Why you shouldn't swap an 03-06 dash into your 00-02 Yukon/Tahoe for a double DIN

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I do not recommend swapping your 2000-2002 Yukon Dash Bezel and radio cage to install a double din head unit... and this is why...
A couple of things I realize I failed to include: The cost of the dash bezel and bucket for the 03 + truck ran me $80 + $40 shipping on the dash bezel, and $30+5 shipping on the bucket. The install kit was purchased with my head unit and a pretty steep discount was included by Crutchfield so the Metra kit added onto my head unit purchase was LESS than just the parts from the 03 truck I ordered from a scrap yard (as there were non near me in good shape in the color I needed).
To make it fit and keep the factory outlet cover door usable, I would either have had to add the cost of or fabricated a space or cut up the bezel further. To make the HVAC controls fit, I would have either had to further cut the controls, the opening for the controls or the radio bucket (potentially all 3)
A swap is not impossible. In my opinion with the combined cost of parts, time and effort + potential tool purchase (bits or grinding wheels etc) involved in fabricating the radio bucket from an 03 or the dash bezel if you try and use your 02 and older bucket just wasn't worth the ease and cleanliness of the install with the metra kit (For the overwhelming majority that is, but if you wanted a more clean look and a custom job that an enthusiast can appreciate the swap is definitely possible, it's just a bit more involved than a simple afternoon install.
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Parts I recommend for this install:
Pioneer AVH-W4400NEX (resistance screen): amzn.to/2XZ0wBA
or...
Pioneer AVIC-W8500NEX (capacitive screen): amzn.to/2F9G5cE1
Yukon Double DIN Dash Kit: amzn.to/2TEKXk5
88-2005 GM Wiring Harness: amzn.to/2T7YpYt
Antenna Adapter: amzn.to/2uc0BV2

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  • @beaugranbois
    @beaugranbois4 жыл бұрын

    Dang. Those two rivets kicked your ass. Two and a half minutes of your seven minute video

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    They took the longest out of every individual step, and while I could have time lapsed them to be much shorter I felt that having them take up more time than other steps was representative of the task vs other pieces of the job. I did try tapping them out with my punch set, but I only had one that was small enough to fit in the center, but it wasn't very long, and there isn't a lot of great ways to swing a hammer inside the cab while filming either.

  • @brianmellard5886
    @brianmellard58864 жыл бұрын

    Why would the hvac controller not fit? I’m getting ready to do this to my truck. Other than the 99-02 hvac controller being rounded what was wrong?

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    The shape of the bucket for the newer trucks is meant for a small HVAC control unit as they switched to automatic climate control in the newer trucks. To swap to a newer set of controls you would need to replace significantly more. I'm sure it can be done, but would likely require one or more computers, sensors and wiring harness components from a newer truck also. The back side of the HVAC controller is too large to fit the 03+ bucket, and if you modify it to fit you lose the mounting points for the HVAC controller. I don't think it's worth swapping because of how much the modification costs to install a head unit vs just buying one of the available after market kits designed for the 2000-2002 bodies. It just makes more sense time and $$ wise.

  • @zynnertime1
    @zynnertime14 жыл бұрын

    Could you put a 03-06 HVAC control in there instead or will it not plug in due to year and manufacturing differences??

  • @bigchungus7720

    @bigchungus7720

    4 жыл бұрын

    🤯🤔

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    Potentially. However the HVAC controls from the 03-06 are not directly compatible with the climate controls for the 02 and older trucks. So it would probably be a very involved swap including potential BCM or wiring harness updates. After I found out the control modules weren't compatible, my interest in the additional costs with making an 03 factory dash work ended because the cost and or fabrication efforts needed were more than I was willing to put in vs just buying the aftermarket double din kit for O2 and older trucks.

  • @maisielerch7416
    @maisielerch74163 жыл бұрын

    Is swapping the bucket nessacary for fitting the bezel piece? I have a 01 1500 that has a double din installed but my factory bezel had to be modified and just want it to look more factory with a trim piece from a 03-07 made for the double din radio

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    If I recall correctly the opening of the 03+ bezel doesn't line up correctly with the bucket from the prior years of the GMT800 dash. However, I would recommend you check out the Scosche double din dash kit ( amzn.to/3vA038G ), it looks almost identical to the factory dash. The Scosche kit wasn't available when I originally did my install, but I found out about it, and that it was a close color and texture match to the original, I decided to get one and try it myself. I'll be doing a comparison video at some point in the near future about each of those dashes, but I have a bit of a more pressing problem with the truck that I'm making a video about first :D

  • @BigZu423

    @BigZu423

    2 жыл бұрын

    u can but you would have to drop you ac regardless. i have mine in rn with the 03 bezel and it fits. but i have a big gap under my ac controls. and my ash tray doesnt open all the way and neither does my charging ports

  • @michaelsbehnke98
    @michaelsbehnke982 жыл бұрын

    So can you use the 03 bezel with the metra bucket kit and stock ac controller? What is the difference between the aftermarket bezel and the 03 bezel?

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Metra and Scosche kits don't include a bucket as you don't need one, you just need the hardware that holds the head unit in place (included in both Scosche and Metra kits), the larger bezel to accommodate the double din display/headunit, and typically those kits also include the wiring harness and the antenna extension as well (or at least the Scosche did when I bought it). The 03+ and Aftermarket bezel for the earlier GMT800's are designed for a different bucket (the area the radio mounts to) so the alignments will be a bit different. I never tried uzing the 03+ bezel with the rest of the metra hardware as it already included the bezel from Metra . My .02. Order the Scosche kit ( amzn.to/3EN7L55 ) make sure you select the same color as your factory dash and use that. It looks close enough to the factory I'd be there are small percentage of people who could spot the difference without being told there is one.

  • @nmartin5551
    @nmartin55514 ай бұрын

    Hi Driver J! I spent the. Morning at the pull yard. Not a single dash bezel to be seen across more than 6 GMtrucks of the right age. Found some other stuff though. So the Scoshe kit - are you suggesting the whole thing, or just the double DIN bucket? I saw several people talking about cutting their 00-02 dash bezels and making it work….

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    4 ай бұрын

    I'd buy the whole kit. Hacking up the dash so you can't go back to stock isn't my style. If you aren't great with a dremel or rotary wheel or want to be able to return to stock if you sell or decide to go a different direction a full dash kit is the best way. If you don't mind more work, and hare handy enough with a rotary wheel and some other tools you can definitely go the more custom route. There isn't anythingg wrong with either choice, but there are trade offs.

  • @nmartin5551

    @nmartin5551

    4 ай бұрын

    @@DriverJsGarage Thanks for reply. My 01 silverado came to me with a salvage title for under $5K about 4 years ago. It has cost me almost nothing since then (except tires and the AC repair - I live in central NC), so I have no plan to part with it ever. Until I’m too decrepit to do the stuff one usually needs a truck to do. Engine seems strong, I fully expect to have to rebuild the transmission eventually, but IMO so worth it for such a great truck for almost no money every year. Today’s trucks cost more than the first house I bought. Don’t fit in a parking space. I’ll pass on that.

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    4 ай бұрын

    Totally get it. I got my Yukon in trade for an S10 I used to have, when I outgrew the S10 (2 kids), and Same outside of brakes, tires and insurance, it's not been expensive. And I'm sure a new truck wouldn't right away either, but... that comes with that extra monthly payment. don't get me wrong. I'd love to own a TRX or Raptor, but I just don't see it as an expense I want for how often I use it.

  • @eduardoolvera1000
    @eduardoolvera10004 жыл бұрын

    After buying the aftermarket dash bezel, what else do you have to modify to fit the double din?

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    With the aftermarket bezel kit you should get the mounting hardware to lock the head unit into the bucket as well (it's just clips that attach to the head unit). Then depending on the depth of the head unit you might need to cut one of the rear supports behind the bucket). This isn't required for all installs only deeper head units.

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/nIKY0aZwZc7afps.html should help you as well.

  • @eduardoolvera1000

    @eduardoolvera1000

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks alot!

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@eduardoolvera1000 You're welcome.

  • @ughievox2513
    @ughievox25134 жыл бұрын

    Great Job, at 01:10 & 02:10 a tip is to use a center punch and hit the rivet with a hammer, it will push the rivet out and free up the casing.

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    That is normally the easiest/best way to knock out rivets. In the video you'll actually notice I changed shirts between when I get everything out of the way, to when I start using the rotary tool to grind the heads off. This is because it was different days/takes. In the first take I was trying to knock them out with a punch but I could not get them to budge, but I was also blocking the shot too much to have it be a viable part of the video. After struggling with it for a while I gave up as it was getting late and went to sleep. Great tip none the less and I probably should have done a cut to talk about it and why I chose to grind instead.

  • @daniel909mendoza9
    @daniel909mendoza929 күн бұрын

    Just to be sure. This also applies to 99-02 silverados?

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    26 күн бұрын

    Correct, those were part of the GMT800 platform as well. I would suspect that if there are any differences in the pickups vs the SUVs it'll be minimal.

  • @georgeendres762
    @georgeendres7624 жыл бұрын

    Same with 02 denali?

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    Are you asking if you shouldn't do the dash swap for an 03+ dash? or if the install steps/parts are the same?

  • @georgeendres762

    @georgeendres762

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DriverJsGarage if it's the same?

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    It should be the same installation steps for the 02, I know for sure the dash changed in 03, which just makes the parts you need different otherwise steps are mostly the same.

  • @angelc7984
    @angelc79842 жыл бұрын

    What’s the difference between the 01 and the 03, please explain?

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    The 03 - 06 trucks have a double din bezel from the factory, the bucket (radio mounting location inside the dash) is different which means different mounting hardware. The size of the bezel is larger to accomadate a double din radio from the factory, however this blocks the charging ports and ash tray from being accessible without removing the door or modifying the bezel. Additionally if you use the 03 bucket it makes it so the earlier HVAC controls can't be mounted and the 03 plus HVAC controls aren't compatible with the BCM as in the earlier trucks as far as I know since the 03 + have the climate control system (can't think of the name) and not the dials that the earlier trucks have.

  • @angelc7984

    @angelc7984

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DriverJsGarage I have a 2001 yukon and the top of the dash is cracking, do you think the 2003 model would fit? Is it the same? The top part where the sensor is.?

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've never checked fitment on those personally. My recommendation is searching Car-Part.com to find the part you need if you want a used part. But, I did some quick google-fu and found dash skin, so I would assume they are interchangeable, but I have no direct experience with that part to say for sure. Here is the link for dashskin for you to check out. dashskin.com/2000-2006-chevy-gmc-suv-99-06-pickup-molded-dash-cover#143=149

  • @xDistracted
    @xDistracted2 жыл бұрын

    Yup! Tried it and had the same problems, all I did was cleanly cut out the dimensions that I needed extra to fit my stereo out of the lip that would go around the stock stereo and it looks good and performs perfect

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    I didn't try fitment with the stock 2001 Bucket, I actually swapped both the bucket and bezel. The issue I ran into was with the 03+ bucket needing heavy modification or the controls requiring heavy modification. There are lots of work arounds that I could have done, but for the annoyance of wasting that extra time, the commercially available double din kit was a better choice.

  • @kensulzen3654
    @kensulzen36543 жыл бұрын

    I changed the basket & bezel in my 01 Silverado,little bit of work, but it came out good. I did it before the Metra kit came out, I would go with the kit if I had to do it again.

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly I can be done and can look ok, but isn’t the best way IMO

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also I’ve recently switched to the Scosche kit which looks much better than the metra

  • @jacksmith3189
    @jacksmith31894 жыл бұрын

    Good information Thanks

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    You're welcome. I saw a lot of people quoting steps on how to do this job on forums, and after actually taking things a part very little of that information was accurate.

  • @mooneyglock7325
    @mooneyglock73252 жыл бұрын

    That’s a 7inc in dash ?

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah the Head Unit I installed was a 4400NEX from Pioneer, 7" Double din.

  • @mooneyglock7325

    @mooneyglock7325

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DriverJsGarage okay thanks

  • @marshall2368
    @marshall23683 жыл бұрын

    For anybody who is planning on doing this. You don’t have to cut off the bottom left screw hole. You can actually just cut the radio cage where it hits it. And still use the screw hole. Also. If you have an ashtray i took the plastic off of mine with a philips screwdriver and it still hits the bezel when i try to open it. So if u wanna keep the ashtray you probably have to shave a very slim piece off the bottom of the bezel which is what i might do. Also my bezel was wedged up against the button on the left side of the climate control and was pressing it down so i had to shave a little off and u can’t even tell and the button is free now. I might just shave that whole side of the climate control hole so it will fit the climate control better. And instead of braking the clips off of the climate control, just shave them down and make them flat so you can use them as your spacers. Update- i looked at the left side of the climate control hole on the bezel, and it looks like if you try to shave the side of it down it will leave a much bigger gap. it isn’t flat where it meets the climate control. It curves in to meet it.

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    There are A LOT of little things you have to do to actually use the factory 03-06 dashes in the earlier truck which is IMO exactly why the effort isn't worth it for most people. For reference, what I was cutting is the back side of the bucket as the head unit I had wouldn't fit into 03-06 bucket with out cutting that bit off (some others may). I've been going back and forth if I should do a 3rd video on this project and actually go over what all is involved, because as you mention you have to do even more trimming to get to the ash tray and the 'cigarette lighter' plug bank once you do it as well, as those drawers/doors don't work perfectly with the newer bezel either. I also like your idea about just shaving/trimming the clips down. Thanks for one of the few comments that also shares more detail on what's REALLY involved in making the swap 'work'

  • @marshall2368

    @marshall2368

    3 жыл бұрын

    DriverJ's Garage thanks! yeah there are a decent amount of things you have to do to get it on but i looked at the dash kit reviews and everyone complains about the clips on it. Some people have to swap out the clips from the old bezel and i’m sure thats not easy either you definitely don’t want to brake them. Plus its $150 and you have to paint it as well. And do you have cut out the back of the 1.5 radio cage to fit a double din? Also that is weird how u had to cut the double din cage to fit your double din radio. but as you said if you don’t mind spending the money it will look better. but if you can find a good bezel and cage, you can make it work pretty decent and pay much less. I paid $25 for my bezel from the junk yard and i got the cage for free. $25 might have actually been too much lol its just gonna get crushed if i didn’t buy it.

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah there are small details and complaints either way you install it really. I think it's just a matter of recognizing not everyone wants to source scrap yard parts, or can even land parts for the same price. Another person I talked to was able to land the parts for free, so the experience is definitely varied. My opinion is obviously the factory dash swap for newer factory dash isn't for everyone. I may eventually do another one of these down the road and do a completely custom dash and include an all digital custom cluster and some more modern touches, but that's a long ways off (IF I ever do it).

  • @joshbrothers2176
    @joshbrothers21764 жыл бұрын

    Why didn’t you just drill it out ??

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    To be able to make it work, one would have to cut the control panel for the HVAC and/or further modify the bucket and it would still either be loose, or require additional fabrication to build a mounting bracket. Essentially for all of the work that goes into it, and cost it's much easier to just use the kits that are available.

  • @ViciousNutbar
    @ViciousNutbar2 жыл бұрын

    I used a yukon denali bezel from a 2003-6 truck, a drill works the best to take those rivets out, and if you trim right, the HVAC will sit right with the dash bezel holding it inplace without shaking around or anything, also if you dont have a console your going to have to take the outlet cover off because now the face of the bezel covers the door so it wont open... was worth it in the end for me, let me have my double din, and theres no painting thats gunna get you the look of a denali bezel

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    When you did it, did you use your factory radio bucket and just the bezel from 03-06? I did a lot of digging when I made this video and everyone I talked to at the time said "you have to use the 03-06 bucket in addition. After messing around for a few hours trying to get the bucket and bezel from the 03-06 to fit only to realize I would have to modify my HVAC controller I said nope I'm done. I never intended to keep the Yukon as long as I have, and always intended to sell it in the end, and whenever I sell a car I return it to stock so I can either reuse the head unit if I really like it, or sell it to recoup costs on the next head unit I move to in my new ride. And cutting up my HVAC controls would have made that more difficult so I ordered the commercially available kit. Additionally since the video was made Metra and Scosche have both started offering color matched dashes. The dash currently in my truck matches the stock color and texture near perfectly without cutting/and messing up my dash and the cost was only a tiny bit more over what the parts would have run to get the parts to modify to use a newer year stock dash. So factoring in what my time is worth based on my billing rate for hours it's not worth the added effort when in minutes I can put in a dash that looks close enough for 99% of the trucks out there.

  • @jaylaysutube

    @jaylaysutube

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dude relax it would of been worth it to follow through its the American way.

  • @livinginh
    @livinginh4 жыл бұрын

    Just get all the parts from a junk yard including the bucket, works perfectly not sure why you had such a problem

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    Many on forums suggest you can do this with just the bucket and bezel, but this isn't true. Without vast modification the HVAC controls do not fit in the 03+ bucket. It is significantly easier / less expensive and you are able to return to stock without having torn up parts by just buying the less expensive already correct installation kit offered from several sources.

  • @sucioromero2464

    @sucioromero2464

    4 жыл бұрын

    I did it on my truck 2000 gmc Sierra with no problems bezel outta of an 05 gmc and rear bracket just ripped it outta of junk yard and had it installed in 15 min with no problems only had to demel out a bit for the AC control total cost 5 dollars

  • @erickmartinez4406
    @erickmartinez44063 жыл бұрын

    You needed to replace that back metal piece as well (from the 03-06) not just add the 03 bucket

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    3 жыл бұрын

    False. If you look closely in the video you can actually see the rear support is cut. It has 0 to do with the rear metal support, and everything to do with the shape of the climate control box in the 01 Yukon this project was done on, and the 03+ bucket and shape of the climate control mounting area within the bucket. I could have probably reverse engineered and 3D printed a custom bucket that would have worked, but that wasn't the idea of the video/project. It was to show that (and I should emphasize this again) IN MY OPINION for most people this swap isn't worth the effort when there are less expensive options out there. Could I 3D print the part, or fabricate the part with tools I have access to sure. Could I have made it work, yup absolutely. Is it worth it and do I recommend doing it ? Not really. For the majority of people that will either be doing this for a daily driver, tow rig/whatever that they want to have some modern features in the effort is not worth the extra work. Since the parts are still sitting in my storage space I could probably go back and re-film this and talk about it more. I probably didn't elaborate enough on why I thought it was a crap idea in the video and had to go into more in the comments. But I could also at this point 3D print a custom bucket that would probably meet my needs. I'm just not sure the over engineering is worth it for a rig I barely drive.

  • @gerardoesparza8650
    @gerardoesparza86504 жыл бұрын

    It can be done... just clip the the four corner peg legs on the hvac and put screws on the holes on each side to the 03-06 cage...

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    I actually have said this repeatedly in the comments to people saying that it can be done. Yes, yes it can, no where do I say it CANNOT, I mean I could put a Honda EJ9 or a BMW M54B30 in the truck, but what it boils down to is that it's not worth it for the majority of people. The video is after all called 'Why you SHOULDN'T' not why you can't...

  • @domenicolorenz9856

    @domenicolorenz9856

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do you have any photos or know of any video links for this mod?

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@domenicolorenz9856 You mean to mod the HVAC controls and such to work with the 03-06 bezel/bucket?

  • @biggskz
    @biggskz2 жыл бұрын

    No there's not that much work I did it on my truck spent 10 bucks for the bucket & 20 for the bezel easy peazy. Vs over 100 for the kit it's a no Brainerd for me cheep & easy

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    Alright I’ll take the bait and talk through this one, one more time. for those in the back. You SHOULD NOT waste the effort modifying your dash and hunting down used GMT 800 because..... $20 isn’t realistic for most people to get the part at so we’ll have to establish some more realistic costs… So we’ll use some sources for our parts. Car-Part and Ebay are usually the best (safest/most reliable) way to find used parts online IMO. Dash Bezel: Car-part prices range from $85-200 (as of 3/14/22) Ebay (sold listings) range from $65-185 (as of 3/14/22) So finding that price right in the middle using the midpoint price we have… Car-Part @ $ 142.5 Ebay @ 125 Bucket/Cage: Car-Part (I couldn’t find a comparable part listing and don’t know the actual part # off the top of my head) Ebay : listings ranged from $28-40 putting the mid point at $34… So parts wise just ordering the parts from ebay and Car-Part you are already over the cost of the after Market dash kit which is a plug and play affair… so… lets look more in depth and your unsourced part prices… These are the roughly middle points of each of those I’ll concede some space on cost and say both are offering free shipping…. You claim $10 for the cage and $20 for the bezel. Ok fine I’ll run with it, but… at super low prices more than likely you’re looking at a UPull it yard so there are other costs you didn’t account for… So we’ll have to figure in a few other costs such as our own time/labor and transportation costs. To be generous with these figures the US national averages for these types of items will be used. National average for a gallon of gas as of 3/14/22 $4.43 National Average MPG 25.4 National Average hourly rate: $11.22 (lets be real skilled enough people to modify the parts and not have it look like trash make a lot more than this hourly). Most people don’t live a close trek to a parts yard. So I’ll make an educated guess here and say 30 min each way travel. Which would probably equate to 25 miles each way. so 1 hour travel time, and 50 miles. So we need to add 1 hour of labor because you could be doing other stuff and our national average hourly billing rate is $11.22 Being likely overly generous let’s say you get the national average mileage of 25.4 MPG, but be real if you took your GMT 800 to get the part you’d be adding a bit more cost due to the decrease in mileage) doing very rough math you’re using 2 gallons of gas there and back.. So $8.86 in gas… You’re at the U Pull it and most of them have an ‘entry fee’ let’s say $5.00 (I’ve seen higher, but most I’ve been to seem to be $5ish). But now we need to figure in time to get into the yard, get to the right section, and search for a vehicle that has the part, then remove and pay for the part. Let’s call it 1 hour total at the yard (I’d bet this too is on the generous side). So another $11.22 in labor. So far… Labor 2 hours @ 11.22 = 22.44 Parts $30 Gas: 2 Gallons @ $4.43 = $8.86 Parts yard Entry - $5.00 without modification efforts you’re already at … $66.30 Add on 30 min to remove the old cage/bucket and probably another 30 to modify the new one to fit (including test fitting and messing around). So time to add another 1 hour of labor. In total with your cheap parts you’re probably looking at a real sunk cost of $ 77.52 The bezel needs modification’s too usually, just a small amount of trimming to accommodate the 12v door is what I ended up looking to do before I just said screw it… That’s maybe another 15 min… so only ~ $3.00 in labor time. So far ‘cheap parts’ have cost $80.52 in more real cost terms. It’s going to take you probably another 30 minutes of time to modify the heater controls from the 00-02 to fit the cage for the 03+ cage and not have it look like a total mess. So another $5.61 Running total: $86.13 AT this point the rest of costs should be the same as if you would have bought the aftermarket kit. So with the hope and dream pricing you listed you’re not far off in costs from buying the already ready to install kit… But not everyone is going to get their parts for $30 so I’ll do some more math to make it a bit more realistic for the majority… So we’ll use a mid-point for all of the prices. So at the bottom for the bezel you claim $20 so.. $20-200 is our range. We have $180 difference to split so adding $90 wouldn’t be unrealistic to make the midpoint be $110… but ebay seemed to have the majority of the listings selling for around $80ish. So we’ll go there. Average selling price for the cage/bezel on ebay seems around $35 right now. To make it even we’ll remove the transit and yard fees, but keep the modification time costs…so figure $19.83 in labor on that front. So for most people modifying and getting the parts would be closer to $134.83… We haven’t even discussed a return to stock if you decide to sell the truck, and that’s a whole other can of worms, and possible expenses to undo the work (especially if you chopped up your HVAC controls to fit). All in all, the price and effort factored in… it’s wiser just to pay the fee for the aftermarket bezel and enjoy your new installation sooner, and that kids is why you don’t waste your time modifying the 03+ GMT800 Bezel and just go with an after-market kit.

  • @biggskz

    @biggskz

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well I'm just saying that's what I paid for the stereo bucket 10 from any 03 to 06 silverado Tahoe suburban & 22 for the bezel @ my local junkyard & that's all u need so yeah just saying

  • @biggskz

    @biggskz

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well heres the magic u simply add some spacers/washers behind it & tada fit like a glove can't even tell

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    2 жыл бұрын

    First I want to say very clearly, the title of the video says you SHOULDN'T do it... not that it can't be done... My point in bringing up numbers is because so many people seem to think it's a budget solution that'll save a huge amount of $$ to get used parts, and never account for what the value of their own time is (thus why I include labor, travel time, and fuel in what I mention above). So ask yourself was your goal to have it look OE or save cash? because you're talking about prices first and then moving to shimming it so you can't tell now how it looks. There was a time when one could have said a dash kit wasn't available in colors and dash patterns similar to OE that they wanted to make it look as close to factory as possible on the outside. And that would make sense, but.... most people are like but but the price of used parts... And they completely ignore sunk costs of their own labor, tools, added misc. pieces etc. and they quickly lose any benefit of buying used parts to 'save money' I want to be really clear about this... I enjoy doing out there and crazy builds when it's for fun, but I simply don't see the value or point in tracking down suitable used parts at a recycler or wreck yard to make this work with OEM parts to 'save a few bucks'.

  • @biggskz

    @biggskz

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ok so ill take the bite Well very CLEARLY you are are giving false information & discouraging people SO IT CAN BE DONE FOR VERY LIL MONEY & it is worth it some people don't want/ have to spend 100 or 200 or what ever money u spent if you dont have to I didn't

  • @DG-sf9ei
    @DG-sf9ei4 ай бұрын

    Why is installing a double din into the 99-02 era trucks rocket science to so many? A DOUBLE DIN WILL FIT 99-02 WITHOUT ANY SUCH MODS OR EXPENSIVE KITS. In fact I just did it yesterday evening after seeing countless YT vids which would turn a skin rash into brain surgery. Converting to double din of 99-02 era is simple as pie: 1 - Accurately cut out that little center bar on the dash surround which is between the heater control and the radio, it'll look better and cleaner without it anyway. 2 - Accurately cut out the dash surround around the double din perimeter where needed, and guess what??..... you're finished, take the money you saved and put it towards an engine tune or something, and be thankful you didn't waste all that time on tearing up the main dash and devaluing your truck by spending hundreds on dumb retro kits and parts from other year Silverados. And if a miniscule paint chip off the dash surround bugs you, go out and buy a $5 spray paint can and refurbish your dash surround, it'll look better than before no matter.

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    4 ай бұрын

    There are a lot of ways to overly complicate an install, but also a lot of ways to butcher it too. It is definitely able to be done more cheaply than the kit, and there are definitely more complex ways to do it (the 03-06 Dash swap for example), then of course using the aftermarket dash kit. Each method comes with a set of trade offs and required effort. For me... when I do projects on daily drivers, I like the option that leaves me most easily able to return to stock. In this case I have my stock parts stored above my garage, and if I go back to stock, I swap parts back and sell off the after market kit to recoup some of the costs, then move to whatever I'm doing with my next daily driver.

  • @colormesarge
    @colormesarge4 жыл бұрын

    First two rivets you ever removed? 2 things, they make bits specifically for that and if you want to use what you have, use a bit that is just larger than the inner diameter. It'll rip that thing right out.

  • @DriverJsGarage

    @DriverJsGarage

    4 жыл бұрын

    I've only ever drilled out rivets maybe one or 2 other times, and it was a long time ago. But I appreciate the tip. Should make any future projects easier. Thanks!

  • @rushunt2131

    @rushunt2131

    2 жыл бұрын

    it would if it was facing the right way with the centering hole, that bitch is backwards he was fighting the stem, he did great. that is a pain in the ass

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