WTF Happened to V? (1983)

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Welcome back to "Gone But Not Forgotten", a show examining your favorite vintage TV, which, despite no longer being on the airwaves, remain in our hearts!
This week, we're taking a look at Kenneth Johnson's "V", which began life as a landmark TV mini-series, before spawning a sequel, "V: The Last Battle", a short-lived series, and a recent remake that only lasted a single season.
As we reveal here, the original show was an allegory for fascism, with some brilliant "shock" moments that rocked audiences to their core in 1983. How does the show hold up? Really well it turns out - especially as far as the original mini-series goes. Check out why!
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  • @JoBloOriginals
    @JoBloOriginals3 жыл бұрын

    Hey folks! If you want us to feature your forgotten TV show send us a email with your suggestions. We may feature it out n a future episode. Our suggestion email is GBNFSeries@gmail.com

  • @helpfulsysops3593

    @helpfulsysops3593

    3 жыл бұрын

    Imagine if foreign powers offer 500 million injections for your chil dren... ??

  • @fabiankaisen5977

    @fabiankaisen5977

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey JoBlo, somehow you triggered all the antivaxx and stolen-election community with your V episode. Political indeed…

  • @centrevezgaming4862

    @centrevezgaming4862

    3 жыл бұрын

    apart from selected Re-runs on the SYFY network

  • @marvenlunn6086

    @marvenlunn6086

    2 жыл бұрын

    Something is out there

  • @fellowcitizen

    @fellowcitizen

    2 жыл бұрын

    Please remove your stormtrooper helmet before recording the voice over :)

  • @robbest6556
    @robbest65563 жыл бұрын

    'They live' and 'V' are my two favourite documentaries

  • @JaeBrown01

    @JaeBrown01

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes.

  • @Warsie-Fan

    @Warsie-Fan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Add DEMOLITION MAN & IDIOCRACY too.

  • @camalbruce2348

    @camalbruce2348

    2 жыл бұрын

    So true

  • @jesseseonza2929

    @jesseseonza2929

    Жыл бұрын

    "ANONYMOUS REX" movie is different take. They already took over the world long ago during the dino Era. They were the superior species back then ( and today) not man They live book story they were Lizards. They made them change it to Goofy skinless aliens. Lizards would have looked cooler..

  • @Mintcar923

    @Mintcar923

    Жыл бұрын

    Build back better

  • @1jotun136
    @1jotun1363 жыл бұрын

    I'm old enough to remember the original series. It was an absolute must watch back in the day.

  • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555

    @lostinpa-dadenduro7555

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely.

  • @stuartbagley2586

    @stuartbagley2586

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah it was!

  • @Rodiraskal

    @Rodiraskal

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same here, I was 13 years old and obsessed with it.

  • @amalshakur

    @amalshakur

    3 жыл бұрын

    yep.

  • @lamueldagon7618

    @lamueldagon7618

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too!

  • @charleyyoho4693
    @charleyyoho4693 Жыл бұрын

    I was absolutely floored by this TV show as a kid. It had everything!! Space ships, lasers, aliens and above all it wasn’t corny and the acting was superb

  • @telengardforever7783
    @telengardforever7783 Жыл бұрын

    When I was a grad student, I was working on a game based on "V". I was in direct communication with Kenneth and he told me the HUGE backstory to "V". Basically, the visitors were at war with an insect race, and the lizards were losing horribly. Not only were their soldiers dying, but resources such as their water and food was depleting. Hence, they came to earth -- for food, water, and human soldiers. You can actually see a hint of this war towards the end of the original "V" in which the human resistance attempts to contact the insect race to inform them the lizards are on earth. In "V The Final Battle", this plot line was abandoned because it was considered too expensive to bring in another major alien race and begin a war on earth. In the original concept by Kenneth, there was no such thing as "the red dust". That was invented by the production company because it was cheaper to film than an all out war with insects on planet earth. One final note: Remember how in the original "V" series they were giving humans military training and uniforms? Yup, that was to prepare them for war against the insects. It wasn't just their "pet" project. Not all humans were destined as food. Kenneth never did say if the insects would have been human allies. For all we know, it could have been a 3-way war between humans, lizards, and insects -- which I guess kinda freaked out the production company who then opted for "the red dust".

  • @jasonthatjason1912

    @jasonthatjason1912

    11 ай бұрын

    That's bascially the novel V - The Second Generation.

  • @leepreston9637

    @leepreston9637

    10 ай бұрын

    Sounds like the USA show Colony stole that back story.

  • @kojak362010

    @kojak362010

    3 ай бұрын

    Yep that was indeed the plot for Kenneth Johnson's follow up novel V The 2nd Generation.

  • @rupturedguts7328

    @rupturedguts7328

    3 ай бұрын

    I never read all of the second generation but didn't they crash the mothership and couldn't save the humans in cryo sleep or something. I'd love to know how they would of are ate us,,asleep,,awake,,piece by piece as wouldn't be whole given are simular heights. Aways crossed my mind and love to know more about the science of the chambers,what was the membrane around them and what kept us in such a state of hibernation.

  • @MickeyKnox
    @MickeyKnox3 жыл бұрын

    I once met Robert Englund at some kind of Comic Con and everyone had the usual Nightmare on Elm Street memorabilia for him to sign ... I was the only one with a V poster and he was so happy to see (and sign) it, that he took 5 minutes talking to me (and loud enough for everyone else in the line) about every one of the main actors and actresses, what they were doing "now" (that was more than 10 years ago) and so on. He was kind of thankful that someone brought something from V ... it was quite an experience. :-)

  • @sha11235

    @sha11235

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you listen to him in Final Battle when he said, "It is true," he sounds like Freddy.

  • @swampfox7110

    @swampfox7110

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am glad you had that experience.

  • @MickeyKnox

    @MickeyKnox

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@swampfox7110 thx

  • @jsthereforfun1648

    @jsthereforfun1648

    3 жыл бұрын

    So wholesome

  • @jonbolton3376

    @jonbolton3376

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's really great. I did a similar thing at a Starp Trek convention, talking to Andrew Robinson about his character in Dirty Harry as well as in Deep Space Nine, which pleased him.

  • @lea-anne9133
    @lea-anne9133 Жыл бұрын

    Robert Englund's character Willie was such a lovely character. Showed how versatile Robert's acting could be. Not just scary nightmare knife man😊

  • @captainahab2485

    @captainahab2485

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I loved him in Friday the 13th 🤭

  • @WondersChannel

    @WondersChannel

    Жыл бұрын

    He's a museum director in Wishmaster - also a nice character (and a first class film).

  • @superunknown8775

    @superunknown8775

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah. Freddy terrified me as a kid - seeing Robert as Willie, knowing it was the same actor - that gave me comfort 😁

  • @shainblair4143

    @shainblair4143

    Жыл бұрын

    Freddy kruger

  • @marlenanapier3186

    @marlenanapier3186

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah he was the best part of V. he is a sweetie, so great as freddie,too.

  • @kittychik7328
    @kittychik7328 Жыл бұрын

    I was 10 when the original miniseries aired, and was instantly obsessed. My friends and I played V, I wrote what is now called fan fiction about V all throughout my teens, and will still watch the entire saga every few years. In the 80s V was a phenomenon!

  • @jamiecurran3544

    @jamiecurran3544

    Жыл бұрын

    I made my own red V costume n my dad riveted a pecie of perspex to the front of my Pro am skateboard helmet!😁😂✌️

  • @MrLondonGo

    @MrLondonGo

    8 ай бұрын

    i was ten and not allowed to watch it

  • @hipperdanhop2877

    @hipperdanhop2877

    8 ай бұрын

    I watched this when i was like 6 or so and i loved it! Where do you watch it?

  • @michellew4637

    @michellew4637

    6 ай бұрын

    My friends and I also played V! I was Lydia

  • @merlin704
    @merlin704 Жыл бұрын

    I LOVED watching this show with my Dad in the 80s. Someone below mentioned that it was like a movement when it aired. People talked about V as if it was really happening. Miss those feelings.

  • @thunderbird66613
    @thunderbird666133 жыл бұрын

    You haven't lived life unless you saw this when it came out. It was like a movement. So awesome

  • @deepzone31

    @deepzone31

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agree. This was an 80s zeitgeist thing for sure.

  • @pat5star

    @pat5star

    3 жыл бұрын

    agreed! This show stuck with me more than any other from my childhood! And that’s saying alot since we had so many good shows back then!!!

  • @skip741x3

    @skip741x3

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh man! I was just in my 20;s when this premiered....Those motherships , miles wide, were awe inspiring back then and even today...nothing like that had ever been portrayed on tv b4 and it was spellbinding! Donovan and tony seeing that 1st ship come in ..whoa!

  • @davidjones3165

    @davidjones3165

    3 жыл бұрын

    I loved it, still do.

  • @joeh.5592

    @joeh.5592

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely!

  • @theshypersistence
    @theshypersistence Жыл бұрын

    Mock it if you will, but that alien baby reveal was truly frightening back in the day lol I was obsessed with the show: from the chilling opening theme to Diana's super villainy. Really formed a big part of growing up in the 80's ✌️🥲

  • @rhoetusochten4211

    @rhoetusochten4211

    Жыл бұрын

    I still can't hear the name Elizabeth without internally translating it as Elizardbreath.

  • @theshypersistence

    @theshypersistence

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rhoetusochten4211 😆😆😆

  • @Camille_Anderson

    @Camille_Anderson

    Жыл бұрын

    i used to love to think i was Diana!! she was a boss!!! lol!

  • @theshypersistence

    @theshypersistence

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Camille_Anderson the OG lol

  • @mrheck5311

    @mrheck5311

    Жыл бұрын

    I saw it when I was about 4. Them peeling their skin off. That freaked me out.

  • @drinkxyz
    @drinkxyz Жыл бұрын

    The original series was fantastic. The theme music with the red V zooming out got it started right. My mom made me a visitor uniform with art supplies for Halloween one year, my all time favorite costume.

  • @darrellmfume4020
    @darrellmfume4020 Жыл бұрын

    ONE of the highest rated mini-series of ALL time. I was 15 when this aired on NBC in the spring of 1983. back at a time/early 80's. when the WHOLE family would watch T.v together. NOT because we wanted to, many families just could only afford ONE T.v set. LOL LOL

  • @telengardforever7783

    @telengardforever7783

    Жыл бұрын

    Back when TV's were expensive and only replaced once every 10 years (and only if they were totally broken down)-- not every two years like now. Also, when a TV was replaced, it wasn't thrown away -- oh no! TVs were then regulated to either being used as a monitor for an 8-bit home computer of the time (like the Commodore 128/64) or for the Atari 2600 or NES.

  • @Art--Deco
    @Art--Deco Жыл бұрын

    The memories! V was frightening, amazing, unnerving, and groundbreaking. I will NEVER forget watching it back in 1983 as a 12 year old, fascinated along with my brother. We we GLUED to the TV and it was all the rage to talk about with friends at school the next day. Those damn lizards gave me nightmares!

  • @kevinknight3606

    @kevinknight3606

    Жыл бұрын

    Good ol,days.

  • @lisaellis2593

    @lisaellis2593

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed! crazy show! Lizard people!

  • @thomasschwab1727

    @thomasschwab1727

    Жыл бұрын

    It was great. I remember it well

  • @jerometruitt2731

    @jerometruitt2731

    Жыл бұрын

    I remember watching it as a kid....I don't remember much but I remember all the adults raving about it

  • @robertbeckman2054

    @robertbeckman2054

    Жыл бұрын

    I was 10: and 11 when watching the two miniseries. It was so engrossing because characters you rooted for were killed off on a regular basis, which was a big contrast to the relatively “safe” settings of Star Wars. The birthing scene at the end of the second night of the final battle was spooky beyond belief. It wasn’t the baby monster that got me, it was the anticipation, the sounds, and that lady’s eyes opening wide. My younger brother who was hiding and peeking behind the couch had had enough and scrammed out of the room.

  • @kevculmstock1
    @kevculmstock12 жыл бұрын

    I was 12 years old when this came out. This show was HUGE at the time. I can still remember some scenes like it was yesterday. Anybody remember the limited tv series Ewoks The Battle for Endor?

  • @Ric9hardify

    @Ric9hardify

    Жыл бұрын

    I was 11, but when I was 9 years old, I saw a UFO that looked exactly like the V mother ships.

  • @gaki8844

    @gaki8844

    Жыл бұрын

    I can still remember you like it was yesterday......

  • @mjolnirswrath23

    @mjolnirswrath23

    Жыл бұрын

    I was 3 and my little sister was One. I remember like yesterday as well then came Rowdy piper in they Live ..what makes you think it's just a TV show?

  • @lueysixty-six7300

    @lueysixty-six7300

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ric9hardify you stupid!🤣

  • @Ric9hardify

    @Ric9hardify

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lueysixty-six7300 because I said the show came out when I was 11, but at 9 I saw a UFO that looked exactly like ships featured in V? I'm not even a UFO nut, but that is what me, my brother and our neighbors saw. Cleveland, Ohio on the corner of E. 148 St. & Valor ave. The part that is funny is that that entire neighborhood is long gone.

  • @imanihodges2566
    @imanihodges2566 Жыл бұрын

    I got to meet Marc Singer, Jane Badler and Robert Englund at a convention in ATL a few years ago. They were all awesome, friendly and engaging!

  • @mccommas2

    @mccommas2

    6 ай бұрын

    Did you see Jane eat any small animals?

  • @michaelhviper
    @michaelhviper Жыл бұрын

    I like some of the scenes with Chamino. He is disgusted with his grandson serving with the visitors and that he wants the girl, so he throws the drink into his face. Also the one where he shows the kids how to use the spray paint on the posters to be in the V shape. "Remember V for victory. Tell your friends." You forgot to mention Martin, Barbara, and the fifth cullomn. The Visitors that are helping the Resitance. That also brought a cool dynamic to the show.

  • @natnut2008
    @natnut20083 жыл бұрын

    The female brunette villain was the standout of the show. She was perfectly casted and stole every scene she was in.

  • @BigBubbaloola

    @BigBubbaloola

    3 жыл бұрын

    That would be "Diana"

  • @Buckeyebob

    @Buckeyebob

    3 жыл бұрын

    jane badler

  • @jbjacobs9514

    @jbjacobs9514

    3 жыл бұрын

    Jane Badler was the bomb!

  • @MrGarrett

    @MrGarrett

    3 жыл бұрын

    One of my first ever crushes

  • @jrag1000

    @jrag1000

    3 жыл бұрын

    She had nothing on Connie Sellecca

  • @sburns2421
    @sburns24213 жыл бұрын

    I remember the human "hitler youth" guy that met his end at the hands of Steven. Steven tells him something like "you will be the last place you can be useful...on a serving platter..." and a couple aliens drag him off with the guy begging Steven. Really chilling.

  • @ShadowSonic2

    @ShadowSonic2

    3 жыл бұрын

    That was Daniel, he was the grandson of the Holocaust survivor.

  • @parcivale

    @parcivale

    2 жыл бұрын

    Daniel was such a weaselly scumbag (this is who Leonard Cimino throws his glass of water into the face of in the video); the kind of worthless tool who would turn in his family for a uniform and a power trip and who has zero respect from the people he works for. Seeing him carried off to the abattoir, knowing that he was going to be served up as porkchops, was very satisfying.

  • @jerrypeacock2234

    @jerrypeacock2234

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@parcivale Daniel got what he deserved.

  • @Squab1972

    @Squab1972

    2 жыл бұрын

    Daniel got what he deserved thanks to Ham Tyler and the resistance.

  • @frarfclin7736

    @frarfclin7736

    Жыл бұрын

    Steven is Elon hint of Musk 🧐 Powered by Atari

  • @MPascolin
    @MPascolin Жыл бұрын

    Well done, this was hysterical took me back to being 11. Michael Ironside played the same exact character in every movie he was in. Seeing Freddie without makeup blew our minds 😂

  • @rhoetusochten4211

    @rhoetusochten4211

    Жыл бұрын

    When you're iconic, might as well run with it!

  • @sexgod57able
    @sexgod57able Жыл бұрын

    One of my all time favorites. The re-make was just so-so.

  • @charleslebi7297
    @charleslebi72973 жыл бұрын

    The series scared the living daylights out of me as a kid. The creators of the series didn't hold back on the body horror at all.

  • @Leppymusic

    @Leppymusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha... Just posted a comment saying the same. The whole series and specially the lizards scared the hell out of me... Everytime I watched the intro I'd leave the room 🤣

  • @Leppymusic

    @Leppymusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah... And the rat eating as well

  • @juniorjames7076

    @juniorjames7076

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was in the 3rd grade, and everyone was going berserk in the schoolyard the next morning, talking about the lizard face reveals and the "lizard tongue"!! My math homework was not going to get done the following night for Part 2, consequences be damned! ha ha ha I think this was the first mini-series I ever watched and it left a huge impact.

  • @bluepeopledonotexistblackp7001

    @bluepeopledonotexistblackp7001

    2 жыл бұрын

    They were sending you blatant messages in the show that’s why.

  • @camalbruce2348

    @camalbruce2348

    2 жыл бұрын

    You'd be even more scared to find out that they actually exsist for real

  • @mrmeerkat1096
    @mrmeerkat10963 жыл бұрын

    That scene where the woman gives birth to a lizard baby freaked me out as a kid.

  • @rickmoskal2458

    @rickmoskal2458

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lizard baby!!!!!!

  • @clar1ty620

    @clar1ty620

    3 жыл бұрын

    this was exactly the scene and thought that came to me when i saw this vid pop-up. And i paused for a few seconds before clicking on it lol. Ah, sweet child-hood trauma.

  • @shadowgam3

    @shadowgam3

    3 жыл бұрын

    Isn't that the part on how the Humans figure out how to defeat the Lizard people? Then they use the compound on the father to see if it works. It was the women that was raped by the lizard people. That killed him if I'm correct.

  • @philipenos2930

    @philipenos2930

    3 жыл бұрын

    The first time they ate a guinea pig freaked me out as a kid.

  • @greecoboost

    @greecoboost

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same. Now that I saw it again, just as Jesse said, I laughed my ass off.

  • @captainahab2485
    @captainahab2485 Жыл бұрын

    I watched the original show and it blew my mind. I recently showed it to my kids and they loved it too.

  • @mcruz2357
    @mcruz2357 Жыл бұрын

    I saw this as an 8 year old. I recall being so devastated when the alien twin child had an allergic reaction to her sister & died. My sister has always been my best friend and the thought of being the cause of her death was devastating. Edit to add: I was also uneasy that the adults in the show did not seem to feel significant sorrow at the child's death.

  • @earlmcraw5606
    @earlmcraw56063 жыл бұрын

    I was born 1983 I’ve been screwed from the start. This plot sounds exactly what is going on today in 2021.

  • @jasonthatjason1912

    @jasonthatjason1912

    3 жыл бұрын

    This movie is how a lot of us knew to watch out for this situation.

  • @lycan052

    @lycan052

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your absolutely right about that

  • @Cahoo.U

    @Cahoo.U

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup.

  • @camalbruce2348

    @camalbruce2348

    2 жыл бұрын

    Its truth in plain sight the reptilians are real and they live deep underground beneath us

  • @HunterBidenCocaineBag

    @HunterBidenCocaineBag

    Жыл бұрын

    Never trust the Visitors (Government) who promise you "vaccines" for a virus they created. NEVER!

  • @finflwr
    @finflwr3 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't be surprised if this is going to be how 2021 turns out.

  • @TheBelrick

    @TheBelrick

    3 жыл бұрын

    When your screaming daughter is pinned down to be genetically altered against the parents will using a vaccine out of china to fight a genetically altered virus that came out of a lab in china?

  • @JohnDoe-yi4xd

    @JohnDoe-yi4xd

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's all just a ploy to attack Christians, but what they don't know is that we know what they are up to...and America is not Europe. All the Secularists have to do is push too hard and you are going to see Christians of all stripes join forces.

  • @goudagirl6095

    @goudagirl6095

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBelrick Yeah. Pretty much like that. :-\

  • @darkgnome666

    @darkgnome666

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JohnDoe-yi4xd lol

  • @JNJG1999

    @JNJG1999

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JohnDoe-yi4xd Oh please. You people only scream your being persecuted when you aren't allowed to persecute and oppress others. "Christians of all stripes join forces." Ha, don't make me laugh. You people are too busy fighting over which of a billion denominations has "the truth" and which ones are the occult or devil worshippers.

  • @rayfincham1595
    @rayfincham1595 Жыл бұрын

    I loved this show, I had all the paper book back books too when they came out. I was saddened to see this fine show to end so abruptly but here is to hoping that V could make a comeback.

  • @TonyCannoli73

    @TonyCannoli73

    7 ай бұрын

    I had all the books too. In those days that was the only real home media we had (unless it repeated and could be taped). I shared this series with my kids when they were young and couldn’t believe what a great storyline it was/is. Someday I hope they could do it even more justice.

  • @Svensk7119
    @Svensk7119 Жыл бұрын

    I remember that picture. The skull buried in the foreground with the ship hovering in the background! An excellent piece of foreshadowing! It, to me, was the most memorable single instant from that entire series! Also, I think this was the beginning of the tradition of giving Michael Ironside at least a cameo in your sci-fi.

  • @jimwolfgang9433
    @jimwolfgang94333 жыл бұрын

    I was 7 or maybe 8 when this was aired in the UK and couldn't believe it when my Mum let me stay up and watch it. Always remember the hamster scene and lizard reveal! So good

  • @Gauri31058

    @Gauri31058

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! All these people calling it a rat - when `its clearly a long haired hamster.

  • @donZeriouS

    @donZeriouS

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ah yeah, I don't remember when it aired in Germany, but I remember this series being captivating as a child!

  • @desibetancourt8816

    @desibetancourt8816

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nope, hated it then when i was a small child and now. The lizard reveal is what scared me as a small child.

  • @coryl6548

    @coryl6548

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here in Canada. I was 9 at the time.

  • @w1975b

    @w1975b

    Жыл бұрын

    I was the same age and remember that my mother and I watched the mini-series and show together. We also watched Other World, which aired in 1985.

  • @Kthomasritchie
    @Kthomasritchie3 жыл бұрын

    Jesus, Jane Badler was hot.

  • 3 жыл бұрын

    In Mission Impossible as well for sure.

  • @dawgbarklay255

    @dawgbarklay255

    3 жыл бұрын

    She still is! And a great singer too

  • @mrcat3493

    @mrcat3493

    3 жыл бұрын

    Her and Faye Grant were both smoking

  • @Kthomasritchie

    @Kthomasritchie

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mrcat3493 Defiantly

  • @GaryGoRound-to7ld

    @GaryGoRound-to7ld

    3 жыл бұрын

    if she wrapped her legs around my head and snapped my neck I'd die a happy man

  • @joetuktyyuktuk8635
    @joetuktyyuktuk8635 Жыл бұрын

    I remember this when I was a kid... one of the scenes that stuck with me the most, involved a human betraying his own kind in order to free his wife, whom the V's had "arrested". After doing what they wanted, he was shocked when he was arrested himself. "Wait, wait... you said you would let my wife go, that we would be together by dinner time" "You misunderstood me, what I said was, the two of you would be together.... for dinner" 😋

  • @jamiecurran3544

    @jamiecurran3544

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for reminding me!😱😂✌️

  • @X7393
    @X7393 Жыл бұрын

    You can’t replace these original classic tv shows! I was 9 years old when this popped up on tv! Classic stuff👍🏻

  • @CelineNoyce
    @CelineNoyce3 жыл бұрын

    V was an amazing series. Both Kenneth Johnson and Brandon Tartikoff were right to think kids of that generation couldn't believe "why we fight" because at that time it just wasn't something that seemed like it could happen. The idea of having them be aliens really worked. I just wish it was on streaming services so the current generation could learn these lessons.

  • @skyscreamstudios
    @skyscreamstudios3 жыл бұрын

    I have the entire series on DVD. Love this show. It's just nuts. lol.

  • @jbjacobs9514

    @jbjacobs9514

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too and the movies!

  • @LeviAckerman-cb5ji

    @LeviAckerman-cb5ji

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too! I even bought the 19 episode season, even though I wasn't crazy about it.

  • @Seify1000

    @Seify1000

    3 жыл бұрын

    I still have them on VHS...I don't own a VHS player anymore though...D'oh!

  • @mr.2cents.846

    @mr.2cents.846

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am thinking of getting it on DVD and researching it again.

  • @skyscreamstudios

    @skyscreamstudios

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mr.2cents.846 Totally worth it in my opinion. I'm biased though. I was a 16 year old who immediately fell in love with Jane Badler when the mini-series aired. 😁

  • @toodlescae
    @toodlescae Жыл бұрын

    Man I remember waiting for each episode to see what happened next as a 22 year old. My other favorite mini-series was North & South.

  • @johnhagen4368
    @johnhagen4368 Жыл бұрын

    I was a baby when it came out but fascinated by it, when the remake came out i was psyched and then crushed when it cancelled. So many good shows all over the years just cancelled.

  • @ral3514
    @ral35143 жыл бұрын

    V was the best, I remember being 9 and losing my mind if I thought there was a chance I could miss an episode

  • @razif6916
    @razif69163 жыл бұрын

    The rat eating scene stayed in my head for almost 40years...

  • @jokerate3521

    @jokerate3521

    3 жыл бұрын

    I never eat a rat whole. You never know how much of a number two it has inside it.

  • @ptah4000

    @ptah4000

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thats all we talked about at school lol

  • @V3N8MOUS

    @V3N8MOUS

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here...whenever I see a trailer of V or someone speaking about the V series, I keep thinking about her grabbing by the tail and putting it in her mouth. That scene is so cemented in my mind.

  • @littlegp18

    @littlegp18

    Жыл бұрын

    Me too. That and the baby human with the forked tongue. Don't remember much else

  • @dennismartin5821
    @dennismartin5821 Жыл бұрын

    Watched it when I was kid. Never thought that it would turn out to be a true story.

  • @aajr6739
    @aajr6739 Жыл бұрын

    When I was child in the 90s my mom bought this on tape man it was good 👍.

  • @ashroskell
    @ashroskell3 жыл бұрын

    When I first saw this show, I was going through puberty, and I wasn’t old enough to figure out why it occupied my thoughts so much. It both haunted and inspired me, and was the game I wanted to play with my friends, all the time. It was the writing. So glad you did this one. The stir of echoes was all I needed to bring it all back for me. Such great writing and such great (for its day) action and special effects. How could a pre-teen NOT love this? And, oh Diana . . . Her wedding with Charles, at the time of the Royal Wedding, kept them in the headlines. But, I lost a lohhhht of sleep over Diana 😉✌️👍. Thank you

  • @celt67
    @celt673 жыл бұрын

    I was 12 when this came out. It was absolutely massive and dominated everything. The entire household would gather to watch it.

  • @leeannturner494
    @leeannturner494 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for taking the time to make this video. I had the original V & new V on dvd & I loved them so much

  • @MrMe4444444
    @MrMe4444444 Жыл бұрын

    I did not receive the network this was on as a kid. I remeber kids at school talking about it. Sounded awesome.

  • @VespoLiveGaming
    @VespoLiveGaming3 жыл бұрын

    Michael Ironside basically played the same character in "Total Recall" and it was still awesome.

  • @DJ_Force

    @DJ_Force

    3 жыл бұрын

    He always plays the same character, and is always awesome!

  • @zebra3519

    @zebra3519

    3 жыл бұрын

    Spot on. Brilliant actor. Watch Scanners.

  • @keanueraine

    @keanueraine

    3 жыл бұрын

    I always said if I won bonkers money like Florida state lottery or something, that I would make my own movie and it would fucking star Michael Ironside. Easily my favorite 80s actor

  • @juniorjames7076

    @juniorjames7076

    3 жыл бұрын

    In the 1980s, I always got Micheal Ironside, John Saxon and Kurtwood Larson Smith confused. Was it just me? But Micheal Ironside plays Micheal Ironside in every movie, and he's awesome.

  • @Squab1972

    @Squab1972

    3 жыл бұрын

    His character Ham Tyler was perfect for him.

  • @ExcelsiorTech
    @ExcelsiorTech3 жыл бұрын

    Found the DVDs to the original mini-series at a garage sale. I got so exited and ripped them to my plex server immediately. Love this series. Bonus fact observation. I think that ID4 took direct inspiration from the opening ship reveal sequence from V. Watch them back to back and it is striking.

  • @lamarravery4094

    @lamarravery4094

    Жыл бұрын

    Independence Day totally ripped off V with the mother ships.

  • @curtismoore6757
    @curtismoore675711 ай бұрын

    Very nice review, I grew up watching all episodes of "v" on TV. Very nice memories. Thank you!

  • @alrives
    @alrives Жыл бұрын

    I actually got goosebumps remembering this show. Great job!

  • @pmcomputing2459
    @pmcomputing2459 Жыл бұрын

    I remember watching V when I was a kid and excitedly talking about episodes with my friends at school.

  • @tangelanunley6079
    @tangelanunley60792 жыл бұрын

    I remember the movie and the show. The 80s were phenomenal

  • @thatsaltylife9855

    @thatsaltylife9855

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah they were awesome.. now I’m 47 and most people sicken me lol

  • @emeraldfox7175

    @emeraldfox7175

    Жыл бұрын

    The best of times luv!

  • @elatomala1976

    @elatomala1976

    Жыл бұрын

    Seems we can learn a lot now from what happened in the show.

  • @muaddib7685
    @muaddib7685 Жыл бұрын

    I was a kid when this came out and loved the mini series so much. Don't forget about Alien Nation too...

  • @eugeneshadwell6596
    @eugeneshadwell6596 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video, loved this show as a kid. Slight correction here - Lydia was played by June Chadwick, Lane Smith played Nathan Bates. Love this series of videos, please keep them coming!

  • @theflickchick9850
    @theflickchick98502 жыл бұрын

    I didn't exist in the 80s or 90s. I'm still quite young. I legit just watched V because I wanted to watch something with Robert Englund in it that wasn't hardcore horror. And I got hooked right in. It's one of my favourite shows now! I even have Funko Pops and one of the comics. I am constantly trying to convince people my age to watch it too because it's so much fun, so dark, and...so relevant.

  • @bellamamma767
    @bellamamma7673 жыл бұрын

    Abrahams wife was taken to the “showers with no water” that line got me, but he scene where his daughter in law was reading the letter he left behind when the visitors took him had me bawling! That was good acting!

  • @veevintage2619
    @veevintage2619 Жыл бұрын

    For some reason my folks allowed me to watch this when I was 8. It was the scariest, coolest, most amazing thing I had seen then. I remember the original premise of this show and I loved it!!

  • @bentillotson8241
    @bentillotson8241 Жыл бұрын

    I used to watch this on my little black and white TV, it scared the hell out of me it was great

  • @dustindarbone8415
    @dustindarbone84153 жыл бұрын

    It has always reminded me of “They Live”. If you haven’t seen that movie I would suggest checking it out.

  • @hostilegraveyard2849

    @hostilegraveyard2849

    3 жыл бұрын

    FIRST WAVE on SYFY. 'nuff said.

  • @veganleigh4817

    @veganleigh4817

    3 жыл бұрын

    "I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass.......and I'm all outta bubblegum". I love, love, LOVE, Rowdy Roddy Piper!

  • @mikehunt4986

    @mikehunt4986

    3 жыл бұрын

    So now you see that "They Live" was probably influenced by "V."

  • @mandisaw

    @mandisaw

    2 жыл бұрын

    I saw V as it aired as a kid, didn't catch They Live until college. But both are great in their own ways, the same way both 1984 and Fahrenheit 451 look at similar subjects, from different angles.

  • @VolkXue

    @VolkXue

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mikehunt4986 John Carpenter said They Live was kinda inspired by crazy Reagan era nutjobs and how the world was going with them

  • @andrewobanor7978
    @andrewobanor79783 жыл бұрын

    V series, scared the shit out of me

  • @matthallett4126

    @matthallett4126

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm here to write the same thing.

  • @LeviAckerman-cb5ji

    @LeviAckerman-cb5ji

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ever watch the series, and not the miniseries? It was so lazy, with the constant reuse of footage. Some of it didn't even match.

  • @Ogrelord5150

    @Ogrelord5150

    3 жыл бұрын

    As a kid, the lizard reveal definietly spooked me. As an adult, the fascist themes and seeing our country today definitely makes you worrisome.

  • @LeviAckerman-cb5ji

    @LeviAckerman-cb5ji

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Ogrelord5150 You're absolutely right.

  • @LeviAckerman-cb5ji

    @LeviAckerman-cb5ji

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Nathan White I was thinking about that earlier. If we all decided to band together and defy the shutdown, the Government would have zero chance. But because so many of us are just willing to take what they and the media say as gospel, there are so few left to stand up to the swamp.

  • @silsahchne7236
    @silsahchne7236 Жыл бұрын

    80's and 90's had some of the most imaginative television and movies. I miss those days.

  • @Booper1978

    @Booper1978

    Жыл бұрын

    Imaginative 😆 🤣 😂.

  • @Cocoatreat
    @Cocoatreat Жыл бұрын

    This show was awesome!! I watched all the shows & the series……i was sad to see when it was cancelled. I was a big Marc singer fan! Thank you for the commentary and the wonderful memories…..i thought i was the only one!

  • @schizoidboy
    @schizoidboy3 жыл бұрын

    I think it is important to remember that any totalitarian government is always going to promise more than it is going to deliver, regardless of whether we "call" it fascist or not. Orwell pointed out how recklessly the term was thrown around in his time. For me the key word is totalitarian where whatever government had complete control over it's people. Jefferson said it best: "The government that governs best, governs least." Keep that in mind and you'll figure it out.

  • @jerrypeacock2234

    @jerrypeacock2234

    2 жыл бұрын

    If Orwell was around today he would be all,, com'on people I warned you about this.

  • @brucesnow7125

    @brucesnow7125

    2 жыл бұрын

    Was that after or before he was raping his slave?

  • @schizoidboy

    @schizoidboy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@brucesnow7125 I don't know, I'd have to ask Sally Hemmings if she thought it was rape.

  • @andrewmorris6187

    @andrewmorris6187

    Жыл бұрын

    Hints of the WEF.

  • @cjh7234
    @cjh72343 жыл бұрын

    Loved this show as a kid lol man I wish the 80's never passed ,such a fun time!

  • @Ash-gc6kj
    @Ash-gc6kj Жыл бұрын

    I watched this as a kid with my mom in the 80s. It was a big hit!

  • @MrBlair56
    @MrBlair56 Жыл бұрын

    This show scared the absolute shit out of me. My dad still talks about it.

  • @fakshen1973
    @fakshen19733 жыл бұрын

    The sound of the guns was the best part for me. Good sci-fi has iconic sounds. The THWWWWOOOOOM of the lasers was unlike percussive laser zaps of the past.

  • @carsonjamesiv2512
    @carsonjamesiv25123 жыл бұрын

    MAN, this is still one of my Favorite Shows Of All TIME!!😃😀😎😎

  • @johnsonger4613
    @johnsonger4613 Жыл бұрын

    I remember going shopping with my father for our first VCR so he wouldn't have to miss one of the episodes of the first miniseries. So V was the first show my family ever recorded.

  • @MrLou345
    @MrLou345 Жыл бұрын

    This was a great mini series and the effects both visually and on the audio side were cool.

  • @roodbennett
    @roodbennett Жыл бұрын

    I watched V in the early '90s. I remember having the flu but my Mum was such a fangirl of the show, she got me up at midnight to watch the rebroadcast in our area. LOL good memories

  • @sethzwicker3631
    @sethzwicker36313 жыл бұрын

    What also was fairly unique about the series is that it was serialized. It didn't hit the reset button at the end of every single episode. They were doing actual longform storytelling which is commonplace today but unheard of then.

  • @dilbertfirestorm4851

    @dilbertfirestorm4851

    Жыл бұрын

    good point. most of the 1980's shows were episodic and were one off stories without any linking threads from previous episodes. this form didn't come again until the late 1990's with the airing of the Babylon 5 series.

  • @crystalkappel7032
    @crystalkappel7032 Жыл бұрын

    When this came out I was 7 or 8 and I can remember being terrified and excited all the way through the miniseries! I made sure to plan my life around that show. Remember we didn't have dvrs or pay per view back then lol.

  • @clopper3753

    @clopper3753

    Жыл бұрын

    Same. We did not even have cable at that time. Just an antenna on the roof with the classic "snow on the screen"... I remember my father bought a Betamax video player and recorder, and i think tapes of the original broadcast are still at my parents house in the attic somewhere. Even in later years, when i was talking with my father while he was alive, and we came to the topics of Tv and Movies etc.. He would just say randomly.... "Man that V show was really damn great"...

  • @abutrug

    @abutrug

    8 ай бұрын

    you had a vhs with cable remote. that would make it not a remote hahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahhahhahahaahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahah so did i

  • @Dragon-Lady
    @Dragon-Lady Жыл бұрын

    I have loved V since it first came out. Ham Tyler was and still is my favorite character on the show. It also introduced me to Michael Ironside, who remains my favorite actor to this day.

  • @JabbaTheSlut220175
    @JabbaTheSlut2201753 жыл бұрын

    "They're after the _water!"_ I remember this show well, it was great.

  • @LeviAckerman-cb5ji

    @LeviAckerman-cb5ji

    3 жыл бұрын

    At least they didn't make them vulnerable to water like that movie Signs. That made zero sense.

  • @EggBastion

    @EggBastion

    3 жыл бұрын

    ya gotta put the exclamation and quotation marks inside the underscores KZread's comment formatting is _quite_ stupid *like zo* > "They're after the _water!"_ or leave a space thus > "They're after the _water_ !"

  • @JabbaTheSlut220175

    @JabbaTheSlut220175

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@EggBastion Thanks buddy!

  • @anthonyparkernearlifeexp
    @anthonyparkernearlifeexp3 жыл бұрын

    I loved this show so much as a kid. As an adult, I rewatched the tv series that ended in a cliff hanger, and certainly noticed they were running out of money. Not only did they reuse scenes of ships flying, but they used the exact same scene of Willie running from a scene of a dramatic occurrence twice. Also in the later episodes, there were more than a few that didn't have many of the main actors as if they were trying to save money on actor salary. Still we were devastated to never learn what happened after Elizabeth, the star child stowed away on the ship heading back to the V home world.

  • @Stadsjaap
    @Stadsjaap Жыл бұрын

    I rewatched this recently and it still stands up. Definitely worth a look.

  • @kurisutofusan
    @kurisutofusan3 жыл бұрын

    I find that V feels like "they live".

  • @Dmiller7239

    @Dmiller7239

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree in some ways in does

  • @JJ-fq4nl

    @JJ-fq4nl

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s the 80’s. They Live was the movie version of the similar plot that was shortened while V was the extended version.

  • @selenepickins4874

    @selenepickins4874

    3 жыл бұрын

    They Live, ya gotta love some Rowdy Roddy Piper. "I have come here to chew bubble gum & kick ass.....and I'm all out of bubble gum!" Loved it and V

  • @catvideojogos

    @catvideojogos

    3 жыл бұрын

    They Live WE sleep

  • @wikhalldotcom

    @wikhalldotcom

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@selenepickins4874 - Roddy Piper appeared in an episode in the 2nd series, check IMDB for details.

  • @move_i_got_this5659
    @move_i_got_this56593 жыл бұрын

    This was a huge hit back then, Americans were glued to the TV watching this mini series and we loved it. 8)

  • @grahamtaylor8912

    @grahamtaylor8912

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was the same in the UK..

  • @pat5star

    @pat5star

    3 жыл бұрын

    and canada!

  • @JK-Visions

    @JK-Visions

    3 жыл бұрын

    we in holland also

  • @metatechnologist
    @metatechnologist Жыл бұрын

    One of the few series that had a perfect ending imo. The lizards got their due and the world celebrated.

  • @TokyoXtreme

    @TokyoXtreme

    Жыл бұрын

    Here’s hoping the battle against the real lizard people turns out as well.

  • @monsyd913
    @monsyd913 Жыл бұрын

    I freaking LOVED watching this as a kid and SQUEALED when my mom got me the mini series and tv show on DVD a few years ago 😁

  • @gizzykatkat9687
    @gizzykatkat96873 жыл бұрын

    I was a fan of V back then and I still love it now!

  • @deezhole
    @deezhole2 жыл бұрын

    I was 11 whenever this show aired and I remember everyone talking about it. The conversation started on my school bus then went all day. My friends were spray painting a big red V on everything. The birth of the goulie lizard baby really stood out in my mind, I remember it looking so much more real and freaky, but I was ELEVEN YEARS OLD. Crazy how your mind remembers things from when we were kids. I did thinm

  • @phillipblount5541
    @phillipblount5541 Жыл бұрын

    7 years old when this first aired, and honestly scared to death at the time.

  • @anfieldlegend
    @anfieldlegend Жыл бұрын

    discovered your content this afternoon and have been binge watching since. excellent

  • @francescathomas3502
    @francescathomas35022 жыл бұрын

    40 years later and I can still remember that line. "Don't you see? They have to stay, or we won't have learned a thing!!" Very powerful words!!! I actually really liked both miniseries, including the "Red Dust" ending and celebrations, and the delivery system via hot air balloons. Remember those? But I never could get into the TV series at all so I missed most of that. And what I saw of the 2009 reboot, I did not like at all. The characters of the Miniseries are what drew me to that program. All the later stuff had completely different characters.

  • @jamsim67

    @jamsim67

    Жыл бұрын

    I liked the 2009 series. To me, it wasn't a remake. Visitors just kind of showing their face to the world at large.

  • @valecrassus7835

    @valecrassus7835

    Жыл бұрын

    The series was a real disappointment compared to the two miniseries. I mean, it had its moments, but the quality took a huge nose dive especially in later episodes.

  • @lea-anne9133
    @lea-anne9133 Жыл бұрын

    I have this entire series on dvd and I love it so much!!!

  • @emeraldfox7175

    @emeraldfox7175

    Жыл бұрын

    Where'd you get it luv? Would love to add it to my collection, thanks

  • @davidgoehner7650
    @davidgoehner7650 Жыл бұрын

    This was probably mentioned by one of the other 3,300 previous comments, but -- in the weekly TV series -- the female character named Lydia was not portrayed by the male actor named Lane Smith. Lydia was portrayed by June Chadwick. Lane Smith played Nathan Bates.

  • @jenofire8724
    @jenofire87242 ай бұрын

    I was a little girl when this series came out, but I’ll never forget some of the scenes from it. It stuck with me throughout my life, and I’ve rewatched it many times, just for some of these scenes. I didn’t even understand much of what was going on, but still - I was just transfixed by this show.

  • @gdwnet
    @gdwnet3 жыл бұрын

    This series needs a PROPER reboot. The original was amazing, great music, great cast, good story, loved the ships, the weapon sounds - everything. It was an ambitious TV show that worked.

  • @Kthomasritchie

    @Kthomasritchie

    3 жыл бұрын

    It had one.

  • @gdwnet

    @gdwnet

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Kthomasritchie No, it had a reboot. I said a proper reboot, i.e. one that treats the material seriously and no the fucking farce that the reboot was.

  • @Kthomasritchie

    @Kthomasritchie

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gdwnet Yeah, I never watched it.

  • @Gliese380

    @Gliese380

    3 жыл бұрын

    if the original was amazing then it doesn't need a reboot, does it

  • @matthewronson5218

    @matthewronson5218

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Gliese380 It certainly would, if it included a budget that would result in a script that respected for the source material and allowed for more than a 1980's 'made for TV' level of special effects. Battlestar Galactica comes to mind as an example of a cheesy TV series whose budget would not allow it to reach its full potential, until its reboot series was updated across the board and re-launched.

  • @scootertart
    @scootertart3 жыл бұрын

    I loved this show in the 80's when it was first shown on UK TV, it introduced me to Michael Ironside and his cool anti-hero character Ham Tyler.

  • @commonsenseking6386

    @commonsenseking6386

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agree, I always thought of Ham Tyler and his associate Chris Farber were cool and also reminded me of Han Solo and Chewbacca.

  • @scootertart

    @scootertart

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@commonsenseking6386 Yes, always a cool double act, Chris was the technical support with the Teflon coated ammo for his Mac -10 and the plastic explosives and seemed a top dude.

  • @royallison5307

    @royallison5307

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@scootertart He also did great appearances on " Home Improvement".

  • @MrJacMac1968

    @MrJacMac1968

    Жыл бұрын

    Ham was like Avon played by Paul Darrow in Blakes 7

  • @mistydevillier2197
    @mistydevillier2197 Жыл бұрын

    I can't believe I'm seeing this. I used to watch this show all the time.

  • @asakarlsson6890
    @asakarlsson6890 Жыл бұрын

    I LOVED this series!!!!! I was 7 years old and watched it with my mum and dad!!!

  • @edsmith4821
    @edsmith48213 жыл бұрын

    This hit show was on before satellite TV so everyone watched it prime time

  • @matthewdunham1689
    @matthewdunham16893 жыл бұрын

    A timeless classic that definitely resonates today. (Sadly)

  • @colemanblack
    @colemanblack Жыл бұрын

    Man I loved V. As an 8 year old, I was Uber impressed. Still am. Thanks for bringing it back!

  • @randee4550
    @randee4550 Жыл бұрын

    This was the first miniseries, I've ever got into, decades before Netflix existed.

  • @mrcat3493
    @mrcat34933 жыл бұрын

    V was and still is great. I rewatched the miniseries over the summer. It still holds up.

  • @thomasn3882

    @thomasn3882

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry but it does not hold up in any way. I like nostalgia too, but take off the rose colored glasses.

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot3 жыл бұрын

    Robert Englund I remember him in V. V kind of reminds you of a extended version of The Twilight Zone episode ,To Serve Man.

  • @CBF5star

    @CBF5star

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's exactly where it came from.

  • @johnellizz

    @johnellizz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CBF5star Not really, bruh. V came from an earlier novel called "Childhood's End" in which Reptilian aliens arrive on Earth in giant flying saucers that loom over cities. The Reptilians conceal their identities from the humans but promise to deliver a utopian paradise to everyone. Now that I describe it I take it back...it sounds nothing like V.

  • @MrAudienceMember2662015

    @MrAudienceMember2662015

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johnellizz Childhoods End...interesting show. Visiting aliens did resolve all the ills of earth but the cost was very high. No babies after a certain date which was hidden until too late. Finding out what the alien looked like was an epic delay that worked out well.

  • @johnellizz

    @johnellizz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrAudienceMember2662015 The only difference from V was that they aliens didn't eat humans they just exterminated us haha.

  • @GSXK4

    @GSXK4

    3 жыл бұрын

    I remember his name was "Just" and he was one of the good lizards 🦎

  • @richiesimons4403
    @richiesimons44039 ай бұрын

    I remember watching the original 2 as a kid. Absolutely brilliant.

  • @remnantchild4357
    @remnantchild4357 Жыл бұрын

    I watched V when I was a kid....in 2022 I look at this movie with a whole new set on lenses ....truth is stranger than fiction 🤔.

  • @prowlingfrost5588

    @prowlingfrost5588

    11 ай бұрын

    There was a mystical aura around that show even in the 80s. Can't explain. Like they were trying to say something people wasnt ready to get.

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