All I can say as a IT Support guy since 2007, is that till Windows 8/8.1 appeared with Defender built in, I was doing 3-4 malware cleans/rebuilds a week. Since then with 10 and 11, it's now 3-4 a year and most of those are just adware or a sanity check to delete a legit remote app off a laptop some guy from India made them install. I actually get more 'virus' calls from Apple users now. Unchecky is a handy little tool for keeping stuff clean.

@saint3106

6 ай бұрын

Unchecky rules.

@kingiument4627

5 ай бұрын

Thats the funny thing apple is about to have a ton of virus issues and security breaches because theyre being forced to support sideloading and any unauthorized apps. Apple has pretty much no antivirus they just cock block you from doing things to get viruses which hurts everyone.

@Stelomat

5 ай бұрын

im in the Business 23 years now and i see it similar. since win 7 it got alot better 10/11 different worlds. So anybody can hate microsoft but they actually seem to tackle those kind of problems now.

@TriMarko

5 ай бұрын

Yep same, I work in a SOC and Defender is now the main antivirus used on windows devices. Way back when it used to be Sophos or Mcafee that was installed on every device, but not anymore

@TheOzzyOzan

5 ай бұрын

@jabezhane what tool can you recommend we use to scan our system monthly?

Imagine being infected with 100 different viruses and your inmune system blocks 99% of it, that is how powerfull windows defender is becoming.

@MiesvanderLippe

6 ай бұрын

That’s why it is important to click on links in phishing mails etc. This will help maintain the immunity of the system.

@ferdinand.keller

6 ай бұрын

I don’t believe in Windows Defender, in my time people used to get viruses and everyone was okay with it. Windows Defender is the thing that kills your computer. I don’t want their program full of microchips on my computer.

@JC-Alan

6 ай бұрын

@@MiesvanderLippelol

@w1z4rd9

6 ай бұрын

Only if you opt-in diagnostics.

@EmiWi

5 ай бұрын

@@MiesvanderLippe It's more like cloud immunity, if someone else got infected then the entire system is immune. If anything it's like getting infected and never fully recovering from the damage.

It's Amazing to see how windows defender became better overtime.. someday it might become so perfect so that we don't have to look for an alternate antivirus anymore

@mwaurelius1

7 ай бұрын

And, on that day, pigs will fly

@XVIravenIVX

7 ай бұрын

On that day it will become a paid product. It will be a required add-on for your cloud desktop. So even you can browse the Internet for $49.99 a month *internet service not provided* *cloud desktop internet add-on required as well*

@Sciophobia1

7 ай бұрын

Agreed! Then there is also the fact there are third party tools that make it even better, more configurable, and harder to bypass like DefenderUI. Still no SentinelOne or PA Cortex competitor, but not bad at all for the normal consumer esp when coupled with third party tools!

@evilleader1991

7 ай бұрын

I love Kaspersky, it doesnt use a lot of resources, has excellent detection of virus/malware, protects me from visiting shady websites, gives me a secure way to pay when doing online shopping, notifies me when an app uses microphone/webcam and also has VPN. Best bang for the buck imo

@sebastiangonzales46

7 ай бұрын

Its a cat and mouse game, Viruses will also get better then Defender will adjust

Would like to see you do the included Windows Defender vs the Paid Microsoft Defender version that is now available with O365 vs something like Malwarebytes across a larger sample base, should be interesting.

@Peytonwatson14

7 ай бұрын

Very interesting. I would love to see this

@beaujeste

7 ай бұрын

I was actually wondering if this was Windows Security (free w/ Windows) or Microsoft Defender (w/ Microsoft 365 subscription). As I understand it, there’s no such thing as Windows Defender any more-Microsoft’s product names are very confusing, same with the Surface line-up!

@Peytonwatson14

7 ай бұрын

@@beaujeste I didn’t know that. So I’m not really sure

@J_KM654

7 ай бұрын

@@beaujeste Judging by 3:52, I assume that it is Windows Security, not the paid Microsoft Defender. But I too am curious to see what difference there is between the two.

@Joolian.r

6 ай бұрын

There is now defender for endpoint which is 1 of the paid options, they also have Microsoft Sentinel and also defender for o365. I might be missing one other

I really like this kind of videos. It gives a clear understanding of why is it so important to have cybersecurity.

@xBintu

Ай бұрын

it shows why it's important to act secure rather than trust an antivirus which tries to make up for your mistakes ...

I’m glad you did this test. You’re right there’s a lot of guys on Reddit who have a lot of opinions, but never seen tests of what Windows Defender can do.

What I like about Windows Defender on Windows 10 and 11, is you don't have to do anything! It goes to work, keeps its mouth shut, runs in the background, only alerts you when needed, and doesn't slow down your PC. If you are carful online, Windows Defender is all that you need. Additionally all the modern brosers have smart screen and download scanning built in, so that really helps!

@nicholasneyhart396

5 ай бұрын

I do also use malwarebytes, but that is mostly as an ad block.

AT LAST .... the channel returned to its originalform(*antivirus Vs malware tests) ,which was the main reason for me being subscribed in the first place !!

This is the first time I have come across your channel. I "liked" and 'Subscribed" and I do not subscribe to very many channels. I just want to make sure I don't lose track of this channel. Beautiful presentation. I like that you "show your work" instead of just talking about, makes it much more credible and believable. 🙂

Just after fiber connection I installed a Tz 470 SonicWALL then I run defender on all machines on the other side of the SonicWALL in-house which gives better protection than Malwarebytes did installed independently on each computer. Haven't had one problem since installation of these above mentioned items. Thanks for the review you guys are great!

Thank you for doing these types of videos. I generally don’t leave comments, but I do value your opinion and your testing. I have always ran a third-party antivirus program such as bit defender, and even that has failed me over the years with info stealers a few years ago I got hit with an info stealer, and just like you said I lost my KZread channel took me a long time to get it back

Frankly it really is great to see windows defender doing better over the years. With supply chain issues becoming a greater concern with 3rd party software solutions, having good first party support for viruses, etc is good.

The detections were in line with what I expected! Windows defender is so good nowadays and the important thing is that it is not heavy on the system.

I would also add if you are using Office 365, it comes with Microsoft 365 Defender, which is a unified enterprise defense suite with advanced capabilities. For example, it proactively hunts for threats, has identity threat protection, dark web monitoring, prevents cross-domain attacks, etc.

Great content! You guys should make a whole series testing all the antivirus on the market like this I’m curious on how my bitfender would hold up and I bet a lot of people are wondering the same about the antivirus they use.

Appreciate your time and sharing the results of this test.

would like to see a full Windows Defender vs. Ransomware/Malware and everything in between. but not in a VM but in a real system with HVCI.

@raylopez99

7 ай бұрын

A lot of work and what's the difference? Unless the experiment is to see if there's any difference.

@MGK195

7 ай бұрын

@@raylopez99 because hvci does not work in a VM but is the only real security feature difference between a stock w10 and w11 installation.l

@imranhq13

7 ай бұрын

​@@MGK195what is hvci?

@Sciophobia1

7 ай бұрын

This is the big question, modern ransomware strains are very effective at bypassing unmanaged Defender and it would be interesting to see if this is the case on the up-to-date version on Windows 11.

@MGK195

7 ай бұрын

@@imranhq13 "Hypervisor-Protected Code Integrity (HVCI) is a Windows security feature that uses virtualization to isolate the Code Integrity (CI) decision-making function from the rest of the Windows operating system. This makes it more difficult for attackers to tamper with the CI function and load malicious code into the kernel." and exactly this does not work in his tests since he's already is inside a VM.

didn't expect these results, windows defender is truly improving!

@FreeRobux712

6 ай бұрын

the only thing that is improving is your obesity.

Great video, very informative! I am not an IT guy or a big computer guy, but I have never trusted windows defender to actually protect my computer, and came into this video not expecting much. But I am glad to see it is actually getting better, I am definitely going to stick with current anti-malware suite, but maybe with my next computer (if defender continues to improve), I won't feel the need to replace it!

THANKS FOR SHARING! Hjghly needed this as I am currently considering to use defender instead of third party anti-malware.

Yessss, would love to see video's comparing the popular AV's.

Great video. Really appreciate seeing some testing I can point people to. I agree base defender absolutely fine for the average user. Enterprises environments should have an XDR solution.

A new day with a new upload from The PC Security Channel is another day of happyness fr

I remember how I absolutely hated Defender for being "always in the background" and eating RAM when I first moved from W7 to W10" But over time, I've grown quite glad for it being there - And even more so watching this video

Id love an in-depth video about Microsoft Defender for Endpoint, even running this test. Its the Enterprise AV/EDR available with Microsoft 365. We use SentinelOne where I work, but im considering a greater push to move to using it, since its included with our 365 licences. Im too busy right now doing some practical tests with Entra ID Plan 2 so I cant test it myself right now.

Fun fact (00:30): In 2013, the latest version of Windows was Windows 8, which already featured Windows Defender. WD was initially released as a standalone application for Windows XP in 2006 before being directly integrated within the release of Windows Vista

I have just used Windows Defender for the past few years. Defender had gotten much better recently and I'm not sure if it is worth the price and memory usage of premium AV.

I'm really liking defender more and more. Considering I am a sole infrastructure engineer and the business is wanting to use bitdefender mainly, i think potentially having the both of these helps alot from a cloud protection and local.

@marcuspvxea

7 ай бұрын

As someone who spent years using bit defender, you have tons of better alternatives. It actually were worse at handling viruses than Defender have been for me

@michaelbearden9036

5 ай бұрын

As someone who uses Bitdefender daily, I hope you never need to.

@blackoutgstar9949

5 ай бұрын

well your job title sounds good anyone knows you can't run 2 different anti-virus one will shut the other off your company needs a new infrastructure engineer if you don't know that

@ridley674

5 ай бұрын

@@blackoutgstar9949 you obviously haven't experienced the real life from behind a keyboard, so I'll let that slide and hope you the best in a sad life of negativity.

@hunterzone4846

5 ай бұрын

@@ridley674 No he's right. Running multiple AVs will cause system instability and will diminish security. TPSC did a video on it.

Que buen video. Algo que tenía curiosidad pero jamás lo hubiera intentado en mi PC

He’s a great videos, very interesting, informative and fun to watch. If I had a need I would definitely hire this company.

This evolution totally passed me by. So thanks for enlightening me.

Very insightful, ty for sharing this experiment

I didn't notice any mention or testing of an additional Windows Defender feature known as Windows Defender offline that's now available in scan options. It has the ability to scan the system before the OS loads in the Windows 7 days it required the use of a bootable thumb drive.

Great video! Thanks for posting!

We have been using Heimdal at our company for a while now, and we really love it :)

Good to see much improved detection rate of MS Defender. On the other hand they (Micro$) want to control you more and more. I use Kaspersky Total Security - NOT the new Plus version which pops up all sorts of things I am annoyed with. Also use Malwarebytes, though Kaspersky complains as not compatible. Oh yeah Windows is running virtualized. My choice of backup is Acronis.

I completely forgot about XP's endless pop-up screens, good times lol! I remember once i really tried to close them all for like 10 minutes but it was popping up and up so i began preparations for a format))

I am using Defender only barring the occassional manual scan with MWB but even then 90 % is not 100 %, even if the missed threats weren't major and no malware processes were running. I'd kind of want to see a follow up of trying to run the threats Defender missed one-by-one, did Defender just miss them due to the overload of malware being ran at the same time or does it simpy omit those instances. Defender relies on cloud analysing yeah but even then I'd want to see it work more like "this process is on hold until it is considerd safe" instead of "there are so many processes trying to run that some might slip through". Also MWB being smart enough to determine the threats were being run by a script and terminate the script itself is quite impressive to me, exactly what you'd want from your AV.

Amazing video I was always wandering if windows defender is good.. btw any views on panda antivirus?

Would be interesting to see the results with Windows running in S mode. Its just about possible to do everything most users would want to do under S mode, and malware likely wouldn't stand a chance.

I love Malwarebytes, I've been using them in my personal environment for years. At work, we only run Windows Defender (it's free). I'm perfectly happy with the security it provides,

You so need to make a series out of this with others besides defender

Very insightful thank you 🙏

Thank you for video and your effort. Could you test the OpenEDR product please?

Hi, thanks for your excellent video! While reviewing this one, I wondered why should I renew my Kaspersky subscription. If windows defender is acceptable, why should we go for a payable antivirus Thanks for your opinion on this matter

TBH I've had so many problems with third party antivirus software breaking things like Windows updates or false-positive blocks (like once the windows logon service got blocked) that I just run Defender now.

I would like to see you do this on multiple anti-maleate programs.... Can you try AVG next time?? I wish yo would have also tested Defenfer with the cloud turned off....just for the "Smiles and Giggles factor".

When you mentioned the like and suscribe, did you choose to have the button highlight? Is that a thing? Because on my pc it just hightlighted it when you said that

Thank you so much , I've started using anti-virus software in 2016 and still was using it until i saw your video thank uuu

Very interesting, can you try the browser apps plugins to see how good they protect ?

I would like to see a Linux distribution under the same circumstances. A random Linux distribution and user vs. 100 malware sites.

Its become so much better than it was back in Windows Vista/7 days, go to a few questionable sites/download from questionable sources back then and you used to be screwed, nowadays no issues at all with any kind of malware/virus. With that said, I've had issues every once in a while where it wouldn't allow me to save files in Documents folder.

Cool info, thanks for sharing, well done :)

This is great, we need more of this

interesting video as always many thanks I'm all ways looking for ways to spot and remove viruses besides just hoping my antivirus's will solve the issue

Hey Leo, just wondering, what would you recommend as a free antivirus?

I have a question about the malware you've used, does it have Anti VM / Anti Debugger enabled? or is this an off topic question, and if it does have these types of protection doesn't that make the detections semi broken due to the virus self killing itself before defender caught on?

Thx for for doing this video, still i have a question. How about iobit systemcare and malware fighter?

It's nice to see how Windows Defender became so much better because i really don't want to download any third-party anti virus cuz some anti virus takes to much memory

I'm pleasantly surprised to see that Defender is performing much better than it used to. Still, I won't be switching my dependencies for security from Kaspersky anytime soon! LOL. Thanks for the update, however. ^_^

Do you have a video of how you have this special set up so it won't attack your home network. Considering that you are running this on a virtual machine, do you use this computer on its own for virus testing or do you also use it for personal use? I would like to run some forensics on my own set up so I can make sure that I'm as secure as possible.

thanks for posting!

Curious about running it behind a netgear armor enabled router with the bitdefender companion installed. Might have to do similar testing

Tip for next video - please dont block the process explorer - it's nice to see what is happening in real time to executables.

I don't even use Windows anymore I only use Linux but this channel is still interesting enough that I subbed regardless lol

Thank you for doing these tests. Could we possibly have a review of HP Wolf Security ? This now comes preinstalled on most laptops manufactured by HP and works alongside Windows Defender.

@anita.b

5 ай бұрын

bruh that's crazy

Could you test Avast ONE again ;) Would be nice.. Keep it up

I'd like to see that same test versus Microsft Defender and Defender for Endpoint as part of the M365/O365 security offerings

A potential gap in your analysis: is Malwarebytes blocking threats as the links themselves are known to be threats or is it blocking based on scan and behaviour of the files? I can't quite say as no idea what your script does but likely downloads first..

I want to see more from Malwarebytes, since its smart enough to detect an active attack vector. Also how its performing if web is unviable ...

Sacrificial frozen state VM's are amazing for testing whether or not something is sketchy. you can run anything on them and the moment you reboot its clean. just make sure its not on your primary vlan..

Can you do bulletproof west vs top 100 most powerful weapons next?

Could you please do ESET test someday?

Great Stress-Test and good to know and see Windows Defender's performance evolution overtime. How about scripting random websites visits in a 24hr period and see how Windows Defender, and the competition, perform, on an average Jack & Jill PC? ¯\_⚆◡⚆_/¯

Windows defender might be the most powerful antivirus on the market right now, assuming that you have enabled cloud analysis and the automatic sample submission, it's incredibly aggressive and is quick on the uptake when facing new/unknown malware.

Could you do a comparison with Microsoft Defender for Endpoint?

Impressive results, better than i expected for windows defender.

Thank you for all you do

Interesting. I assume Bitdefender or Kaspersky particularly are a bit better of course. Thanks for the tests.

I would love to see a stock windows defender, versus a maximum hardened defender, vs the paid version, all up against MalwareBytes.

would it be easier/better or at least interesting at all to just run that python script (or slightly modified) to slam them all on a usb drive that you then rig to be executed upon plugging it in, or just for extra security in testing, executed via some other script on it?

Quite like how good Defender is. Many more people who are less tech savvy are going to be more protected. It feels like it's getting closer to how secure mobiles currently are, which should be a standard across operating systems. So I guess we might see more zero-day exploits in Windows

@derAtze

5 ай бұрын

Its a big illusion that mobiles are safe

For us non-discord users and generally entry-level 'enthausiasts', would you be interested in (re)making a how-to on general IT protection? Mainly aimed at singular PC systems, but perhaps adding to that with a router-based stuff. I was thinking of three levels: entry level / basic, intermediate and hardcore. Where the entry level would be like: vpn, additional malware and virus protection, browser protection, etc.). And intermediate and hardcore could include more extensive and intesive actions, such as router changes or additions, VM ware, the Crowdsec thing you mentioned, etc. (don't know any better examples, as I'm not that knowledgeable on these topics). I find it fairly difficult to harvest trustworthy and/or useful recommendations on this subject, where the level of explanation doesn't exceed the 'beginner' level of understanding.

@strongforce8466

7 ай бұрын

What do you mean non discord users?! Is discord not safe 🤔

@fv538

7 ай бұрын

@@strongforce8466 No idea. I count myself under the group of people who just don't use discord. No particular reason why, besides never having had the need to. However, I can imagine security being an issue as well. But I just dislike the use of 'proprietary' programs (it's not really, but it's not as accessible as using a web-based platform, accessible via webbrowsers). Especially for forum- and knowledge database-type purposes.

Amazing that they know all these malware sites and they haven't destroyed and removed them strange world

Great video, proves the point that Windows Defender is definitely capable antivirus for an average user. Of course, Malwarebytes is still ahead and in case of an actual infection it's one of the best programs to run, but I don't think it's necessary to use it on a daily basis.

As someone that just built their first pc is defender the recommended go to these days or should I get something like Malwarebytes too?

I can't be the only one that remembers Windows defender coming out with windows 2007 (more than 10 years ago)

I realize this video is 5 months old and possibly there is an answer in the comments or in another video but I haven't seen one yet, is there a comparison between Defender and Defender for Endpoint via 365?

Question . Do we need to run windows ramsonware protection on ? It IS giving me a Lot of bsod blocking even AMD programs

I was impressed by the detection. It still holds true that Defender still slows down the system a lot more than competitors and is heavily reliant on legacy signatures, but it is nice to see MS finally made it a more effective product protection-wise. If folks want to use it, definitely use it with the free tool DefenderUI, as that will prevent malware from disabling Defender.

@WolfySnowy

7 ай бұрын

Does it? I haven't seen more on this topic. Any resource you can direct me toward?

@mrjaked420

7 ай бұрын

strong disagree. I had Bitdefender and that shit Killed a hard Drive the default is Low af.

@shanks7704

6 ай бұрын

killed a hard drive wdym?@@mrjaked420

@shanks7704

6 ай бұрын

i have it@@mrjaked420

@Nahg345

6 ай бұрын

Defender uses significantly less system resources than 3rd party AV.

I would definitely like to see bigger test. Or performance impact of different antiviruses. Or even for gaming.

@la7dfa

7 ай бұрын

I will watch your video when you make it...

I would like to see you make an seriously infected system to operational again without installing new windows and using your skillets . If it is possible

I remember circa 2002 or 2003, if you installed windows 2000 and did not install a blaster patch BEFORE connecting to the internet your computer, without any interaction from your side, would IMMEDIATELY be infected with the Blaster worm. If you've been building PCs as long as I have, this progress from Microsoft is very impressive indeed.

For UEFI malware infection validation don't you need to reboot and then run the tests? Or was that done?

happy to see how far it has come from the xp days

I would love to see how windows defender vs an adblocker like ublock origin with all blocksites added. I have just been using adblocker for years and never have malware since.

Is a good confirmation for me. I saw the improvement of windows defender across years.

Windows defender + malwarebytes + he's browser extension = perfection

Hi Leo, I see you're supporting WD at the very least giving it some love. What everyone has to remember is that you are the security and that AV is just a tool and you use and demonstrate are only tools and we are only as good in ways we use those tools. So it's necessary to keep learning as changes come and go and to stay on top of threats and evolve as everything evolves. Always looking for new ways to combat this assault it's a constant struggle protecting our information and financial privacy.

I don't know sometime Windows defender not help or malwarebytes My friend got hacked week ago likely download some exe I tried to give him malwarebytes but doesn't log anything Like is the virus is in you or it is hard to find it is like info stealer Can you teach us how to find the virus that hides through security programs?