I said 6-10 hours in the video but it's 20 hours now or very close to it and my statement hasn't changed. I believe it will get much better.

@zardon_zane1630

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I guess they are so focused on the gameplay and player experience, so lets wait a few months to and see how it goes

@tinyhowie

Ай бұрын

I agree. I hope they will add in fine tuning of the sound tracks. The arrangement is odd, the music don't fit the scenes, just generally something playing in the background. Oh well they got priority to meet, the gameplay has to be good first. They can handle other things later. Right now they need to get it working for some quite big chunk of people.

@ImxxFuZe

Ай бұрын

I believe kuro will do what they do best, COOK. So ladies and gents... LET KURO COOK!

@ImxxFuZe

Ай бұрын

Also, Please collab with the bigger content creators of Wuthering Waves such as Rexlent and Tectone. Maybe you could get in touch with the people envolved with the Soundscape and you could give your two cents since you're of a qualified background in the music field!

@Mariuslorca

Ай бұрын

@@ImxxFuZe Tbh i dont want them to collab with Rextlent since he is mainly gameplay focused while Tectone has no focus, i prefer Marco collab with other existing game music youtubers instead.

Kinda ironic since the game theme is about wave & sound.

@4000ThousandSmiley

Ай бұрын

Yea the fact they lean hard on it and using musical terms for monsters and skills is kind a disappointing since you would expect the music and sound would be great to complement it even the world building revolves around sound. Having a good music and being dynamic would really elevate the combat imo since it would feel like your every action can affect the sound (not like rhythm games were you need to time the beat) and it will be the one thing that is unique for Resonators.

@tite93

Ай бұрын

Supposedly. I still don't see how those monsters being about "soundwaves" is any different from them being born of Honkai or the Death Stranding or whatever other game concept spawns monsters and hazardous zones that look weird and threaten humanity

@ryanlevy3163

Ай бұрын

there are drums on the grand library quest lol. the rest is awfully pretty quiet.

@hijodelsoldeoriente

Ай бұрын

@@tite93 Do they need to be different though? these tropes are pretty common.

@tite93

Ай бұрын

@@hijodelsoldeoriente well since they designed them this way and proceeded to associate them with sounds and musical terminology then yeah, they need to be original. Otherwise they could've just made Honkai 2.0 - interdimensional beings lead by a god/hive mind that appear and bring destruction, tearing down civilization or something of that nature

As someone who has just started Wuthering Waves, I too was dissapointed on how the music was kinda... Muffled? For a lack of better terms. Like I didn't even realised that there was combat music in the game until I really payed attention to it, unlike in genshin PGR literally slaps you in the face with awesomeness. Great game but on the music department it is lacking.

My problem with the music is there isn't enough variation per area. I like how in Genshin there are several 2 minute tracks that rotate for every area/city and there are a few minutes of silence in between each track. It really gives each piece room to breathe, whereas in WW I feel like I have only heard one single track for the main city and I vibed it with at first but now I just...kinda want something else.

@generaltoszur1036

Ай бұрын

You are lucky to even hear it because i cant remember even a single track other than loading screen because music is just to quiet

@doommaker4000

Ай бұрын

​@@generaltoszur1036Have you considered... Changing volume settings?

@retrox2776

Ай бұрын

​​@@doommaker4000 in their defence it shouldn't be that quiet to begin with if they have to manually turn it up just to get a glimpse

@iFishFrogs

Ай бұрын

@@doommaker4000 I shouldn't be required to up my general volume and lower in-game volume of things other than music to hear music.

@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy

Ай бұрын

Actually. Wait hold on. I think there actually is just one song now that im thinking about it. But if there isnt then yeah they sound WAAAY to similar.

Meanwhile a certain CC: "Wuthering wave soundtrack is better than Genshin". I don't know what kind of weed they're smoking. 😐

@MarcoMeatball

Ай бұрын

im all for blowing the wuwa smoke anywhere i can especially with the combat and exploration but that shit is NOT correct lol. even if I was about to be done with genshin froever or something i could never ever possibly ever in a million years say that. lol.

@FireBlueZ

Ай бұрын

​@@MarcoMeatballYa, your honesty and unbiased review when is what I really love about your content. Now back to WuWa, I have hope that the soundtrack will get better, but that only if they use the same soundtrack director from PGR, and compose by Vanguard Sound. So far, WuWa soundtrack is just like Lofi, but there is still no "wow" factor that will make me stay in an area just to listen to the music.

@MarcoMeatball

Ай бұрын

@@FireBlueZ i think it will.

@marduke83

Ай бұрын

As soon as I read your comment I knew who you were talking about lol. In Genshin I would literally stop and listen to the music at times (especially when I was new to the game), but Wuthering waves has not given me that same experience, not saying it is bad at all, just like marco said, not inspiring.

@UrLastSurprise

Ай бұрын

Which CC would that be?

Yeah the music is a bit plain, hopefully in later updates they get back into it

@OhItsKobi

29 күн бұрын

I agree with you. When I first played Genshin, the music MOTIVATED me. It made me want to explore and get sidetracked just adventuring around. I don't feel that with WW and it makes me a bit sad because we all had really high hopes of what the game would be upon release. Exploring is fine, but it's mostly just that.. 'fine'.

Their whole ost budget was for the menu music

@beckham3533

Ай бұрын

imma be real idk what happened to the budgeting that the VAs seem AI generated and the music/story writing is lack luster

@Rimurusama24

Ай бұрын

and that was like 50 seconds long lol

@Bstrdmn

Ай бұрын

​​@@beckham3533it's just the eng dub that's bad, plus their other game has a tiny fraction of players who use it (so they probably misjudged how much attention to give it) edit: ref the music and story writing, haven't done enough of the game yet (but it seems pretty mediocre so far)

@huadavid6739

Ай бұрын

@@Bstrdmn I will change to Jap dub when they fix the subtitle. The eng dub is just unbearable.

@hijodelsoldeoriente

Ай бұрын

​@@beckham3533The writing is slow and steady which doesn't mean it's bad, it's actually coherent. Even the dialogue heavy scenes during the beginning are purposeful. Bloated for some but still maintains its footing. The EN VA direction indeed has some issues but not all of it. Yangyang's voice direction is lackluster. She talks so slow. But the rest like Baizhi, Mortefi, Sanhua, Scar, Jiyan are great. The music, I got to be honest. It's good but not as memorable as Monstadt and Liyue. We shall see though as Kuro had proven that they're capable of great music in PGR.

I travelled to various region on the map with different environments and barely hear any noticeable difference in the music. Just like you said, the music "just there" and it's quite disappointing, since open world games i like (genshin, oblivion, skyrim, even fallout) have musics with strong identity to the area they are related to and it lift up the ambience and the overall gameplay experience.

@himotoorugami6533

27 күн бұрын

I've been playing for some 8 hours straight, I do enjoy the game don't get me wrong. But I didn't remember any single piece music at that point, unlike when I first played Genshin and HSR. Agree not that memorable.

I agree, I really love the exploration and combat. But the music hasn’t really hooked me like Genshin, HSR, HI 3rd. I do have faith that Kuro will create banger music later once the launch honeymoon phase is over.

@GLoLChibs

Ай бұрын

I'm not hopeful. Getting Will Steston for their launch music video...but they missed the mark so hard with it. Just having characters randomly walking or practicing by themselves did not go well at all with the music of the vocal portions or the lyrics themselves. The music only worked slightly better... the electronica...skilled sound was better placed with the aesthetic but too upbeat for such low energy visuals.

@kaionyoki3670

26 күн бұрын

@@GLoLChibs wtf

Well, i think its missing a "Identity" or something like that. Compared to the obvious contender and final boss "Genshin Impact", its really lack a identity for me, something like i listen too and instantly associate to the game, something that bring me back memories you know. I'm hoping the best of the best for this game in every aspect possible, let's see what they will make in the future

@tite93

Ай бұрын

Yeah, it's really missing that special "something". That's aside from all the other issues that will probably get fixed throughout the month

@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy

Ай бұрын

You know whats crazy? I think this is the one criticism that compares them both that i cant agree with. I think the world revolving around sounds and stuff distinctly sets itself apart. Infact i havent seen any form of fiction that used sounds and frequencies as their base for their worldbuilding and power syatem. But you know whats another crazy thing? Despite me saying that, for some reason it doesnt FEEL special does it? Thats really weird.

@tite93

Ай бұрын

@@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy it probably feels that way because they don't really do all that much with that concept. It might as well just be another interdimensional apocalyptic force a la Honkai, the musical part is pretty much irrelevant aside from some stylistic choices

@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy

29 күн бұрын

​@@tite93Yeah. Well it is just 1.0 Gotta give it more time to form and see where it goes

@aichisendou6375

27 күн бұрын

​@@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy concept can be anything you want to be, but when you cannot make them to have a substance, they will remain to be ideas fleeting in the air. execution of the concept is how you get concept to become a story, and WuWa just fumbles them so hard they prob would have to pull something like what ToF did, maybe not to the extent that they did but gets pretty close to that disaster

The music is what elevates the story and the gameplay. It is what made the mondstadt(I still can't spell it) part of the story nostalgic to a lot of the players despite it being rlly simple. Like amber's theme, dawn winery theme and the main city's theme.

@FeuerfaustGolDAce

Ай бұрын

Spelling is fine. Just make it uppercase and you're set ;)

@zulzineloso7531

Ай бұрын

I dont know how to feel when they said whe improve the story and at the same time whe added skip now i heard they are gonna make all story skippable

@justanewbie972

Ай бұрын

@@zulzineloso7531 they gonna make the story worthy to be skipped lmao

@Ari-ek1dx

Ай бұрын

​@@zulzineloso7531 Hey its there for you to chose so we dont feel like they want to shove their story into our face like a certain game.

@zulzineloso7531

Ай бұрын

@@Ari-ek1dx i like wuwa because i dont have to listen to the story and i play genshin for the story. Both games have their goods and bads thanks to genshin being a casual game i can enjoy other games and thats fine for me

"Wdym marco your a video game music youtuber so you have to like every music because if you don't then your fake, i have listened to 20 music reactions every day so I'm practically mozart, bach and beethoven into one person and i can do my job better than you!" In all seriousness i agree wholeheartedly, i personally dont see my self adding any of these songs into the playlist

@SaraHoshinoVT

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I have faith Kuro will release bangers after the honeymoon launch period. (Edit: typo)

@raline46

Ай бұрын

this is why i hate most reaction videos. they always lick up company's and fandom's asses😭 marco is very few who actually try to understand, and i respect him for that. like, i'm a big persona fan, but marco doesn't hype persona songs as much as he hype hoyo musics, and that's totally fine

@rasurin

26 күн бұрын

​@@raline46he constantly is 20 ft up mihoyos ass despite their music being nothing but generic ripoffs so idk what you're even on about, stop being a fanboy of his too lol

Gameplay is good, but the music, the atmosphere and the characters are very bland. It's hard to immerse into.

@TheCaribbean04

Ай бұрын

Agree, the only thing I like about WuWa is the combat and some exploration mechanics. For an open world game like this. Atmosphere is very important for me.

@momsaccount4033

Ай бұрын

I think the characters are great though

@Arctis326

Ай бұрын

I got pretty bored after a few hours lol

@PhuongHoang-cj9jz

Ай бұрын

@@TheCaribbean04 Would work better with a semi-open world like Stellar Blade. Open World for Wuwa just dilute the content from the best part being combat.

@binqilinbinqilinbinqilin

Ай бұрын

⁠@@Arctis326me too the gameplay was too much complexity and over the top. Idk it was interesting for 4 hours playing, but I deleted it after getting Verina.

I mean the WuWa soundscape is just ambient, too ambient to be of any impression.

@greatloverofkrishna

Ай бұрын

it was so ambient that I stopped the music and listened to the port ormos theme .....😂

@FreneticPotato

Ай бұрын

If I didn't use it as sound cue for a nearby battle, I would've just opened up a youtube tab lol

@khangpiano549

Ай бұрын

After playing for ~10-15 hours I still can't hum or sing anything from the game

@shatteredsentient5321

Ай бұрын

Botw plague

@LordDaemont

Ай бұрын

This is basically it. It's ambient music, it's only there if you actively try to listen to it but it isn't made to catch your attention or remain in your mind. Personally I think it's neutral at best but nothing is outright bad if assuming it was designed to be like this.

I think my problem with this game is that it's trying TOO hard to do what Genshin is doing and it really shouldn't. I hope they can make their game more unique as time goes on, but I'm a bit disappointed as someone who really likes the aesthetic of PGR

@heavel

Ай бұрын

I wished Kuro went with making their own take of open world, but everything they do is copy Genshin but without learning the issues Mihoyo had and not being well-thought out with its foundation

@MelikeMei

Ай бұрын

Honestly yeah all the mechanics are too similar to Genshin Impact, I thought at least some stuff gonna be different but yea only like fighting and you can dodge is different

@Violet70725

Ай бұрын

Not just genshin, this game also copy some part that star rail does in the game. Like the price for battle pass and monthly pass. The trailblazer power up to 240 daily. Also, it feels dejavu. Like the red hair lady is similar to march 7th style and yanyang is like dan heng style.

@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy

Ай бұрын

I can only agree a bit. Not fully but a bit. Certain things like the UI (oh my gosh the UI) screams genshin but then when you get to some of the other stuff like the combat and the world and what their doing with aounds and stuff, i do think it branches away nicely.

@heacheysz5644

Ай бұрын

@@Violet70725 March 7th style: Energetic and Extrovert girl, Dan Heng style: Mysterious and Indifferent boy...

Music was the last thing I thought I would be disappointed by in this game.

its especially sad considering how much sound and music concepts are in the lore and story of the game. resonators, tuning, sonance, echos, tacet, reverberation

Idk whether or not it's ironic how the game's full of sound-related terms for its world building but the music is more on the muted side for the most part. I guess the silver lining is that it's not gonna distract from the gameplay...

@articueilacoryphaeusdux5941

29 күн бұрын

Yea they should certainly work on the sountrack in which I do beilive, since they have shown that theyre willing to listen ...but you cant deny that the sound effects are great...

Making everything about sound in the story was a weird choice when they neglected music and voice acting lol. Not a Genshin killer but it does combat very well and gives something Genshin refuses to give so I don't think either will kill the other outright. If Wuthering Waves can course correct the story/music and get the lag issues together, it will be fine IMO.

After playing thr game for 3 days i can say I'm already bored. What I can say is i need visuals and music that can impress me and wuthering waves just not doing it.

@saika.magoichi.214

Ай бұрын

I thought it was just me. I think maybe it can get better as more time goes by. but compared to genshin the story isn't a good, the voice acting isn't a good and overall it's just not engaging

@valerieschnepp

25 күн бұрын

Same here... everything felt dull and boring... The music, the landscapes... And the dialogues are so badly written I was happy I could skip them... It's like a cheap copy of Geshin, they tried very hard to do better but the result is disappointing, in the end it's less beautiful, less captivating, less interesting... I've never been so happy to play Genshin ! xD

I'd like to think that this is the game trying to figure out its identity, and once it does do that, that's when we'll really see what it's made of

@TheGelieace

Ай бұрын

they should’ve figured their identity as early as planning stages, not after release

@jcceno4273

Ай бұрын

​@@TheGelieaceI think they did but they did change everything post cbt1

@Cyriusization

Ай бұрын

even if they find their identitiy later new players will still experience this bland garbage when they start playing and at that point they already lost most ppl

@FreneticPotato

Ай бұрын

@@jcceno4273 then the big question is why they went ahead with the release, knowing that they changed a whole lot. Some other content creator echoed (heh) this sentiment and said that it feels like the game needed more time to cook in cbt before being officially released.

@jcceno4273

Ай бұрын

@@FreneticPotato cn cbt1 players didnt like that the mc wasnt immediately liked by all the characters so kuro did it, for me i havent really experienced any big bug granted the only bugs i care about is gameplay/combat bugs and so far i havent experienced any

Yep, the main menu music feels like the best thing they've got.

@903IDFOLEY

Ай бұрын

It again feels like they just don't have time... Kuro knew new players will listen to the title screen music, so they took the time and effort to make sure it's good, but the same can't be said for the rest of the game, and when players settle down to listen, it becomes very obvious they haven't given it much thought.

@nmate2955

Ай бұрын

CBT2 Title theme are good too why they remove it..

@Glasyara

Ай бұрын

​@@nmate2955it's a boss theme

@Glasyara

Ай бұрын

imo the lampylumen myriad theme is the best they got for now

@Windtorment

21 күн бұрын

Crownless and login screen tracks are the only two good tracks in this game.

I agree. Music is severely underrated in games. Its a lot what makes genshin as good as it is, and what this game lacks so much.

@neocodexx

Ай бұрын

@@SyLuX636 absolutely not true

@massive_legend6766

Ай бұрын

@@SyLuX636 Zhongli still has one the most banger music in genshin, and it's still the most viewed demo by far

@cniorxuan3424

Ай бұрын

@@SyLuX636for genshin, even the login theme is good imo so i hardly agree your taste for music, and also it’s too clear that even music in punishing raven is better than wuwa, which i mean it is so fit for the gaming itself

@blexbottt5119

Ай бұрын

@@SyLuX636 No way man. I clearly remember the tracks from dragonspine, stormterror lair and such

@speedrunner3312

29 күн бұрын

@@SyLuX636 you have ass taste. their music was always good lol.

I truly disappoint with their weekly boss theme... it just so bland...

@FreneticPotato

Ай бұрын

there was a weekly boss theme? I hardly noticed.

I was really disappointed with the ost as well, because the main theme you hear in the menu and the one from the web event sounded great and unique. Then the game itself just sounds very... Bland. Story and characters also didn't captivate me in any way.

@luisreynamboarcos2958

Ай бұрын

They need to do better and fast in that regard becouse the top performing gacha games, Genshin, Star Rail and Nike have very, very impactfull music that complements perfectly their worlds. The story too is, as far as I was able to play before the game crashed totaly, very boring and again, those other games have very good stories over all, at least right now, so kuro has very strong rivals when it comes to first impresions.

@Arthur_url

Ай бұрын

@@luisreynamboarcos2958 Yeah, I haven't played Nike but the story in Genshin and HSR is always peak (Penacony was incredible). WuWa has 6 story chapters as of patch 1.0, and I finished chapter 4 earlier today, and its still quite boring :s

@hijodelsoldeoriente

Ай бұрын

​​​@@luisreynamboarcos2958I like the story. Even the dialogue heavy start is purposeful. Also, I wouldn't put Nikke there, Nikke's first chapter compared to WW's first act is not great. Nikke's first chapter is a soft corn and relied on instant gratification by "offing" someone early. Thing is, Kuro's writing is usually slow and steady until it ramps up. Just like in PGR. The story in PGR is the best story I've ever experienced in gacha including Genshin and HSR. But a factor is that I love post-apocalyptic scifi.

@omega6826

Ай бұрын

​​@@luisreynamboarcos2958bro try to sneak in Nikke

@aurovictor2286

Ай бұрын

@@Arthur_urlAct 5 and Act 6 is really good.The Final boss fight is the best boss fight you would find in a gacha game.But Yeah,The first 3 chapters are really,really bland.

Nier Automata has a post-apocalyptic setting and it has some of the most memorable music I've ever listened to, so Kuro has no excuse having generic, bland music for Wuwa

@heavel

29 күн бұрын

Which is ironic as Kuro's other game, P:GR used Nier Automata as inspiration for the game cause they are fans and has a collab with the IP

It will be interesting to see whether Kuro will pour as much investment into their music as Genshin. One of the best parts about Hoyoverse is that they treat the music as important as the story, combat, etc (mentioned in one of their music showcases). It's not just the money they pour into it. It's treating the music as an indispensable part of the game, which trickles down to the communication and workflow of the entire team. Plus, having the LSO play your soundtrack is a hard one to top. 😁

@TheBoltMaster456

18 күн бұрын

PGR has a far superior soundtrack to Genshin IMO, and Kuro poured tons of investment and time into perfecting the soundtrack of that game. So I'm only hoping they do the same for WuWa.

I'm was also not very impressed. I like the overal themes but there is something missing. And then Genshin threw goddamn AIMER at us in the new animation short. Man... It's going to be tough musically speaking for Kurogames. I hope they can find their own thing sooner than later. The more bangers the better.

@GLoLChibs

Ай бұрын

Yeaahh. Kuro got Will Steston for...an alright track that didn't really match the energy and random visuals but it was Steston so a win... And Hoyo comes along with Aimer a week later hitting everyone in the feels.

@xoradivided7950

18 күн бұрын

eh, its like one of the worst aimer songs ever

That's a shame. Good music is one of the things I absolutely love in video games. I'll still check out Wuthering Waves but now I know to lower my expectations with its music before I try it. Thank you, Marco

You have a point. I'm in the middle of the story and so far there hasn't been a single moment I've stopped to think about music. Combat wise it's fantastic and fun, but yeah music in-game seems to be more of an afterthought. To be fair hoyo games have FAR more budget, I imagine Wuwa team just had to prioritize certain aspects over others

@Bstrdmn

Ай бұрын

I randomly heard the menu theme once, I stopped and thought 'oh, that's the main menu theme' if that counts

@liandoaethend2403

Ай бұрын

But the thing is... 10cent is funding Kurogame... one of big CN corpo

@SorarikoMotone

Ай бұрын

@@liandoaethend2403 and they've blown all that money on times square and truck ads

@mysteriouslyunknownperson5221

Ай бұрын

​@@silverhawkscape2677Pretty much they have the sponsor/budget for it. Tho we can't say with certainty as for now.

@aurovictor2286

Ай бұрын

@@liandoaethend2403Tencent only owns 15% share and they just started investing shares in 2023.They don't give Kuro the Money from get-go.And 15% share don't do shit.

This game represents resonance, sound waves or whatever but the ost is not kind of keep with that concept.

The game didn't manage to retain my interest, personally. Even with the fact I appreciate the work Kuro Games does and I am a PGR player myself for over a year now, so it goes without saying that this really saddens me. I think it's a well made game on most regards (optimization aside) and I would also say that my entire time playing it gave me a very pleasing experience on the musical aspect, but I can't remember a single song, neither correlate any piece or segment with any particular place or plotpoint. The music, like you said...is kinda there. It's not fair to say it lacks an identity, so to speak, but it certainly lacks impact, it fails to leave an impression, even if it's quite nice to listen to. I enjoy ambient music, but on a videogame of this genre (and specially with PGR having so many bangers), I can't help it but share the same feeling of disappointment you had

I'm really enjoying the game, but tbh I was really hoping it would have better music. I haven't really found myself sitting back just listening to the music, I've mostly just tuned it out like it's white noise. If anyone has any pieces from the game they like and would recommend I would happily listen to them though. No doubt I haven't heard everything it has to offer.

Marco will you react/talk about Genshin's Remuria OST? particularly stuff like "Glory and Decay" and "Requiem Resonantia"

the game feels so unfinished in almost every aspect, including the music, not to mention all the bugs. I saw a few CCs that played the last beta say they were surprised by the release date because it felt like the game was still far from being release ready. unfortunately, i have to agree. i have encountered so many bugs that make the game incredibly frustrating and almost unplayable. i have hope that it will get better, but as it stands now, i think they should have pushed the release date and come out with a more polished game.

I heard they recently JUST hired an actual composer. You're telling me they didn't think about doing that from the beginning?

@arnowisp6244

16 күн бұрын

CBT nearly broke them. So only now are they getting an Actual Composer back.

The term “Genshin Killer” no longer has any weight to it now and for the foreseeable future. Today and the hype that’s been resparked thx to Dain and Natlan has proven no one’s ever gonna come close to toppling Genshin.

@MeowEste

Ай бұрын

No one ever said that WuWa will be Genshin killer, it's nearly impossible for such a small company as Kuro and without all that additional parts of the Genshin success as being reliesed in pandemic.

@CrystalRubyMoon

Ай бұрын

Remember when Tower of Fantasy released, and they were calling themselves the Genshin Killer. But then Hoyo released the Sumeru 3.0 livestream, and that game was buried immediately. With how Wuthering Waves released so buggy, Kuro could have at least released their game next week to allow their devs to work out the final game some more, during the downtime of the Genshin livestream and before the 4.7 patch release. Hoyo releases their patches every 6 weeks. It's not hard to look at the calendar and gauge the timing I'm sure this won't kill WuWa, but in no way is Hoyo ever worried about their "competitor" either

@toxicfx_nuhaad9175

Ай бұрын

@@MeowEste Almost any YT comment section would go monkey brain when it came to nuanced takes regarding Wuwa and genshin. Its either one or the other according to alot of yt genshin haters. Dog eat dog world where nothing can coexist. Almost any new video covering Wuwa was guaranteed to have genshin being downplayed either in the video itself or the comment section because most of these people fueled by rage can't stop inhaling their copium. Even now so many of these people are acting like Genshin suddenly just created a new endgame mode out of scratch after wuwa announced their release date because according to them, throw enough money and you'll have content made in weeks. Laughably bad takes.

@nurjltwrjhohf3071

Ай бұрын

@@MeowEste No offense but I'm not sure it was possible to talk about WuWa in social media without people talking about it being a Genshin killer. If you hung around WuWa discussions long enough, sooner or later you would hear someone telling you that WuWa would finally kill Genshin. This was especially true of a LOT of content creators. A lot of people hyped this game up as THE Genshin killer.

@liandoaethend2403

Ай бұрын

​​@@CrystalRubyMoon the beta players said their game were fine in beta, so its very confusing by how much buggy it is on release, i tried out ToF for a week, and goddamn i wish i never downloaded that game, sadly it goes as well to WuWa (istg games funded by 10cent gonna fk up high chance) WuWa makes me sad cuz i anticipated their release, cuz i like how it looks, the voice acting is bad too for EN

it is kinda wild thinking how we got bangers like Narwal in PGR but they couldnt give us anything as standout in WW as of right now.

I love the city's music

this are exactly my feelings. as i explored around areas, everything sorta blended in the bg and felt like the same energy. nothing really stuck or made me want to stay in an area to feel immersed with music and scenery. im no professional in music buut these are my feelings about it. hopefully they improve in the future.

Marco speaking the truth. It’s why I turn on KZread videos unlike in genshin where I love the background music.

As a person who's greatly enjoying WuWa and put Genshin/HSR on hiatus while playing it... I fully agree. The music is definitely the weak part of this game. In the end I'll keep playing all three games.

@liamizuki6787

15 күн бұрын

Pienso lo mismo. De todo el juego (Wuwa) solo me gustaron 3 canciones 😓Es triste porque una de las razones principales por las cuales, por ejemplo, Genshin y HSR llamaron tanto mi atención fue por la música, así que estaba esperando que con Wuwa también fuera el caso, pero lamentablemente me decepcionó bastante. Así que lo que he hecho estos días es bajarle todo el volumen a la música de Wuwa en la configuración y luego pongo una playlist de mis bandas sonoras favoritas de videojuegos (a veces pongo los OST de Genshin otras veces los OST de Final Fantasy o Nier.. etc) Para mí es más disfrutable y ameno el juego cuando se tiene una buena banda sonora de fondo.

The music is second worst to the EN voice. That MUST be AI generated, no way someone voiced it that bad.

@iXland_Yt

24 күн бұрын

Hey, we don't need unnecessary flame towards the voice actors - they are real people

@shushyshushy6762

23 күн бұрын

@@iXland_Yt Yangyang sounds too dull and lifeless, she is TOO boring and the fact that she's such an important character in the early part of the game with a lot of dialog makes it worse, and the EN VA only adds to the fact she's so boring. I've started skipping cutscenes just so I don't have to listen to her talk.

@iXland_Yt

23 күн бұрын

@@shushyshushy6762 That's fair, but that's not the point - they are definitely real people. I also agree that Yangyang's EN VA is underwhelming and dull and I am also disappointed along with the majority of wuwa en players

Music is the true hero of every great video game. Without it your game lacks soul and will be easily forgotten.

Yeah, the main menu music is SO GOOD that I was dissapointed no other music in game was memorable and felt too bland.

PGR had anthems, music that elevates the experience. They NEED the composers from PGR to do tracks for WW because while there are a few stand out tracks like Inferno Rider, it doesnt come close to say Hikari or Narwhal.

100% agreed. Especially when making an obvious comparison like Genshin where the music has so much incredible diversity and has a far more confident presence during exploration, combat and story moments...

I would agree, it feels like the audio is mixed weirdly.

I also felt the same thing but I quickly brushed it off as it’s not the same fantasy as Genshin, but I kept getting reminded of that every time I played I was so used to Genshin music that I have to resist to turn on songs just so I could get a bit more excited.

@MrGoodra17

Ай бұрын

The game being fantasy is not an excuse. If I think of Nier Automata I remember most of the ost and immediately associate them to the area they're in

@liandoaethend2403

Ай бұрын

​@@MrGoodra17yeah, Nier Automata being the depressing and very lacking in human stuff idk what to call it story wise, got mind blowing music, like holy sht my ears

@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy

Ай бұрын

Thats true. Genshin is thriving wuth life while wuthering waves is post apocalyptic

@tyrkdlesath

Ай бұрын

wuthering waves is a game who the entire story is about sounds, the minimum is have great ost's but the reality is elevator music.

Idk but i like jinzhou city's theme

Yangyang: speaks Me: and i must say that almost everything i've witnessed has been *C R I N G E*

While I agree it is currently somewhat lacking, if Kuro is able to stay true to their rep, which I believe they will, it will simply take time for the game to fully flesh out its Musical identity.

I haven’t heard a single note in this game when exploring. Sometimes when the battle music starts out of the blue , i finally realise that my game is not on mute

I really hope the music gets better in later versions. I dunno what it is but especially the "hub/city" themes felt kind of weird to me

I absolutely agree. I was so excited to hear the music since Flow and the main menu theme are really good. On the good part, PGR didn't get the iconic songs like Narwhal or the Qu boss theme when the game came out, we had to wait some patches to get the good ones. I hope the case is the same for this game.

@danielwoods3896

Ай бұрын

Is Flow even in the game? Pretty sure it’s just scrapped for whatever reason

It was pretty concerning that you can't hear much BGM at the very start. It being SO QUIET pretty sucks. And I agree. For a game about sounds and stuff. Their OST doesn't feel like anything.

Music is not talked about much in this way, and I’m glad you’re doing it. Music is actually a defining factor for me to consider a game. When the music isn’t interesting I don’t find the rest of the game interesting either. It is vital

Genshin's OST is one of the best I've ever heard. It's an impossibly high bar.

@YuuSouji

Ай бұрын

​​​@@SyLuX636that the reason why ppl like it Orchestra is something never die and can go along with every distinguish culture type music

@johnbertontong5556

Ай бұрын

​@@SyLuX636poor guy try really hard to defend wuwa hahaha

@JustineAndrew

Ай бұрын

​@@SyLuX636 i love wuwa,but you saying you're not impressed by genshin's ost because it's orchestra is just stupid.At this point, you're just hating my guy ✌️😅. And this is coming from from me,a guy who's so bored on playing genshin because there's nothing to do except the abyss (i haven't played genshin since the release of wuwa btw).We should give credits when it's deserved and i think Genshin OST's are great

@MM-kz2vy

Ай бұрын

@@SyLuX636 This guy is trying his best to defend ww under every comments.

@johnbertontong5556

29 күн бұрын

@@SyLuX636 keep dreaming your just a cry baby just because hoyo dont cater you like how that wuwa spoiled players giving free pull. now you hating hoyo with that. Atleast hoyo is not trying hard to get players .Im also a free to play in genshin but its okay if i lose a 50/50 there is a "Rerun" thats the reason why it exist in the first place. I like a game that is fair and square. Game like that who give unlimited free pull is boring.

My music was bugged since 2 days ago and i haven't heard a single track other than start screen ost and loading screen ost.

I need to show this to a friend that called me crazy when I told him that the music was pretty bad.

I've been disappointed by the music so far. There was one point, however, just before a boss fight during the main story quest, where an absolute BANGER starts playing. My first thought was, "Wait till Marco hears this!" 😂 its been the only moment in the game where the music made me stop to listen.

@Il_Capitano_No.1

21 күн бұрын

Wait can you tell me what moment it was

@umbreoniteUwU

21 күн бұрын

@Il_Capitano_No.1 the mech abomination fight! The music to me is pretty different from the other boss fights, in that it has more personality. The fights with other bosses like the Aix and the Heron have cool music, but it's... just electronic music. The mech fight has really cool melodies with intertwining instrumentals like a super retro, twangy guitar, keyboard, and what sounds like xylophone or something

My exact same thoughts, combat /exploration are very fun but a lot on the artistic side leaves a lot to be desired imo, beyond the bland lofi-ish music as soundtrack - visual identity, artistic direction, character design, a lot of it is reminding me of Tower of Fantasy and that's pretty bad. Ironically, ToF had some cool songs going on, in my short experience with it - like the song it plays in the amusement park with the fireworks ("Meant to Be"), I remember actually stopping mid gameplay just to listen and look at the fireworks show, it was pretty iconic. After I stopped playing, they later on released another theme song called "Drifting Away" that is just so beautiful, even better than the first. Stopping to pay attention to the soundtracks hasn't happened yet in WuWa, I really hope they change that in future patches.

In my opinion Wuthering Wave has a very good combat, and 3D characters models, but to me the world building kinda bland and the story for now is kinda plain, also the soundtrack is kinda plain

Absolutely agree. And at many points of the game the music just completely stopped. That was just SO jarring and idk how they could make it like that.

We can only hope. So far I'm enjoying the game, but I do agree with the lack of impactful music on the open world. Always appreciating your insight, Marco 👏🏻

This game literally did the world reveal moment just like Genshin (and a bunch of other open world games) and it was dead silent, followed by a bunch of exposition. It literally hit like a limp fish. It is impossible not to compare to the awe you feel with the music swell and such in other games in the same moment. That was when I knew music wasn't a priority for this game

This is one of the first things I noticed when I started the game, there's instances where there's no music at all and just silence which unless you're playing a horror game doesn't seem like a good choice for drawing players into the atmosphere of the game.

Hello Marco! Sorry for being off topic, will there be any reaction to the latest Genshin Remuria album?

The feeling I got from the music of WuWa vs PGV is similar to DD2 vs DD1.

login music, crownless, and maybe a few other bosses was neat music but for the rest i didnt even realize it was there ngl

I personally like the bgm when exploring but cutscene/combat wise, I haven't really noticed the music now that I've thought about it.

Thank god, here I thought I was going bonkers. Ended up leaving the game after a while and just blasting the Saving Light video (full vocal version of the aforementioned loading screen theme) in the background. A good soundtrack is *the* most crucial part of a game experience for me 😔

The music is blank, the lore is blank, the story is all over the place, the performance is shuttering, the combat is good, but the bad performance ruined it...

@RosalineRoss

27 күн бұрын

是的，除了战斗，一切都很糟糕

@CaeClips

27 күн бұрын

Did you finish the story? it gets lot better later on.

@Andre-0207

18 күн бұрын

@@CaeClips i finished the story and part 5 and 6 didnt improve the experience at all. Just because we get an on-screen death of an unnamed npc, some generic war scenes right and a boss that is essentially Elden Ring's Malenia with a reskin i'd personally refrain from calling it "better"

Also that the music is like Global music, unless there was a certain environmental phenomena, the same throughout every corner, and some different ones but can't really identify the difference much. I do hope they change it on future updates

I literally forgot to appreciate the music in this game but thats because I forgot it existed, I could barely notice it sadly, I just hope they improve it soon

I have hope. especially, the theme from the first cutscene, hit me hard it was beautiful.

I just deleted the game yesterday 😂 the story is just there. And i feel this over kill prizes will make the game even boring because it becomes easier. I gave it a three day trial period and all those time playing it i was sooooo bored. This games lacks immersion which is everything for a good game.

@Johnithinuioian

Ай бұрын

I can strongly relate.

@marvellousbalogun3826

Ай бұрын

​@SyLuX636 Saying Marco is easily impressed is the most laughable thing I've heard. You clearly haven't been watching his channel for long because he criticizes genshin quite a few times. He recently critized there most recent boss ost. Yall wuthering waves fans really starting to be no different from the genshin Fandom you hate so much. Making such quick judgments about a person purely based off the fact that he said something negative about your game. The is white night behavior at its finest.

@aaronyogurt8723

Ай бұрын

@@marvellousbalogun3826 Kuro listened, but their fanbase didnt

@hoobop

Ай бұрын

Yeah, this game is lacking a ton of polish and a lot of people are struggling to get it to run well on their devices. The game is getting roasted in China right now.

@Replies.Delete.SometimesIDKy

Ай бұрын

Im going yo give it more time because i remember genshin didnt really start POPPIN OFF till after dainsleif. Thats when the lore just got SIGNIFICANTLY more interesting so im waiting.

I honestly think the music is fine. I love that the overworld stuff isn't too melodic, I turn off genshin music these days cuz it gets repetetive and interrupts the flow sometimes. I agree tho that Kuro can improve on their boss music.

I completely agree. I was expecting a lot more in terms of music, specially because Sound Waves is the theme of the game. On that note too, I'm getting a bug were soundtrack simply stops playing out of nowhere. Anyone else having the same problem?

Thanks for sharing your honest thoughts on the music. I hope the Dev team see this video and take it as constructive and not in a negative way.

The music isn't the issue, I actually like the music, The bass hitting when you get into combat with the glitchyness of the strings and the piano feels good (I'm playing with IEMs). The game is the issue. It's been altered to suit the complaints of people. The color palette was changed, character [designs] were changed, most likely story bits as well, among other things. So that feeling we got when we listened to "Flow" is gone, because the game isn't that anymore. Guys... stop trying to turn it into Genshin. Please, let Kuro do their thing.

@WickedRayz

Ай бұрын

@@ziebus904 Right, designs. Sorry.

@WickedRayz

28 күн бұрын

@@ziebus904 hmm... If you're not gonna look it up, we don't have to talk. Enjoy your day.

@Kazuki_22

20 күн бұрын

Glad someone noticed it !! A lot just has hoyoverse's biases that's why they were disappointed. They're not looking at Wuthering Waves as it's own thing. Disappointed because it's not in your face with the combat music just like with PGR. Boring because it's not like Genshin/HSR's way of melodic composing. They keep on inserting their biases and warping the identity of this game. They were just so used to those bgm/songs because it has been out for a while. Even making their preferences stronger... That when this game goes out of its way to do its own thing contrary to what they are used to. They exaggeratedly hate it and use that as objective criticism.

@Kazuki_22

20 күн бұрын

If they just stop and feel and listen to the ambient music in the different areas of the overworld. It fits the context.

@eightyeight2379

13 күн бұрын

​@@Kazuki_22It's because WuWa is very hyped, very highly praised by a LOT of CCs and users online. WuWa even released MVs/trailers with banger music but when it came to the in-game, it dipped so hard. And of course, it's an open world game so it should be at least comparable to the games with similar genre such as GI. Post-apocalyptic theme isn't an excuse with the bland music. Just look at Nier

The only thing I like about the game is the gameplay. The story is all over the place, felt like they trying to cramp everything in one go, trying to explain the whole world in one sitting in the beginning I hope in future updates they will include more variety of names. And also the music is... So so, even thou the themes is about music, sound and waves.. I hope in future updates itll be better.

i love that title screen music too, feeling super relatable to what you saying here

There’s some amazing music in the overworld as you progress it. There are side quests that evolve the world-

i would have to agree with you! i’m not familiar with PGR personally, but from what i’ve heard you and other players say the soundtrack there is really good so i’m honestly kinda shocked that Kuro chose such a bland direction for the music in WuWa… like sure the music isn’t bad by any means but nothing has really stood out to me or gotten stuck in my head besides the login screen’s theme :( i hope Kuro will shift gears in the future and give us some cooler music but rn i guess i’ll be doing my exploration on mute and playing my own music :/

@SaraHoshinoVT

Ай бұрын

I haven’t played PGR much, but the game has so many banger songs.

@sajindahal790

Ай бұрын

PGR has an amazing soundtrack that really elevates the boss fights. Lamia and narwhal are among my favourite video game tracks ever, so it's a bummer that the music here is generic and bland.

Where's PGR's BANGER music?

honestly the only tracks that have stuck out to me are like 2 of the ambient tracks but it's kuro I bet they got some stuff in the works

Alright, from what I found out is that Kuro Games was almost broke during the CBTs yue to the adjustments and launch is kinda the aftermath or rather the confirmation for this aswell as the music. The incredible music from PGR is from Vanguard Sound Studios. They did actually make a Menu theme for Wuthering Waves, but it only appeared in one of the CBTs. The resason we dont hear anything else from Vanguard Sound Studios in Wuthering Waves is because of Kuro games funds being put into testing and adjusting etc. But why isnt the Theme we already have from Vamguary Sound Studios not being used? Consistency. It would be very odd to have this one incredible piece in the menu and nothing else on a similar level in the game. So yeah, we either have to wait till they can hire Vanguard Sound Studios...or hope that Kuro Games own Sound Studio theyre currently using gets some epic stuff out on their own.

@arnowisp6244

16 күн бұрын

Yup. People hoping Kuro will return the story from CBT should wake up. They need Money right now so they have to Do the Snowbreak Route. And even after that I doubt they will Rick that Good will in the future. Even so, CBT1 story just wasn't even good. Other Gacha game have stories where the Gacha Characters don't trust the MC for in Lore reason like Path to Nowhere. It's just that we quickly earn there trust. WuWa CBT didn't even give us the Ability to earn the characters trust at all.

@schishne7546

16 күн бұрын

@@arnowisp6244 Alright, you need to elaborate on "People hopinh zo return thr story from CBT" and "The Snowbreak Route" becauae im not sure what you mean here.

wuwa music is so generic atm that i had to use genshin battle ost while combat

Wuwa Menu music >>> Wuwa region music

Hey! Have you ever considered checking out Blue Archive's music?

I remember loading up the game and hearing the login screen ost and thought the music for this game would go hard if this is the base standard. But then I completely forgot about the music while I was playing it because it was so flavorless. Still, I have hopes that it will improve.

What disappointing me is the French translation. There's lot of mistake, missing dialogue.

"Buh, buh ginshin bahd! Wuwu god!" -Some Genshin Hater

I haven't been able to play much from the part in which we meet Baizhi because the game dies on me. I really hope they fix the issues so that I can try it and hopefully they'll add more background music then

The irony is that the Wuthering Waves worldbuilding terms are based on music and sound.

People said i was part of those group with bad taste of music and didnt have knowledge on music when i said i didnt like WuWa music and then u said this sentence, i thought i was being delusional when i said that bruh i got demolished out there😭😭😭 i have 1500 music collection even though im not PROFESSIONAL i can tell music is good or not just by listening to it, people who has huge collection of something always know the quality of something they treasure the most and people cant just understand that.

@Andre-0207

18 күн бұрын

it's not your fault. It's just that a good 90% of Wuthering Waves fans were quite literally baited and bribed with free stuff, and when a gacha game players gets things for doing nothing they will turn into the most loyal defender of said company, going as far as denying any type of problem the game has. Or rather, this is true until a more "generous" game comes out or the situation changes. At that point the sad people I just mentioned will be quick to jump boats without a second thought. They are nothing but gambling addicts with very pathetic standards, that's how i'd describe them.

@evewhoo

14 күн бұрын

⁠@@Andre-0207 I was honestly quite surprised at the game's suboptimal performance on launch and response from the dev considering what I heard about pgr. The bugs, the lack of EN voicing direction, the mid music. To be fair, there are fun aspects to the game such as movement and combat, but things like domain costs and even weirdly high ingredient prices are.... tough. The mistranslations as well. It's like they rushed to release a product that wasn't finished yet so it could start earning revenue.

@Andre-0207

10 күн бұрын

@@evewhoo fully agreed. Popular theory is that they are trying to rush the project as much as they can because Zenless Zone Zero and Genshin Natlan update is upon them. They know they cannot properly compete with the quality of either of the two games in their respective field (open world, story and music for genshin, combat something more for ZZZ) Also i heard that in cbt2 the story was much better.... but the characters didn ot trust rover that much. The chinese community didn't like it and kuro responded by scrapping the story from act 1 to act 4 and rushing a replacement for it.

At least the combat is sick. It's some of the best melee combat in a game I've played ever. The music will get better I'm sure. I think it will be a competitor against Genshin but I doubt it's out to kill the game. I'm sure there will be plenty of people that playboth .

I do hope that the music get better through out the lifetime of the game.

It's been a week now since release, and I keep finding myself going back to the music from the CBT, stuff like the OG menu music or Tianchengs theme - none of which made the final cut. I don't know why all of that music that managed to tell a story through sound alone was simply forgotten and discarded, but it's genuinely such a shame that this game had so much potential and it just... threw it away.