Why Your Vintage Cartier Is Fake and Unsellable.

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Cartier! How do you wear a Cartier? What are the RULES of a Cartier? Why is Christian obsessed with a small square watch? Well...we touch on that rather extensively. Cartier made so few watches for so long that's it's incredible to find a genuine vintage one...but...even if the case is Cartier, the movement is Cartier, and the dial is Cartier...it could still be very much fake. Why? How? Find out today!
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  • @TheoandHarris
    @TheoandHarris Жыл бұрын

    Skip the waitlist and invest in blue-chip art for the very first time by signing up for Masterworks: masterworks.com/s/theoharris

  • @markreynolds9135
    @markreynolds9135 Жыл бұрын

    There is a lot of wiping of noses going on. Coke anyone?

  • @antonylimbouris1992

    @antonylimbouris1992

    Жыл бұрын

    Foooor sure ! Cooooking !

  • @Adskie
    @Adskie Жыл бұрын

    Fellas, love the channel. Topic request. You guys often mention in passing about how wild and different the watch industry used to be in the mid 20th century. I would love to hear your take on the history of it.

  • @amelarti8962

    @amelarti8962

    Жыл бұрын

    Big time

  • @orangehand7929
    @orangehand7929 Жыл бұрын

    Not sure if this was purposeful or not, but funny that you discuss Goldberger and the fake Cartier Crash article by Perezcope in the same episode, but don’t discuss his most recent article exposing one of Goldberger’s most famous watches, the Unicorn Daytona, which sold at Phillips for $6million is a Frankenstein put together with incorrect and potentially fake parts.

  • @rajratansingh2399

    @rajratansingh2399

    Жыл бұрын

    The watch is not fake but, its been restored by Goldberger.. from the screws to the scratches... but not fake..

  • @ethanguiel7699

    @ethanguiel7699

    Жыл бұрын

    You're in luck, theres a Theo and Harris episode on just that

  • @orangehand7929

    @orangehand7929

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ethanguiel7699 yup the one that came after this one!

  • @MDSkai
    @MDSkai Жыл бұрын

    You 2 are a nice morning coffee duo. Good start to a Monday

  • @okfinn1
    @okfinn1 Жыл бұрын

    Hey guys, love the videos, wondering if you could do one on how to settle on a watch while looking. I find myself switching between watches too frequently to end up buying one, and feel like this might be relatable for some

  • @peterb.1273

    @peterb.1273

    Жыл бұрын

    Most relatable comment ever. I have been back and forth for like 2 months and the only reason I haven’t pulled the trigger is because I see so many I like.

  • @bretkindsvatter3574

    @bretkindsvatter3574

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here Finn

  • @mannyprieres7150
    @mannyprieres7150 Жыл бұрын

    This is so interesting! Funny thing, I've heard that Andy Warhol's art has had similar problems. Back in the day of the Warhol Factory, it was rumored that his assistants would make paintings on the side to giveaway or sell to people back door style. The paintings were screen prints, so it was easy to do. They are coming from the legit source but not authorized by the artist. Anyways love the channel and hope all is well.

  • @MaartenAnna

    @MaartenAnna

    Жыл бұрын

    Hell even Rembrandt let his students make paintings in his name.

  • @spslayback
    @spslayback Жыл бұрын

    Take a drink every time one of them touches their noses.

  • @This_is_me_2024
    @This_is_me_2024 Жыл бұрын

    ❄❄Had a big coke binge night?

  • @evano8312
    @evano8312 Жыл бұрын

    Michael, with your comment about the lugs on the Zenith Chronomaster OG was that the 2018 or 2021 version because there is a lug thickness change 🤨

  • @vnctmrn
    @vnctmrn Жыл бұрын

    A LOT of super rare comex and daytonas and all those rare vintage watches you see on instagram are totally frankensteined from real and fake/vietnam parts.

  • @akinigiri
    @akinigiri Жыл бұрын

    I do not know how the 911 looks like well. What is the diff with a carrera? What is the diff with the cayman? I know there is an SUV like one, cayene. My father had a small one and the suv at some point when I was young but I just never got beyond this point.

  • @Rosay__
    @Rosay__ Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting discussion. Curious to hear your thoughts on Perez and the Unicorn…. Thanks guys!

  • @WINDINGCROWNS
    @WINDINGCROWNS Жыл бұрын

    @Michael , your "How Bizarre" comment in the OMC (voice) didn't go unnoticed. 😂

  • @YippeeKiYayMrFalcon
    @YippeeKiYayMrFalcon Жыл бұрын

    It's because you kept saying "Porsh". If you had said "Porsche" (Porsh-uh) she would've been "OH YES! OF COURSE!"

  • @JoeyJiggles
    @JoeyJiggles Жыл бұрын

    That Constellation is amazing!

  • @kylena7533
    @kylena7533 Жыл бұрын

    The intro was hilarious! HOW DO YA NOT KNOW!?!?!

  • @Leby69
    @Leby69 Жыл бұрын

    The Cartier ghost watches are an interesting bunch

  • @MrIcanfly1234
    @MrIcanfly1234 Жыл бұрын

    legendary goldberger and his fake white gold daytona

  • @MrIcanfly1234

    @MrIcanfly1234

    Жыл бұрын

    jose (perezscope) mentioned in a podcast that philips or some auction house offered to hire him and when they wouldnt pull the watches he thought were bullsht he left

  • @CartierCrash

    @CartierCrash

    Жыл бұрын

    Is there any info on this I can find?

  • @MrIcanfly1234

    @MrIcanfly1234

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CartierCrash www.scottishwatches.co.uk/2023/01/09/scottish-watches-podcast-429-fake-rolex-watches-and-exposing-the-auction-world-with-perezcope/?fbclid=PAAabpGoi8JJbgwoWJ4Q8YNbh-eQc1QxlX_u_iv4DNmZ5IlQR-pWeyIpGbXyk He mentions it in this episode

  • @simongoddard8490

    @simongoddard8490

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CartierCrash check out todays Scottish Watches Podcast (episode 429)

  • @CartierCrash

    @CartierCrash

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrIcanfly1234 I just listened whilst at work. That is insane.

  • @m.e.p.r
    @m.e.p.r Жыл бұрын

    I see that Michael purchased a Speedmaster Pro over the holidays. I'm guessing the hesolite version

  • @calvinontime
    @calvinontime Жыл бұрын

    Curious how many under-the-table Cartiers are on Chrono24 right now...

  • @memonion4515
    @memonion4515 Жыл бұрын

    If it's confirmed to be made by a Cartier watchmaker within the Cartier factory who was a friend of another Cartier employee and just sold it off the books then it adds a really cool story to that watch. IMO it makes the watch much more interesting than other crashes that were just commissioned by some rich Cartier clients.

  • @mikelboudica5389
    @mikelboudica5389 Жыл бұрын

    by minute 3:00 the blond guy has touched his nose around 10 times and the guy with glasses about 3. They messed up by mentioning that in the last episode, now is just impossible not to get annoyed by it.

  • @bjoernaltmann
    @bjoernaltmann Жыл бұрын

    Under no circumstances would a real Cartier have cast hallmarks. Casting hallmarks is a crime in any case. In the UK, precious metal items over a certain weight have to be sent to an Assay Office - London in this instance - to be hallmarked. It cannot be done by anyone else or in a different manner.

  • @augieonorato2377
    @augieonorato2377 Жыл бұрын

    Blackberry Gingerale, that is a classy choice

  • @user-fi5fr9us2t
    @user-fi5fr9us2t Жыл бұрын

    Finally an interesting show, no bashing! YEY! Follow this line...

  • @Uprightwatches
    @Uprightwatches Жыл бұрын

    I heard since the vintage market is so valuable that other countries are making vintage watches and I think that’s what’s happening with a lot of them when we say I’ve never seen this type before or so many flaws I think they’re making fake ones over seas especially very expensive ones but of course it’s not gonna turn out right

  • @omar10213245

    @omar10213245

    Жыл бұрын

    i have a vintage Calatrava made by the government of Mozambique. It's godawful.

  • @dimman77
    @dimman77 Жыл бұрын

    Allegedly Jose did have a background in replica/counterfeit Panerai way back in the day...

  • @44daggers44
    @44daggers44 Жыл бұрын

    Shout out to Anna! How is she doing these days?

  • @44daggers44

    @44daggers44

    Жыл бұрын

    Ps the blue john mayer Casio is awesome :)

  • @BonnerRepublik
    @BonnerRepublik Жыл бұрын

    Check out the Scottish Watches podcast with Perezcope that came out today (January 9).

  • @watchcurtisn
    @watchcurtisn Жыл бұрын

    That GMT is everything...

  • @rickjason215
    @rickjason215 Жыл бұрын

    No minimum on the bidding? There are hundreds of parts that can be compared to known Cartiers.

  • @youeverseethesehandsfly5334
    @youeverseethesehandsfly5334 Жыл бұрын

    People who's entire body language revolves around the watch on their wrist, cannot be trusted.

  • @stevelangsdorf7307
    @stevelangsdorf7307 Жыл бұрын

    Christian, how many tries did it take to get that exact fold in your jacket collar for the fake casual look, just saying 🤔

  • @Joyhappyfree
    @Joyhappyfree Жыл бұрын

    How we looking on those podcasts boys? You could probably just use the audio from your videos and upload them 😉 t

  • @samstraughan9054
    @samstraughan9054 Жыл бұрын

    I'm reminded of fake Vemeer's that were auctioned and sold as authentic for some period of time...Now it is the case that these fakes are themselves collectible, and fetch quite a premium, simply because they were accepted for so long as real...the 'artist' became collectible as the creator of the fakes.

  • @JeanSuki

    @JeanSuki

    Жыл бұрын

    Mind you, the story of Han van Meegeren who painted the fakes is also super interesting. He had too prove in court that he could paint the fakes, because he was charged with selling Vermeers to N*zi Germany.

  • @zulu6ix290
    @zulu6ix290 Жыл бұрын

    Micheal - oh a new scene… better rubs my nose 1000 times

  • @watchingu83

    @watchingu83

    Жыл бұрын

    So F’n annoying. Can’t even watch the episode watching him wipe his nose like a coke head the entire 30 minute video. RIDICULOUS

  • @drfranke
    @drfranke Жыл бұрын

    STOP PICKING YOUR NOSE!!

  • @TheoandHarris

    @TheoandHarris

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s itchy

  • @gislisnbjornsson690
    @gislisnbjornsson690 Жыл бұрын

    WHAT IS UP WITH THE NOSE TOUCHING!!!!!

  • @gluon8760
    @gluon8760 Жыл бұрын

    Guys , I really like you. You are so funny 😂

  • @jthink1984
    @jthink1984 Жыл бұрын

    Saw a guy in the gym yesterday wearing a gold Tank Louis on alligator strap. Fuckin legendary.

  • @Fitzi9r
    @Fitzi9r Жыл бұрын

    I love this channel. This is quickly becoming my favorite thing to watch on KZread.

  • @Peter-2704
    @Peter-2704 Жыл бұрын

    Perezcope made an appearance on today's Scottish Watches Podcast. Check it out.

  • @Arc1517
    @Arc1517 Жыл бұрын

    Christian has the WG Pepsi warmed you up to modern sports watches at all?

  • @SelectBlendHAF
    @SelectBlendHAF Жыл бұрын

    Love the show. Could you guys stop hitting the table or move the mic? Really love the show again.

  • @300IQPUG
    @300IQPUG Жыл бұрын

    Christian is whats EVERYTHING wrong with the watch world

  • @jamesnewton3739
    @jamesnewton3739 Жыл бұрын

    Love the jacket Christian, Where is it from?

  • @nourineahmed5462

    @nourineahmed5462

    Жыл бұрын

    Huckberry

  • @Dr.K-MD.DMD.
    @Dr.K-MD.DMD. Жыл бұрын

    Vacheron does custom watches

  • @thewatchbro
    @thewatchbro Жыл бұрын

    It's true. I bought a fake one from ebay without knowing it was fake. I sent it in for authentication and they came back and said "sorry." This was before the bay guarantee though. So I gave it to my 9 year old lol

  • @Joe-xo3xy
    @Joe-xo3xy Жыл бұрын

    concerning Goldberger: I will like to differentiate between a merchant and a collector; No way did Goldberger spend a load of money on watches simply for a recreational purpose. I do think ppl who collect to purposely sell are not collectors

  • @dude...are-you-sure
    @dude...are-you-sure Жыл бұрын

    I can understand why Anna don't know what Porsche is. She has absolutely no interest in cars except as a form of transportation. Now if it were watches then it'll be different. Lol

  • @russellis6993
    @russellis6993 Жыл бұрын

    Unicorn fake Daytona elephant in the room with Goldberger ...

  • @mozangeles631
    @mozangeles631 Жыл бұрын

    Damn … beat me to it 😒

  • @mydentalhouse
    @mydentalhouse Жыл бұрын

    Lay off the white coffee guys..

  • @MaartenAnna
    @MaartenAnna Жыл бұрын

    S#$% my father in law owns a tank, we need to up the insurance... 😉

  • @samuelburton5576
    @samuelburton5576 Жыл бұрын

    ????!!!!! Really

  • @TheDryDown
    @TheDryDown Жыл бұрын

    Please turn in your watch douche cards for not referring to him as Auro Montanari :) nice episode gents.

  • @juanfelipemv
    @juanfelipemv Жыл бұрын

    Which one of these clowns is Theo and which one is Harris ?

  • @rudyvasquez3917

    @rudyvasquez3917

    Жыл бұрын

    Rofl!!!

  • @Bleppity
    @Bleppity Жыл бұрын

    Masterworks is a very high risk investment vehicle.

  • @imjulesgabriel
    @imjulesgabriel Жыл бұрын

    The Porsche story would hold up better if any of them knew how to pronounce Cartier. Shes not interested in cars, hes not interested in language/words.

  • @stevelangsdorf7307
    @stevelangsdorf7307 Жыл бұрын

    Michael, I am really enjoying watching you become the Alpha right before our very 👀 eyes.

  • @nathanf1934

    @nathanf1934

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha neither are Alpha!

  • @stevelangsdorf7307

    @stevelangsdorf7307

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nathanf1934 I didn't say was I said become, and you are right they are both Beta's

  • @mikelboudica5389

    @mikelboudica5389

    Жыл бұрын

    you mean the top?

  • @67whitegoat4
    @67whitegoat4 Жыл бұрын

    I’m sorry, you don’t know what a 911 is!? We’re done. I can’t be with you anymore.

  • @Benzo1818
    @Benzo1818 Жыл бұрын

    WTF is always going on with them rubbing. picking & itching their noses???...God Damn!?🤨

  • @omar10213245

    @omar10213245

    Жыл бұрын

    nose candy for breakfast makes for an itchy afternoon. . .

  • @foodie1986
    @foodie19862 ай бұрын

    that cartier would be worth so much more.

  • @christopherhoglund4962
    @christopherhoglund4962 Жыл бұрын

    …the same way we don’t notice a new haircut or shoes.

  • @maripetluk
    @maripetluk5 ай бұрын

    You could be more interesting. If you were not what you are. But the fact that I'm watching you two right now is not speaking in my favour. So keep on rolling!

  • @gabrielw7929
    @gabrielw7929 Жыл бұрын

    I enjoy the channel… air purifier sponsor pronto, to clear the allergens.

  • @AceAlvarezNYC
    @AceAlvarezNYC Жыл бұрын

    I would’ve broken up with her on the spot 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @artteelange5045
    @artteelange5045 Жыл бұрын

    Who's Theo and who's Harris?

  • @rudyvasquez3917

    @rudyvasquez3917

    Жыл бұрын

    I love this comment lol

  • @omar10213245

    @omar10213245

    Жыл бұрын

    Harris is the one in glasses. Not sure who Theo is, unless he's talking about the son on the Cosby show.

  • @rudyvasquez3917

    @rudyvasquez3917

    Жыл бұрын

    @@omar10213245 this guy lmao hahahaha

  • @jameskearney1185
    @jameskearney1185 Жыл бұрын

    Ayo the 911 is the best car ever

  • @danryan4137
    @danryan4137 Жыл бұрын

    If she hasn’t seen a Mini Cooper……Dump her😂

  • @birkrum4630
    @birkrum4630 Жыл бұрын

    Perez did it on purpose to get a chrash for less than 400k

  • @greggoodrich7161
    @greggoodrich7161 Жыл бұрын

    Drinking game: drink every time Jeff and Mutt scratch their noses. Shotgun if they start scratching each other’s noses.

  • @omar10213245

    @omar10213245

    Жыл бұрын

    cocaine can be itchy

  • @BBGinCDM

    @BBGinCDM

    Жыл бұрын

    Thinking exact same. That ain't a cold. And pure distraction from otherwise great video.

  • @fark69
    @fark69 Жыл бұрын

    I'd hate to be a girl dating the tan one. You'd have to hear him talk about cars and watches all the time and if you don't know as much about these things as some basement dwelling moderator of the carsandwatches subreddit he doesn't talk to you the rest of dinner. Yikes

  • @BAF605

    @BAF605

    Жыл бұрын

    I think they both bat for the other team.😉😉

  • @nathanf1934

    @nathanf1934

    Жыл бұрын

    I honestly thought they were together.

  • @Adskie

    @Adskie

    Жыл бұрын

    Well aren’t y’all a bunch of negative wankers 🙂

  • @matthewteh2000
    @matthewteh2000 Жыл бұрын

    first view dang

  • @defenderwhatsright7863
    @defenderwhatsright7863 Жыл бұрын

    the stories and content is fine but can you stop picking your nose and eating on cam its pretty grubby , relaying to viewers your personal hygiene is below par . Also don't spit out your drink on cam please ? ! 🙄

  • @FrankieJames14
    @FrankieJames14 Жыл бұрын

    Dear Theo, I had to stop watching because you literally picked your nose… I mean you always mess with your nose ( which annoyed me always) but in this vid I threw up in my mouth.

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