First segment: Stephen getting the story right, but the invasion wrong- The Man Who Never Was was misdirection between Sicily and Greece in the Mediterranean theatre.

@user-bw8su6ii1m

4 күн бұрын

Correct. The name of the body used was Glyndwr Michael.

There was a shortage of silk during WW2. I remember my Mum telling me about gravy browning and drawing seams on legs. When my Grandad was demobbed from the RAF, he brought back a pilots escape map - it was made of silk and quite colourful. So Mum could use it as a headscarf. Still have it to remember them both by...

@EndertheWeek

14 күн бұрын

Nylon was just being invented but "nylons" became a very desired product during and after the war.

@thekinginyellow1744

11 күн бұрын

Parachutes were made of silk. That's why your mum couldn't have stockings.

@bleysmcnutt5500

11 күн бұрын

@@EndertheWeek In my opinion, the most interesting use of nylon in WW2 was as the string that held German dogtags to the neck, as almost 90 years later, when the skeletons are dug up, the red nylon chord looks brand new.

@muchsake

9 күн бұрын

My friend Lilian bought a some escape maps just after the end of the war in Europe. Silk was still short because it was being used for parachutes in the Asian front. She made herself a complete set of silk underwear and a nightie. I think her sister donated it to the Imperial War Museum when Lillian died.

@Fidd88-mc4sz

2 күн бұрын

After Leo Marks (head of codes at SOE) finally got rid of the disasterous 'Poem code', he had one-time code keys printed on silk for radio-operators to use. Special emphasis had to made in training to ensure these codes were cut away and destroyed after use (meaning the Gestapo couldn't torture keys out of agents to read their previous traffic, to overcome their reluctance to burn such a valuable material! Silk was readily concealable in street-searches. Marks got his way in the production of these by stating that the choice was "Between Silk, and Cyanide" - an excellent and occasionally amusing post-war memoire.

Fun fact: the flat where Alois and Bridgette Hitler lived was destroyed in the last German air raid on Liverpool of the war, and the buildings were never rebuilt - it's an open field. If you want to look it up, it's the junction of Upper Stanhope Street and Carter Street, Liverpool. For some reason there's a high density of religious buildings in the immediate area, including a huge synagogue

The gravestone of "Major William Martin RM" in Huelva was changed to read "Glyndwr Michael. Served as Major William Martin RM" after the British Government identified him in 1998.

I was very privileged to have as a very good friend a man named Peter Martin who was the son of Major (Captain) William Martin who worked with Ian Fleming during WWII, and was the given name of the deceased Welsh man. William agreed to his name being used to add significant weight to the subterfuge. William was actually sent to the US under another name while his name was being used in the subterfuge. To make things even more convincing, William's wife, mother of Peter who was a young boy, was informed of the death of William. Peter said: "When the war ended, my father returned and had a lot of explaining to do to his mother."

@rosemarylusty8045

6 күн бұрын

The Man Who Never Was was too young to have a son. He was just a young lad. He was Scottish. (And definitely NOT Scotch!)

Victoria's comment on Bill clicking his fingers!!! I wonder what "bad things" she was thinking of committing!

Pretty sure that the poor fellow dropped at the coast of Gibralta, was before the invasion of Sicily. So the Germans thought the landing would be in Greece.

@lexdunn4160

20 күн бұрын

I’m. No. You are incorrect. Stephen is right, as usual.

@bornskinny77

20 күн бұрын

@@lexdunn4160 well I did a google search and got this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mincemeat. If you still think Im wrong please send a link to a source. Would really appreatiate it.

@bornskinny77

20 күн бұрын

@@lexdunn4160 I did a google search and got this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mincemeat. If you still think I´m wrong, could you please send a link to a source so I can get my facts straight. Would really appreatiate it.

@bornskinny77

20 күн бұрын

@@lexdunn4160 According to Wikipedia, Operation Mincemeat was before the Sicily invasion.. If you have better info, could you please tell me where to obtain that info, so I can get my facts straight. thx

@gertstronkhorst2343

19 күн бұрын

@@bornskinny77 Indeed: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Never_Was_(book)

Don't mention the War.

@paulhammons7077

20 күн бұрын

What war?

@orwellboy1958

20 күн бұрын

@@paulhammons7077 thats the ticket.

@andrewrodigan7102

20 күн бұрын

Stephen is sorely missed. It was a difficult seat to fill and the BBC missed the mark as per usual.

@t.c.thompson2359

20 күн бұрын

War facts should be behind glass that reads "Break if the Germans start getting a little too serious"

@mannmctrash

20 күн бұрын

I'll mention the war if I want to.

Point to note:- if you baste carrots in butter & roast them in foil, they’re very sweet & tasty. Boiling them does no justice. (Also, onions are sweet too)

Sadly, Fry got his facts wrong on carrots. Cunningham flew his nightfighter over Britain, not Germany, and the propaganda was nothing to do with bombers, just nightfighters (the propaganda preceded the use of radar in bombers).

@tacitdionysus3220

4 күн бұрын

A few points of trivia. The book 'Night Fighter' written by Cunningham's radar operator (Rawnsley) is one of the best true WW2 stories. It combines genuine adventure, with a detailed description of the desperate 'continuous contest of measures and countermeasure of technology' between the RAF and Luftwaffe, tinged with the human dimension of dealing with the fact that your survival was fairly unlikely. Never made into a movie because the action at night would be very difficult to transfer to the screen. Cunningham went on to become a test pilot after WW2. The last aicraft he test flew was Concorde.

The Man Who Never Was, was a diversion tactic for the Sicily landings, not D-Day

"Cat's eyes Cunningham" was in fact a Beaufighter night fighter pilot, not a bomber pilot.

I actually got a call on the number of a dead collegue, who was dead for about a decade then, that had indeed been recycled. It was off course a wrong number being dialed by the current user of that phone number. But I was sure surprised when that number came up on the mobile. And after the call I realised: Yes, off course, the phone companies recycle the numbers.

There is a German verb "eichen" meaning to gauge, to adjust or to calibrate. So the name Eichmann could also be a profession surname like smith or taylor. But I'm no expert in etymology...🤔

Jazz - A group of musicians all playing different tunes at once, a drummer keeping time with no-one in particular, and someone blowing random notes on a trumpet.

@LukasOfTheLight

12 күн бұрын

"Jazz is a bunch of guys on the stage, having a better time than anyone in the audience" - Noel Gallagher

@thekinginyellow1744

11 күн бұрын

And here I thought I was alone in my opinion of Jazz.

@nigeh5326

6 сағат бұрын

Yep sounds about right imo 😊 Never liked jazz

Middle Wallop, did my basic tech training on helicopters there, also my upgraders. Home of 70 Ac Wksp and D & T Sqn. Also home of the AAC. nearby are Nether Wallop and Over Wallop. It was also, I believe, the largest grass airfield in WWII.

@lillired857

9 күн бұрын

My Dad was AAC, went to many an Airday in Middle wallop. I think they were in Detmold when we were in Germany.

Minor correction re Monty only allowed Churchill to smoke. He also allowed King George to smoke in his presence. Ike, who was a chain smoker and Monty’s superior could also I suspect smoke in Monty’s presence too.

"Dead person ringing" has already happened. Numbers used to be recycled after 6 months; after an incident with a young person, two decades ago, it was extended to 2 years.

Whatever happened to Clive Andersen ? And Rich Hall

What's the difference between a rock musician and a jazz musician? A rock musician plays three chords to a thousand people and a jazz musician plays a thousand chords to three people. 😝

@slake9727

16 күн бұрын

I'm stealing this.

Reading about bigot etc. It says that you could'nt tell the French, including DeGaulle anything, and have it kept secret

@bleysmcnutt5500

11 күн бұрын

It was not wrong.

@nigeh5326

6 сағат бұрын

The French did have a bad reputation re keeping secrets. De Gaulle was disliked by the other Allied leaders and even went to Moscow where he made agreements with Stalin without discussing them first with Churchill and Roosevelt. He was determined that France would not be dominated by Britain and the USA and that as soon as the D Day invasion began his French supporters would take over, not any other political group.

@bleysmcnutt5500

2 сағат бұрын

@@nigeh5326 But at the same time he couldn't comprehend why other countries didn't care about France as much as he did. I believe in 'Their Finest Hour' by Churchill he talks about the French requesting the entire British air force several times and genuinely being angry when they wouldn't give it to them. French arrogance blows me away.

I'm not mature enough to not laugh at Stephen saying, it's the sort of thing that pops up now and then.

hitler had the mustache because the extended bits got stuck outside his helmet during a mustard gas raid when he was a soldier in WW1, they got burned and he had to cut them off

the man was to hide the invasion of Sicily. Great movie.

You should considering combining those comedy clips that kept interrupting the adverts and maybe releasing them on KZread.

@Knotaro_bot

20 күн бұрын

😂

@pseudonayme7717

19 күн бұрын

Get an adblock mate🤷‍♂

@kahnadah

19 күн бұрын

uBlock Origin is your friend.

Everybody knows how "decadent" jazz is.

Where “we landed” !!!!!

I say old chap, get some working class chappy to do something heroic. Jolly good show 'what !".🎩

Is that Bill Bailey's son on the right?

@nigeh5326

6 сағат бұрын

Lol

Oh yeh? Monty let Churchill smoke? Churchill smoked, full stop. Don't like it Monty?

@nigeh5326

6 сағат бұрын

He also allowed Kinv George to smoke and I would suspect Ike smoked in his presence too as Ike was Supreme Commander

20:55 Hogwarts, the later years.

The ordinary soldiers did know at least a few days in advance of D-Day (they might not have known the exact day, but they knew it was very very imminent). My Gran's brother was sent to visit his family on embarkation leave and told to tell them "oh I just have a few days' leave" but not tell them why. While home, he told my Gran "when you here the lads have landed in France in the next few days, I'll be there- don't tell anyone!". My Gran was only 15 at the time and she felt the weight of responsibility of knowing a national secret. It terrified her but she didn't tell anyone, even her parents. Even when the news started coming through on the radio, she still didn't tell anyone she'd had advance warning. Poor kid! It makes me wonder how many other families got told a few days in advance by visiting soldiers saying "don't tell anyone, but...".

@nigeh5326

6 сағат бұрын

My grandmother and her sister grew up in Kidderminster and they used to talk to the many Canadians stationed not far from them. Then a few days before the invasion they all disappeared and everyone guessed they had gone to the coast to embark. It must have been the same for many Brits one day there are troops everywhere next day they’ve gone. It’s amazing how good the double cross system worked to keep the secret from the Nazis. If Nazi spies had been free in the population and had managed to warn Hitler and be believed it could have cost thousands more lives.

Swing Kids! Jazz loving young Germans in WWII

@nigeh5326

6 сағат бұрын

In my first year at university in the nineties we had to research the swing kids and watch the 1993 movie about them. It was from reading about the swing kids that I first learned about the white rose resistance organisation in Germany.

There should be a challenge to talk about World Wars but without mentioning Germany. I bet 99% of World War historians would jump out the window. 🤣🤣

@davidius74

19 күн бұрын

Easily done for anyone who isn't British. For those of us in Australia while we did fight on the western front in WWI it was more about Gallipoli and then WW2 it was the Pacific theatre. Both world wars had more participants then just Britain and Germany so your statement that 99% would jump out the window is false.

@SuperSky9

18 күн бұрын

@@davidius74 Congratulations on being in the 1% 😂😂

How could they possibly allow those errors about Operation Mincemeat to air?

@HALLish-jl5mo

12 күн бұрын

It's QI, they've been wrong about how many moons the earth has 4 times, with a different wrong number each time.

@him050

10 күн бұрын

@@HALLish-jl5mo yeah I see what you mean, but that’s more just misrepresentation of information, which they do all the time. Like when they say that WW2 technically ended in 1985 or whatever. This is just objectively wrong though.

@nigeh5326

6 сағат бұрын

Because what to people interested in an area is obvious, is to the great majority unknown. So unless you are knowledgeable about Operation Mincemeat you will never realise the researcher has cocked up. A lot of shows do it. Like you I find it irritating.

@him050

5 сағат бұрын

@@nigeh5326 but this is QI. They literally have people researching stuff as the show is being recorded!

The Man who never was was a Scot who had died of pneumonia (so lungs wet as if drowned) and who's father gave permission for his body to be used on the condition he had a proper Christian funeral -which he did - and his grave is in Spain with his real name on it.

@kathrynhobbs8874

16 сағат бұрын

He was from Wales His real name was Glyndwr Michael. He is buried in Huelva in southern Spain

15:04 - I've heard Stephen do his "as you rightly say / as you rightly pointed out" bit a few times. Can someone explain this to a confused Yank?

@hurhurhurhurhruhrurh

20 күн бұрын

What do you mean? He’s just saying “yeah, you’re right.” Does that make sense or are you asking why he’s breaking up the words?

@wordtothewise9723

20 күн бұрын

It's a very British way of acknowledging and crediting something someone has said.

@graceygrumble

18 күн бұрын

We like infixes e.g. "abso - bloody - lutely!", as an emphasis. Stephen Fry has taken that into the territory of the absurd and we find it funny. He first did this kind of bit back in the days of 'Fry and Laurie' (Hugh Laurie was his colleague). So, in part, I think many people in the audience remember how they did 'that kind of stuff' - the verbose and ridiculous - so well and it's still funny. Hope that helps.

@nigeh5326

6 сағат бұрын

As you rightly say etc is just the way some Brits speak especially if they have had a university education

The Hitler tree in Norfolk died and is just a stump now

I rember Fry asking what percentage of R.A.F pilots in WW2 went to public schools. The answer was (surprisingly) small, but i couldn't help noticing that 100% of the guests went to public school. So much for social equality!

@bloodybritbastard

3 күн бұрын

The rate of attrition was such that the RAF were taking anyone who had any aptitude to fly, and in some cases less than 10 hours training in a Hurricane or Spitfire, were sent up against the Luftwaffe. Schooling was less important than bums in cockpits.

My great-uncle did not commit suicide.

Not Welsh Stephen. Not Welsh

Why do you allow alcohol ads to children.

@nigeh5326

6 сағат бұрын

Eh? The BBC or QI aren’t responsible for KZread’s ads. KZread has its own policy on what ads can and can’t be shown

Operation mincemeat

Shame they did no research on the man with no name. He dies from pneumonia, which laeftw after in his lungs, and asked his mother if they could use his body.

So many ad breaks, unwatchable cut up so much, awful

I USED to like fry !!!! Not anymore

@ClaudeSac

18 күн бұрын

Go on then, you want to tell why. Go on, tell us why you do not like him anymore.

@theorenhobart

17 күн бұрын

I USED to like you !!!! Not anymore

@theorenhobart

17 күн бұрын

@@ClaudeSac great name! dutch much?

@ClaudeSac

17 күн бұрын

@@theorenhobart Thanks! And yes. Dutch much. 😁

@raywellswork

17 күн бұрын

do you want to tell us where he touched you?

How does the UK combat the current invasion of rubber dinghies assisted by France?

@nigeh5326

5 сағат бұрын

At the moment it doesn’t but hopefully after the election the next government will employ more people to process claims in the countries migrants come from and in a centre built in France. They will also increase the funding to the National Crime Agency to stop the criminal gangs making a fortune from cross channel migrants

Operation Mincemeat: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mincemeat