How Will History Judge Jonny Bairstow & Where Now For Bairstow?👀🍿| Kimber & Harmy
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talkSPORT's Cricket editor and presenter Jon Norman sits down with former Durham and England cricket writer Jarrod Kimber to discuss all things cricket.
In today's episode, Kimber & Harmy discuss how history will judge Jonny Bairstow & Where now for Bairstow after being dropped for England's first test against The Windies
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Bairstow will be remembered as a player who gave absolutely everything. He was barely fit in the 2023 Ashes but still gave his all, after an injury that would have ended careers of people with less bottle. He was one of the most feared white ball openers between 2015 and 2021, who scored runs for fun at an astonishing rate. He was also one of the fastest fielders as a sweeper before his injury. I’ll never forget his 100 at 3 in Sri Lanka when he just exuded pure passion. As an England fan, I also think a team with Jonny in, is a team that also cares and will always fight to the fullest.
Harmison is the master of saying the same thing 6 times in 2 different ways
@larrygerry985
Ай бұрын
He is terrible
@sanh595
Ай бұрын
He is terrible, but Zaheer khan can do it in 8 different ways
@grayalun
Ай бұрын
@@swiggsoclock He is awful 😂, I like the Nasser and Athers channel though.
@Blade14717
Ай бұрын
Struggles greatly with the English language
@abhijithashok2564
Ай бұрын
@@Blade14717isn't he English ?
Kimber said it perfectly in the nicest possible way 😅 Harmison shouldnt be anywhere near a mic
For all the critics aimed at bairstow he was the only player who clawed back england from the 5th test against india when india hold the aces till lunch on 4th day. Without him the series would have been handed over to india and 3-1 scoreline the end result. Since the devastating injury he has played 10 test matches and almost scored a century with 99 on the fourth ashes test. Let us compare pope, crawley with him. After roughly 40 test matches both have the same average and test hundreds. Even stokes has the same average. I honestly believe that if bairstow is given the backing he will for sure come good. He was the only player who scored a match saving century in down under. Rob Key should be reminded of his contributions.
@Dickkokballz
Ай бұрын
Bairstow has played over 100 matches and averages 30. He plays good innings but overall is poor. Stop being delusional
He has been part of a selfless and excellent white ball team for many years… by far England’s best ever white ball team… and second place isn’t even close. The teams always come first in this era which hasn’t always been the case, so thanks for your efforts and contributions Johnny.
Steve Harmison is in La La Land
Once you damage a leg like that, it's always a doubt in your mind and you never forget about it. I had a motorcycle accident and smashed my left leg to bits, this was eight years ago and even now, I don't trust it completely.
Who has made Harmison an expert? Even he not sure what he is talking
@SWJ_
8 күн бұрын
Former no.1 ranked Test Bowler…?
Bairstow had his moments, but for a country with the riches of talent/systems like England, about time he's gotten rid of. Flat track bully who could never replicate his good form enough in testing conditions or long enough throughout his career.
@jetpark3743
Ай бұрын
You don't know cricket at all. Lame
@longjohn5322
Ай бұрын
@@jetpark3743 So are you going to offer your own view or just shout down someone else’s. Weak!
@Mangatcrypto
9 күн бұрын
Yeah, mind boggling how he's played a 100 tests! Only in England I guess. Definitely had his moments but a great of the game? Nah. Sorry
This is a fantastic series of discussions started. Keep continuing
Bairstow would have had a much better record if England hadn't messed him about so much.
Bairstow is a very selfless player. He’s played here there and everywhere in the batting line up for the sake of the team and he’s often got less runs than he could have, because we’ve needed quick runs at the time
@ce11amitkumaryadav83
Ай бұрын
He batted everywhere just to remain in team , first he was keeper batsmen , then played as proper batsmen then move to 3 as there was better player in middle order 🤣🤣🤣, people calling everything selfless now a days 😂😂😂😂 Worst player to play 100 test
@Bert-lw1ot
Ай бұрын
@@ce11amitkumaryadav83to fix his slot? What does that even mean?
@ce11amitkumaryadav83
Ай бұрын
@@Bert-lw1ot I have edited
@Bert-lw1ot
Ай бұрын
@@ce11amitkumaryadav83 he was never good enough to be a 3, but Root's refusal to play there meant Bairstow was the one who made the sacrifice. He went through an unbelievable spell a couple of years ago when it was him AND Foakes in the team and he was left to play at 5
@cosmocurnow8457
Ай бұрын
can’t keep mate, ashes 2023 🤣
I first met Jonny when he was a 15 year old playing against my son's team. He was astonishingly talented, but a really unpleasant, mouthy individual. He was clearly devastated by his father's death and it affected him. I met him about 6 years ago at York when I was playing there and he was watching and he was mature and pleasant. He's probably one of England's greatest white ball players and a good test wicketkeeper batsman. He'd have been even better if England hadn't messed him about so much.
He’ll be forever remembered for his brain fade.
Hes a great white ball player one of the best we have produced 🏴
I think hes extremely talented and still looked upon as an option,but mainly for sena nations not asia
@shoaibmemon8788
Ай бұрын
but thats the case with Warner too
Some of Harmison's views appear to be a bit biased.
Extremely talented player
Johnny is simple. Outside Asia he can be like, "why not?", but in Asia, "Dont even bother"!
Bairstow has always been the easy target for the cricket elites, he has been fantastic in all formats for England
@samgh-nw1sh
Ай бұрын
36 average in tests. good, yes, great at times, but fantastic? i'm not sure.
@gts8919
Ай бұрын
@@samgh-nw1sh Same test average as Chokendra Dhobi 🤣
Bristow is great one day player, good t 20 player and average test player
@Matthew-bu7fg
Ай бұрын
i always found him tremendous on the oche
@longjohn5322
Ай бұрын
I don’t think the stats support your assertion that he was an average Test player. How many that have played Test cricket end up with 6000 runs?
@HkFinn83
4 күн бұрын
@@longjohn5322 he has played over 100 tests. That isn’t a huge amount of runs for playing that much. Average in the 30’s. That’s…an average player. No shame in that.
@longjohn5322
3 күн бұрын
@@HkFinn83 How many of his Tests were played as a batsman? I’m pretty sure he’s got over 200 Test dismissals as a keeper so he can’t be classified simply as a batsman and his stats can’t be held against specialist batsmen.
@HkFinn83
3 күн бұрын
@@longjohn5322 looked up his record and he actually averages less as a pure batsman. 36.4 overall and 34.9 as a specialist batsman, over 45 matches. Looking at his record it seems like he was lucky to actually play as much as he did. 34 as a specialist batter is average at best.
I want the same stuff that Steve Harmison is having!!!
Wow, I like roasting people as much as the next person, but you lot are really cooking Harmy 🤣 I get that he repeats himself and over-explains (almost like a Cricket version of Jordan Peterson), but his insight is still interesting at times. My biggest problem is how close he is to the leadership of this England team and how that affects his punditry, not the waffling so much. I’ve heard a lot lot worse than Harmy.
His average tells the story. Wasn't good enough to keep but wanted the gloves and got his way. A decent cricketer who had great moments, but he is just that.....a moments cricketer.
@jamesburke1168
Ай бұрын
Red ball I’d agree, but I wouldn’t agree he’s a moments players when it comes to white ball cricket
Bairstow is an aggressive batsman but does not have the game between the ears. Too many dumb mistakes behind the stumps and at the crease.
Got bowled through the gate far too often for my liking. Amazing to think how outstanding he was in 2022, yet now he’s done with
@gts8919
Ай бұрын
@@agr7879 The Wall Rahul Dravid holds the record for most times bowled in tests 🤣
I have never seen Bairstow perform against India except that 5th test in 2022. He might be decent player of pace but a very poor player of spin.
@swapnilraipure3314
Ай бұрын
Iske bs 2-3 hi achievement dikhte hai 😂😂😂 2019 CWC me iski eng ke liye performance aur ind ke against 5th test me hundred baaki ka iska koi performance yaad nhi jo aacha ho personal milestone ke alawa
@shoaibmemon8788
Ай бұрын
@@swapnilraipure3314bhai aese to mujhe Hardik Pandya ki bhi 1 aadh performance hi yaad aa rahi hai
@swapnilraipure3314
Ай бұрын
@@shoaibmemon8788 tu sach mai Mera Bhai hai 😂😂😂 same meri trh sochta hai. Bilkul sahi bol. Clutch runs alg baat hai match nikalna alg baat. Log bolte pandya clutch pandya hai. Bc kayka clutch pandya match agr nhi nikal ska to faltu hai runs. Jaise Virat ke 2014 wt20 final wt20 semi against wi ke runs Pani me gye koi uske baare me baat nhi krta. Pr pandya ke runs ko World Cup ke trf glorify krte hai 😑😑😑 jbki vo jyda tr lossing causes me aate hai 😑😑😑
@shoaibmemon8788
Ай бұрын
@@swapnilraipure3314 Bhai sari baten theek par 2014 ke final mein yuvraj ne balls zaya ken and 2016 ke world cup mein Bhumra ne no bowl par Russel ko out kia jisne baad mein match palat dia, par Pandya ki hype samajh se bahar hai, jabke hype Muhammad Shami ki honi chahiye, Hardik Panday ko log Legendary Kapil Dev se compare karte haan 🤦♂️
@swapnilraipure3314
Ай бұрын
@@shoaibmemon8788 sahi bola pr bhai 2016 hardik aur Ashwin ne no ball dala tha 😂😂😂. 2017 me bumrah ne no ball dala.
I think it's too early to talk about Johnny Bairstow's retirement because i believe he can still deliver a lot more dashing runs for England in Test format, obviously now he's going through a lean bad patch because of that freak injury but once he corrects his technical issues and rekindle his diminishing form i think this time there'll be more runs will flow from his bat for England so please don't write off Johnny this early I'm sure he's going to come back in to form and it'll be a bombastic event for England Cricket
Why is everyone after Bairstow? Shoaib Akhtar called him overrated on Sportskeeda 😂
@Sothpawman
Ай бұрын
Extremely overrated, much like most England players. Would not make it into the 11 of any top side like Aus and India.
@gts8919
Ай бұрын
@@Sothpawman If Bairstow is overrated, so are Chu*iya Kumar Yadav and Harpic Pandya. One fluke final won't change that fact 🤣
@jamesburke1168
Ай бұрын
@@SothpawmanI don’t think you understand the meaning of ‘overrated’
@gts8919
Ай бұрын
@@Sothpawman England won both white ball World Cups but apparently India are the top side 🤣
@3_smh_3
Ай бұрын
@@gts8919 if that is a fluke final then what is umpire brain-fart + boundary count? pull your pants up and sit down.
Where can i watch full episodes of these?
@gts8919
Ай бұрын
@@tricksbyumer i think you'll have to listen to talksport radio.
Is Harmy shaking a little bit? It reminds me of Allan Border’s last few years in the media
@MegatronRacing237
Ай бұрын
He’s always been like that. Introverts do that
I thought that Harmison said he doesn't even like cricket.
A colonoscopy would be less painful than hearing steve harmison talk.
hearing rahat alis name surprised me thought no one else remembered him
@rgfitness6425
Ай бұрын
Rahat Fateh Ali khan 🎵🎵🎵
@jayakrishnashenoy
Ай бұрын
Jarrod probably remembers players from obscure sunday leagues. Let alone a forgotten international cap 😂
Wouldn't have played 100 tests for India or Australia ,doubt if he would even get a chance for test debut ,okay as white ball player
@gts8919
Ай бұрын
@@naman1325 Ian Healy played 119 tests for Australia and scored only 4 centuries 🤣
@dluap569161
Ай бұрын
@@gts8919 Healy was a wicketkeeper who batted a bit. Bairstow has always been selected for his batting.
Has Harmison watched him play 🤔
Maybe he should give up on tests and concentrate on white ball cricket where he is still a great player. Despite his rough patch, he is capable of scoring in white ball cricket
One word - patchy
Great batsman in patches. Poor wicketkeeper Over weight
Bairstow is a great player…
Average batsman . Below average keeper . The ocasinoal day of brilliance in bryween
Tell Harmison to get his big size 12 out of the camera
bairstow always looks like a bits & pieces player.
David Warner as a broadcaster. God help us all. No thanks. There's a reason he wasn't a captain
Good player who has exceeded his skill set but I also think he has been the cause of a few players being held back ..Dan Lawrence, Ben Foakes and more
@LampsGaming
Ай бұрын
Foakes can't bat. Barely scores runs in counties and no way he's gonna survive against Cummins, Starc etc
Without doubt the worst player to play 100 tests. He should have been dropped 18 months ago. Harmison talking absolute nonsense per usual.
@gts8919
Ай бұрын
@@JonathanWells-xt3oj Is he worse than Ian Healy who played 119 tests and scored only 4 centuries? 🤣
@dluap569161
Ай бұрын
@@gts8919 Invalid comparison. Ian Healy was always selected as a wicketkeeper and batted mostly at 7 (121 innings) and 8 (43 innings) behind a mostly strong batting lineup (think: Taylor, Hayden, Border, Boon, Slater, the Waughs, Ponting, Martyn, Langer etc). He was NEVER selected mainly for his batting, unlike Bairstow. Four centuries batting at 7 in such an era is pretty good. A better comparison would be between Healy and keepers like Alan Knott or Bob Taylor - excellent wicketkeepers who, like Healy, also batted a bit. Healy was also selected in the ACB's team of the 20th century, ahead of great keepers like Marsh, Grout, and Tallon. I doubt Bairstow will be in the ECB's team of the 21st century.
@warrenfoster1931
Ай бұрын
@@gts8919Are you serious? Healy has that many more dismissals than Bairstow it is not funny. In fact only Boucher and Gilchrist have more dismissals than him. Healy was picked at a time when wicketkeepers were picked to keep wicket first and bat second. Terrible comparison.
@gts8919
Ай бұрын
@@warrenfoster1931 Seems like Bairstow is held to a higher standard than the likes of Healy, Boucher and Dhobi. Which is my point 🤣
@gts8919
Ай бұрын
@@dluap569161 Gilchrist also batting low in the order but still has a stellar batting record. Healy plain sucked 😂 And Bairstow in the 21st century ranks ahead of Geraint Jones, Paul Nixon and Matt Prior 😘
Johnny lost his mojo when he grew his moobs
A player with huge flaws in his game who, because of his many friends in the media, talk about him as though he's a great, when actually he averages 36
Guys stop sitting around and bitching about Jonny..
Inconsistent
Remove Harmison please
Same like Dilshan is remembered.
@gts8919
Ай бұрын
@@sayedafif739 Wtf, Dilshan is totally underrated. 10,000+ ODI runs and top scorer at multiple editions of the World Cup. Horrific take 😂
@MegatronRacing237
Ай бұрын
What are you talking about 😂
He was ok.. did not play in the SPIRIT of the game tho.. and that will be his LEGACY
He should retire from England and concentrate on Yorkshire
Was a destructive player at times. But I think he lived off his dad's reputation, especially with a lot of the pundits
@seanelliott9730
Ай бұрын
That statement makes no sense.
Axar patel bunny 🐰
@garya1714
Ай бұрын
Everyone is a potential bunny when facing Axar 😂
Extremely mediocre player except a few good innings on flat roads
He never scored runs in sub continent
@seanelliott9730
Ай бұрын
Wrong statement pal
Why do not you ever discuss the greatest white ball bowler ever, Bumrah?? Instead of these shitty overhyped English batsmen … Jealous ???
@koulmemaybe
Ай бұрын
KZread search Jarrod Kimber bumrah, he's done like three hours of content on him
@AM2K2
Ай бұрын
Why do you listen to English media if you hate it so much? Very strange 🤣
@Dilmahkana
Ай бұрын
It's an English based show... get over 'yourself'
@haritt008
Ай бұрын
@@Dilmahkana ohh is it? I never knew that… it’s ok to be selfish than, Cheers !
@JY-ev5ms
Ай бұрын
@@haritt008 Selfish? An Indian coming on to a English channel complaining about not talking about Indian players... You're unbearable
If Rohit Sharma was mediocre and had half the talent he has 😂
@midfielderlounge2592
Ай бұрын
That's too much Praise for Johny