Watch the FULL TRIAL of WI v. #JeffreyDahmer (1992) on #CourtTV Trials #OnDemand www.courttv.com/trials/wi-v-dahmer-1992/

@sinfulrailwonderer383

Жыл бұрын

Hi, I wanted to know whether you guys by chance also have recorded the press conference held by the judge right after sentencing?

@dion2261

Жыл бұрын

Old news and a scumbag upload pure excrement

@nesleanyounes7016

Жыл бұрын

Hey, do you have something on the toolbox killers ?

@nativestrengthandironnutri6852

Жыл бұрын

A few things,why isn't he in handcuffs and sad that life in prison does not mean life and heck no see his parents should have been treated like the animal he was

@shethingsd

Жыл бұрын

He wasn't A danger to anyone in the courtroom because he was a coward. and he was murdered in prison, so life was death.

The man that played him in the Netflix series did a damn good job

@gmdtech8008

Жыл бұрын

To good of a job 😭

@hellsbells2028

Жыл бұрын

@@gmdtech8008 he plays psychopaths so well doesn't he!

@DjMeow

Жыл бұрын

The man? You’re right. He is THE MAN! Evan Peters is the single most talented actor of the today! Absolute chameleon 💝💝💝

@geekemedia

Жыл бұрын

Evan!

@siasimone6202

Жыл бұрын

Damn near identical with everything!!

We can say he wasn't legally insane. But this is still completely abnormal. Noone with any sound mind would do this. There's something fundamentally wrong. Not everything can be diagnosed, understood or even given a name. Some people are just the way they are.

@Maria-fz1mu

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he was possessed by a demon. I believe in demons and possession.

@nene8482

Жыл бұрын

@@Maria-fz1mu anything is possible. We live in a spinning ball suspended in infinite space, and I mean that non sarcastically ☺️

@joshuashope9610

Жыл бұрын

@@Maria-fz1mu he stated he gave his soul to the devil when he was a kid

@mr.scoggins

Жыл бұрын

@@sabrinamendez6223 Mark 5:1.

@claireguerin

Жыл бұрын

He knew what he was doing was wrong, which technically makes him sane. He also was able to be disarming and seem normal until he was ready to strike and pounce on his victims. He was by far one of the most terrifying characters... being able to be calm and normal on the outside when clearly his true desires were so dark.

His being so calm and normal is the most terrifying thing ever

@jay-kl3jw

Жыл бұрын

kinda make's my skin crawl.

@nicolaem06

Жыл бұрын

knowing his level of intelligence makes me comfy:) but im sorry cuz he died, i would pay to drink a cola eat a pizza and enjoy talking with him for a while

@coreclan7239

11 ай бұрын

​@@nicolaem06 bro that's actually terrible. look more into the case and see what he really did to his victims

@fourshore502

11 ай бұрын

everyone becomes a creep when they get horny, just some more than others.

@Julia-nw5gm

11 ай бұрын

I don’t know why but I actually feel like you can kinda hear some shaking in his voice. I’m not defending him, he was a terrible human being and caused a lot of pain.

Jeff Dahmar will forever be one of the scariest and most disturbing cases in history

I can only imagine how his father felt discovering what his son did. It's a miracle that he still loves him.

@LUKERs1196

Жыл бұрын

Maybe there is a lot more to it When you research the Dahmer case more things are left out then told

@Baldwin-iv445

Жыл бұрын

@@LUKERs1196 I know, in fact whenever you look at his interviews, they're always shortened just to certain points that the company wants to see. Apparently they would always leave out the religious parts where he talked about his faith and how he views the world since the baptism. So there is always more to see when it comes to Jeff and his story.

@eastsidee62

Жыл бұрын

I mean you pose to love your child no matter what. No matter how evil your child may be

@movieman175

Жыл бұрын

the love a parent has for their child is powerful thing.

@Baldwin-iv445

Жыл бұрын

@@movieman175 Love in general is a truly powerful thing.

I feel so bad for the families involved. The victims’ parents having to live with the horror that their sons were not only murdered but eaten. The father also has to live with the notion that he failed miserably with his son. This is just so heartbreaking

@atune2682

Жыл бұрын

and the mother too

@jibbyjabs

Жыл бұрын

If the father feels that way It is just because he is so kind. It was normal for dad to go to work and the fish and talk with their sons. It was really the lack of early attachment to his severely unwell mother which would have done the most early and formative harm. The mother has been disappointingly quiet given how publicly honest Lionel has been over the years

@denisenoe3702

Жыл бұрын

And sexually abused both before and after their deaths. He also drilled into their heads in attempts to create "zombies" who would do his sexual bidding. Their sons and brothers suffered.

@lucianradu6858

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but dahmer just wanted to preserve them forever, in dahmer world everything os good

@RozettaVyper

Жыл бұрын

@@lucianradu6858 That was the psychosis talking.

Not only is Dahmer the only serial killer to ever have a real apology, he's the only criminal/murderer that didn't blame on anyone but himself.

@Itsjessicaphillips

6 ай бұрын

SO WHAT? HES A CRAZY EVIL MAN THAT IS NOT SORRY HE IS ONLY SORRY ONE MAN WAS ABLE TO UNDO EVERYTHING AND EXPOSE HIM FOR WHAT HE IS. I really don’t see any sympathy in what he said. He is going to spend a never ending eternity in the flames of hell feeling every bit of pain he’s victims felt and even more for his decisions the lord don’t forgive people like Jeffrey dahmer, the lords name to be used by an individual I don’t see as a human but a monster is a sin in itself. Disgusting to even see the actual face behind all the murders and lives taken.

@ericjohnson8488

5 ай бұрын

That's the reverse psychology he pulling on ya.

@darianjohnston1658

5 ай бұрын

Guess you haven't been around narcissistic psychopaths much eh

@Nairbe-kx8nq

5 ай бұрын

Richard ramirez didn’t blame others either

@taopaille-paille4992

5 ай бұрын

Count the number of times he says "I"

He really is a wonder. He speaks with intelligence and understanding but with no emotion. When he says he loves his family very much he says it with a monotone dead emotion. What he did was horrible beyond belief it’s a shame they didn’t get him sooner. Rip to the victims and healing for all the families on both sides

@jaerawang

10 ай бұрын

He literally sounds like he is about to cry, literally on the verge of crying 🤦‍♀️

@jonBswervin

10 ай бұрын

@@jaerawang but he’s not though, that’s literally how he sounds he has no emotions or feelings with the words he’s saying and says so its all monotoned

@thekylorey6308

9 ай бұрын

He sounds void of empathy... Like he knows what he did was wrong but only because he was told so, yet he has no remorse (or emotion for that sake) for his actions or for the families. It is truly fascinating, remarkable and most of all terrifying...

@BB-nl9gw

9 ай бұрын

It was his mood and the way of speaking some people are talk like no emotions so don't judge book by cover bcz in the end he gained knowledge from Jesus so don't be fool what the matter of God it's his class

@JaredFordham-bg6gt

9 ай бұрын

@@BB-nl9gw A god that lets him into paradise while casting a good person into hell despite living a life worthy of heaven just because they were a non-believer is not a god worth worshiping.

Wow this judge stands out in terms of eloquence and humanity and empathy and intelligence. Rarely seen a man that sensible, rational and warm hearted at the same time.

@user-gu4ws9iq3l

Жыл бұрын

spent so much time pitying dahmers family in his own opening statements. stfu its not their time.

@katc6823

Жыл бұрын

Judge sounded lame, total waste of time going on way too long Be done already I had to stop listening to his nonsense

@niceguy1891

Жыл бұрын

@@katc6823 you mustn't be very intelligent

@caddieohm7059

Жыл бұрын

@@katc6823 Gen Z attention span?

@CrimsonUniverse22

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, compare that to the judge who presided over the Larry Nassar case. She was all sorts of attitude. And in a few instances, she was straight up petty for a judge.

The judge was so eloquent and greatly affected by this horror show. A historic case.

@sinfulrailwonderer383

Жыл бұрын

he read the sentences eventually you know, he read them and sent Dahmer off swiftly. Judges do get to speak their piece during the sentencing phase and Judge Gram here did just that. It shows that he was affected by the trial, took his job seriously and did it diligently.

@botersause3627

3 ай бұрын

His take about dahmer being a homosexual, his worries causing him to 'destroy' the evidence is bogus. He was a cold blooded killer without sympathy, empathy. Making him a psychopath in my eyes. He should be seen as one.

The Netflix series led me here. It's crazy to think someone who committed such heinous crimes could end things the way he did with apologies and full cooperation.

@flightofthebumblebee9529

Жыл бұрын

For as sick as he was I don't believe he was even remotely as EVIL as Bundy, BTK, Ramirez, and Gacy. Those 4 men were a level of evil that is absolutely sickening. Dahmer never enjoyed making people suffer he was just a sick deranged lonely soul. I'm not at all defending him, but he definitely took his capture and punishment gracefully.

@Gre4tOne

Жыл бұрын

BTK surely has no empathy with his victims that is heartbreaking. But he had another side as a loving father, familyman and so on. Dahmer was a weirdo all the way - drugged and murdered all those people

@cherylcoomes6739

Жыл бұрын

@Flight of the Bumblebee Exactly yes completely agree with you!

@sharonanthony613

Жыл бұрын

Please the name of the movie

@stfu5381

Жыл бұрын

​@@sharonanthony613 dahmer

Why is the audio 100 times better than 2023 trials?

@golden11111

Ай бұрын

Exactly...i cant believe this was over 30 years ago

@SyedAhmed-im8sw

13 күн бұрын

They had better djs back then

He even apologized for those 2 lazy cops 💀

@karamay4189

Жыл бұрын

Honestly that made me sick. Those horrible cops. I'm glad that a serial killer is vouching for them...that is all they deserve.

@kathygonzalez1413

Жыл бұрын

Thats right

We only saw one of side him where he appears "normal". The victims saw the other side of him, where he is so different in mannerism, speech, appearance. They knew what we don't know and have taken this with them to their graves.

@babycakes6919

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@katherinemysteries4973

Жыл бұрын

Well said

@vamama100

Жыл бұрын

He was under influence for most of the time, alcohol, fantasies with porn and mixture of movie exorcist with lack of love and acceptance as homosexual that changed his mood into as he said it himself into a compulsive control monster.

@hamsandjenohbacon

Жыл бұрын

And Tracy Edwards, a victim who survived

@nicolestrauss629

Жыл бұрын

This is very true. The best reply I've ever seen

I really like this judge. He is so thoughtful and thorough in his explanation. Not many judges convey emotional intelligence as he did. May all the victims rest in peace.

@ugIybot

9 ай бұрын

the length of his statement was completely redundant. mf was talking about the advantages of having power over a television set lmao

@nimue4325

7 ай бұрын

I wish the legal system would not resort so much to "he came from a good family". This is where that skewered judgement comes up with law enforcement making judgements against the less fortunate or those from a minority background. Dahmer portrayed himself as intelligent and of the status quo and the cops tended to believe him. I also disagree with the judge's focus on the killings as "getting rid of the evidence" on Jeffery's part. It clearly must've been part of the sexual high for Dahmer as he was not disgusted by his first murder and continued.

@angelikacygan1628

7 ай бұрын

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@pearljam1984

4 ай бұрын

Beast judge legend

@mopnem

3 ай бұрын

@@nimue4325Agree, the thing that stood out most to me was how simple/naive the judge sounded. Now we objectively have more knowledge & exposed to more so perhaps it’s a limitation of his time. Most in the comments weren’t even born while this was going on. As for the good family part absolutely so question, racism helped dahmer & so many other american killers prosper

It’s weird how no one is mentioning how the judge has a great view of point. He understands from many different ways. He has a great mind set and a great skill with thinking and understanding.

What's so strange about Dahmer was that he seemed so normal. You'd think someone of that type of violence and perversion would come across very strange, but he didn't, which is weird

@703kwood703

Жыл бұрын

What are you talking about he did come off as weird and strange

@eknoke01

Жыл бұрын

Evil hides in plain sight.

@bkw11

Жыл бұрын

@@703kwood703 how?

@trickydancemoves463

Жыл бұрын

His dad said he made him feel uncomfortable and even in high school he gave off that vibe.of course the guys in the bars didn’t know cuz half the time time they were drunk

@SuperDurango13

Жыл бұрын

He repented

He was killed 3 years into his prison sentence. So he got what he wanted.

thank you for uploading this! I am studying criminal psychology these days out of deep curiosity and this really helps!

@lexaneli

Жыл бұрын

You better find yourself a well trained clinical psychologist who also treat individuals like yourself in that field. You're going to need one and therapy for the mental disturbances you're going to encounter in that field. The nature of a human being is a beast and many times worst than the most dangerous creatures in this world.

@Apartment.213_

Ай бұрын

Same and now it's about 3 years I've been studying about Jeff Dahmer .

His voice and demeanor always remained so calm. 🤯

@ruling528

Жыл бұрын

Because he was sedated.

@onlysusie14

2 ай бұрын

Because he doesn't care. When you don't care, you're chill as a cucumber

@adamirishconundrum851

Ай бұрын

He was a belligerent drunk.

I don’t believe those officers deserve anything except to never be in positions they were in ever again

@mariajoselacayo4364

Жыл бұрын

Cry. You must be black. If the victims were all white & and this happened in, I don't know, 1553, for example. You wouldn't probably give a "dahm".

@raiden031

Жыл бұрын

That was some terrible policing. If I was in their situation I would have resigned and switched professions over what my incompetence led to.

@CosmicSatanas_

2 ай бұрын

​@raiden031, unfortunately, they were fired, re-hired, and one of them became head of the Police Union and only recently retired. They didn't even get a slap on the wrist.

Prayers to all the victims and their families.

That judge was so eloquent and honest, glad he was there and glad Jeffrey heard him speak.

@flightofthebumblebee9529

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that a lot. I wish all judges were as soft spoken and humane as this judge.

@preskay8542

10 ай бұрын

@@flightofthebumblebee9529 wish Jeffery was humane

The most frightening part is Dahmer didn't qualify as a sociopath or psychopath. He didn't deny his crimes or try to blame anyone else.

@strangebutsatisfying2615

Жыл бұрын

He is most definitely a psychopath, probably alone and bullied as a kid, and getting his revenge as an adult... When you just got caught killing over 10 people, you're just stupid if you blame anyone else.... He just tried to avoid a lifetime in prison... It really scares me how easy people fall for the sympathy manipulation ....

@shethingsd

Жыл бұрын

@@strangebutsatisfying2615 I'm not sympathetic at all. Take a look at the DSM 5 qualifications for the disorders. There are symptoms that need to be met to qualify for mental disorders. He went exactly where he needed to go, regular prison. He didn't belong in a mental health facility.

@strangebutsatisfying2615

Жыл бұрын

@@shethingsd He is a psychopath.... You say he is not just because he didn't try blame or lie about it 😅

@strangebutsatisfying2615

Жыл бұрын

And im pretty sure he didnt tell us everything.... its just dumd to belive anything a mass murderer says.

@shethingsd

Жыл бұрын

@@strangebutsatisfying2615 there are many serial killers who claim mental illness. Jeffrey never did. A couple others didn't. I think it's important to realize murder doesn't just happen by mentally ill people. Because those are unpredictable subjects and they get away with more crimes.

I think it’s important to mention that when they say ‘mental disease’, they’re referring to insanity. Where the person is so sick they don’t know right from wrong. They had no idea and no control. Like in the case of psychosis. Mental illness is different in that you can be mildly to severely mentally ill and still know right from wrong. Dahmer knew right from wrong.

@magdaroussoulieres3074

Жыл бұрын

He had a severe mental disorder, without a doubt. I can't get why some people still question this

@goldenlass9488

Жыл бұрын

Right. The question here is could he control himself, and per his own testimony, he eventually lost control. He had nothing to gain by lying about that, the jig was up and he volunteered the horrific details of his crimes and aided the police in identifying the victims, many of whom no one even suspected Dahmer had killed.

@sadia2395

Жыл бұрын

Nailed it! Couldnt be explained better.He had abnormal urges, agreed.but he still knew right from wrong.

@empressafiya9022

Жыл бұрын

I think the doctors got it wrong though. He didn't remember some of the crimes and psychosis comes and goes. It's very hard to diagnose.

@peterseroka8101

Жыл бұрын

@@empressafiya9022 He didn't remember the second murder because he was black out drunk, not because of psychosis. If I remember correctly, he remembered all the other murders just fine.

I have heard this case so many times, but I’ve *NEVER* heard him speak.. it’s so eerie and unsettling how he has no emotion behind it.

@_zay__326

7 ай бұрын

He has mental issues and really needed help , he has borderline personality disorder

Wow, I wasn’t expecting such an amazing judge. This judge from 92’ was better than many today…

I really really wanted people to study him. I'm sure we could have learned more about others with similar conditions. We learn so much from other killers who are willing to talk honestly. Whether he was sent to jail or a mental institution, he was never going to be released for the rest of his life.

@sinfulrailwonderer383

Жыл бұрын

I had in mind that he could firstly be sent to a psychiatric ward and subject to study as well as treatement. Doctors would benefit in probing deeper into his psychic and Dahmer possibly could benefit from therapy; unlike many other killers, Dahmer was more than willing to talk about what he had done and what his fantasies were about. Once treatement/study finished, Dahmer would be comitted to a penal institution to begin serving time for his offenses. In this scenario he wouldn't have posed as a threat to society and wouldn't have been free, ever. I guess the jurors simply did not consider this possibility. Too bad, truly a wasted oppurtunity with an extremely rare forthcoming type of serial killer.

@RozettaVyper

Жыл бұрын

@@sinfulrailwonderer383 Too bad prison had other ideas for Jeffrey's brain. If the Netflix show is to be believed, then Jeffrey got what he wanted. Prison should've kept him away from the other inmates for scientific purposes.

@sinfulrailwonderer383

Жыл бұрын

@@RozettaVyper Prison isn't a conducive environment for scientefic study, let alone treatment; we use mental health institutions for those purposes. With Dahmer the jury thought punitive measures were more appropriate. Again : wasted oppurtunity. Bare minimum they could do was to ensure his safety : something all inmates are entitled to.

@RozettaVyper

Жыл бұрын

@@sinfulrailwonderer383 Umm when I said "prison had other ideas for Jeffrey's brain" I was talking about his death. Scarver an inmate in prison bludgeoned him to death so now no one can learn about him humanely. Not scientific research in prison. You have to be stupid to think they conduct that in PRISON.

@alba5537

Жыл бұрын

I believe Jeffrey wanted to die and couldn't or wouldn't do it by himself so he provoked the other inmates as much as he could to be killed. Guards in jail should have protected him but they decided to replace justice and judge and just let him die. I believe he should have gone to an institute where his mind and actions could have been studied and help to understand people similar to Jefrrey and maybe prevent some cases but unfortunately this never happened and that is a missing opportunity there.

The most horrifying thing about this is the way the judge pronounces “Defendant”

@Qandoluk

Жыл бұрын

LMAOOOOO 😂

@ayanmohamed3788

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@wanda01141

Жыл бұрын

So cringe lol. It was hard to listen to 😂

@TheShahkulu

Жыл бұрын

Defend Ant 😂

@JustGuallah

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂 I ain’t wanna be the one to say it…

He wasn't a psychopath, he was a sociapath with borderline personality. His case is so so complicated and psychologists are still working on that because its never fully solved. He was a mix of thousands things.

@laurenedney7

27 күн бұрын

Guess that makes sense with how he wants his victims to stay

I still feel so sorry for his father as much as the victims I hope they all find peace ❤️

@joeybaseball7352

Жыл бұрын

His father failed.

@NatAlia-zm2qz

Жыл бұрын

@@joeybaseball7352 it's not his fault

@joeybaseball7352

Жыл бұрын

@@NatAlia-zm2qz yes it is.

@DarkMoonLilith7

Жыл бұрын

I felt sorry for his father as well. So sad he seemed like a good father.

@Witchybitch420

Жыл бұрын

@@joeybaseball7352 then explain how he raised Jeff’s brother and he’s not out murdering and eating people? It’s not his dads fault it’s Jeff’s fault

Thank you CourtTV for all the uploads

What a gracious judge. Appreciate Jeffrey Dahmer for admitting & taking responsibility for his crimes in this court & I feel great sorrow for the victim's families. Prayers to all involved in this trial.

@glipgloop2121

Жыл бұрын

The hell, what do you mean you “appreciate Jeffrey Dahmer’s honesty” he’s the murderer who did horrible things to these men, why on earth would you appreciate him for admitting he murdered these innocent people, he shouldn’t of done in the first place.

@shook8331

Жыл бұрын

the reason that he wore his glasses in court and not any other time was so he didn’t have to look the victims in the eyes and because he also felt he didn’t need to take responsibility for what’d he done

@flightofthebumblebee9529

Жыл бұрын

@@shook8331 quite the opposite. He didn't want to see the graphic details or upset anyone anymore. He was clearly ashamed and he clearly had no excuses. None. I think it was a combination of loneliness, closet homosexuality, sadness, and even boredom. He kept crossing lines and then suddenly one day he wakes up living a life as a serial killing, necrophiliac, homosexual cannibal. I actually respect him for owning his crimes and not begging for clemency or making excuses.

@flightofthebumblebee9529

Жыл бұрын

I agree the judge was perfect. For something this horrible we needed a kind hearted and humble judge. He wasn't out to punish he was out to protect.

@laceerebeka

11 ай бұрын

I agree not very often do u see a serial killer admit he is were he belongs. It was like nothing would stop him unless he was behind bars and he admitted that in a interview. It’s very sad.

In other words, you ain't getting out 😂

@justinkanicki8044

2 ай бұрын

Toe tag parole

To be honest, I felt bad for him for a quick second, but I feel bad for those grieving families ten times more.

@celiamello4292

Жыл бұрын

Wellcome to the bunch Dahmer foolled... I was a bit foolled as well, for a bit, when I watched his Interviews... Then I remembered he was a psychopath expert in fooling everyone

@celiamello4292

Жыл бұрын

@@Anxietywilnotwin Sorry, didn't mean no offense whatsoever. I was foolled a little by him just because I also have a heart, and I identified with your comment. But then I learnt he didn't have one and he himself said that many times, that he was not empathic, he didn't feel feelings towards people, he literary said that in his confession (I heard it in a tape with the blond defense attorney of his, you get that in the Netflix doc The Tapes, I guess that is what it is called). So I think his version of events is not accurate, I don't buy it. I this it could very well be a final time of playing with others feelings, as he was very good at his whole life. That is just my take. Cheers

@dangercat9188

Жыл бұрын

Yea I feel bad for him because of his sickness but the family members and victims deserve much more sympathy.

@Anxietywilnotwin

Жыл бұрын

@@celiamello4292 no offense taken 🙂

@thadwemp20

Жыл бұрын

@@dangercat9188 he was not sick. This man was pure evil.

"I asked them to. They gave me 900 years instead" 😂

@teezee2855

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@torstensmommabear

Жыл бұрын

Right? Lol who lives that long? Whats the point lol

@addylovesyou1960

Жыл бұрын

That lives rent free in my head 😂😂😂😂

@alexalb5408

11 ай бұрын

@@torstensmommabear girl did you expect him to get a year?☠️☠️ 900 years is literally a life sentence tf

Can you imagine how the family of these victims felt listening to what happened to their loved ones. Also Jeffrey's Dad and step Mother have stuck by him but you know that they are hurt. May God heal those effected by him.

@joeygarcia6783

7 ай бұрын

Straight up dude ❤

Could you imagine hearing all these life sentences adding up to more than 900 years? 15 life sentences That's more than Ted Bundy. 941 years.

@anthonylopez6040

Жыл бұрын

Everybody lost count in the courtroom 😂

@saunderlemarchand6346

Жыл бұрын

😄 Moonchild, todos mencionan a Bundy, Bundy, Bundy... pero ese no hizo nada a la par de otros que fueron caníbales y hasta necrofílicos. Ted no es nada a la par.

@jamiecrable3511

Жыл бұрын

James homes got 12 life sentences with an additional 3,318 years. I mean DAMN

@youknownada2326

Жыл бұрын

Long time though 941 years. Surely they should be released on good behaviour after serving half of that sentence.

@sandraruiz3834

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same like you are never getting out Jeff as you are where you belong!

Forget these definitions. Serial killer John Wayne Gacy said it best ... "If Jeffrey Dahmer does not fit the criteria of insane, then I don't want to meet the person who does."

@haydnsilverton4329

Жыл бұрын

John Wayne Gacy I believe was the man who did fit the criteria of insane

My condolences to all the victims family 🙏🏾

Final statement from the Judge was priceless.

I pray all the victim's families are doing well and have moved on from this horrendous tragedy. Stay Humble everyone

@diddyfaplord

Жыл бұрын

How could they ever move on?

@EerieProps

Жыл бұрын

@@diddyfaplord People can move on. Just like I moved on from my horrible rape. I moved on. Why give up and give the rapist or murder more power over you? Some people can move on though and some don't know how.

@Invisibletoday

Жыл бұрын

@@EerieProps okay you didn’t need to use your trauma to dismiss others’

@liamc1102

Жыл бұрын

@@diddyfaplord by the Lord Jesus Christ

@jeffdridge2010

Жыл бұрын

I thought the show was solid, but I’ve seen a few articles saying some of the victims have been traumatized once again due to the release of the show. They were probably doing alright until Monster came out on Netflix.

“999 years? I’ll only do 2 of those”

I couldn't imagine trying to remain objective enough to serve on a jury trial for a case similar to this.

Prayers still to this day for the families and friends who had to experience such horrific loss. Absolutely a monster here.

He knew right from wrong but he wasnt able to stop the urge.

The way he talked he is soo calm…. That’s scary and creepy

What I find amazing and very telling is how Jeffery spent about 1 minute acknowledging the grief he gave to the victims families… hardly any to the victims themselves… and then one by one and very specifically apologized to the white people associated with the case who’s lives where effected by the case even existing. Then remarkably the Judge does the same thing right after Dalmer finished his “sorry for embarrassing us but it had nothing to do with race” speech. Then the judge does the same thing… spends all of 5 secound’s talking about the impact of the family and then goes out of his way to highlight and illustrate the impact to Dalmers crazy sick Family. Almost thought he was going to start crying or something but in that entire empathic speech that had homophobic undertones, the Judge didn’t even acknowledge any of the actual harm caused to the minority victims themselves… associated them as objects and “meat” like in his packing job. You guys probably think I’m reaching right… well just look at your own comments below mine… most people are only focused on the eloquence of the Judge… Jeffery’s family suffering and how they hope he “got help”, It is impossible for some races of people to have empathy for others. I’ll let you be the judge.

@brooklynspencer529

3 ай бұрын

thank you for saying this.

@closelaugh185

7 күн бұрын

He couldn't apologised to the victims but something tells me they wouldn't have heard....

Great speech by this very human and considerate judge. That was the retention for me watching this.

This guy needed help a long time ago

His spree should have ended with Konorak. They had one chance in their entire lives to do something heroic and they failed.

What kind of a murdering scumbag deserves special treatment??

Judge needs to just say life without parole

He was evil but at least he accepted everything that came as a punishment for him unlike others who break down and cry 🫡

I couldn’t care less about his family. The guy had a terrible sense of abandonment and that came from the father who spent his life working and the mother who was bipolar and didn’t pay any attention to him. That’s where all of this horror started in the first place. You can tell he was a neglected child. Some parents think that because they put a roof and a plate on the table their children are perfectly taken care of, so so so wrong. I feel for the families of the victims, NOT his family

@marsthorson1962

Жыл бұрын

Finally someone said this 👏

@buzzardbeatniks

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it's always best to show imperfect people no sympathy.

@goosefukulardeath7300

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, let’s see you do any better as a parent

@curiouscat8624

Жыл бұрын

@@goosefukulardeath7300 well I do my best to take good care of my children, be present, talk to them, care about everything going on in their lives, show them how much I care and love them and so on. Not an easy task always, but that’s what you “sign for” when you decide to bring another human being into this world, your most important duty ever. People that don’t see it this way, please don’t bring anymore miserable human beings into this world that after turn to monsters. Thanks

@goosefukulardeath7300

Жыл бұрын

@@curiouscat8624 how lucky you must be to have time for your loved ones. Many of us are struggling so hard working we barely have time to say I love you.

May God have mercy on him.

That big compassionate speech he gave was a prime example of a psychopath faking empathy.

Court TV, my new favorite channel!

We went to UW-MILWAUKEE when he was caught and only lived about 16 blocks away or something. Years later, I lived in Portage, WI, where he was in prison when he was killed. Strange.

A judge like this is a really "work of art" The serenity, the wisdom, the "simple" way of explanation of how (we) the society can try to understand this deviated behavior. It's unique. There should be more like him.

@sarahb2004

9 ай бұрын

I think we are seeing a few more like him in some of the current trials going on in America at this time.

@russianinzoom4372

8 ай бұрын

Damer has strong charisma. It seems he charmed the judge, and he sympathized him

@mopnem

3 ай бұрын

Whenever the KZread comment section largely congratulates someone or something. Understand it almost always means the EXACT opposite from what the clip implies.

The way one tossed a piece of trash on the ground and walked away….this is how he felt about what he done. No remorse or regret. Just glad it was over for himself.

It is such a horrific tragedy due to the fact, that you can perceive the potential of this guy and therefore are able to imagine, what good could have come from it instead of bringing, in contrast, unspeakable pain and misery and destruction. He voluntarily turned to evil. And hearing him talk about God, well, I don't know, but in my opinion it's rather His counterpart, that will have taken care of him.

@mariajoselacayo4364

Жыл бұрын

Cry.

Hadn't turned 16 yet when this was happening but I remember it... Watched and concluded the show on Netflix 30 years later...

The judge saw his moment to shine and fumbled so fuckin hard.

those words were not meant with respect, he was probably forcing himself to say something nice to all the victims he killed.

Evan Peters is truly and ominously SPOT ON. Wild

@christinakaur8766

Жыл бұрын

He did a fantastic job portraying Dahmer!

@celiamello4292

Жыл бұрын

Isn't he?!!! Man... His Voice... The accent... Chilling identical

incredible to hear the man that is responsible for all this, talk like this thanks for sharing the footage. my condolences to the families.

@mariajoselacayo4364

Жыл бұрын

He believed he was sick or evil or both, now he believes he was sick.

@flightofthebumblebee9529

Жыл бұрын

It's important people see this speech by Dahmer because I absolutely believe it was genuine. He never once makes excuses or tried to beg for mercy. When he was doing his thing, he never seen up close how it hurt people and their families. Once he got caught he probably felt relieved in some way, and once he seen how bad he hurt so many people, he seemed genuinely sorry that he hurt them. To me, that means something.

@dariussparkes7080

Жыл бұрын

@@flightofthebumblebee9529 Dude, he was a psychopath. They can feign, replicate and even understand empathy... however they can't innately feel it. If he was given the chance, he wouldn't think twice about committing his monstrous acts again.

@flightofthebumblebee9529

Жыл бұрын

@@dariussparkes7080 whatever you say dooosh baggg

@dariussparkes7080

Жыл бұрын

@@flightofthebumblebee9529 douche bag? Weird response but okay.

So impressed by the words of the judge. Very empathic and intelligent man.

@ev6n

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. Sadly, he used his empathy and intelligence for the worst.

@MrLegendary0ne

Жыл бұрын

Um no. Not empathic. Someone who killed, raped, and ate people. Hes a monster

@sinfulrailwonderer383

Жыл бұрын

@@ev6n how so? Could be more specific, I'm honestly interested in better understanding what you mean

@ev6n

Жыл бұрын

@@sinfulrailwonderer383 He was a normal guy who could've lived a fairly normal life, sadly he used that to his advantage.

@ev6n

Жыл бұрын

@@MrLegendary0ne He SEEMED empathetic. He for sure wasn't. *He IS a MONSTER*

900+ years in prison. Ridiculous. Should have just gotten the chair.

@dylanstolarski6251

Жыл бұрын

It was illegal in the town or city he lived in

@cbarrett34

Жыл бұрын

Wisconsin doesn't have the death penalty

@BamaRockstar85

Ай бұрын

They let the prisoners take care of him

This judge ate this case up saw straight through it all ❤

The fact that's he's so relaxed and calm is pretty scary, it's like he's talking about he did something wrong at school. And that there are a lot of serial killers with a high IQ like Dahmer, is even scarier.

@quawrld_5016

Жыл бұрын

That’s how he always spoken kinda weird

@brandont1746

Жыл бұрын

High IQ? Wasn't his GPA in college like 2.2

@beachstreet101

Жыл бұрын

The fact that he’s so relaxed and calm isn’t scary at all. And that is true studies have shown that many serial killers tend to be highly intelligent. They’d have to be in order to be so meticulous about their killings. What’s scary is that they’re far more intelligent than common folks that sit around commenting all day with judgments and criticisms.

@beachstreet101

Жыл бұрын

@@brandont1746 Ones GPA in school doesn’t determine high intelligence. That just means the person did well in their school classes. Dahmer was drunk in those days and rarely showed up to class, but didn’t mean he wasn’t intelligent. His counselors had even said had he actually showed up he would’ve done exceptionally well.

@mariajoselacayo4364

Жыл бұрын

your iq drops below 2

That poor judge reading all that sentence 😕 deffo one of most incredible cases in criminal history

The fact that my own family would've unalived without blinking or thinking twice

Bloke knew something was messed up in his head, he always said it, he always felt it. And there truly was.

I see so many people sympathize for this man, and to a strange degree, they all apply. He knew he was sick, he knew he did terrible things and he knew he deserved the wrath of the judicial system. A rare find in psychopathic sociopathic murderers.

@callmegary2622

Жыл бұрын

a rare find indeed, while he was definitely a psychopath. I think he lacked characteristics of being a sociopath. He didn't act on rage or anger, he didn't enjoy inflicting pain, he said killing was the least satisfactory part, and he always made sure they were unconscious when he killed them. But also hes psychopathic because he didn't care about them at all, sure he didn't find enjoyment of there suffering, but he was apathetic to there suffering. He willingly drilled holes into peoples head and poured acid to make them life-long sex zombies, where they won't feel any emotions, just there to provide him pleasure. I believe he was an apathetic monster, who knew what he was doing was sick and evil, and tried to abstain from it, but his compulsions was too great, and after a decade he decided to continue killing again and stopped suppressing those feelings.

@lydiag6245

Жыл бұрын

What I want to know is, can a person be completely sane and do what he did?

@SireneKalypso

Жыл бұрын

@@lydiag6245 yes

@FrankDaBank25

Жыл бұрын

@@lydiag6245 @lydia g Yes, Ofcorse. You're seeing it right here. Dahmer was not "clinically insane" by any means. Just a gay man who refused to accept his homosexuality and built a life based around the fascination of human anatomy and gore. That's why he had to watch the exorcism 3 before hand. He knew it was sick and depraved like Call Me Gary said, but like when he was in court, he did what he does best. Hide from those emotions the same way he removed his glasses to avoid victim family testimony. It was all a big lie formulated in his head and the fact he got away with it for so long only intensified his urges.

@bandras97

Жыл бұрын

Except he was not a psychopath. He was closer to being a sociopath but that doesn’t really apply 100% here either. He had feelings (wanting eternal company was his very motivation), something that psychopaths lack. And although he knew what he was doing wasn’t really acceptable when it came to social norms, but he never really acted out or rage or impulse. So in a certain way, he showed signs of both but even psychiatrist that evaluated him he wasn’t really either of those. He just had some really twisted sexual urges and a compulsion so strong I genuinely believe he wasn’t able to help.

Dang Evan ate this role sheesh he embodied everything down to the way Dahmer talked. We are living in perilous times and sad to say this will not be the last time we will see serial killers such a Jeffrey Dahmer if not worse.

@kellycreates3310

Жыл бұрын

Evan and Jeffrey had a very similar voice.

@mariajoselacayo4364

Жыл бұрын

Sounded nothing like Dahmer.

@thegrabber3021

Жыл бұрын

@@mariajoselacayo4364 it doesn’t have to sound EXACTLY

@tylerhudson5299

Жыл бұрын

@@mariajoselacayo4364 idiot

I wish they would've studied the brain to figure out what wires weren't connected.

Why take someone LIFE.

I feel sorry for his dad cos he really must be feeling horrible to hear about all the horrific actions of his son. As a parent it's horrifying to bring your children up with love and then u realize that your child has taken a turn for the worst. May God bless him and help him overcome this nightmare

@kayanehmardi4194

Жыл бұрын

His parents abandoned him

@cristianrojas3285

Жыл бұрын

@@kayanehmardi4194 his dad didn't abandon him, his mom did

@kayanehmardi4194

Жыл бұрын

@@cristianrojas3285 but I watched his movie its both of them?

@renusharamdhin7434

Жыл бұрын

His mum abandoned him. She seemed a bit looney. You could see that she clearly was not all there. She pushed away her husband all the time and was very abusive. Her husband always kept quite and had to walk away just so that she would stop her screaming and abusive behavior. Dahmer never had the perfect family upbringing for sure but u could tell that his dad always stood by his side.

@beefnuts3744

Жыл бұрын

@@renusharamdhin7434 His dad abandoned him for his work. He was never home and he didn’t support Jeffrey once he found out he was gay. Stop spreading false information please.

The judge is very emotional that reflects throughout his speech that he was not really comfortable making the sentence knowing the guy was suffering from a serious illness but he had to give justice to the people victimized. So it's totally very heartbreaking situation.. Rest in peace all the people who were murdered

@sinfulrailwonderer383

Жыл бұрын

Maybe you know, maybe. Judge Gram sure felt the weight he had on his shoulders, however he did say the following "the jury found that a mental disease did not exist, I believe correctly so", therefore I would not say that he thought Dahmer to be insane but he did say that something was definitely wrong with Jeff. Judge Gram was a good judge, really friendly and was well loved by all of the staff in the court room.

@sunnychakraborty9587

Жыл бұрын

@@sinfulrailwonderer383 there was a psycho in India too you know.. His name is jaishankar who turtured and killed more than 30 women and said it gave him pleasure putting them in pain

@sinfulrailwonderer383

Жыл бұрын

@@sunnychakraborty9587 ok, fine, but what does that have to do with either Dahmer or Judge Gram?

@sunnychakraborty9587

Жыл бұрын

@@sinfulrailwonderer383 lol just saying . I mean look at the similarity how much this mental issues escalate to level wherein people start getting fantasies about killing others to get pleasure

@mattish30

11 ай бұрын

? Ya I have to completely disagree with that statement. The judge was likely being a human being and considering the horrific last moments of 14 people's lives. He had likely already imagined the lives of those families and how their suffering couldn't be changed by his sentencing. If I were the judge I'd have the outburst of the victims family in my mind ... to appreciate the impact of what this "person" had done. And then I'd have had to breathe and remain calm and sentence this man ... whos mental state provided no cover for his deeds. A man who knew what he was doing, manipulated others to keep doing it and just as he had in that past ... was likely still trying to prey on good natured people for his own gain. He was not suffering ... he was the creator of suffering. He was sorry ... that he was caught. He would have continued otherwise as we can see from the trail of 14 victims and if at any point he wanted to stop or get help he could have ... but that would require remorse. He wasn't sorry for what he did ... he was just sorry it was ending. So for the judge to sentence him to 14 consecutive life sentences with parole only coming after the first 70 years of each count ... he was showing that even if a parole board 70 yrs from now said let this 90 yr old man out .... that they couldn't free him because he now had to serve the next 70 years. He even took into consideration of advances in technology. That if medical science advanced in a huge leap to allowing people to live to a thousand years that he still wanted this man to be serving in prison .... hundreds of years after his death. Basically .... he masterfully ensured that nothing short of the fall of our government could allow his release. He was so sure of his decision that he structured it in a way that no one .... not even a panel of citizens charged with granting release where they found he was no longer a threat ... not even that panel could undo what he was going to do. A governor was the only person who could release this man....and he knew that sometimes voters elect idiots who make horrible decisions... and his sentence was structured in a way that ... that any governor would not be able to pardon him.....but would have to pardon him 14 times for him to be released. Ensuring time for someone to likely remove that governor for being crazy. He was NOT upset with sentencing a guy who was "suffering" from a serious illness .... he was likely upset that someday someone might question how serious he was about this man never being among us again....so he made it very clear that he was sure what he was doing.

Atleast he had the balls to ask apologize and chose what was right this time. God bless those families ALL of them.

This man was so broken in the head. He had a chance to have a real relationship with someone and still ended up killing him. This is why Borderlines are scary. I was born from one and it is a roller coaster with them. Jeffrey was worse; a Borderline and a Sociopath.

There's a previous clip where the judge kicks back in his recliner and stares at the ceiling (seemingly rolling his eyes/ the ultimate "WTF am I supposed to do with this?"). Jeffery had good traits on the surface but was born so sick (maybe from the insane prescription chemicals his mom was on during pregnancy or he had a brain tumor like some of the other mass murderers they discovered post-mortem) and that's what makes all this so excruciating. I looked up Bath, Ohio on google maps and it's like 20 minutes from the part of Akron OH my parents brought me back to every year since 1977. I wouldn't want to go home for Christmas if I was old enough to know all that... Some posts are hating on the theatrical netflix series but I thought it was good to say the victim's names, learn more about them, who was blowing whistles and who ignored them.

"Come from good families" - how naive and clueless can one be

As much as ive been immeresed in this case, i can truly say there are really people like this. Sane, knows whats right from wrong, yet choose to do the wrong for their own personal reasons (pleasure and other sorts). This is truly a mind opening case on how I view people around the world.

Awesome! Watched it with my mom in 92 definitely will rewatch now that it’s on here!

@zackwild9406

Жыл бұрын

Damn u olddd

@THENAKSHOW

Жыл бұрын

Awesome 😕

@saunderlemarchand6346

Жыл бұрын

Qué edad tenías para verlo en el 92? 😄

@prettyparanormalcassiekayb5498

Жыл бұрын

@@saunderlemarchand6346 I was 9 years old…..why what does that have to do with anything??

@victormoreno3699

Жыл бұрын

Jus like the old days when colonizer European would kill so many native Americans lives

Thank you, Court TV.

how can someone accept their loved one left the earth in this way... 🤢

I don't think he feels bad for the families at all. He showed zero emotion during the impact statements. If I were him, hearing their cries and screams, I would bawl my eyes out. I would've ran out of the courtroom out of shame.

@flightofthebumblebee9529

Жыл бұрын

I disagree. He sat there barely even associated with reality during the impact statements and it seemed like he was utterly ashamed and tried to do all he could to keep anyone from suffering any further.

@sarikajoshi7156

10 ай бұрын

Detective Patrick Kennedy actually said he cried during confession and became unstable that's it took 60 hours to record his whole confession most people who were near him police ,lawyers detective etc all said he was remorseful obviously that will not gonna bring his victim back or he should gone unpunished but to show he was not sadistic monster many people say and was deffinently way different than people like Bundy,gacy,manson or ramiraz

@8luvbug

9 ай бұрын

​@@sarikajoshi7156they all fell for his manipulation. George Palermo was the only one who didn't. Said Jeffrey was narcissistic and didn't show a great deal of remorse and kept going on about lust

@rundie_ale

2 ай бұрын

He's abnormal. Everything about him you see here is abnormal. That's all we can eventually see....

Damn he wanted to devote the rest of his life to help figure out why a serial killer becomes a serial killer and some dumb ass decided to kill him. Think of how much he could have helped in giving cops and psychologist what they needed to save more lives.

@jonfx6768

Жыл бұрын

Many psychologists/psychiatrists analyzed Dahmer before he died yano, and most of them had their theories but no concrete answer was found. Serial killers are complex and most of the time it’s a bunch of different factors all influencing each other that leads to them killing, there’s no straightforward answer

@christopherwalters3320

Жыл бұрын

@@jonfx6768 exactly. Least you understand this more then the judge who thought he killed because he didn’t want anyone to know he was gay lol

@addylovesyou1960

Жыл бұрын

This!!!!!

@christopherwalters3320

Жыл бұрын

@@jonfx6768 i think maybe you didnt fully get the point i was trying to make, it kind of goes with the idea that if you want to find the best way to catch a bank robber, talk to a really experienced bank robber. psychologist and psychiatrist dont know exactly whats going on in every case, miss diagnosis are pretty common and trying to figure out someones mental can be very tricky. like my bipolar disorder, they can map out my symptoms all day but they still dont really have any idea on why a lot of people become bipolar, it would have been nice to have someone that has the illness work with the police for a really long time and they could have kept learning. i read about the brain and psychology all the time and spent a lot of time in hospitals and stuff and im pretty sure they do know a lot but they also dont have a lot figured out. its a ever evolving world, thats why i love it so much. but im not trying to be rude in any way, thats just my perspective on the topic. psychology is my life because if i dont pay attention to it and keep certain knowledge at the forefront of my brain at all time, i could end up landing myself in jail lol

@lexaneli

Жыл бұрын

Full blown narcissist, manipulative psychopath. The fact that he killed all those people and have the heart to say this to show what? So kind and generous after the fact? Please.

He was right the first time when he said that what he was doing was evil not sick. He was sane.

@kytaylor5080

Жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Dahmer would cook his victims and eat them and you think he is sane! If Jeffrey Dahmer doesn't meet the definition of the word insanity! I'd sure like hell hate to run across the individual who is!

@elel4284

Жыл бұрын

he was full of bs

@hia.97

Жыл бұрын

He said he hated killing but couldn't stop himself. Now who knows if it was true. Maybe he was just manipulating all of us to feel bad for him.

@kytaylor5080

Жыл бұрын

@@hia.97 Yeah I'm sure you have a degree in criminology who studies serial killers! 24/7 and we can take anything you say competent! I'm sure you don't so it's incompetent to me good luck to you man!

@nicolaypastore

Жыл бұрын

@@hia.97 Probably didn’t like the killing part but whenever he drank he had some kind of demon that took over. obviously he was possessed and couldn’t stop. He had an alter of satanic things, a satanic Bible and watched exorcist 3 faithfully. That weird and evil af. He gotten pleasure from doing these acts to his victims. He treated them as objects which is very selfishly.

Has to be one of the longest prison sentences ever given in United States.

@hollycabernet

Ай бұрын

i thought so too, until i just discovered the aurora theater shooter in 2012 got over 3,300 years.

Very sad. Very sad for the family to spend prayers to you all. God bless

There are so many more men like him out there that may never get caught always keep your guard up ❗🔥

Whoa, there’s a child in the court 😳

I genuinely can’t bring myself to hate Jeffrey Dahmer. I hate the Milwaukee police of this era far more than I hate him.

What’s crazy is he seems to have some degree of regret and self awareness. Every other famous serial killer either denied their actions or simply had no sense of morality or conscience. Jeff was so messed up but still so different in the way he saw his crimes.

@mariajosemachadolima8610

5 ай бұрын

ted band foi cínico..mentiroso e manipulador até o fim..negou seus crimes até o fim..10 no corredor da morte jurando inocência..só admitiu sua culpa na véspera da execução..nunca demonstrou nenhum arrependimento..nunca pediu perdão as famílias das vítimas...do ted band nunca tive pena, desse aí eu tenho..vejo o vazio..uma tristeza nele..como se ele nem soubesse quem ele é realmente..talvez nunca tenha sido feliz..sempre sozinho..bebendo..procurando alguma coisa que ele nem devia saber o que era. alguém pode realmente acreditar que esse cara ficava feliz por ser assim? tinha alguma cousa dentro dele sim..basta vê a cara do BTK a maldade em pessoa..arrogante..frio..o Jeff você olha e não vê isso..o que se vê é uma pessoa que sabe que tudo acabou..que a vida dele não teve e não vão ter mais sentido..ele viveu numa prisão mental enquanto era livre, agora vai morrer numa prisão perpétua..agora são duas prisões..uma mental é outra física atrás das grades..não vai viver muito..uma dessas vai matar ele. pobre rapaz..ele foi comido por dentro..comer carne de cadáveres, alguém realmente acredita que quem faz isso é completamente normal? quem acha isso talvez tenha que rever seus conceitos pois pode não ser também.. ficar dentro de um apto rodeado de corpos podres pela casa..meu Deus..ele ao matar também se tornou um morto vivo..quando ele morreu o pai chorei muito, mas disse agora acabou..ele vai descansar e vou poder cuidar da saúde da minha mulher que sofreu tanto que está doente.

The story is really a sad one. God please heal the families

@michaelmanwell8477

Жыл бұрын

He doesn't feel bad, there's no emotion there.

@leocardone

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelmanwell8477 cope

@Godiswithme-os5qc

Жыл бұрын

Psalm 32:5 Finally I confessed my sins to you God. I confessed and I stopped trying to hide my guilt and I said to myself "I will confess my rebellion to God" And in you oh God- you forgave me. All my guilt is gone!

Evan Peters did so good with acting like this monster, I can only imagine how hard it must’ve been to play such an evil role. Evan mastered everything from his movements all the way down to how J*ffery spoke.Wishing Evan nothing but the best right now, bc I know that was super difficult to do.

@vl4ke

Жыл бұрын

ty for censoring that mf

@iknowyouvebeenwaiting

Жыл бұрын

Yeah he did that Wisconsin, or rather wescahnsen accent, really well

@joonie_tae.army7

Жыл бұрын

He had to take therapy before and after the role too- it was extremely hard and actually terrifying to inact something a monster did and go through it again.

@BaldMonkeEditz

Жыл бұрын

@@joonie_tae.army7 I’m glad he took therapy

@ophelia9604

9 ай бұрын

​@@joonie_tae.army7how do you know that?!!!