Why you shouldn't skip The Great Divide

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The the fact that this whole “you can just skip The Great Divide altogether” idea has just kinda passively been floating around the Avatar fan community for years and years is absolutely unacceptable to me.
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  • @Krossxc
    @Krossxc5 ай бұрын

    Yes, I've seen the Inayku video. I adress it and other stuff that followed this video here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mINhl8GRm87blKw.html

  • @pez_ezp

    @pez_ezp

    5 ай бұрын

    KROSS POSTED KROSS.. KROSS ?>>>Q?Q>W?>!

  • @sterlinsilver
    @sterlinsilver5 ай бұрын

    What's funny is this is actually the first episode I ever saw of Avatar the last Airbender. Pretty glad I didn't skip it or else I never would've seen the rest of the series!

  • @sonoio869

    @sonoio869

    5 ай бұрын

    My very first episode of the series I have ever watched was the last one of the series 😅

  • @KG.00

    @KG.00

    5 ай бұрын

    Same, I saw it in a dentist's office. It had me hooked, and since it was filler it kinda served as a hook for the rest of the series in a way

  • @Santzlol

    @Santzlol

    5 ай бұрын

    It's the first episode for most people because it was aired the most for some unknown reasons (at least in my country)

  • @jayschmidt2196

    @jayschmidt2196

    5 ай бұрын

    It's because it was forced to be made as a spoiler free episode not part of the main story. SO that it could be used as a rerun episode. So it played all the time even though it's really not great

  • @Spartan322

    @Spartan322

    5 ай бұрын

    This video has nothing to do with exposure like that, it doesn't apply to exposure at all, the problem is that this video is a Strawman and Tu Quoque fallacy over skipping The Great Divide because its a trash episode by saying "but its so inspired, look at all the inspiration it has in" which first off is a brainlet take, just because something is inspired by something, no matter how good, does not excuse watching it, if Avatar was a bad show, it doesn't matter how inspired it is, there would be no reason to watch it then, I don't care about the inspiration, that's irrelevant to it being a good show, that's a double standard. This comment specifically is also an irrelevant conclusion fallacy, just because this episode exposed people to the show does not mean that anyone who knows about it and is going to watch the show already should bother even watching this episode.

  • @fixielle
    @fixielle5 ай бұрын

    "Don' skip the great divide" or the other name could be "Avatar is based on anime, which you knew but how exactly"

  • @bookworm4133

    @bookworm4133

    5 ай бұрын

    I actually did want to see if there were some hidden themes or meaning within the episode that i never caught, but this video seems to boil down to "this is a reference to anime." It's cool to see the specific stylistic references, but the title and the episode is pretty irrelevant to the subject matter explored. We spend about 5 minutes actually talking about The Great Divide.

  • @Therealblueberrymask

    @Therealblueberrymask

    5 ай бұрын

    I was about to comment something similar she spends only like 3 minutes of this video talking about the great decide

  • @SKEEBOFFICIAL7

    @SKEEBOFFICIAL7

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@bookworm4133 the point is that by skipping the episode you miss out on all the artistic details put in by the creators that both enhance the experience and call back to their inspirations for the series

  • @bookworm4133

    @bookworm4133

    5 ай бұрын

    @@SKEEBOFFICIAL7 i get that, but it would've been more effective if we had actually talked about The Great Divide more. This video could be called "The Stylistic Influences of ATLA" because it's so general and encompasses so many different scenes and episodes. Ironically, for a video titled "Don't Skip The Great Divide", the actual episode is glossed over pretty quickly.

  • @theonetruefusion8533

    @theonetruefusion8533

    5 ай бұрын

    what's the great divide got to do with anime? nothing ever comes back, it's worthless, I don't watch anime but I do know it's the animation of a manga, am I missing out something big?

  • @icecreamguru7584
    @icecreamguru75845 ай бұрын

    I love how this video is called “don’t skip the great divide” and it’s a video pretty much solely about anime influences in avatar

  • @Krossxc
    @Krossxc5 ай бұрын

    I swear I didn't mean for this to come out right before the live action Netflix release. I've had this script on my computer for like a year and I just so happened to get around to editing it right when the last trailer dropped and it was incredibly relevant to the topic of the video. lmao

  • @3corazonesy2anos

    @3corazonesy2anos

    5 ай бұрын

    I dont care

  • @Mandus_The_Mad

    @Mandus_The_Mad

    5 ай бұрын

    @@3corazonesy2anos I don't care that you don't care

  • @3corazonesy2anos

    @3corazonesy2anos

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Mandus_The_Mad i dont care that you dont care that i dont care 👁👄👁💅

  • @wackyotter1235

    @wackyotter1235

    4 ай бұрын

    Who asked?

  • @Gibinhafilho

    @Gibinhafilho

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@wackyotter1235 joe asked

  • @Soguwe
    @Soguwe5 ай бұрын

    I always liked the Great Divide, it's a fun romp with fun characters and an interesting look into the malleability of oral storytelling

  • @dyladino
    @dyladino5 ай бұрын

    Incredibley BASED, as a kid this was my FAVORITE episode It was my first exposure to the idea of the noble lie

  • @12DAMDO
    @12DAMDO5 ай бұрын

    this episode is in and of itself a great divide: you have those who call this filler and "not worth your time" and then you have those who say this episode belongs on the watchlist

  • @Diortelon

    @Diortelon

    5 ай бұрын

    The great divide was us all along?

  • @Spartan322

    @Spartan322

    5 ай бұрын

    Inspiration is not an argument for why it shouldn't be skipped, that's a copout so you don't have to argue about why it should be skipped, its basically a Strawman and Tu Quoque fallacy.

  • @12DAMDO

    @12DAMDO

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Spartan322 if you disagree with the "inspiration" argument, please comment on the video instead of replying to my comment, it makes the person who brought it up (the uploader this video) more likely to read your point of view.. i didn't mention this argument in my comment..

  • @Spartan322

    @Spartan322

    5 ай бұрын

    @@12DAMDO I already did, you reinforced the video's point, hence why I also responded to you, I don't think he's gonna care anyway about my comment though.

  • @12DAMDO

    @12DAMDO

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Spartan322 i didn't mention the argument of influence.. i just said this episode divided the fanbase in those who call it filler, and those who understand the show and why this episode belongs on the watchlist..

  • @drparadox7833
    @drparadox78335 ай бұрын

    What i hate about this episode is not just the "solution," but the fact that GREAT SOLUTION was there all along and no one noticed it. Like One tribe saying their founder was tripped and robbed while other tribe says their founder simply found the dude passed out and took the sphere to complete the ritual in his stead. At the time when I first watched it (11-13 years old) I IMEDIATELY thought: "Wow they are both telling the truth, they just do not realize it!" I thought one founder performed the ritual, but passed out and the other continued it to help, but once he arrived the white clad tribesmen did not believe the guy and punished him for "Theft" sparking the whole conflict, so if Gaang just explained it it would have been great episode, instead of Aang lying.

  • @wackyotter1235

    @wackyotter1235

    4 ай бұрын

    I will say, sometimes a convenient lie is easier than the truth. Some people just have so much difficulty with grey zones that only dumbing something down can bring peace

  • @xSkadush
    @xSkadush5 ай бұрын

    I didnt even know people used to skip ATLA episodes. I have no clue how people can skip anything of this masterpiece

  • @diy_cat9817

    @diy_cat9817

    5 ай бұрын

    Uncultured, that's how.

  • @xd-px5ne

    @xd-px5ne

    5 ай бұрын

    ​​@@diy_cat9817Idk... I think this is the only episode people skip, and while I've personally watched it both times I've watched the show, I understand why people would skip it, and I will probably start doing it from now on too. Now-, I understand why you would feel that way, people should just watch the show and form their own opinions, and you should definitely not skip an episode in your first time watching the show, but as someone who didn't watch the show on release, but in order, and also as someone who didnt interact with the online community until after watching the show, I remember clearly that the first time I watched this episode I thought it was THAT bad. Like-, the thing is, this episode isn't even a bad Avatar episode (Like-, yk, the show being so good that this episode stands out as mid), but this is actually a bad episode in general, like-, actually awful. I wouldn't say that it was because the showrunners were lazy (definitely not, as seen in this video, which shows how much effort they put into the animation and that kind of stuff), I also don't find it bad for being filler (I'm a person who actually likes filler episodes for what they might do or just for the fun of it), but this episode is like-, straight up bad. Every character acts like there was a gas leak (Especially Katara), the problem of the episode and its resolution were really culturally insensitive and the message it gives comes from a place of absolutely missing the point they might have been trying to make. It's a really, like-, REALLY bad episode. So even tho I understand why you would feel upset about people skipping an episode without even trying to watch it, calling them "Uncultured" is kinda-, I think you're ignoring the fact that this episode is actually terrible and actively damages the show and the message it tries to convey, it is absolutely worth skipping and we shouldn't shame on people for deciding not to engage in an universally hated episode that retroactively tarnishes this masterpiece of a show

  • @xd-px5ne

    @xd-px5ne

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Multxverse Well, sure, I mostly just forget or ignore its existence until it's brought to my attention again, saying it tarnishes the show is an exaggeration, buuut I genuinely do think it's a really bad episode so honestly while writing the comment I was just pissed off about its existence

  • @grahamdamberger7130
    @grahamdamberger71305 ай бұрын

    My distaste for The Great Divide comes from the writing aspect and not the animation aspect. Having the two tribes dislike each other over an event that occurred so long before that nobody likely remembers what actually happened was good conflict, but my main complaint was Sokka and Katara turning on each other by siding with the tribe that they each spent the previous night with and learned each side's take on the event instead of meeting with Aang and sharing what they learned about the conflict between the two tribes. I get it, Sokka and Katara are siblings, and siblings will have their disagreements on certain things, but they are also part of Team Avatar and should have tried to stay as neutral as possible despite what they learned about the conflict. On a side note, based on the tales of the two tribes, I think one of either Jin Wei or Wei Jin was working in tandem with Fire Lord Sozin, because when the actual initial conflict took place kind of lines up with Aang's disappearance, which we would learn about in The Storm just one episode later. Or it could have been just pure coincidence and has nothing to do with Sozin's global conquest.

  • @SirRebrl

    @SirRebrl

    5 ай бұрын

    Not just siblings, but kids, and the episode set up that they were already getting on each other's nerves for, in principle, the _same_ things the Gan-Jin and Zhangs ragged on each other for. So their stories inflamed those immediate irritations. No doubt if they'd been older and more mature, they would have responded differently.

  • @RTGrimmer

    @RTGrimmer

    5 ай бұрын

    It's... just a bad story. Sure, there are moral lessons imparted with this episode. But the writing is clunky and awkward. The few redeeming moments this episode has does not make up for the banality of its storytelling, the cliches piled atop each other, and obvious virtue signaling. I don't get the love for this episode... and it has one of my favorite voice actors in it, as well. Sorry to everyone else, it's still a skip, for me.

  • @awesome7732

    @awesome7732

    5 ай бұрын

    they're 14 and 15 years old lmao they're not going to have top tier interpersonal communication skills

  • @ohood1788
    @ohood17885 ай бұрын

    I rewatch atla (and korra) on an annual basis and never once have I skipped this episode. It honestly has a lot of great moments despite being the weakest in the show. My favorite moment in the episode is where Aang is alone at the top looking out over the two separated tribes/camps and the canyon guide shows up and says to him: "lonely isn't it? being impartial." This scene perfectly sums up his predicament as the avatar and why he was so hesitant to embrace this role in the first place. It is a visual representation of how his position isolates him from other people, which is something that's elaborated on in the next episode (The Storm), but the idea is first introduced in this episode. I think The Great Divide is an example for how well-paced atla really is.

  • @adultnewborn3460
    @adultnewborn34605 ай бұрын

    I’ll watch the great divide episode on a watch through, Before I’ll watch the Appas lost days episode. Idc how meaningful that episode is, I will not put myself through that emotional trauma willingly.

  • @diy_cat9817

    @diy_cat9817

    5 ай бұрын

    Ugh. I have to mentally prepare for The Tales of Ba Sing Se. But never skip.

  • @zinfuldreams1709
    @zinfuldreams17095 ай бұрын

    not sure why this video is titled the way it is. Feels like it spends Very little time defending the episode and is moreso a discussion of how great the animation in the show is in its entirety. Kinda lost focus i think

  • @boomertunes9924

    @boomertunes9924

    5 ай бұрын

    Yea, it didn't really convince me to stop skipping it. He brought some interesting points in the first minute, but beyond that, didn't really give any further reasons to watch it (unless you're watching purely for the animations).

  • @Elrich272

    @Elrich272

    5 ай бұрын

    That's true. About that... many people didn't like the ending when Aang lies about the story of the two guys in order to lead the tribes to make peace. However, I find this actually very practical, since in real life, both the lack or the excess of historical memory can lead you to war; just take a look at the conflict in middle east, where history backs all sides with a lot of reasons to hate and kill each other. If you are too anchored in your history and traditions, you might never be able to make the necessary changes to give your people a good future. That's just my opinion.

  • @GiulianaBruna
    @GiulianaBruna5 ай бұрын

    When you mention the Spike/Jet reference something in my brain clicked open.

  • @Krossxc

    @Krossxc

    5 ай бұрын

    I KNOW RIGHT

  • @apoema42

    @apoema42

    5 ай бұрын

    It is so obvious now!

  • @maiz_kolbe5030

    @maiz_kolbe5030

    5 ай бұрын

    NO FR! something just MADE SENSE

  • @frankontaneda8377
    @frankontaneda83775 ай бұрын

    I appreciate the effort, but as someone who has rewatched the whole series multiple times (both skipping and not skipping The Great Divide)... You can ABSOLUTELY skip this episode.

  • @ryanmorfei6325
    @ryanmorfei63255 ай бұрын

    10:22 You mention not finding any instance of anyone on the anime team mentioning Imaishi by name. I did a little research into this a couple years ago because I also thought the Imiashi influence was so clear. In the Avatar Extras event on Nickelodeon, they showed a bunch of extra facts and comments by Avatar writers while re-airing all the episodes. During the great divide, they say this: "The Zhang flashback was designed and animated to pay homage to Japanese animator Hiroyuki Imaishi's style." and "Hiroyuki Imashi's work can be seen on the animated TV series called 'Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi.'" Interesting that they reference Abenobashi and not Dead Leaves when Dead Leaves is clearly the influence for the scene, not Abenobashi. I think they chose to reference that show instead because Dead Leaves has a lot of adult content they wouldn't want to recommend on Nickelodeon. Interestingly, Abenobashi also has a good bit of adult content. I guess it's more palatable because the main characters are children. Also, thanks for highlighting my comment earlier! I was the person who mentioned that the great divide has an imaishi inspired scene in the overanalyzing avatar video.

  • @Krossxc

    @Krossxc

    5 ай бұрын

    You're goated

  • @cullenlatham2366
    @cullenlatham23665 ай бұрын

    it isnt "skip it" because of what it does right, but because of what it gets wrong. No one is denying there are good elements in it, but the bad outweighs the good, especially with the end of the episode undermining the general vibe of the show. Skip on rewatches is the actual sentiment, as you wont know how "bad" it is until youve "suffered" through it at least once. All the anime influences are great, but is it really enough to prove the "dont skip it" point? All the points made are merits requiring research, and that isnt going to have any impact on most viewers. Sure, some might appreciate the anime references unique to the episode, but when it comes to recommendations, that is something that would come from someone personally related, in which case, they likely know if that fact would peak interests or not. On the internet, you dont get personalized recommendations, so they remain more general overall. For most people, the animation change might be interesting, but without background knowledge in anime, they wouldnt care what inspired it. There is also the case to be made that you still are not missing out on many of the references, since they show up in other forms elsewhere in the show. There is value in the great divide, but that value is too limited to be part of general recommendations. Skip it on rewatches, experience it only that first time.

  • @gabriellepowell8613
    @gabriellepowell86135 ай бұрын

    THANK YOU for mentioning the worries behind the ATLA live action because i’ve been having the same ones!!

  • @prestonsawicki7517
    @prestonsawicki75175 ай бұрын

    I like the great divide love, but your argument is basically that other episodes are more interesting and have anime elements, so the great divide should also be good. No shade, it just isn't something that will get me to go back on the great divide

  • @user-js4vr6bg2n
    @user-js4vr6bg2n4 ай бұрын

    "when are you actually gonna talk about the great divide?" Kross: we get there when we get there.

  • @TheBLSh0w
    @TheBLSh0w5 ай бұрын

    I’m so happy that you made this! It’s actually one of my favorites… I’m 27 and grew with the show. Jong jong was a favorite too

  • @seriouslyspikey1733
    @seriouslyspikey17335 ай бұрын

    Great video, only thing I’m confused about is what this has to with the great divide? You’ve throughly convinced me that avatar is inspired by anime, but why does that mean I shouldn’t skip the great divide? Connecting the two ideas more and having a conclusion that sums it all up would be helpful.

  • @Diortelon

    @Diortelon

    5 ай бұрын

    The connection is that the episode serves as a showcase of the creation team and director's influences and reference for the whole series. The isolated plot of the episode takes a backseat and seems almost (still acts as a buffer for heavier episodes) negligible for this purpose. It was quite clear for me 😅

  • @Tejroe
    @Tejroe5 ай бұрын

    Can confirm the over-saturation of Great Divide when it came to marketing and runtime on Nickelodeon. The quote “All in a day’s work for the Avatar,” is straight from the ONLY commercial I can remember Nickelodeon ever putting out for the show. I couldn’t remember until recently which episode that came from because I always skipped Great Divide upon rewatch lmao

  • @KirbySonicTeam
    @KirbySonicTeam5 ай бұрын

    I’m so happy your back. This video was excellent. Thank you for finally making the video avatar production discussion has needed. The characters themes and story of avatar have been covered to death, this is the stuff I love learning about

  • @awndermusic
    @awndermusic5 ай бұрын

    i think any of the episodes that are labeled as filler are still super effective in establishing world building and the more time i rewatch the series i appreciate the great divide, and the fortune teller

  • @anamelesslad4542
    @anamelesslad45425 ай бұрын

    The only great divide I’ll watch is jumping from episode ten to episode twelve

  • @16ktsgamma
    @16ktsgamma5 ай бұрын

    You either love the Great Divide or you hate the Great Divide.

  • @gabmoreno280
    @gabmoreno2805 ай бұрын

    never have its a compelling episode and its great to make peeps annoyed who dislike it watching it

  • @pivotfever
    @pivotfever5 ай бұрын

    The Great Divide was a necessary episode to foreshadow how all of Korra would feel

  • @Lasanke
    @Lasanke5 ай бұрын

    7:58 Korra almost has an exact copy scene of this evady style

  • @anonbakkjen7379
    @anonbakkjen73795 ай бұрын

    18:50 "inspired by japanese swordsmen" seems a bit vague of a statement cobsidering the character is very obviously based on Toshiro Mifune's character "Sanjuro" from the 1961 movie Yojimbo directed by Akira Kurosawa. I always thought the Momo's appearance in the hallucunation was a Yojimbo as his look and mannerisms are spot on for Mifune's character

  • @marlieblue3944
    @marlieblue39445 ай бұрын

    Evangelion, trigun, and cowboy bebop mentioned in an avatar video essay? Yeah instant sub lol

  • @masscreationbroadcasts
    @masscreationbroadcasts5 ай бұрын

    4:59 I always took Aang's intro pose to be a reference to Wanderer above the Sea of Fog by Caspar David Friedrich. Yes, I had to look it up, don't judge me.

  • @BlueBlazeKing
    @BlueBlazeKing5 ай бұрын

    I honestly skip it whenever I’m doing a marathon of the series. When your in between episodes like Jet and the Storm it’s hard to actually get into

  • @nicholalehtimaki3597

    @nicholalehtimaki3597

    5 ай бұрын

    I always hated “Jet” (not a fan of the extremist rebel is bad trope). So I skip that one

  • @axelnilsson5124
    @axelnilsson51245 ай бұрын

    4:56 I always look at Zokka during that so I didn’t notice Kataras hilarious expression

  • @katyungodly
    @katyungodly5 ай бұрын

    Oh wow this is insane, I didn't realize how many anime references there are in ATLA! I really should look into some of these, they look great

  • @Krossxc

    @Krossxc

    5 ай бұрын

    yeah, you should!

  • @soupyvibes6170
    @soupyvibes61705 ай бұрын

    The great divide was one of my favorite as a kid cause it played so often. Plus the art style shifting was really interesting to me

  • @adventurersitem-shop3050
    @adventurersitem-shop30505 ай бұрын

    Yes you should skip the great divide.

  • @mari-mari-yasno
    @mari-mari-yasno5 ай бұрын

    Avatar is a bridge between two worlds: the world of anime and the world of Western animation

  • @BillErak
    @BillErak5 ай бұрын

    SO THAT'S WHY THE GREAT DIVIDE WOULD ALWAYS BE THE EPISODE ON AIR WHEN I CAUGHT AVATAR I don't think the episode is that bad but I _despise it_ because it would _not stop showing up_

  • @SylviaRustyFae
    @SylviaRustyFae5 ай бұрын

    I love the way you show the source quotes to back up your claims; tho i wish there were a good way to display them anywhere else but the bottom of the screen Thats where my captions are and bcuz i need high contrast large text captions, they block stuff there quite often. Thankfully you put the quotes high enuf they are mostly unobscured when i pause to actually lean in and read the rly tiny text; its just the source part gets covered up a bit on the left Love this vid overall tho, minor mention of accessibility stuff aside

  • @Krossxc

    @Krossxc

    5 ай бұрын

    Oh sorry about that. I'll defiently keep that in mind next time! And thanks for pointing out the sources! I spend a lot of time trying to make sure I'm giving accurate information and being transparent about where I'm getting that information from.

  • @BillErak
    @BillErak5 ай бұрын

    THE RISE OF KYOSHI MENTIONED!!!! There's another 3 avatar novels btw (Shadow of Kyoshi, Dawn of Yangchen, Legacy of Yangchen) go read them.

  • @Krossxc

    @Krossxc

    5 ай бұрын

    I still gotta finish Shadow of Kyoshi but I will read Yangchen's books once I finish (probably in like 6 months lmao)

  • @kielbaily8513
    @kielbaily85135 ай бұрын

    I watch "The Great Divide" not for its effect on the rest of the story, but because it's just really fun to watch.

  • @anime_world6684
    @anime_world66845 ай бұрын

    I love it when avatar has so many single episodes to be breath of fresh air like avatar day or nightmares and daydreams but they were not cooking with the great divide, I never knew I would hate being treated as a child as much I did when watching that episode

  • @NMW567
    @NMW5674 ай бұрын

    this dude really stopped talking about why you should watch the great divide one and a half minutes in lmao

  • @BillErak
    @BillErak5 ай бұрын

    Man, what a video. It was really fun and thoroughly enjoyable, I do love learning more about Avatar.

  • @pacihu962
    @pacihu9625 ай бұрын

    Jesus Christ … it’s all connected. Thank you for this eye opening video!

  • @Aerance
    @Aerance5 ай бұрын

    This was a great watch. I appreciate your perspective and knowledge on art styles and animated history. Thank you for making this. Don't take the new live action too seriously and you may enjoy it more. It's not meant to be a 1:1 recreation and I'm glad they realized that during pre-production.

  • @dojee8993
    @dojee89935 ай бұрын

    based take, have been saying this for ages! can't believe I've never seen anyone properly talk about the Imaishi influence in a video essay in all these years thanks for making this video!

  • @CC-1138_DS
    @CC-1138_DS25 күн бұрын

    OMG! When I saw Spike fighting Ed’s Dad and for the first time he couldn’t affect him in any way I immediately thought on how an agile waterbender like Katara or Eska and Desna would attack an giant Earthbender like the Boulder who is literally immovable

  • @rgmoses2189
    @rgmoses21895 ай бұрын

    I always liked the episode, the reason why so many people consider it the worst was due to the number of reruns it had compared to others

  • @liamday453

    @liamday453

    5 ай бұрын

    thats certainly one of the reasons its become ubiquitous as the worst episode, but it is also genuinely bad. like bottom 5 at best

  • @RecomALT
    @RecomALT5 ай бұрын

    Ur back and it’s awesome

  • @stewartsmalls2024
    @stewartsmalls20244 ай бұрын

    ATLA was animated by artists in Korea. Brian talks about his time overseeing animation there. Celebration of the Korean artists that did the work makes more sense than the omage to Japanese artists that white american creators enjoyed. Props to the artists use of the 4 different styles representing the OG ATLA, Jon Wei flashback, Wei Jun flashback and Aang's chilidish lie and the teams that brought it together. 👏👏👏

  • @thiccfila
    @thiccfila5 ай бұрын

    What you said about how you know most about anime so thats what you spread your knowledge on was a great touch. (i dont make avatar videos) but the biggest thing that connects me with avatar is all of the deep meanings behind each episode. Tales of ba sing se is so amazing, but my favorite episode was the one when Aang is meditating with the guru (onion and banana juice lol, but that actually is a culturally significant drink to meditation, weird right). BUT, it was great watching this video because I didn't know about the anime influence, and it just adds another layer to the onion (juice) that is the masterpiece of the original.

  • @cinderblockstudios
    @cinderblockstudios4 ай бұрын

    It was thanks to the over airing of The Great Divide that I even found the series in the first place

  • @pez_ezp
    @pez_ezp5 ай бұрын

    KROSS IS BACK YALL THE WORLD IS HEALING

  • @unripetheberrby6283
    @unripetheberrby62835 ай бұрын

    Kross! Hope you've been well, it's been a awhile! 😊

  • @Laezar1
    @Laezar15 ай бұрын

    I didn't expect that to be so interesting, thank you that was cool

  • @loganbettis2031
    @loganbettis20315 ай бұрын

    If you watched this but skip the episode which is the same length, lol

  • @therealpisceskid
    @therealpisceskid5 ай бұрын

    i say this with love, this video should've just been about avatar and its animation influences rather than starting off by saying "here's why you shouldn't skip this episode!" and doing little to actually prove why you shouldn't, aside from pointing out certain animation references in that specific episode. either way, please know that this video was entertaining regardless! it was cool learning the anime influences that are scattered within the show, and you even briefly pointed out one of my favorite anime franchises in this video. keep it up!

  • @avivastudios2311
    @avivastudios23113 ай бұрын

    I enjoyed this episode more than the cave of lovers one. I really liked the designs of the tribespeople.

  • @cfv7461
    @cfv74615 ай бұрын

    I liked this episode when I was a child, and was quite surprised when I learned that so much people despised it

  • @Jouzujanai
    @Jouzujanai5 ай бұрын

    Great video as usual with you Kross. Thank you for the great content! While a side thought that you had here - I completely agree that the live action Avatar should have just been a new story within the Avatar universe. The world building is vast here and could have been anything but instead they choose to try recreating a story what is effectively about as perfect as you can get. So far from the trailer I've seen it doesn't look bad.. but it really can't be better than the original series. To top it off, all this money and effort was spent when we could have been seeing a fresh story. A shame (Inevitably I'll still watch it, but still). On a tangent if you happen to read this - I would love to hear your thoughts on some Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss. (Beyond that first video you did)

  • @Krossxc

    @Krossxc

    5 ай бұрын

    I have been meaning to get around to talking about Helluva Boss and Hazbin

  • @tatianatub
    @tatianatub4 ай бұрын

    avatar was a serial cartoon that got released in a age of epesodic cartoons, as such nick didnt know how to treat it and reran the episodes that were the most self contained such as the great devide, the fortune teller, bato of the water tribe, and jet

  • @tortoisesoup16
    @tortoisesoup165 ай бұрын

    Just wanted to comment because my youtube profile picture has been this for more than a decade now

  • @Krossxc

    @Krossxc

    5 ай бұрын

    based

  • @Harvey_Mod
    @Harvey_Mod5 ай бұрын

    I literally just rewatched it yesterday and it's mad funny😂

  • @tessabakker662
    @tessabakker6625 ай бұрын

    Not going to lie I LOVE the design of the Canyon Crawlers. They're just skrunkly big bug dudes who love to eat (I can relate).

  • @zodiacthundaga7264
    @zodiacthundaga72645 ай бұрын

    I'm watching ATLA with my friend who's never seen it, we skipped the Great Divide and nothing was lost. Iroh and Zhao already mention Ba Sing Se in season 1.

  • @kidanarchy2105
    @kidanarchy21054 ай бұрын

    I know that anime/manga is often seen as a rival or "superior" to American super hero comics, but I'd love to see a video on all the ways these two mediums have influenced each other. From anime studios working on Batman The Animated Series, to Spider-Man inspiring Super Sentai which in turn inspired characters like Blue Beetle. There's an incredibly rich co-mingling of ideas that I'd love to see someone tackle not from a place of "mine is better than yours" but rather the same sort of sincere admiration of both that you've shown here.

  • @Krossxc

    @Krossxc

    4 ай бұрын

    That's sounds like a cool idea but I'm definetly not knowlegable enough about comics to be the person to make that video. Maybe you should give it a shot!

  • @LuckyBastard12345
    @LuckyBastard123455 ай бұрын

    This is me with Rise of the TMNT

  • @mintman325
    @mintman3255 ай бұрын

    Start to finish I come back to the show often, and now I’ll watch the Great Divide.

  • @user-xz7pu3zz6v
    @user-xz7pu3zz6v5 ай бұрын

    you should watch it in first watch but in rewatch i dont think its important

  • @jurgenhanewald673
    @jurgenhanewald6735 ай бұрын

    7:53 this "dancing around enemies" also reminds me of that one guy in a forest "fighting" a platypus bear who thought he couldn't die cause aunt Wu told him. Sure it only happens one time but it does look similar

  • @nathanh2085
    @nathanh20855 ай бұрын

    Wasn't this video about The Great Divide?? lol liked the video

  • @justingorman4804
    @justingorman48045 ай бұрын

    I ask every person to listen to this tools voice and way of speaking, and apply it to any other subject other than avatar.

  • @The_Wosh
    @The_Wosh5 ай бұрын

    22 minutes to say that the episode helps the pacing of the series and that the whole show is inspired by anime. I'm still not convinced I shouldn't skip it

  • @diy_cat9817

    @diy_cat9817

    5 ай бұрын

    It's 20 minutes. You can do it.

  • @The_Wosh

    @The_Wosh

    5 ай бұрын

    @diy_cat9817 I watched the whole video, that's how I know she doesn't talk much about the episode and instead most of the video is about anime

  • @veggiewillymass
    @veggiewillymass5 ай бұрын

    I'd watch a Jet is Spike Spiegel video essay

  • @TheRealKittyCraft
    @TheRealKittyCraft5 ай бұрын

    When you described how eastern and western animation has started blending ideas and influences together, I couldn’t help but think of Rise of the TMNT, whose fight choreography and cinematography was based off of Studio Trigger. I’d love to show you the show, or at least some out of context clips of the fights just to show you and gush on how the entire budget went into them lol.

  • @Krossxc

    @Krossxc

    5 ай бұрын

    Bet we should do that

  • @stonefaceBRC
    @stonefaceBRC5 ай бұрын

    omg everything i love is all connected 😭

  • @YamatoFukkatsu
    @YamatoFukkatsu5 ай бұрын

    I got into Avatar somewhat late. I kept hearing about this anime-like cartoon on Nickelodeon, but I never checked it out because I was mostly out of TV in general, shifting a LOT of my focus to pirated subbed anime instead. But I think a friend I knew on AOL Instant Messenger informed me that the series was about to begin re-airing from episode 1, so that was as good a time as any to get into it (as I recall, this was sometime before Book 3 began airing). That said, I generally avoided the online discourse surrounding the show, so I was completely unaware that The Great Divide was so hated (I think I first became aware of that a couple years later, while reading around TVTropes). When I initially watched it....... yeah, it was pretty fillery, but the stylized flashbacks were pretty funny (that along with a couple other gems, like Sokka so blatantly saying that he just hung around for the food). I think this video put it nicely: it was just a fun little breather episode. Hardly anything I'd consider to be an absolute trash-tier abomination that's worth skipping over (and really, I'd say "filler episodes" only truly get to be unbearable when you've got F all happening for several, and I mean SEVERAL, episodes in a row, like with Pokemon or anime-original episodes of Detective Conan...... Avatar generally paced its plot out quite well, so having one episode like this once in a while could hardly be an issue).

  • @ursidae97
    @ursidae974 ай бұрын

    It's a funny concept that plays with the quest story format similar to how Pokemon has, rather than lotr. It's symptomatic of being early in the series, but I don't see that as a problem at all. Nothing wrong with a silly episode where aang wants a custard tart

  • @bella_daze3092
    @bella_daze30925 ай бұрын

    2:36 I knew about the Goku reference, I didn’t know the other one was Vash the Stampede

  • @dawn8293
    @dawn82935 ай бұрын

    The thing I think is important in this episode is the ending. A lot of people feel like Aang is out of character in Bato of the Water Tribe, when he lies, but Aang is totally comfortable lying in some situations, like in the Great Divide. I think it's important to see Aang as a character who, despite being wholesome and a hero, may not act according to our values all the time. Also, it's one of the few episodes I remembered from when I watched it as a kid, before I rewatched it in 2020, when it finally came to Netflix. I really liked the punch line of Aang being able to solve a problem by just lying.

  • @azfaarrealm9426
    @azfaarrealm942620 сағат бұрын

    I don't think you should skip it on your first time, but when rewatching I always skip it.

  • @Edalontzia
    @Edalontzia5 ай бұрын

    Okey thats the greatest video about avatar inpirations EVER. Its THE avatar inspirations video

  • @Krossxc

    @Krossxc

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks! I didn't want to claim that this is the one stop shop for tracing the visual lineage of atla but I was certainly aiming for that!

  • @TheAllSeeingEye2468
    @TheAllSeeingEye24685 ай бұрын

    Wow someone that likes to actually this ep too

  • @HeyyJillian
    @HeyyJillian5 ай бұрын

    the great divide was the first episode I ever watched when I was a kid, I was hooked. I don't get the slander for this episode.

  • @vexthelynx
    @vexthelynx5 ай бұрын

    the only episode i skip is the tunnel episode and i only skip the part of team avatar i dont skip the zuko and iroh bits but i have also watched the show over 20 times i know what happens the awkward love stuff just makes me super unconfortable

  • @nickdevprod3667
    @nickdevprod36675 ай бұрын

    As kid i loved this episode so much and i thought how aang handled it was hilarious

  • @SentientMicrowave-dd7zq
    @SentientMicrowave-dd7zq4 ай бұрын

    The great divide is the best episode of the first season. spoiler warning for the episode in question The two tribes are an intelligent metaphor for our society. They both justify irresponsible behaivior by saying that if they dont bring food, the others will do it anyway. That kind of behavior can be observed in almost any political conflict. Any single individual or country or company cant make a difference anyways so they dont even have to try. Finding someone to blame for your problems is easy. Finding a soulution is hard. Thats a powerfull message for a cartoon. The way Aang convinces them to stop fighting and start working on a better future togethter by strait up lying to them is genius. A conflict solved without violence. Thats something you dont come across as much as you should. Both on tv and in real live.

  • @addictionsucks8848
    @addictionsucks88485 ай бұрын

    Cool animation is no excuse for bad writing. This avatar. While I appreciate cool styles it's not worth the pointless storybeats and childlike divisions. This is one of the episodes that got away with it because it is a kids show. Everyone is insufferable, and though it may provide a few lore threads haphazardly thrown in to make is almost seem like we're watching the same show as before, you can very neatly take this out of the show as a whole and only miss maybe a minute of interesting animation. It's not the worst episode of Avatar, but it's definitely one of the few episodes I would prefer to skip.

  • @Domingueroplus
    @Domingueroplus5 ай бұрын

    All these years and I never noticed Aang is holding his staff behind his back. 5:06

  • @Casinizucchini
    @Casinizucchini5 ай бұрын

    I honestly really enjoyed the episode on my first watch. Didn’t know people didn’t like it

  • @austinnerd2343
    @austinnerd23434 ай бұрын

    I love that Apa was almost Naga 😂

  • @sarahmeeker1958
    @sarahmeeker19585 ай бұрын

    the video topic I've been waiting for

  • @maxtube1952

    @maxtube1952

    5 ай бұрын

    Too bad the title isn't actually what topic the video covers.

  • @enesnok
    @enesnok5 ай бұрын

    This episode is very great and I enjoyed each time. I never understood why people don't like it.

  • @vibespidersstudios8895
    @vibespidersstudios88955 ай бұрын

    To be honest this was the episode that kept airing to get people to watch the show. Somehow the backgrounds in the episode are better than other background than other episodes. It is not great but it is okay but it is a pace breakup to the next episodes.

  • @mattevans4377
    @mattevans43775 ай бұрын

    "I'll always have the original" Not if the media world gets it's way.....

  • @Krossxc

    @Krossxc

    5 ай бұрын

    well I got the complete DVD set so I'm chillin' lol but yeah I dislike paying for conditional access to media too

  • @m.v.gonzalez5575
    @m.v.gonzalez55755 ай бұрын

    6:30 also isn't Korra's pet (Naga) a female polar dog-bear?? They did ended up using that concept eventually

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