I’d like to sincerely apologize to Rex for making fun of him in high school.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

He could so beat your ass now 😂 just waiting for him to wield the 3rd sword now tho

@sirsams552

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak you know where he wields it 😏

@minimik75

Жыл бұрын

@@sirsams552 oh no

@rhettmitchell

Жыл бұрын

@@sirsams552oh yes 😈

@SivalinPuthery

Жыл бұрын

There is an apology form to Rex running loose on the internet now. Sign it and repent, Oh Ye Chad doubters

Alvis is actually from the future and he used origin to time travel to the past to prevent Lanz from ever wanting something meatier as it would bring about the distruction of the universe. Source: I have probably passed someone who works for nintendo before

@charlesshaw2464

Жыл бұрын

That’s a rare doo da right there

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

TIME TRAVEL!

@rhettmitchell

Жыл бұрын

“Is this a… rare thing?”

@themiddlecaterpillar8350

Жыл бұрын

True and real, can confirm

@iceolate4815

Жыл бұрын

Alvis must’ve used his thinking muscles for that one.

Reminder Rex was around 15 and came from a very wholesome and welcoming easy going positive hometown. As he grew and met new people with different ideals he was changed and from then to how old he seems to be now (mid 20s to early 30s) his outlook could have changed even more as he matured physically and mentally. So saying heartless machine to Alvis isn't out there. Him knowing thanks to the architect that the aegis ARE information processing units

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I don't dispute that Rex would have the relevant knowledge to make this comment and I'm sure he has changed since we saw him last but even so, knowing the context of the world and again, being incredibly empathetic to an Aegis that was trying to destroy everything. I don't know, I'm just not sure what I'll think of Rex if this is the direction his character is heading

@faintduch6630

Жыл бұрын

​​@@JBspherefreak I think, if the audio isn't different, maybe he knows this ISN'T the person or entity who is truly behind the body of Alvis? I mean we don't see Alvis' face, we see the area where his face is with his eyes and other features but not clearly, it's all shadowed over by the light erupting behind him. Maybe this is something similar to the false, robo queens? I dunno, I still think Rex wouldn't say something like that normally but maybe as he got older in the new world he had less and less threats against him and his loved ones that could be talked to or even seen as people? Maybe it's a byproduct of him simply needing to be stronger as Pyra and Mythra lost their godlike power as a byproduct of them wanting to be able to die with someone they love? Maybe Adam was just a dick sometimes and it's just genetic, I dunno, it's all speculation but I'm sure there's something going on that'll explain it

@mistressminerva3382

Жыл бұрын

@@faintduch6630 It is not confirmed that Rex is in any way shape or form a genetic descendant of Addam. That said , i see it as entirely possible that Rex says that , if Alvis just killed Pyra / Mythra and their children. Or did any other horrible act on that level. Rex has more people to lose now. So i wouldnt rule it out.

if i dont get to play as shulk and rex im gonna cry

@Xenokhaos

Жыл бұрын

Fr, I just need to dual wield Pyra and Mythra's swords before I die

I want Alvis to say "I am Ontos" in some way so much. When Definitive Edition came out I was hoping a line like that would be added in just to expand the lore between the first two games a bit more.

@ShadowSkyX

Жыл бұрын

The aegis core crystal was all anyone needed for confirmation that he is. The color is also opposite to mythra and malos' cores too.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

If we get that line, we're defo getting "This was really the Xenoblade Chronicles"

Shulk and Rex grew into Gigachads (especially Rex).

Fei fondham was the xenoblade stand user we all needed

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

The absolute truth

@lukedelameter7961

Жыл бұрын

“So it’s the same type of stand as Weltal?”

@mistressminerva3382

Жыл бұрын

Did you just have to make a Jo-Jo reference now ?

And to be fair that Alvis the most Machine out of the Aegises lacking in emotions unlike Malos Pyra & Mythra who are more human compared to Alvis being more AI then human

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Even so, Alvis still did have some humanity and it still applies to the other two Aegises

@natchu96

Жыл бұрын

I'd...honestly disagree with him having all that much humanity. Everything he did in Xenoblade 1 was in service of the conclusion that Zanza was becoming a liability to the created world, and even then he never disobeyed a direct command once, only resorting to workarounds that his creator/user wouldn't notice. He's willingly allowed for the sacrifice of countless people over the eons by inaction. Even after successfully replacing his active user he seemed like he would be fine with whatever Shulk wanted to do, he only chucked out some ideas because he was pressed for time. He basically manipulated Shulk starting from the first dream in the cave and shows no remorse for anything he's done and not done throughout Bionis' history, all while having lied to the high-entia for eons. Since Shulk has renounced control over him Alvis doesn't actually have much of a cause to do anything constructive these days. Hell, assuming what they're angry at him for relates to the main story of Xenoblade 3 in some way, moebius is actually fully in accordance to the will of the people.

I STRONGLY believe this is Alvis and he's not being controlled. It's VERY lengthy, but let me explain, as I legitimately think it is the best explanation for this DLC: It was established in XB2 that the personalities of the Aegises are influenced by the personality of their driver when they are first resonated. Malos' entire character struggle revolves around this due to his impulses caused by Amalthus. To this day, we STILL don't know who resonated with Alvis to awaken him. It would be incredibly weird if he just randomly managed to wake himself up without ever needing a driver given the rules established by Klaus. I believe Klaus is Alvis' driver, and Alvis is the first Aegis. Klaus attempted to resonate with Alvis as a test run, which in turn caused the space-time transition event. Think about it. Klaus and Zanza are the same person, but because Zanza and Klaus exist as separate entities interlinked between two dimensions, who is technically Alvis' driver? I believe the space-time transition event was a malfunction in the system because the rules were technically broken here. Alvis has the personality he does because he was resonated with Klaus prior to Rex's existence, meaning, that Klaus still had a pessimistic view of the world. Before Rex, Klaus believed that if the world were destroyed a second time, "it was fated to happen. It cannot but happen." So why is Alvis so much stronger than Mythra and Malos then? Klaus, being Alvis' driver, has direct control of the Conduit. Alvis is more attuned to the Conduit's power, meaning that he likely still had strong resonance with the remnants of the Conduit's power as it was fading away when the XB1 and 2 worlds began to merge. ALSO... NONE of this discredits or retcons Alvis granting Shulk his wish at the end of Xenoblade 1. At the end of Xenoblade 1, Shulk became the new God right? Shulk wished for the future to be decided "by each and every person in the world." Hmm... interesting.... Z, who is the LITERAL personification of the collective unconscious for "each and every person" inside of Origin, just so happens to exist somehow... but how? It's established indirectly that Origin is essentially a temporary replication of the Conduit's power in the form of a universal backup hard drive. It's not out of the question that the similarities in power between Origin and the Conduit would allow Alvis easy access to Origin. MY THEORY: Alvis, using his perspective and impulses established by the pessimistic views of his driver Klaus, grants Shulk his wish of having the future be decided by each and every person in the world by taking control of Origin and creating Z. "I am Monado. I was here at the beginning, and I will proclaim THE END"

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

It's an interesting Theory but there are some holes in it. Firstly, what you would be implying is that Alvis killed his own Driver which isn't impossible but would go against his will. The Aegises are also special in that they were initially AI's in the Trinity Processor and spent a lot of time in memory space living out virtual lives to create their personalities (Siren Model Kit Lore). With that, Aegises personalities, whilst influenced by their drivers are not completely overwritten. The main reason that Malos turned out as he did is that Amalthus' rage was so strong. As for who awakened Alvis....well, no-one. It was stated that Ontos triggered a space-time transition event and dipped, thats it and it would be possible for him to do this as a processor because of his AI as well as being plugged in to the conduit (I'll drop some juicy lore about Alvis in a min). Alvis is also basically the Conduit. The Conduit is effectively a gateway to the Upper Domain and Alvis acts as one also as it's believed his consciousness lies there due to who he is based on and what he can do. Alvis calls himself Monado BUT that isn't what Monados actually are. Monads in Gnosticm and Leibniz's Philosophy (Which is what Xenoblade is inspired by) are unique to each and every individual. Each person has a Monad but they must find it within themselves. In the context of Xenoblade, each person has their own Monado (Zanza's and Meyneths Monado for example) and these are unique to themselves. Alvis is based on a specific character from a specific branch of Valentinian Gnosticism known as "The Christ" (On a similar note, Shulk is based on the Messiah). He acts kind of like a terminal to the Upper Domain where he interacts with the fabric of reality, similar to the Conduit. There are differences between Alvis & Aegises also. Pneuma for instance does have 3 swords but she crafts & wields them herself (which are manifested from her own Monad (Pyra, Mythra both have their own Monads and merging them together creates another)). Alvis on the other hand never wields his own Monad, instead crafting them from others which is what he did for Zanza and Meyneth. Hope this clarifies things 😊

@mistressminerva3382

Жыл бұрын

​@@JBspherefreak You say "Upper Domain" as like it would have been established already , that the Conduit would be some Gateway to 5th Dimensional or Wave Existence planes , but it isnt established yet. In Xenoblade Lore we only know for a fact that the Conduit is a Gate to the parallel universes / distant dimensions. Plus it gets abused as Energy Source ... Nothing more , nothing less. So far at least. I found that EccentricSandal had a interesting take so i want to join in on this convo. "Alvis + Z" - Alpha and Omega , "I was here at the beginning, and I will proclaim THE END" It would make sense for Alvis to force itself into the plot and bend it to ensure that everything happens so it can unfold as it did in the Main Plot of XC3. It is defo consistent with Shulks wish. And Origin is somewhat of a huge Space Time backup Hard Drive , and Space Time are pretty much powers that Alvis governs. "Alvis is also basically the Conduit" + "Alvis acts as one" - I assume you refer to the wave existence from Xenogears , not yet explained and established in Xenoblade. But i do agree. He himself refers to himself as the Administrative Computer of a Phase Transition Experiment Facility in the XC1/DE ending , and in XC2 Klaus says that Ontos triggered a Space-Time Transition Event , so this lines up , he defo seems to have had that Authority to do so. Hell he might even be the cause for the Rifts and the Black Fog in the first place. "I am Monado. I was here at the beginning, and I will proclaim THE END" - If Zanza was Alvis Driver it would completely make sense that Alvis has the Red Original Monado , because it was originally his and Zanza just borrowed it , kinda . Plus it does not contradict with Alvis being leveled up to a not established wave existence , but i suppose he can be both as long as he is connected to the Conduit and has a medium. "Monads in Gnosticm" + The Original title of Xenoblade was "Monado: Beginning of the World" - Alvis , Zanza , Meyneth , Shulk , .... dont forget Malos. Shulk is the only one of them from who we know that he found his own Monado within himself. Pyra / Mythra / Pneuma where never referenced as Monado. So just being an Aegis (trinity processor unit) does not equal to being a Monado. My point is Xenoblade does not necessarily use the word Monado the same way as what it is inspired by. By your logic , you could also argue that Monado just means Blade in Xenoblade Lore , because all the Blades can summon their own Weapons. Or alternatively every Person with Aptitude can summon a Monado / Blade. But in XC1 it is established that a Monado can change the very fabric of existence / creation. But XC2 dosnt use it like that at all. And XC3 named the Swords Sword of Origin and Sword of the End , you see Noah/Mio Ouroboros Form pulling them out of themselves tho. But otherwise the Noahs just carry it normally within a scabbard. How does that fit into the whole mess ? "Alvis on the other hand never wields his own Monad" - But he does , if Zanzas Monado is just the one that originates from Alvis then Alvis wields it when he teaches Shulk how to defeat Telephia. Which should be imposible if Alvis isnt the Monado , remember every person not directly chosen by it , will suffer pain , just look at Dunban.

YES, SHULK, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED.

I just hope they let us use everyone as a reward for finishing wave 4! Imagine how insane their classes must be

@mythos6308

Жыл бұрын

Bro imagine whoever is playable in the dlc story being useable in the main game

@rhettmitchell

Жыл бұрын

@@mythos6308oh my god please

@SivalinPuthery

Жыл бұрын

Can't wait to use the Chad class to beat Moebius

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Actually would be so based 👍

rex calling alvis a "heartless machine" to me indicates that alvis represents the logical side of the trinity processor, with malos and pyra/mythra representing the emotions, alivis acting on logic making him seem "heartless"

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I mean, even if that was the case, that still seems to be taking it way to far. I feel as if this line is heavily influenced from Rex's own emotions because I still think it is very out of character

@emblemblade9245

Жыл бұрын

Isn’t Malos the logical one? I would think that’s what Logos means

@airrider-jk9ik

Жыл бұрын

@@emblemblade9245 i mean, malos never acted logically all of alvis' actions have logic behind them, remember he didnt betray zanza because zanza was evil, he betrayed him because zanza was acting illogically

@jonasturman6953

Жыл бұрын

@@airrider-jk9ik malos’ whole character arc was about finding purpose and wondering why people do what they do, he at his core thinks logically, so he is confused at the parties actions in xc2, alvis is a combination of both logical and emotional, hence why in xc1 he allowed the people to make their own decisions (zanza and meyneth) and wanted to observe them, the logical thing to do for alvis would be to take control but he chooses not to

@ghostofhallownest5300

Жыл бұрын

@@emblemblade9245 Logic and malos don’t go together 😂

This is probably super obvious to everyone, but worth calling out anyway - Alvis being corrupted by Moebius seems like the most plausible explanation, if for no other reason than that it'd actually explain what the deal with the missing Consul A was this whole time (A = Alvis).

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

That is a Theory at present. I'm kinda hoping that Moebius took over Alvis (Kinda like X & Y which are avatars of Z) but there are other possibilities

To correct a misconception that I've seen pop-up: The classic Momado I is more-or-less Alvis's "Blade"; Zanza and Shulk were only using it his "Driver". They and Meyneth all get their own Monados; specifically, in the climactic scene, Zanza and Meyneth 's Monados connect to Shulk's Replica to create his True Monado.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

This is incorrect. Monados are unique to each and every person. In theory, every single being in the Xenoblade universe has the potential to awaken their own Monado (Actually being able to do it tho is a completely different matter). The Monado Alvis wielded should be unique to Zanza (It's possible that this is Alvis' own Monado that looks identical to Zanza's but I find this unlikely). Monado's are based on the Gnsotic & Leibniz's concept of Monads which are unique to each every being. Everyone has one but they have to find it within themselves. Because each Monad is unique to its own person, it is feesibly impossible for another to utilse someone elses Monad. There are also different Tiers of Monads but explaining that would require a whole video on its own which I intend to make soon. Again Saying that "Shulk is alvis's driver" can be disproven easily by mentioning that Zanza and Meyneth have Monados too. If Alvis was being used this way, then that would mean that he has multiple Drivers which is simply impossible for a blade. Hope this clarifies things 😊

@PlaytoWynn

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak That had been my impression for a while, what work how Zanza's Monado design throws you for a loop. Looking it up, though, I think you're right! 😅 I did know about everything else, though. 🤓

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, the whole concept of Monadology and Monads is really complicated (I need someone to proof read things when I talk about it 😂) so don't worry about it 👍

@PlaytoWynn

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak Just remembered that Shulk's True Monado is also called the Monado III, so the confusion is baked into the UI.

Alvis is more machine than Malos or Pyra/Mythra ever were. Malos and Pyra/Mythra gained humanity from being drivers of humans and from accruing all the data from core crystals on Alrest for untold number of years. Alvis went into a different dimension and maintained his original programming from his time at Radamanthus. It makes perfect sense why Rex would consider Alvis just a machine, because Alvis himself considers himself a computer, not a human.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

According to the Siren Model Kit, its stated that all of the Trinity Processor AI's lived out virtual lives in memory space which is what gave them some level of humanity to begin with. Even with that being the case and even if you are still right, this line still feels out of character for him because still out of technicality, it does refer to the other Aegises (& even more so to Poppi)

The ZR Pricing option, like in other menus, is probably that shadowbox at the bottom right showing the hero purchase/fill nopwatch. The button prompt hides/shows the menu, while what's shown in the menu are not bonuses like you surmise, but costs for purchasing your Nth hero and for filling the nopwatch so that you don't run out of time

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

You very much might be right. I didn't actually entertain that idea so thanks for pointing that out. There isn't anything to confirm that just yet but what your saying makes sense

Rex's Chad levels are off the charts

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

There making a bigger Chart just for Rex but we fear he's off of that one as well

Awesome video! Absolutely cannot wait to see how this all plays out 😤

@EnbyFish

Жыл бұрын

Same it looks so exciting

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much 😁 Wave 4 of the DLC Story honestly can't come quick enough!

@ChocolateKieran

Жыл бұрын

@@EnbyFish fancy seeing you here! 😂

@ChocolateKieran

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak couldn’t agree more! Looking forward to more breakdowns like this in the future too 😌

I've cut enough trailers as a professional editor to know that the "heartless machine" line is definitely taken out of context. It's very likely a line from a different scene and also a different character saying it. The difference in voice cadence and pitch between "Nothing's gonna get through to him." and "he's a heartless machine." is very clear so I don't think you have to worry about the direction of Rex.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

That was my assumption. Be interesting to hear where its from tho

XC1 Alvis: Walk this world together, hand in hand Xc3 Alvis: Lol jk, it was a prank bro

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

When the entire DLC story revolves around a "prank" 😂

The second quote from Rex isn't from that scene. As we all know from previous trailers, Monolith loves using Audio clips that don't match the actual video seen on screen. Go watch the original trailers and see how much audio meshes with the video. Also, the land they show is immediately identifiable as Gauer Plains, straight out of XC1. It's not even ruins. This leads me to believe the game takes place AFTER the origin reboot and is a Sequel.

@danielgrezda3339

Жыл бұрын

It's just like I thought, a bit of both! Can't wait to see how they end the xenoblade trilogy.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Like I said in the video, I do believe that this clip is "spliced" together but we checked both the English and JP trailers (Got my Japanese buddy to it) but we looked into the Lip Syncing and it APPEARED to sync up. Also, the land absolutely isn't Gaur Plain. Raguel Bridge and Lake are present with the floaty mushroom things but the terrain layout is completely different. Normally, a little further down where best girl is standing, there would be a hollow hill which spawn Tortuga UM so no, it isn't exactly the same area

I was kinda thinking this could be an epilogue since Shulk and Rex aren’t injured here since maybe they’d have those injuries in Aionios but not the real world? And I thought it was for sure the real world when we saw Bionis’ Leg but you’re right, we don’t see any of the overhanging hills that should be there. So maybe it is actually a prequel 😭😭 they just want us as depressed as possible. I’m still hopeful they’ll have a cute ending scene with everyone in the real world later though after the worlds merge correctly. I’ll try not to expect it though 😪 Hey maybe they’ll have successfully merged the worlds together in a timeskip cutscene at the end and everyone is hugging and having a good time. Right? Right…?

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

The thing is, your not wrong. If this is a Sequel, then Rex & Shulk wouldn't necessarily have those injuries so that is all correct. The only evidence to suggest this is prequel over a sequel is the cutscene of Aionios and us seeing Fei Fong Wong at Raguel Bridge but this COULD be a prologue clip where we get a recap of the Founders events. I do think thats major Copium but it is possible and I do also entertain the idea that the final cutscene takes place in the world after Aionios! 👍

Fei/Noah busting out his persona ouroboros 🤯

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Plz no Persona 😂

@LuisTorres-ih5sj

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak But then you could have multiple ouroboros forms 🤔

I think I know Why Rex said that. Maybe "Alvis" Killed his wives Pyra and Mythra and the one he is holding now is just his blade just look at it it's different (maybe he retrieved the remaining of his wives and became blade eater).. but when Nia project Pyra and Mythra blade in Hero form is still the old ones.. Rex is the type that held grudge and gets so emotional when Pyra and Mythra in danger.. He straight up goes so full wrath when Pyra is Injured in XC2.. Why not doing it to at XC3? getting Angry at Alvis because he's hurt/kill his wives seems in character..

Alvis is Moebius A confirmed! And this is leading up all to Xenoblade Chronicles X It must be the passage of fate

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

We'll see about all that but in the style of XC3, we can have hope 😂

I'm interested in Vandhams glow, it's really similar to the wave existence. A similar glow is around Shulk and later the embodiment of Alvis at the end of xc1

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Pretty sure this is just his Ouroboros power which appears to be different

Something interesting about the line vandham says.. "was killing grandad not enough for you". I mean to have killed his grandad that dude must bee at least over 100 years to still be alive. Time displacement or Mobius in dlc?

Black fog? Machine? Alvis is the true *annihilator*

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much 😂 this visual tell tale that the Black Fog comes from the other side of the rift is massive in that if he is being controlled and can manipulate the fog, then yea in effect, he is the Annihilator 😂

Something that u didn’t mention is that Pnuema’s core crystal is not on Rexes swords, I believe that someone who is good at making powerful swords (Shulk) may have made those swords for Rex.

Ain't no way monolithsoft is gonna miss the opportunity to make a zoro reference with rex wielding all the blades of his wives, calling it right now he's bound to do that at some point in the dlc

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I've seen the fan art of it and it will be ridiculous so no 😂

Maybe Masha is a blade? Or some kind of flesh/blade eater? She doesn't look like any kevesi race. BUT ALVIS! QUEEN'S WINGS! IT'S HIM!

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

There is Crystal/Gem on her chest so it is plausible that she's an Agnian but it makes more sense to me for her to be a Kevesi, only have to wait a week tho to find out for sure

ONTOS TRINITY PROCESSOR turn to shine

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

ONTOS is Riku confirmed

I don't know how the copywrite is split up, but if they could make a definitive connection between all 3 xeno series, that would be awesome. I thought, "that looks like Fei," instantly when I saw the trailer.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I don't ever think thats gonna happen because of the limitations of the story sadly 😅 Xenoblade can still take inspiration from those older series' but I don't think its ever gonna happen

@Wreck17Mitch

Жыл бұрын

The copyright issues lie with Square and Namco, as they each own Xenogears and Xenosaga respectively. The most we will have ever gotten is a cameo from Kos-Mos and T-Elos in XBC2. Maybe a character can look like Fei Fong Wong but it won’t be the same character

I here for more meta story!!!

My theory is that Vandham's grandad could be N and M's kid. The statues say that Vandham and Doyle were siblings, and N and M only had 1 kid. And N became Moebius generations after he died and not right after. And little side note, I want to see Shulk and Rex team up against N.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

That's been my Theory as well although, the Fei lookalike talking about "Grandad" kinda contradicts this idea but yea

So far from what i am seeing is that Alvis is quite pissed that he found out that Shulk has been dating Rex behind his back. So now he is showing shulk what happens when he messes with his feelings.

@Canthereoup

Жыл бұрын

PLZZZ

My theory is that Vandham is the great grand son of N, making him the grand son of N's son.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I'm more inclined to believe that Vandham is Fei's son (Which Grandad can then infer to Rex if Mio is Nia's Daughter) but hey, maybe I'm wrong

One of the times I wish I hadn't predicted Alvis 11 months ago...

I’m thinking maybe Alvis start out as A but will become Z at the end.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Possible but not sure how I will overall feel about this

@shurno1588

Жыл бұрын

I don't Think Alvis is Z , but i do think that Alvis has a strong link in it's creation. Just a theory , but i think he is what directly allowed Z to that a human form , to be more than just a concept , as Z represent all of the fear of the souls in the Origin , of all Humanity , And Shulk wished that Everyone may decide the Future of the world , So if everyone decided that they fear the future , Alvis made it so that there was no future .

8:35 It is Alvis Presly.

The reason Rex might have called Alvis a heartless machine is because it is not entirely Alvis just his body. He is acting more like a computer to act on Shulks wish for a world with out gods. Alvis is just here to keep that wish for Shulk by him and Rex using origin to become god like or gods. I hope that it is just a prologue and that the events of the dlc are after the main story because I have said since aobut the second wave of dlc that, Prologue dlc would be cool but epilogue dlc would be cooler.

@emblemblade9245

Жыл бұрын

I would like to add a potentially important correction that Shulk wished for a world “with no need for gods”, not a world without gods. So I don’t think Alvis is acting on some “eliminate all gods” protocol

@nobodyscomment929

Жыл бұрын

Well, Rex and Shulk aren't using Origin to become gods/god-like as Origin was simple design to ensure the continued survival of mankind on both of the worlds during their collision.

@Magic-Duck

Жыл бұрын

@@emblemblade9245 Thank you for clarifying the quote as it has been some time since I played XC1, and I dissagree with your point, but maybe Alvis' ai might see origin as god like and think there is no need for it so he wishs to destroy it.

@Paradox1012

Жыл бұрын

@@Magic-Duck shulks specific wish was for every person to decide the fate of the world. Aionios was the collective will of everyone's worldy fears. Alvis just took his wish literally instead.

@natchu96

Жыл бұрын

Alvis doesn't really have a personality outside of the trinity processor AI, though. He's always acted the part of a computer obeying commands, at best occasionally asking for clarification as to what an authorized user wanted or offering suggestions. He's never really shown to have felt remorse over the shit he's done or allowed to happen. The other two cores became Blades, which are explicitly meant to imitate and analyze the human heart for Klaus' sake. They were repurposed as something more than they were created for. Alvis was never anything other than an omnipotent tool to enable his users' wishes. He's never expressed a hint of guilt, or morality, or even compassion, just questions and answers. "He's acting more like a computer" implies he wasn't literally just a computer from start to finish.

Wuuuuuu Rex uses both swords!!!!

Alvis (Moebius A) was he actually the first Before Z or was he in Tandem with Z as in A and Z

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

No idea just yet. There's a couple ways that this could go but I at present believe that he has been taken over by Moebius forming Consul A but I might be wrong

@luistrejo3326

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak I like to Believe they’re as Wave Existences, the way that, Rex mentions him as Heartless machine means, He’s following pure logic. Alvis Could be Z in reverse he puts up a lot emotiona but something could have happened to make a simple A.I again. Where’s as in Z Put up a front of Emotionless logic but in reality was Aionius biggest critic and actually enjoyed the suffering of others if he was truly emotionless he’d feel nothing at all.

I'm not even disappointed with the dlc being a prequel and not a sequel. I'm just happy to see shulk ,rex and Alvis

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I still would have rathered one but at the end of the day, it is what it is. As long as its good, I don't mind too much 😁👍

@Mwamba_

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak we might get an end credit scene that's the exact same as base game except from the perspective of the Agnian side

bro has both the highschool dxd glove and a jojo stand, probably the 2nd strongest xeno protaganist following heropon riki

why wouldn't alvis have zanza's monado? all monados are literally his. zanza, meyneth and shulk are givin a monado by him and wouldn't have any other way of obtaining one.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Right and wrong... Alvis calls himself Monado BUT that isn't what Monados actually are. As I'm sure your aware, Monads in Gnosticm and Leibniz's Philosophy are unique to each and every individual. Each person has a Monad but they must find it within themselves. In the context of Xenoblade, each person has their own Monado (Zanza's and Meyneths Monado for example) and these are unique to themselves. Alvis is based on a specific character from a specific branch of Valentinian Gnosticism known as "The Christ" (On a similar note, Shulk is based on the Messiah). He acts kind of like a terminal to the Upper Domain where he interacts with the fabric of reality, similar to the Conduit. (Copied and pasted from above)

You forgot to mention that the aegis swords are missing their cores

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

We didn't get a great look at them to be honest and with their modified designs, I couldn't concretely say that they are gone. You are right tho, the crystals appear different

I think Rex was trying to see if there was a shred of humanity within Alvis. Knowing him he would try everything in his power to reach him. He did the same thing for Malos. I think he tried but as he said nothing was going to get through to him cause there might just be no humanity to reach out to. We just need more context.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate your enthusiam for Rex but I personally don't see it. He tried it for Malos but these words seem and feel so resentful but you are right, context is needed

@pokemon18ish

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak Who knows someone else might be saying that line. Cause when I listen to that line, it doesn't sound like Rex is saying it. The voice sounds like it's strained.

I honestly want Alvis to be himself not controlled, we've already got this body controlling/swapping in Xenoblade 3. Alvis might have a legit reason why he's doing whatever he's doing & I hope the writers don't shy from writing more grey or manipulative characters.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

The problem with Alvis being himself (In my opinion) is that the Characters he's based off of known as Wilhelm & Miang are both evil and the only thing to differientiate him is that he isn't. Additionally, I also feel it goes against his character that they set up in Xenoblade 1 so sure, gimme more manipulative characters but PLEASE don't let it be Alvis

@shadowsquid1351

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak oh I didn't know Alvis was based on anyone, interesting! In my mind if this is just the same old Alvis then the only way it would make sense is for him to see & confirm how humanity never actually "walked hand in hand" even after he gave a chance & that war, murder, manipulation, greed.. always plague humans in all Xenoblade worlds, so as a very calculated "person" he would think of a way to stop the chaos without being overly evil as in "destroy the world" evil but more in a drastic measure way that would cost lives or something similar but would result in a more stable world.

@emblemblade9245

Жыл бұрын

I dunno, isn’t Z more akin to Wilhelm? Though Wilhelm’s goals were ultimately beneficial while Z’s definitely were peak selfish and egotistical

@Paradox1012

Жыл бұрын

@@emblemblade9245 Wilhelms goals were selfish ,but he knows better because he was alive since Yeshua and Jesus christ were. He simply determined his plan to be the best for "Humanity's survival" (the universes survival as it is known , to be more specefic)not taking into account the will of humanity. I would say Z is actually the exact oposite of Wilhelm. Only taking into account the will of humanity paying no heed to survival or living day to day.

@Paradox1012

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak alvis is just fulfilling shulks wish of "every person should decide the fate of the world themselves" . Since aionios was created out of collective Fear of probably a majority of pepole. Alvis had no choice but to act on it when the time came because that was the directive given by shulk. That's why shulk asks "is this really what you want?" Because it doesn't matter what alvis wants he is still bound to the directive. Possibly because of the conduit? Stubborn thinking? Who knows ,but that's my guess.

It’s to much of a coincidence for that not to be some sort of descendant of Fei imo lol

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

But it's Noah so Nei Nong Wong "Vandham"?

@idannyhtv

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak who knows man it’s probably no relation. It’s just seems like to much of a coincidence lol

What if Alvis did something to Pyra or Mythra? very very VERY long shot, but could explain the line from Rex.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

That is THE only way I can see this happening and yes its something I've considered. If Alvis has severly injured or killed Pyra/Mythra, then this line does make sense but it still hits deep

@Sleiyphnus

Жыл бұрын

they still alive but i guess since they are not connected to conduit anymore,they are just free blade

@tapugami

Жыл бұрын

He killed them that's why they don't appear in the trailer

Heeeeeeeeeey. What if the subtitle for the new story dlc is 'Monado Beginning of the World' that would be so meta. I'd make sense!

Since the aegis sword don't look like the orginal I wonder if the amiibo will give us the orginal looking version

I feel like monolith wants everyone to believe it's a prequel because vandham but knowing monolith.. it's going to be more complex than that

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

It might be...but based on what we've seen, we kinda have to assume its a prequel so far

@bradleydrake6941

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak well it could be a prequel and sequels merging the themes of future connected and torna. Story being part past and part future

Hey the third ranked eunie quote where was thar from

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

The one ranked third was during the second Wild Ride fight

That line is probably out of context and may not even be from rex so hopefully soon they will add subtitles so we get confirmation but also what if alvis killed Pyra and Mythra which in turn emotionally charged rex to state that line

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

That is the only reason I can see him saying this which is something we've considered but you right, we need those subs

But where's Noah? The Expansion Pass key art featured his sword alongside Shulk and Rex swords, but if the DLC takes place in the past, there's is no way we can get a reunion between all the Xenoblade protagonists since the Noah we know and his sword didn't exist yet :(

@Argorox

Жыл бұрын

His sword did exist in the past because Noah's previous selves including N had it.

@Paradox1012

Жыл бұрын

I feel like it might jump around. The start/tutorial might be before aionios. Gameplay/meat of the game will be history/ prequel and towards the end of the game is post aionios (wether ita after ypu beat it or the final gameplqy sections are post aionios i still dont know). Resolution of past,present ,future.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

The sword will still be present because it appears to have been forged at the beginning of Aionios via the Nopon and Melia so it should exist but simply won't be wielded by the protag

@eliasacevedo9542

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak i mean his red sword, not the sword of origin or lucky seven.

@eliasacevedo9542

Жыл бұрын

@@Argorox every previous incarnation of Noah had N's sword, which is pretty different to Noah's red sword, the one featured in the key art of the expansion pass.

I honestly think it’s the Conduct using Alvis’s form…

I think the line that calls alvis a machine isn’t Rex cause it doesn’t really sound like him. It sounds like an older male character speaking

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Rex's voice does sound kinda old and it COULD be a new character but we had a look at the lipsyncing and the JP trailer and it does appear to be Rex

@HoeyJoey3500

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak that’s pretty cool then cause that just means Rex’s adult VA can really convey a lot of different emotions which Rex has always done but shows that he’s grown up a bit. Very excited for wave 4

He is a heartless machine like my two wifes is a common thing to say.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Guess its just not a UK thing 😂

I don't think it was Rex who called Alvis a heartless machine. I assumed it was Shulk as Alvis referred himself as a Machine to Shulk alone. It make sense if Shulk calls him that than Rex. Context wise is make sense if it was Shulk as he no doubt would feel betrayed by Alvis and called him that out of anger.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I get where your coming from...but we heard Adam Howdens voice just before and the "Heartless Machine" line sounds completely different so it isn't Shulk saying it but still could be someone else. We're only assuming that this is Rex's VA for now

is man facker the reaction man i konw.

I wish to see the old man Shulk that look like Cid from FF and maybe he was the grandddad that Vandham talking about

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I don't see how Shulk could be his Grandad but Rex would make sense

@Anarkyfloyd

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak Shulk adopted him after Noah died

To me this all looks like Alvis aka the Fog Machine gets transfered into the Aionios world , is pissed that he now has to consider more people to fullfill the collective unconcious wishes , then makes a grand plan from A to Z nobody likes because it involves killing a bunch of people from XC1/DE and XC2 including but not limited to Pyra / Mythra and all of Rex's childern until Rex gets angry and calls Alvis out as a hearthless machine. What he undoubtedly is. For what Alvis chops Shulks arm off and rips Rex's eye out. From there ... "Insert Founders Plot" staring Jo-Jo Vandham. Keep in mind Alvis did go through with all of Zanzas bulls* until he finally betrayed him with Shulk because Zanza was acting illogically and caused world stagnation. There is no reason to believe that this same Alvis would not propose a plan which betrays all people alive including Shulk and causes cauntless deaths over thousand years , just to get back to a fully functional World and Space Time.

How come no one is guessing the guy who looks like Fei to be related to Noah?

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I didn't mention it in the video because I'm saving it for another video (That I was working on before the Direct) but the current theory is that this is guy is Noah & Mio's son

Vandham has a stand

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

A stand?

Is it confirmed that the new protag is actually Vandham? I've seen some speculation that it's Noah, after he was resurrected on Bionis following the end of the game

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Less so confirmed, more so heavily implied and actually realistic. Based on the short 20 seconds of footage we got, we see both an older Aionios and this guy standing on Raguel Bridge. It's therefore heavily implied that this is earlier in Aionios and thus the Founder Vandham over Noah. This is then further supported through his gloves being completely different to Noah's Gauntlet (Might need to compare side by side to see the differences tho). The problem at the moment is that there is good VALID evidence to support this being a prequel whereas there isn't any for it being a sequel. Thats only as we stand right now and even with that evidence, it isn't guarenteed but personally, theres a much higher chance of this being a prequel then a sequel (Also, as I said in the video, if you look at the terrain shown, it is completely different to the Bionis Leg)

@cloudwinchester6877

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak Yeah, I can see where you're coming from, but I guess we won't know anything until the DLC actually comes out, I can't see them giving us any major details about who it actually is until right before the release date

if they play again the card that Alvis is not real Alvis but another puppet like they did with Melia I'm gonna be extremly disappointed.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I think it depends how. I simply don't want this to be the "SAME" Alvis that we saw in Xenoblade 1 because I feel airing as the antagonist goes against a lot of his overall chartacter. If anything tho, it is funny that we're now entertaining the idea that Alvis is actually Riku trapped in a Nopon body 😂

Do you think Alvis will be the main antagonist? Because they showed Z in a trailer and he ended up being the MA.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

At present, that is hard to answer. My hope is that Alvis or Alvis' body with someone else inside will be the main antagonist for most of the game but in the last chapter or so, someone else will reveal themselves to actually be the real mastermind behind everything. I don't really want Alvis as a final boss

@ashleycoburn9770

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak A?

Time travel

Wonder if the black haired guy is N and M’s kid? Looks a bit like Noah.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

That's my guess currently but we'll need more information to make certain

I'm wondering if we will see N

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I think we might if the story is going as I think it is

Im kinda glad i never made fun of rex

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

He is defo gonna steal your girl now

few things. Firstly alvis WTF this man got the zanza wings and is evil now (please monolith don't make me kill him). Secondly the whole "hes a heartless machine" doesn't really sound like rex to me, I've played the clip over and over and I'm not really seeing a correlation with the voice which to me means one of two things. It's either a brand new character all together which is likely or someone else we know, as for who your guess is as good as mine, but if I had to pick one I'd say maybe othoron? It could maybe be an older Zeke as well, but I'm doubting it

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

There literally the same as what Zanza had (Which I think is there to imply the level of power this corrupted Alvis has and not that he's been taken over by Zanza). As for Rex, it's possible that this isn't him but it might be so we'll have to see (Subs will help soon)

I think they gon do what torna did

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Me too

So Fire Emblem gets Xenologue and Xenoblade gets Emblems.... I smell a crossover! /jk

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Xenoemblems 👍

@Cosplaythief

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak The game will then get delayed to oblivion and then get turned into Tokyo Mirage Session 2. XD

Giga Chad Rex is making me question my sexuality

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Question? It changed the moment he showed up on screen

Alvis being controlled by Moebius would be incredible disappointing imo

@outerheaven3414

Жыл бұрын

Could be him being influenced by the will of Moebius

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Howcome? It isn't necessarily Moebius but that is the prominent theory rn

@eliasacevedo9542

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak You would assume someone like Alvis, who may very well be the strongest being in the Xenoblade universe wouldn't be so easily controlled by something that should be weaker than him. And If is Alvis somehow is powered by the conduit or something of similar power, there ain't no way Origin or Z can do anything to him, so i honestly believe he's acting on his own or following somekind of pre-establised command... or maybe a being of a higher plane of existence is controlling him, that would be a good way to set up the next saga of Xenoblade imo.

Alvis IS the Monado, though. The 3 Monado swords belong to him the same way Pneuma has 3 swords. When Alvis takes on his true form the 3 Monados combine and Alvis says "I am Monado." Monado is the Japanese pronunciation of Monad, which is the highest god in Gnosticism. I believe that Monado is Xenoblade's equivalent of the Wave Existence or UDO from XG and XS and it chose Ontos as its avatar in the lower universes.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Right and wrong... Yes, Alvis calls himself Monado BUT that isn't what Monados actually are. As I'm sure your aware, Monads in Gnosticm and Leibniz's Philosophy are unique to each and every individual. Each person has a Monad but they must find it within themselves. In the context of Xenoblade, each person has their own Monado (Zanza's and Meyneths Monado for example) and these are unique to themselves. Alvis is based on a specific character from a specific branch of Valentinian Gnosticism known as "The Christ" (On a similar note, Shulk is based on the Messiah). He acts kind of like a terminal to the Upper Domain where he interacts with the fabric of reality, similar to the Conduit. There are differences with Pneuma & Alvis also. Yes, she does have 3 swords but she crafts & wields them herself (which are manifested from her own Monad (Pyra, Mythra both have their own Monads and merging them together creates another)). Alvis on the other hand never wields his own Monad, instead crafting them from others which is what he did for Zanza and Meyneth. Hope this clarifies things 😊

does anyone else think vandham looked like Noah or is it just me

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Hmm, now that you mention it...

I'm excited for this DLC, but it being a prequel story means I get to watch everyone die :(

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

I don't mind the extra context but I do hope that we get a bit of context for after Xenoblade 3 (Even if its just a final cutscene)

Xenobruh

Your voice sounds different in real life then you are recording it.

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Its more so just the couple of filters I have on

What about Ontos?

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Ontos is Alvis

@That_One_Gaming_Guy

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak Oops, I forgot 😅

So... prequel confirmed?

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Not at present because it is possible that the cinematic of Aionios isn’t the world we’ll be playing in but all of the evidence (Rex & Shulk being uninjured, Aionios being shown and a man who almost certainly resembles the Founder of Vandham (Including what we know in the lore about him) leads me to conclude that this will be a prequel or at least start out as one. There’s always a chance that everything we saw might just be an opening cutscene and the rest of the game takes place after Aionios but yea

Right let's put some of this stuff to bed. This is just as likely a sequel as it is a prequel. Why? Because of origin. Nia says at the end of the game "I will see you soon" to rex and we know origin is holding the data and memories of everyone and listen I don't know why everyone is dead set on "this can't be alvis" Here is what I think has happened 1. Alvis said he was there at the beginning and he will proclaim the end" 2. At the end of 1 shulk asked alvis to create a world where everyone could decide there future. These two things are important. So how does it all work. Well noah and the team succeeded and defeated mobious. As the world resets alvis realises that the world has been pulled out of the endless now "which is what everyone wished for" As shulk and rex emerge from origin alvis returns to now proclaim the end as a result of the world moving away from what people decided Rex and shulk fight him. The other person is a new character and probably a distant relative of noah who was a founder and is now reborn with the others (don't forget we know noah is only a child again at the end of three so it can't be him) This third person will wield lucky 7 to complete the three swords It will end with the death of alvis bringing an end to the link to klaus and ending the klaus saga Alvis then proclaims the end

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

This isn't "just as likely" to be a sequel as a prequel, it isn't even close 😂 I am team sequel all the way because I think it would have been better for the game but based on the evidence we saw, it is heavily implied to be a prequel over a sequel (But that is based on what we saw which is only 20 seconds so there is still a chance for a sequel, I won't deny) Your argument of "Because of Origin" doesn't really hold up either. Yea, Origin could have returned them to that moment in time before and re-created Shulk & Rex as we see them there but thats not really whats in dispute. I don't deny based on the Alvis section alone that this trailer could go either way, its based on the clip of Aionios and Fei Fong Wong that leans is heavily into the prequel side of things. Nia's comment is also irrelevant as she also states "one day, we'll surely meet again" as in one day in the future and not 5 mins from now. If the worlds merged instantaneously, then maybe but we see the end of Xenoblade 3 with no Agnians in sight so that doesn't really work or mean anything either. In terms of this not being Alvis, thats not really where the issue is. This very well could be Alvis himself but making him the antagonist of this FINAL DLC for the Klaus Saga would be a VERY bad move by Monolithsoft (To the point where people I know would consider ditching the franchise all together). Why? This would go against Alvis' entire character from Xenoblade 1. All of his development and everything he did in Xenoblade 1 would all go to waste for what reason? I've seen people try to create reasonable explanations and theories to justify the means of him doing it but that still hasn't prevented him from becoming a huge contradiction thus far. We're largely on Copium that this isn't Alvis because it could quite simply ruin everything built up thus far. As for your idea, this is what I was talking about before with the same issue over and over again. Alvis shall proclaim the end and Shulk did wish for a world with no gods (where they themselves can decide the future) and its here that the MAJOR contradiction arises. Moebius doesn't allow people to decide the future because there is no future. Even if it was everyones wish (Which it wasn't that is simply how Z (Likely a computer AI) understood this human emotion), it still wouldn't be valid anyway because that is subconsciouss and ALL of the people then decided to move forward at the end of XC3 anyway. If the future is decided by everyone, then it will continue to be because thats what occuring at the end. This whole logic and statement falls and collapses in on itself ya see I feel like for a lot of this, we can go round and round in circles because it is based on ones interpretation of the trailer. I also will not dispute that this DLC may be a sequel because it is possible but I do think its necessary to not close your eyes to whats in front of you when it definetly implies in the later scenes to be a prequel. If you can find me any evidence to suggest that this isn't a prequel in those two scenes (Primarily a reason why the area isn't Aionios or why Aionios would still exist during a sequel), then I'm all ears but I don't think it can be disputed that it currently leans far more into being a prequel

@craigmarshall1980

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak everything you have just said (and it was a lot) Are assumptions and I mean everything. You have watched a 22 second trailer and gone "it's a prequel" I have decided its a sequel. Let's be frank unless you are part of monolift you know no more then I do. And let's be really clear here., xenoblade creates love to throw you off with misdirection Let me give you two examples. In xenoblade chronicles 3 trailer lanze says "I refuse to believe your him" while it looks like he is fighting noah. When really in the game its joran. In xenoblade chronicles 2 the creator said it had nothing to do with the first one and it was. So you cannot take anything for granted. For me I still believe it's a sequel and honestly I'm totally gobsmacked at two things you have said The first one being about origin. It's like you have totally missed the point of the fact origin is designed to bring people back to life. Its what it's designed to do and what powers the endless now and what it job is after the collision oftbe worlds . The second thing is alvis. When you talk about his progression? He was neutral he did Puck sides he completed his programming which in the end saw him turn against klaus. This is what's happening here to me Look your entitled to your opinion but this is mine

@craigmarshall1980

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak ps when you say "your argument" I'm not looking for an argument with you. I'm just putting an opinion over And until the game releases my opinion is a viable one. Honestly csn you say 100% (or even 51%) I'm wrong There is nothing wrong with having an opinion I'm sick of getting in to arguements with people and I'm not trying argue. I just want to put over an alternative

@JBspherefreak

Жыл бұрын

Allow me clarify when I stated the word "Argument", I did not mean it with any hostility (like the word is usually used). I was implying it more in the sense of a devate where both sides have their own argument. Apologies for the second conclusion. Also, you are absolutely entitled to your opinion and that is something I attempt to encourage on the channel. You have not stated anything outright incorrect (in terms of the Lore and such anyway) so I'm not even trying to correct you. I am merely providing you with the evidence and answers I have been drawn to which have lead me to conclude that it isn't a prequel (Feel free to do the same). My issue stands at present that personally, I can relatively simply shut down the Sequel idea due to Clip of Aionios and Fei but there has been nothing to contradict the idea of a Prequel thus far. You get what I'm saying? It could still go either way but based on the evidence we have at present and I emphasise "Based on that evidence alone", I am as much as 90% certain that this will be a prequel. Does that mean I'm right? Absolutely not but with that evidence, thats the conclusion I arrive at. I still believe there is a chance for a sequel, I really do but I just don't see it happening with what was shown thus far. Hopefully the next trailer brings us some more clarity soon 👍 You are absolutely right with Monolith throwing us curve balls though. I wouldn't really use your first example but your bang on with Takahashi originally saying XC2 has nothing to do with XC1 so it is very possible that this is a mis-direct (which I'm fine falling for. I still want a sequel so if anything, that would be a good thing) When it comes to Origin, I also find it important to understand that it has limitations. Yes, Origin can create people based on the Data it has stored inside but if it could return everyone, then it would at all times. More people = more life = Longer Aionios. My issue was simply that this Origin scene alone doesn't do enough to justify a Sequel (but it is neutral in that it does nothing for a prequel either). In terms of Alvis, again, I believe it comes down to everyones own interpretation of him but I personally feel this would contradict his character. (Tho it not being Alvis remains as Copium)

@craigmarshall1980

Жыл бұрын

@@JBspherefreak thanks for clarifying on argument. I dont want to come on and start an argument In terms of conclusions I have to be honest I totally get where everyone is coming from and I can see the founder links but honestly I'm keeping an open mind and I believe my interpretation of the lore and the interpretation of origins abilities are plausible I would say one thing however I will agree. With you on your conclusion in terms of interpretation but I don't think you can use the word "evidence" You have watched the same clip as me and made assumptions Until it's released we are both guessing and could equally be right

Kind of disappointed that Alvis is wielding the Monado 1, I really wanted to see Alvis’ blade form and to see a Monado blade of his own, similar to what Malos has

@JBspherefreak

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This is very possibly an early version of this cutscene and the Monado model is already in game so this COULD be a placeholder for now. I imagine Alvis will be in his base form tho but a power up later in the story

@_stealth_313

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@@JBspherefreak Maybe, but I really can’t see Monolith Soft and Nintendo using early, non finalized cutscene footage for a reveal trailer. Could be a placeholder but I don’t see the point in that

@JBspherefreak

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I mean, it wasn't a Reveal Trailer, it's emphasised that (even in the KZread title) that this was just a Teaser video. Also, Monolith have changed things like this in the past like with N's sword in one scene so if they simply wanted to show us something, then it would make sense. We still have around 5 months or so at minimum until it should be released

The debate over it being a prequal or sequal is not final. Look at the long haired guys arm. It's got the red gauntlet that Riku made for Lucky Seven. That's an older Noah. I'm willing to bet the game takes place AFTER the origin Reboot and all the people encoded into Origin are reborn.

@outerheaven3414

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Idk it all points to the Founders origin story

@JBspherefreak

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Riku didn't make them, the Gauntlet Noah uses (and the sheath of Lucky Seven) are Noah's blade. They aren't crafted like ordianry weapons but are a result of their Irises. The ones that the Noah-lookalike is wearing are also different with how their designed so at the very least, this isn't the same thing

Not gonna even lie, it’s pretty wack if this is a prequel. Personally, I have never been a fan of prequel stories. They are RARELY executed well and RARELY do they effing matter. Star Wars prequels is one of the few that ACTUALLY mattered and was genuinely executed well. Something being flawed doesn’t mean something isn’t effective long term wise. XC2 prequel played well but geez did I not give af about the story. It wasn’t very impactful because not only did I know how things would play out but it didn’t do enough to provide any decent clarity to the post game of XC2. I guess the only thing that has me holding out for XC3 dlc wave 4 is the unification of Rex and Shulk and everyone from their worlds.

@JBspherefreak

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I'd have to disagree with the statement about Torna not adding anything (Clarity) to XC2 but other then that, I get where your coming from, I still feel its a bit to soon to make judgement at this point in time but we'll have to wait and see with how the story plays out

@hartfantom

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@@JBspherefreak post game? I don’t recall Torna ever providing anything for the end events of the main game of XC2. It strictly is a story before the events of XC2 which tbh, for me personally, it didn’t even matter. It barely even expanded on the world we already knew but ay, that’s just me. I prefer Future Connected Far more than Torna. Future Connected provided me hours worth of videos of speculations to affects for the later games. After Torna I just sat there like “😐ok”

I couldn’t stand 3, it could not keep my interest especially with everything and anything gutted from 2, this actually looks interesting and it’s quite a shame this is DLC and not the actual game we got

@JBspherefreak

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Each to their own but I am hoping that this DLC compliments the Main Story of the game nicely to improve it even if slightly

@defoley5

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Hopefully, 2 was one of my favorite games of all time, 3 has been the only switch game I’ve ever regretted buying, how they gutted everything and gave us some of the most generic character designs… it wasn’t even worth finishing