Very useful video Caleb! Shame that little one wasn’t better. It surely is time for camera manufacturers to put in Bluetooth audio for monitoring!

@sinsico

4 жыл бұрын

Philip Bloom I can confirm the Hagibis in fact works perfectly with an aptX Low Latency headset. Avantree pairs well together just testing it out now & impressed with results!

@ianstuart5689

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Philip, is there a reason you use B&W P3 headphones in your MZed?

@philipbloom

4 жыл бұрын

@@ianstuart5689 do I? Good headphones

@ianstuart5689

4 жыл бұрын

@@philipbloom A red pair in the pole dancer interview, learned so much from the videos too. Many thanks

@philipbloom

4 жыл бұрын

@@ianstuart5689 oh yes. I like those. nice solid hard case. cheers!

Very practical topic, thank you for making this contect. 3 years has gone since this video, Caleb, have you found some better transmitter recently? New updated video would be nice one as this is still very relevant topic.

I love this channel so much. My bank account? Not as big a fan.

@MattJacques

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly! The recommendations are almost always so spot-on, it's hard to avoid the gearlust.

@Channel323

4 жыл бұрын

this channel is awesome alot of great information and done in a smooth way. I will be looking into those silver bluetooth wireless. Thanks Caleb.

@dslrvideoshooter

4 жыл бұрын

Haha! I’m so sorry!

@SpaceAgeConsulting

4 жыл бұрын

@@dslrvideoshooter No you're not! LOL. But we don't mind. Keep providing us with links to innovative products to help our production value and we will keep right on watching.

Thanks for all you do Caleb! Anxiously awaiting your S1 video and training. Just updated mine the other day.

Great job! I appreciate all the hard work that went into this episode! Keep on grinding!

Impossible to miss 30 seconds to give you a million thanks for this detailed totorial of great help to choose a decent auidio setup among thousands of options, you saved my time friend, thank you!

Do you know what would be ever better? If camera manufacturers that sell those $2K+ cameras would just put that small BT chip with aptX (that cost less than $5 on aliexpress) inside and simply allow users to monitor audio wirelessly by directly connecting to the camera. I mean, they could even go crazy and have like a delay adjustment in the menu for those with BT headphones without low latency mode. That way they won't even need to waste space for that pesky 3.5mm headphone jack for monitoring (which they don't bother to put into most cameras anyway), and also they would be able to put this feature even in very compact bodies like Sony RX100 lineup. Imaging living in that world! Oh, one can only hope… In any case, Caleb, thanks for the video!

@dslrvideoshooter

4 жыл бұрын

FrytechTV exactly!

@anhquansei

4 жыл бұрын

Do you know why? Because monitor headphones are called monitors not headphone for a reason. First of all latency, bluetooth is digital, encoding and decoding take time. Second is digital, bluetooth connection is slow and no way match the frequency range and transmitting rate of analog, thus wont fully represent the full spectrum of the audio recorded thus not monitoring any more. Bluetooth 5.0 will certainly bring new players to the table but 5.0 is relatively new so it takes time.

@Frytech

4 жыл бұрын

Nguyễn Anh Quân Don’t want to be too harsh, but are you one of those people who thinks vinyl is superior and gold plated hdmi cables are a must have? Dude, even 15+yo ancient BT2.0 can transmit at the rates of 2Mb/s! Top quality aac/mp3 needs only 0.3Mb/s for quality that is indistinguishable from uncompressed wav files, what frequency range are you talking about? I watch videos everyday with my AirPods and have 0 problems with latency, damn, I can even use them in GarageBand for melody sketches and there and only there, for input, you start noticing delay and time lag, not for output which is what we’re talking here about. Manufacturers don’t do it because most of them are lazy non-innovative cash grabbing monstrosities. I mean, take a look at pro-video market. It’s smaller companies like Blackmagic who deliver amazing and revolutionary products nowadays, not Canons of the world.

@anhquansei

4 жыл бұрын

@@Frytech Dude, first of all, consumer technology is trickled down from professional technology. I'll talk from consumer perspective. A7SII XAVC codec record audio at 48khz 16bit which is approximately 1.5mbps. APTX LL codec data rate is 420kbps, which is one third the recording rate, so listening to the audio transmitted via APTX LL codec you are actually listening to one third of what being recorded. Defeat the purpose of monitoring, how is this significant? Have you ever heard of the problem where the picture on camera screen differ from what you see on your monitor? Do you want to listen to a record thinking yes everything is fine only later to realize there are some weird sound that had been filtered out by the encoding and decoding process? Beside, APTX LL codec is licensed by Qualcolmn, require both transmitter and receiver to be certified to work. Do you want to pay more money for the camera then pay more money for a headphone to use it? How many people use bluetooth headphone? How many of them are APTX LL compatible? Airpods are not APTX LL compatible I must remind you. They have latency around 120ms, look it up if you dont believe me. Moreover, BT2.0 transmits at the rate of 0.7Mbps, bluetooth 4.2 transmits @ 1Mbps, BT5 transmits @ 2Mbps so get your fact straight. Secondly, watching video on youtube and using apps via bluetooth headphone is different from monitoring live recording. The system (phone, pc) compensate for the latency by actually playing the audio ahead because they are able to do so. Want me to prove it? Instead of listening directly via your phone bluetooth, plug a transmitter in via 3.5mm port on your phone, then connect your headphone to the transmitter and tell me if there is latency or not. Thirdly, there are Fujifilm, Blackmagic, Sony, Canon, Nikon, Panasonic, 6 major players in consumer market right now and they are very competitive. If this idea is that necessary and lucrative and so easy to do why none of them have jumped on the ship yet? Please refer to my second paragraph for the answer. Now let's talk about professional market Manufacturer dont do it because the consumer doesnt need it/the technology is not there yet to meet the standard. Meet any pro audio guys who work professionally and ask them about bluetooth audio to see if they're going to laugh at your face or not. Look up wireless audio monitoring system and tell me how you are going to fit that into a consumer camera body. Beside wireless audio use radio, which is analog, digital has just came into the market very recently and again they are for consumer, not professional. Blackmagic cameras are very consumer and prosumer oriented and they have their own market. Professional cinema cameras come from Panavision, RED, Arri. Professional broadcast/ENG camera however dominated by Sony, Panasonic and Canon. Canon however started the DSLR video camera trend in 2008 with their 5D mark II so dont say that they are not innovative. What I'm trying to say is you are a consumer and have consumer mindset so clearly you want this and want that and think it's easy to do so but actually it is not. Technology has always been developing and has it own limitations. One day when the technology is there you will see it. There are a lot to talk about if you are interested I will tell you more about bluetooth audio in general and why manufactures dont include them in their camera to be specific. I've watched some of your videos, you're clearly very biased and need to work more on your knowledge. Calling people fan boy when being called out is not a way to develop a news channel. Comparing a lossy audio format to a lossless uncompressed wav format and telling they are equivalent is ridiculous, yes they are equivalent if you are listening from a 30$ headphone, or... bluetooth headphone. It's like saying that an 1000$ iPhone can shoot video equivalent to a 50000$ ARRI. Yes it is equivalent if you're watching from a 3 inch screen, via KZread, at 360p.

@Video-Connects

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree - I just purchased the Canon XF-400 video camera which only has wifi - no bluetooth - would be so nice if it had bluetooth built in

Loving your new studio setup, well deserved and looking forward to see what more fun videos you create in the space!

@mohdfikree

4 жыл бұрын

Oh hai!

YES. thank you for making this video. I have been dreaming of a good solution to this problem!

I have been waiting for this video sooo long! Thank you a lot!

I’ve been WANTING a wireless solution!!! Thanks for the info...I’ll check it out!

Was literally thinking about getting one of these transmitters today! Thanks Caleb!

No doubt, this guy is another one of the most beneficial content creators on KZread and his channel deserves more subscribers. Keep up the fantastic work Caleb.

This was great overall, but minor complaint: For your "low-latency" choices, you suddenly switched from previewing via camera output to using the MixPre-3. Given your past findings testing HDMI monitors and such, it's possible the headphone jack on the camera is adding to latency where the MixPre-3 doesn't? Not sure, just felt a little odd to suddenly switch which output you were using, even if the results are the same. Also the MixPre-3 has BT but doesn't allow monitoring from it. Fail.

Incredible! I was searching for such comparison. Thank you very much!

Just yesterday I was searching for the very same thing. Thanks for doing all the leg work!

Your latency testing setup is awesome. You have gone the extra mile once again for your viewers. Thanks Caleb! -Will

@Video-Connects

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, agree - great setup - hearing is believing

Your videos are just so great! Thanks for all the work you put into this.

It's been over 3 years - we definitely need an updated video on this - unless anyone can suggest something that has come out more recently

Thorough run-through. Thanks, Caleb!

Thank you! I will buy one of them! Was looking for this long time...

Very useful info thanks, Caleb.

Haven't finished watching but I have to say this is a very valuable experiment. It's not just for cameraman, I wear the headphone when playing my digital piano and due to the latency I can't use bluetooth headphones, not that I expect to find a solution in this video but this will help push the industry in the right way.

Timely video for me as I'm in the market for this very thing! Thank you so much for your reviews. You have made my choice much more simple.

Really great companions. Helped a lot and solid work. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

LOVE THIS! I've had Taotronics for years. I use them on set with Avantree headphones, and on my TV to watch GOT without waking the kids!

Thanks fo rthe nice tests on those different solution for wireless audio monitoring

Was looking for a one man shooter monitoring option - nice! Will definitely look some more, but a great review! Well presented.

I suddenly though that the Wireless Mic Go and tested it. It worked perfectly as an wireless monitoring device w minimum latency!

Thanks Caleb, great reviews.

Would love an updated version this!

nice review man, super keen for this tech any little bit of freedom from wires is great and this has saved some dollars doing test so much appreciated

Great video and explanation. I used your link to buy one

Nicely done. Thank you.

Awesome video! Thanks a lot Caleb :D

Awesome information!!

Love the video awesome as always

Love your channel bro! Quality keeps getting better each video. What's the name of that tripod head on your ifootage mini tripod bro ? Anyone know ?

4:24 at 6 frames sounds better than the others at 4 frames and 5 frames... why is that?

Great video! I’m so tired of all the cords so this is perfect! Where can I find the the monopod the camera is sitting on in the video! I love it. Thanks for keeping us on the cutting edge😘

extremely valuabe informations. thank you for doing what u do! thank thank you

Thanks for doing all that research!

Super useful review.

Thank you for the sharing. Great video as usual. And I just wanna share my way to get wireless audio monitoring. I use my Rode Wireless Go as T&R because it’s nearly no delay and connection is pretty good. The best part is that I need no extra expense to get this function as I’ve already owned it. And also I can use all of my lovely monitoring headphone or earphones with it. Hope this helps. Lol

This great! I've been looking one tomconnect to my tascam dr10

I bought a similar rx/tx kit for my C200 a few months ago. So nice, not to have the cable hanging around. Some latency, but for the price, I feel that it’s worth it 😀

Bless the angel that is Caleb for buying all the options for us so we don't have to. I think an update to this video in like 2 years is gunna be great because I feel like more players will be in the game at that point besides avantree.

Really awesome idea, am looking at buying this shortly. Would love to see a video on wireless low latency 4K HDMI!

Thanks a lot for everything you are doing Keep it up

I actually have the final option for watching TV at night and not disturbing the rest of my household. It never crossed my mind to use it got monitoring my audio at weddings. This is a great idea. Also I might add that you can increase the audio on the headphones independently of that mixer which means u get even more juice for monitoring in a noisy situation

THis video saved me money! Thanks

Amazing review, not only for the video shooter community. Keep it up!

Do you re-pack all that stuff and return. It for a refund or throw them in a drawer ? Just curious

@dslrvideoshooter

4 жыл бұрын

holsteincowboy usually sell or give to friends. In this case, I’ll probably covert some old boom boxes and radios to Bluetooth speakers as gifts. Always a big hit!

Another excellent video!

Thank u so much for this video!

Thank you for this. I've been looking for a solution for a while and didn't want to buy a bunch of crap before finding something that really works. (I did that with lav mics.)

Great video! Thanks. I like also the small tripod on the right 😂 can you tell me the model? I am trying to find something small but strong for slider on table

Great video, thanks :) Would love to see a similar test for wireless mic systems (eg. Rode Wireless Go, Comica BoomX-U, etc) Especially since they can also be used as a makeshift wireless headphone link!

I love you so much man! 🔥🤟

may us know, what tripod you are using? the brand and the price

Your Headphones need to support AptX too! Otherwise, its gonna use some old protocols with high delay. Then, a lot of those AptX transmitters wouldve done the job.

Awesome! I'm getting this transmitter set. Caleb, did you do any testing with range/ interference? Or is it a non issue because they are all fairly robust and your expecting line of sight to your audio source? 🤔

Awesome video, you should do a test of a bunch of wireless transmitter/recievers for lav mics for a video that would be so helpful to people!

Keep this rolling! I'm trying to find close to zero set.

A lot of VMOUNT batteries have a usb socket, so some of these options are fine when using bigger rigs. Thanks for the info !

Another great video as always! How did you like the quality of the Evantree BT headphones?

@Germainmedia

4 жыл бұрын

I was wondering the same thing!

Run into this issue just last week. Bought the puck you've recommended. Well earned commission Caleb :-)

@dslrvideoshooter

4 жыл бұрын

fotoworkshop-stuttgart.de thanks man!!!

Thank you man

Nicely done.

Hi and thanks for you great video, since it is 4 years ago, do you have best value recommendation for today?

Thanks man ❤

Great video, I was wondering if the Avantree aptX Low Latency Transmitter and Receiver Set might make a low cost radio mic?

I can see myself going wireless very soon. Nothing is worse than getting tangled in you wiring while you try to run two or three cameras and have jump back and forth between them. One accident very nearly cost me one of my lights b/c the cable got tangled in the (unweighted) light stand. So thank you, thank you, thank you for making this video 🙏 😃❤️

02:40 Latency on monitoring audio for video is not a problem, in fact on some set ups it's actually a feature! it's "called confidence mode", and on old Nagra tape recorders it was a setting that recorders would use, as you could separate the headphone sound from any actual sound creeping in from the real world. [edit] so I watched the rest of the video and latency is the only thing tested here, I guess because it's a quick easy thing to demonstrate. There's no mention of audio quality, range or battery life, which are far more important issues.

Thank you 🙏🏽

Hello Caleb! Great video. Where did you get that short extension plug for your headphones? I'm using an ATH M50x. I plan to buy that 2 round one you recommended using your link. Thanks!

Great video! They do sell wireless headphones and dongles which use the 2.4 ghz wireless signal instead of bluetooth. I found that those have almost no latency and are good for monitoring. But in the end i just went back to wired headphones because its just one less set of devices you have to charge and maintain lol

@dslrvideoshooter

4 жыл бұрын

green tokyo I’ll have to look into those!

Here’s my takeaway: use a cable. Thanks for the tests that proved it for me 🌹

Thanks for this video and all your channel, it's really helpfull. I'm surprised you didn't talk about the AirFly pro, is it because it's not working with Dslr camera? I'm really looking for a solution to connect Airpods to my A7iii but i don't have any idea about the latency. Do you have an advice?

Great review! Thanks for your work on this. Any time you have AtoD DtoA conversions, there will be latency. Then add wireless. Yikes. No way around it. Oh, there is... .... Wires. ;)

Great video!! I think I like the Taotronics one best, for it's size and pretty low latency comparatively, 4 frames is not bad. I also for my own preference, don't like needing the specific headphones option nor the dual puck being it's just one more thing you have to contend with, but the latency of course is really good great review and comparison!!

Great video, is there anyway to use wireless earbuds with a mirrorless camera in 2022?

Thanks for the test, its very usefull. I have another Question, what do you think about Z Cam E2 (mft)? and also E2-S6? Would like to hear your opinion or much better a test from you!

Hey Caleb, great comparison. Very well done. Don't think you've done this yet, but how about a comparison of sd card backup devices, such as the gnarbox, WD My Passport wireless pro, WD my passport wireless ssd, and maybe a raspberry pi 4 version build (I'm considering building one)?

I’ve been wanting to do this! Where did you get the short cable for the audio technica? I believe one end is proprietary to them.

great video

Corridor Crew need to see this!

Thanks! Brilliant! What about the Rode wireless Go hack and latency there ?

nice work.. none of these solutions look "ready for primetime", I'm disappointed we can't go Bluetooth directly camera-to-headphones.. almost more trouble than it's worth! thanks for posting, great info

so useful

Hi there, great options, but I was wondering what's with the interference? Did you test them somewhere else? Thanks in advance for reply!

Amazing fix. August 2020 here wondering if those Avantree pucks are still the top of the line if I want to keep using my Sony headphones, or if there's something new.

This is so exciting! Here's a stupid question but could you use a headphone splitter output from the camera to multiple bluetooth devices to theoretically have a producer and cam operator both listening on their own headphones?

Bravo, great panorama info, and as always non nonsense talking or beating around the bush.

Great! Thanks

great test. do you know about any device, which could receive BT signal from bluetooth mic/headset and transmit it to camara mic input?

It has been 4 years - is there a better option since then? Thanks for all you do.

Would you consider reviewing the Avantree Sky Ace for this purpose? It's a 3.5mm wireless headphone originally designed for flights.

If you’re planning to make a follow up video for this. Please include the dji mic 2 paired with a sony a7 iv.

Try to use a rode wireless go for monitoring audio.