Glad it wasn’t worse. Mine not so much. Dometic fridge caused mine. Fire Chief said it was the fridge also. I lost everything. Look at the ammonia tank. If it’s rusted then the metal failed from the inside. Had an attorney look that handles class action lawsuits against Norcool and Dometic. He looked at the pictures of mine and said without a doubt the cause. There was a lawsuit against the manufacturers but it was thrown out. I believe it has been resubmitted.

@ktoutdoor

Жыл бұрын

So sorry for your loss But thank you for contributing your story. I have sense got rid of our Norcold and installed a residential fridge and its working great for us. Here is a video of how I did it. kzread.info/dash/bejne/daeGwceimK7QlNY.html

@jeffbranch5078

Жыл бұрын

We were going to do that conversion also. Waited too long. These types of refrigerators systems should not be used. It doesn’t matter how you power them. It’s just a matter of time. Ours was from 2010 but we purchased the trailer in 2020 from a dealer who went through the unit and found no faults or issues in the system. We used it for about a year and a half.

Thanks Kevin. Very good presentation! I have a Norcold N842, vintage 2006. Last summer, it would not keep cool with the propane. However, with the electric switched on it worked fine. At the time, we were traveling cross country. We heard about JC Refrigeration in Shipshewana IN. We made it an appointment with them and they replaced our cooling coil behind our fridge. Their coils are oversized, and now our fridge is very efficient. We do a lot of dry camping and prefer the absorbent fridge. However, the compressor models are gaining popularity with RVers, especially if you have solar (and getting away from the hazards of propane). Your video has made me feel more comfortable about switching to the compressor models. I’m forwarding this video lesson to my friends.

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

Dave i would love to talk to you about your conversion you had done .. text or call my cell phine 606-875-0125 Kevin

I put fan that blows across the back of the Refrigerator. They have a kit that replace all the junk on the back

Wow great video Kevin. Thank you for the heads up. I have the same exact unit in an 04.

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. If you ever have any questions my cell is 606-875-0125 Kevin.

Thx Kevin!

Wow! Thanks for sharing.

Good let me see how you put it in . Thanks

We have the 2 door in ours .

My brother had a 1200 Norcold in his RV(2008) and about 3 years ago his Norcold 1200 leaked all the amonia out and of course it quit. No fire, it just died. A new one was around 4,000.00. So he went to Lowes or Home Depot and bought a Magic Chef 10 cu' residential refrigerator for around 3-400.00, and It worked great for about a year then quit. He was running it on a modified sine wave inverter and the owners manual for the frig says you must use a pure sine wave inverter if running on an inverter. So he bought another one and a pure sine wave inverter and hasn't had any more issues. My wife and I have one just like it currently being used in our garage that will replace the 2003 10 cu' Domestic in our RV (which still works great). We run our Domectic frig on a modified sine wave inverter while traveling. Those proteng fire suppression systems would be a good idea for engine bay(diesel pusher), electric bay, and refrigerator compartment. They aren't cheap that's for sure but then neither is losing everything you've got. Thanks for posting. Found your channel after seeing a Nomadic Fanatic video today from a while back about how you helped him trouble shoot his Onan generator that was running at the wrong frequency. Safe travels.

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for contributing Rick I am about the pull the trigger on a new 3000 watt pure sign wave inverter as I get ready to install my new residential fridge. Video to follow.

@rickl6697

2 жыл бұрын

@@ktoutdoor 3000 watt ? You must be going to run your entire coach off of it I run our 10cu' Domectic off a 400/750 watt modified sine wave, but that's the only thing we run on an inverter. You must have a big solar/battery bank. Nice. I've got a lot of catching up to do on your videos. Thanks for posting them.

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

You are correct I mess spoke I'm upgrading from 1000 to 2000 watt inverter here is my setup for the past 8 years but now I have 300 amp hours of battleborn batteries. See this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/gXdlztqyaJTFdrQ.html

I have not read all the comments but for your information usually all cooling units are topped off with hydrogen at 400lbs. pressure. I used to rebuild cooling units but that was many moons ago. The chemical in the unit that crystalizes is called dichromate. It is yellow.

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for contributing I would love to chat with further about the process my cell phone number is 606-875-0125 Kevin

I wasn't as lucky also.My Camper was a 2018 Jayco Greyhawk 29MV.The refrigerator was the exact same model.We lost everything.The cause of the fire started out the same was behind the refrigerator but it was too late.Thank You for the video hope it will save lives.We were not sleeping in the camper or we probably wouldn't have been able to survive the fire it burns very fast

@ktoutdoor

Жыл бұрын

Sorry for your loss but thank you for contributing David, Have a blessed day

Ugh, saw a fire like that before on a small tag, those poor folks lost the whole rig though. When our Demented Dometic pissed its ammonia a few years ago (and I saw the prices for a rebuild/replacement!), we made a trip to our local Home Depot. For around $400 we wheeled out this 10.1cf Magic Chef (matched our stove & microwave!). Even had a couple beefy guys from the store come out in the parking lot and help me lift it into the wall! It fit damn near perfectly, near doubled the capacity, runs quietly, temps are always consistent and I NEVER have to look for LED function lights”. BEST investment we ever made in the old girl (along with a 3K PSW inverter) Nice helpful vid as usual, thanks!

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for contributing Jim, stay tuned for new residential fridge install video after we get back to Ky. I hope your staying warm.

@OUMagMan

2 жыл бұрын

@@ktoutdoor Thanks...trying...46 in Tampa right now...layered...sure feel bad for my Ohio folks though! I have Magic Chef fridge pics/tips if interested...will stay tuned!

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

Well hello neighbor we camping at Kissimmee Florida till April

Wow! Great information you shared with us. Much appreciated.

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

This is the EXACT reason I replaced my Norcold 1200 with a Samsung Rf18 three years ago. Besides my bride LOVES the larger box and I love the quicker cooling and my hard frozen ice cream!!! The Samsung, with 18 cubic feet of storage, fit in the same hole as my Norcold 1200 by dropping the bottom shelf under the old unit about 5 inches. Width and depth were exactly the same. And only ONE pound difference in weight.

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I see that's a very nice fridge. I'm looking forward to my fridge upgrade come April when we get home.

Another vote for residential with an inverter!

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

I concur with your assessment, will be changing our out soon

Is that a 1200RLM? For one thing you don’t know how well it’s been maintained in regards to running off level time and time again if the rig was purchased used. It’s acumulative damage for doing so. Your explanation is correct. ARP helps but do the research on them and see how hot they are still allowed to get before shitting down?

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for contributing

When you start replacing yours can you take a picture of the front of it for me from the floor up I my Refrigerator sits up off the floor thanks Ronnie

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

I sure will ours is made the same way

Kevin, take a look at the boiler, that’s where the fire started. The boiler insulation is all but gone. The flames drafted straight up where they circulate around the condenser causing the most damage. I wonder if the thermal safety sensor failed and was bypassed? At 2:40 I can see the recall kit but I don’t see the sensor or remnants of it connected to the boiler.

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

Larry I would love to pick your brain further about this if you can give me a call my cell 606-875-0125 Kevin

They claim driving isn’t a issue so much because your up and down and back and forth. I pulled my 1200 out yrs ago on a different rig and was the BEST thing I ever did hands down!

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

My next project will be installing a residential refrigerator

They had a recall on them

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and the recall was installed yet it still caught on fire like many of them do.

Looks like it started at the boiler which is the most common place . Any idea if he had the recall done ? If this is one that is on the list, but looking at it, if not it should have been

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

Yes it was fully updated and still caught fire

I just visited the Proteng booth at the quartzsite RV show. He told me it would be about $600 to install their kit. They apparently don't sell to the DIY crowd. It might be a great option for some, but that's about half the price of an upgrade to a new system, which I would probably do instead since I already have degraded cooling performance.

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

A new residential fridge is only 450.00 www.lowes.com/pd/Haier-9-8-cu-ft-Top-Freezer-Refrigerator-Black/1000366387#preview-overview

@lonekazoo

2 жыл бұрын

@@ktoutdoor I'll definitely be interested to see what you do. I also have the 38J with the converter and drawer below. Did not realize there was a solution that would fit in that space. I've already had the retrofit temp sensor trip on us (resettable with a magnet).

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

@@lonekazoo Yes that's a little scary. Stay tuned that's my plan to replace when we get back home come April

Would you suggest I need to be concerned about an original Norcold in a 2008 Safari Trek?

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

Is it a 4 door? 1200 series?

Does anyone which residential refrigerator would fit where my Norcold 1200 sits without many modifications ?

@ktoutdoor

Жыл бұрын

Give me a call or text we can talk options 606-875-0125 Kevin

Go with a residential refrigerator

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

Stay tuned should make for a good video.

Wonder what it cost for these systems?

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

I have links to all of them below video, fridge defend starts at $150.00 Blaze cut around $200.00

Is thar a 2 door ?

@ktoutdoor

2 жыл бұрын

No it was a 4 door 1200 Norcold