It's interesting the panel never talks about what ENG can do to better test cricket. For example why don't ENG play AFG and BD more often. They can even send ENG A team that will give these nations more chance to play test cricket. But they won't do it since there is no money involved. They would rather host a IND vs PAK series to make more money instead of doing the right thing and do their part to improve global cricket...

@joshforde698

23 күн бұрын

Harmison says that the ECB need to do more and be less greedy in this very video. Afghanistan, England won't play because of what is going on with their women's team. Bangladesh is a different matter, we're in the third test championship and England haven't played them once, clear they just don't want to at the minute, which goes against the rhetoric of the ECB.

@dannyboy9573

22 күн бұрын

Agreed, could even have a test tri series, or 4 team series. ENG, WI, BD & AFG. Besides the big 3 (AUS, IND & ENG) they need to get innovative with the formatting to sustain interest and jeopardy.

@AM2K2

22 күн бұрын

Literally said what ENG could do in the video but you're a hater so probably wrote your comment before listening 🤣

@vybhaveswaraiah7114

7 күн бұрын

ENG have not toured BAN for a very long time for a Test Match series. Neither have they invited BAN over to England for a Test Series, let alone a T20I series or a ODI series but all the time keep inviting IND, AUS, PAK over to England for Tests ,ODIs, T20Is . Useless ICC and FMs destroyed the context of ODI cricket by scrapping the ICC CWC Super League which was actually a good thing

I'm glad Steve Harmison mentioned what Joel Garner said but I recall when West Indies were winning suddenly we saw less WI cricketers playing county cricket, bouncer laws implemented. There's other factors as well like funding, lack of interest in cricket in the Caribbean.

The same thing happened in the first test with WI in Australia and then the series was drawn. They were written off and rebounded. England have been poor in the WI for a long time now and no one says that they should not play tests. England is also below the WI in the world test championship. England have done poorly away from home for a while now and I have not heard this lamentation. Test cricket is in danger, not because WI have lost this test match easily, but because there is only focus on it in Australia, India and England. I like tests, but we need to wake up and smell what is cooking. Soon, only those 3 countries will be playing tests.

Its already dead in west indies long ago , t20 is the only thing that keeps going in windies , we have poor facilities, pitches etc , also the board will never get the good players to play test cricket. They go their own path to make money. People from outside asking how do we improve facilities and pitches, and domestic system . I have some answers. But lets be honest windies ain't getting better at test anytime soon.

@jokepore1532

23 күн бұрын

Keep faith man. And compel your lousy board to become active

@reeneljoseph

23 күн бұрын

@@jokepore1532 dave Cameron that time as president ruin wi cricket, we have more than one bards. After he left the boards was way better, it's not lousy since he left. The question is where is the 15mill Dave gone with. Having faith in west indies in test has gone for me. That ain't gonna get better soon they lose test status if nothing is being done to fix the problems.

@cskwillreturn2473

23 күн бұрын

They may win the second test just like they did in Australia

@reeneljoseph

23 күн бұрын

@@cskwillreturn2473 that a tall task for this inexperience side. But hope they do better.

@PJ-cm8ix

23 күн бұрын

​@@reeneljosephIt's not all doom and gloom, you guys have a few good talents coming up, I do feel that the pitches in West Indies are a joke and the main reason as to why the team has remained stagnant for a while

I've always felt cricket is a far better game if there's a strong West Indies team!

England, Australia and India have killed test cricket with not creating an international window and allowing T20s league to cherry pick the best players.

@sachinkashyap121

23 күн бұрын

Its england and Australia who refuse to tour small countries. Tell me when england tour of zimbabwe happen? Why they don’t play with afghans?

@larrygerry985

23 күн бұрын

​@sachinkashyap121 India also it part of the problem. They could solve this tomorrow by creating an international window (they control the ICC), allowing the WI best players to play. But they don't

@CricketEngland

23 күн бұрын

@@sachinkashyap121England had not actually refused to travel to these countries in 2024 but the same could be said even more so about india not playing tests against Pakistan even in neutral venues

@sannibhapande

23 күн бұрын

@@CricketEngland Is Pakistan a small cricketing nation? Looking at current situation they are indeed.

@PJ-cm8ix

23 күн бұрын

​@@CricketEnglandPakistan isn't a small cricketing nation (despite their poor performances recently), similarly US vassals like yourself and Aus refuse to play Afg outside ICC tournaments as well, Que Sera Sera mate

Few months back when West Indies won at the Gabba , Things were different .😂😂 Test cricket was mostly always like this. It's just Australia, England and lately India are the ones who are actually competing. Rest of the world just participates. There was a stage when South Africa was dominating in Test cricket,even that was just a phase. When the playing conditions play a part in determining the results we are more likely to get matches which are one sided. What happens if West Indies wins the next match?? I'm pretty sure you guys will say that Test cricket is at its peak 😂 This is how Test cricket is. Sometimes you get amazing matches , sometimes you get matches like this.

@Tommyshelby202

22 күн бұрын

Fair point ☝️

@shobhittodi9540

14 күн бұрын

England is doing very poorly in test cricket. India and australia are the only consistent test teams

I saw a comment on BBC where someone said why aren't west indies supporters turning up to the games, I will say this issue has affected sri Lanka, Pakistan tours here as well. The cost of tickets is a trip off. How can a family of four pay nearly 500 pounds for a days test at Lord's ?, and you do not even get 9o overs in. Seriously the powers above need to look at this. I raised this at Lord's some years back, but obviously nothing has been done. Plus cost of food and drinks is astronomical.

Proper preparation for tests. Touring teams used to arrive in England several weeks before the first test, play several games against counties - who played their strongest teams against the tourists because beating them was a great feather in the cap of a county. Overseas players had the opportunity to adapt to unfamilioar conditions and play themselves into form. But we are told that financial matters and the lure of franchise cricket makes long tours impossible. I am amazed that people paid a lot of money to watch what was always going to be a one sided affair. Are Sri Lanka going to be any better?

@gunner4life568

20 күн бұрын

Sri Lanka used to be good same as SA but that is all in the past Test will only be played the big three

The hundred being played in the height of summer, what a joke

It’s kind of hillarious seeing the MCC chairman cry at the slow death of Test Cricket when the English, Aussies and Indians control the cricket funds of the world. There’s little to no money trickling down to majority of test playing nations. And then they wanna sit down and mourn the demise of the format. 😂 what a joke

@reeneljoseph

23 күн бұрын

@@aono335 right 😂😂 , am so sick ND tired of hearing oh we need a strong west indies , me laughing out loud hearing that. And nothing is being done , even the new board can't even do much to make domestic system be proper.

@xperiarj1458

22 күн бұрын

And so what should these boards do.. donate their earnings to ICC. It is role of ICC to control things like franchise cricket, make sure big nations play small nations.. make system like relegation and promotion and involve more nations in cricket as was done in recently concluded T20 WC. But then we also know why ICC is not able to do so.. and it is simply nature of cricket.. spread over such long hours, compared to tennis or football players don't need to have that endurance.. and in this age of reels and tik-toks .. test cricket doesn't suit broadcasters .. these people here are cricket romantics taking but either way outside subcontinent Cricket is not a popular sport.

Steve is being very disrespectful he should remember haven't won a test series in West Indies in a long while

@PJ-cm8ix

23 күн бұрын

Facts 😂, a lot of talk for a team that hasn't won a test series in a while

@banditonehundred

22 күн бұрын

The level of English snootiness of cricketers is hilarious. I mean, even Australia and India aren’t as arrogant

@simonoliver8576

22 күн бұрын

​@@banditonehundredwell I think the last time england played a test series in the west indies we lost m8? I think that is right and was harmison was not part of an england team that were skittled for 50 vs west indies 🤣 I do not know what year that was exactly mid 2000s maybe? I do think that home advantage is becoming a big thing in test cricket now tho the best teams should be capable of winning home and away have aussies and india done that in recent times🤔 I know england have not done either btw🤣

It feels a bit of a tipping point for test cricket, Harmison's comment of pros vs amateurs in this match is quite apt, that Louis looked a good player with a nice technique, guy has 7 first class games all in West Indies to his name and then he has to front up here with no experience, England can bring in Jamie Smith of the same age with 60 games to his name.

@reeneljoseph

23 күн бұрын

@@joshforde698 i fear for louis thoo, because he do look good , but after this shameful one sideded series will end , may not even see him longer in the test format soon.

@joshforde698

23 күн бұрын

@@reeneljoseph Seems the way for West Indies, particularly with batsmen, they have to learn on the job and get dumped when they're not successful straight away. Chanderpaul shaped up nicely and made good scores in Australia in 2022 and In liked him, left out too soon for me. As you say, the same will probably happen to Louis. I remember Bonner and Brooks looking good, but getting dumped ASAP. Not all the fault of selectors as the batsmen only really get a chance in WI dmostic cricket, I know Brathwaite has had some county spells, but that's it for the batting.

@reeneljoseph

23 күн бұрын

@@joshforde698 yes , I actually thought tage would of been here , just because he didn't do well in Australia. But Haynes remove him smh, and bring back holder . Only three person play county this year for windies , seales , roach which is injured, and Louis brother a bowler who didn't play. And you right they not making these players stick together to play cricket, but once again they wouldn't even improve much when they keep playing 2-3 test series a year lol.

What should've been: Brathwaite, Mikyle Louis, Shai Hope, Athanaze/Hodge, Chase, Pooran(wk), Holder, Alzarri, Shamar, Roach, Motie

@Airyed

23 күн бұрын

Shai Hope constantly in and out of the team is disgraceful

@ryanhill8886

23 күн бұрын

@@Airyed ...he is currently averaging 25 in TEST cricket. Google him and you will find that his last ten test innings are 16, 22, 10, 3, 43, 2, 15, 12, 17 and 31. that is 171 runs for an average of just above 17. Still want him for tests ? He does better in ODI/T20....Pooran lacks the temperament for tests. Even though he has had success in ODI and T20, his averages respectively are 39.66 (Hope's is 51) and 26.47....Holder has been around a while and has had some good performances with bat and ball but he may be past his best and WI should consider swapping in a younger player (Just remember Holder, with all his international experience, was the bowler of that now infamous Superover that was smashed for 30 by a lesser-known Dutch player).

@Airyed

23 күн бұрын

@@ryanhill8886 he has a good record In England and he plays one match then is dropped then comes back in he needs a run of games in my opinion

@doyadirty3804

22 күн бұрын

@@ryanhill8886west indies whole problem was the lack of experience in the team..

@picturea4686

22 күн бұрын

Chase was dropped...roach injured...pooran and hope expressed their disinterest in tests to the board and opted out

India, Australia and England should tour more small test nations like Ireland, Afghanistan, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.. India should play test cricket against Pakistan if not in Pakistan atleast in neutral venue for test cricket to grow. India vs Pakistan is a box-office anyday.

@sharathvasudev

22 күн бұрын

not now. india is far superior team to Pakistan in tests. it will be counterproductive to test promotion

The decline of the West Indies which predates the emergence of franchises by at least a decade and the vulnerability of Test cricket are independent parameters. South Africa is the real basket case insofar as the future of Test cricket is concerned.

@chrisrussell5690

23 күн бұрын

NZ too i believe

@debasismohanty1952

22 күн бұрын

West Indies never going to become a strong cricketing nation again because their youth are now focusing on basketball, football, athletics

@debasismohanty1952

22 күн бұрын

​@@chrisrussell5690 Sri Lanka west Indies pakistan struggling in all 3 formats south african cricket also going down and now new zealand also struggling australia whitewashed new zealand 2-0 in new zealand a few months back

@reeneljoseph

21 күн бұрын

​@@debasismohanty1952not basketball, although I heard it's very popular now in Jamaica. But others are football, track and field, cricket, swimming.

Its foolish to think T20 is killing test cricket. In the case of the Windies, the downfall started in the 90s due to corrupt administrators and other sports overtaking in popularity like football and NBA. T20 is the only hope to retain some interest in cricket. With shrinking attention spans, the purists are foolishly lashing out at the only thing that can compete with modern sources of entertainment. Even the cases of Zimbabwe and South Africa, the decline is mainly due to political instability, interference of govts. and incompetent boards.

@reeneljoseph

21 күн бұрын

NBA, not even popular in the Caribbean, but that is one part of decline to , other sports is achieving due to some stars in the Caribbean , and many other factors as well.

@geoffbutler2893

20 күн бұрын

There too much t 20 cricket about far too much. Its becoming boring

The T20 World Championship a few weeks ago was incredible from start to finish. This is the future of cricket and West Indies did themselves proud with their showing. They are a great team with a bright future.

Worth remebering that just a few months ago, this West Indies side managed to do what an England team have failed to do since 2010/11. They won an exciting test match in Australia and levelled the series. On England's last 3 tours of Australia, their record is played 15, lost 13 and 2 draws (where they just managed to hang on). Home advantage is massive in test cricket and this West Indies side have hardly had any red ball cricket to prepare for the series.

@Alunticstalkedme4072

22 күн бұрын

@@portcullis5622 England haven't won a 5est series against Australia at home for nearly 10 years as well.

A similar West Indies team won at Gabba. However, their middle order looks weak in this condition. It will be interesting if they give any fight to England in this series. I believe England can still qualify for WTC finals as their upcoming fixtures show that they can easily thrash West Indies, Sri Lanka at home and Pakistan away. The only challenge will be against New Zealand away.

@harmy, I totally understand why you would want to frame the debate around structure. For one, otherwise you would put yourself at risk of attacking individual players. So as a nobody, I will do that instead. Windies captain karaoke brathwaite average 32, and has scored 12 centuries out of a 180 times he has taken guard for West Indies. On his good day, which happens one every two years, he will block his way to a substantial score and maybe win his team a game of attrition. But I would love AI to predict how many batters across test playing nations would have equalled and bettered his numbers had they been granted 90 test matches. I think all of them would have had numbers like brathwaite because why improve when there is no fear of being held accountable or of someone in the queue breathing down your neck. A decade ago, shiv chanderpaul was forced to retire even though he was playing his best cricket much like Jimmy and the argument was looking into the future. A decade later that future is still ahead of them and apart from Louis and tagenarine, every other batter picked for windies has had a domestic average in the late twenties or early thirties. Hell with the structure. The issue is lack of accountability and lack of grit to improve

I remember in 2017 when England thrashed the West Indies the 1st test and everyone was saying how bad West Indies cricket was. Then they came back and won the 2nd match, so I wouldn't the West Indies off yet.

Wasnt this the same WI side, who defeated Aussies in their own den...

@reeneljoseph

23 күн бұрын

Yes it was , but tage was drop for louis, and holder come back in. Also I knew windies will be so bad , after they play Australia test , they never play any test again , untill the one county game and straight to lords 😂😂

@swapnilmishra3537

23 күн бұрын

​@@reeneljosephi still back west indies to win 1 test against eng , I believe they just have to bat well nd they will eventually bat well in 1 test and will win 1

@russhouldin5774

23 күн бұрын

I think WI will do better in the next 2 tests. Oz wickets are similar to WI but English wickets are different. Slower, more lateral movement and variable bounce. All of which we saw. In times gone by touring teams would play the Counties plus a number of players played for Counties. There are very few of the latter and there was no warm up. Engand has a very big advantage at home that's why they managed to draw the Ozzies in the last Ashes after having their clocks cleaned Down Under. I hope I'm right. This was a sorry spectacle especially for someone who grew up watching the great WI players of the 60s.

@aono335

23 күн бұрын

@@russhouldin5774your optimism has no basis in reality. WI has zero test winning players. The win in Australia was sheer hunger and bit of luck. They have neither of those two this time around. The players look bored and already checked out. Test cricket is on life support.

@reeneljoseph

23 күн бұрын

@@swapnilmishra3537 i don't see it happening, because some players are inexperience and first time playing in England. Only 3 players in the team play more test matches and also failed. Wish they can prove me wrong thooo.

Test Cricket is not dying but the teams playing are all dying. Look in to their problems and improve their boards or bring in new teams. I dont mind if its WI or US as long as they are competitive

@alaapsarkar

22 күн бұрын

Restricting test cricket to only full member nations is something I will never understand Hypothetically if nepal wants to play japan in test matches why shouldn't they be recognised? Who knows.

t20 and test cricket should be the formats going forward with defined windows for each, not in rainy seasons etc and financially overseen as a global sport.

ICC needs to make sure the stakes and rewards both stay high for test cricket. Then we need players who can sustain their life just by playing test cricket. T20 certainly taking limelight away but test is ultimate.

It's almost as if having three countries hoover up the bulk of ICC funds has a negative impact on cricket elsewhere

It is dying. I would even go further to say cricket itself is dying. Test cricket is and has been the best format of cricket. The move towards t20 cricket, domination of certain boards, is sadly destroying the game. You can see the likes of Sri Lanka, South Africa and Pakistan going the same way!

Without test cricket....cricket is gone. Nobody remember when sri lanka beats india in second match of t20 series........ordinary MLB baseball match beats t20 everytime

Well done on an honest assessment! The “big three” have killed Cricket

It's a different time people just can't understand a 5 day match. However beautiful and integral to what the modern game has become. It is sad yes. You cant find mates to play t20 with let alone a full 50 odi or a test style cricket

What? West Indies have been bad for 30 years. They drew a series in Australia earlier this year. The batsman in this match barely had any caps between them.

England team plays a higher number of Test matches against weaker teams. Great for the stats not so much for the credibility. They are off to Pakistan after the summer to play a team they thrashed 3-0 away less than 2 years ago.

These conversations were happening in Australia six months ago after the West Indies lost the first Test by ten wickets. Then look what happened a week later!

To much focus is on money. To many games crammed into the schedule. The West Indian team had one game to prepare for the first test . It's always the same

What kind of pitches does ECB do? A test match is over in 2 days, this should be rated a poor pitch

@sportssadan3494

23 күн бұрын

how much did england score on such a bad pitch ?

@CricketEngland

23 күн бұрын

Please do tell us what was wrong with the Lords Pitch?

@neilpountney9414

23 күн бұрын

@@CricketEngland Nothing, anyone who knows Cricket recognizes this West Indies team is barely County Championship standard

@mcfch9625

23 күн бұрын

Ones where games don't get abandoned. Unlike when England tour the West Indies.

@portcullis5622

23 күн бұрын

​@@neilpountney9414 That would be the same West Indies team that, just a few months ago, did something that England haven't done for many years (13 years, off the top of my head). They won a test in Australia and in doing so, squared the series.

The worrying thing is apart from Atkinson England played pretty poorly, we need to help the smaller nations to build their games

Test cricket's enduring appeal lies in its ability to showcase the highest levels of skill, strategy, and endurance in the sport. While individual matches may be lopsided, the overall health of the format is determined by factors such as the competitiveness of teams, the development of new players, and the continued engagement of fans and administrators.

The ICC need to make it more lucrative for players. I don’t know where the money is coming from, but they need to find it

@larrygerry985

23 күн бұрын

India, England and Australia control the ICC. Unless they concede, international cricket is dead

Don't worry boys we ( south Africa) are heading the same way in Test cricket players are retiring early from Test cricket and some just skip Test cricket to play the more lucrative T20 leagues. The one player I feel for is Rabada because he has been playing test cricket for almost ten years but he is way behind reaching 100 matches and had he been English we would had the chance to reach Dale Steyn tally of wickets at the rate he is taking wickets but unfortunately with the number of matches we are playing he has little chance

England have a horrible record in the Caribbean themselves, Anderson has never won a test series there in his 20 year career so don't try to be patronizing towards them, if you are seriously interested in helping the cricketing world stop this Big 3 nonsense and invest in test cricket

@Andy-rm7jf

23 күн бұрын

Yes England have won a test series away you melt

@indiarocks5731

23 күн бұрын

Test cricket is not generating any money

@kenroyfearon1282

22 күн бұрын

But not in the carribbean​@@Andy-rm7jf

Also west indies play test cricket , 3-4 test cricket in a year , would never help west indies get better at test . Soon we play test against associates, can't even afford test matches mostly 2 test series will be the norm or never again. And will WI ever get better by playing 2 test series against associates soon. I don't even think so.

These guys surely know how to fearmonger

As Ravi Shastri said in World Cricket Connects 2024 Test cricket should be played in Promotion and religetion format for WTC. That's the best thing imo so then there would something to play for there would be context for everygame played by each and every team playing wether it's India or Ireland all the test playing nation would try hard to play

The Big three, India, Australia and England, need to share the money around a bit more, The West Indies in this test match where totally outclassed the match was over after day 1, Lords must of lost any where between 3 and 5 million at least in revenue, sure Saturday was a sell out with refunds for Saturday’s and Sunday plus other revenue in the ground. If you think a ticket is £100 x 31.180 = 3.118.000. Giving the so called lesser nations a bit more of the pot mite improve the game as a spectacle. And not a walkover that does nothing for cricket.

@sharathvasudev

22 күн бұрын

india already is responsible for around 70% of icc funds. still bcci ended up paying 6 times more price many after winning the world cup. which still is pocket change for many players in that squad. it's just that money is not trickling down in ICC. it does in BCCI

Nothing will ever be as good as 2005, it was as much of a national event as the European Championships are now. Everyone was talking about it. At the moment the only series that anyone casually interested pays attention to is India or the Ashes.

eng,nz makes pitches where team batting first will always be in trail for most of the times.

West Indies will never be a top team again and haven't been for years. Its so annoying to hear everyone cry about the state of West Indies every time they lose a game.

Cricket is such an expensive sport. Even in India where it’s so crazy, most kids don’t ever get a chance to play hard ball cricket

Eng A shud host afghan zimbabwe ireland bangladesh usa etc 1 test home an away every year

For me to play at highest level you need test crucket to develop skills.

Except 3 or 4 nations, teams do not have the skills to play tests anymore !!

I remember reading a Geoff Boycott book in the early 90s where he said that test cricket would die and there would just be 50 over matches. It is not dead, but it does cost money for countries like New Zealand and South Africa and they have more limited overs cricket as a result to make money. Also remember that England get humiliated every time we play a test series in Australia or India!!

Yup , seeing your team’s performance in India its fair to say test cricket is not as good !!

T20 cricket, originally created by the English and popularized by India, is like a dirty drug of instant gratification. It's addictive and flashy, drawing fans and players with its fast-paced action and quick rewards. This comes at a cost, especially for Test cricket in the WI,SA. WI First-Class season runs only for 7 games as big T20 leagues like IPl,PSLSouth African IPL (clever Indian plan) , and As a result, the best players are often missing, chasing lucrative T20 contracts instead. This leaves the Test team undermanned and underprepared, leading to poor performances. T20's quick thrills are eroding the depth and quality of traditional cricket. It's a short-term high that’s damaging the sport’s long-term health. Will cricket ever find a balance, or will this "Indian drug" keep taking its toll?

It is sad condition but Be realistic test cricket is getting dead outside England, australia, india because test cricket is not viable in terms of economics. You can't make something popular only by nostalgia and history, sad but true test cricket doesn't suit in today's world.

First question...jeez....longest question ever

Of course it is dying, it is only for Australia that braggey green is the highest standard of cricket which is why they are the 6 times World Champions compare to others who are once or twice and BCCI is responsible for this since they directs ICC, you want to play soft feminine franchise cricket which gives you money like South African players whoch have very little shame they cannot chase 26 off 23 balls in a little or no value T20i World Cup tournament and they are now playing in franchise cricket what a shame for Africans after all chokers can't be great so how would you expect from them to uphold test and ODI matches? which actually tests a person's skills, mentality, courage, character instead they are playing T20i sixer thing plus you now implemented hundreds of laws that a bowler can't do but batter can do whatever they want so trying to restrict and control things and not allowing players to engage in a battle with each others will certainly lower your standards

If you ask the former test feast like Michael Holding , he will tell you that the West Indies cricket board are to blame for the gradual decline of the WestIndies Cricket team . The tell take signs started with the rebel tour of South Africa during the early 1980s. It showed that the West Indies players were not being paid enough for their talents . Perhaps it is the West Indies Cricket board ; Or perhaps it was due to the lack of lucrative sponsorship of test match and Red Stripe cricket inn the Caribbean .

Test cricket is in hospice care!

West indies youth more into football, basketball, and athletics. Cricket well down the order . West Indies were the best team back in the day, but sadly those days have gone.

West Indies got thrashed in the first test earlier this year in Australia as well before bouncing back memorably at the Gabba so let's not write them off completely yet please!

Test cricket should be 4 day match not 5..4 inings 4 day..

I have lost interest in cricket since the T20s started dominating there are no longer stories we remember for ever in T20 like there was in Test cricket I would never as a south African forget Amla triple century in England or KP beautiful century against us back in the mid 2000s or Kohli' century against Australia in 2014 but ask me which T20 innings I remember I can't even recall last year' T20 matches

To be fair, West Indies is not the only one who is not playing competitive cricket. Alot of international teams are. It was just the other day England get a whipping from India. But should England stop playing test cricket??

The Series is not over yet, if you follow the records of West Indies against England since the last two series hosted in U.K,you can't probably strike them off, its too early to make such opinion.

Pretty rich from a team which hasnt won a test series in a while.

How about England not taking out the spinners out of the equation totally by making doctored pitches tailor made for their seamers... And then complaining that there is no competition... Maybe they are afraid

They just beat Australia in one of the best tests in recent memory. Let's calm down.

T20 competition as has really neglected test cricket

So let us compare to Ruby Union. 2 out of 3 Southern Hemp teams on top and 1 Northern Hemp team. 3 Teams In Cricket we have Eng, India and Aussies. 3 Teams. Cricket is NOT going away in any of these 3 countries. And S.A. and Pakistan and West Indies and N.Z. are always going to be there.. So basically you need some sort of N v E v S v W Hemp play-off system with the other nations trying to get into the party. Same as the 6 nations in Rugby

Give test status to Netherlands, Scotland and Namibia

T20 international cricket is not killing test cricket it's t20 leagues killing test cricket i think icc should make rules that only 6 or 8 top rank teams can organise t20 league

Bcci has the power to invest in other countries but it never will cos that would hamper the chances of a year round IPL

@krantiveer5116

23 күн бұрын

BCCI is not a charity. There are more impoverished cricketers in India than the rest of the world combined.

@angshumandas5779

23 күн бұрын

Cope. Bcci works for itself and employees. If you have so much concern sell England's foreign reserve and help them.

@sharathvasudev

22 күн бұрын

Afghanistan is funded by BCCI. result was in semifinals. BCCI has provided an entire stadium for Afghanistan.

I blame the ipl the the BBCI

Lets wait for the 2nd test and you will praise West Indies cricket and I'm betting you that Steve and u old guy. Test cricket is not dying and will not die anytime soon. Guys I need your comments on this till the 2nd match start so that it would prove either it was me or them who is wrong in their understanding.

until and unless Test cricket becomes a lucrative in terms of money for the small teams , they have no reasons to invest in it, they will rather look at t20 and ODI because thats where players can earn money. ICC needs to step up, but im sure they don't intend to, there is no reason for having a test World Title when only 4 nations are in the running, what are we even trying to prove ?

Test cricket will keep declining if the cricketing nations do not plan better and give touring teams more time in preparing for a Test series. Cricket suppose to be entertaining, it would not be entertaining if the matches are not competitive due to lack of preparation.

It is international cricket itself that is at stake here. Not just Test cricket.

@SA-uk2uu

21 күн бұрын

This 💯

Every knowledgeable cricket fan knows india australia England perform consistently well in all 3 formats rest are struggling look at last 5 world cup results australia win 2 Eng win 2 india win 1 that's why cricket standards going down day by day west Indies, pakistan,sri lanka struggling and new zealand south africa also not performing well consistently

Stop it When England or India trash a team Test Cricket dead but when Windies win it's great for test cricket. Let the boards get more money and help to get up to the level of England Australia, New Zealand and India.

West indies is a small population..they were best when others were not good..indies cricket didn't decline

@PJ-cm8ix

23 күн бұрын

These are facts which no one will acknowledge as they don't like living in the real world

Only Australia, India and England have any kind of sustainable ecosystem for Test cricket to prosper, That is a sport in decline, once Test cricket falls, it will be a long inevitable downward decline for cricket in general, It may not seem so with the riches from T20 but it will happen.

@CricketEngland

23 күн бұрын

If international cricket fails then franchise cricket fails as it dose have the popular players about. Franchise cricket need to understand this and not play during international periods

@PJ-cm8ix

23 күн бұрын

​@@CricketEnglandAgain what you're saying has no practical real world factual basis, franchisees have scouts all over the world now and sometimes they scout talent that hasn't even showed up in any national teams radar (Tim David, Kwena), also Test Cricket and White ball stuff need to be separated as different codes for Tests to have a chance

@indiarocks5731

23 күн бұрын

​@@CricketEnglandcricket is in Olympic silly

Well I'm glad people have finally stopped blaming the teams that get no money. You can't more with less, you can only do less. I maintain that this decline in a global sport has been allowed to happen because of greed and false feelings of superiority by the Big 3. There didn't even used to be a Big 3. It was a rotating cast (save Australia) of who was good at the time. But the BCCI, ECB, and CA have cut everyone else off and created their own mini-league where no else matters. Well thanks for nothing because it's killed test cricket. ODIs are done now outside of the WC. So all that's left is T20. Even that is at risk from all the franchise leagues and the player carousel. Cricket is dying, and the people at the top don't care. They just want to make as much money as they can before it collapses

@reeneljoseph

23 күн бұрын

@@errol1935 facts 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 well said, also we have some parts to blame to , our system needs a overhaul.

@errol1935

23 күн бұрын

@@reeneljoseph Agreed. We really do. A fair amount of our decline could’ve been postponed or avoided had we not had such crooks and tiefs running our game for so long. They really kicked us when we were already down. Their names should be dragged through the mud, and the money they took recovered.

@reeneljoseph

23 күн бұрын

@@errol1935 facts , that why I hated Dave Cameron so much. Wonder what he did with that 15mill , and the rest.

@errol1935

23 күн бұрын

@@reeneljoseph He’s bought at least two gold chains for sure 😂😂😭😭😭 We must speak to obeah man about him yes 😜

@reeneljoseph

23 күн бұрын

@@errol1935 😂😂😂😂 , you ain't lie inno. Wish I see the day he goes to jail.

ICC should look into the dodgy pitches in England, no match should end in 2 days, happens too often.

@alenton81

23 күн бұрын

Good point

@soumalyachatterjee6974

23 күн бұрын

What dodgy pitch England bat well in this pitch😊

@GrahamM2341

23 күн бұрын

Nothing wrong with this pitch

@CricketEngland

23 күн бұрын

Do tell us all what was wrong with the Lords pitch?

@Albetroz1415

23 күн бұрын

@@CricketEngland sarcasm.

They may bounce back in Nottingham but it would be the brilliance of these men, they are set up to fail.

One thing ICC should do is standardize playing conditions.. this same English team gasps for breath when they come to subcontinent but with duke ball in hand become beast, same with subcontinent teams barring India.. playing conditions should be like Australia providing balance of pace and spin.. and in test cricket 2 tier system with relegation and promotion scheme should be there..

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Test cricket is really predictable !! Why would you want to watch it ? Also tell me how a working class person can watch a full test match? most people that come in defence of test cricket actually just check the scores during much of the 5 days. Think about the broadcaster. Only 2 intresting test series: Ind vs Aus in Australia Eng vs Aus in England Anybody coming to India will lose. India will even win in England. Compare this too T20 cricket, Pakistan vs India, Usa vs Pakistan, Bang vs Sa, Nepal vs SA, the final, just few of the many close contests we had in this world cup. The timing of matches definitely was all messed up.

@indiarocks5731

23 күн бұрын

Test cricket will survive...there were always only 3-4 strong team ...ind ,eng ,nz were just bad in 1980 pak ,aus,wi were good 90 we had aus ,wi, Africa , pak Now we have ind, eng ,aus,

@victorytilidie

23 күн бұрын

There was nothing predictable about the Windies' second most recent Test.

Matches are ending in 2-3 days. Prepare better pitches or don't host any international test matches.

@alenton81

23 күн бұрын

Good point

@GrahamM2341

23 күн бұрын

Nothing wrong with the pitch in this match

@CricketEngland

23 күн бұрын

So do tell me, what was wrong with the lords pitch ?

@_RakeshGupta

22 күн бұрын

​@@CricketEnglandtmkc😅

Conditions not suited for the sub continent country's and west indies that's why there

This is not good for test cricket. we need west indies to do much better. Test cricket is the best too much t 20 cricket is becoming a joke and has for the ipl that goes on for like ages its boring. test cricket is the ultimate and we need west indies pakistan new zealand sri lanka too make a real go of it.The west indies batting is embarrasing but thats what you get when you play t 20 cricket all the time

It appears that England is also poor in tests against superior teams because they consistently lose badly in Australia and India and draw the series against the same opponents at home.

betting west indies is like betting small village team nothing to sad about windies cricket they prioritize fast cricket thats there there choice 😊to play

Australia and India can easily beat England

It doesn't help when England poach players like Archer.

@larrygerry985

23 күн бұрын

Archer, and a multiple number of players.

@GrahamM2341

23 күн бұрын

You can blame the structure of WI cricket for that

@reeneljoseph

23 күн бұрын

@@GrahamM2341 that is one of WI problems, the structure to blame , the past president Dave Cameron and other leader's territorial boards ruin wi cricket. And the domestic system, still wondering what Dave did with that 15mill.

@AMB5

23 күн бұрын

You're making zero sense. It's the players choice and he moved to England because Windies board doesn't pay enough. It's all player's choice

@Alunticstalkedme4072

23 күн бұрын

@AMB5 Windies board doesn't pay enough because they are broke and the big 3 India, Australia, and England take all the money. So England had all the money in the world to develope players and in the past 2 decades has poached countless talent from poorer cricketing nations. It's what's kill8ng rest cricket in places like the Caribbean.

Lets talk about the financial greed of the Indian BCCI.

@PJ-cm8ix

23 күн бұрын

More like the callous reticence of the the English to not play lower level teams like Zim, Ban etc, what's happening in cricket is just capitalism (which you guys invented), everybody hates the BCCI for basically doing what every sports body does (profits above all)

@ashwinhariharan310

23 күн бұрын

Ok. Let me use this reply to talk facts as a purist and give a riposte to the jealousy of the BCCI. State of cricket today: T20 leagues are grabbing players from lower ranked teams like Pak, Ban, SL, WI. Reason: Not only IPL/BBL/Hundred or yada yada. The big 3 have to share money with others. Not just the BCCI. I agree with Harmy and Garner. Now why are big 3 so good at tests other than money: Strong domestic structure, good pitches , immense talent, lots of opportunities to play amongst themselves. India is excellent because they have become an all conditions team. We have vast pool of fast bowlers in addition to spinners. Problem with the others (other than money): You can ask how Pak and WI were so good in the 80s how SL were so good from 96-2014 despite poor first class structure and crap board: Immense once in a generation talent, flair, exposure to county cricket, dedication, passion. Hence greats like Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Saqlain, Viv, Greenidge, Marshall, Haynes, Roberts, Garner, Ambrose, Walsh, Sangakkara, Mahela, Vaas, Jayasuriya, Murali etc. There was no IPL. Long format cricket was the only one available. Now other than the sharing and T20 Problem, the board is terribly mismanaged, lots of corruption, infighting (particularly Pakistan), terrible first class cricket, poor pitches at home. So they have their own Problems. Big 3 and esp BCCI aren't alone to blame. Now coming to the BCCI. We definitely are rich. But it's earned. We treat our players very well. We're firm believers in all 3 formats. The indian public and the players love tests. The BCCI has always given incentives for our youngsters to pursue tests. We've expanded the reach of cricket to small towns like Ranchi etc. The BCCI has uplifted the lives of the poor in India eg: Jaiswal, Shami etc. Yes the BCCI is grandiose and unnecessarily flexes it's muscles at times. But the fact is India generates maximum revenue. This is nit possible without our public. Privatisation did play a role but a very positive one. I'm a big fan of England and Australia. Don't get me wrong. I love the traditions of lord's. ECB and CA are high quality top class boards with sound systems. I only dislike the jealousy of the BCCI. As a purist, i want to see greats from the smaller nations too like the ones I mentioned. It will make the game better. For that fundamental changes have to be made by the ICC along with the big 3 and the IND boards like PCB, WICB, SLC who've to identify the root causes and sort them rather than taking shortcuts like changing captains and coaches

Massive overreaction of the highest order and no substance of the actual problem back in the windies and that’s not something easily sorted as they are divided and aren’t a country, they are a group of independent islands looking after their own self interest. Look at Jamaica as an example they didn’t bid for any games in the last World Cup because the government and those in charge don’t believe in investing in cricket hence they are bottom of the table. There are some talented youngsters in that Windies team and they need to be given experience and exposure however to think the icc / ECB / ACB / BCCI can tell these islands what todo and change governance etc is waffle.

WICB has messed up windies cricket , so much talent going to waste due to politics and poor management.

Is this really a fair assessment after 1 test match. Seems laughable from England, we are still ninth in the test championship. Can one we really look at one result and say we deserve to be a league above these guys?