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Did India Put an End To BazBall? 😨 & Has BazBall Been a Myth All Along? 🤔 | Kimber & Harmy

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In today's episode, Kimber & Harmy discuss whether India killed BazBall and if BazBall is even a thing in the first place.
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  • @imonghosh912
    @imonghosh912Ай бұрын

    Saw that series between India and England. And I totally agree with what Harsha Bhogle said about it. He said, in the end, India only had to take 7-8 wickets each innings. England was gifting them 2-3 wickets every time.

  • @rakeshkrishnan1099

    @rakeshkrishnan1099

    Ай бұрын

    and india was gifting them 7-8 wickets while they were taking only 2-3 wickets every time , it goes both ways

  • @DivineMythos
    @DivineMythosАй бұрын

    Yeah if my grandma had wheels she’d have been a bike😂😂

  • @ryanndua
    @ryannduaАй бұрын

    Indian series was great. England played quick and mindless cricket and let India annihilate them. They did their job in entertaining the largest cricketing audience in the world

  • @majorursine3170
    @majorursine3170Ай бұрын

    Everyday I wake up, and England are preparing for the Ashes

  • @hahayousuckismful

    @hahayousuckismful

    Ай бұрын

    And they lose almost everytime.

  • @ChandanKumar-qc1iy

    @ChandanKumar-qc1iy

    Ай бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @santoshraghavan7662

    @santoshraghavan7662

    Ай бұрын

    Hahahahahahaha

  • @brijspy

    @brijspy

    Ай бұрын

    And then they lose it and carry on again

  • @rajsingh087

    @rajsingh087

    Ай бұрын

    And they end up losing 4-0

  • @VARMOT123
    @VARMOT123Ай бұрын

    I thought 4-1 was a fair result . They deserved to win 1 test . India could've won 1st test and england could've won the 4th test

  • @nandraclan1493

    @nandraclan1493

    Ай бұрын

    It should have been 5-0.

  • @3_smh_3

    @3_smh_3

    Ай бұрын

    Both matches India tried their best to throw the game. In the 1st, they tried harder.

  • @cskwillreturn2473

    @cskwillreturn2473

    Ай бұрын

    What? India deserved to win everything. the outcome was very unfair and im pretty sure Dravid & Co. were too disappointed and shocked after 4-1. should've been 5-0. How bad could anyone have played to lose against doucheball in Indian conditions. extremely devastating

  • @suryasingh9121

    @suryasingh9121

    Ай бұрын

    Iss baar to 5 test mai se 2pitches hee spin ki thi . 1pitch flat thi orr 2 pitches swing favor kar rahi thi phir bhi England 400 + run se hara tha ekk test

  • @suryasingh9121

    @suryasingh9121

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@cskwillreturn2473indian condition se kya Matlab hai tumhara ? Pitch ke bare mai baat kar rahe ho ya weather ke bare mein?

  • @TriggeredinsaanFan2748
    @TriggeredinsaanFan2748Ай бұрын

    India were without most of their first eleven players and still they lost

  • @rjari8578
    @rjari8578Ай бұрын

    Saying had england had bumrah and ashwin, they would have beaten india is just like saying had Bangladesh had anderson and broad they would have beaten england in england 😂😂

  • @abhigyanchatterjee

    @abhigyanchatterjee

    Ай бұрын

    yea that was stupid by Harmi

  • @Snoozefor10minutes

    @Snoozefor10minutes

    Ай бұрын

    They are always like that😅😅, that's why they imported so many players for 2019 wc

  • @ravikirti5027

    @ravikirti5027

    Ай бұрын

    That’s hilarious 😆

  • @DanishSatkut

    @DanishSatkut

    27 күн бұрын

    "If my grandmother had wheels, she would have been a bike." - Gino

  • @gwh3013

    @gwh3013

    2 сағат бұрын

    That's not what he said - he said ''if they had A bumrah' etc. meaning a player of equivalent quality bowling in Indian conditions, rather than who England had. Same as the simple point England will struggle in Australia if they don't have their best pace bowlers fit.

  • @richardnoble3989
    @richardnoble3989Ай бұрын

    "be the best version of yourself" is a fine sentiment and might work for the favourites, but it is blatently untrue when you look at Foakes - dumped because he doesn't score fast enough with the tail. That's not giving him confidence to go out and play his game. If Bazball really was about getting the best out of the best players then Foakes should have batted at 5 in India and been allowed to play his natural game (a county number 5 who builds an innings alongside other proper batters). They are still caught up in the media hype of outrageous fast scoring and risk taking!

  • @JoshF848

    @JoshF848

    Ай бұрын

    Stokes has also said that if a young Alastair Cook was coming through the ranks now, he wouldn't pick him. He has a clear idea of the type of team he wants and certain players don't fit into that. As for Foakes specifically, if I was in charge I'd have played him a lot more but he does now average under 30 - that can't all be blamed on getting stuck batting with the tail, he has failed plenty of times with a set batter at the other end also. Too often he was getting bogged down, lacking a way to release the pressure against the very best bowlers. Also worth pointing out that he was more attacking in his first few years of county cricket, and had some success with the white ball too. It was his choice to focus entirely on batting at 5 against the red ball, it was a great choice for Surrey but was obviously going to harm his international chances.

  • @anubhav111196

    @anubhav111196

    Ай бұрын

    That’s true, they let the media sentiment sway them, I heard somebody saying that bazball is about being positive but what it seems like is that English batsmen only took the ‘playing quick’ part from it and not took ‘building the innings while still be in a position to win the game’

  • @sachinkashyap121
    @sachinkashyap121Ай бұрын

    India didn’t have kohli,pant,shami and KL rahul. 4 key players missing.

  • @Jaydoggie1

    @Jaydoggie1

    Ай бұрын

    jesus you indians chop and change over KL Rahul! he's always the first one to be scapegoated when you lose, then when he's not in the team you say he's a "key player". Make up your minds hahaha

  • @abelabrahom207

    @abelabrahom207

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Jaydoggie1That is true😂

  • @averma12

    @averma12

    Ай бұрын

    @@Jaydoggie1 Not in tests.

  • @Jaydoggie1

    @Jaydoggie1

    Ай бұрын

    @@averma12 no, Rahul is more key to India’s ODI side than test side

  • @averma12

    @averma12

    Ай бұрын

    @@Jaydoggie1 nope. Wrong again. In away tests he's crucial. Especially now that rohit is 3 7

  • @jetpark3743
    @jetpark3743Ай бұрын

    India ended Bazball and Australia's Gabba winning streak

  • @jatinsharma7347
    @jatinsharma7347Ай бұрын

    India beaten bazzball with b team and that too on flat wickets that doesnot had more spin still england lost the series 4-1

  • @amoghdhodapkar1338
    @amoghdhodapkar1338Ай бұрын

    Just for context- That Aussie team with Langer Hayden Ponting Martyn were scoring more than 4.5- 5 an over in the noughties. That's it. What England did as a collective is not novel. Has been done in the past and that too successfully

  • @visheshgoel6671

    @visheshgoel6671

    25 күн бұрын

    Thank you great sir!! I was getting mad thinking about why people just don’t want to acknowledge the fact that what England is doing has been done before and in a much more effective manner!

  • @harifederer
    @harifedererАй бұрын

    “It should have been 2-2 before the fifth test.” I really dislike these nonsensical hypothetical arguments. Yeah it could have been 2-2 but it could easily have been 4-0, in fact it was closer to the latter than the former. Ollie Pope was dropped how many times again?

  • @SK-hs4fp
    @SK-hs4fpАй бұрын

    Kimber saying that other teams adopted some aspects of bazball is disingenuous. Others didn't. It's like claiming that virendar sehwag somehow time traveled to the future, got the idea from England and then adopted it in back in his own time. Or the stupid claim that yashaswi jaiswal was copying the idea... That's so stupid.

  • @rajivjalota3487
    @rajivjalota3487Ай бұрын

    Virender Sehwag , Gilchrist, Rishi Pant started before England did Baz Ball

  • @anshathani1987

    @anshathani1987

    Ай бұрын

    That is one player, England are doing it collectively. Of course that makes it more difficult. Sehwag and Gilchrist striking fast was compensated by sturdy top order. England want to hit 6 runs an over but barring Root don't have anyone who can stay quiet and play out a spell or session.

  • @nooneknows19

    @nooneknows19

    Ай бұрын

    If you're going that route. Trumper was the OG bazballer. A sr of 77 as an opener in the 1910s.

  • @akshayganesh4144

    @akshayganesh4144

    Ай бұрын

    No nz played it much before England. Remember 2024-15 season. So many players such as mccullum, Kane, Corey Anderson, jimmy neeshham etc

  • @davidanbudurai5931

    @davidanbudurai5931

    Ай бұрын

    Sehwag did it while averaging almost 50

  • @davesmith2194

    @davesmith2194

    Ай бұрын

    How dare you put pant in the same sentence as sehwag and gilchrist 😂😂😂

  • @Snoozefor10minutes
    @Snoozefor10minutesАй бұрын

    England has been able to play bazzball in England only because of the flat decks there, i dont think England can play well on any other surface

  • @abhinay4200

    @abhinay4200

    Ай бұрын

    Unfortunately ,most test teams are of poor quality , Sri Lanka , West Indies and Pakistan are not great test sides . England , Australia and India are top 3 test sides , England can play bazball against all other sides with great sucess .

  • @abcd-fw2fd

    @abcd-fw2fd

    Ай бұрын

    Sa>>eng Check where eng is on the points table​@@abhinay4200

  • @nikunjdixit1175
    @nikunjdixit1175Ай бұрын

    The style of cricket is not the problem. The arrogance was the problem. Making stupid decisions out of arrogance is what looses them games. Happened in the Ashes and happened in India. Root trying to reverse sweep Bumrah, if I remember right, has got to be one of the symbols of Bazball stupidity. But more than that, it was the rubbish some of the players said in the media that irked fans. When you are last on the WTC table, losing 1-4, and you failed to win the Ashes, then those statements sound genuinely delusional.

  • @Cafe--Racer
    @Cafe--RacerАй бұрын

    As I understood it, the one unique aspect of test cricket was to bat as long as possible not only to accumulate runs but also to tire out opposition bowlers so that they have less to give in 2nd innings and as the series progress that workload manifest itself in making batsman life easier the longer they play. "Bazball " has given away that crucial advantage willingly.

  • @7ChaosBlack

    @7ChaosBlack

    18 күн бұрын

    There's a merit to piling on runs quickly but you can do it without being harakiri. English batsman are incapable of constructing an innings. The 80s West Indies side, which imo, is hands down the most dominating Test side in history went to India in 1983 and won 3-0 (6 Test series) playing proper Test cricket.

  • @simplemaths7611
    @simplemaths7611Ай бұрын

    In overseas Ashes last 3 series, 5-0, 4-0, 4-0, lol

  • @nandraclan1493

    @nandraclan1493

    Ай бұрын

    Whereas India, who apparently 'don't travel too well' have won consecutive series in Australia 2-1, 2-1. Sometimes I wonder if Harmison even watches the game properly.

  • @technological1401

    @technological1401

    Ай бұрын

    @@nandraclan1493 He's English mate

  • @7ChaosBlack

    @7ChaosBlack

    18 күн бұрын

    @@nandraclan1493 Dont forget that in 2018/19, rain prevented 3-1. Also India didn't even play that badly in Adelaide when they were rolled for 36 in their 2nd innings.

  • @arjuncalidas2736
    @arjuncalidas2736Ай бұрын

    Bazball in concept is very negative. At least in the series against India it was. England almost always played 4 bowlers and were struggling to take 20 wickets each game. They ended up taking 78/100 available wickets, and India took all 100. England throwing away a few sure helped, but India had some of their all time greats in that attack, and England were never competing in that department. The onus and eyeballs are always on the batters in Bazball. It will almost never work against better quality attacks especially when the conditions do not suit the English bowlers. The game that England won, they won by 28 runs or something like that. Pretty close. This after they had India for like some 100/7. Rest of the games were pretty one sided. 100 runs, 400 odd runs, 5 wickets, an innings and so on. 4-1 is flattering England a lot, especially with the bowling they had. I think that England will end up preparing flat wickets in England where they will feel like they can chase anything (300-400) against lesser attacks like Windies and Sri Lanka. The real challenge will come when they play India or Australia with much better bowling attacks who can actually defend scores.

  • @dr.shaun.g
    @dr.shaun.gАй бұрын

    It’s not surprising how Jarrod has deflected the question. When and how the English hypocrisy end. 4-1 is fair reflection of absolute debacle of England in India.

  • @overlord091
    @overlord091Ай бұрын

    4:34 Yeah and it could be 5-0 as well

  • @aanchitgovind581
    @aanchitgovind581Ай бұрын

    If England would have really given any real hedaches, it would have reflected in a 3-2 result. Truth is, Indian cricket was much better than English cricket and English cricket was just making schoolboy errors of being egoistic and aggressive on everything as they kept losing in the series. If you can't defend, you have so many shots out of your game and shows you aren't even technically adept for this level 😊

  • @malstainkey
    @malstainkeyАй бұрын

    Ultra attacking cricket, like Aus sometimes play, also know as "Bazball" , only works against weaker opponents. Equal teams or a better opponent ! - you need to defend and wear your opponents down to earn the opportunity to attack.

  • @rafaybilal3395
    @rafaybilal3395Ай бұрын

    All this discussion a year and half prior for the Sydney weather to decide wether it will be a 4-0 or 5-0

  • @kitesfrombihar
    @kitesfrombiharАй бұрын

    If my aunt has moustache then she will be my uncle 😂

  • @lightsabre87
    @lightsabre87Ай бұрын

    Bazzball or no Bazzball. Until England learn to bowl and play spin, they can’t come close to beating India or even Australia in their own backyards.

  • @davidmeiklejohn9800
    @davidmeiklejohn9800Ай бұрын

    The other big difference in the next Ashes will be bigger grounds, hopefully, pitches with a bit more pace and a fit Nathan Lyon. India did well by letting England score quickly and then batted long to grind England's bowlers into the dirt.

  • @abhinashkumar3161

    @abhinashkumar3161

    Ай бұрын

    That's the mantra 😂

  • @santoshraghavan7662
    @santoshraghavan7662Ай бұрын

    Harmy intresting that india also won without lara mcgrath warne and sobers.. so it kind of evens out that england didnt have ashwin and bumrah

  • @xtrongaming6639
    @xtrongaming6639Ай бұрын

    "it should have been 2-2 " bro you lost wake up you are sleeping its written LOST on the series score card

  • @ashishnair12

    @ashishnair12

    Ай бұрын

    It could have been 5-0 too because India very rarely lose matches at home from that situation.

  • @jatin9070

    @jatin9070

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@ashishnair12if our tail had survived 30 minutes more ,we would have won the 1st one too. People really need to see that scorecard .

  • @harshavardhanreddy3806
    @harshavardhanreddy3806Ай бұрын

    One thing watching this England cricket is they don’t play the situation like India and Australia does in test cricket. Bazball is completely failure they couldn’t even qualify for one WTC final .

  • @zoogle-fs6gv
    @zoogle-fs6gvАй бұрын

    What is the point of bazball in a five day game? It is like a general keeping the tactics the same without consideration to the terrain or circumstances.

  • @chinmay4331
    @chinmay4331Ай бұрын

    It’s funny how everyone has a different interpretation of what Bazball is.

  • @TriggeredinsaanFan2748
    @TriggeredinsaanFan2748Ай бұрын

    Well it is not working because england are not winning...this thing about entertaining the crowd and all is total BS.

  • @cskwillreturn2473
    @cskwillreturn2473Ай бұрын

    Boozeball is really interesting. I think England should not stop entertaining spectators. Moreover Kids like Jaiswals, Williamsons, probably Pukovskies in future has so much to learn from Ben Buckets, Harry Brooms and Hairstows entertaining cricket. I kinda like how Harami exactly pointed out the difference in the skill level of English bowlers in Indian conditions that let them down. I wish Stokes and his overrated coach listens to this and keeps doing what they do best and stick to Doucheball. This England red bull team has wings

  • @siddharthreddiar3353
    @siddharthreddiar3353Ай бұрын

    Harmison just sounds like he doesn't have a clue or he has a clear England Bias. Jarrod needs to have these talks with George Dobell, Bhogle or Dinesh Karthik

  • @ASHISHMISHRA-qd5sz
    @ASHISHMISHRA-qd5szАй бұрын

    just for once recognise the fact that england is sitting at last in WTC table

  • @wackyadz06

    @wackyadz06

    Ай бұрын

    Your mum has a moustache

  • @ASHISHMISHRA-qd5sz

    @ASHISHMISHRA-qd5sz

    Ай бұрын

    @@wackyadz06 and i didnt expected any better reply from you brother

  • @VARMOT123
    @VARMOT123Ай бұрын

    It works on the flattest of odi type test pitches that stay flat on the 5th day like that on 5th test against india in 2022 . In other difficult pitches ,it is the same mediocre team

  • @debayanmajumder6630
    @debayanmajumder6630Ай бұрын

    I reckon bazball as very effective brand of cricket.England was in winning position at some point in all first 3 test matches. Earlier in 21,16 England never looked to be in the contention while playing test in India. But 2024 series was made so engrossing due to England's new style of cricket. They should continue like this.

  • @yaswanthkumar91112
    @yaswanthkumar91112Ай бұрын

    Australia is not worrying about england, they're more worrying about india for next bgt. Only England people are hyping next ashes. Aus players know who are more competitive to them in their own backyard.

  • @pritambanerjee7172
    @pritambanerjee717217 күн бұрын

    India did not put an end to Bazball; rather, Bazball changed how India has been preparing test match pitches for the last 10 years on home soil. Rank turners turned out to be boomerang for India in the first test. Ollie Pope's innings was a medicine that fixed Indian pitches. Hopefully, India keep making good wickets, and Kohli can make 15 more test centuries before he retires.

  • @dr.shaun.g
    @dr.shaun.gАй бұрын

    England team has been exposed by India. England cricket has been reduced to Meagre mortals and skeletons. India truly destroyed Bazzball once and forever. Jarrod Kimber and Harmisons’s beating around the bush is hypocrisy at its best. It’s not surprising how Jarrod has deflected the question.

  • @mcdelive
    @mcdeliveАй бұрын

    Bazball would still likely to work at home for England... Its the away games whether its Bazball or Boring-ball they'd still likely to lose !

  • @anshumansingh7725
    @anshumansingh7725Ай бұрын

    Isn’t England last on the table in test championship?

  • @supremegodemperordonaldtru3563
    @supremegodemperordonaldtru3563Ай бұрын

    Bazball is a repackaged version of Jayasuriya ball.

  • @dr.shaun.g
    @dr.shaun.gАй бұрын

    There is absolutely no doubt that India has killed Bazzball. Bazzball is just an overhyped concept in English cricket and a ridiculous excuse to show how pathetic England team is in foreign soil. You can call it bazzball or whatever else, there is no way to survive Indian dominance! Period.

  • @dr.shaun.g

    @dr.shaun.g

    Ай бұрын

    England team has been exposed by India. England cricket has been reduced to Meagre mortals and skeletons. India truly destroyed Bazzball once and forever. Jarrod Kimber and Harmisons’s beating around the bush is hypocrisy at its best. It’s not surprising how Jarrod has deflected the question. When and how the English hypocrisy end. 4-1 is fair reflection of absolute debacle of England in India.

  • @sbramp
    @sbrampАй бұрын

    England miraclulously won the first test by bare 28 runs, and were barely competitive in 4th test and were spanked around brutally for the other tests. In all honesty, sirs, your analysis of English performance is getting blinded by the glamour of fast paced slogging of "bazball". If England could have managed a 2-2 in this eries, one could say India should have won 2018 series 2-1 rather than losing 1-4. What's England W/L ratio in current WTC cycle? 3/6, England sits at the bottom of the table. It works on lesser teams better teams will simply outplay you. Australia and India have already proven it, SA and NZ can very well match it. Hardly any good test teams left are there?

  • @naturemeditation3751
    @naturemeditation3751Ай бұрын

    Don’t agree with Kimber on here - bazball was nothing more than a storm in a tea cup … the idea of bazball was seen much earlier in many forms in test cricket so don’t think bazball as such was anything new or added any extra value

  • @rakeshkrishnan1099
    @rakeshkrishnan1099Ай бұрын

    In the last 5 - 6 years which team has been better at winning in overseas conditions, England or India?. Stats says it's India, but hardcore English fans says its England

  • @cricketg6616

    @cricketg6616

    29 күн бұрын

    Can't they see things 😂

  • @abrahamabhishek4240
    @abrahamabhishek4240Ай бұрын

    England turned up in India with an attack full pf bowlers with asterisks against their names: Anderson *too old to bowl long enough; Wood *too fragile to bowl long enough; Bahsser, Hartley, Rehan *too young and experienced to bowl well enough for long enough. The idea that it could have been 2-2 going into the last Test is ridiculous. The one Test they won was on the back of a freak innings by Pope where he survived the highest percentage of false shots ever.

  • @regalalien
    @regalalienАй бұрын

    Is Bazball tactics? Strategy? Harmy suggests it's some kind of self-affirmation mantra. Duckett thought it was a proxy for good defensive technique. Ultimately lasting success in Test cricket depends on having really good players working together as a team. One objective measure of goodness is the ICC Test player rankings. England have 3 of the top 20 batsmen in the world and 2 of the top 20 bowlers. For comparison, Australia have 4 and 4 respectively, and India have 5 and 4 respectively. In a 11-player team, these numbers mean something. Factor in that neither of England's two top 20 bowlers will be playing the Ashes in Australia in 2025 and you have to rely on Archer and Wood to be injury free if you want to have bowlers with some experience. It doesn't look promising.

  • @devendrasingh5664
    @devendrasingh566423 күн бұрын

    Just because they gave it a name - "Bazball" doesn't mean they invented it. Many players have been doing it for so many years.

  • @aim1578
    @aim1578Ай бұрын

    There were so many players who did aggressive batting at the start of their innings way earlier than what we are seeing now as a new fad. From the legend Don Bradman, Vivian Richards, K Srikanth, Vinod Kambli, Sanath Jayasurya, Virendra Sehwag, Gilchrist , M Hayden, H Gibbs, ABD and eventually M Slater and that carried onto English team during his coaching which English people have got this crazy obsession of Labeling nonsense which is so alike Americans too who do the same, *Labeling Forced Fad Branding culture*. They labelled this and promoted it as if they invented it and aggressively talk about it if no one ever done it, and each time they beat around it as, "This is not that, that is not this" kind of argument. Rather than running around labeling and promoting, just accept that there are players who played it far better and effectively and has been for ages than all these. Than more than trying hard to self proclaim as ITS ENGLISH STYLE, you can just play and win. And winning makes a huge difference. Indians who did played this many times before just played and won. Simple. They weren't running after labeling bullshit and promoting it as if THEY DID THIS kind of ego trip. England team currently need a clear headed straight forward self introspective Coach and just like that a Captain who just speaks facts, than all these nonsensical trumpeting of BS. The current fad team is filled with American idea of turning Cricket into some kind of ELITE SPORT JUST FOR THEMSELVES played in air conditioned stadiums. So are their players speak the same way infront of media, as if no one knows how to play the game, and no one ever played.

  • @NandaKumar-bx8qc
    @NandaKumar-bx8qcАй бұрын

    Good Spin will take out Bazball 9.5 times out of 10.try Bazball against Kuldeep Yadav

  • @vishuindia1113
    @vishuindia1113Ай бұрын

    The pitches during ind vs eng series, were the best india as offered any visiting team in last 5 years.

  • @cricketg6616

    @cricketg6616

    29 күн бұрын

    I agree with u but i guess South africa had played on the best surfaces I've seen in india in last decade. I guess it was in 2019 and they were true sporting wickets

  • @sarveshgaurav
    @sarveshgauravАй бұрын

    Eng are not thinking to win test matches but just ficus on ashes..overhyped team.. they need to shown that hey belong to no.10

  • @sandeepverma7288
    @sandeepverma7288Ай бұрын

    Every English cricket expert has been hell bent on propagating bazball as the greatest evolution in test cricket. They got beaten comprehensively in India but still not woken up to reality. Jarrod is correct in saying mediocrity of English batters forces them to play aggressively and try to hide their shortcomings.

  • @chandramouli1832
    @chandramouli183228 күн бұрын

    Actually...In any format ...If the pitch is not flat England team will struggle against any big teams ( India , Aus , NZ, SA ...even Afg ) ... that's the reality Nowadays except Buttler all the batters of this England team are careless ( not selfless) ... without knowing the conditions of the pitch

  • @niranjanramarajan6082
    @niranjanramarajan6082Ай бұрын

    The problem with England is they just keep thinking of ashes.

  • @chandrakantpattnaik9057
    @chandrakantpattnaik9057Ай бұрын

    Bazball work against minnows team like pak zim ireland WI Bangladesh sl😂😂😂😂but they totally demoralized by big team like india australia South Africa 😂😂😂

  • @hitchwriter
    @hitchwriter29 күн бұрын

    4-1 was absolutely fair. What all experts and England are missing is they do not have 7-8 bowlers competing for 4 spots. Till they have a bowling attack thats well rounded. In Tests they will fall short. Batting might win a game or two. Series though are won by bowlers. Too much emphasis on batting and not enough on bowlers.

  • @SugarCoatedPills
    @SugarCoatedPillsАй бұрын

    England team started hyping Bazball in 2016 and it worked great for them, 2019 was a prime example of that. They were ruthless and the mind games were plenty on display. As with every ploy, it chips off slowly before coming to a full stop. They got caught rather opposition started reading their game pretty well especially Australia and India. England needs to come up with something new.

  • @dimejoe2621
    @dimejoe2621Ай бұрын

    Bazball kinda worked in test for a while and woosh gone, the same thing was applied in ODI and the result is infront with ODIWC performance, last but not the least T20WC I actually thought that it'll work in t20s and ENG would be the champions again because of bazball approach but I was wrong. Time for ENG to approach every format as it is and give respect to the format, also play the pitch and situation instead of looking for glory & moral victory✌🏻

  • @saurabhb1041
    @saurabhb1041Ай бұрын

    The defensive option doesn’t work for England batters because they don’t trust their defense. You hav to be technically solid to know how to defend in challenging conditions.

  • @zizoucris10
    @zizoucris10Ай бұрын

    Ashes Ashes Ashes jeez! The obsession

  • @lowlifelh

    @lowlifelh

    Ай бұрын

    Obsession? yes absolutely! English and Australian players are judged at home by wat they did in the ashes at the end of their career, that's just the way it is, and it always will be

  • @ericcartmansh
    @ericcartmanshАй бұрын

    All this talk... anything other than 5-0/4-1 aus will be a shocking result

  • @patilssketchart7252
    @patilssketchart7252Ай бұрын

    I think Australia started aggressive way of batting in tests. They averaged 4+ in their batting when rest of the teams were below 3. And yes Sehwag upfront as an opener helped our team to score quickly. But Baz ball I feel its more than batting. Its taking aggressive decisions with our giving opposition time to breathe whether its batting or fielding.

  • @madhumurthykumbum4789
    @madhumurthykumbum4789Ай бұрын

    Test cricket is a different ball game. The rules are different and play accordingly. You can make it more exciting by changing the rules rather than changing the methods of playing the game.

  • @Krishh10
    @Krishh10Ай бұрын

    Why nobody is talking about how India played without their full strength batting strength (only Rohit and Gill was there)... cause when India won the series in Australia in 2018 everyone was saying that it's because Smith and Warner was absent

  • @WestHope-h6f
    @WestHope-h6fАй бұрын

    Any method is good as long as u can produce results. Or should rethink if being bullish is good? Or go back to drawing board and try another strategy

  • @nastybadger-tn4kl
    @nastybadger-tn4klАй бұрын

    I generally like steve harmison commentary and analysis. Issue in india is that Kuldeep and Axar Patel are clever spinners. You cant hit them out like they can do with ashwin. Ashwin need beach sand dust bowl pitch , otherwise he is a weak spinner. Kuldeep and axar is beast even if pitch give small amount of spin. Key though indian crowd energy. The 12th man with smart spinners. There is only team can mirror what england does on bazball is australia. Aussies will route england. aussies are ok team but they are smart team

  • @k1ngneel782

    @k1ngneel782

    Ай бұрын

    😂 good one

  • @YuvrajSingh-eb4mv

    @YuvrajSingh-eb4mv

    Ай бұрын

    Na buddy. You're way off about Ashwin. Ash at the peak of his powers was the best test spinner in the world, regardless of the pitch

  • @nastybadger-tn4kl

    @nastybadger-tn4kl

    Ай бұрын

    @@YuvrajSingh-eb4mv only in ashwins mind

  • @someoneschannel5142

    @someoneschannel5142

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@nastybadger-tn4klgo and watch border gavaskar trophy 2021 and even 2018 eng tour...

  • @divyanshbudhiraja3355
    @divyanshbudhiraja3355Ай бұрын

    So basically these guys are saying england need better, fit fast bowlers, a solid wicket keeper, a solid number 3, and solid number 4,5,6 and maybe they can win. Thanks for your expert opinion😂.

  • @daraiusardeshir7792
    @daraiusardeshir7792Ай бұрын

    Put whatever spin on it you want - the earlier much touted BazBall which worked vs weak teams, was decimated by India. 4:1 is a total drubbing !!

  • @nah0725
    @nah0725Ай бұрын

    England played better then any traveling team in recent years. But it's also a fact ,the pitches were not land mines like other team got in the past .

  • @jrishab
    @jrishabАй бұрын

    Bazball is good if only 1-2 players play in the aggressive way,while other players consolidate the innings....if the whole team will tun with same gear, there are higher chances of collapses,which happened many times with england....one or two aggressive players are there in almost every good test side,cause they are the game changers,while if whole team does that,it is gonna fail

  • @catseyereflex6774
    @catseyereflex677413 күн бұрын

    Imagine celebrating to such extent for barely winning matches at home..

  • @russhouldin5774
    @russhouldin5774Ай бұрын

    They're still spouting the bs about playing without doubt or fear etc.. in some ways I'm surprised. Harmison was a pro cricketer. Is he saying he played with fear and doubt? What about his peers? Now he was a bowler but "Bazball" is really all about batting. Did Hammond, Hutton, May, Dexter, Boycott, Gooch, Edrich, to name a few, lack the mental strength now shown by mediocrities like Crawley, Duckett, Pope? But more than , that the 1,000s of cricketers who wore the 3 lions before them: did they all have it wrong, waiting for Baz McCullum to show them the way? No, the fact that they made it to test level means they had the necessary belief in their abilities. It's the sheer ignorance of it all that gets me. And the arrogance, born of ignorance. Witness Stokes telling people that seeing him enriched their lives. Everyone who played test cricket wrestled with doubts and fears and some overcame and some didnt. Playing "white ball" batting works against weak teams but not against equals or betters. Playing aggressively goes back to Warwick Armstrong in Oz and has been carried forward by Bradman, Benaud, Chappell, Waugh and now Cummins to name a few. Yes, perhaps, it's not been the English way but Illingworth was pretty aggressive as, in his own way, was Brearley. The "bottom line" was well-stated by Kimber: a lineup of bats with averages in the 30s (Root excepted, Brook to be seen) isnt going to get it done vs India and Oz.

  • @jonesy1328
    @jonesy1328Ай бұрын

    Would love to see Sam Hain at 3 however, he doesn't do it for Warwickshire and therefore, unlikely.

  • @kalyankrishna745
    @kalyankrishna74520 күн бұрын

    Joe root would have had 2 more centuries if he would have played his natural game which later on after 3 tests he realized it.

  • @srd707
    @srd707Ай бұрын

    I must admit, every time I see the heading "bazball" in a video, I see an ex-English player or an English commentator explain what it is, and how it's different than what people think. England, meanwhile, still sits at the bottom of the WTC table and hasn't won a series against India or Australia. And of course, they are always preparing for the next Ashes.

  • @Muyeen1
    @Muyeen1Ай бұрын

    Why are they talking about Ashes when Ashes starts from November 2025? Hope West Indies or Srilanka beats England in a test or 2.

  • @cricketg6616

    @cricketg6616

    29 күн бұрын

    They even have India touring them before ashes

  • @sandeepssangha
    @sandeepssanghaАй бұрын

    British discovered Sehwag from old video, with a carrier Test match Strike rate of 82.23, with 23 hundreds and 32 fifties and couple of 300 scored in a single day. Looted Sehwag play to make it their own discovery of a new fancy name Bazball, just like the stole "LOOT" word from India long time back. Story to relate - British Husband (looking at sun) : "look honey that shiny white ball in sky i just discovered after all that rain, I am going to call it Fireball" Wife ":What a idiot its been there SINCE BEFORE YOU WERE BORN" PS: And Before Sehwag, there was Viv Richards, sorry to say british were too late to the party.

  • @dr.vijayanraju3656
    @dr.vijayanraju3656Ай бұрын

    BAZBALL was a good thing for test cricket and it was good thing India were able to beat in our backyard .... cos test matches need such innovation or else it's difficult to survive in the face of T20

  • @ayushmishra91
    @ayushmishra91Ай бұрын

    Let me tell you folks that series didn't kill bazball. It murdered it. Yesterday England was going at max 4.72 against windies. You know Jaiswal and Rohit went at 7.23 against England at one stage. Let me tell you 18 months from today BazBall would be put to coffin in Adelaide, Australia 1st Test.

  • @nillieable
    @nillieableАй бұрын

    You can bazzball when you bat. You can't bazzbowl. When you bazball, the opposition has got more time to bat. And bat normally. That is almost like gifting the opposition a win.

  • @user-jz6pq4zx3e
    @user-jz6pq4zx3eАй бұрын

    Bazball requires pitches extremely batting friendly(Pakistan) or extremely bowling friendly(South Africa).

  • @russhouldin5774
    @russhouldin5774Ай бұрын

    Jarrod is simply wrong about how the English bats "change the length" of the bowlers. That's what separates great from good, good from mediocre from the the invention of cricket and at every level.! Great bats dont allow bowlers to set a length. Most bats cant do this. Consider the GOAT - Bradman. Bowlers had nowhere to bowl to him. If it were a hair short he'd pull it; if it were a hair long he'd drive. This is true of the all the greats subsequently. The idea that bowlers cant find a length because Pope is slogging is ludicrous. They know he, and others, might get away with it for a while (in the India innings they cite he was incredibly lucky) but he's a 35 average. As for the sweep and reverse sweep putting the fear of god into spinners, just replay recordings the India series. Total disaster. Even Root drank the koolaid and only became himself when he stopped with the sweeps. (To be pedantic, they're "laps" not sweeps. A sweep is a perfectly fine shot to a ball on leg or outside; a lap is the same stroke to a ball on the stumps or outside off. Reverse sweeps are incredibly stupid because a ball outside off can garner an lbw which is not the case for an actual sweep; they make certain amount of sense in whiteball but none in redball.

  • @yashsingh1631
    @yashsingh1631Ай бұрын

    We didn't have bumrah, Ashwin, Jadeja or we would have beaten india. What a dumb argument. It's like us saying if ms dhoni had Anderson,broad with him he would have beaten England in England. U didn't have them bcz ur system doesn't prioritise spinners.

  • @dipamgandhi6350
    @dipamgandhi6350Ай бұрын

    Lol of course. All you need is Burmah, Ash, Jaddu to beat India in India.

  • @AbhishekSingh-rb3de
    @AbhishekSingh-rb3deАй бұрын

    Bazball was a pill sold successfully by Ben and co. and their customers are still high on that. The Bazball was indeed put to sleep in India. Only blind haters could defend that. All the tracks in India were perfect pitch where the match mostly went on to 5th day unlike 2021. The only time it couldnt was because how awful English batsmen were barring the first match. And to add to that their bowlers were equally bad. They prepare for every ashes just to eventually lose that.

  • @jaganathanvimal9194
    @jaganathanvimal9194Ай бұрын

    Concentrate on winning the west indies series, then talk about the ashes

  • @rahuln3910
    @rahuln3910Ай бұрын

    I felt that bazball or what ever it was made test interesting even in Indian series even made Indian team play the same bazball if u check Jaiswal and Sarfaraz but it was fantastic series

  • @MayurBirari
    @MayurBirariАй бұрын

    Discussion should not be about bazball, but about execution of it and the lack of skill to adapt. England batters are flat wicket bullies. Ask them to defend and bazball goes out the door!

  • @Snoozefor10minutes
    @Snoozefor10minutesАй бұрын

    I think England will now import a lot more players just like they did before 2019 WC

  • @mohsinseikh7939
    @mohsinseikh7939Ай бұрын

    R.I.P. BazBall

  • @satish9357
    @satish9357Ай бұрын

    Lol if not for Axar we would've struggled against Australia. Australia were far more competitive than England in India. Could've, should've, would've whotf cares, you lost, that's the bottom line. If bazzball was that good of an approach be it for the team or for the players, results would've been different. It just didn't work.

  • @kundalkumarsarmah6991
    @kundalkumarsarmah6991Ай бұрын

    Who is that guy to the right?? He is very logical.

  • @kapslock2404

    @kapslock2404

    Ай бұрын

    Jarrod Kimber.. he an Aussie not Brit

  • @JayadevPanda-nh7me
    @JayadevPanda-nh7meАй бұрын

    Bazball has dented the cricket off england bring good players

  • @ramansrinivasan8580
    @ramansrinivasan8580Ай бұрын

    The first test was a gift from KL Rahul to England. India should have won 5-0. That was more reflective of Englands slam bam approach🎉

  • @suchith9327
    @suchith9327Ай бұрын

    I think in next 4-5 years india is going to be the team who will dominate test cricket . Looking at other teams who can challenge india is england and australia and they are already in declining there bowling attacks are becoming weak ..after jimmi and broad there are no bowlers at that level to represent them and on the other hand australia did not have quality spinner and opening slot is also vunerable and indian bowling attack is getting better by inclusion of atshdeep . ❤

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