Window Condensation Part 3 : Between the panes of glass

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Paddy's DIY - Window Condensation Part 3 : Between the panes of glass
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This video is the 3rd of three, about three types of condensation that forms on windows and doors.
In this video I’m going to be talking about condensation that forms between the panes of glass in double and triple glazing.
When a double glazed unit is being made up. The two panes of glass are glued onto a hollow spacer bar. You will see this as a silver or sometimes black bar in your windows. The spacer bar is partially filled with a silica desiccant. The desiccant is more or less the same as those little packs of silica beads you get in the box when you buy a new pair of shoes. This desiccant removes the moisture from the air that is now trapped between the two panes of glass. If this desiccant wan't here the moisture that is in the air that is trapped between the two panes would condense and cause a fog on the inside of the glass.
Over years the poly sulfide glue that sticks the two panes of glass onto the spacer bar can let in outside air. Like in this double glazed unit, you can see the small gap where the glass is coming away from the spacer bar. When this happens air and moisture now enters between the two panes.
The desiccant can only absorb so much moisture, and when it gets to the point that it can't absorb anymore moisture it forms between the panes of glass. This depends on the outside temperature. In general, during hot weather, the moisture between the two panes of glass evaporates, and can look like the condensation is gone, only to then condense when the temperature drops. It's this cycle of evaporation and condensation that leaves the unsightly staining between the panes. The staining usually coincides with the amount of moisture that is getting in between the two panes, and can be really bad like this double glazed unit here.
Unfortunately, when the seal has broken down the only real solution is to replace the double glazed unit. I've seen some videos on KZread of guys drilling a hole in one of the panes of glass and washing the stains out. Another taking the double glazed unit apart cleaning the glass, replacing the desiccant and re-gluing the glass back on. I can't imagine how doing either would be better or cheaper than getting a brand new double glazed unit made and fitted.
Anyway, that's all from me, don't forget to give a thumbs up and hit the subscribe button. Thanks for Watching

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  • @PaddysDiy
    @PaddysDiy Жыл бұрын

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  • @liadekesthler3399
    @liadekesthler33993 жыл бұрын

    This was very informative and clear. It wasn't the answer I was hoping for, but it helped non the less.

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment

  • @DLeighWifey
    @DLeighWifey Жыл бұрын

    I was hoping there was an easy fix but now I understand why there isn't. Thanks for taking the time to make this and explain what's going on.

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped 👍

  • Жыл бұрын

    there's no easy fix, but these guys are professional, they don't want to share easy fixes. Try to find the source of the leakage, normally downward, and fill it with some waterproof filler, then use a hair dryer

  • @MortimerCat77
    @MortimerCat774 жыл бұрын

    I was searching for a solution for my dirty windows and I just knew I was going to see another "Replace the lot" video. But this one was actually useful, explaining and demonstrating how the problem occurs. At least I now understand why I am having to replace the lot rather that just taking the word of the window salesman.

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the comment, someone who actually understood the point of the video.

  • @bp7144

    @bp7144

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PaddysDiy t

  • Жыл бұрын

    The best solution is to replace, but you can have temporary fixes. Try to find the source of the leakage, normally outside downwards, and fill it with some waterproof filler, drill some small holes on top from inside and then use a hair dryer from inside to evaporate the fog. This just works if you could effectively stop water from coming inside.

  • @inspiralistvonscheidt7884
    @inspiralistvonscheidt78844 жыл бұрын

    Thumbs up to the honest answer, if not to the (inexistent) DIY solution. Thank you.

  • @esanchezp
    @esanchezp3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your demonstration. Now I understand why it happens. Also, your sincere solution is appreciated even though it's the most expensive.

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your comment. A lot of people seem to missing the point of the video

  • @dcalhoun1974
    @dcalhoun19744 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for giving an honest answer on this issue. I have see other videos that, like you said, show someone drilling holes in the glass and using a chemical to clean out the moisture, and seal the holes. I trust your evaluation that this cannot fix the issue, it seemed too good to be true. I am going to replace my 12 year old double pane glass in my doors that have this issue.

  • @marktindal2186
    @marktindal21863 жыл бұрын

    This is EXACTLY my problem and such a shame to have to replace. Thanks for this. Well explained.

  • @HektorBandimar

    @HektorBandimar

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mine too, I have the exact same problem of staining between the glass.

  • @jesserawson898
    @jesserawson8986 ай бұрын

    I used to make IGU's on a small scale many years ago when double glazing was essentially taking off. All I can say is that it is perfectly possible to re-do the units provided it is approached in a professional manner. Split the unit apart into two pieces of glass. Reclaim the spacer bars and empty out desicant or buy new pieces and cut them to length. Fill spacer bars with new desicant and assemble into a "picture frame". Thoroughly clean both pieces of glass on the sides that are to be inside the completed unit Attach spacer bar assembly to one pane of glass appropriately set in from the edge of the glass Lower 2nd piece of glass onto spacer bar and align Lightly clamp or tape assembly together to prevent glass/spacer bar movement. Fill the gap between sheets of glass up to the level of the edges of the glass with sealant Allow sealant to fully cure, (several hours). Reglaze window with repaired unit. You will need something to fill the hole in the wall that used to be a window while you carry out repairs You will need to purchase new desicant, new spacer bar if original cannot be reclaimed. You will need a flat area to lay down the prepared unit while you fill the edge with sealant and allow the sealant to cure. The sealant will likely be two part polysulphide rather than hot melt (not silicone sealant). Of all the chores, cleaning the glass will likely be the most difficult. It will be mortifying to be installing your nice re-assembled unit into the window frame only to notice a smear or some dirt inside the unit that cannot be dealt with. Good luck ! ! ! ! Properly done the unit will be as good as a purchased new unit. No one said it would be easy, but it is doeable

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    6 ай бұрын

    Never said it wasn't possible to do. I said i would be surprised if someone was providing a service of reconditioning old units. The amount of time involved to recondition a unit far outweighs the cost of replacing with a new one. If there is anyone providing such a service, they either don't value their time or have no concept of running a business. Because what you describe is FAR from an easy diy job. You are experienced doing it, so it would be a lot quicker for you, but still a slow job. From my experience, the vast majority of people don't even know how to remove a unit from a window / door, let alone undertake reconditioning a unit. For people who have plenty of time and have a good level of skill, it is totally possible as you outlined. But for 99.9% of people, it's not an option. The point of the video is to show the reason why they break down, and to show that there is no quick fix.

  • @vivalaleta
    @vivalaleta4 жыл бұрын

    It behooves us to try as much as possible to fix something as expensive as a window.

  • @kyre11-v6t
    @kyre11-v6t4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for explaining it, it now makes sense to change the windows👍

  • @ella9574

    @ella9574

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, now I know....

  • @guyintheshado
    @guyintheshado Жыл бұрын

    Honest, Informational and To the point; Thank you!

  • @Zomby_Woof
    @Zomby_Woof4 жыл бұрын

    I'm not seeing the difficulty in removing/cleaning/replacing. I'll grant you, if your labor is worth anything at all, it's not cost effective. But I'm mostly retired, and would rather putter than go do a couple of hours at what I normally do to pay to replace the window. Just looked at my problem window again - looks to be a tri lobe rubber seal. I know those can be a bit of a pain to seat, but it's not that bad. Off to find a guide somewhere.

  • @IBKNW
    @IBKNW3 жыл бұрын

    thanks for your prof advice. makes sense for sure

  • @hazelhowden9461
    @hazelhowden94612 жыл бұрын

    Just seen another use leaf blower to dry moisture out of window go inside then use hairdryer then use a sealent round edges but don't cork it like other sealent a year later windows still going good

  • @leowrestler
    @leowrestler2 жыл бұрын

    very well explained and thank you for posting!

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cheers

  • @dGanger
    @dGanger2 жыл бұрын

    Ah man... I was looking for a miracle cure.. great vid and to the point. Makes perfect sense. Thanks

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped 👍

  • @OldSal-d8h
    @OldSal-d8h2 жыл бұрын

    I learned things from your videos. Unfortunately you told me that I’ll have to replace my dbl glaze because of heavy staining. These are sliding doors here in Chicago. I’ll life with it for now because it’s not in the budget. Cheers and peace

  • @amandabelaire3
    @amandabelaire3 Жыл бұрын

    I saw those videos, too. And I'm glad I found this one because drilling holes and such seemed like it would cause more problems than fix. So the answer is they're old and need to be replaced. A pity, but I'd rather know that than wreck something trying to do it myself. Thanks!

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment

  • @redskinswizards3

    @redskinswizards3

    Жыл бұрын

    Drilling a hole would be much cheaper. They blow it out with an air compressor. Then you can caulk the holes back. It will definitely prolong you having to buy a new one

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@redskinswizards3 🙄 nah man you sould fill it up with water and put a few goldfish in it. Diy aquarium

  • @kaitlandoherty8191
    @kaitlandoherty81914 жыл бұрын

    nooooo i was so excited to see if i could clean it :( i had no idea it was on the inside. my apartment complex will never give me new windows :,(

  • @user-lf9gu3ij8h

    @user-lf9gu3ij8h

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ditto! Was hoping for some solution besides replacement

  • @AbsurdlyAwkward
    @AbsurdlyAwkward3 жыл бұрын

    I have this on the doubble glazing in my council flat and they won't replace the windows. The best I could do as some form of solution was find the damaged parts of the sealent and reseal it, it doesn't remove the condensation but it stops it getting any worse. Thankfully it's not as bad for the age of them as some of the examples youve shown here.

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's unfortunate. Wish there was a cheap easy solution for you

  • @paulharris858
    @paulharris8584 жыл бұрын

    Its called cost, buying double glazing isn't cheap.

  • @2027Judah
    @2027Judah2 жыл бұрын

    thanks for your help

  • @paulwright6671
    @paulwright66714 жыл бұрын

    Very useful

  • @adrianvillarreal3703
    @adrianvillarreal37033 жыл бұрын

    Great video man. Straight to the point👍🏼

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment

  • @MM-tn3gc
    @MM-tn3gc4 жыл бұрын

    Great information. I am just wondering when there's water in between window pane, will that caused mold to grow around the window area? Thank you

  • @m0zz4re11a1

    @m0zz4re11a1

    4 жыл бұрын

    i don’t think so because my window has been like that for ages and has no mold or anything gross

  • @TemptressTeelia

    @TemptressTeelia

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes it does for us. If the window pane is wood, like ours. Ours has got black mold on the inside. The panes are also rotting away

  • @alidi4144

    @alidi4144

    2 жыл бұрын

    Only if its wood

  • @mrzif0013
    @mrzif0013 Жыл бұрын

    JUST THE INFO I NEEDED.

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped 👍

  • @RedPillTrades
    @RedPillTrades Жыл бұрын

    Great video but sad for my wallet, thanks for ACTUALLY answering these questions! Nice one

  • @MM2009
    @MM20095 ай бұрын

    cut through the sealant as shown, take it apart, clean old sealant, remove and dry desiccant in the oven. reassemble, seal with PU glass sealer leaving two holes one at the top and one at th ebottom bottom. refill with argon, use cigarette lighter as a gauge, seal holes and you have saved yourself a lot of money

  • @bhupensolanki2501
    @bhupensolanki25013 жыл бұрын

    Good information

  • @frantana9892
    @frantana9892 Жыл бұрын

    Anyone know the video where they replaced the desiccants. Thx in advanced yall

  • @fzall1457
    @fzall1457 Жыл бұрын

    If the joints can be resealed and using high setting heat gun, wouldn't this solution work? I'm definitely going to try this approach.

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    Жыл бұрын

    If you have the time to do it my friend give it a try. Couldn't tell you if desiccant will dry out and be usable again. Give it a go

  • @leftblank6036
    @leftblank60362 жыл бұрын

    The only thing I can think of is to use a heat gun from the outside? it wont remove stains, but perhaps it can evaporate the water ?

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    2 жыл бұрын

    The sun will warm up the moist air and it will evaporate. The reason why it fogs up and looks wet between the two panes, is because the evaporated moisture can't get back out and re-condenses when it gets cold. So unless you keep the temperature all the time above the dew point it won't work I'm afraid.

  • @leftblank6036

    @leftblank6036

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PaddysDiy damn just had a physics lesson 😢

  • @user-mi9cs5iv9q
    @user-mi9cs5iv9q6 ай бұрын

    I solved the problem of condensation between the glass sheets. in my case, it's 23°C at home and -5°C outside, and of course the condensation appeared between the glass sheets. I took a roll of food foil (plastic), tore it and made plugs from the foil. with these plugs I plugged all the ventilation holes on the profile (outside) and inside the joinery frame (as you open the window on the frame, there are two ventilation holes at the top and two at the bottom). after a maximum of 12 hours, the water remaining between the glass sheets has disappeared. I must also specify the fact that I was lucky that the water between the glass sheets was clean so that once the water disappeared, there were no traces or traces of dust or mud as the case may be. if the condensation combines with dust or earth particles, then after drying, dust could remain. translate with google translate. good luck. Maxy from Romania

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the comment, my friend and I'm glad you solved your problem. But i don't think what you're describing is the same as the double glazing we have in Ireland and the UK

  • @patterdalezipsuzilil
    @patterdalezipsuzilil3 жыл бұрын

    I have jusg drilled 2 12mm holes in oposit corners inside i thknk th juice they use is ispanol alcohol

  • @alanaward2761

    @alanaward2761

    3 жыл бұрын

    Has it worked? I was planning to do this too. Thanks

  • @robbanks1686
    @robbanks16862 жыл бұрын

    Cool thanks

  • @rubennilsson5416
    @rubennilsson5416Ай бұрын

    If time is not of value you can repair.

  • @vivalaleta
    @vivalaleta4 жыл бұрын

    641 window manufacturers liked this video.

  • @bentarbuck6161
    @bentarbuck61612 жыл бұрын

    i wad advised to blast the windows with a hairdryer, is this ultimately pointless then and any water will just resettle? i've not long bought my house so ive no real idea how old the windows are but i do know theyre prior to a new standard i forget the name of

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm afraid it'll just condense again when it gets cold.

  • @bentarbuck6161

    @bentarbuck6161

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PaddysDiy Thank you

  • @brianhardern273
    @brianhardern2733 жыл бұрын

    Do you think if someone breaks your window glass the insurance company will replace the complete window

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    3 жыл бұрын

    No they won't. They'll pay to replace the broken glass

  • @simonblunden2151
    @simonblunden21513 жыл бұрын

    Informative video. Shit. Now I have to buy a whole new window unit :(

  • @happyoutdoorsireland6787
    @happyoutdoorsireland67872 жыл бұрын

    Hi Paddy, can't seem to find your website. Is it still running? Or has the company changed name?

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    2 жыл бұрын

    windowanddoorparts.ie is closed down, I'm afraid

  • @JRoRosiak
    @JRoRosiak4 жыл бұрын

    "Tumbs Up" on buying a new window... WTF was the point of this vid?!?

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Would you go buy a new car if you got a flat tire? Why would you buy a whole new window when you could replace the section that needs replacing. The point of the video is to explain to people what the cause of the condensation.. Read some of the comments, people think that it can just be cleaned.

  • @20bob04

    @20bob04

    4 жыл бұрын

    Window and Door Parts Ireland ok Karen

  • @philsandford4596

    @philsandford4596

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@PaddysDiy Yes exactly, thanks for posting this as I'd always wondered if it was possible to fix my old windows but can now see that would be a waste of money, half of the hinges are damaged anyway, so new windows in lovely french gray one day :-)

  • @olegat
    @olegat2 жыл бұрын

    I don’t understand why you can’t remove the window and then glue it back. Am I missing something obvious? If the glass is still in good condition then why do I need to replace it?

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    2 жыл бұрын

    i guess I'll have to make a video explaining why

  • @rtel123
    @rtel12312 күн бұрын

    This problem will continue everywhere until the greedy manufacturers stop making them to fail, forcing you to buy new. The cause is obvious. The failures are on the hot sunny sides of the house. The units are made in a comfortable working temperature factory. When in the hot sun, the air expansion is massive, and will eventually blow out a weak spot in the glue. Then at night, there is a vacuum created and cold damp air is sucked in. After many repeats, the moisture condenses on the glass. There are two ways they can prevent this. One, is to glue the unit together in a hot chamber, so that later on, the unit is mostly under slight vacuum, pulling the glue together, rather than forcing it apart. The hot sun cannot create such a high pressure anymore. The other way is to put a tiny one-way check valve in the spacer, so that the first time the sun raises the temp and pressure, the valve releases the pressure, and from then on, most of the time there will be a slight vacuum, as described above.

  • @theobserver9131
    @theobserver91312 жыл бұрын

    I thought the space between the windows was filled with some sort of gas that can't hold moisture.

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    2 жыл бұрын

    No just air in most cases. Argon gas in newer windows. Its the desiccant in the spacer bar that absorbs the moisture

  • @theobserver9131

    @theobserver9131

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PaddysDiy Thanks.

  • @markc1844
    @markc18442 жыл бұрын

    Although your video is very informative, and to the point - the issue for most of us mere mortals is the companies ive dealt with have both told me i need new windows complete! They will not just replace the glazing units & seals! The one was the company who we bought the windows off originally! I had forgotten but my wife picked it up when she saw the paperwork!

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    2 жыл бұрын

    You have 2 scenarios. Either your going to the wrong companies, who are just trying to sell you new windows or you are going to the right companies who are being honest with you and telling you your money would have better value spent on new windows. You need to determine yourself whether its worthwhile to replace the glazing or the whole windows. Is all or nearly all your double glazing fogged up? How old are the windows? Are they energy efficient? Some of the things to consider

  • @markc1844

    @markc1844

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PaddysDiy Thanks for your reply, I think it was the wrong company trying to sell us new windows, Neither one even took ay trims out or anything to look. 8 Years Old our windows are, we have a large glass supplier near us and i went there, the chap i saw was soooo different to the 2 window firms, He said they could make the units up for me to instal, and they would be filled with Argon (They make all the glazing for local Window Companies) & they could deliver. He also had the same of a glazier who would be able to do it and replace the black seals too! So I called him and hes replacing the glass in the big bay window which is 2 big units and 5 of the other smaller windows for £570!! We are delighted, glass on order and he will have a big tip!

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@markc1844 That's great to hear. Sounds like a very reasonable price too. Happy days

  • @tinaknutsen

    @tinaknutsen

    Жыл бұрын

    Mark C; Just curious how they turned out and after a year how are they holding up? Thinking of replacing our old bay patio cover 5 double panes. I have 4 true seasons, just cleaned yesterday (no rain….they looked better but between the glass is uglier than what shows in the video. Hope you see this message as I’m curious to if your happy with replacing yours and if the company suggested any maintenance tips to keep this from reoccurring???

  • @markc1844

    @markc1844

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tinaknutsen Hello Tina, we did find a company to replace our sealed units & seals in the end! The companies that tell you you need whole new windows are talking a load of Bull! The glazed units are a separate item to the window, they can be made for any size. Ours were complicated somewhat in the fact the trims had been siliconed in due to our burglary , however they done a great job. The new units were clearer and keep the heat in better than the older units. I was going to replace them myself, however decided to have it done, as they also took all the old glass away. There is no maintenance really, rubber is bonded to glass to make the units, glass and rubber expands when it gets warm, therefore failure in many years is inevitable. Any other questions please don't be afraid to help, regards Mark.

  • @mfasiu
    @mfasiu Жыл бұрын

    Bitter truth

  • @huverdoose
    @huverdoose2 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately, I live in a state where the government interferes to the extent it is actually cheaper to not fully replace them.

  • @mikesells4027
    @mikesells40274 жыл бұрын

    so ... it cant be fixed ? !!

  • @msmventures799

    @msmventures799

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly

  • @georgechristoforou991
    @georgechristoforou9912 жыл бұрын

    I got this from within a few weeks of new double glazing

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    2 жыл бұрын

    Contact the company that fitted them. They'll be under warranty

  • @georgechristoforou991

    @georgechristoforou991

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PaddysDiy Well in warm weather patches disappear. When he came out the mist disappeared but when the cold weather came the mist was back.

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @George Christoforou that's how it starts. Go back to whoever fitted them. They will be under warranty

  • @Fizzy786
    @Fizzy7863 жыл бұрын

    Can you advise rough cost to replace one of these panes? I have 5 panes in my bay window and all have misted up. I don’t want to get ripped off.

  • @lindahickerson4658

    @lindahickerson4658

    3 жыл бұрын

    He's never going to answer. It's a hell of lot more than it's worth. I plan to reseal mine because it's just grunt work and not worth the tens of thousands a crooked glass company will charge. I'll learn along the way or fail, but I'll try. Suggest you do the same.

  • @markc1844

    @markc1844

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lindahickerson4658 I couldnt agree more! Our pvc is in great condition, we had two companies out both said we needed new windows complete! Rip Off Britain! Im doing mine this weekend & may actually even produce a video to help others!

  • @TheLiverpoolDelta
    @TheLiverpoolDelta3 жыл бұрын

    Great, my 2 year old window needs to be replaced.

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    3 жыл бұрын

    If your windows are only 2 years old they're definitely still under warranty. Contact the company that fitted them

  • @amongstourowntheinniskeas5152
    @amongstourowntheinniskeas51523 жыл бұрын

    Silica Gel desiccant can be reused by heating on a tray in your cooker. Reuse up to 100 times

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's getting it out and back in the double glazed unit is the problem

  • @shamanculture780
    @shamanculture7803 жыл бұрын

    Heartbreak hotel in here

  • @Zaine22
    @Zaine222 жыл бұрын

    So in essence would this make the double glazed glass be as energy efficient as a single plain of glass

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    2 жыл бұрын

    If the space between the two panes of glass were filled with argon gas, there would be a reduction in the thermal performance. If the space between the two panes were air filled then there would be no change in thermal performance. It's still air between the two panes even if it's moist air

  • @Zaine22

    @Zaine22

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PaddysDiy thank you If the seals had gone would this likely cause more condensation on the inside glass. Thanks again

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    2 жыл бұрын

    No it wouldnt effect anything on the inside. Condensation on the inside surface is just a problem this time of year no matter how good or bad your windows are. The less thermally efficient they are the worse the condensation will be

  • @uncurlydiykeratin7860
    @uncurlydiykeratin78602 жыл бұрын

    Give me one good reason why you can't simply separate the panes (or at least one of them) from the hollow center channel, refill the channel with new dessicant, then reattach the pane(s) to the channel, seal the outer edge, and put the window back? Why do you think the glass and channel need to be scrapped? Talk about wasteful and needlessly expensive...

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sounds so easy doesn't it, take it out, split the glass from the spacer, replace the desiccant, clean the glass and re-glue the glass back on. Do you realise how long it takes to do that? An absolute age to do it properly. I would be surprised if there is a glazier that even provides this service. If there is, then they have absolutely no value for their time or are charging way more than what it would cost to just replace it. I'll give you a bit of information. When you're hiring any trades person to do work for you. You're paying for their time. From the time they get into their van to drive to you, they are on the clock. So the shorter the amount of time to complete a job, the cheaper it will be. Replacing the fogged double glazing is going to be WAY quicker than what you're suggesting. Which in turn is going to be cheaper. If you're doing this job yourself that's fine. By all means go ahead if you have the time to do it. But there is absolutely nothing simple about what you suggest. Do you realise how difficult a job it is to do? And dangerous even for glaziers who know what they're doing, let alone a DIYer? I know a glazier who was splitting a unit to use one of the panes of glass. Knife slipped while cutting the glue, glass broke and went straight into his hand. Five hours in a&e and eleven stitches. How is it wasteful? Glass is probably one of the most recyclable materials in the world. It's just melted down and made into new glass. All the old glass I replace is separated into a skip and sent to be recycled. I'll tell you what's wasteful is the time anyone wastes trying to reseal or repair fogged double glazing. And the time reading your comment and thinking you know what you're talking about. Anyway, I have to go. I need new tires on my car, but it's too expensive to get new ones, so I'm going to rethread them myself. Don't know what I'm doing but what's the worst that could happen eh? 🙃

  • @queeny-m541

    @queeny-m541

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PaddysDiy omg that response was so funny 😂 I understand how the initial commenter feels. Us regular folk are just trying to save money and being highly suspicious of tradesmen comes with that territory. But thanks you made a great vid with clear explanations 👍🏾

  • @paulfoot535

    @paulfoot535

    Жыл бұрын

    best of luck with that ! the inside of the glass is normally coated with a metallic oxide coat ,if you try to use vinegar or alcohol to clean you will ruin it ,it will look like an oil slick and lose half the thermal efficiency

  • @paulmather7453
    @paulmather74534 жыл бұрын

    Double Glazing is overrated, in the past the older homes had single glazed windows, when did you ever have to replace a window? Never - unless you hit the cricket ball through it! now the council make it mandatory in new homes, go figure, 2 lots of glass and the machine to make them works out to over three times the cost of a normal window pane. They warrant this by saying your heating bill will be less!! You would have to live until you're 300 to recoup the cost of the dbl glazing then doing it again after 10 or 15yrs!

  • @HektorBandimar

    @HektorBandimar

    3 жыл бұрын

    Double glazing is worth every penny, it's good insulation, and very good for noise reduction, I would hate to have single glazing.

  • @uncurlydiykeratin7860

    @uncurlydiykeratin7860

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@HektorBandimar Double glazing is only marginally more insulating than single. Rarely worth the money and replacement windows always look like anachronistic crap on an older home. Make sure your single glazed windows have intact glazing, not cracked or missing. Use a top-notch glazing compound like Sarco Dual Glaze, not DAP/crap.

  • @DeanTheDoctor

    @DeanTheDoctor

    Жыл бұрын

    @@uncurlydiykeratin7860 I Don't work on windows for a living, but in my experience, layering up a clear piece of acrylic to create an air gap (for making 3D printer enclosures), greatly decreases the rate of heat loss with each successive air gap that is introduced. You do have to use a good sealing compound to prevent humidity from condensing on the inside of the panels, but it is more than worth it to layer up window panes whenever you can, and older houses used to do this rather simply by spacing their windows with a 4-in air gap in between, Although, unlike today, those window panes were often separate and moved independently from each other and weren't really affected by humidity because you could easily open the inner or outer windows as needed. It also made replacing those window panes very easy to do. 😊🌎❤️

  • @palaHD

    @palaHD

    Жыл бұрын

    Everyone died of hyperthermia in those days because of it

  • @Enquiringmind777
    @Enquiringmind7774 жыл бұрын

    Why the video? You could have said "trust me, just buy another window".

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Would you go buy a new car if you got a flat tire? Why would you buy a whole new window when you could replace the section that needs replacing. The point of the video is to explain to people what the cause of the condensation.. Read some of the comments, people think that it can just be cleaned.

  • @tonyborders7108

    @tonyborders7108

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PaddysDiy Now, I'm confused. It sounds like you said just buy a new window in the video.

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tonyborders7108no i didn't say to replace the window in the video. I said replace the double glazed unit. The double glazed unit is not the whole window. You could have multiple double glazed units in one window. If one of them has condensation between the panes, just replace that one

  • @tonyborders7108

    @tonyborders7108

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PaddysDiy Thank you for the reply. I appreciate your video and the explanation of what causes the condensation inside.

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tonyborders7108 Thanks for the comment

  • @CoD_Maj3st1k
    @CoD_Maj3st1k4 жыл бұрын

    My parents entire house is double panned windows. F me.. they all are doing this. I never hated a person more that I've never met before then the guy who built the house with his own plans. It is a money pit and guess who has to fix/replace this stuff. Me. Is there another solution instead of replacing every single one of these? For my sake lol.

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    4 жыл бұрын

    In my experience trying to cut corners to save money usually ends up costing more

  • @JosePerez-ok5rd

    @JosePerez-ok5rd

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tint those windows withe film

  • @CoD_Maj3st1k

    @CoD_Maj3st1k

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JosePerez-ok5rd what will that do with window condensation in between the double pane glass?

  • @sparkandflame

    @sparkandflame

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CoD_Maj3st1k It will atleast cover it up and hide it if the person cannot afford to replace all of the old windows.. its ugly! I have this problem too, and I just cannot afford to replace all my windows, so I am having to cover it with window tints aswell, its effective though, hides it very well

  • @str8profit81
    @str8profit812 жыл бұрын

    This video was of no help. Could of just took 10 seconds or less and just tell us best way is to replace it 😑

  • @lgrundy6139
    @lgrundy61392 жыл бұрын

    Double pane windows seem like a huge waste of money. Who would buy these if your cannot clean them. All the Windows in the house I bought have crap windows that are dirty in between and the answer is to replace all. Replace with what? I live in a colder climate what’s the alternative to these crap windows

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    2 жыл бұрын

    The whole idea of double glazed windows is they give way more insulation than single glazed windows. 3 or 4 more. So if you have a whole house of single glazed windows, the money you spend heating your home is absolutely flying out the windows. Double glazed units are sealed in the factory the day they are made. They're never designed to be taken apart to be cleaned. They are glued together. Good double glazing that is fitted correctly should last for at least 20 years before they break down and let in moisture. That is just the nature of things. Nothing lasts forever. It sounds like the windows in your house are at the end of their life. So replace them with single glazed windows if you want to live in a freezer. Double glazing is you want to have a good level of comfort or triple glazing if you really want to minimise heat loss.

  • @Marshas_Journey
    @Marshas_Journey2 жыл бұрын

    You need to talk a little louder please

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    2 жыл бұрын

    noted

  • @tinaknutsen

    @tinaknutsen

    Жыл бұрын

    @@PaddysDiy FYI; also had difficulty hearing you, had to back up and rewatch a few times in various sections.

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tinaknutsen thanks I'll check if can adjust the volume or add closed captions

  • @iveneverseenahealthyvegan.9885
    @iveneverseenahealthyvegan.98852 жыл бұрын

    Don't buy Everest....

  • @joeoldiesexpert1360
    @joeoldiesexpert13603 жыл бұрын

    I havev13 windows' he Obviously does not know how much it cost to replace glass. We tapped on his site to find a much cheaper way out so thanks for nothing

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations on having 13 windows. I'm well aware of the cost of glass, and the cost of new windows. After that you lost me, rest of what you wrote makes no sense.

  • @TNCelt1
    @TNCelt14 жыл бұрын

    Soo...buy new windows. Thanks. }:-/

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Would you go buy a new car if you got a flat tire? Why would you buy a whole new window when you could replace the section that needs replacing.

  • @TNCelt1

    @TNCelt1

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@PaddysDiy ...exactly, but did you even watch your own video?

  • @missmuffet3874
    @missmuffet38742 жыл бұрын

    I cannot understand why you have made a video explaining the ins and outs only to inform us at the end that we need a complete new unit. You are giving people false hopes of a solution, especially on a site called DIY. My window is absolutely massive what has this problem and I was hoping for a cheap solution instead of paying thousand plus pounds.

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    2 жыл бұрын

    The video is to explain why and how it happens, because most people don't know. So they don't go off and waste their money trying to fix something that can't be fixed. You're obviously someone that doesn't like hearing an inconvenient truth. I would suggest you go watch the Disney channel if you're not prepared for the realities of this world.

  • @missmuffet3874

    @missmuffet3874

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PaddysDiy RUDE

  • @tinaknutsen

    @tinaknutsen

    Жыл бұрын

    @@missmuffet3874 That was completely rude and unprofessional…shocked Read a comment that he replied back that he went out of business…I felt bad when I read that, but seeing this you know customer service is lacking. I watched this video thinking the same thing you commented on….looking for a cheaper alternative.

  • @CrypticHack3r
    @CrypticHack3r6 ай бұрын

    Stupidest design ever!

  • @pleasebeinteresting
    @pleasebeinteresting Жыл бұрын

    what if you use a heat gun ?

  • @PaddysDiy

    @PaddysDiy

    Жыл бұрын

    It'll evaporate the moisture but as soon as it gets cold it'll condense again

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