Flying a fleet with an unwanted admiral into an unwinnable battle is simplified version of what the emporor did to Duke Leto in the Dune

@CountArtha

2 жыл бұрын

“Uriah Gambit”

@Elyseon

2 жыл бұрын

That didn't work too well for the emperor though.

@mygaffer

2 жыл бұрын

@@Elyseon it worked fine in the short term

@imperator8125

2 жыл бұрын

@@CountArtha lol

@Kalidoscope1230

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a good way to handle succession if you ask me.

Making a Federation with yourself is just the sort of thing I have come to expect from this perfectly balanced game lol

@burntpotatoes999

2 жыл бұрын

i remember Montu doing this to abuse trade federations too which was really funny

@HappySack

2 жыл бұрын

Bro, people have been doing this ever since Federations was released because Trade Federations are oh so good.

@yt-lemro3237

2 жыл бұрын

In think it is RP

@MChannel80

2 жыл бұрын

@@burntpotatoes999 I always do this with trade federations, especially in multiplayer

@blecao

2 жыл бұрын

@@yt-lemro3237 I consider this the real way to pla a feudal space empire, you create vassals instead of controling the territory

Xenophiles - Making friends...that are never allowed to leave

@Snoogen11

2 жыл бұрын

We're gonna be best friends... forever and ever...

@alexkatc59

2 жыл бұрын

Typical TAU empire.

@TheAnalyticalEngine

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexkatc59 It's for the Greater Good(TM)

@philippesom5066

2 жыл бұрын

My federation name is Hotel California

@indrickboreale7381

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexkatc59 Greater Good, but only if we have Hammerheads in your perimeter

xenophile is for making friends? i thought it is only for making more trade or getting more diplo weight. Thank you Montu for another tip!

@iona2225

2 жыл бұрын

Mercantile/Diplo Tradition UNE: *STONKS AND FRENS*

@necfreon6259

2 жыл бұрын

The best way to destroy your enemies is to make them your friends if only LEGO Ninjago taught that earlier

@maxn7279

Жыл бұрын

I wonder Is hegemony a good origin for this build?

@michaeledmunds7056

Жыл бұрын

@@maxn7279 probably

@Infidi

Жыл бұрын

there are friends in this game? Main processor does not compute, proceeding with extermination protocols

That is some Machevellian meta right there. Chef's kiss.

I did a xenophile feudal empire and declared the first galactic Imperium 97 years into the game simply by making half the galaxy my vassals with restricted voting. No conquering required, I just made them like me and gave good terms for a bit before switching to restricted voting and defensive overlord wars for collective defense. With half the galaxy forced to abstain I could easily trade favors to win the votes to make myself custodian. At that point it was easy to simply strip away my term limit and proclaim the imperium before making the armada. Great Khan rose and the Imperial Armada jumped across the galaxy using a stage 1 quantum catapult to go kick his ass. Feudal society is broken right now and I'm loving it.

@cullenpinney2997

2 жыл бұрын

Really fun to wage war and watch all your vassals rush your enemy with you

@lacrossehilda

Жыл бұрын

How do you manage to vassalize other empire if they are already in a federation? Just curious, i snowballed vassalizing but I couldn't finish it quick because of other federation.

@snarst

Жыл бұрын

@@lacrossehilda You can't.

@CMAzeriah

Жыл бұрын

Aaaaand here comes the nerf gun...

Starts with a clip from Norsemen? That's a like even before getting prompted in the video! Love it.

@HS-lv6wc

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for stating the movie!

@7Rendar

2 жыл бұрын

@@HS-lv6wc It's an Norwegian TV show. I believe it's on Netflix. Good comedy.

If you spawn a galaxy with max empires this is a easy way to get the achievement for having 10 migration treaties as a xenophile. Also it would be cool at some point to see achievement guides.

I’d like to see a short video of your settings when you construct a galaxy at the game start. Do you max out Fallen Empires, Marauders, and Primitive Planets? Which galaxy size and shape do you prefer? Do you play with Advanced Empires, Scaling Difficulty, and what crisis strength?

@aliensinnoh1

2 жыл бұрын

Same!

@Jo-Heike

2 жыл бұрын

Watch the start of his long hour+ videos, he usually goes over his settings at the start of those. Generally it's very close to default, with the main deviation being 0.75 tech/tradition speed, and the pop growth being altered a bit (to balance machine and biological empires in multiplayer).

i did something very similar to this as my most recent campaign except with a void dwellers megacorp. the only problem was the absurd amounts of empire size from colonies. still it was very fun.

Gish will be much better when it Joins the Terran Empire.

@MontuPlays

2 жыл бұрын

A safe galaxy is a human galaxy!

@DzinkyDzink

2 жыл бұрын

@@MontuPlays Glad we beat some sense into you, Lizard!

@trixie2558

2 жыл бұрын

Xenophobes when I have 172 species and 1900 pops (I am going to win by crashing their game)

@miles1034

2 жыл бұрын

@@trixie2558 but why do you hate yourself? 1 day per minute gameplay

@maxn7279

Жыл бұрын

@@MontuPlays I wonder Is hegemony a good origin for this build?

I remember one of my games where I basically pushed my economy to spam out ships, so then I could vassalize another empire that I was friendly with... then I integrated them and basically doubled in size and resources. With that I was able to slowly start snowballing vassalizing other empires, then integrate them, and destroying those that I couldn't.

I tried something like this once, the three other large empires in the galaxy all made a federation together against me. Its pretty fun, all out war 24/7

Thanks! And please - more content like this! Your work of discovering specific advantageous combinations of civics, traits and government types, origins, etc., and presenting them as playable empires, really helps me improve my gameplay. I enjoyed trying out your approach - except my Delphinidae species is charismatic - you know because they're dolphins and keep humans as a subordinate species; a veritable Planet of the Dolphins!

I’m excited to give this build a go, thanks Montu!!!

Love to seeing your videos as always Montu good work

people laughed at fuedal society at one point well whos laughing now honestly one of my favorite civics right now

I can't imagine how deadly the wildlife would be in Space Australia

@thorin1045

Жыл бұрын

how deadly would it be? so deadly, that rabbits and small dogs could turn into ecological disasters as the local pathetic level animals fail against them?

A variant of this is to enlighten primitives you automatically spawn as a Necrophage, though noticeably slower

i found out you can do similar thi g with clone army just spam corvets and everyone just submits or is just destroyed even on advanced start ai

Epic. Was doing something similar but didn't know Hegemony was so op.

Can I say that I love the funny memes at the start of each episode? They're all just fantastic.

Xenophile Authoritarians has been one of my favorite memestrats for entire patch cycles, great to see it at the top of the pecking order.

Did you ever talk about your thoughts on the "best settings" for the game ? (Star systems number, AI empire number etc...) And if not, what are they in your opinion ?

@kingjamestres

2 жыл бұрын

If we're talking performance I've been playing around with the settings for a while now and I honestly can say I can barely notice a difference no matter what I do.

@Tomnessish

2 жыл бұрын

I like playing what’s I call “thunder dome” settings. 2x tech, 0.25 planets, 0 guaranteed habitable, 0.75 hyperlanes, 1.5x primitives, 2-5x crisis (depends on how good you think you are), normal mid and late game. It forces a huge amount of conflict and just makes things overall more interesting, to me

@alekzanderor5489

2 жыл бұрын

You probably should clarify whether you interested in multiplayer or singleplayer settings.

@Jo-Heike

2 жыл бұрын

Watch the start of his long hour+ videos, he usually goes over his settings at the start of those. Generally it's very close to default, with the main deviation being 0.75 tech/tradition speed, and the pop growth being altered a bit (to balance machine and biological empires in multiplayer).

@damonedrington3453

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tomnessish I tried this and omg it’s so fun so far already. The few uninhabited habitable worlds instantly become the single most important “resource” in the game due to the stellar culture shock modifier from conquering primitive making fresh planets significantly stronger. Feels closer to what it would really be like

Wow, this was the build I've been fine tuning for the past few weeks, whilst similar in play style, you play it a lot better xD. I didn't notice that hegemony "exploit" though.

You can also do this using the corporate version of these traits and / or using the hegemony origin depending on how you want things to play out.

Literal been doing a play through because of your 5 hour stream today and took a break only to find this. XD. My necrophage empire been doing a unity rush with feudal empire and man it is so much fun XD

Montu’s “friend” remarks make me laugh every time.

Seems like a very fun meta build! Thanks for the idea. Looking forward to seeing how broken I can make it.

you could also pull this off with megacorp(franchising) it was quite fun to spam branch offices

@neillindgren8992

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. Managed to make everyone in the galaxy my subsidiaries with a military oriented xenophile megacorp (while founding 4 mercenary companies to be my military - I had pretty much no navy, but maybe 30k fleet power of mercenary ships (with cruisers just being recently introduced). Piling hegemony on top of that would have been almost identical to the feudal xenophile build here. 👍

Just pop on your videos at work, and listen to that soothing voice all day long.

@MontuPlays

2 жыл бұрын

I hope it doesn't put you to sleep 😅

@tinobeltran6964

2 жыл бұрын

And if I dream, I dream of planet cracking and bubbles.

For people doing federations post overlord for trade, or research, you can actually use a split off sector vassal you make match your decisions to form a federation with someone else, and then boot that rando out. It lets you effectively have a 1 nation federation, all to yourself.

Really cool seeing Norsemen being used in the opening for the video, an amazing parody of the Vikings series. So, first watch some Montu, then check out Norsemen.

Thanks for the video. I see you went with the Star League method of galactic dominance.

Lol i literally just made a really similar empire on my own and wanted to check if feudal society is any good, i guess this answers my question

Feudal society has always been my favorite, so glad it got reworked

I typically went with a void dweller trade megacorp - getting commercial pacts with huge numbers of allies is really really good. This also means that all of your vassals come with basic resource pulls from the getgo!

I’ve gotta say this was the most fun I’ve had with Stellaris in a while.

God damnit, I literally just made my aquatic Xenophile fuedal state today and then Montu goes and does the same thing.

I know I’m late but I just wanna say I tried this recently and by year 60 I had a dyson sphere worth of energy income and didn’t even go to war once. Insanely powerful build

In my current game I have vassalized the whole Galaxy through sheer fleet power and asking nicely, except the one fanatic purifiers. And im in the current process of being voted custodian and its funny because they cant vote against me but they can abstain in the vote. So I imagine my empire envoy in the senate room asking everyone if they want to vote, and everyone just standing there rolling their eyes and scoffing.

New montu video hell yeah

I did something close but I was a megacorp for the massive branch office spam and I used the specialized vassal types because the resources and research become insane as you snowball and they level I up. Also I used many ministry of truths because I needed influence.

I have been preeching this build with the hedgemony origin since launch day of overlord, its so fun

Federation/vassal trap is like you sign contract without reading small text in it.

This whole video could be described as: "read the fine print" XD

I love xenophile builds it's nice to see one

awesome video ... and i liked your ship builds (helped me alot) ... but how your fleet is build up .. or how many ships of one kind do you have in one fleet ... that the thing im still struggle with

From testing this strategy, there's a couple of practical notes one should add when using this Feudal playstyle when playing Grand Admiral AI (no scaling). -In the beginning, I advise to focus on alloys and not to pay much attention to tech. The AI gets quite a boost to fleets early-on, so I sometimes had to have almost double the fleetof what Montu had in this video at a similar year to not be underpowered to get the subjugation approved. That might also be because I play on tech x1 instead of x0.5, though. It can thouroughly affect the gameplan. Once that is achieved though, you can switch to focusing on tech to keep up, as you'll likely to be able to maintain sufficient firepower after. -Be careful with technology and advanced resource-taxes. Once you out-tech them too much, a vassal becomes a protectorate and loses all of those taxes in their agreement. You can't get anything but basic resources from such vassals in agreements after, until their tech level catches on, something they in my experience didn't seem to be able to once you get the ball rolling even if you gave them a research agreement. -Don't combine this with Void Dweller origin. Feudal workings and building new habitats compete for influence otherwise, and your expansion will be hindered too much to pull this off effectively.

God, this strat really is 'Congratulations, you're being rescued, please do not resist.'

That Hegemony/Vassal trap is really powerful, almost too much, do you think it will be qualified as an exploit ? Anyway, great video as always !

@Berek71182

2 жыл бұрын

IMO it's an exploit, using the game-mechanics for overcoming the A.I. in such an atrocius way. I bet The DEVs got no other choice to implament a RND element in terms of A.I Diplomacy, just like in the good old RPG days when there is always a chance diplomacy may fail and players recive a negativ modifier for the next try whenever failing. (The negativ modifier will disapper over time for another try)

@Staarfury

2 жыл бұрын

It is an exploit, just like the +5 diplo acceptance trades were. I'm not sure it'll be fixed in 3.4.4 though.

@pieterfaes6263

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's probably an exploit, perhaps a check whether they would face restrictions like that could be implemented, given they have enough intel to know, to change the weights on the negotiating board.

@Brambazai

2 жыл бұрын

Ever heard of NATO?

@necfreon6259

2 жыл бұрын

What’s bullshit is that’s totally legit making it literally impossible to fix without breaking the system

7:47 Ahh yes space Australia. Particularly space Brisbon. Go space Bronco's!

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but this feels very much like a tall, or at least taller, build. Since influence is so key to get subjects, you don't necessarily want to be stretching your borders out too far - you wanna grab your habitable colonies, grab the cheese colony to make your federation, then you've got most of your science ships away looking for frens, and got maybe 1-2 science ships surveying

I've tried this and they've fixed this now. Distance from your territory brings a massive penality when trying to vassalize basically making it impossible...

Norseman is such an under rated show. So Amazing. Just like Lillehammer. (Most of the same actors.)

Lol, I just finished a game as United Nations of Earth (single-player) where literally every other empire in the galaxy was someone I had diplomatically vassalized. I fought one war early on and that was it. I didn't bother messing up my economy by going Emperor, though, since I was fanatic egalitarian.

This whole meta build i actually figured out randomly while playing a random game lately It's absolutely bonkers, and it didn't take long before I kicked my "friends" from my fed as they were trying to expell my own subjects

Hey Montu, going forward with this build, would you say becoming thw Galactic Emperor to be the best choice? You lose the Hegemony, and you could youst stay the permanent Custodian anyway.

I made a build very similar, but instead of Xenophile I went with mild Xenophobe ethic and Pompous Purists civic. Extra envoys and trust growth seemed like a net positive to me. What do you think?

Just did this run to test out the new rework and vassal types lmao. Vassalized the galaxy within 100 years and it was one of the most fun games Ive had in a long time

Would like to see a playthrough against an early crisis with this build. Unify the galaxy then defend it.

It's absurd how easy this strat is.

Solid guide into "how to use and abuse vaselization"

It is because we love the xeno that we must rule them. How could they survive without our protection?

Montu Dolphin: I am diplomacy.

Hi Montu, quick question on this vid -- you mention going domination second if you were authoritarian but it seems like you would need still diplomacy to make a Federation right? I just tried this tactic (v 3.7.4) and it wouldn't let me make a federation, even a hegemony, without also having diplo. So it seems like it would take 3 filled-out traditions before you can make this work, whether you have authoritarian or not. Am I wrong?

Lawers, the evil of the civilised world. The whole galaxy united just because of the loophole. Amazing.

That opening was a masterpiece. Where is that "protection money" clip from?

How do you get past the distance acceptance debuff? I can never propose subjugation because of this even when they're quite close.

Im going for rogue machine and buliding vassels with primatives where possible then shared destiny but ill let you know how it goes but i will make sure only i make my oen basic resources

I don't think you mentioned the origin, I see is prosperous unification but will any origin work with this strategy ? I typically do the techno organic start which idk if it's part of the vanilla game or a mod

I've been experiencing this naturally, you just get to vassalize more or less any AI and they're OK with it

@koshi6505

2 жыл бұрын

It's also not cheesy because the AI does the same thing.

The Xenophilic MegaCorp after vassalizing the entire galaxy before I’ve researched cruisers:

From where is that sequence in the beginning?

When I try this, the subject contract only shows tributary in top right corner and won't let me change diplomatic freedom. Does anyone know why?

Finally, the Blorg can have all the friends they want, by force!

I loved playing as a plantoid with tree of life because the tree of life holding gives a full chonky +1 loyalty per month and it's awesome

I stumbled into this playstyle during a single player game when (as a hive mind) I was invited to a hegemony federation and immediately took it over because my fleet size and political power was ridiculous at the time. In almost no time at all the entire galaxy was in my federation and I was essentially only competing with the crises at that point. (it was still early/mid game). Never thought about making this happen from the start but it looks like a lot of fun.

Amazing !

There was definitely a sopranos or Goodfellas scene for the into

I remember i essentially accomplished this when I was playing as fanatic xenophile federation builders and i opened the l cluster and got gray at about year 40. Within 6 years I went from a proud, pacifist equal partner in the tiny Friendship Butterfly Federation of Peace and Love to the fanatic militarist xenophile leader of the Eternal Hegemon of Love and Stability controlling the whole galaxy

Recently I have this idea of playing a scenario where Earth, other that create its own sphere of colonies and basically a core empire, have spawn also few rogue colonies that in time evolved into various new empires inspired by old ones. Kinda a new byzantine empire, a new republic of venice, new ottomans etc... In a sort of late medieval scenario. I have to play something like that. 🤔

All hail the SPACE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE!

With Pacifism you can make the space fauna friendly to you which may help you in finding other empires

"I am altering the deal, pray I don't alter it further".

Two questions: 1. How does this affect your diplomatic wieght? 2. Is it crucial that you start this process early on or can you wait a bit?

This sounds like a lot of fun and I'd like to try this. Coming to it late though. Has this approach been nerfed at all in 3.9? Thanks for the great content!

Hi, maybe wrong place to ask but you seem really really knowledgeable. When I play i find that on my tech it seems to keep coming up with repeatables and I know I've not reached the end of the tech tree. Any advice why this is happening or how to get round it ? I have tried different scientists etc with no luck :-(

I kind of did this accidentally on my first run with the new DLC it was bonkers how overpowered I became

Any advice on how to get around reluctance due to distance. It seems to be a real bottleneck when I try this.

Could you comment on the choice of Feudal Society over Shared Destiny? Usually I'd consider a civic to be a much greater opportunity cost than a perk slot.

@onchristieroad

2 жыл бұрын

I personally think the +1 loyalty is better than two envoys.

so basically 'read the damn fineprint' the space sim

Would the Hegemon Origin make this strategy even faster?

I used a mixed psionic rush and this build and ended up as galactic emperor by year 2290 and currently have more score than both fallen empires combined

I think with void dweller you could do some crazy stuff with making a billion one system scholariums

What clip was the opening from. I feel like I've seen it before but can't remember what it is from

This wont work anymore in 3.5 would it? The empires will have the "Overlord" modifier, thus you cannot gain empires and vassals that have been vassalized/overlorded already, right? Or am I missing things?

@rylanlunnon9640

Жыл бұрын

Yes, not only that as well, I tried to make it work but even empires who are equal will not want to be subjugated anymore. If they are superior to you in any way it's hopeless. So Admiral and above this strategy won't work.

You are naming all these vassals a "friend of Rome" basically.

would this work with the imperial fiefdom origin? I feel like it could still work pretty great considering the people you start off with already have quite a positive opinion of you, with the xenophile trait only enhancing this,

Love the build. Gotta ask though. Where is that scene from at the start?

@MontuPlays

2 жыл бұрын

Norsemen, a great scandic comedy on netflix