that xtreme defender has captured my attention!!!!

@LocsNLoadFirearmReviews

7 жыл бұрын

Bernie Smith because gelatin is the best way to test bullets and see somewhat realistic results. not conclusive but still informative

@user-td1zo3tv9p

5 жыл бұрын

@@LocsNLoadFirearmReviews, you have a BETTER idea and testing medium to suggest? Perhaps become a volunteer so we can all gain insightful knowledge? Yes?!?

@BlackSkyMusicTV

3 жыл бұрын

both are really good rounds.

@thesanctuary225

3 жыл бұрын

@@LocsNLoadFirearmReviews But Gelatin Test is missing one thing, Hard material, Gelatin is good for simulating penetration of soft tissues, but not good for hard one, such as bones.

@kieros01

3 жыл бұрын

@@thesanctuary225 Stick rib bones into the gel as its formed. then add t shirt or 2 in front of the gel as cloth to make it as realistic as possible

I have started using Underwood Extreme Defense in my carry guns. Every video I have seen with this bullet is impressive.

That spiral! I purchased a .380 for my wife and was worried a .380 would not have the stopping power, but now that I've seen this and a couple of other videos about the Lehigh ammo, I have no more regret.

as far as I'm concerned, Lehigh is leading the way in top shelf, innovative ammunition

Lehigh Defense makes some fantastic ammunition. When I needed the best possible task-specific specialty round for green/blue-water maritime defense use (alligators, other aquatic threats), Lehigh's very own Pete V. worked with me for several days in order to work over usage and threat scenarios. We ultimately concluded the Xtreme Penetrator would best suit my needs, and they have been in my Walther PPQ M2 Navy SD ever since. I will soon be picking up some of the XD ammo. In a world of "gimmick" energy-dump frangibles and tried-and-true hollow points of olde, Lehigh Defense stands out as a reputable class of its own.

Dude... I bought two boxes of extreme defender round because I thought they looked cool... what a beautiful gem I have found.

Great test! I have carried Federal HST 230 grain + P in my full frame Sig Sauer P 220 for years. 7 of us here in SLC, UT now carry the Underwood Extreme Defender 120 grain 45 caliber round. Five (including myself) have a full frame, and two carry a Compact 45 caliber pistol. It would be great to see a Paul Harrell type "meat test".

I have changed from JHP to Lehigh Extreme Defender in both my 9mm and my .380 Glocks. Great work, Lehigh!

@lehighdefensellc9886

6 жыл бұрын

Solid choices right there, thanks!

Love the demo at the end. Pretty telling. Thank you. I'll be getting some defenders.

These are the most impressive rounds I've ever seen 👏. Some will hate & call this a gimmick, what in the you know what is gimmick about this . A round that avoids hollow point hiccups and performs way better than any I've ever seen personally..😳😉

@nemo5335

9 ай бұрын

To be fair, there are A LOT of gimmicks in the gun world. I didn't trust these bullets until I saw data on how they perform in actual tissue. I always kind of assumed they were made to perform well in gel and wouldn't transfer over to real tissue. However, then I saw this: drive.google.com/file/d/1Z6gdk_JdqKkYlUHqABWwb8Bh8dK2rHqo/view In that test, they shoot pig carcasses and then had surgeons and forensic pathologists examine the body. The XD bullets consistently outperformed all hollow points. I don't think there's any doubt left, the only thing holding this ammo back is cost.

I've found that the .380 acp xtreme penetrator is excellent for carry in the wintertime, and the xtreme defender in 380 acp to be perfect for summertime in that caliber. It really makes .380 a reliable viable option as a defensive carry pistol. Easy to keep on target for follow up shots out of a pocket gun and very accurate as well up to 25yds. perfect for that type and caliber of pistol.

@BaritoneMonkey

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stu650Zuk wait, you used the 380 Xtreme penetrator on a black bear?? I know someone that carries Lehigh 380 in their LCP max. Is it actually that effective?

@BaritoneMonkey

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stu650Zuk Yikes... That could've gone very differently, very quickly. Glad nothing happened. I've heard 10mm is already a great in-the-woods caliber with standard ammo. Underwood's bullets in 10mm must be devastating.

2:18 that’s the prettiest wound channel I’ve ever seen.

Great designs Lehigh. Positive reviews everywhere. I'm surprised other companies don't sell a high end non-deforming copper/brass projectile. Maybe they will after losing some of the hollow point market.

I seen these flutes and had nightmares of my calculus classes 😂. These look pretty damn slick

I liked your "guess which bullet" ending. Nice.

I have been a fan since you began. The light weight defense bullet was a great idea, Not only works well but is flat shooting. Great bullet, Thanks

Your company makes some of the best projectiles and your channel needs more subscribers.

Mike's shots on the water melons were: XP, XD, XP, XD, XP XD. FYI, I am now carrying just XD in all 3 of my carry guns, and my home defense gun as well! AWESOME job Lehigh Defense!

I just ordered 4 boxes of the xtreme defender. Based on this video, I am very pleased that I did.

This is exactly what i needed for my hike in michigans U.P.

I love the Xtreme Defense bullet. The thing that will make me hesitate to engage a threat is the thought of also shooting whatever is behind the threat. I tell ALL my friends to use Xtreme Defense.

@lehighdefensellc9886

6 жыл бұрын

The penetration depths are listed in the ammo. We tweak the design to mitigate pass through energy on the XD.

@retiredfire2013

6 жыл бұрын

Just a thought if the threat is sideways you will want ever inch

@TrilobiteTerror

5 жыл бұрын

If you're afraid of hitting whatever is behind the threat then shouldn't you be much more afraid of the threat moving or something and you missing (which is a lot more likely than the bullet going all the way through the threat and harming some else)?

@chrisbrownaz

4 жыл бұрын

@@lehighdefensellc9886 I appreciate though despite the heat you've taken on the Xtreme Penetrator that you've stuck with a round that's great for defense against mountain lions and bears. The only 9mm I would ever trust in that role.

This video is 4 years old now, but these bullets are still #1 in my book, in my 10mm I carry Xtreme Penetrators and my 9mm uses Xtreme Defense. These bullets are hard to find where I live so you'll have to order them directly from Undewood over the internet. My opinion these bullets are the best.

“We will never stop innovating” exactly what I like to hear, keep up the good work Lehigh, love the Xtreme Penetrators in 357 Sig & 10mm 👍🏽👍🏽

@Billfish57

5 жыл бұрын

If you get the Extreme Defense in 65 grain, you'll see 2,100 fps with that 357 sig with way more energy and less recoil, perfect for self defense rounds. Made by Underwood.

Thanks for the explanation

@clayton9844

6 жыл бұрын

Graham Baates

Very interesting. I’ve seen these around the different channels but never really paid much attention. I might have to load some up.

The 10mm Variants are hands down the best wilderness rounds I've ever carried in my G20's. I'd like to see some heavier weight pills but MAN do they go through hyde and bone. Hard-Cast lead has nothing on the shaped solid-copper pills.

@lehighdefensellc9886

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your kind words, we work hard to TCO our customers needs. Team Lehigh

@BoopSnoot

5 жыл бұрын

@@lehighdefensellc9886 There's a lot of hoopla now about products with even trace amounts of lead, especially in California. Thoughts on lead-free copper bullets being a better option for a daily carry?

@traviswerner4151

5 жыл бұрын

I think you answered my question. How do they stand up against large game ?

@SeanJohnson-qm4pu

4 жыл бұрын

Everyone knows possums are pretty much invincible. I one shotted a chicken stealing possum with a 10mm extreme penetrator. It died instantly

@carll.freemanjr.9867

4 жыл бұрын

My .45 colt rifle begs to differ on those hard cast.

In a 9mm 17 round double stack magazine, my chamber round and the first two out of the mag are XD, or Ruger ARX polycase, followed by 15 rounds of 124 or 147 grain Federal HST hollow points, depending on the time of year...124 grain in mild weather, 147 in cooler weather. They don't plug up, collapse, or deform.

I have carried federal HST for years now but I think I’m gonna buy some of these and give them a go

I watched the 9mm ammunition tests and comparisons on the Military Arms Channel; I do like consistency, and after watching your Xtreme Defense 9mm +p provide consistent levels of penetration and performance while the other brands had (sometimes wild) variances, I kinda steered away from the Federal HST (even though in straight ballistic gel it performed well) and will be purchasing the Xtreme Defense for my 9mm and .45 GAP. The explanation behind the differences in the Xtreme Penetrator and the Xtreme Defense and why the bullet was designed the way it is was helpful.

@lehighdefensellc9886

6 жыл бұрын

Charles, thank you for your note. Yes, our objective was to build a bullet that would offer consistent penetration and wounding characteristics despite the FBI specified barrier placed in front of the bullets path. Thanks Again, and we appreciate your support.

I love your product. I use it for my 380's and 9MM. The melon shots were XP,XD,XP,XD,XP,XD.

@ytubepuppy

5 жыл бұрын

I agree on the melon sequence.

I think the Lehigh .312 caliber 75 grain Xtreme Defense bullet loaded in H&R Magnum cases would be an excellent 2" revolver load for those wanting less recoil than 38 +P. Would work in .327 Magnum revolvers (they're also .312 caliber) & a plus is they carry 6 rounds instead of 5. There's also a .312 caliber 95 grain Extreme Defense bullet.

I only hunt 4-legged beasts, so I gotta buy the Xtreme Penetrator. This makes video makes it very clear.

Nice explanation I've been wondering about these and how different they actually are, now I know. Melons were every other round starting XP, XD going to the end.

OK, as far as I understand the video, the bullet design of the XD works at least as effective as a standard hollow point without any of the no-expanding-problems. That's nice. But because of the design and the hardness of the copper I could imagine that that bullet performs also great after it had to penetrate barriers or bone (e.g. a hog's shoulder blade) because it most probably won't fragmentate or expand and therefore should have a great potential to go deeper and do damage (although it could start to tumble). By just shooting gelatine you might cover some great benefits of the projectile. How do both projectiles perform if they hit a solid animal skull in a critical angle? How much do they tend to deflect compared to standard hollow points? They are relatively light (which should be bad) but are very hard and have edges on the tip (which should be good).

@liljuan206

2 жыл бұрын

Buffman range or military arms channel (cant remember which) does a test shooting through two sets of pork shoulder, it crackers the bones and still gets 17 inch in the gel, which is the same depth it gets with no barriers

02 and 04 Phillips screw driver bit 😂😂

thank you for giving us leading edge ammo.

My G3C loves extreme defender, except when they perfectly jam when they occasionally try to jump out of the gun while loading. It is more of a mag spring issue, but I think the light weight of the round plays a part in this too.

2 жыл бұрын

let me guess, if UPS loses your package you rate the product 1 star. Buy a new magazine

@hicknopunk

2 жыл бұрын

@ lol, I have worked out the springs on 2 of the mags. Winchester USA Ready seems to be its favorite food. Look at my youtube channel, my banner is one of these jams. Oh and I don't rate a product on if it arrives. 🤣🤣😂 Those people are nuts. Oh that jam was hell, hell to undo. It can wedge them in so perfectly.

The Xtreme Defender 90 gr +P is my 1st choice for carry ammo in my Walther PPQ M2 9mm. I am getting the same gun in 45 ACP next week and can't wait to try these out in that beast. On a side note, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, start cranking these things out again. They are damn near impossible to find these days!

I had two different sasquatch run-ins 2 years apart where I forage for mushrooms, fiddleheads, and ramps, and I don't go out there without my 10mm anymore and it's loaded with Lehigh XP's.

Thank you for a very informative presentation.

I wish someone would do a video comparison between the Underwood Lehigh XD 90 grain standard pressure, and the +P and the +P+ rounds for this ammo. Also compare the +P+ XD against the XP.

@lehighdefensellc9886

6 жыл бұрын

Not a bad idea, I'll pass it along!

@ericeckert2812

6 жыл бұрын

and test the Underwood 9mm 64grain+p

@kamakazi74ghost97

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed

Seen some extensive testing on both these bullets. If you guys never compromise on quality and honesty you'll take over the ammo market for self-defense

I hope as more are produced in more quantity, prices can go down slightly. I completely understand the reasons for the price, but it is still too pricey to practice with. This seems to be the future of defense ammo: High barrier penetration, but rapid energy dump on soft targets.

Thanks for the great video. Clean with the information.

I think you have made a great product, I will be buying soon.

So, do you guys plan to release an Extreme defender in 38 special or 357 Magnum? As a revolver guy, I like absolute reliability so I am liking the design of these bullets, but my preferred caliber isn't available.I have seen the video from shootingthebull410 that shows the 380 extreme penetrator working out to be just about perfect for defensive 380s, but in 357 Magnum, I feel that the extreme penetrator is a liability and in 38 special, I have not seen any tests of it so I don't feel comfortable carrying it and I am too much of a cheapo to test it myself and even if the advertised penetration is correct (17inches is awesome btw) I would prefer the defender bullet for the larger wound tract.

@stevemannon4194

7 жыл бұрын

TheCelestialWolf midway has .357&38 special.

@Ultimarium

5 жыл бұрын

TheCelestialWolf hey man, they sell 357 ammo now with tests on youtube. I believe they are known as extreme hunter for 357 though

Those extreme penetrators look like an excellent woods choice for 4 legged threats!! Might just have to get some with deer season right around the corner!

I'm really starting to like the Underwood product line, I picked up a couple boxes of Xtreme Penetrators for my 10mm and I'm going to order me some Defenders for my personal carry 9mm

Awesome vid! Cant wait to get some for my 10mm

Can you load these 9mm bullets into a 357 Magnum? Yes I know .355 in .357 carrel and slight loss of accuracy but are these particular bullets safe to do so, particularly the penetrator?

Awesome video

Do you make both in .380? What would you recommend for EDC Glock 42?

Thank you for the excellent product. :)

I'm sold! I bought two boxes for my carry 1911, and am getting several more boxes for my home 1911. TY!

@lehighdefensellc9886

6 жыл бұрын

Awesome Sling Blade I hope they run well for you and that you are never forced to use them.

Very interested in getting the XP for my 380 pocket gun. This stuff is not available in any stores in my area however.

I just got a .350 Legend, and there isn't much factory hunting ammo selection. I'm considering hand loading the 115 grain Xtreme Penetrator for it as a hunting round. It isn't designed for the .350 Legend, but it will fit, however is that advised?

Just got ahold of some 9mm XD ammo. Thanks for the info. GoodStuff👍

I have the Xtreme Defender 90gr for XD-9 Tactical Mod.2, my question is nowhere on the box or case can I find +P or +P+ so are they standard loads or the +?

I've been waiting almost a year to buy the 90gr.. finally found it in stock from underwood!!!! Score!

Well time to swtich my carry rounds to Lehigh, love that performance from the XD round. Should go well in my M&P2.0 10mm.

Great video 🙌🏻

great info

@therealandrewcano

2 жыл бұрын

Hey you're that guy👆🏻 *_your're that guy pal_*

What about reliability? With the flutes and ridges it seem the bullet would feed at slightly different angle with each shot.

I have just started purchasing Xtreme Defender rounds in all of my handguns. I have always used and trained with Federal Premium HST and Hydrashok rounds, Speer Gold Dot rounds and Hornady Critical Duty rounds. The department that I work for uses the HST rounds. Another department that I volunteer for uses the Gold Dot rounds. And then another neighboring department uses the Critical Duty rounds. I keep in stock and train with all 3 brands of ammo and in every caliber of firearm that I own. I then discovered the Xtreme Defender rounds and began researching them and found ballistics tests done by multiple agencies consisting of multiple calibers, firearms and test mediums that had everything from no barrier penetration, to several different barriers tested that had to be penetrated first. The Xtreme Defender rounds were the only bullet that scored perfectly in every caliber, every barrel length, every pressure, every test medium shot into and even when every type of barrier had to be penetrated first. I then began testing the ammo myself. My test results also showed the same thing. So now I am going to be buying as much of this ammo as I can, and as often as I can.

@jessd956

4 жыл бұрын

Thank for that info!

I've had some feeding problems in several calibers. I no longer use them. SEMPER PARATUS ASM USCG Air

My primary CCW is a Witness 10MM and one in every 3 rds is one of your 115 grain loads from Underwood. There are many situations where more penetration is required such as a bad guy wearing kevlar, or an attacker using cover

@Eaglezero6205

6 жыл бұрын

Be careful because I'm pretty sure Concealed Carry forbids armor piercing. As far as I know they are not supposed to be armor piercing but if they are and you are carrying that at least in my state you may want to look back at your book for your state but the law in mine says no armor piercing. Ive seen a video where it has gone damn near all the way through Level II armor. Ive posed the question to the channel hopefully they respond soon. It can get you in big trouble in my state not sure about yours. Don't know about you but Id hate to go to prison over choosing the wrong ammo for self defense Conceal carry.

@spookypunky

6 жыл бұрын

Ya, that happens a lot.....

@jamesharman7611

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/q2qtqKqBdqu2nNI.html

Do you have a video like this for your 380 acp.

How would Xtreme Defense behave from the shorter 9mm barrel, such as Glock 43?

1, 3, 5 extreme penetrator. 2, 4, 6 extreme defender. Great ammo, Thanks.

Given the novel bullet shape, there would seem to be a potential for feeding issues in some .380 pistols. Do you have a list of .380 pistols that this round has been testfired in succesfully? Very interested. I have a Ruger LCP2 and a Remington RM380

@brianbuchert1521

7 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Weathers ,hi I've used this in my bodygaurd 38o,and feeds great

That was an awesome explanation, he kept it simple and clean explained well

You should make .22 lr and .22 mag extreme penetrators and defenders

@emanstorm2481

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting thought, but I wonder how effective such diminutive ''flutes'' would prove to be. Perhaps they've already tested it and found it poorly performing.

The extreme penetrators are great for getting through solid stuff. I will be getting my hands on it when I can

Just out of curiosity.... why is your version of the extreme penetrator in 45 super so downloaded? The ones I have are 200gr @1100fps=537ft/lbs..... while you have several HP and hardcast loads between 180gr-255gr which average nearly 700ft/lbs? Love your ammo btw.... just wish the extreme penetrator had some more velocity

I think where this ammo really shines is in .380. A normally underpowered round that is greatly improved enough to be a carry weapon. Xtreme Defenders are all that I carry in my LCP. Dew to the expense of this ammunition I don't carry it in larger calibers

is there a video showing this ammo with a 3 inch barrel gun?

Is the GEN4 GLOCK G27 A safe pistol to use with this plus ammo

for the 44 special models... which would have less recoil? defender or penetrator?

That's a great explanation and demo - thanks for posting it. Just one suggestion ... Bro, get a holster!

@HAVANA1955

4 жыл бұрын

that is right he needs a holster ...!

Great round...if you can find it. It's the perfect upgrade for 380s but I can't find it in stock anywhere.

Updating my shopping cart to include both!

I know it's not recommended to hunt with a 9mm, but which one would be a better choice in a carbine for deer hunting?

Great bullets! Magnificent performance in almost all the various pistol cartridges. But there's just one single flaw. The .32ACP with the LeHigh bullets has loading problems. But not because of your manufacture! The problem is the design of the original cartridge. It is a "semi-rimmed" cartridge. Meaning? The length of the cartridge is vitally important. This will not load or be counted on in defense situations. The loaded LeHigh cartridge is too short for the magazine, ans the original cartridge's dimensions. This lends the cartridge the ability to protrude forward of the following cartridges "semi-rim," causing a non-loading situation. As an old advocate of the 7.65MM/.32ACP; there needs to be a correction to the final manufacturing dimensions.

@The_Chad_Davis

Жыл бұрын

Who the hell carries a .32?? 😂 Step into the 21st century, much better performing calibers.

I'm not too concerned with over penetration but I am impressed by the speed and wound channel of the XD's. And that's probably true with all calibers of the XD's.

What are the results out of a 3 inch barrel like my LC9

I think we have to keep in mind these are lighter weight all copper bullets compared to traditional lead, they might be similar to the Barnes DPX and TSX all copper bullets. These have no lead so there will be no fragmentation as lead is more brittle and fragile than copper and copper retains it's weight better. Plus, no lead in the meat if you plan on eating what you kill for hunting. I'm more curious as how do the Lehigh Xtreme Defense compares to the Hornady XTP and Hornady SST in terms of expansion and internal damage. I'd like to see Lehigh make a Xtreme Penetrator for the S&W 500 for defense against Brown bear/Grizzly. That bullet might be able to get 70" inches of penetration.

I'd like to see how those bullet design works when applied to rifle calibers... How about the 308? Or perhaps the old 30/30 just for kicks?

@jacko4483

3 жыл бұрын

Sure wish they'd make a XP for the 22-250. Those prairie dogs get real nasty like when they're wounded!!

I believe I read that some of the steeper feed ramp weapons had trouble feeding the Penetrator. Has the Defender design corrected that?

@garyp53161

4 жыл бұрын

I use both and yes the nose on the defender is thinner so doesn’t bind on the short ramps

@nelsonjackson5718

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't noticed a cycle issue with my XDM-E

@BAKEDnotTOASTD

3 жыл бұрын

No issues in my shield 9

@robertgoodrich8953

3 жыл бұрын

No issues on my Glock 19, Kimber 1911, or my FNX45. Shoots well in revolver calibers, also. The Controlled Chaos rifle rounds are awesome, too! I run Underwood or Lehigh in all my rifles as well!

Way ahead of the competition.

Awesome video!!! 👍🏻

I have a few boxes of the Xtreme defender in 9mm, nice shooting rounds

In a short barrel kimber micro 9 mm ( and also the kimber 380 ) which Lehigh defense load would I use for personal protection ? Thank you

@michaelhowell8489

3 жыл бұрын

Neither. I've experienced too many jams with them in too many pistols.

Love the ammo Mike!

Great rounds!

I think I’ll be replacing my hollows with XDs. I’m loving this type of round.

Looks like Peach Lane in PA?Grew up less than 1/4 from there.

The XD Feeds great in my Glock 26 9mm

Nice info..pretty sweet.

Ive seen a couple videos on these now and was looking into the Xtreme Defender but I'm holding back because I'm considering it for Conceal Carry. Well in my State Conceal Carry laws say you can not have Armor Piercing. Up until I saw a video showing it would penetrate a Bullet Proof vest of Level II Armor. This is concerning since the ammo if Ive read correctly, wasn't meant to be armor piercing,so I must ask you. Is this ammo Armor piercing and against the law for carry use in states that forbid armor piercing. (I'm pretty sure they all do but know for a fact in my state it is forbidden) I ran some google searches to find an answer but never did. Can you answer this one please?

@charlesp9681

6 жыл бұрын

I believe I saw the same video you did concerning the penetration of Level IIa body armor ( on the MAC). That was using the 90 gr 9mm Xtreme Defender +p+ ammunition. The video stated the +p design would NOT penetrate after several tests, so make sure you get the 90 gr 9mm Xtreme Defender +p, NOT the +p+ and you should be fine.

Will the defenders over penetrate when shot form an 8” barrel out of a Ar-9 pistol?