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@brazil_is_a_africa538

2 жыл бұрын

U should react to more wintersun like lonliness where its less harsh vocals

@karljensen6768

2 жыл бұрын

I am simply IMPRESSED over how much you can pay attention to!! Many of these sounds are new to me in a way, mostly because I have a great time with those guys 🥰🥰 You should try take a look on Extreme drummers universe, where Kai is filmed throug the intire song. That is simply mindblowing to see him in such a speed 🥰🥰

@Meuracas

Жыл бұрын

Soooo…when will we see a reaction to Wintersun - Time? d:{D

@janihaavisto79

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, had to check this again. Was reading live chat and laughter so hard on comment that Liz tilts her head like German Sheppard. I can see that.

"The drummer is good too." Understatement of the century 😆

@MrAatami

2 жыл бұрын

Kai is something else

@DrSkeff

2 жыл бұрын

And a real blast beat, when in the past Elizabeth has called any double bass work “blast beat”.

@joefrance9030

2 жыл бұрын

Hahahahaa 😂

@marinedude_06

2 жыл бұрын

He is also the drummer for Nightwish

@MikkoRantalainen

2 жыл бұрын

Kai is drumming the way that would kill the Duracell bunny before the end of first verse!

When you listen to this kind of music you have to remember the role of winter because a lot of this music started in countries where winter is an important factor in the culture and their lives. Nature and winter are violent and cruel yet silent and beautiful. Strong vocals do not always refer to something bad but strong emotions, actions, or events.

@JhelleMies

2 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY ! i was just going to comment this, im from Finland and you nailed perfectly what this song is hintin to audience, its not evil, it sounds like its sang by man who have gone hell and back and now is singin all of hes frustration and emotions in this not song i call this a piece

@anthonynelson1699

2 жыл бұрын

Winter is cold and unforgiving but it’s not personal. That’s what I love about Time. It’s such a brutal album, but never does it feel like it’s a targeted brutality.

@juned_syafitra

2 жыл бұрын

as a tropical equator citizens, i can feel it a little 👍🏻

@northstar2621

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! This is correct. Our environment shapes us and the way we feel and how we act :)

@npanic628

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, Jari's vocals feel exactly like frostbite

Wintersun is going to be the classical music when we are all gone, I'm sure of it.

@filip_548

2 жыл бұрын

IT BETTER BE

@pedjavukmirovic6770

Жыл бұрын

@@filip_548 it will be ....it must be

@cyclesurgerywandsworth1482

Жыл бұрын

find me, and you have a meal and a drink on me!

@MrAatami

Жыл бұрын

@@cyclesurgerywandsworth1482 I will climb over that wall!

@Joemama55122

8 ай бұрын

Symphonic metal will be

This is actually a "motivational" song for you to do your best every day. One major reason why it took so long to release this song was that there were no pc enough with CPU capacity to be able to handle all the backing tracks. Sometimes the have almost like 300 backing tracks. And the mixing also cause he, Jari, is known to be a "perfectionist". Thank you very many!!!!

The Finnish bands have mastered making harsh vocals express things like sorrow, heartbreak, regret, and majesty, instead of anger, evil, and aggression. All very primal emotions. It's visceral, rather than evil.

@narcissus79

Жыл бұрын

hell yeah. Impaled Nazarene is my jam!

@jiajiaoioi

6 ай бұрын

it is because our history, it is full of those things. first germans and their masters tried for thousand years to took our lands, eventually succeeded. after that they oppressed us for the next thousand years and still goes on. they tell us how long winter is the reason for our melancholy, but in reality it is our history. funny how swedes or norwegians (germans) are not melancholy at all even tho they have as long winters as we do. histroy is a lie, and that is why no one ever learns from it.. keep that in mind

@i7887

2 ай бұрын

@@narcissus79 That band is just noise.

@AgustinRodriguez-Bdm

Ай бұрын

​@@i7887 lol no

@i7887

Ай бұрын

@@AgustinRodriguez-Bdm Yeah they are garbage.

Harsh vocals are meant to convey the heightened emotion of whatever's going on. It's not necessarily evil, but it's meant to convey some sort of intense emotion. It can be evil, but it can also be just rage, fear, joy, excitement, whatever. It's USUALLY not joy, but it can be.

@IAmebAdger

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. For me with Jari it often feels like intense desperation.

@1987ishmael

2 жыл бұрын

I'd only add grief, somberness or seriousness to this. Kalmah's Moon of my night is a pretty good example for this. Insomnium has a ton of songs with harsh vocals: While we sleep, Valediction, Bereavement, The Elder, they're all intense, not a drop of evil.

@michalsnaiberg2734

2 жыл бұрын

For joy/excitement I would go to Ensiferum with songs like Two of Spades, Rum Women Victory or maybe even Twilight Tavern.

@karlkoch9324

2 жыл бұрын

This is it

@MrNsparks89

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to comment, but you stated exactly what I was going to say so much more succinctly. Therefore, I like and comment to make sure this gets noticed!

Wintersun is such a gem! I would strongly recommend "Time", from the same recording sessions. Also, if you want to focus on Jari's clean vocals only, you should listen to the acoustic version of "Loneliness (Winter)" from "The Forest Seasons" album.

@jean-marieroy9559

2 жыл бұрын

I second that!

@eugenemitin8611

2 жыл бұрын

I would strongly recommend the debut album which is unrepeatable🤯 absolute masterpiece 🙌😤

@michaelhawes1989

2 жыл бұрын

This

@MrRome32

2 жыл бұрын

a truly masterpiece!

Me: "okay, today I'll sleep early... but before that, just a quick look at KZread, including Elizabeth's channel" **I see Elizabeth made Sons of Winter and Stars reaction video** Me again: "okay, I won't sleep tonight"

Fun fact, the drummer is Kai Hahto, and he's the drummer of Nightwish, and the Bassist, Jukka, is now the session bassist for Nightwish too. Apparently Nightwish is slowly poaching all their members... or perhaps merging... Winterwish? Nightsun? :P :D

@OlettaLiano

2 жыл бұрын

Nightsun would be a perfect name if both bands came together on one stage. With Marko gone, Floor needs a good male vocalist to fill the void.

@Baiko

2 жыл бұрын

Tuomas is stealing the band members one by one.

@OlettaLiano

2 жыл бұрын

@@Baiko I think that's a good thing. Creative people do better with other creative people around them.

@mishulaksis

2 жыл бұрын

Jari would be the only one able to replace Marko vocals...but it's just a dream ... I don't think it will come true. It would be too beautiful to sing with Floor.

@RedBlade187

2 жыл бұрын

@@mishulaksis The world would explode! LOL 🤯

I’m sure Jari would be willing to join you for tea time to discuss his technique.

@wappenschmied

2 жыл бұрын

*Tea Time II

@zanrantasa2033

2 жыл бұрын

@@wappenschmied hahahahhahahaha

@conchosewing

2 жыл бұрын

That would be awesome!

@Metal_Auditor

2 жыл бұрын

I see a bunch of people just found my comment. Are y’all here because of Wintersun’s Facebook posting?

@blarfroer8066

2 жыл бұрын

@@wappenschmied that would probably happen somewhere around 2430.

Even though this hasn't as many likes as many of your other videos, I still think this is one of the best reaction Videos out there, period. Watched it so many times.

I can't tell you how much I appreciate someone of your musical background giving a band like Wintersun a go. I could tell the heaviness and brutality was too much for you at times, but you persevered and critiqued in a way that didn't make me think that you just hated it. It's always nice seeing some introduced to the bands you love. Even if it's outside your normal tastes. I just love listening to your opinions and expertise. Thank you Elizabeth :)

Jari is actually missing about 20% of his lung due to devoloping tuberculosis during his military service, which is why he can seem a little tensed up when singing

@DarkRedman31

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know tuberculosis could damage lungs, it's a first for me.

@jays9869

2 жыл бұрын

@@DarkRedman31 Tuberculosis is a lung disease, in the 1800s, people with it were often called black lung because they would cough up blood a great deal, and it would eventually kill them.

@TheDivineHunger

2 жыл бұрын

@@DarkRedman31 It forms massive necrotic lesions in the lungs, due to the immune system trying to wall the infection off, which patients usually hack up.

@arod131ar

2 жыл бұрын

If you played RD2, Arthur caught TB. Over time you saw him slowly getting more and more ill throughout the game. He was always getting called Black Lung by Micah because he kept coughing a lot.

@BomimoDK

2 жыл бұрын

@@DarkRedman31 Instead of just going "lul wut" i just wanna ask. What made you think that?

I know alot of people will recommend "Time" and "Land of snow and sorrow". But my recommendation from Wintersun will be "Loneliness". The lyric is so emotional because they are about how Jari felt because of the death of his father.. He literally isolated himself for a week to get in the proper state of mind for how he felt during this period of his life to reflect that in his vocals.

@nouhau

2 жыл бұрын

Yes Loneliness is an amazing song that needs all the attention possible!

@JoshuaLenerville

2 жыл бұрын

Oh man how could I forget about Lonliness! I definitely agree with you!

@mariand.1087

2 жыл бұрын

+1 for Loneliness. My fav track from Wintersun

@Ron-ei5eh

2 жыл бұрын

I think the emotion, tone and hurt in Jari's voice is so fitting the theme of the song and the depression of winter that it is briljant. One of the best vocal performances i know, maybe the best!

@zynius

2 жыл бұрын

Loneliness is great, but I think it would get more recommendations if it was a studio session or a live recording as opposed to a lyric video.

Favorite moments from Elizabeth: just when the metal band moves from a quiet part to "metal" sound. This is metal and I love Elizabeth for her spontaneous reactions.

I receive Jari's vocals more as breaking free, powerful, strong and wild than opressive. But I have been listening to harsh vocals for about 15 years

@sonia417

Жыл бұрын

Well said

Ooooof, great song. Next of that studio album recording is "Time", please do that one too.

SHE DID IT!!!!

@TheCharismaticVoice

2 жыл бұрын

I DID IT!!!

@Ragnarob666

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheCharismaticVoice 🤣🤣❤️

@MB-co6qj

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheCharismaticVoice this was EPIC!! My parents werent happy that I used this as my alarm at 7 am in High School times 😂

@senditkevin

2 жыл бұрын

@@MB-co6qj haha. Wish I knew about these guys in high school. Would have been my ringtone!

"The mixing must be a nightmare..." It was. That's why it took so damn long to be released. All the guitar and drum work was complete. Jari spent 5 years mixing the symphony.

Wintersun might be one of the best bands of all time. Certainly, Yari is one of the best composers

We need no only more Wintersun reactions but also a tea Time interview with Jari. You know Elizabeth? Nightwish drummer and new bassist are playing in this band. Choose Time for next Wintersun reaction.

@Lleanlleawrg

2 жыл бұрын

Time is good, but I'd prefer something off the first album, for example Sadness and Hate

Jari’s body language isn’t traditional when singing because he is missing part of a lung.

@truckrboat

2 жыл бұрын

Contracted Tuburculosis while serving in the military, makes all of that power even more impressive

@fox4488

2 жыл бұрын

Dang, definitely need to do a tea time with Jari

@joelwatkins

2 жыл бұрын

@@fox4488 he was drinking green/lemon tea between vocals when I saw Wintersun live with Arch Enemy

@antoniopinelo6243

2 жыл бұрын

Amazing fact

@nigeldepledge3790

2 жыл бұрын

Green tea is totally metal!

Being front row seeing this song performed live was probably the single best experience of my life. Getting to shake hands with these guys after was surreal as well, absolutely love this song.

His harsh vokals have become soothing to me. It portrays so much will, longing, disappointment and desire all inn one its crazy. Love his voice.

Finally, our beautiful Elizabeth will listen to the Finnish metal Gods

@KillDozer44

2 жыл бұрын

dont focus on her looks she gets triggered

@Atavist89

2 жыл бұрын

Simp

@DM-rc4yu

2 жыл бұрын

@@KillDozer44 First world problems

@tonyv.8781

2 жыл бұрын

She needs to do Amorphis.

@DGSAVOID

2 жыл бұрын

@@KillDozer44 whats the problem. Shes good at what she does and shes an attractive woman. Which makes watching the channel even more pleasing....nothing wrong or sexist. I do like Galaxticriminal but Orlando Bloom is way more pretty to look at 🤣

You will love the song "Loneliness" by Wintersun. You can see the emotion on Jaris voice and more clean vocals. To me, one of the best songs ever made.

@kimmorintamaki4422

2 жыл бұрын

Whole Forest Seasons album is the experience. End of autumn song to Winter song is so crushing.

@mpmr10

2 жыл бұрын

@@kimmorintamaki4422 In my opinion you should listen to the whole album. Different songs in it changing are like changing a page while reading a book, or maeby more like chapter, and just like a book, you have to read all the pages to fully understand it!

@Trevor21230

2 жыл бұрын

I think Loneliness is a super underrated song. It so perfectly captures the feeling of chronic depression. At least it does for the depression that I felt at my lowest point in college. "The weight of the world quietly crushed the dying light" is *such* a great line for describing my own depression. P.S. I'm doing much better now; that was like 10 years ago.

@AdolfoSalinasP

2 жыл бұрын

The acoustic version Of it

The answer to the question "how many layer does this track have" is: YES :D

@DarkRedman31

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was 42

Your commenting, reactions, and expressions are exactly why I’m a subscriber. No one can deny your passion for music and that is something your audience can feel

"Time" and "Land Of Snow And Sorrow" probably have the better vocal melodies. Maybe we'll get to them too.

@frasler1

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this song is killer too, but 'Time' would be better from a vocals perspective.

@JasperSchwinghammer

2 жыл бұрын

@@frasler1 well this has some more vocals from Jukka and Teemu and with the Acapella part has something that I am looking forward to.

@frasler1

2 жыл бұрын

@@JasperSchwinghammer Yeah, no doubt. This song is excellent and I'm very excited for the analysis.

@kikomarty4337

2 жыл бұрын

The 'Land Of Snow And Sorrow' isolated vocals are amazing.

@elbacalao146

2 жыл бұрын

"Loneliness" too

I would have never guess in 100 years that this band would be on this channel. I discovered them in 2013 and been a fan since

@geazzz

2 жыл бұрын

my same thought :P

@DarthWinterMadness

2 жыл бұрын

I don't remember the exact year I discovered them, it was around 2007 when I was in my last high school years for sure. Anyways, I became immediately a fan after the short piece Beyond The Dark Sun. Such a great band! I wish they could produce more material faster. Cheers from France! 🍻

14:25 "THAT MAN CAN CHANNEL ENERGY!!!THAT´S VERY, VERYIMPRESSIVE!!!" Love this sentence :D Well Wizards can do that. I think Jari is the (young) Gandalf of Metal :-)

Your take on the amount of sound nailed it Elizabeth. I've been a fan of Wintersun since the first album. The second came out like 8 years later. Jari used to work alone, layering and layering tracks. That's how they accumulated their unique feel. But when this album hit he decided to take the band on the road and even stopped playing live guitar to focus on his vocals. He has surrounded himself with virtuoso talents too.

Kai Hahto is one of the greatest drummers alive today!!!! 💥🥁💥

Yes, Finnish Amorphis has pleasing and soothing harsh vocals when needed. Their singer's growls are a force of nature and cleans are really velvety. Please listen to their Brother and Sister. There you will hear soothing growls bc you hear nature in them. And the song is really good. As anything else from them.

@LornWandrr

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! I alwaus found well rounded low growls soothing. Amorphis, Septic Flesh, Opeth, Moonspell, Mourning Beloveth.

@imokin86

2 жыл бұрын

I would also mention bands whose songs are about subjects like space and philosophy. Vintersorg, Obscura, Stortregn, Belakor. Their music doesn't concentrate on darkness and evil, and the use of growls is less about aggression and more about conveying ideas that are beyond the ordinary scale, larger than life.

@LeonBlackbird

2 жыл бұрын

To me, the harsh vocals are soothing mostly because I can take all the bad stuff from my life, scream them, and just leave the good. I see it more therapeutically than just screams for the sake of screaming.

@LornWandrr

2 жыл бұрын

@@imokin86 Dude, haven't heard anybody mention Vintersorg in AGES! Have a good one

@juholaaksonen7455

2 жыл бұрын

Absolute 100% agreed!

You really need to listen Insomnium! "While we sleep" or new songs like "The Conjurer". I'd say those guys nailed some pleasing and longing harsh vocals.

@gdforerunner5303

2 жыл бұрын

i love their song daughter of the moon. amazing vocals

@andreaszweili8593

2 жыл бұрын

Wanted to suggest Insomnium as well for a band with growling that is pleasing to listen to. I actually listen to them often when going to bed.

@Adeenolol

2 жыл бұрын

i would also say Collapsing Words and heart like a grave too

@jackbower7732

2 жыл бұрын

While we sleep is a master piece

@DarkRedman31

2 жыл бұрын

Yes while we sleep and Through the Shadows too! ♥

"Neat" x) Been Wintersun fan for years but this song really hit me when one winter night I was walking back home after few drinks and the night sky was FULL of stars! I could see my breath and it was very cold night too with tons of snow on the trees.. As it happens, I'm from Finland like the band is as well..

Charismatic Voice: Slowly Becoming a Metalhead. Personal note, I saw these guys live years ago and had a blast singing along to this song. 😜

@TheCharismaticVoice

2 жыл бұрын

#spoiledbymetal

@lonestarlaw8624

2 жыл бұрын

I love it. Seems like Nightwish’s “Phantom of the Opera” was her gateway drug.

@nessiferum6200

Ай бұрын

Late to the party I know, when I saw Wintersun years ago in a tiny venue I got so overcome with emotion during this song that I cried my eyes out, and then again during 'Time'. I don't know where it came from and was a bit embarrassed but I looked around and I wasn't the only one, we sang our hearts out! 😂💖

Try "Loneliness (Winter)" by them, it shows a bit more of Jari's vocal capabilities imo. It's also emotional as hell. He's amazing.

@dgvalentssunlightstudiodv264

2 жыл бұрын

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@janihaavisto79

2 жыл бұрын

My condolences Kirk, it seems u just lost Liz to Wintersun band music. You will be missed. Haha. 🎶

@jimmyhassel1908

2 жыл бұрын

Due to tuberculosis Jari lost 25% of his lung capacity which makes you respect those screams and pitches he achieves. Love your channel btw

@slashmacleod

2 жыл бұрын

Elizabeth with Jari Maenpaa tea time....the world needs this.

Hi Elizabeth, this is my first time listening to Wintersun and I enjoyed this performance. Jari is a great composer/lead vocalist/guitarist, and his transition from growls to clean vocals was flawless. And Kai was a relentless drummer. The backing vocals-choir/orchestra were also amazing on this masterpiece. Thank you, Elizabeth!!! 💙

Watching you gradually become more of a metalhead over time is a truly joyful experience - Melodic and Progressive death metal like Wintersun is so great and I'm happy you're listening to and appreciating it :)

@senditkevin

2 жыл бұрын

I have never thought of Wintersun as melodic death metal before, because to me they have a lot of power metal in their sound especially with all of the orchestration layers. But I guess the harsh vocals could put them in a melodeath category.

@sirsancti5504

2 жыл бұрын

I will only be happy if someday we get a review on "Cast Down the Herectic" by Nile. But I'd be happy with "Gateways" or "Progenies (...)" by Dimmu Borgir. Realistically, an analysis of Rush's "Tom Sawyer" would also be excellent.

It's so nice to have someone with real musical training confirm that, as I thought, Wintersun is stupidly complex! I was scrolling through the comments to see if anyone mentioned it, but as far as I know, Jari writes all the lyrics and music, which just amazes me. Also, on the first album, he played every instrument except drums!

Hi, I've just found your channel and it's really amazing to see someone outside of the world of heavy music digging it so much as you!!! I love it. As a kid I went to classical music school and played cello; really hated it but I've finished first level of musical education and it gave me somehow deeper understanding of what is happening in a piece like that. Later I've got into playing guitar and thanks to that I've started to really have fun with music and discover new stuff. There are more or less complex songs in metal, but this one, despite how cheesy it is (epic melodeath/power metal, very clean, sterile 'nordic' prodution, heroic motives) is really one of the greatest compositions in this subgenre and probably best one Wintersun have ever made. Vocals are one thing but the guitarwork is really sick on this one, there are so many complex riffs with buildups and evolving structure - for example the lead melody (6:05) have 3 similiar repeats but the 4th phrase is crazy, with syncopation and it leads to the break. Then the same story repeats with high lead starting with regular structure at 14:13 and with advenced structure, beginning with sweep arppegio at 14:50 - it's not even a solo, it's just crazy lead melody that leads to so called "Jaris killer riff" at 15:05. Amount of syncopation and evolving accentuation in this riff is - as you said - hard to comprehend. Of course - there are some repetetive fragments, but overall amount of progressivnes, difficulty and endurance needed to play this is astounding. Even more fun fact is that they played this live in one take durring this session. PS: there is an insede joke about wintersun albums, that they take so much time to make, because boys don't have enough RAM needed for mixing all the VST plugins. PS 2: This song is really amazing during winter, when you go for a night walk to the park with headphones on, everything is covered with thick snow.. I guess they went for the exact feeling you mentioned at 26:48. Kind greetings from Poland, keep up your amazing work!:)

Wintersun - Loneliss, please do it, I've been planning to request it has ben awhile, but didn't find a song that could fit with the request, what a perfect opportunity, is less heavier, much more sentimental and has some awesome vocals, I'll keep an eye hoping for it, love your reactions, very entertaining

@kimmorintamaki4422

2 жыл бұрын

Yep Jari Mäenpää don't do ballads. But if he do, whole world will cry.

@Jairon_Junior

2 жыл бұрын

@@kimmorintamaki4422 Definitely, that song goes right to the feelings haha

@sylwia5595

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! One of the most beautiful ballads ever written imo

Check out his earlier band, Ensiferum. You'd probably dig "Lai Lai Hei" the best. It's very folky and very metaly.

@MarcelVos

2 жыл бұрын

She might enjoy Cry For The Earth Bounds as well. It's harsh vocals are very emotional.

@Eric998765

2 жыл бұрын

I've been listening to both bands for at least a decade maybe longer and never knew they were from the same guy.

@d.columbia9603

2 жыл бұрын

I love take of revenge from Ensiferum

@IAmebAdger

2 жыл бұрын

While I love Lai Lai Hei probably in my top 5 of all Ensiferum songs, it's not one I necessarily want to see analysed from a vocal perspective.

@DarkTemplaroo7

2 жыл бұрын

I would love to see some Ensiferum on this channel. Iron would be a blast.

The singer Jari is a big Devin fan, I think you can tell from the 'wall of sound' :)

harsh vocals are cathartic to me; they express both my repressed rage & sadness; and they show me someone else understands my suffering

Who's gonna mention that Jari is missing 1/4th of his lungs? Also the only kind of harsh vocals that are similar too soothing would be stuff like the band Insomnium, where they're more melodic and the vocals are more mellow.

@nmnate

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Insomnium is a great recommendation for less intense harsh vocals. Totally a different feeling (and a great one IMO).

@scrapingyines5428

2 жыл бұрын

Specifically their track Heart Like a Grave might be a good starting place; I don't know if it's vocally varied enough to justify a reaction video, but it's a great example of a piece in which the harsh vocals express a more subdued and melancholic feeling (aided by the overall thematics of the song). Another Finnish band, incidentally; a band which sounds quite different from Wintersun, but draws from some of the same emotional and lyrical themes (as do many in or peripheral to the Finnish melodeath scene).

@Exiletheheretic

2 жыл бұрын

"While we sleep" would be good place to start. Only down side is that it has lot of reactions already.

@pete_lind

2 жыл бұрын

Correction more like 1/5 , lungs are not symmetrical , you have 3 parts one one side and 2 on other .

@Rondigity92

2 жыл бұрын

I find wintersun vocals to be quite soothing

After a while you get to stop seeing growled vocals as 'evil', and more as... an extension of the range of emotions the vocallist can use to portray what they need to

I swear, no music has more presence than Wintersun, at least in my experience. Classical and Opera music of course have so much more presence than your usual song, but Wintersun really manages to blow even that out the water, its such a shame that they aren't as well known as maybe they ought to be.

Alright, if you're willing to do a 14 minute epic song on this show, I beg of you: 'And Then There Was Silence' by Blind Guardian. The story of the Trojan War in one track. It's incredible.

@littledreamer42

2 жыл бұрын

For real, Hansi has such an incredible voice! I'd love to hear Elizabeth react to him. And the layers of vocals in And Then There Was Silence is outstanding, plus the vastly different musical themes throughout. I do think there are songs that showcase Hansi a little better, like The Eldar or Mirror, Mirror especially since she's such a nerd I think Nightfall In Middle Earth should be right up her alley. But ATTWS is one of my all-time favorite songs!

@metalgrinch

2 жыл бұрын

YES!!!! AMAZING TRACK!!

@MrMetallization

2 жыл бұрын

@@littledreamer42 I love Hanis's performance in "The Eldar", one of his best for sure.

@gratiano_sig

2 жыл бұрын

Please this!!!

@luxtobeyou

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely seconding this one

I hope this means Amorphis is next! (Ask Tank the Tech!)

@TankTheTech

2 жыл бұрын

Tank approved.

@FullNelsonsBird

2 жыл бұрын

„Can harsh vocals be soothing?“ I immediately thought of The Bee by Amorphis😉

@petersilver4281

2 жыл бұрын

​@@TankTheTech Was just thinking about something: I'm pretty sure you two don't know Eternal Tears of Sorrow. They have a great ballad called "The River Flows Frozen" with both a "normal" (metal, growling) and acoustic versions - both are emotional and beautiful. You could synchronize and do a collaboration where each does one of the versions and maybe compare? Eternal Tears Of Sorrow - The River Flows Frozen kzread.info/dash/bejne/eKCl1JKQabeZcps.html Eternal Tears Of Sorrow - The River Flows Frozen (Acoustic) kzread.info/dash/bejne/kXmNpplwo87MpNY.html

@senditkevin

2 жыл бұрын

@@TankTheTech Ah I knew you'd be in the comments somewhere and finally found you (not creepy at all lol). I've been listening to Wintersun for about 2 years now and am still picking out new parts in this song. Are we going to get anymore Wintersun reactions from you? If so I'll suggest Starchild. It was from their first self-titled album in 2005 I think.

WHAT WINTERSUN!!! I'M SO EXCITED HECK YEAH

"I want to read papers (x3)...about functionality of harsh vocals in metal." Also, first time hearing this band and that drummer is incredible!

@Darkwrath93

2 жыл бұрын

The drummer is Kai Hahto. He also plays in Nightwish now

@Cerebatonify

2 жыл бұрын

The drummer is Kai Hahto, he's a straight up legendary in Finnish metal circles, if you're fine with grindcore or just want to see him go ham, check out Rotten Sound (Exit and before).

If you're interested in hearing more of Jari's clean vocals I would recommend analyzing the song Loneliness (Winter). I think it's a great showcase for his clean vocals. For that the album version if probably the best bet.

Wintersun: We Make Better Music During Rehearsals Than Most Bands Can Aspire To On Their Best Day -- Yes, please react to Time next, as it's arguably more epic than this masterpiece.

@oglschmitt

2 жыл бұрын

I think SOWAS is more epic but Time is more soulful. Both are awesome tracks and I hope Elizabeth gives Time a shot. There was something this dude said . . . "Alloys have to Exist" . . . no. "Ingots Should Be Present". No. Wait . . . METAL MUST BE!!! 🤘

@luisnunes2010

2 жыл бұрын

Above all, Wintersun, our background synths alone sound better than any pop song whole.

@oglschmitt

2 жыл бұрын

@@luisnunes2010 Wintersun: By the time we finish recording, two dozen bands have formed, released albums, and completed their first tour!

@luisnunes2010

2 жыл бұрын

@@oglschmitt So far, in the time Helloween wrote, recorded and published a studio album of new songs, Wintersun has not finished a live album. Really, how much fiddling do you need to do on a LIVE album, ffs. Not that I'm impatient or disapointed or anything... 😏😴

@alanclarke8117

2 жыл бұрын

I think these rehearsal session prove that no one poaches talent better than Tuomas Holopainen

I see we're aiming for the new pause record this week!

@TheCharismaticVoice

2 жыл бұрын

Oh my goodness. This video is 45 minutes long. I don't think it breaks the record, but it's close!

@Allhopeforhumanity

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheCharismaticVoice Absolutely the proper length for such an epic song, and a great way to end the week!

@luisnunes2010

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheCharismaticVoice Time spent listening to Wintersun is never wasted, it's the time between albums that may be trying to one's patience. 😴😴😴🔥🎸

@GustafB

2 жыл бұрын

Shorter than expected 🙂

@Andy_from_de

2 жыл бұрын

@@GustafB #spoiledbymetal

You know, ive listened to this song maybe 1000 times, Wintersun being my favorite band. But i have NEVER heard that voice wayyyyyy in the background that you pointed out near the beginning. It is there, there is a lovely voice! This is why I love what you do E 🥰, thank you once again!

"So much sound." And when you internalize it, it's so beautiful.

"Embrace the STAAARRSSSSS!" Can't wait to see this reaction, amazing song. Its finally happening!!

@Ulluroo

2 жыл бұрын

Bro, it gets me every time.

It takes a lot of courage for an opera singer to listen a long track like this and find the positive part. Even for me, it is not easy on a first listening! Great job!

14:21 Well that's because "The energy flows in him like a river of stars"

The first time I saw Wintersun was at their first ever show in the USA (I believe) in Tempe, AZ. It was perfect weather facing east during a full moon at an outdoor venue. This song always brings me back to that day. What a great reaction and analysis! Cheers!

You'd probably be happy to know that the drummer AND bassist in this are now in Nightwish, the drummer full time, and the bassist as a session, as unfortunately Marko left the band earlier this year.

@Helgimar1980

2 жыл бұрын

So glad to hear about the bassist. When I heard about Marko my first thought was "they should get someone from Wintersun"

@ZombieJesus1987

2 жыл бұрын

@@Helgimar1980 Haha, yeah that was my first thought as well. not like they're doing much these days lol

Yessss I love Wintersun! More beautiful songs from them: "Time" and "Loneliness - Winter". It's funny that I've never really thought of his harsh vocals as evil, they're just pretty damn cool hahah :)

The best analysis I have ever heard for this song. Congratulations, you are the best.🥰

One of the original prime motivators for harsh vocals was to make sure the music would never ever become mainstream and commercialised, and OH did it work 👌 Underground bands were kinda sick of the corporate world getting their grubby and cheapening hands on their music. Apart from loving your professional input (I learn a lot from your analysis), I love your reaction and your open mind. Your adorable physical reactions are more or less representative of my internal reaction when I hear this music. Love it! This song is a freaking masterpiece and deserves waaaaay more acclaim!! I listen to it at least twice a day! 😁🤘

I saw these guys in San Diego a few years back. Most amazing show I’ve ever seen, hands down!

@juholaaksonen7455

2 жыл бұрын

They sure are incredible live 👍

Wintersun in summer time - can't get any better 👍

I love this. I feel your reactions to Sons of Winter and Stars are pretty much everyone's reaction. It's so grand and it builds up in this beautiful choir saying that we are part of the universe, no matter how cold the winter is, the fire burns in our hearts and won't be extinguished. It goes from dusk to dawn or winter to spring in 14 amazing minutes. Maybe one day i'll be able to sing that at recitals xD. Been a fan of Wintersun since the beginning, and a fan of Jari back in his Ensiferum days. To me this is pleasing harsh vocals. I love this band and Jari's writing and composting. The last chorus has been my ringtone (i don't hear it much because my phone is always on vibrate) since Time came out. I love it, i love that many metal vocalists came together to record it, Wintersun and Jari, because he's adorable and so funny, are such gems and deserve so much more recognition.

Love Wintersun, one of my favorite bands... Those guys are soooo underrated.

Amorphis - The Bee is so epic song that have best epic harsh vocals and (same)singer do clean ones too so good! That is one you don´t want miss!

@DarkTemplaroo7

2 жыл бұрын

Jari is not on any of that album.

@atides33

2 жыл бұрын

@@DarkTemplaroo7 Amorphis is a different band from Wintersun, that is why Jari is not in it.

@marianpereira5106

2 жыл бұрын

Nightwish sucks

@mrslucifer92

2 жыл бұрын

Yeeeess!! Such a good song!

@eugenemitin8611

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, can’t wait to see a reaction to Amorphis - one of the favorite bands! 🔥🌪

The Mozart of Metal, way to go! He composed everything and is a multi instrumental genius 👌🏽

I think Jari might be up for some Tea Time (II)

I never thought I'd sit down and watch a 45-minute reaction video all the way through, but here I am

It would be great if she also did Time after Sons of Winter and Stars, I think Time is vocally better.

@BijouLeclerc

2 жыл бұрын

Agree

@ThelSuperlKing

2 жыл бұрын

Vocally better? How much better? Does he sing like a heavenly angel in that one? *wink wink*

@knoxville2202

2 жыл бұрын

The whole session should be done

I've been hoping you'd do this song. This is going to be good

I didn't expect to see Wintersun, very happily surprised. Now I'm waiting for Cradle of Filth - Her Ghost in the Fog.

@samlovesjojo

2 жыл бұрын

Did you just bring in hot topic metal into a wintersun video...

Yes, the more you listen to harsh vocals the more you’re able to pick out frequencies and peculiarities. When I initially started to listen to music containing it I only could associate it with evil or dark emotions. The first thing that began to differentiate itself from purely evil feelings was anger, and I began to notice that some harsh vocals sounded less sinister and more “pissed off”, like the singer was expressing catharsis. Eventually I started to pick up when vocals conveyed sadness as well - the underlying instrumental really also clues you in. Burzum and Insomnium are “sad” vocals, a lot of metal core and hardcore (As I lay Dying or Hatebreed ) sounds angry to me, and Behemoth or Nightbringer sound purely evil. All harsh vocals are highly emotional though, I don’t think I’ve ever come across “chill” harsh vocals, even if the underlying instrumental is even bright or not in a minor key ( ie Deafheaven or Alcest). Listening to harsh vocals does feel to me like a skill though, that is built over time. I do think you should space out your exposure to music with a lot of extreme vocals for a while tho, I would hate to see burnout occur, and your wheelhouse does seem more suited to deep analysis of melodic singing styles, which is why I watch the channel. I don’t love shocking people with absurd heavy vocals, I appreciate when people enjoy what they’re reacting to. I really appreciate the channel, and love the insight you bring to vocal performance, it’s fascinating for someone like me who knows little about the technique and theory of singing professionally.

Besides all the other stuff about this song, this was a bravura performance by Kai Hahto, who is now the drummer of Nightwish!

Check out the acoustic version of “Loneliness” by Wintersun. I know how much you like acoustic.

@kleckson5489

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, this one is so emotional as well!

@Kaunispeto_

2 жыл бұрын

such an amazing song! (and one I can actually sing :D, damn you Jari!) In the song, it's like you can hear the snow falling down! as a Finn, I love listen to it while trying to get to work through the snow

A symphonic metal masterpiece.

It wears me out just to listen - I live in awe that these guys could play more than one gig a year at this level of intensity.

@thor498

2 жыл бұрын

They play a full 2 hour set no pause... they are insanely skilled

Just been listening to this in the car for about the 100th time....... every time I hear something new in it :)

@ravenwda007

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve had two people ask me what band when I blast it in my car stereo

Oh, this will be FUN to watch... The song "Time" is another great song but IMHO the musicianship on this song is just at another level entirely. For example the guitar parts are 1:55 in the original video are the stuff of shred nightmares - cleanly picked triplets across multiple strings with 5 and 6 fret stretches at a crazy fast BPM. Yikes!

I think that I can safely say, that the guys would love your reactions, and your excitement by their performance...Rock On little sista ! 🤘🤘🤘🤘

Harsh vocals can denote pain, struggle, change, chaos.... Determination, seeking justice, righting what was wrong, courage, protecting the weak, challenging and overcoming oppression. Many "serene" vocals can become stagnant, harsh vocals denote becoming the change. If you struggle to see harsh vocals as anything but negative, think of it like the deepest notes of an organ, the grandness, the majesty can be denoted through serenity only after it is reached its apex, the journey to the apex, though is what harsh vocals can denote. Not really my beliefs but there is a band out there called "becoming the archetype" the have some songs denoting the grandness and majesty of god with harsh vocals. Their song "self-existent" is the account of the apostle Peter describing how he saw Christ die with harsh vocals defining by sorrow and then harsh vocals used differently as his mind and emotions were in turmoil as he was shaken to his core seeing Christ risen and his mind, heart, and emotions at odds with each other, then finally harsh vocals defining the majesty of his savior with underpinnings of more serene vocals denoting a harmonious victory through pain.

@erikgutierrez3613

Жыл бұрын

Love this!

Ah wintersun. Never ever expected this lol! Listen to them a long time ago, Beyond the dark sun is an absolute classic by them. Also Ensiferum was amazing when Yari was the lead, Into Battle for example. And if you are getting into melodic death metal, Insomnium is an absolute must listen!

@kimmorintamaki4422

2 жыл бұрын

Into the battle and lailaihei is my favourite ensiferum songs.

@mindtraveller100

2 жыл бұрын

Insomnium is very good, but she absolutely has to react to Dark Tranquility!!!

Wintersun has become my new favorite band, and I didn’t even like growling before I heard Jari doing it (Floor helped also), so I’ve been hoping you would get to this for a long time. Please check out “Time” soon from the same rehearsal session. I think it’s even better. Unfortunately I have a few meetings tomorrow morning, so I’ll probably miss the premiere, but I’ll definitely catch the video on my lunch break.

@Metal_Auditor

2 жыл бұрын

I think I might be able to catch the premier, but it'll be on my work computer, so I won't be able to join the live chat.

Wintersun is my favorite band and the one that inspires me the most when I write my own music, always fun to see those reaction vids! Also in my opinion Jari is one of the best singers, period. He can sing powerfully really high plus he has the cleanest growl I ever heard!

I love your videos and watching you discover bands and music I already know. It's just like re-discovering them all over again through your ears. I'm also learning a lot about the structures of Music and Vocal Techniques thanks to you. And you're very cute too, charming :) Music brings out emotions out of me, deep, emotional and so pure and raw, like nothing else can. I really think anyone who delves into metal with an open mind just cannot help falling in love with it. There's something for everyone in Metal. I'm 55 and I was exposed to Sabbath when I was 6 by a bunch of cool uncles. I can't thank them enough. Metal is part of me now and forever.

For me lyrics sounds like story of Finnish people. Sons of winter and stars we definetely has winter and stars. We game far beyond Time. I live in Finland nearby a historical landmark with rock paintings from 5000 BC. And since Jari is finnish it easy for me to think he has used Finnish history and mytology as inspiration to this Song.

Not Evil, just an intensely honest representation of cosmic energy...

I listened to this album a thousand times when my mother died in 2017. I will never forget the music

I think that the contrast of harsh vocals really works with the beautiful melodies of other instruments and I honestly think harsh vocals can sound beautiful when accompanied with these beautiful sounds! Not evil at all but just beautiful in its own way.

Yes! Finally! I asked for this song a long time ago and I'm super exited to hear Elizabeth's take on Jari. Right now it's so damn hot in Sweden I'm longing for some Finnish winter. :) I guess this is the next best thing.

Wintersun - The Death And The Healing.. for cleaner vocals throughout the song

@Son_Daughter_of_Slaanesh

2 жыл бұрын

Yes please!

@NA-oe5jj

2 жыл бұрын

My favorite song

@despicable6545

2 жыл бұрын

My favourite song of all time

@eugenemitin8611

2 жыл бұрын

Oh damn yes!! First album is an absolute mind blowing masterpiece, after 10 years of listening I’m still impressed and still can hear something new in there every time. Never fading emotions 🔥🌪❄️🌫

Idea...Apocalyptica's "Bittersweet" with Ville and Lauri.

@MissieK

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely would love to listen to her opinion about Ville's abilities even though that song does not showcase them all. But that is a treasure.

I know this is a bit late, but talking about soothing harsh vocals: Tomi Joutsen (Amorphis). Man I love his voice, he has nice clean vocals but his growls are something else, so deep and dark, yet I find them also really relaxing. I'd recommend live versions of Amorphis' "The Bee", "Majestic Beast", "Black Winter Day" and "Bad Blood", I think those are some of the songs that really show what he can do. There are also songs that have only clean vocals ("House of Sleep", "From the Heaven of My Heart") and only harsh vocals ("Sign From the North Side")

@kvltizt

Жыл бұрын

and he can hold a note like no other

@fannyl6881

9 ай бұрын

And I'm late too but Amorphis really is the band that first got me to appreaciate growls. They even felt beautiful to me. And relaxing, as you say.