I guarantee the reason why it’s pitching up, if because you have to much positive wing incidence, the original drawings of these planes has sooo much wing loading they Needed more angle of attack, but these super light models don’t need any help from angle of attack so it should be 0 incidence and about 2 degrees down thrust

@ryanryessir

2 жыл бұрын

Anything to deal with CG too maybe? Like having too far an aft CG with too great amount of thrust causing extreme pitching up tendencies?

@UpVoltageOverclocking

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanryessir I don’t believe this instance to be a CG issue as the plane flew great otherwise, he didn’t say the elevator was touchy or anything. This wing incidence is a common thing to over look as when these planes were originally designed they were HEAVY and carried heavy payloads, so more angle of attack on the wing is needed, these models we build today are so light they simply don’t need the assistance from more positive angle on the wing. For example the 50cc Top Flight P51 Mustang the designers messed up the incidence on them for the same reason therefore the plane needs to be trimmed out with a lot of down elevator to fly level, but this creates drag and causes it to be slower than need be

@maderaditya.1302

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe add MCAS?

@UpVoltageOverclocking

2 жыл бұрын

@@maderaditya.1302 bandaid fixes are never good

@jarekmace1536

2 жыл бұрын

I imagine it will fly more true to design once all the weapon blisters, transmitters, pyro, and any ordnance racks get installed. Add about 10 lbs. of stuff to the frame and there will be a massive change.

Reminds me why I took up RC aircraft flying all those years ago. Beautiful. Well done to all.

@lonelyme9914

2 жыл бұрын

It’s amazing. Makes me want to fly my P-51 next to it.

@huckabro8030

2 жыл бұрын

@@lonelyme9914 because you have a p 51

@lonelyme9914

2 жыл бұрын

@@huckabro8030 not a flitetest P-51 but yeh

I can't wait to see the plane all done with a killer paint job and flying high and proud. Great job guys.

I'm 48 years old and the ww2 planes are my favorite aircraft of all time minus a few newer planes (f22,f35 and A10) but the bombers of that area are the most beautiful and graceful aircraft while flying. You guys and the crew have done an incredible and amazing job with the build. Flitetest and the gentleman who builds Airbus's and gulfstream planes are the ONLY 2 channels I watch for rc plane builds.

That was absolutely beautiful to watch. The hope of flying a RC B-17 is the whole reason I got into the hobby. I've only got the 1875mm B-17 but she's a gentle giant for sure. Thank you for building this beauty.

I can’t help but believe, that somewhere “out there”, there’s a 85+ year old Boeing Aerospace Engineer, maybe even a U.S. Army Air Corps pilot, watching this video, with tears in their eyes. Absolutely beautiful watching that “warbird” climb, make her turns, and land on a grass field--right out of the English countryside! Bravo-Zulu, gentleman….very well done!

@daniel_f4050

2 жыл бұрын

There is nothing better than seeing a plane fly in a more scale way. A WWII four engine bomber making a 60° climb out just seems…..wrong? 😄

When Jason flew it, he took things to a whole new level. Under his control, the plane looked more realistic, more natural.

When flying this, I don't think that "nervousness" will ever go away!! at least not entirely... Great work to all of Flite Test!! AirHammer out!!

Great job on the scale flight Jason! You made that look SMOOOOTH! The narration and tips on your inputs were cool too. Helped me feel like I was on the sticks with you.

@shiftnsix

2 жыл бұрын

Didn’t know you were an R/C fan, cool! Love the content you put out Brian, it’s nice to see you here.

Down thrust? Looks great, and I love how happy everyone seemed with the success. This is what a hobby should be about.

Finally it’s built!

3:58 The best example I've seen to show how big this plane really is through the medium of YT 😲 How small Josh looks compared to the size of the wing chord is insane.

@spyhunter7056

2 жыл бұрын

actually i think it's 7:57 it shows how big this plane is.

@dreww9011

2 жыл бұрын

@@spyhunter7056 yeah, seeing how tall it was when stood up straight, just looks gigantic compared to them

WOW JUST WOW!!! What a great build y'all. Can't wait to see that painted!!! Beautiful job..

Props to the quad pilots who get these great videos.

AWWWEEEESOME!!!!! You guys are great. Loved all the energy you can feel coming off everyone involved. Glad you love doing this and looking forward to the video of it.

That’s a cool plane guys hope y’all a good day

Nothing more beautiful than the lines of a B-17 flying through the air. Well done!

@altaylor3988

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to rain on your parade Mate ... But the so called Beauty is irrelevant .. The B17 was a grossly inefficient Bomber because it carried a crew of 11, 4 engines, a very small Bomb load of only 4,000lbs and over not a long range, it carried tons of 50cal ammo and despite looking like a Porcupine with so many 50 cannons it was easily picked off by the Me 109's with a high attrition rate. However the R.A.F.'s Lancaster was built as a Bomber from War Time experience to carry heavy bomb loads and NOT look Pretty, also had 4 Engines (RR Merlins), a crew of 7, Longer legs and eventually could carry up to 21,000lbs bomb load with an average of 12,000lbs, farther , Faster and Higher than the B17, it had .303 Guns with minimal ammo. Even the Wooden Wonder the Mosquito with 2x RR Merlins and a Crew of 2 could carry 4,000lbs Further, Faster and Higher and without any defensive armament (due to it's SPEED) eventually the Mosquito was adapted into some 25 Mks... It was also a Beautiful Aircraft. Please remember the R.A.F. had some THREE years experience of WW2 before the Americans entered the War in late 1942, the R.A.F. trialed some B17's but found them sadly lacking in Performance in many areas. IF only the Americans had listened to the Experienced R.A.F. They could have achieved much more., but regrettably they thought they knew best.

@roberthouston9657

2 жыл бұрын

@@altaylor3988 and in the end the did.

This was awesome. Wife and I have been waiting for this day. We just wish we could of heard the plane as you made a few passes. We bet it sounded awesome!!

Magnificent! Jason's takeoff and landing had a great scale look, amazing how it leaps into the air if you don't intentionally keep it down. Can't wait to see it painted up. Great job guys!

Right on! Grew up with my dad building 1/4 and then later 1/3 scale RCA models. His attention to detail and ability to fly them is pretty well known within his circle.

This one's a really good series guys. Can't wait to see what you have in stall for us. Well done👍

FINALY THEY FLIGHT TEST THIS THING

Take flight young behemoth!!

Two huge thumbs up, guys! Arguably the best maiden flights on KZread so far in the 21st Century. Congratulations and it was well worth the wait, as I've been following this project since day one like a cat with OCD chasing a laser spot. It's absolutely beautiful. Now I'm just looking forward to seeing her in full dress at Flite Fest. What a showstopper she's gonna be!

Good to see this beauty finally hit the skies. 🛩️ As always, great work by the whole team. 👏🏻 Much love, from India. ❤️

Congratulations on the first flights of your B-17!! I've been watching the build the whole way so far. I'm looking forward to thefinal look of the paint scheme and the turrets installed. Hope you have a tail gunner's view in the final version.

You guys make these things any bigger and they will just be flyable ultralights!

What an amazing job you guys did here! She is beautiful!! I can't wait to see her all painted up, and looking perfect. Congratulations on your build. Great video and piloting skills!

@davidjester5085

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for watching. The paint is done keeps an eye out for the next video she looks amazing

That flight was so beautiful. Great job guys

Man that is so awesome and beautiful . Can't wait to see it painted

You should make drone like Missiles for this. Once you drop them someone else can guide them

bro it is just so smooth and stable congrats bro its like a achievement

@dhroovsimpi9535

2 жыл бұрын

that was quick bro

Well, it flew just like I knew it would. Beautifully! Man, that thing has a presence in the air. I’m really looking forward to seeing it at Flite Fest!

@KC-sb2sm

2 жыл бұрын

The most beautiful machine in the world is a wheels up B17 in flight to me. Just my opinion

Absolutely love it guys! Can't wait to see it all decked out @ Flite Fest this week!

That was freakin' fun to watch it fly so easily and maneuver with ease! Well done!! The chase drones and cameras on the B-17 were very cool as well, made me feel like I was right there! Thanks for the ride!

Great work fellas! Followed you as you were building this bird. And it met and exceeded all expectations. It looks so beautiful in the air and coming down for landing it looks so scale it was incredible. Congrats from John in Canada

@davidjester5085

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching John stay tuned it gets better just wait till you see her with paint!

She just floted of the ground.

Congratulations!! All that work blood sweat and tears have all paid off. It must be an awesome feeling for all those involved. Can't wait to see the finished product.

ITS FINALLY HERE!!! Great job guys!

Awesome work FT crew! You should get Peter to bring his ultralight out there and fly formation with it, I bet they're pretty close in size!

I can’t tell you how long I’ve been waiting for this video and to see this thing fly😅

Once again FT is perhaps the best most fun channel on youtube. So much fun to watch as these friends share the excitement and joy of accomplishing a goal; showcasing the best aspects of humanity as was it was created to be.

Beautiful 😍

@finnleithomczyk5292

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@ShreySingh09

2 жыл бұрын

Same

Hmm... an interesting idea they might be able to work into some of their bigger things is some sort of carry handle that either pulls flat or sinks into the plane itself. Sort of like the extendable handles (pin locks optional) or the anchored 'stretchy' ones on a lot of suitcases. Might be an easier carry method than grabbing around the fuselage. On the other hand, I'm not too sure how much it will mess with the weight and it might mess with the scale detailing a bit. Alternatively, they could add bars under removable panels to keep the smooth outer appearance, but that might add more issues. That said, I would *love* to see this flying with a same-scale fighter escort.

I love the enthusiasm and overall vibe these guys have

Congrats guys, honestly its so inspiring to see how far you guys have come...incredible to think that this is the same channel i was watching all those years ago reviewing planes and the beginners series with Josh Scott, to all the foam board planes, buying a golf course...and now this. You inspired me to get into flying RC and gave me confidence to get into doing something I always wanted to do but was too scared to crash, which has become my favourite hobby and am now getting into 3D flying. The positive attitude and sheer joy you guys bring to the hobby is so encouraging and I can only thank you for it and cant wait to see what you do in the future.

@davidjester5085

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for having in there with us. That's what it is all about glad to hear how you have grown into a good pilot.

What A Beast!!! keep up the awesome work guys!🤩

As soon as I saw the motors you were intending to use, I knew that this model would be overpowered and nose up under power. You need downthrust with so much power and such large propellors. You probably also need more wing incidence since it mellowed right out with some flaps which increase Alpha as well as adding some drag. Also, your decalage is probably wrong and I'd check on the C.G. Moving it slightly forward would likely improve pitch handling. It's not enough to make a nice looking airframe, which you did, aircraft design aerodynamics really matter. I'll be looking for this model when you have sorted out it out and finished it. Great job, great project.

That is absolutely awesome. Fantastic job to the FT crew for putting all the hard work in getting this built & put in the air. See you all at FF ✈✈

Finnaly. Going along with the full series was very rewarding to watch

Please turn the background music down, struggling to listen in parts....

Great Job Dave, Looks fantastic. I wish I was back in Ohio, I would definitely make it over to Flite Fest this year. I had an Uncle that was a side gunner in one during WW2. He was the first one in Airforce in family. I joined Army as well as Dad did. Out of thirteen Brothers and Sisters, Had one in Airforce, two in Marines, One in Navy and Three in Army. Lot of Grandkids in Military as well on Dads side. On my Mothers side, I am only grand child in service, having lost two uncles in service.

@roberthouston9657

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service. Many in this world sleep in peace at night because of vigilant men like you who take their shift upon the wall.

@davidjester5085

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry for your losses and thank you for your service. Flite Fest was incredible sorry you could not make it. Keep your eyes out for the next video the B-17 gets all dolled up looks awesome

It flies! Congratulation guys, this is an awesome project that I have been following from day one. I am so looking forward tot he next instalment.

Every time I see that field I can still remember where my son and I had our tent setup for FliteFest. It’s been a few years since the last one we attended but I sure do miss it. Thank You FliteTest for all the memories with my son.

@davidjester5085

2 жыл бұрын

so happy that we could help make those memories

love ❤ from India

Some way to get some kind of sound effect to get that authentic motor sound would be cool. So many B-17s returned crippled flying with less than four engines, I wonder how this would fly on two or three motors? After you get some hours on it, that might be interesting to find out.

@davidunderwood1907

2 жыл бұрын

Boss idea bro

Fantastic job guys, ive followed this, and cant wait to see it in paint, etc

You should try to make a couple 10+ foot Blue Angels replicas and put on a show Or at least use the Blue Angels colors

You might want to try adding a bit of down thrust to the engines to alleviate the tendancy to pitch up under power.

@Lozzie74

2 жыл бұрын

Or alternatively take out the actual cause: wing-tail incidence. Down thrust is a 1960s approach to aircraft control. There is nothing about the way a propeller turns to justify down thrust. It’s useful in a high winger like a Cessna 172, where the thrust line is way below the centre of drag. A B17 is hardly a high winger.

@Chevsilverado

2 жыл бұрын

It would be better to fix the pitch issue by addressing the airframe. This model is much much lighter than the real thing so it doesn’t require the same design as the real thing, which carries bombs and is super heavy. Slightly tweaking the geometry would fix the issue entirely. Using down thrust to combat the airframe design can lead to weird flight characteristics depending on the severity.

Now you should get like 5 of those and fly formation

@timinamen1217

2 ай бұрын

Do you have $5 000???

Congrats guys! Well done!!!

CONGRATULATIONS to everyone!!!! So much love, sweat, and passion put into this glorious beast of the skies!

So amazing 👏 I wonder if there is some kind of sound kit made for something like this. Kinda like they make for fighters that are electric 🤔

@FliteTest

2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant idea!

@charlietrask2477

2 жыл бұрын

you is

@charlietrask2477

2 жыл бұрын

you is

@charlietrask2477

2 жыл бұрын

you is

That B-17 is amazing, can't wait to see more of it, have you guys ever thought of doing a homage to the Antonov An-225? I saw that it's been destroyed during the conflict in Ukraine and it's such a cool plane, would love to see you guys create something like it :)

@waynefisher4327

2 жыл бұрын

There is a fan video of the An-225 landing. Lord is my witness that plane moved the ground fog weather when it landed. Just a beast... Tower:: Caution Antonov we see heavy ground fog on your approach. An-225 pilot:: We confirm visual no worries we'll take care of that fog for you.

@e3dave744

2 жыл бұрын

👌🏻👍

This once more demonstrates how exciting a KZread channel can be! Awesome work! Can't wait to see it painted!

I love what you guys do, it's awesome to see you all just come together and make these projects come to life. God Bless!!!

Oh yeah been waiting a while for this can't wait to see what happens 👍 edit WoW it flew absolutely beautifully just like I imagined. With a few adjustments I'm sure it will fly even better. Absolutely 🔥 EPIC 🔥 Build guys. Can't wait to see it painted and back in the sky. 🔥👍✌️

Way to Awesome ! Great job FliteTest crew , I can't wait to see the paint job and turrets on that thing !!!!

Very happy this project came together so well for you guys. Great work!

I'm imagining her painted up and touring the old 8th Air Force stations over here. A worthy tribute to the originals.

Loving it! Can't wait to see what comes next. As always, thank you all for what you do!

Congratulations! Great job!

@ 22:09, great idea! He is a very scale rc pilot. Smoothness gives a crowd of spectators confidence with what is about to happen.

I am SO HAPPY for you guys!!! This is your finest achievement yet! What a beautiful, scale flyer. Now it needs some retracts and a paint job!

Great work guys! Can't wait to see it after it's painted

Loved This...SOOOO BIG!!!. Been away for awhile. Great job yall!!

I never got into RC, but one of my uncles was a trophy winner in aircraft & yachts and used to design & build his own. Some of the footage he showed us from one of his powered gliders was serious birds eye view. I was a serious model aircraft maker back at high school & favoured mainly WW2 era propeller driven war birds, I can still remember when I built my B-17, it was jaw dropping, so well done with yours, aircraft are meant to fly.

That was fabulous! Looking forward to seeing the full paint and markings!

I've unfortunately have not kept up with y'all in a while and your huge now. Congratulations I've followed you from the beginning. Awesome couldn't happen to nicer guy and friends. Been watching since it was just the three of you.

I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL MAN KEEP IT UP!!

Some scale p51's with this and you could have an amazing flight show.

My grandfather was a B-17 mechanic with the 95th bomb group. Love seeing there is still interest in the beautiful B-17.

Great video,. Well done guys ,very impressive.👍

Can't wait to see this in person. Looks like she flies great. Excellent job everyone.

Oof the pucker factor on that last landing. lol Looking amazing great work to all involved! Can't wait to see it finished.

Wow that’s so awesome!!! Great job flite test 👏

OMG....that silhouette, amazing video of a stunning bird, love the B17.

You guys are awesome...My Dad was a Radioman in B-17s; keep them coming my friend!

awesome you finally did it I'm excited to see this video I have been waiting for this

Absolutely epic, did have my heart in my mouth on the last landing. 😎. Looking forward to see the turrets and paint. Great job guys. 👍🏻

@davidjester5085

2 жыл бұрын

I am right there with you brother!

That was so cool to see after all this time watching the build. Great job guys!

Congrats guys!! That was awesome!!!

The dronevids look absolutely fantastic when the plane makes a turn!

AMAZING work guys, congrats!!!

I had the song no bullets fly by sabaton playing in my head the whole time while watching this, truly an awesome creation, I can’t wait to see it with all the turrets and paint and stuff in it

That was totally fun to watch!!!!!!!! Wish video was longer.

Great work! It's always fun to see you guy's crazy ideas come to life!

Stunning accomplishment and flying, guys! One of your greatest vids. Thank you!! :)

Best of the best just needs paint shop thx 🙏 for this guys just home from the hospital 🏥 can’t walk lifted my spirits up 🆙

@FliteTest

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother! Praying for healing and quick recovery! JB

Wow looks magnificent! Beyond fantastic job you all have done. Can't wait to see the painted finish.