Why Your Vintage Cartier Is Fake and Unsellable.
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Cartier! How do you wear a Cartier? What are the RULES of a Cartier? Why is Christian obsessed with a small square watch? Well...we touch on that rather extensively. Cartier made so few watches for so long that's it's incredible to find a genuine vintage one...but...even if the case is Cartier, the movement is Cartier, and the dial is Cartier...it could still be very much fake. Why? How? Find out today!
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There is a lot of wiping of noses going on. Coke anyone?
@antonylimbouris1992
Жыл бұрын
Foooor sure ! Cooooking !
Fellas, love the channel. Topic request. You guys often mention in passing about how wild and different the watch industry used to be in the mid 20th century. I would love to hear your take on the history of it.
@amelarti8962
Жыл бұрын
Big time
Not sure if this was purposeful or not, but funny that you discuss Goldberger and the fake Cartier Crash article by Perezcope in the same episode, but don’t discuss his most recent article exposing one of Goldberger’s most famous watches, the Unicorn Daytona, which sold at Phillips for $6million is a Frankenstein put together with incorrect and potentially fake parts.
@rajratansingh2399
Жыл бұрын
The watch is not fake but, its been restored by Goldberger.. from the screws to the scratches... but not fake..
@ethanguiel7699
Жыл бұрын
You're in luck, theres a Theo and Harris episode on just that
@orangehand7929
Жыл бұрын
@@ethanguiel7699 yup the one that came after this one!
You 2 are a nice morning coffee duo. Good start to a Monday
Hey guys, love the videos, wondering if you could do one on how to settle on a watch while looking. I find myself switching between watches too frequently to end up buying one, and feel like this might be relatable for some
@peterb.1273
Жыл бұрын
Most relatable comment ever. I have been back and forth for like 2 months and the only reason I haven’t pulled the trigger is because I see so many I like.
@bretkindsvatter3574
Жыл бұрын
Same here Finn
This is so interesting! Funny thing, I've heard that Andy Warhol's art has had similar problems. Back in the day of the Warhol Factory, it was rumored that his assistants would make paintings on the side to giveaway or sell to people back door style. The paintings were screen prints, so it was easy to do. They are coming from the legit source but not authorized by the artist. Anyways love the channel and hope all is well.
@MaartenAnna
Жыл бұрын
Hell even Rembrandt let his students make paintings in his name.
Take a drink every time one of them touches their noses.
❄❄Had a big coke binge night?
Michael, with your comment about the lugs on the Zenith Chronomaster OG was that the 2018 or 2021 version because there is a lug thickness change 🤨
A LOT of super rare comex and daytonas and all those rare vintage watches you see on instagram are totally frankensteined from real and fake/vietnam parts.
I do not know how the 911 looks like well. What is the diff with a carrera? What is the diff with the cayman? I know there is an SUV like one, cayene. My father had a small one and the suv at some point when I was young but I just never got beyond this point.
Very interesting discussion. Curious to hear your thoughts on Perez and the Unicorn…. Thanks guys!
@Michael , your "How Bizarre" comment in the OMC (voice) didn't go unnoticed. 😂
It's because you kept saying "Porsh". If you had said "Porsche" (Porsh-uh) she would've been "OH YES! OF COURSE!"
That Constellation is amazing!
The intro was hilarious! HOW DO YA NOT KNOW!?!?!
The Cartier ghost watches are an interesting bunch
legendary goldberger and his fake white gold daytona
@MrIcanfly1234
Жыл бұрын
jose (perezscope) mentioned in a podcast that philips or some auction house offered to hire him and when they wouldnt pull the watches he thought were bullsht he left
@CartierCrash
Жыл бұрын
Is there any info on this I can find?
@MrIcanfly1234
Жыл бұрын
@@CartierCrash www.scottishwatches.co.uk/2023/01/09/scottish-watches-podcast-429-fake-rolex-watches-and-exposing-the-auction-world-with-perezcope/?fbclid=PAAabpGoi8JJbgwoWJ4Q8YNbh-eQc1QxlX_u_iv4DNmZ5IlQR-pWeyIpGbXyk He mentions it in this episode
@simongoddard8490
Жыл бұрын
@@CartierCrash check out todays Scottish Watches Podcast (episode 429)
@CartierCrash
Жыл бұрын
@@MrIcanfly1234 I just listened whilst at work. That is insane.
I see that Michael purchased a Speedmaster Pro over the holidays. I'm guessing the hesolite version
Curious how many under-the-table Cartiers are on Chrono24 right now...
If it's confirmed to be made by a Cartier watchmaker within the Cartier factory who was a friend of another Cartier employee and just sold it off the books then it adds a really cool story to that watch. IMO it makes the watch much more interesting than other crashes that were just commissioned by some rich Cartier clients.
by minute 3:00 the blond guy has touched his nose around 10 times and the guy with glasses about 3. They messed up by mentioning that in the last episode, now is just impossible not to get annoyed by it.
Under no circumstances would a real Cartier have cast hallmarks. Casting hallmarks is a crime in any case. In the UK, precious metal items over a certain weight have to be sent to an Assay Office - London in this instance - to be hallmarked. It cannot be done by anyone else or in a different manner.
Blackberry Gingerale, that is a classy choice
Finally an interesting show, no bashing! YEY! Follow this line...
I heard since the vintage market is so valuable that other countries are making vintage watches and I think that’s what’s happening with a lot of them when we say I’ve never seen this type before or so many flaws I think they’re making fake ones over seas especially very expensive ones but of course it’s not gonna turn out right
@omar10213245
Жыл бұрын
i have a vintage Calatrava made by the government of Mozambique. It's godawful.
Allegedly Jose did have a background in replica/counterfeit Panerai way back in the day...
Shout out to Anna! How is she doing these days?
@44daggers44
Жыл бұрын
Ps the blue john mayer Casio is awesome :)
Check out the Scottish Watches podcast with Perezcope that came out today (January 9).
That GMT is everything...
No minimum on the bidding? There are hundreds of parts that can be compared to known Cartiers.
People who's entire body language revolves around the watch on their wrist, cannot be trusted.
Christian, how many tries did it take to get that exact fold in your jacket collar for the fake casual look, just saying 🤔
How we looking on those podcasts boys? You could probably just use the audio from your videos and upload them 😉 t
I'm reminded of fake Vemeer's that were auctioned and sold as authentic for some period of time...Now it is the case that these fakes are themselves collectible, and fetch quite a premium, simply because they were accepted for so long as real...the 'artist' became collectible as the creator of the fakes.
@JeanSuki
Жыл бұрын
Mind you, the story of Han van Meegeren who painted the fakes is also super interesting. He had too prove in court that he could paint the fakes, because he was charged with selling Vermeers to N*zi Germany.
Micheal - oh a new scene… better rubs my nose 1000 times
@watchingu83
Жыл бұрын
So F’n annoying. Can’t even watch the episode watching him wipe his nose like a coke head the entire 30 minute video. RIDICULOUS
STOP PICKING YOUR NOSE!!
@TheoandHarris
Жыл бұрын
It’s itchy
WHAT IS UP WITH THE NOSE TOUCHING!!!!!
Guys , I really like you. You are so funny 😂
Saw a guy in the gym yesterday wearing a gold Tank Louis on alligator strap. Fuckin legendary.
I love this channel. This is quickly becoming my favorite thing to watch on KZread.
Perezcope made an appearance on today's Scottish Watches Podcast. Check it out.
Christian has the WG Pepsi warmed you up to modern sports watches at all?
Love the show. Could you guys stop hitting the table or move the mic? Really love the show again.
Christian is whats EVERYTHING wrong with the watch world
Love the jacket Christian, Where is it from?
@nourineahmed5462
Жыл бұрын
Huckberry
Vacheron does custom watches
It's true. I bought a fake one from ebay without knowing it was fake. I sent it in for authentication and they came back and said "sorry." This was before the bay guarantee though. So I gave it to my 9 year old lol
concerning Goldberger: I will like to differentiate between a merchant and a collector; No way did Goldberger spend a load of money on watches simply for a recreational purpose. I do think ppl who collect to purposely sell are not collectors
I can understand why Anna don't know what Porsche is. She has absolutely no interest in cars except as a form of transportation. Now if it were watches then it'll be different. Lol
Unicorn fake Daytona elephant in the room with Goldberger ...
Damn … beat me to it 😒
Lay off the white coffee guys..
S#$% my father in law owns a tank, we need to up the insurance... 😉
????!!!!! Really
Please turn in your watch douche cards for not referring to him as Auro Montanari :) nice episode gents.
Which one of these clowns is Theo and which one is Harris ?
@rudyvasquez3917
Жыл бұрын
Rofl!!!
Masterworks is a very high risk investment vehicle.
The Porsche story would hold up better if any of them knew how to pronounce Cartier. Shes not interested in cars, hes not interested in language/words.
Michael, I am really enjoying watching you become the Alpha right before our very 👀 eyes.
@nathanf1934
Жыл бұрын
Haha neither are Alpha!
@stevelangsdorf7307
Жыл бұрын
@@nathanf1934 I didn't say was I said become, and you are right they are both Beta's
@mikelboudica5389
Жыл бұрын
you mean the top?
I’m sorry, you don’t know what a 911 is!? We’re done. I can’t be with you anymore.
WTF is always going on with them rubbing. picking & itching their noses???...God Damn!?🤨
@omar10213245
Жыл бұрын
nose candy for breakfast makes for an itchy afternoon. . .
that cartier would be worth so much more.
…the same way we don’t notice a new haircut or shoes.
You could be more interesting. If you were not what you are. But the fact that I'm watching you two right now is not speaking in my favour. So keep on rolling!
I enjoy the channel… air purifier sponsor pronto, to clear the allergens.
I would’ve broken up with her on the spot 🤷🏻♂️
Who's Theo and who's Harris?
@rudyvasquez3917
Жыл бұрын
I love this comment lol
@omar10213245
Жыл бұрын
Harris is the one in glasses. Not sure who Theo is, unless he's talking about the son on the Cosby show.
@rudyvasquez3917
Жыл бұрын
@@omar10213245 this guy lmao hahahaha
Ayo the 911 is the best car ever
If she hasn’t seen a Mini Cooper……Dump her😂
Perez did it on purpose to get a chrash for less than 400k
Drinking game: drink every time Jeff and Mutt scratch their noses. Shotgun if they start scratching each other’s noses.
@omar10213245
Жыл бұрын
cocaine can be itchy
@BBGinCDM
Жыл бұрын
Thinking exact same. That ain't a cold. And pure distraction from otherwise great video.
I'd hate to be a girl dating the tan one. You'd have to hear him talk about cars and watches all the time and if you don't know as much about these things as some basement dwelling moderator of the carsandwatches subreddit he doesn't talk to you the rest of dinner. Yikes
@BAF605
Жыл бұрын
I think they both bat for the other team.😉😉
@nathanf1934
Жыл бұрын
I honestly thought they were together.
@Adskie
Жыл бұрын
Well aren’t y’all a bunch of negative wankers 🙂
first view dang
the stories and content is fine but can you stop picking your nose and eating on cam its pretty grubby , relaying to viewers your personal hygiene is below par . Also don't spit out your drink on cam please ? ! 🙄
Dear Theo, I had to stop watching because you literally picked your nose… I mean you always mess with your nose ( which annoyed me always) but in this vid I threw up in my mouth.