Quick update… Bonehead just tweeted me, and apparently Noel actually recorded Boneheads guitar part in the studio version.

@DenKulesteSomFins

3 жыл бұрын

I was pretty sure on this. Noel is a notorious control freak in the studio

@WayneCatlin

3 жыл бұрын

@@DenKulesteSomFins For years and years I've idolised Noel, but the last 18 months or so... I'm hearing more and more that's seriously changing my opinion of him...

@DenKulesteSomFins

3 жыл бұрын

@@WayneCatlin oasis wouldn't get where they are without noel whipping them into shape. With that said, the way he has treated Tony and others is seriously abusive I don't think being in a band with him would be pleasant

@richfromtheligerz4922

3 жыл бұрын

So cool he tweeted you

@neil7994

3 жыл бұрын

How do you feel about that, I wonder? Pretty sure it must have pissed off Bonehead; it's not like he's incompetent.

This guy probably knows more about Oasis than every member of the band combined.

@rainboat3842

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@s.storumus8620

3 жыл бұрын

They were all probably too high and drunk to even remember

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahaha don't think anyone will ever know more about the band than Noel

@s.storumus8620

3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesHargreavesGuitar maybe Owen Norris?

@jaymueller2418

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely he knows more than Liam.

They do sound gorgeous together, but I can actually see why they got rid of it. It makes the song sound more like other bands of the era, whereas the more stripped back and uncomplicated, instantly recognizable linear melody that's more prominent, is pure Oasis. No frills, just an iconic simplicity.

@calebrouth7849

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn’t have said it better

@javierganzarain4559

Жыл бұрын

I'm with you there, though I can't help to think how cool it would be if bonehead alternated between doubling Noel and harmonising to set some variety

your attention to detail is commendable

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Rhys!

You can watch every Oasis video from Bonehead's era and you will never see him make a mistake. People don't realize how important rhythm guitar is and how good he was at it.

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah definitely. He was mega important to the Oasis sound and vibe, and once he left, the band was never the same again

@eatvietnam2682

3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesHargreavesGuitar agreed. That was the end of Oasis, for me personally.

@eatvietnam2682

3 жыл бұрын

@P JL totally agree

I remember way back in the day around 1996 I bought the sheet music for Wonderwall from a music store and the tablature had both sets of chords. I remember being really confused by this and didn't know what these other chords were doing there since you don't hear them on the studio recording. It all makes sense now.

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting, never seen that set of music! I only ever had the one with all the wrong chords haha

Those Bonehead chords are gorgeous and indeed a gorgeous chord sequence.

The blended chord patter sounds absolutely beautiful, that should have been how the album version sounded. cant help but admire your dedication to the oasis-detective-rabbit hole :)

never have i watched a video so thorough brilliant and insightful this was phenomenal keep it up

That chord progression sounds awesome. Gotta hand it to you (James) you have revealed so much interesting stuff about Oasis. You have a keen eye/ear for interesting videos

Great video James - thanks for taking the time to research and share this

Really interesting video mate. Thanks. Love the way the guitars sound together. :)

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers KFCB - yeah they blend well! I love that thing of doubled up chords in different voicings. Always sounds cool!

i hadn’t noticed this before but it’s such a nice addition great video man

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Damn it, KZread deleted my reply AGAIN. Cheers Ethan! Yeah I love the way the guitars blend. Would have been cool to hear an alternate mix with more guitar blending

Brilliant video James never knew this and the chords sound great ❤️

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's a cool part!

Another really interesting job! James is like an Oasis oracle!

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks CSD! Glad you enjoyed

I always thought that the two different guitar parts are what makes the song sound so magical because it's hardly recognisable but you still feel that there's more to the lead guitar. Boneheads guitar is put in just perfectly (not too loud, not too low in the mix) :)

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the Owen Morris mix was bang on, I just always thought it would be interesting to hear an alternate mix too with the guitar balance changed

@TheInternetIsDeadToMe

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree with this. The second guitar being as low as it is in the mix slightly changes the character of the main guitar.

Another brilliant video 👍🏻

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jonathan! 🍻🍻🍻

I could always sense that; it's beautiful. It's more of a chiming that ends on each beat, almost like a reggae song (Bonehead thought "Wonderwall" was a reggae-esque song when he first heard Noel play it). I love these little nooks and crannies you can sense throughout the album. "She's Electric" has a ton of backing details as well. A barred chord played without actually pressing down on the high strings is a suspended chord. Love your stuff James!!! Magnificent!!!

Excellent video, James.

Finding these little musical clues hidden in plain sight is illuminating, nice work as usual mate - the Indiana Jones of guitar transcriptions!

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Pauly! It's great fun to research too

I have always noticed these chords in the background and wondered what they were. That's pretty amazing by Noel. IMO they are not that buried deep in the mix, but it it takes trained ears to notice it.

James - I would love if you would interview Bonehead on your channel one day.

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Damn it the comment got deleted by youtube AGAIN. Hi Neil - yeah that would be awesome! I'd love to get the opportunity

@neil7994

3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesHargreavesGuitar What is with KZread deleting your comments?!

This channel is so forensic, it's fantastic.

The version you played with them mixed together and boneheads chords louder sounds like an awesome new track on its own!

Exceptional work!

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tyler! 🍻🍻🍻

Absolutely fascinating video - after watching it I played along with the song with Bonehead’s parts - I totally agree he is often under-appreciated.

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Damn it, KZread deleted my reply AGAIN. Thanks Simon, yeah he's the man! Massively important to the Oasis sound in the 90s

@SimonRobinson137

3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesHargreavesGuitar Thanks for letting me know about the deletetion - I thought I was going crazy as I got an alert but no comment - so thanks for taking the time to reply again - I really enjoy all your videos - cheers

Love these videos brother💯

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it

That Aadd9 chord sounds lush. I'm going to have to nick it 😁

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's a beaut. Move it up 2 frets you've got the opening chord to 'All Around The World'

James, the 13th member of Oasis💪🙌

@zammozimm3120

3 жыл бұрын

I excluded the keyboard players......

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha where's my royalty cheques...

Fascinating discovery - it's interesting to imagine an alternate mix where this part is more prominent. That 3rd chord really jumps out because of the high G# from the from the barred E major, I think it creates a nice dissonance with the top A that Noel clearly plays throughout his famous sequence. And the 4th chord (B Major) introduces a D# which again is a semitone lower than the E which Noel is playing. When repeated, the E-D#-C# descent heard in Bonehead's sequence actually gives off a "Supersonic" vibe. It may be that Noel heard the dissonant notes and told Bonehead to drop the sequence because he wanted the live version of their new single to have a simpler, rockier sound, and any attempt at subtle dissonance would have sounded muddy under all that distortion they used on stage at the time. Or, to repeat some other comments here, it could just be that he couldn't play the bloody thing in time 😂

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I love the way the different voicings of the chords add loads of extra 'crunchy' notes. Sounds ace

*GOOD TO BE BACK* ❤️

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

But of course 🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻

very cool, thank you James

This is really cool! Thanks 👍

Great stuff mate 🙏

Brilliant stuff thank you!

Fucking top video James! Congrats on getting in the charts once again!

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Conor! 🍻🍻🍻🍻

Amazing video, really a beuatiful job and love to the song

It does sound awesome, thanks for finding the chords, I'm going to try playing it.

Great detective work! The final part, where you blend the two guitar parts, very much reminds me of It's Better People. I guess they did a similar trick, there.

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Cool, thanks!

That chord progression sounds amazing, bit late now but ima give that a bash when I get home from work tomorrow 👍🏼🎸

thank you!!

That's really cool. It adds a lot...❤️

Great mate. I first heard this on its release, in '95 i think, cos I was saying to these guys from the YMCA that there's been no good music since the Beatles and the Stones from the sixties, and he played me this album I'd never heard of 'em before. I always loved the acoustic sound on it. Funny that I and many better players than me, have figured out that the Beatles and the Stones did a lot of this double voicing of guitars. The Stones did it with different open tunings and capo's, and lots of what you call "all around the world style" a term haven't heard before I just called it a drone. I also have spent time going through old you tube footage to try and figure out what they are doing. And yes the rule is they never do live what they do in the studio, but nicely done film archology digging it out of that video based on the dates. I've even goner though the online recording session lists and photos if only it was as easy as in the Mull of Kintyre video. Coda: Now since '95 I have to go "nothing good after the Beatles and Stones except Oasis and...and... Not got the same ring to it though. Thanks for the vid.

a sighting of bonehead not playing bar chords is rarer than a sighting of the Loch Ness monster

@mralex2492

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/kZ-flbGGeLeum9o.html

I love that A Chord Shape! Liam uses it on Love Like A Bomb! Main Chords throughout E-Aadd9-D-G-E! Oh also Gem Archer helps in the writing department, so maybe it was him that suggested that Chord instead of the Regular A Mj!? Thanks again James

It sounds amazing 🤩

This is amazing mate. Sounds very much like D’yer Know What I Mean too

I've always loved finding the little quirks in songs on rock band

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Damn it, KZread deleted my reply AGAIN. Yeah me too - I love digging around in those stems!

Fascinating discovery, however although the two parts do sound great together it just isn’t Wonderwall when you can hear those other chords that prominently.

@mattwuk

2 жыл бұрын

It makes it sound more like a Coldplay tune, probably why it was dropped.

Nice video !!

Noel just tweeted me and asked who Bonehead is.

Excellent video

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it 👍👍

Youre the Sherlock of Oasis. Awesome insight 👏. Thank you

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome 👍👍🎸🎸

So, he played D'You Know What I Mean

@ZakynthosDiamandis

3 жыл бұрын

Probably why Noel changed it. I once heard/read him say something like "I should get at least 3 three songs out of that chord sequence." Also note how Noel played Wonderwall for the first time backstage at Glastonbury 1995.

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. Identical sequence haha

The song sounds much richer with both sequences combined it’s like honey and sunshine poured into my ears

Sounds really nice.

Aww man, that's magical!

As a wise man once said-they’re playing guitar just like ringing a bell (paraphrased.) It’s truly beautiful!

How are you still only on 8k subscribers? That is a fantastic bit of detective work. Not 100% sure I agree with you on it though, I like the really clean guitar that Noel plays in Wonderwall and suspect that he did too and thought that Boneheads chords dirtied the water a little, especially since Noel goes on about his "genius" pivot note in several interviews. Also, the Bonehead sequence reminds me too much of the Chorus from Coldplay's Paradise. Loved the video and agree with Sam though - you probably know more about Oasis than the whole band put together! Great work!

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha thanks smitcher Re the mix - yeah I do agree that the Owen Morris mix was and is definitive. I just would have been curious to hear an alternate mix with a different balance of guitars, that's all

@smitcher

3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesHargreavesGuitar Definitely would love to hear a mix that was truer to the original.

You are doing God's work sir. Thank You.

Best channel around ATM

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Ricky! 🍻🍻🍻🍻

Too drawer quality content yet again James, keep it up 👍

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Adam! More to come mate 👍👍👍🎸🎸🎸

The second guitar part actually sounds like it's all open chords, which makes sense if Noel played it. The F# chord is the same as the typcial F# chord found in Supersonic and Listen Up. The A chord is the A sus chord from Champagne Supernova, the E chord is trickier to make out but is probably a regular E major chord with the major third sometimes muted on the G string, and the B chord sounds exactly like the Shakermaker chord. You can make out that major third of the B chord played on the D string. In the chorus, there's also an open D major chord being played if you listen close to the multitrack...you can hear that high major third on the top E string on the isolated guitar stem. Even if Bonehead is doing barre chords in the video, i'm pretty sure it's open chords here for the second acoustic guitar. The top E and B strings are always ringing in all of these chords except for the D major in the chorus. Try it out and it will sound identical.

Brilliant!

You crazy man... Thanks for this. Have to say the final version sounds better though.

I had never noticed this before, sounds great

Excellent video for Oasis fans!

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Henry, glad you enjoyed

Cool video James, love how you do your investigative work and discover these small details! Would you be able to do more Stone Roses stuff soon maybe?

@jaidenbowkett

3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesHargreavesGuitar A video on Fools Gold would be awesome but I think that even the short version would be an absolute pain to decipher ha! Sorry to be picky James, any content from you is great 👍🏻

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaidenbowkett Cool idea. Fools Gold... Were you thinking a track by track analysis, or a complete tab kind of thing? Or something else?

@jaidenbowkett

3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesHargreavesGuitar A complete tab would be absolutely brilliant but if it were to be too difficult an analysis video would be as equally cool. Cheers James!

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Hmmmm. Interesting idea. The problem with Fools Gold is that JS's guitar parts are low in the mix AND played with a wah, meaning they are an absolute bugger to transcribe. That being said... I'm not saying no...

@jaidenbowkett

3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesHargreavesGuitar Cool, can’t wait for what’s next!

I did this alot in a previous band i was in. When i joined alot of the songs were played with a capo, but because i was the lead player i didnt want to use one, so i played barre chords while the other guitarist played open chords with a capo. It can add a nice layer of density and variation to a chord sequence that i have always enjoyed.

blended one sounds enchanting!!!

Awesome !

correct decision to drop the bonehead tracks :P

Nice work

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

That's why this song is so good

When you combined both sequences together, it sounded so damn mega - it was like hearing Wonderwall in an alternative universe or something. Do you think that if Bonehead's track was more noticeable in the mix when it was released, that it would have made as much of an impact on the industry as it did? Anyways, great video mate.

Brilliant 👍🏻

I like the two parts blended myself

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah me too. Would have been cool to hear an alternate mix with more blended guitars in the balance

cheers man interesting stuff. lots go into records. its never a simle process.

@mrdickywaters

2 жыл бұрын

and its certainly not simple either ;-)

I'm sure my cousin had a guitar tab book back in the late 90s and the chords were F# barre chord we used to laugh about it. Great video again though, you really do have an eye for detail

Hey James, I was wondering if you could breakdown the two-guitar-riffs in the Wonderwall bridge...no tab on the web has yet pulled those two layers off!

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Hi David - I've already done this, if this is any good? kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZHp4krKDm5C4gZM.html

@SirMerx

3 жыл бұрын

Gonna check that out then! Cheers :)

Very good video

Hi, thanks for the videos! On the two guitars clips at 0:55 I hear an open B7 chord (listen to the D# note played on the 4th string, it's clearly there). So maybe there is one more guitar playing this open chord buried in the mix?

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I wondered that myself, it does sound like an open B7 going to an E... but I thought it had to be Bonehead, and took my cues from the Wonderwall video. Of course, it turned out to be Noel playing Boneheads part, so it could be that he did play an open B7

@ James Hargreaves It's official that Paul Arthurs is a bonafide legend.

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaha truth

wow..you're a genius 👏

You should get a Grammy or something for this man.

Nice detective work geez...I learnt something 👍

The harmony is really good

they sound great together but i do like noels verse more, maybe if it were blended but just a bit more audible. still an incredible song, nearly 30 years later and we're still learning new stuff about it

It's interesting.. I can understand both why they didn't mix up the chords and why they should have. Gorgeous harmonics!

It works well and it sounds stereo too. Why didn't they make Bonehead's acoustic part louder? The pre-chorus part of this song is a great example, both of that acoustic and electric melody part played a bit different and it worked well.

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

No idea! Much as I love the Owen Morris mix of the song, it would have been cool to also hear an alternate mix with a bit more of a guitar blend going on

That’s some great detective work. Love it. The blended version would have been so much better

Well that was great it's progression sounded so good together You're right they probably should have boosted that up it would never have noticed that really

Brilliant

holy moly.

Oasis had a habit of simplifying their guitar parts after they had performed songs live. Cigarettes and alcohol and some might say are examples of this. Noel just ended up playing the rhythm parts, which is a shame. I love the lead parts of those songs. I guess it's Noel being lazy or wanting less pieces that could fall apart live

@charliesundown3180

3 жыл бұрын

It's a shame that he just started playing the rhythm parts live. Although it's still great, Morning Glory really misses the lead refrain when they played it during that era.

@DenKulesteSomFins

3 жыл бұрын

@@charliesundown3180 yes that's another one. He should have at least started doing it when Gem came on board

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Damn it, KZread deleted my reply AGAIN. Yeah I agree - and Noel often missed out all the cool lead parts on Supersonic live (unless he knew the cameras were rolling for a TV special or a DVD!!)

@iamthenarwal9559

3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesHargreavesGuitar even their first live tv appearance they didn’t do the arpeggio intro for some reason

@DenKulesteSomFins

3 жыл бұрын

@@iamthenarwal9559 I'm sure that was for time saving, the song was arranged as complicated as the studio version. The arpeggio intro is one of the least complicated parts of the song

The Sherlock Holmes of Indy Music.

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Damn it, KZread deleted my reply AGAIN. Thanks Nick! I seem to remember quoting 'It's all elementary my friend' at you...

@DrunkChimp

3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesHargreavesGuitar You did... I saw the comment before it got deleted! Cheers James

Brilliant analysis, but it definitely sounds better with the bone head part low in the mix.

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the Owen Morris mix is definitive, but I always would have been curious to hear an alternate mix with a different guitar blend

Nice detective work!!

The Bonehead part sounds like what will become It's Better People So cool you've an actual reply from Bonehead himself! Biblical!

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha yeah I know! Mental. I had a conversation with a member of Oasis! Tick off the bucket list

I agree it sounds good and compliments Noel’s acoustic but I think the version we all know and love was the right mix, great video though mate love these break downs of the tracks vids you do!

@JamesHargreavesGuitar

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Evan Yeah, I agree Owen Morris's mix was definitive - just would have been interested to hear an alternative mix with a different guitar blend, that's all

@evanphillips570

3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesHargreavesGuitar hi James, yeah mate it’s still a cool version though! I think you should do d’ya know what I mean track break down next🤣 32 guitars all doing the same thing according to Noel😂😂😂