"Worst Written Women" | A Defense of Naruto Women

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  • @neko9589
    @neko958923 күн бұрын

    everyone wants to be hokage ME: nah shikamaru wants to be a cloud 🌥 😂

  • @pamtheman5748

    @pamtheman5748

    23 күн бұрын

    Shoot! I want to be a cloud too.

  • @danialqureshi

    @danialqureshi

    23 күн бұрын

    What a drag

  • @James_Wisniewski

    @James_Wisniewski

    23 күн бұрын

    Sometimes, it's not up to you. Mendokuse~.

  • @UltimatePower01

    @UltimatePower01

    23 күн бұрын

    Funny how life works

  • @Theunloved1738

    @Theunloved1738

    22 күн бұрын

    Shikamaru now:”………………………..fuck!”

  • @Nando-hj4zi
    @Nando-hj4zi23 күн бұрын

    i will never tolerate tsunade disrespect. I know kishimoto isn’t the best at writing women but what he did w tsunade deserves praise. truly one of my fav characters in the naruto verse period 😊

  • @sarveshnathan7559

    @sarveshnathan7559

    23 күн бұрын

    There's nothing special about Tsunade's character. She's very meh tbh

  • @Mr2dmonkey

    @Mr2dmonkey

    23 күн бұрын

    @@sarveshnathan7559 Hmm, u werent paying attention to her character, then, or this video, if you believe that.😜

  • @sarveshnathan7559

    @sarveshnathan7559

    23 күн бұрын

    @@Mr2dmonkey Literally her character doesn't stand out. She spends most of series in a desk with more only big moment being healing the people in the Leaf during Pain's attack.

  • @henryschroder3450

    @henryschroder3450

    23 күн бұрын

    @@Mr2dmonkey you can fully comprehend a character and still find it bad kiddo

  • @Nothisndhdudjdjdj

    @Nothisndhdudjdjdj

    23 күн бұрын

    @@sarveshnathan7559honestly i don’t know any other character with hemophobia and PTSD. Im sure for some people thats an insanely relatable character. As well as her grief and depression

  • @5my9other93half
    @5my9other93half23 күн бұрын

    I like how Tenten only gets mentioned briefly once in this video, perfectly sums up her character LOL!

  • @ShouryaRathore

    @ShouryaRathore

    22 күн бұрын

    why do people care about tenten, who cares.

  • @pickedceasar1216

    @pickedceasar1216

    22 күн бұрын

    @@ShouryaRathore because she’s part of Rock Lee and Nejis squad as well as the konoha 11. Maybe if she wasn’t framed as being a member of the next generation then people wouldn’t care as much

  • @triplefried

    @triplefried

    21 күн бұрын

    ​@@pickedceasar1216exactly this. Everyone says "why are you bringing up tenten" but she's been around so long and hasn't gotten enough of a spotlight to shine like the others such as neji or lee or even shikamaru, so many side characters thrown away

  • @sofarsogood8680

    @sofarsogood8680

    20 күн бұрын

    ​@@ShouryaRathoreremember during the war, Tenten got the legendary weapons but Kishimoto didn't explored or expanded anything from that . Of course , we care as much as kakashi using Zabuza's sword

  • @mememanathome2802

    @mememanathome2802

    20 күн бұрын

    @@pickedceasar1216 I dont know why people care so much about konoha 11, they are just groups introduced to keep the chuunin exams interesting and most of the characters have been given attention (like shikamaru, choji ,ino and ino-shika-cho as a whole, hinata, neji , lee, kiba in part 1) Only tenten and shino wasnt given any attention. The problem is yall think konoha 11 is just as important as strawhats in one piece, the correct parallel would be team 7 has the same importance which they got.

  • @majestyzx9081
    @majestyzx908123 күн бұрын

    Oh no Merphy, you didn't go into the forums. That's the Internet equivalent of being a war photographer.

  • @nichescenes

    @nichescenes

    22 күн бұрын

    The problem is most media is reviewed by men, they did a stat on imdb and most reviews are 80% men. for example I looked at older comedies for minority films, and see low reviews for minority films that people consider classics, from friday after next to house party, not saying their good, but it makes sense men wouldnt enjoy them as much outside the demo. Mostly men read shonen or are expected to. The women are graded on a power level scale of importance. The takes are usualy very base line, due to the community being mostly 13-35, overall the writers try to do deep material but alot of the editors know that doesnt sell (or they assume it wont.) so they try avoid the axe and focus on men. Naruto gets hate but the women obviously do alot. It's just alot of popular series get heavy criticism picking them apart. Frieren i just watched, is great but if people picked it apart like naruto they would make it seem awful. Even if said issues arent that big a deal. Ugh they have a shonen like final fight, ugh the pacing is slow, ugh the characters arent as deep as monster or so on. Im strawmaning lol but you get my example.

  • @VMF-rj8qo

    @VMF-rj8qo

    22 күн бұрын

    ​@@nichescenes The vast majority of women who read and watched Naruto also agree with the female characters being poor, this is not a "male centric review sphere made it so people have a poor opinion of the female characters". Besides that, most people criticize them regarding also their arcs and proeminence, not only their abilities. This is the purest of straw mans.

  • @bblala1408

    @bblala1408

    22 күн бұрын

    ​@@VMF-rj8qoI think it has a lot to do with Sakura. One of the character with the most screen time, but there is not really a scene, wheter it is a fight, speech or anything that made her "special" to most. Someone like Lee for example cemented himself in the heart of the fans with a single fight. Gaara had multiple speeches or moments even though he rarely appears. I just feel like she, as the main female character of the show, is really lacking compared to a lot of characters in the series. The same can be said for most other female characters except Tsunade.

  • @atlasrises4
    @atlasrises423 күн бұрын

    I think the hate on female characters is just an extension of Naruto's problem with barely using its side characters as much as the reader would like. Then it's pushed further by the early Sakura and Ino story, and having every woman's story centered around a guy in their life.

  • @troyii435

    @troyii435

    23 күн бұрын

    I think this is the core of it. I think the characters themselves are great but their potential and the possibility of further depth doesn’t always get capitalized on simply with most characters and Naruto, then it stands out particularly for the female characters because the series has them all fill somewhat similar roles or have similar initial motivations. I have very little problem with how the characters were actually handled in Naruto ever. Most of the feelings are about wishing there was more because there’s so much potential

  • @momogi618

    @momogi618

    23 күн бұрын

    yeah i think the core reason people saying that is because of sakura which becoming useless or close to it whenever sasuke come into the picture. after shippuden her story and character become so great then turn 180 when sasuke comeback into the picture i hate that so much.

  • @Blast_S_rank_1

    @Blast_S_rank_1

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@momogi618she become ussless around garbage naruto not Sasuke

  • @momogi618

    @momogi618

    23 күн бұрын

    @@Blast_S_rank_1 explain shippuden to me when they trying to save gaara, now explain to me again when they find out sasuke whereabout. kishimoto literally make her useless whenever sasuke come into the picture.

  • @Echo-nn8dt

    @Echo-nn8dt

    23 күн бұрын

    Every man’s story is centered about a guy in their life.

  • @rauliggynashow9092
    @rauliggynashow909223 күн бұрын

    Ino is a triple threat. She fights, learned medical ninjutsu and later became a sensory ninja like her dad.

  • @NicaremE

    @NicaremE

    14 күн бұрын

    She became THE sensory ninja, and now is propably the main defense for konoha with naruto out of the picture

  • @RedEyeItachi

    @RedEyeItachi

    13 күн бұрын

    I dont know if I would go that far. She has little to no fighting skill and little to no medical ninjutsu skill. Just cuz he can do it doesn’t mean she is actually good at it. Her main job is sensory and mind control. She rarely ever fights or uses medical ninjutsu

  • @trishahernz7809

    @trishahernz7809

    11 күн бұрын

    She’s also Shikamaru’s right hand woman and part of the conspiracy to make contact with Boruto, who in that part of the story a rogue ninja and a criminal so yeah she’s pretty good in the Boruto manga. Surprisingly Sakura seemed to cease to exist which is odd because her husband and daughter are still relevant.

  • @UNKNOWNL3G3ND

    @UNKNOWNL3G3ND

    5 күн бұрын

    She just knows fighting and healing, not the best at it, probably the better ones of the sensory ninja, well it's more of a compliment to the Leaf security system.

  • @Ajgamesalot

    @Ajgamesalot

    Күн бұрын

    Sakura became the best medic, learned how to fight, and has the most experienced when it comes to fighting op enemies

  • @gaara_of_the_desert1118
    @gaara_of_the_desert111823 күн бұрын

    I think people are less angry about women being healers, and more mad that no men are.

  • @sailingheartmusic

    @sailingheartmusic

    21 күн бұрын

    except kabuto 🤔(in the beginning of the story lmao)

  • @wadeo_0

    @wadeo_0

    21 күн бұрын

    @@sailingheartmusic and Cee from the cloud village

  • @Phatnaru0002

    @Phatnaru0002

    20 күн бұрын

    I don't really get the issue with that anyway. Biologically, men have advantages in combat, and women have advantages in social dynamics (this applies to healthcare and childcare in the fact that women are biologically more comforting). It's a good thing we've gotten away from the past, where men and women are forced into roles they don't feel comfortable with, but there's nothing wrong with recognizing that the MAJORITY of these roles will be filled in accordance with natural, biological advantages/needs.

  • @rendezvousonmemorylane

    @rendezvousonmemorylane

    19 күн бұрын

    @@Phatnaru0002 WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???? They have superpowers! What advantage do the men in Naruto have over women????? Stop projecting your world values on Kishimoto's made-up world! wtf...

  • @SogonD.Zunatsu

    @SogonD.Zunatsu

    18 күн бұрын

    ​@@Phatnaru0002I'm pretty sure you've designed a comment that will piss off all sides.

  • @jamescreasman4180
    @jamescreasman418022 күн бұрын

    I think Kushina wanted to be a hokage for a similar reason as Naruto. She wanted to be acknowledged for more than a girl with a demon spirit in her. But I think Minato helped her realize that that wasn't necessary.

  • @elijahbowers1
    @elijahbowers123 күн бұрын

    I've never thought Tsunade was poorly written. I do have issues with Sakura though.

  • @wahajali2237

    @wahajali2237

    23 күн бұрын

    If you're problems with Sakura are loving Sasuke Their relationship was way better in the manga. Anime made Sasuke too emo and Edgy

  • @elijahbowers1

    @elijahbowers1

    23 күн бұрын

    @@wahajali2237 I read it and watched it. No she has other issues imo.

  • @wahajali2237

    @wahajali2237

    23 күн бұрын

    @@elijahbowers1 What are your other problems? Like making fun of Naruto in episode 3?

  • @elijahbowers1

    @elijahbowers1

    23 күн бұрын

    @@wahajali2237 it's the problem Kishimoto and many mangakas have with side characters. (So I don't hold it against him) Sets up certain expectations for them then they get neglected or imo miswritten. I was so hype for her early Shippuden then she feels thrown to the side after the first big arc. Kishimoto did do really cool and awesome things with other side characters though.

  • @master1sa

    @master1sa

    23 күн бұрын

    @@wahajali2237 the problem is that loving Sasuke is her MAIN character trait.

  • @ZevsMika
    @ZevsMika23 күн бұрын

    I never thought i'd see you do the Hinata "Naruto kun" 😭😭😭

  • @bunnycarrotaf7853

    @bunnycarrotaf7853

    23 күн бұрын

    Time frame it please 😂🤣

  • @prajwaleliya9539

    @prajwaleliya9539

    23 күн бұрын

    15:20

  • @ThePlKLE
    @ThePlKLE23 күн бұрын

    This dude merphy is completely on point here. The assertion that female strength only exists in the form of being more masculine is completely ignoring the strengths of femininity

  • @nichescenes

    @nichescenes

    22 күн бұрын

    I think she's noticing the flaws in the community reviewing the series from shonen vs say the ones who commented on monster or vinland saga like stories. The naruto people focus on strength and fights which is fine it's the point it's exciting but their are more than those goals. It's like how i feel when i hear, ugh this character was bland...why...well they were boring...it pushes the idea in works that to make a character likeable their extroverts, screaming, loud, always happy, and women are conservative, polite, speak when spoken to etc the garbage no one really likes in real life. It is why i get frustrated with critics where they devolve into base level stuff. That said i can and do fall for it and mess up and under think a narrative. Just gotta check for my bias and assume hey the author likely knows more than me where they are taking the story. Also many forget parts, since they read it over 20 years not 6 months like her.

  • @kasi4363

    @kasi4363

    3 күн бұрын

    The issue is that the strengths of femininity is exclusive to the female cast. The saying of fighting men and healing women come to mind. How many men do you see as healers in this show?

  • @sterlingsloan6626
    @sterlingsloan662622 күн бұрын

    Glad someone is out here defending the Naruto women fairly while also pointing out criticisms. Kushina is one of my favorite characters in the whole series and she's absolutely amazing.

  • @jayd.doubledubs
    @jayd.doubledubs23 күн бұрын

    Rip Anko's potential

  • @oyamampendu9467

    @oyamampendu9467

    23 күн бұрын

    Why's do ignore Ibiki the genjustu specialist who is only used to hyped up other characters Or the 3rd Procter Hayate Gekko who's death remains just shock value?

  • @D__634

    @D__634

    23 күн бұрын

    Anko would have been a great source of intel on finding out Orochimaru's hideout.

  • @justincain2702

    @justincain2702

    23 күн бұрын

    @@oyamampendu9467 You are going to be able to point to plenty of male characters who are sidelined because it's 90% of the cast.

  • @ShouryaRathore

    @ShouryaRathore

    22 күн бұрын

    she never had any, she just had a cool design thats it lol

  • @jayd.doubledubs

    @jayd.doubledubs

    22 күн бұрын

    @@ShouryaRathore She was Orochimaru's former student. Could've been a nice flipped parallel of Hiruzen and Orochimaru's relationship. Anko just wasn't written to keep up with the power creep

  • @obvv7714
    @obvv771423 күн бұрын

    Tsunade is a fantastically written female character

  • @sarveshnathan7559

    @sarveshnathan7559

    23 күн бұрын

    She's not fantastic. She just meh. A bland vanilla character.

  • @Drakenlord

    @Drakenlord

    23 күн бұрын

    She's good by Naruto standards. That's it.

  • @sarveshnathan7559

    @sarveshnathan7559

    23 күн бұрын

    @@Drakenlord Yeah, and that's not saying much. Very low bar.

  • @faith4657

    @faith4657

    23 күн бұрын

    Very low bar? Meh? A character who has lost many and doesn't want to get close so that she doesn't lose more. Someone who basically changed the history of Naruto by having a medic team on all squads, someone who had to overcome their fear and was seen as an important figure in history? She's way more than you give her credit for.

  • @sarveshnathan7559

    @sarveshnathan7559

    23 күн бұрын

    @@faith4657 Her being the best female character is a low bar because many of them are lame or straight up awful.

  • @sonsai10
    @sonsai1023 күн бұрын

    The "tank, damage, support" thing is called the holy trinity because they are all important roles to fill in combat. Healers and supports get such a bad reputation in all media for not being flashy enough

  • @anonymousname5860
    @anonymousname586023 күн бұрын

    “Karen… existing”. Yeah that pretty much sums it up.

  • @munsulight721
    @munsulight72123 күн бұрын

    We found another character that Merphy dislike as much as Caribou in One Piece : Karen. She is so damn annoying Loved the video and agreed with your points

  • @discomoon22
    @discomoon2223 күн бұрын

    I loved the arc with Sasori and the puppets. Yeah that has to be the highlight of two strong women in the story. They kicked ass. It’s good stuff. Sakura made quite the leap and she showcased all that she learned. Chiyo way passed her prime was still enough to take down members of the Akatsuki. That arc doesn’t get enough love! Awesome video!

  • @SASMADBRUV7
    @SASMADBRUV723 күн бұрын

    It enrages me when they get characters like sakura, ino and ESPECIALLY KARIN to be in love with sasuke for no other reason than him being cool and handsome. Nothing more in depth than that. It makes the characters look weaker than they are

  • @charlesacker9174

    @charlesacker9174

    23 күн бұрын

    Yeah Karin's exceptionally under utilized. Like she's Naruto's biological cousin. Her and Pain are literally Naruto's closest living relatives until he has children of his own. She didn't even get a wedding invite lol.

  • @SASMADBRUV7

    @SASMADBRUV7

    23 күн бұрын

    @charlesacker9174 I always thought it's odd that they never reference directly that naruto, Karin and nagato are all related. Naruto would have loved to hear that

  • @grinko1222

    @grinko1222

    23 күн бұрын

    Not ino. She grew over her crush. If anything, she's just acting like a 12 year old girl. Sakura was the one letting her crush be most of her character

  • @devilslayer3548

    @devilslayer3548

    23 күн бұрын

    Yeah but that was part 1 sakura who was a dumb 12 year old kid did people want to act like a adult and have no development

  • @Swagjutsusolosfiction

    @Swagjutsusolosfiction

    23 күн бұрын

    Sakura and ino were 12 yo girls that's literally what they do. And ino got over her crush for Sasuke, Sasuke was Sakura teammate and she spent more time with him. Karin was really just there as a sasukes personal plot amor

  • @ThPrRe
    @ThPrRe23 күн бұрын

    "Even some male characters get pushed aside for naruto" Immediately thought of Kiba, Shino who btw has 0 L's, and konahamaru lol

  • @bennudelman9751
    @bennudelman975123 күн бұрын

    Tsunade might be the most developed character in the show.

  • @pantyosashu8137

    @pantyosashu8137

    23 күн бұрын

    hehehehehe

  • @yasuhoismine1508

    @yasuhoismine1508

    23 күн бұрын

    Chill out now

  • @bennudelman9751

    @bennudelman9751

    23 күн бұрын

    @@yasuhoismine1508 Most of her story is about overcoming the trauma of losing everybody close to her in the war. She goes from the gambling drunk petrified of blood to one of Naruto's key role models and the Hokage keeping half the village alive during the Pain invasion. That's a full arc.

  • @yasuhoismine1508

    @yasuhoismine1508

    23 күн бұрын

    @@bennudelman9751 stll doesnt mean shes the most developed character in the show. Chill out now

  • @bennudelman9751

    @bennudelman9751

    23 күн бұрын

    @@yasuhoismine1508 good argument

  • @moonlight2870
    @moonlight287023 күн бұрын

    The problem with Naruto women is how often they get dropped to the sideline. They get some oretty cool arc or set up....for like a couple chapters and then are forgotten. You guys remember Anko and her whole thing with Orochimaru? You guys remember how Sakura said she loved Naruto so he would stop chasing after Sasuke so she could kill him, only to fail in the last second, not because Sasuke was too strong, but because she "couldn't bring herself to do it"? You guys remember when Shikamaru's father died, and it was a super emotional moment because of the interactions we have seen between him and Shikamaru, but then Ino's das died at the exact same time and no one cared because we never seen him interact with her? Or when Shikamaru and Choji got cathartic moments with their fallen sensei Asuma but Ino got absolutely nothing? Not to mention how few female characters are there to begin with. Every single team is two boys and a girl, akatsuki only has a single female member, Tsunade was the first female hokage, the Sasuke rescue team at the end of part 1? Didn't have a single girl in it until Temari dropped to save Shikamaru's ass. The sound quartet (or quintet) only had a single girl in their ranks... you have so few women in your manga already and you do NOTHING with them. I'm glad you found reason to enjoy these characters, but most of those reasons once in a huge while. Characters like Kakashi, Naruto, Gaara, Shikamaru, all of them get multiple opportunities to grow, to change, to show how cool and badass they are. Girls get a single moment if that, and their moments are usually unresolved.

  • @ritacirocavalcante

    @ritacirocavalcante

    23 күн бұрын

    You not mentioning Tenten at all kinda, involuntarily I guess, made your point further.

  • @arunabhalahiri4931

    @arunabhalahiri4931

    23 күн бұрын

    Also the inconsistency in Kishi's writing doesnt help the case at all. Also the slapstick style comedy involving the female members feel super cringy and kinda unearned. Unearned this is the term I would like to use in describing the female character development in Naruto, especially regarding payoff.. Though Konan, Temari, Tenten are good characters. Tsunade, I have mixed feelings about but I can stand by her. Kushina too...

  • @paulogaspar8295

    @paulogaspar8295

    23 күн бұрын

    all those characters where "dropped to the sideline" like exactly all characters in naruto except naruto and sasuke. because they are the main characters. Do you remeber what happen to Shino? Do you remember what happen to Sai? do you remember what happen to Kiba? All those characters where also dropped to the side and are male. The problem here is the bias. Women that read the series have the bias of none of the main characters being woman. And people got mad at that fact and at the fact that they where not as strong as the main male characters. that's it. That in conjunction with Kishimoto "admitting" to not being the best with female characters made people just bring that idea to the extreme. 1- Shikamaru had 1 single arc to grow in the entire show. Gaara also had one single time to gror in the war and everything else was through flashbacks. Tsunade had more episodes showing her in the war, with her old boyfriend, her struggles in the war. It's a bias of numbers. there are less female characters that are given a lot of episodes and back story than there are male characters and it's the fact that they are not as strong as the main men in the show.

  • @darthralin

    @darthralin

    23 күн бұрын

    Yes, that was my experience as well. It's not that Kishimoto can't write women. It's that he rarely does.

  • @redhawx4216

    @redhawx4216

    23 күн бұрын

    They just don't get a proper time to shine. I mean at the end of war both Naruto and sasuke, heck even kakashi got a mad power boost. Like wtf is she going to do? Punch the shit out of kaguya? And that exactly what happens which looks bad in my opinion .

  • @H3rmon861
    @H3rmon86123 күн бұрын

    I think one of the biggest think I appreciate about Naruto’s female cast is their character design. Most shonen have women (and most often times girls, under the age of 18) with a design that is way too oversexualized while Naruto, they always seemed reasonable. Not every female character has a skimpy outfit with unrealistic proportions: they’re just normal teenager. I get they’re doing this because it’s for an audience of teenage boys but still

  • @guileticia9
    @guileticia923 күн бұрын

    I understand that Sakura is a normal girl, but that could be more explored, like we've seen with Lee, that has an character arc about not been very talented. But what it seems to me, is that she has nothing because Kishimoto didn't know what to do with her, in fact, the only flashback we got of her had nothing to do with this, but was about Sasuke or her big forehead. What I felt watching, was that on the Shippuden Kishimoto saw that she wasn't working, and then decided do copy all of tsunade's abilities. It just felt lazy to me..

  • @raven-sf3di

    @raven-sf3di

    21 күн бұрын

    I find adding characters that are supposed to be the normal one just boring. It's why Rei from Star wars sucks . The character starts walking around with no link to an overarching story.

  • @Ajgamesalot

    @Ajgamesalot

    Күн бұрын

    Her backstory was her being bullied which made her insecure plus she was talented

  • @aino-kaisav5504
    @aino-kaisav550423 күн бұрын

    I wouldn't say Kishimoto ia necessarily bad at writing women, even if he himself thinks so. He more seems unsure what to do with his female characters so he avoids writing them.

  • @afnanbogey

    @afnanbogey

    23 күн бұрын

    Yeah I think he overthinks how to incorporate female/feminine elements. They end up landing flat very often, or it seems like he needs to muster up a lot of effort to give them a moment. I will say, he does a good job of generally not objectifying them, considering the era and genre.

  • @TheRockerX

    @TheRockerX

    23 күн бұрын

    Ironically, it's a self fulfilling prophecy. He's afraid of writing women, so he avoids giving them too much to do, thereby fulfilling his original fear of writing women poorly

  • @wahajali2237

    @wahajali2237

    23 күн бұрын

    @@afnanbogey Thats the reason they are hated in the first place. Kishimoto never objectified any of them even Tsunade fails in comparison to bleach or One piece fan service Shonen in general writes men better than women So why only does Naruto gets this treatment. It's because of this

  • @devilslayer3548

    @devilslayer3548

    23 күн бұрын

    To be fair it a catch 22 because someone is going to complain how he would write woman anyway Should have written them the way he wants

  • @faith4657

    @faith4657

    23 күн бұрын

    Well he needs to conquer that fear and his other manga samurai 8 does a good job at its female character.

  • @cubearts1
    @cubearts123 күн бұрын

    people portray Kishi like this evil Misogynistic dude when i think he just lacks confidence and ends up with clunky execution, , hell the strongest character in universe of the original series is a woman, and in the sequel and the main boruto era thing he wrote focused entirely on a female lead. i think his hearts in the right place, his execution is a bit mixed. that being said, you mentioned liking Kushiha, id suggest reading the minato one shot that came out last year, its honestly such amazing little story for how long it is.

  • @TheeKing7
    @TheeKing722 күн бұрын

    "Just a healer" Looks at clips of Sakura and Tsunade breaking opponents bones and creating craters. "Yup, just a healer" .... 😂😂😂

  • @liamerasmus8592
    @liamerasmus859223 күн бұрын

    I really hope Merphy reads the “Whorl Within the Spiral” one-shot that Kishimoto put out last year. I honestly thought it was some of his best work and it focuses so much on Kushina, so I think Merphy would love it.

  • @michaelballack3051

    @michaelballack3051

    10 күн бұрын

    Well it was written and drawn by Kishimoto himself so it's canon material unlike Boruto

  • @J.Crime123
    @J.Crime12322 күн бұрын

    19:46 "Why are support roles so undervalued?" Ever played a game online which has a different class system with other people as a support class?

  • @NKMitch42
    @NKMitch4223 күн бұрын

    I think part of this is also that some of the worst moments in the story are centered on decisions made by the women. Sakura telling Naruto she loves him to try to guilt him back to the village is pretty egregious in this regard. But Sakura also participates in the Rescue Gaara in a way that highlights all the best parts of her character and my favorite fight in the story alongside Chiyo (who is easily my favorite side character)

  • @nahuel3433

    @nahuel3433

    23 күн бұрын

    That moment is one of the best. It shows the deep desperation of the characters involved and the sacrifices they are willing to make to stop Naruto's unrelenting obsession that almost caused an international incident. It's certainly not the kindest move done, but it is a great one especially from a storytelling standpoint.

  • @Junosensei

    @Junosensei

    23 күн бұрын

    Yeah, I felt that Sakura's lie was a great moment for her, mostly because she was willing to say the most humiliating thing she could say to Naruto, all for the sake of trying to take full responsibility for everything. It was a dick move, and it wasn't a positive step for Naruto or the story, but it felt like the kind of conflict her character needed. I was more disappointed with her being unable to finish what she started afterward, which undercut this moment more as a result.

  • @hafizhaekal1352
    @hafizhaekal135220 күн бұрын

    Chiyo isn't talk about enough in Naruto fandom, i feel like there's not many old women representation in anime. Usually most author wanted beautiful or sexy women in their series but Chiyo is not only a powerful fighter in the series she's also pivotal to the theme of the story.

  • @imitationpitaya

    @imitationpitaya

    13 күн бұрын

    Chiyo was great!

  • @Jay_SGE
    @Jay_SGE23 күн бұрын

    FINALLY. Someone who I know will tackle the issue with nuance.

  • @jetkirby
    @jetkirby23 күн бұрын

    Hinata is not the best written female character but she is better than worse imo, her battle to overcome her meekness and emulate naruto's ninja way of never going back on her word are better than a lot of the other characters in the story Shyness->bravery is one of the best character arcs in story writing

  • @Tala_Rahal
    @Tala_Rahal23 күн бұрын

    Such an awesome video, thank you Merphy! This series holds a special place in my heart and always didn’t like how much people were over hating this story (in my opinion)

  • @edwardnowakowski5990
    @edwardnowakowski599023 күн бұрын

    I adore Naruto as a series, but tbh, I feel like the big complaint in how the women are written is the wasted potential. There are so many fantastically designed female characters, but they fall by the wayside. Kurenai is the most powerful non uchiha genjutsu user in konoha, and is used exclusively to show how powerful itachi is. And she’s there to mourn asuma, and that’s it. We don’t even see the major impact that she has on her team like we do with kakashi and asuma. There are very few actual jonin in the series, with most of the adults being either chunin or “special jonin”, so having the only female character with that rank never really get to show her strength or even pass along her experience, feels like wasted potential. Beyond that, tenten is effectively a joke, hinata’s character is hard to describe if you can’t bring up naruto while doing it, which is a shame because her clan is incredibly interesting politically, she just never feels connected to those politics. yugao was set up so well to avenge hayate after the chunin exams, but that never comes to light. Anko mitarashi could have been used for more of the orochimaru stories. And sakura despite being the female character with front page billing always felt like an afterthought. I’d say Ino, Temari, and Tsunade are the only major female characters who got properly used, and even then I have a hunch ino wouldn’t have that honor had shikamaru not been so popular

  • @MidnightSpecialist
    @MidnightSpecialist22 күн бұрын

    Love hearing your breakdowns, they're very eye opening and usually on point when presented the way you do

  • @skullknightyt
    @skullknightyt23 күн бұрын

    Never thought the day of Merphy Naruto days would come but here we are. Can't wait for her to read the last arc.

  • @spencermoore1953
    @spencermoore195322 күн бұрын

    Fantastic video! You definitely changed my mind

  • @cjsdizzy
    @cjsdizzy23 күн бұрын

    Im always so excited to hear merphys takes! Especially when its about a series i grew up with. Thanks for all you do merph! 🤘

  • @jayd.doubledubs
    @jayd.doubledubs23 күн бұрын

    "I'm sure he respects her more now that he's married to her" One thing Boruto does really well imo is the Sasuke-Sakura marriage Yeah, Sasuke's absent from home a lot, but that's mainly due to him being the Shadow Hokage to atone for his sins. I really enjoy all the little scenes we do get of adult Sasuke and Sakura's relationship

  • @collecter343

    @collecter343

    23 күн бұрын

    Scene of him giving her a ring was sweet as hell

  • @reksio_xyt8733

    @reksio_xyt8733

    23 күн бұрын

    the Sasuke retsudon (i think) novel the one with the dinosaurs was really great and showed how he did actually love her unlike in shippuden. it was animated in boruto and it was very nice

  • @92JazzQueen

    @92JazzQueen

    23 күн бұрын

    Nah it's a bad marriage with no chemistry

  • @BriSand1993

    @BriSand1993

    18 күн бұрын

    I feel like Jun Esaka really understood what Kishimoto was getting at when it came to the Sasuke and Sakura pairing whereas I think his original intention was having a relationship formed from forgiveness and understanding with Sakura understanding why Sasuke went down the path he did and forgiving him despite all the times he hurt her essentially being the romantic version of the brother relationship he had with Naruto. Thing is, the way Kishi wrote it didn't come across for a lot of people. But when Jun wrote their novel it's clear she was able to write their relationship and showcase it in a much better nuanced way than Kishi could. The way she highlighted how Sasuke is essentially a soldier that's always away from his family due to his duty as a shinobi who protects the village from afar while Sakura being head of the medical department makes her an important pillar that's necessary within the village; so both are important assets for their homeland that unfortunately make it difficult for them to be together. It's also shown that Sasuke does indeed think of both Sakura and Sarada when he's in his travels and that no matter how long or far apart they are; nothing would ever change the fact that they're a family. Sasuke's upset that he misses key moments in both his wife and daughter's lives but that he's never worried Sakura will ever betray him because he trusts her completely. Sasuke's favorite feature about Sakura are her hands because they're the hands that have saved many lives including his as a doctor as well as the hands that brought up their daughter. To Sasuke Sakura hasn't aged at all when he points out her lack of wrinkles in comparison to his. Both love each other dearly and people need to stop with the jokes about Sasuke being a deadbeat that doesn't want to be with his family or that Sakura's pathetic for being with someone who isn't around a lot while ignoring all of the important context.

  • @BladeWinters
    @BladeWinters23 күн бұрын

    Can't believe you're already done with Naruto, feels like only a weeks ago when you started. I alittle sad that the Naruto journey is already over but I'm sure once you start another, I'll be like "Cool, new series."

  • @TheRockerX
    @TheRockerX23 күн бұрын

    As someone who thinks Kishimoto doesn't write women well, Tsunade has always been the exception for me. She's an extremely well-written character (in her introductory arc at least, before getting sidelined). I also think the issue of female characters getting sidelined applies to most of the male characters as well. Naruto and Sasuke take the front seat to the detriment of most of the OG cast from Konoha. I'll never forgive the complete sidelining of Rock Lee after Part 1

  • @Oridan1
    @Oridan122 күн бұрын

    definetely not a useless video, very well put, and thought provoking!

  • @alwaysapirateroninace443
    @alwaysapirateroninace44319 күн бұрын

    This is such a balanced, thoughtful review.

  • @mylittlemexicanfriend9907
    @mylittlemexicanfriend990723 күн бұрын

    im sure he respects her now that hes married to her 💀💀💀

  • @foxesofautumn

    @foxesofautumn

    21 күн бұрын

    You can tell from how he never spends any time with her. Respect from afar... living the dream, there, Sakura.

  • @bshiii3907

    @bshiii3907

    17 күн бұрын

    @@foxesofautumnboy he’s protecting the village

  • @mikeclarke5732

    @mikeclarke5732

    8 күн бұрын

    That’s worse, imagine marrying the man who tried to kill You multiple times not even for a reason he just feels like it, who’s openly told you he doesn’t like you calls you annoying constantly that’s what we call Stockholm syndrome

  • @devanplays3509

    @devanplays3509

    8 күн бұрын

    @@foxesofautumn yall are dumb

  • @revanthyanduru6755
    @revanthyanduru675523 күн бұрын

    finally someone!!

  • @Dark_Jaguar
    @Dark_Jaguar22 күн бұрын

    Fighting is destructive, and healing is constructive. In the grand scheme of things, destroying things is easy, making things is hard, and making things is far FAR more important than breaking things.

  • @Gbiayeliltom
    @Gbiayeliltom22 күн бұрын

    I really like this video you had a lot of great points

  • @luujasonful
    @luujasonful23 күн бұрын

    This is a great video and why I'm subscribed, balanced.

  • @nichescenes

    @nichescenes

    22 күн бұрын

    yeah this is why i like book reviewers not into manga. They dont power scale etc. That said they focus a bit too much on character as a plot person myself. They arent used to it so i get it. The fights do tell a story but it takes time to notice. People usually act like shonen has no story due to fights being skippable and slice of life or ect being better cause it focuses on characters. I can read a personality type book if i cared that much about cool personalities, story matters too along with thrills and action does it for me.

  • @hc.117
    @hc.11723 күн бұрын

    Now you have finished the manga I want to talk to you about 2 cultural problems that the ending of Naruto have: 1)Kaguya Zetsu betraying Madara has been planned since the end of Naruto Part 1. After Naruto's first fight against Sasuke in the Valley of the End (chapters 233 and 234) Sasuke has a reaction similar to that of Hashirama (chapters 626 and 681) to the fact that Zetsu is watching them and Kakashi says in these chapters to how similar Naruto and Sasuke's story is to Hashirama and Madara's story. This is a foreshadowing of the fact that Zetsu manipulates the reincarnations of Indra and Ashura in the shadows. The cultural problem here is the fact that since his first appearance Black Zetsu speaks in katakana (the Japanese speaks in 3 languages: hiragana, katakana and kanji). Everyone in Naruto speaks in hiragana except black Zetsu who speaks in katakana. When the Divine Tree (Kaguya) tells Madara to absorb it (after his fight against Gai) the dialogue is written in katakana, it's a foreshadowing on the fact that Black Zetsu has been his will all along (this is why the revelation comes out of nowhere when we see it in the translated version). As you can imagine, this is a detail that the Japanese noticed and which was ignored during the translation. This point is a little more subjective but I thought it would be better for you to know this detail. 2)The reincarnations This point is a little more complicated, sorry. Maybe after seeing it you wondered how this concept of reincarnation worked (don't worry, you're not the only one) This concept of reincarnation is samsara (rinnegan means "eye of samsara") and it's the main belief of Buddhism and Hinduism (Japan is a Buddhist country and the universe of Naruto is based on the Japanese religions). The main belief of the concept is that each person lives several lives and that the basic situation of each of their lives is decided by the actions of their past lives but each person can react to this situation on their own (karma except that it is over several lives). It's a religion whose main belief is free will. This mainly means 2 things: 1. Hashirama and Madara's choices influenced the life context of Naruto and Sasuke. Hashirama abandoned Madara and Madara manipulated Obito who caused the Kyubi's attack on Konoha (Naruto's life context). And the Kyubi attack on Konoha caused the Uchiha clan to be rejected from the village, their revolution and therefore their massacre (Sasuke's life context). But as it is a religion which believes above all in free will, it's Naruto and Sasuke who make their own choices by themselves and that from the beginning (that's why they can stop the cycle by stopping to fight, it's because of karma) 2. Everyone in Naruto is a reincarnation, it's not just Naruto and Sasuke. It concerns everyone, the fact that Naruto is Ashura's doesn't change that. He is subject to the same rules as everyone else. If I'm talking to you about it, it's because many criticize this concept in the "well, Naruto wasn't a failure since he was destined to fight Sasuke" mode. It's totally false, it influences them (because of karma) but as I told you it's a concept whose main belief is free will and that's the reason why Naruto and Sasuke do peace at the end. Naruto has accomplished everything by himself since the beginning (this is the main rule and belief of this reincarnation) This concept of reincarnation is what Naruto deals with from the beginning (with Pain's speech on the cycle of hatred, Obito and Madara's plan and the situation of the ninja world) and the final questioning that Kishimoto brings here it's "the fact that your life context is similar to another one, does that mean that you will make the same decisions?". The answer is no, Naruto did not abandon Sasuke like Hashirama did and Sasuke did not choose the same path as Madara. The fact that your life started in a certain way does not mean that you will end it the same way, it is you and you alone who choose the destiny you want to follow. There you go, sorry if this part is a little longer but this point is a much more complicated cultural problem If you still have some questions don't hesitate to ask me

  • @zararkhan3499
    @zararkhan349922 күн бұрын

    Awesome video, really delved well into the critiques which some are valid and positives that nobody shines light on regarding rin and obito, shes more of a representation of light and hope for him than just a love interest, illuminating his path in the dark and guiding him forward (for without which he would be lost in the dark) when that light was extinguished, Madara became his false lightpost this is why I love when he says "Rin is someone not meant to die, so the dead Rin is also an imposter" You probably already knew this fact, but alot of people just view the surface level and call him a simp cant wait for your next part review to drop

  • @ghm508
    @ghm50823 күн бұрын

    Mic Drop video/points on this argument, well done.

  • @tulip5210
    @tulip521019 күн бұрын

    thank you for this

  • @whodat4lyfekris
    @whodat4lyfekris22 күн бұрын

    The Karin shots were hilarious 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Starting to think she's not a fan of Sasuke's Sacrificial Side Piece 😂😂😂 10:26 15:21 17:48 18:33

  • @alwaysapirateroninace443
    @alwaysapirateroninace44319 күн бұрын

    Such a good video essay.

  • @lidiadiasdecastro4530
    @lidiadiasdecastro453023 күн бұрын

    Agreed. And yes, Sakura should not have ended up with Sasuke. Pick someone else. Literally anyone else, like Lee who always liked her and would have understood her struggles, or even Kankuro after she saved his life from the posion... I just feel like ending up with Sasuke the absentee husband is not fair to her and cheapens her character arc.

  • @Blast_S_rank_1

    @Blast_S_rank_1

    23 күн бұрын

    Sasuke the best character in this show

  • @emperorluffy6001

    @emperorluffy6001

    23 күн бұрын

    IMO Sakura should have ended up alone.

  • @bananaman-mp3

    @bananaman-mp3

    23 күн бұрын

    @@Blast_S_rank_1 he is a good character!! but ending up married to sakura did them both dirty its like assassinating two characters with one stone... because sakura's reasons for liking sasuke were never explained in proper, as far as we know she just liked him at first because hes pretty and cool and later on because she became too attached to him for becoming teammates... i guess?? with naruto we at least see WHY sasuke means so much to him but we never get that with sakura so her crush seems shallow. and sasuke? he only ever saw sakura as a teammate/friend at best. he always rejected her romantic advances. also the fact that hes reserved around her and that sakura makes herself small with him as opposed to her usual personality with everyone else. getting together was bad for both of them :(

  • @lidiadiasdecastro4530

    @lidiadiasdecastro4530

    23 күн бұрын

    @@Blast_S_rank_1 That's fair and I actually really like Sasuke! I just don't think he should have ended up with Sakura in the end.

  • @BlueCheeseLucci

    @BlueCheeseLucci

    23 күн бұрын

    I mean she got what she wanted and pretty sure she is not surprised by Sasuke actions. Also Sasuke is doing a job and has to do it cause he really got off easy after the war

  • @EmberAwoken
    @EmberAwoken23 күн бұрын

    I can’t wait to get your take on Bleach. Considering you’ve read two of the “Big Three,” I think it’s almost necessary at this point that you start that!

  • @mecahhannah
    @mecahhannah19 күн бұрын

    ❤ Awesome as always thanks the side characters and women get more time to shine in the anime

  • @jamicassidy7955
    @jamicassidy795510 күн бұрын

    I only just started learning how to be a better writer, so any info is great. Writing female characters is not a strength of mine but always happy to learn how to improve. Great video.

  • @25redshark
    @25redshark23 күн бұрын

    Hot take, but I think Sakuras false confession to Naruto is really good. Is it uncomfortable to read? Yes. Its supposed to be. But Sakuras arc is about learning to understand people thru Sasuke and Naruto, since she did not go thru what they did growing up. Shes like us, the reader, kinda an audience surrogate, and while shes improves at understanding them, shes still not doing quite what they need. Also look at things from Sakuras perspective. Shes learned Naruto carries this heavy burden of the ninetails, but also feels responsible for the promise he made to her about Sasuke. He has, in a very short amt of time, lost control and jeopardized a mission, lost control and hurt her and almost hurt his team, was going to suicide by Sasuke, got his arm injured by his own jutsu, failed to get sasuke or itachi, lost his teacher, village got smooshed, lost control and barely won vs pain, got beat up for sasuke, and now is about to come to the defense of a criminal to the whole world. From Sakuras perspective, shes trying to potentially save Narutos life. Its a very selfless act coming from a character who was very selfish in part 1

  • @devilslayer3548

    @devilslayer3548

    23 күн бұрын

    I don’t understand why people got mad at that The point was to stop Naruto for going after sasuke and relieve him of that burden and end everything herself

  • @nerds-nonsense

    @nerds-nonsense

    23 күн бұрын

    @@devilslayer3548 people got mad because that's a really dumb thing to think given the context of their abilities and Sakura is generally shown to be pretty smart. Her choices are just frustrating to a lot of people.

  • @sarveshnathan7559

    @sarveshnathan7559

    23 күн бұрын

    Does Sakura really think Naruto did it just because of that promise, even though it's clear he cares about Sasuke? Even if Sakura convinces Naruto, and she does kill Sasuke, is she gonna tell him after that she was just lying to him so she can kill his best friend behind his back? The fact that she think this would work, after all the times she's rejected him? She is willing to break Naruto's heart on the off-chance that Naruto would believe her, just so she can kill Sasuke herself, which she failed to do anyway, making her a big hypocrite for trying to get Naruto to give up on Sasuke when she herself couldn't, and makes all that confession completely pointless. Her decision to lie to Naruto so she can kill Sasuke behind his back is one of the many reasons that caused Naruto to faint from hyperventilation. It's obvious that she's only said it to make herself feel less guilty about the promise. "Its a very selfless act coming from a character who was very selfish in part 1" The fact that Sakura thinks the main reason Naruto is going after Sasuke is because of the promise he made to her is selfishness. Almost like Naruto doesn't have his own reasons.

  • @sarveshnathan7559

    @sarveshnathan7559

    23 күн бұрын

    @@devilslayer3548 "I don’t understand why people got mad at that " I don't understand why people play dumb on why people get mad at that

  • @sarveshnathan7559

    @sarveshnathan7559

    23 күн бұрын

    @@nerds-nonsense "Sakura is generally shown to be pretty smart." And yet makes a lot of dumb choices.

  • @ghostchannel4766
    @ghostchannel476623 күн бұрын

    As for the combat vs. medical debate, Merph, I think part of it comes down to the audience understanding the complexities. For example, we learn the Rasengan is incredibly difficult from its chakra flow to shaping that chakra. It's so difficult that Naruto started off using Shadow Clones to compensate. The evolution of this is when Naruto has to learn the Rasenshuriken by infusing the Rasengan with Wind chakra. The audience has a good understanding of how this pipeline happened, and there is a strong uniqueness to it. Sasuke is generally on the opposite end where his combat techniques are more associated with cost. When he uses his Mangekyo Sharingan, there's a spiral into insanity and darkness for him as well as great pain and a risk of going blind. Every time Sasuke used it until EMS, those threats were constant. The entire 5 Kage Summit was seeing how complicated it was for Sasuke to learn new Mangekyo Sharingan techniques before his eyes or body gave out as he took on threats beyond his capabilities pre MS. In contrast, Sakura struggles on this front because medical ninjutsu is a bit more underdeveloped. The best technique medical ninjutsu has is...storing chakra until you want to release it, at which point the user is effectively immortal. We already don't necessarily know the ins and outs of it, so the capstone is more confusing. As for the men aspect, Madara directly insults Tsunade for her craft not measuring up to Hashirama, and the worst part is that he's right. Hashirama's cells alone lower the time limit of KotoAmatsukami from 10 years to a day. All of the strongest villains are utilizing it in some way or other to heal or adjust biological limitations. Tsunade's medical ninjutsu, her years of study and hard work, ultimately don't measure up to a guy who's been dead for a long time simply existing, and that's obviously very demeaning on its own. However, paired with the ambiguity of how medical ninjutsu works, it's worse. One begins to question why the seals *can't* accomplish similar feats. I hope this paints a clearer picture.

  • @joshfarrow9707
    @joshfarrow970723 күн бұрын

    Great video

  • @Junosensei
    @Junosensei23 күн бұрын

    Hinata was my favorite character in the show and I used to think she was well-written, all because she was the most relatable character to me and I struggled very strongly with skittishness and shyness at her age. Sadly, she got so very little attention overall. Her one moment post-time skip was hype and still stands as one of my favorite moments in the show (she did what just about no one else could do at the time), but her character arc is nonetheless centered around her feelings for a boy and too brief to carry the weight that many other characters carried. Honestly, I ended up liking her character arc in the "The Last" film more overall. It was a nice bridge between the ending and the epilogue. I just wish her motivations involved something other than pining for Naruto.

  • @malanala7371

    @malanala7371

    20 күн бұрын

    I agree. I still loved Hinata for the same reasons and still do to some extent, but I also admit she could have been a lot better. Hinata had a lot of potential to grow and become a fighter having gentle fist and byakugan. But Kishi chose not to develop it or her relationships to Kurenai (mom figure who took her in), Neji and team 8. People say that Hinaga was treated as just the love interest, but she didn’t even have the privilege to be treated as such either. Kishimoto reduced her screentime, gave her no scenes with Naruto because he was too fixated on creating the perfect red herring for the sakura x naruto x hinata love triangle scenario. Now that they're together, we dont even get to see them in Boruto as a couple. Worst, they wont let her be a mother in the show and manga.

  • @dominicmallano5633
    @dominicmallano563323 күн бұрын

    Sakura’s obsession with Sasuke even after he becomes a terrorist was really bad in my opinion.

  • @Blast_S_rank_1

    @Blast_S_rank_1

    23 күн бұрын

    This trash village is terrorist not Sasuke

  • @emperorluffy6001

    @emperorluffy6001

    23 күн бұрын

    Yes 😂

  • @MatheusNiisama

    @MatheusNiisama

    23 күн бұрын

    Was Naruto's obsession with Sasuke that much better tho.

  • @captainziggy82

    @captainziggy82

    23 күн бұрын

    @@MatheusNiisamano, they were both garbage lmao

  • @deathswitch2404

    @deathswitch2404

    23 күн бұрын

    Realistic though. Real love doesn't choose and suddenly stop when people mess up

  • @abigailaceves9230
    @abigailaceves923023 күн бұрын

    I’m not a Naruto fan, but I have seen a few videos criticizing the writing of the women in the series. So it surprised me to see a woman actually defend their role and impact to the story while so acknowledging the flaws in the writing. - - - - - BTW, love your videos on both your channels. Ever heard of Rumiko Takahashi?

  • @alwaysapirateroninace443
    @alwaysapirateroninace44319 күн бұрын

    The thoughts over why healers are devalued is really fascinating!

  • @goanceoe6502
    @goanceoe650223 күн бұрын

    Merphy pronunciation is the best!!

  • @Beast-jb6iv
    @Beast-jb6iv6 күн бұрын

    Saying that Sakura is weak considering her impact during the Kaguya fight where she was the only human being while Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi, and Obito were all essentially demigods during that fight is rediculous.

  • @animagamer2
    @animagamer221 күн бұрын

    I'm so grateful you had such an even-handed perspective on this! It drives me insane when people downplay the girls' achievements just because they aren't as strong as Naruto and Sasuke. A statement that holds true for 98% of the cast. The fact remains that the women of Naruto are some of the most influential badasses in the past 2 decades. Especially Sakura, whose infamous scene I will continue to argue, has much more depth than people give it credit for. I do ultimately agree with the perspective that there's a lot of missed potential with the female cast though- it would have been awesome to see powerful Jounin like Kurenai and Anko get a real chance to show their stuff. I mean, Kurenai is literally the best Genjutsu user in the whole village- without magic eyes! And Anko, don't get me started on Anko. Nothing screams missed opportunity more than Anko.

  • @Far623
    @Far62322 күн бұрын

    Great Video! It put alot of perspective on the topic of I would even say Shonen female character in general. Honestly, I never had a problem with a character's focus being on a love interest as long as it informs a bit of character, which is why I like Hinata's crush over say Sakura's crush. That Hinata's character may be looking at Naruto and saying his name, but she's herself stated that she looks at him as a pillar of confidence. Knowing that Naruto is sure in himself makes her feel as she can be sure in her own actions, and that I feel is a good basis to have a crush be worked into a character. The problem of course coming in that she's never actually allowed to show that growth and we get snippets of her through the story, As Naruto is a story about war trauma and how that can break bonds, not really focusing on too much on happiness that could be found in between that those times. Had Naruto had time to explore more thing I would feel like Hinata's character would've not got as squandered. Though I feel that gets blown up, similarly to how you said, to focus on just the bad. That because there is this one iffy element that the whole story can never try to correct itself. Sometimes not even by the merit of the series itself but by others in the same genre. Dragonball is always brought into discussions since most Shonens constantly get compared to it as the bedrock of the genre, and I feel that means some of it's issues kinda bled into other series purely out of hitting similar beats that many people see even if it doesn't align 100%. People often think of Toriyama's 90% rate of female fighting character getting married and no longer being a prominent fighter. So when they see that someone in a different series going down a similar path say someone Sakura, they are become pretty dismissive. Which ironically is spreading a "trauma" forward that eventually leads to a hate of these characters, which is only slightly funny. This is not to say people aren't entitled to how they feel a character is written, just that often it coming from the worry that another series that is popular has become known for saying "Oh I hope this doesn't become a Dragonball, or a Naruto, or a One Piece" situation. And it doesn't apply to everyone and isn't the single answer to the why people hate how female characters are written in manga, but as a long time manga fan you often see that fear be created due to another manga's decision, even if there is very little overlap in writing and characters. There is for sure alot to celebrate in female characters, that even the male main characters display, such as kindness and the willing to give it their very all until the bitter end. Even if not every character is getting the final punch on every big bad that doesn't degrade from how much their character is giving all the way there. Like you said it's a very strong message, I feel doubly so due to many of the themes of shonens is picking your own path and helping how you want to help. Once again a great video, they are always fun with so much passion!

  • @troyii435
    @troyii43523 күн бұрын

    I am glad you have appreciated these things as well. I always felt that despite it all, Naruto actually does extremely well at giving deep respect to the medicinal and health focused ideals as well as professions. Ironically, the role and profession that tends to be filled with women gets a lot of respect and depth as a field worthy of investment. I also felt that the fact that he gave the female characters many movements of genuine, painful vulnerability as well as moments of deep conviction and resilience was something rare to see and greatly appreciated. I do think the female characters often don’t feel that they live up to all of their potential but frankly I believe that that applies to most Naruto characters and it mostly feels that way because we are exposed to so many interesting and constantly developing characters already.

  • @trehanzy1776
    @trehanzy177623 күн бұрын

    The saddest argument around Kushina is that in most extra media her personhood is boiled down to just being a wife/mother with no focus on her skills as a ninja

  • @TerrelSam

    @TerrelSam

    23 күн бұрын

    Even in the games where they had the most freedom. They made her attacks all centre around being a housewife. Like using a frying pan as a weapon

  • @yumin_pluto558

    @yumin_pluto558

    23 күн бұрын

    @@TerrelSam Despite the fact that she was training to become Hokage before she fell in love with Minato. I think that whole backstory is what made me hate him as a character. Outside of that backstory I just think he's kind of boring, but with it he is the excuse that was given for why Naruto's mom was just a mom without any ambition, despite having it previously. Like I can respect characters choosing to settle down or just be a parent, but there's nothing that bridges "I want to be Hokage!" and "I'm fine with just being a housewife." Maybe I just read too much One Piece, but wasn't that your dream? Okay, you've become the Hokage's wife, don't you have any skills to help him out then? Any official capacity? No, just a housewife with a gag frying pan?

  • @user-pv3nh5rd1m

    @user-pv3nh5rd1m

    23 күн бұрын

    How much of that extra media is canon? In the actual anime we see her in really all of four or five episodes. Which are almost entirely centered around Naruto’s birth. And even then we see her given a lot of character development that is removed from being a wife or mother. As for her skills, she suppressed the nine tails multiple times. Something we’ve seen maybe two or three people ever do.

  • @grinko1222

    @grinko1222

    23 күн бұрын

    When did she give up being hokage or a ninja? She was a mom yes but it's not she gave up. She was pregnant, that's all.

  • @Swagjutsusolosfiction

    @Swagjutsusolosfiction

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@TerrelSam 🤦‍♂️That's depending on the outfit you use. If you use housewife kushina you literally get her with the pan, if you use jonin kushina she pumbles you to death.

  • @serenityartofficial
    @serenityartofficial21 күн бұрын

    To answer your question about why healing is seen as bad. It's not being a healer that's bad. It's that female characters are often regulated to that role, with few men maybe filling them, while very few females get to do battle, if they even ever do, but mostly men fight. There are clever ways to tackle that sort of level of sexism, like what we see in Avatar the Last Airbender where the female water tribe members in the North were regulated to being healers because of a sexist belief they had, and Katara challenged that by "disrespecting Master Paku's culture, beliefs and himself", but he later acknowledged the potential in women as fighters. Same with Sokka, as he was a product of that same belief. My point is that if something like that was a part of the culture in the Naruto-verse, it would've made some more sense. It actually could've been a strong motivator for many if not all the female characters to push beyond the limits society places on them. That's one way I see that "female = healer" could've been "fixed" in any story. Another way would've been to just write female characters better.

  • @oversol5469
    @oversol54699 күн бұрын

    I think most the prominent or cinematic abilities were performed by the male chacters so that makes them more memorable. A character like Shikamaru has shadow manipulation and Ino one of his team members specializes in phycic abilities like mind swapping and mind control.

  • @ryanhfc
    @ryanhfc23 күн бұрын

    I think you offer such an interesting point of view, believe it or not there's not many mothers who cover shonen animanga such as Naruto. I've always been a fan of many Naruto women but I think that's been reinforced even more after hearing your point of view. I don't think you can find many people who can represent the topic better than you, and you done a really good job with this video.

  • @elementcreed257
    @elementcreed25723 күн бұрын

    The problem i mainly have with how Sakura's writing was handled was how inconsistent it tended to be, almost as if Kishimoto couldn't commit to making her a skilled and powerful ninja just like the other team 7 memebers. Sakura's comeback at the start of shippuden was IMPRESSIVE to say the least, she comes back as a highly intelligent medical ninja who outshines the entirety of the hidden sands medical unit and saves Kankuro's life, she plays a massive role in defeating the first akatsuki member taken out in the series while demonstrating how truly skilled she is in both combat and intellect, but then, all this momentum just dies. She doesn't have anymore big standout moments up until the war and practically just exists when Naruto and Sasuke are involved, we don't see her training in the background or interact meaningfully with anyone but Naruto. In the five kage summit arc she's essentially used as a plot device for Naruto, Sasuke and Kakashi to be more interesting, even during the war Kishimoto manages to sneak in the fact that she was so disappointed when Sasuke didn't care about her after Madara stabbed her, despite the fact that the last time she saw him he tried to mercilessly kill her in cold blood so by all means she really shouldn't have been surprised, but for some reason Kishi thought that any sane person would care about such during the potential end of the world. Small inconsistencies and a lack of hype make her the least interesting in team 7 to most viewers (She's still my fav character though, hence why i have so much to say about her so forgive me lol). It also doesn't help that she doesn't display any unique abilities throughout shippuden beyond everything Tsunade can do but vaguely better, basically turning her into Tsunade 2.0. You'd expect a main character to have at least one new technique to improve upon all they were taught but Kishimoto doesn't do this for her and instead goes down the lazier route, she's still really cool imo though, just needed a bit of polish.

  • @ZevsMika
    @ZevsMika23 күн бұрын

    Tsunade is my favorite Naruto character!

  • @HotshotMC
    @HotshotMC23 күн бұрын

    my goat, finally someone with an audience says the facts.

  • @ZombalayaQ
    @ZombalayaQ20 күн бұрын

    Oh Tenten, even in conversations that just focus on the women, you get overlooked and forgotten 😭😭

  • @prathamakamble5834

    @prathamakamble5834

    17 күн бұрын

    They even forgot hinata what do you expect 💀

  • @osonhouston
    @osonhouston23 күн бұрын

    Sakura is a genjutsu master. I think if Kishimoto had focused on that aspect of her skill before she became a medical ninja, Western audiences would have received her better.

  • @dudeguy8686

    @dudeguy8686

    22 күн бұрын

    Would have been a solid path, if Kurenai wasn't also called a genjutsu master, the best in the Leaf, only to get handled like a child by Itachi. That basically made genjutsu a joke of a technique for the rest of the series, if it wasn't Sharingan'd.

  • @noavgg
    @noavgg23 күн бұрын

    Think that Naruto has overall good female characters. The problem they have is the samma as most other characters that aren't Naruto or someone with a sharingan is that they didn't get enough screen time. Would rely have liked to see more of Hinata, to se more of the huga clan and how they were suppose to be a rivel to the Uchiha and there sharingan.

  • @glockb1604
    @glockb160423 күн бұрын

    Thank you! This video mirrored so many of my own thoughts on this subject, especially with Sakura and the missed potential! It's so sad to see that potential wasted because it feels like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Kishimoto thinks he can't write women well, so then he doesn't try, leading to people having issues with his female characters, which then reinforces the idea he can't write women well.

  • @JOSHPODGE
    @JOSHPODGE7 күн бұрын

    great commentary. i feel like it boils down to: 1. screen/page time 2. sooo many discarded side characters 3. SAKURA you point it out really well in your lee vs sakura comparison. it’s the same shit, lee just got more love, more time, and a stronger journey-probably cause Kishimoto felt comfy writing Lee! Some of the women needed more time for us to see them go through a development that felt real, well-paced, and satisfying. Sakura’s training happens in the time skip and she gets discarded by mid shippuden, Hinata has little independence outside of Naruto. i Would’ve LOVED to see her inventing her jutsus, or reforming her clan, or developing a better relationship with Hanabi, ANYTHING. building off of that, as others have pointed out, one of the biggest criticisms I have of Shippuden is how sooo many side characters are just forgotten. so much potential we never get to see come to fruition and i think the women end up getting scrutinized heavily as a result which is a bit unfair. i really appreciate your video because there ARE well written women in this series and they deserve to be celebrated. I think Sakura’s visibility makes it even EASIER to disregard the merit and value all of these women bring in their own ways to the story. It’s unfortunate but having her right there with Naruto and Sasuke doesn’t do her many favors, her relationship with Sasuke is really hard to swallow at some points, and a lot of people just HATE her. i’m not even saying she deserves the hate, i don’t think she does at all. but because she sticks out like a sore thumb, she naturally becomes the example and frankly i think some of the vitriol directed towards her is giving misogynist

  • @AverageBananas12
    @AverageBananas1223 күн бұрын

    -Understood the complexity of Goku giving Cell a senzu bean on her first read through -Defends Kishimoto's attempt at writing female characters Merphy is on a damn roll!

  • @crocoboi7936

    @crocoboi7936

    23 күн бұрын

    Yeah sometimes we need people like Merphy who challenges the fanbases of popular anime

  • @cjsdizzy

    @cjsdizzy

    23 күн бұрын

    I know! 😊

  • @CoOlKyUbI96

    @CoOlKyUbI96

    22 күн бұрын

    True rat behavior. We love to see it

  • @bastion4975
    @bastion497523 күн бұрын

    Thank you for making this video. I've always liked the women in Naruto, whether it is because I'm biased due to this show being such a big part of my childhood or that they are legitimately well written. I liked how nuanced the discussion was because most of the time, people criticize these women in absolutes instead of actually picking apart and seeing their strengths and weaknesses. And I just find that very reductive and frustrating. Especially when they are obvious examples of well written female characters in the story (including Sakura, specifically in the timeskip), yet people always seem to just deliberately exclude them from the discussion or devalue their valuable actions in order to further push their rhethoric/argument. Again, thanks for the nuanced discussion. It feels nice to feel some validation.

  • @nerds-nonsense

    @nerds-nonsense

    23 күн бұрын

    Most people would argue that if you have to cherry-pick thru the story to defend their writing they weren't a well written character. Look at Katara, *that's* an obviously well written character. They're not being devalued, they're cool characters, in a vacuum, and they do cool stuff, in a vacuum, the problem is they fall apart when compared to characters that are written as well-rounded people. When kishimoto writes men he just writes a person, when he writes women he's *trying* to write a woman, he's trying to give her woman-like motivation. He's not thinking, "what would someone do here?" He's thinking, "what do women care about, what's a good motivation for a woman? Oh, I know! Boys! Women care about boys and looking pretty." Even in a utilitarian ninja world where traditional gender roles logically wouldn't even exist.

  • @botanbutton

    @botanbutton

    22 күн бұрын

    @@nerds-nonsense This! This! Showa era Japanese men have this BAD.

  • @nedeemmalik
    @nedeemmalik6 күн бұрын

    I stg the hate of women in naruto is truly just based off sakura not being a fellow god along side naruto / sasuke. Also the “i love you” ploy from sakura genuinely killed her off to humanity

  • @711LeveN_Z
    @711LeveN_Z23 күн бұрын

    Hohoho let’s goo this video probably gonna blow up

  • @94evangelion
    @94evangelion23 күн бұрын

    I will say this in defense of Kishimoto, the anime was much worse about the portrayal of the female cast with the flanderization, sexualization, & cutting out key scenes/even outright altering key scenes

  • @devilslayer3548

    @devilslayer3548

    23 күн бұрын

    It wasn’t that much sexualization in Naruto compared to other anime

  • @94evangelion

    @94evangelion

    23 күн бұрын

    ​​​@@devilslayer3548 well, there is a increase in chest size with Hinata, which is problematic since she started in the series at age 12. That being said, even though the anime was much worse about the female cast portrayal, Kishimoto is still not that great at writing the girls & he gets worse about it Post-Pain

  • @CoOlKyUbI96

    @CoOlKyUbI96

    22 күн бұрын

    I remember first watching the anime and thinking how Sakura’s character was really nasty. So many times she would punch or slap Naruto. Sometimes it was justified, sometimes I felt it was too excessive. Then years later I read through the manga only to discover that the amount of times Sakura hits Naruto is significantly less

  • @94evangelion

    @94evangelion

    21 күн бұрын

    @@CoOlKyUbI96 and also, the anime remove alot of the positive Sakura scenes from the manga. Cuz in the manga, there is a lot of scenes where she is very supportive of Naruto & his dream, especially in the Chunin Exams.

  • @CoOlKyUbI96

    @CoOlKyUbI96

    21 күн бұрын

    @@94evangelion yeah it was almost as if I was seeing an entirely different character. So many fans were probably exposed to the anime instead and that’s probably why they hate Sakura?

  • @ahmed61299
    @ahmed6129923 күн бұрын

    merphy is a blessing

  • @mysro99
    @mysro9918 күн бұрын

    Been really enjoying the Naruto reviews. I hope you check out one of my favorites D.Gray-man one day

  • @tareeqbrown6724
    @tareeqbrown672416 күн бұрын

    I think the reason why people don't view being a medic as important as being a fighter, is because this is a shonen anime/ manga series where everyone is supposed to be action packed so viewers and readers aren't really looking for the support teams they're looking for the action

  • @TEG13
    @TEG1323 күн бұрын

    What's worse, though, Karens negative presence or Tenten's lack of it?

  • @Wallie759
    @Wallie75923 күн бұрын

    People generally dont like girls being the healers because its an established trope at this point. You see it in video games the most where the girl is always the medic while the boys fight and take hits. Its not necessarily bad, but the connotation is that the healer is always passive and reactive without their own agency. Many people thus equate the trope of girls being healers to them basically being passive and on the sidelines healing people and not part of the action. Its an important thing happening in the story but also puts them out of the story essentially. Pain invading konoha for example. Sakura is healing people in a hospital and thats great and all but she's basically a silent background character at that point. Thats mainly why I think the healer criticism is a thing. Healers stand and watch and dont get cool moments in shonen where people come for action. Its also kinda meh that we never see super competent medic males. The only real named one is kabuto

  • @isacami25

    @isacami25

    23 күн бұрын

    i forgot that kabuto was also a medic

  • @grinko1222

    @grinko1222

    23 күн бұрын

    That's bs. Healers aren't passive and deserve more respect. Healers are support but so what? They're one ones carrying their team.

  • @nerds-nonsense

    @nerds-nonsense

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@grinko1222 I mean, they're saying how thing are, not should be. We're talking about Shonen, action manga/anime for boys, yes healers are generally seen and written as passive. Most of the women in Naruto *are* passive during most of the story, they didn't carry anything. Look at Katara from Atla, her roll as support was not undermined at all. The audience matters.

  • @grinko1222

    @grinko1222

    23 күн бұрын

    @@nerds-nonsense Explain Kabuto then.

  • @oyamampendu9467

    @oyamampendu9467

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@nerds-nonsense in Orochimaru was part of the medical ninja and he never surpassed Tsunade. Kabuto was the reason for Sasuke living

  • @sylviejeanjean5412
    @sylviejeanjean541222 күн бұрын

    It's beautiful that Kushina chooses to focus on being a mom and caring about her family, and I love her character, but again Minato never had to make such a choice

  • @ToriTalks2
    @ToriTalks223 күн бұрын

    Tsunade is badass. Totally agree with you on her character. Temari is also one of my favorites. :D

  • @Nasser851000
    @Nasser85100023 күн бұрын

    7:18 Merphy Bloopers XD

  • @seandale9477
    @seandale947723 күн бұрын

    As someone who loves Sakura Haruno and Tsunade, this was an interesting video to watch.

  • @sarveshnathan7559

    @sarveshnathan7559

    23 күн бұрын

    Lmao at loving Sakura

  • @oyamampendu9467

    @oyamampendu9467

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@sarveshnathan7559 2024 hating mocking someone for liking wht others are told to hate

  • @dowoomsday

    @dowoomsday

    17 күн бұрын

    @@sarveshnathan7559 p@jeet

  • @dazaiosamu7184
    @dazaiosamu718417 күн бұрын

    First time watching your video and I'll have to say that your understanding of Naruto and it's themes is probably the best among all people on this site. Boruto is kishimoto's series and the manga is supervised by him, he took over the script writing from Kodachi around chapter 55, and the series has overall 80+10 chapters. (The artist is Ikemoto and he's been Kishi's assistant from the very beginning, he designed haku and zabuza) I'd highly recommend reading the manga because boruto builds on the themes of Naruto and explores the concept of what it means to be a shinobi.

  • @eavila7989
    @eavila798923 күн бұрын

    The Rage we hear in murpheys voice when she says “SHUT UP KARIN” I’m here for it 😂

  • @aether5031
    @aether503123 күн бұрын

    Theyre underutilized, for sure. But its hard for me to argue that a character is both underutilized and well written. Because if they were well written, they would feel satisfying in the story

  • @paulogaspar8295

    @paulogaspar8295

    23 күн бұрын

    and they do. Ino, hinata, tsunade, kushina, chiyo, kaguya all had satisfying character arcs. The problem is that they where all secundary characters like most characters are in naruto except for naruto and sasuke. People are just mad that the main strong characters are not woman and that sakura never had god like powers like the 2 main guys in the series.

  • @AlexanderMunoz-zl9sz

    @AlexanderMunoz-zl9sz

    23 күн бұрын

    ​@@paulogaspar8295💀

  • @SpikedKirby

    @SpikedKirby

    23 күн бұрын

    @@paulogaspar8295 no... they didnt. Kaguya litteraly poped out, said nothing and died

  • @Vax_XXIV

    @Vax_XXIV

    23 күн бұрын

    @@paulogaspar8295 What is Ino's character arc please explain???

  • @ShouryaRathore

    @ShouryaRathore

    23 күн бұрын

    @@Vax_XXIV did you not watch the war arc

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