rich and gave themselves waivers from paying tithing. Elder Bednar was right when he discussed us being the last wagon in this contemporary wagon train and boy are we dealing with a lot of messes made by the previous generations.