Why You're Not Getting Paid The Streaming Money You Earned (And How To Get It) | SF MusicTech 2014

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Jeff Price - founder of Audiam, TuneCore, and spinART Records - spoke at SF MusicTech Summit about the ins-and-outs of music publishing. Price dives into the nuanced arena of copyright and how the Right of Reproduction has changed with the evolving music industry, specifically the introduction of interactive music streaming services. Get paid the money you are owed with Price’s in depth guidance.
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  • @zinzeta
    @zinzeta5 жыл бұрын

    Every artist who isn't up on the legalities of the music industry and music distribution should watch this video at least once a day/night.

  • @AnthonySforza

    @AnthonySforza

    5 жыл бұрын

    Funny you should say that, I was pursuing a degree in Music Business back in University and oddly enough, in the applicable classes, I was the only "Artist." There weren't even any "Producers." Everyone else wanted to be Managers (Mostly Managers), Publishers, Label Executives, Music Lawyers... a think there were a few people wanting to start a venue. In any case, it kind of blew my mind and was a huge wake-up call as to why the industry is in such disarray when it comes to artists. Especially considering some of the things they were teaching in those classes. For instance, in one class, the instructor made a point that "Oh, this is for all of you Managers... a good way to extract an extra 5% or so from your clients, is to make it out to as many shows as you can by them. So if they have a tour with 36 shows and you show up to twelve of them, they're going to think that you're at 'Almost every show' and therefore hold them as a priority, even though you have other clients. So when it comes to re-negotiating their payment to you, you can squeeze out an extra 5% and it'll sound reasonable to them because you'd always been there for them and they've seen you there, seemingly always grinding away on their behalf. All the while, those idiots (Yes, he actually said "Those idiots") were paying for your flights and accommodations to make it to those concerts in the first place. So you're able to negotiate MORE money from them, on their dime, all along." I don't recall if this is exactly what he'd said (Save for the 'Those idiots' part) though it was definitely something akin to this.

  • @donnig5053

    @donnig5053

    5 жыл бұрын

    Anthony Sforza wow that’s good to know, that’s how manipulative the music industry can be

  • @AnthonySforza

    @AnthonySforza

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@donnig5053 Oh man... I can write an entire book on that subject alone. In fact, many people have. Case in point, say you the artist gets a 10% royalty on your albums sold. Thing is, so much stuff comes out of that 10%. Like the Producer's 3%, 1/2 of the budget for music videos, and among other things a little guy called "Breakage" which is to account for the likelihood that 10% of items shipped (Be they vinyl, tapes, CDs, etc) are subject to shoddy shipping practices and end up at the retailer in bad shape and therefore unable to sell. The kicker? This 10% charged to the artist is even applied for DOWNLOADS as well. The absolute kicker? All of this was BEFORE the 360 Deal. Then throw in how what little percentage left goes 15% to the manager (Some have gotten 20%), 10% to the lawyer, another 10% to the Business Manager... trickle trickle, taxes, on and on. Then... all of this is AFTER you pay any and all debt to the label. So if someone didn't make enough in which to do so, then they just go even deeper into debt with them. So if one is a new artist, they'll front money in the form of an Advance, to sublimate an income while they're making an album (Where a smart artist would use that to pay for their album and not a bunch of "Stuff" but I digress) but then there's also other recording fees, videos before the sales come in, promotional materials (Like the 30' ad for Marilyn Manson in Times Square... Marilyn Manson paid for that) etc etc. Yet people wonder why artists who go Diamond (10,000,000 sold in the US alone) such as Toni Braxton or TLC (WHo then had to split things three ways at the bottom) end up filing for Bankruptcy almost immediately afterward.

  • @donnig5053

    @donnig5053

    5 жыл бұрын

    Anthony Sforza so what’s the downsides of going independent

  • @AnthonySforza

    @AnthonySforza

    5 жыл бұрын

    ​@@donnig5053 Jeez... that's such an expansive question. Haha, no, I'm not "Behind you with the rent." Brace yourself... though you DID ask for it. 1. Ok, here's the thing, going independent definitely has benefits, kind of like when MC Hammer was first approached by Atlantic Records, he turned them down. Namely, as it would only take him selling 50,000 albums out of the back of his car in which to earn as much money as going Platinum with them. So he sent them packing until they came back with a better deal. I know, it's totally weird to consider that when thinking about what ultimately happened to him, though I'm digressing. 2. However, there are some drawbacks. First of which is that all those hats the people wear in the process of bringing your music to market, the Label Executive, the A&R, the Distributor, the Manager, the Publicist, Booking Agent, Business Manager, etc etc etc... those are your hats, now. Which isn't too bad for someone with an affinity for such fare, though every second spent marketing is a second NOT spent making music or practicing, tightening, etc etc. Of course, there are KZread music content makers who boff at this concept in favor of doing the whole thing yourself and say "Of course this is how things are, 85% of your time/money should be spent marketing, grind grind grind..." Sure, people can be paid to do those things to some good results, though that will have to come out of their pocket outright, if not doing it themselves. Not to say any of this is bad, but it's definitely something one should weigh up for themselves. 3. That's also taking into consideration the "staff" for your project. A label has access to top producers, engineers, mixers, masterers, etc. An independent artist can most definitely find highly talented individuals for these roles, though a lot of the balance and success (In terms of marketable quality) of said project comes down to the talent of these individuals... and talent COSTS. There's no advance to help the independent artist out and they have to pay themselves. Fortunately, there are platinum selling Mixers/Masterers who can work remotely via dropbox or such for... fair rates, so to speak. Fair rates considering their pedigree, though it's still somewhat expensive for the average independent artist. My point is, where is all that money going to come from? 4. Something else to consider... is that if one goes the Independent route, you won't have the "Reach" a label does. They pay a LOT of money (Much of which is recouped by the artist, mind you) to top marketers and advertisers. For the artists they want to promote, anyhow (Loooong post on that one) Sorry to say, their pockets are a LOT deeper than an independent artist's. So are their connections to the individuals who would have the best results with said money. Now... going back to the MC Hammer example, if you can make as much selling thing like 50,000 (Or hell, maybe even less) and grossing the same amount as if you were to go Platinum (I'm almost 100% sure record deals are considerably worse than in 1988... not counting the 360 Deals), then who wins? You do. It's a lot easier in so many ways to move 50,000 (Not easy... easier) than 1,000,000, with the added benefit of not being beholden to a label. Especially since if your album doesn't sell, the Label (Who's fucking job it is to promote/market/sell it and what they get paid 85+% of the proceeds for) will drop you and then BLAME YOU for its low sales! "It's because the album was terrible and you're an unmarketable hack... not at all because we dragged our feet on it and didn't do shit to promote it. Oh, but you still owe us all that money." 5. Remember that Dido chick? Her album No Angel had been out for almost two years before anyone gave a shit. It was the most licensed album in history (9 of the 12 songs were used in over 100 commercials, synced, sampled, etc) up to that point and nobody knew who she was.. until her song Thank You was sampled by Eminem for Stan. Then... THEN the label (Arista) started pushing her because now there was an interest. Or Jewel, whose album Pieces of You was out for the same amount of time and even being in a relationship with Sean Penn (Who directed her first video, a different version of You Were Meant for Me) and still, nobody knew who she was. Until much later, when Who Will Save Your Soul came out... THEN the label (Atlantic) started moving her. Again, I'm digressing my ass off, though. 6. To coattail off of the fourth paragraph (Actually why I numbered them)... sure, you could stand to make more money than with a label (Possibly) but is that what most Independent artists want? Sure. Probably. Or is it fame? An Independent artist can have the checks rolling in all day long, but chances are, they're not going to be playing to sold out shows across the country or on euro tours, etc etc. On tour with other artists they love and respect. This is why so many artists, despite being told (Or even shown) that if they stick metal into a light socket, they'll get zapped, yet respond "Yes!!!" Be forewarned though, that fame comes with a LOT of money being run down a garbage disposal. Remember Marilyn Manson's 30' advert in Times Square? How much do you think THAT cost? 7. Here's the real kick in the balls. Spotify. So, SO MANY of the Independent artists I come across think this is the way to a career in music. Yes and no. Will people hear their music? Yes. Will they make a living as a result? Define "Make a living." To put this in perspective... yes, everyone got so pissed at Taylor Swift and Adele for not wanting to be featured on such platforms because they'd lose money. "Fuck them, they already have millions" was the general consensus in reaction to their statements. Here's the thing though, if they got $1 per album sold and it goes Platinum, that's (To keep things simple... for me, totally not a mathematician) a million dollars, right? Now, say instead of buying their album, a million people listen to the hit song from the album once on Spotify, how much is that? No shit, like $10,000 (At least at the time that whole "scandal" was going down, it may be better now... or worse, I don't know, I haven't checked into it recently). Huge difference, that one. Which they have to then split with their Publisher, so they get $5,000. See why they'd be upset? I mean, can you imagine spending a year writing, practicing and then recording an album... only to make $5,000? One would have better luck flipping burgers at Wendy's. It doesn't even come close to offsetting the cost of making the album, much less your life during that year. Sure, you can get some recognition from Spotify, like if you sound like Bruno Mars and your song somehow finds its way onto a playlist of songs of his. Though let's be totally honest, if people find you on Spotify, they know you're on Spotify and most likely wouldn't go and buy your album. Some will, that's a given, but most won't. 8. Adversely, in conjunction with all that I've mentioned above, an Independent artist would have all rights over their music and any money they earn. Especially with the 360 Deal being so prevalent nowadays. So all of their touring money, merch, if they act in a movie/show, etc etc. However, again, back to the sixth paragraph... there most likely won't be thousands of people in the stands. Yes, one would perhaps make more playing to 1,200 people as an Independent artist than 5,000 as a Label one, yet... 5,000+ in the audience is pretty fucking intoxicating. Yes yes, I know that there are people like Lady Gaga, Rihanna or Maroon 5 who sell out Arenas. I'm speaking more to someone just breaking out, so to speak. Yea, this is it off the top of my head... yes, this novella of information was "Off the top of my head." Haha, I think about this stuff a LOT, so there's definitely that.

  • @tnygmusic
    @tnygmusic3 жыл бұрын

    This is by far the best thing on youtube. He is literally giving us EVERYTHING we need to know. My only wish is that this was longer.

  • @chuckytherapper

    @chuckytherapper

    2 жыл бұрын

    it actually is. They cut a part out in the beginning.

  • @DonClassico
    @DonClassico5 жыл бұрын

    I watched this 2 years ago and didn't understand a word he was saying. Now in 2019 which I gain more knowledge I understand 90% of what he is saying. Thank you sir. Very informative

  • @BilGmusic

    @BilGmusic

    5 жыл бұрын

    What books or courses would you recommend on this topic?

  • @DonClassico

    @DonClassico

    5 жыл бұрын

    ​@@BilGmusic WordPlay T. Jay kzread.info/dron/W3dGztC1-Yh71MsVaPvrrQ.html Pay Us No Mind - kzread.info/dron/EOVJNOi3JRWkneeEqSrMFg.html These 2 channels helped me a great deal. To simplify things a lil bit for you. Let me start by explaining. You NEED to understand 4 key important things. What is a 1. PRO, 2. Admin Publishing Company, 3 Distributor and 4. ISRC I'll try my best top explain to you the best way I can in simple English, because these theory can get confusing pretty fast. Let me start with the last one and work my way up, because it is THE MOST important thing you ever need to both protect your sound and to track it all over the world. #4. ISRC (International Standard Recording Code): is a must have. A 12 digit code consisting of letters and numbers. If you are a independent artist you can have this 12 digit code assign to you. By sending a request to a legit company that has the authority to assign this to you or you can have one assign to you when you are about to release your song. You also have a bar code but I'll leave this one out for now otherwise it will get to complicated. Just know that the ISRC is a personal code assign to your legal name and a bar code more likely to your product. No one other then yourself, your publisher and streaming company shall have this ISRC. This code will be embedded in your music/song/track. It is your individual song's own ID. You only assign 1 code per song. After reading this you will understand as soon as you see one of these code what I'm talking about, don't worry!! If you are not a independent artist, it's not a problem. Your producer or studio or in house publisher will assign one to the recordings. Just know that you are NOT in control of your own sound. THEY will keep all tracks for and you can only and hope they are sincere. #3. Distributor: These guys have connections all over the internet to get your releases into the online stores. Some can even get your releases in local (physical) cd stores and most will only do digital delivery. There are so many options out there. By delivering I also mean streaming platforms such as Spotify, Itunes, Tidal etc etc. These can be seen as both stores and "radio stations" with a skip button, if that makes any sense. So these platforms will hold your releases for the mass to find and play your songs any time they like but you can only get on these streaming platforms by using a distributor. How to pick the best distributor is really up to your budget, your amount of time you'll be releasing. Each distributor has their own fees and services. I'll suggest you do some research. Check for online reviews about the pro's and cons and at last follow your gut feeling. You can have more then one. You pay you decide, just read their terms and conditions so you don't deliver the same song to different distributor. That's a bad look for yourself. #2. Admin Publishing Company: A better way to explain these guys job is. They are the internet police for music. with their data base they are able to track down online stores an digital platforms to pay you a money which is called mechanical royalties. Here comes the ISRC in play. This code which is unique to you which is unique to the sound recording apply/embedded to is going to help them track down your sound and make sure you get payed. Why mechanical royalties? Not to go too much in depth. It is the fact that these platforms whether it's a online store or streaming service, are renting your music for them to put on their server to get costumer which are YOUR FANS to drive traffic to their site so they can sell advertisement to company and gain money off of your creativity. Which is your/our/we/mine music. Can you follow still? So this mechanical royalty is obligated to be payed by them to you. It' the law that they HAVE to follow. So there comes the music police which are the administrate Publishing company. I forgot to mention. If you are not in control of your ISRC. No problem. Some Admin Publishing Company allows you to upload mp3 files to their system so they can then track down each and every recognizable sound of your recordings. Know that having a admin company is a separate entity and you have to pay a separate fee for their service. Some won't charge any money but will take a percentage off your mechanical royalties. #1. PRO: Performance Right Organisations. This last one is less complicated to understand. You should assign to one in your own country. It's easier to get paid. Your money doesn't have to go around the world before it reaches your bank account. These PRO organisations pays you your royalties based on radio and tv airplay's, and or performances. Any one and I mean Any one who uses your music needs to pay up. Radio stations? You deserve money. TV Commercials or any other programming? You deserve money. Someone performs your song? You deserve money. A dj spins your record (song)? You deserve money. The word PERFORMANCE don't stands for nothing. You deserve money for writing and composing. If you do both? More money for you. So having a PRO, you have to first apply to one and start filling in your works as either a writer of the song (lyrics) or writer of the composition (music melody). they DO NOT collect royalties money from streaming services. For this you need #2. PRO's only pays you royalties based on your ownership. Your creativity. Your hard work. You'll have to provide to them your personal data and bank account. So you can get paid. One important key factor. When writing your personal info's in the recording metadata. Make sure you use both your FULL LEGAL NAME in the writer and composing area. Otherwise #2 and #1 CANNOT WRITE YOU A CHECK. The bank does not recognize artist by their artist name. Me walking to the bank with a check saying Don Classico will leave me homeless with no money to buy food. feel me? LOL kzread.info/dron/Ln_dnTlSkzeXRHhISiHVpw.html?view_as=subscriber Support my channel if you like. Peace

  • @savonjr16

    @savonjr16

    4 жыл бұрын

    Don Classico Wow, you broke that down really well. BMI is a performance rights organization right?

  • @DonClassico

    @DonClassico

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@savonjr16 Yes

  • @musthaveV8

    @musthaveV8

    4 жыл бұрын

    bless

  • @vitkomusic6624
    @vitkomusic66245 жыл бұрын

    Wow.. No you are not boring sir.. You should become mentor for musicians.

  • @mygoogleaccount1648

    @mygoogleaccount1648

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yummy !!!!

  • @elitesmgs8984

    @elitesmgs8984

    4 жыл бұрын

    I need you to work with me you smart my name is Gaby 2403162453

  • @oscarmarylane3301

    @oscarmarylane3301

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have my own songs that I need to make money off of and I need help to get it done. I'm my ready to be picked up by a record label and become a star and get paid my music is hot and love bye every one

  • @oscarmarylane3301

    @oscarmarylane3301

    3 жыл бұрын

    Call me at 334-558-5928 my name is Oscar Jerome Webster and I have recorded my own songs and songs of others. I want you to make myself and you money. I need you to call me back and let me know what you think.

  • @joeysoprano7978

    @joeysoprano7978

    3 жыл бұрын

    Indeed

  • @dilemmabeats4917
    @dilemmabeats49178 жыл бұрын

    NONE of the streaming sites pay on the 20th of the following month. Most pay 3-4 months late. Beats paid me 10 months late.

  • @kringle02

    @kringle02

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dilemma Beats count your self lucky I know one of the biggest bands ever and there getting paid at the end of the year ,so they get to earn interest off your money for a year before they pay you.

  • @jeffreykirton1780

    @jeffreykirton1780

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not enough people know to sue. Im sure it could easily be a class action lawsuit

  • @diamondnova7598

    @diamondnova7598

    3 жыл бұрын

    Chris Holland what band is that?

  • @ZachKopkaZake

    @ZachKopkaZake

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @ZachKopkaZake

    @ZachKopkaZake

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kringle02 m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZomZpdODhJS2cpc.html

  • @l.o.t.s.beatz.3931
    @l.o.t.s.beatz.39315 жыл бұрын

    The Dislikes Are The Company's That's Taking Your Money🤦🏽‍♂️Stop Hating🍻You Don't Deserve To Keep what We Worked On💯🐴👍

  • @ZachKopkaZake

    @ZachKopkaZake

    3 жыл бұрын

    m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZomZpdODhJS2cpc.html

  • @johntuttle1207
    @johntuttle12077 жыл бұрын

    Dear: Mr. Price I have been watching your seminar's and find them to be extremely informational. You might be the only person on this planet realizing these issues with such accuracy. I understand that this angers you a great deal which also shows integrity and honesty. I think you should take this knowledge and energy and use it to write up legislation and push to have it passed through congress. If laws are enacted accordingly, the businesses will have to abide as they should and pay those which they owe. There is no greater expert then yourself in this field. I hope you at least consider the idea. You would definitely have my vote and support.God Speed Sincerely, John

  • @robertgraf9265

    @robertgraf9265

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is the banksters. They control CONgress. Do you they represent the people? Who wants the obscene budget for the war machine?

  • @jneener7

    @jneener7

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exactly what I was thinking. You are the man for the job Jeff! You can do this for all musicians from now until eternity! Make this possitive change.

  • @romievthedon

    @romievthedon

    4 жыл бұрын

    The copyright laws are fine for now, they just aren't simplified in terms an average person can understand without intensive study. Also, even with the law being in place, there will always be violators. Jeff's doing the right thing by promoting awareness. It's honestly the most effective way to go about it. The more informed the people are, the less of a chance violators will get away with it. Every process to solving issues starts with education and social awareness.

  • @lilbrody8254

    @lilbrody8254

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree with you I have a whole playlist and I just started watching him tonight XD!

  • @romievthedon

    @romievthedon

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ZachKopkaZake Didn't really like it much. Not bad, just not my taste. Love the mellow vibe though

  • @l3vyte315
    @l3vyte3154 жыл бұрын

    This is why block chain technology is so important in the future for music

  • @lukeberryarchive

    @lukeberryarchive

    4 жыл бұрын

    Can you elaborate? This comment made me very curious

  • @CountryGravyMusic

    @CountryGravyMusic

    4 жыл бұрын

    That’s why I’m streaming my music on dlive

  • @picturemute3291

    @picturemute3291

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CountryGravyMusic Make sure to check out Audius too!

  • @chuckytherapper

    @chuckytherapper

    2 жыл бұрын

    Im not sure what block chain technology is

  • @korynamusic
    @korynamusic7 жыл бұрын

    Wow, I've learned a lot of new things from this video. Thank you Jeff and GrammyPro for sharing this!

  • @shemchummun2295

    @shemchummun2295

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hey I need your help,how you get your music out.what distributor you use.plzzz tell me.

  • @ZachKopkaZake

    @ZachKopkaZake

    3 жыл бұрын

    m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZomZpdODhJS2cpc.html

  • @ZachKopkaZake

    @ZachKopkaZake

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shemchummun2295 m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZomZpdODhJS2cpc.html

  • @samvv
    @samvv4 жыл бұрын

    Wow this guy is like a hero. He knows the legal system quite well.

  • @JohnHenrySheridan
    @JohnHenrySheridan7 жыл бұрын

    Great talk Jeff Price! So I'm not alone in feeling like I should be making a little bit of money for all of my songs (and I've never gotten paid from KZread, Spotify, Soundcloud, etc...not once)

  • @chuckytherapper

    @chuckytherapper

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have you gotten paid now?

  • @JohnHenrySheridan

    @JohnHenrySheridan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chuckytherapper Hey Chucky the Rapper, yes since 4 years ago I've begun to earn a little something on a regular basis from CD Baby. Nothing groundbreaking but makes me feel like I'm glad I invested in my music. How are things going on your end?

  • @PARKERFX
    @PARKERFX4 жыл бұрын

    I’m still here in 2020 corona virus days listening to this important lectures.

  • @bawxofchawclets4836
    @bawxofchawclets48364 жыл бұрын

    Im not even in thr music industry or software i just watched this whole thing because he was just so passionate and charismatic

  • @holycat09
    @holycat093 жыл бұрын

    JEFF PRICE, YOU ARE AMAAAAZING!!! That was the most comprehensive informational talk I've ever heard about how screwed up this country is when it comes to artist rights and royalties issues!!! you are pissed off and you and we should all be !!!! WTF IS WRONG WITH THE USA??

  • @chuckytherapper

    @chuckytherapper

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well I mean the bigger problem is that anyone can just start a company like Spotify and make it look good and set it up to collect money. WITHOUT setting up a way to PAY money. And that's the major issue. Even the 3 majors that are getting the most are still paid late af just because.

  • @IamLolaGrace
    @IamLolaGrace5 жыл бұрын

    This was SOOO GOOD! Excellent delivery!

  • @micmica1827
    @micmica18275 жыл бұрын

    We definitely need to put high pressure on our governments to create very strict laws to protect artists all over the world.

  • @emceeunderdogrising

    @emceeunderdogrising

    2 жыл бұрын

    Copyright was invented to create a environment where the arts could thrive. Now all it does is choke the life out of it.

  • @destinyreturns4885
    @destinyreturns48855 жыл бұрын

    Jeff, just ran across this today and wanted to thank you for your hard work.

  • @Wendel_Kos
    @Wendel_Kos4 жыл бұрын

    Great video, as a ghost producer ive always wondered why my statements are getting smaller and smaller, while Apple & Co makes more and more. They should make the streaming payments a lot simpler. Maybe pay the writers directly, per stream or something. I didnt know there was so much money left with these streaming services. Again, big thanks.

  • @macewbee
    @macewbee2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for posting this.

  • @elmega1262
    @elmega12625 жыл бұрын

    Very informative, I have been recently looking into this and what your'e breaking down has reshaped my perspective. Thank you Jeff Price!!

  • @packosiris
    @packosiris6 жыл бұрын

    very informative, thank you

  • @stevenfinch2547
    @stevenfinch25475 жыл бұрын

    Jeff is a great public speaker and a very strong character in the music industry. Great talk!

  • @planetterry2057
    @planetterry20574 жыл бұрын

    Thanks brother. The most direct, informative seminar on this issue I have ever found.

  • @Songbirdmusician
    @Songbirdmusician7 жыл бұрын

    Hey, Jeff, Thanks for the advice and awesome video it was extremely helpful

  • @Justfaceit55
    @Justfaceit555 жыл бұрын

    I have learned a lot, but I gotta watch again and take notes....lots to follow. Thank you for sharing

  • @Staykool777
    @Staykool7774 жыл бұрын

    Wow. And this was 5 years ago. Imagine how things have changed since then. Thank you Jeff, you are amazing!

  • @willmcmillan1430
    @willmcmillan14303 жыл бұрын

    This is hugely helpful. After I watched this, I found your much longer presentations at Belmont University. Also very helpful. Thank you for doing all of this work!!!

  • @Creko7
    @Creko75 жыл бұрын

    Shout Out To All The Independents‼️ listen closely

  • @ZachKopkaZake

    @ZachKopkaZake

    3 жыл бұрын

    m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZomZpdODhJS2cpc.html

  • @ajwildz7558
    @ajwildz75583 жыл бұрын

    ive recieved 330 thousand streams on spotify ALONE since May this year, its now 6 months later and ive recieved 90 dollars from distrokid!!

  • @ifroxxx1226

    @ifroxxx1226

    3 жыл бұрын

    that´s messed up man...Distrokid is shady af

  • @jonathanwright6174

    @jonathanwright6174

    3 жыл бұрын

    Having same problems with Distrokid in regards to Napster signed up with publishing too audiam, prs etc they still hold the majority of your royalty's for months on end then only pay you a fraction complain then they pay you a little at a time. The industry is too corrupt and unregulated that's the problem needs government intervention around the world alot of tax money will be raised for them.

  • @user_anon777

    @user_anon777

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ifroxxx1226 no its not , Spotify pays like shit.

  • @room203GLG

    @room203GLG

    2 жыл бұрын

    DistroKid super shady they did me the same way I had a song with thousands of plays only got $3. This why I’m heavy in the merch game bc the streams are so fickled

  • @TheWriter86
    @TheWriter865 жыл бұрын

    Man what a great video with tons of value for us musicians. Thanks!!

  • @bumptown1
    @bumptown17 жыл бұрын

    I only understood the last 20sec and loved it!!

  • @chuckycheese1
    @chuckycheese14 жыл бұрын

    VERY EDUCATIONAL, Appreciate you

  • @DoreVibe
    @DoreVibe8 жыл бұрын

    I love this dude. Get 'em Jeff!

  • @RickRijuanaPro
    @RickRijuanaPro7 жыл бұрын

    19:05 When he said the 3 Biggest labels get paid for the artist work. That's *ucked up

  • @acharich

    @acharich

    4 жыл бұрын

    💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

  • @toomuchtoofast4533
    @toomuchtoofast4533 Жыл бұрын

    Watching Jeff on repeat? Priceless

  • @dainismichel
    @dainismichel4 жыл бұрын

    wow. what a great video. thank you!

  • @josuevasquez2423
    @josuevasquez24235 жыл бұрын

    This video is priceless, good stuff. Thanks.

  • @Ragani108
    @Ragani1084 жыл бұрын

    Terrific information-- thank you! I have a feeling he'd have plenty more to share if there had been additional time for his presentation. Lots of great information!

  • @youaintmoney
    @youaintmoney6 жыл бұрын

    Jeff Price thanks for your service and all of your hard work.

  • @marcusheier7577
    @marcusheier75774 жыл бұрын

    Wow! So much love and respect for this guy - Thank you!

  • @AJ_Nicholas
    @AJ_Nicholas4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! This is a rough reality to face. Even my mentor, Merrell Fankhauser found his song used in a restaurant commercial and he didn't get paid for it! He even called them and they hung up the phone!

  • @soundtrapp8164
    @soundtrapp81645 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff Jeff !

  • @jonhorsley9104
    @jonhorsley91046 жыл бұрын

    thanks that's really good information for me to know! cheers

  • @JuiceCannon
    @JuiceCannon Жыл бұрын

    Great information

  • @alejandroherrera5238
    @alejandroherrera52384 жыл бұрын

    Awesome thanks brother love the energy @17:00

  • @eltonallenmusic
    @eltonallenmusic4 жыл бұрын

    This was a great seminar!!!!

  • @RobbieBlue
    @RobbieBlue4 жыл бұрын

    Great info

  • @musikizme2
    @musikizme24 жыл бұрын

    Great insights on the inner works of the Music industry's Copyright laws

  • @TheGreatBeast
    @TheGreatBeast5 жыл бұрын

    Didn't know Tim Roth was into music business

  • @skittelzmusic
    @skittelzmusic3 жыл бұрын

    Great content

  • @DatAnydeks
    @DatAnydeks5 жыл бұрын

    Basically, the submission of our music ‘for sale’ is to make someone else rich.

  • @ZachKopkaZake

    @ZachKopkaZake

    3 жыл бұрын

    m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZomZpdODhJS2cpc.html

  • @chuckytherapper

    @chuckytherapper

    2 жыл бұрын

    yeah they are literally telling us they'll pay us. Then they get all the money first and hold onto it, Which collects interest, and then when they are good and ready they hire a third party like fox or music reports to figure out who gets paid what.

  • @codycamachomusic
    @codycamachomusic5 жыл бұрын

    to my fellow musicians out there... Grind hard and get out there and tour tour tour. Keep the dream alive.

  • @akinkunmicook2977
    @akinkunmicook29774 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant!!!! I had to rewind often!!! Nonetheless very informative!!!!!

  • @iampolexxxtra5482
    @iampolexxxtra54825 жыл бұрын

    This was very helpful.

  • @WOTSNews
    @WOTSNews Жыл бұрын

    I Appreciate You For Sharing The Information 🙌🙌

  • @alvaromedinagarcia
    @alvaromedinagarcia4 жыл бұрын

    Loved the rant.

  • @Boomthavixen
    @Boomthavixen5 жыл бұрын

    So if artists don’t copyright their own music , the distributors take MAJORITY of royalties and artist are left with chump change ?

  • @SmokeyYunick13

    @SmokeyYunick13

    4 жыл бұрын

    Once you create it, it’s copyrighted. They must give you a notice of intent to use and pay you, if they don’t, they are violating copyright law.

  • @itsrelativ3967

    @itsrelativ3967

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SmokeyYunick13 You still need a library of congress copyright. No lawyer is gonna take you serious just because you have all the vocal and instrumental stems in the DAW. Having the original files is only 10% of the battle.

  • @bobbyguzman3058

    @bobbyguzman3058

    4 жыл бұрын

    You can copyright your lyrics by writing them and mailing them to yourself. Do not open the letter, it will be date stamped by the Post Office and can serve as a legal document and copyright in the court of law. Feel free to look that up and see if im wrong, im just remembering something they taught us in business school.

  • @tawdryhepburn4686

    @tawdryhepburn4686

    4 жыл бұрын

    Baker that will protect you in some aspects, but if you don’t register works of art in certain formalized ways, your damages can be capped at a fairly low number, if you ever go to sue. For example, in the case of screenwriting, unless your work has been registered with the library of Congress, damages for infringement/plagiarism/theft and the like are capped at $250,000 total. But the average value of a produced Hollywood screenplay is worth FAR more than that, especially when residuals are included. So there are benefits to proper registration.

  • @slayproductionsslay8876

    @slayproductionsslay8876

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bobbyguzman3058 but it only serve as one form of copyright in some cases people have lost with that being said there are other cases people win.

  • @noahzaeshorts1402
    @noahzaeshorts14024 жыл бұрын

    This NEEDS more views!

  • @johnnyleadguitarists.r.b.8621
    @johnnyleadguitarists.r.b.86216 жыл бұрын

    I have been checking out all of these publishing companies and they all have good deals but you have to decide about several variables as this video indicates. I went with TuneCore (TC) and hope it continues to work out for me. But, check this out ~ I have many videos on KZread (YT) and do have monetization through TC to collect from YT. Today I received a Copyright infringement against 4 of my original songs ~ To conclude the story, quickly, the infringement came from TC who caught the songs playing, not knowing the songs were mine, contacted YT about this possible infringement immediately and YT contacted me. I find this great that TC, not knowing I placed these songs without informing them, is on the stick about their band's publishing and the money that is legally owed to the bands….. ~ Thanks TC & keep up the great work.

  • @toluadebanjo8142

    @toluadebanjo8142

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the insight, while studying these issues in the industry it's difficult to find areas where companies are looking out for the creators. Always nice to see examples of this and try to build on that foundation and help artists like yourself succeed in such an exploitative business.

  • @quamidchilds4224

    @quamidchilds4224

    5 жыл бұрын

    Did you ever license your music for movie or commercial placement with TuneCore? If so, how much commission did they give you?

  • @84legit

    @84legit

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is very nice to say the least.. Its hard to know who is honest

  • @theyeymusic

    @theyeymusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@quamidchilds4224 company like tunecore is a DISTRIBUTION SERVICE and not a licensing company To license your work you have to approach your country s copyright website Note that you can still distribute your work without taking copyrights from your countrys rights services Edit: in this case you can't sue someone for copying your music because you don't have any government proof. Poorman copyright just don't work for country laws

  • @tuesdayzrain
    @tuesdayzrain5 жыл бұрын

    Love your passion for the rights of the artists!

  • @nuke2625
    @nuke26255 жыл бұрын

    This is such a great insight.i can't thank enough how great giving the knowledge away is. Cause its tougher than ever for the artist and knowledge is the key.

  • @kellyvaughnofficial
    @kellyvaughnofficial3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing! 🎸

  • @education4artists567
    @education4artists5676 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting!

  • @christopherlynnjohnson2706
    @christopherlynnjohnson27065 жыл бұрын

    Very informative!

  • @CANDYSOULonline
    @CANDYSOULonline7 жыл бұрын

    great info...very depressing....

  • @RawDogTV

    @RawDogTV

    5 жыл бұрын

    ??

  • @HitMenProductionGroup

    @HitMenProductionGroup

    5 жыл бұрын

    Haha 💯🤣

  • @ErickT_MX

    @ErickT_MX

    5 жыл бұрын

    Welcome to the industry.

  • @TheWinterShadow

    @TheWinterShadow

    5 жыл бұрын

    Why is it depressing to know your rights?

  • @icemike841

    @icemike841

    5 жыл бұрын

    Really Winter? How about your last used car? Deep down you knew you were getting screwed, but for you to investigate and confront the dealer was a bit much and way too complicated to make your case. So you let it go even though you knew your rights. Dealing with music companies shouldn't be like dealing with a use car dealer. It takes you away from the music. Like CandySoul said.. depressing.

  • @_voxyfox_
    @_voxyfox_6 жыл бұрын

    I love his passion. Could listen to this all day.

  • @milcmaster
    @milcmaster4 жыл бұрын

    great vid

  • @wavtunemusic
    @wavtunemusic4 жыл бұрын

    Great lecture 👍

  • @Djabominationalive
    @Djabominationalive4 жыл бұрын

    *I just learned so much. . very interesting!!*

  • @ericwilson4901
    @ericwilson49014 жыл бұрын

    Very educational!!

  • @Turntill
    @Turntill4 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful thx a lot!!!!

  • @thezuguprojectANTHONYALBANESE
    @thezuguprojectANTHONYALBANESE Жыл бұрын

    Excellent!

  • @bobbyjupitermusic3765
    @bobbyjupitermusic37655 жыл бұрын

    Very Educational

  • @singmysong1167
    @singmysong11672 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, friend.

  • @davidleonard2498
    @davidleonard24984 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic and brutal!!!! Great delivery of the streaming 'white elephant'.

  • @scaoticvlogs7238
    @scaoticvlogs72384 жыл бұрын

    That's very helpful it's great information such as this one.

  • @MarkWhiteartist
    @MarkWhiteartist5 жыл бұрын

    Very informative

  • @therockhour1386
    @therockhour13864 жыл бұрын

    GREAT PRESENTATION!

  • @AJ5TAR
    @AJ5TAR3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge 🙏

  • @stateofblitz
    @stateofblitz4 жыл бұрын

    Mapping payments to the relevant parties really should be quite easy with the right software. Streaming services need to be investigated NOW !

  • @robreal6476
    @robreal64766 жыл бұрын

    Great info. I received some NOIs and didn't know what the freak there were.

  • @MrCoby303
    @MrCoby3036 жыл бұрын

    im glad I watched this video I learned a whole lot wow

  • @FilliD1
    @FilliD15 жыл бұрын

    Exceedingly great lecture. Applause applause.

  • @JustinDeanCreates
    @JustinDeanCreates4 жыл бұрын

    Thank You for being honest, Jeff And for protecting the artists You're correct Art has an infinite and timeless value.

  • @stephena.sheehan9959
    @stephena.sheehan99594 жыл бұрын

    Thanks to Jeff Price for an excellent lecture.

  • @MattsterFelix
    @MattsterFelix7 жыл бұрын

    This Gets me mad man ! There needs to be a change!

  • @realblack8557
    @realblack85574 жыл бұрын

    i watch this video at least once a day to drill this information in...thank you Mr.Price you have earned a lifetime supporter/student!

  • @Al3xAndrovA
    @Al3xAndrovA4 жыл бұрын

    wow!!!! never knew any of this

  • @thomaspotts6666
    @thomaspotts66666 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of Tony Hawk

  • @marioknez5025

    @marioknez5025

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ray Romano

  • @monique_pryce

    @monique_pryce

    4 жыл бұрын

    mario knez 🤣🤣🤣 true

  • @mellman8799

    @mellman8799

    4 жыл бұрын

    More like howard from big bang theory

  • @jaredrush6750

    @jaredrush6750

    4 жыл бұрын

    You should google "Brian eichenberger" bass player from beach boys. A twin completely

  • @ZachKopkaZake

    @ZachKopkaZake

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh that's hilarious yeah same looking does Tony dye his hair😂😊 m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZomZpdODhJS2cpc.html

  • @jimfischer4195
    @jimfischer41953 жыл бұрын

    thank you so much.

  • @anthonydiaz8701
    @anthonydiaz87014 жыл бұрын

    This video has opened my eyes & mind.

  • @marisayeaman
    @marisayeaman3 жыл бұрын

    Jeff Price, you are a breath of fresh air...someone who sees how this swindle works....the little guys are paying for the streaming party...when I once asked a PRO why ISRC codes didn't seem to help make royalties trace back to the rights owners, they scratched their heads and said...."well, it's hard....ISRCs don't make the files traceable"....I said, "so you're telling me a computer is not capable of matching codes to a database"?....the answer was effectively 'Yes', it's too hard... Imagine if their bank told them that basic transactions were to hard to track..

  • @wesleyLucas
    @wesleyLucas4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the education

  • @r.u.nuttsrecords725
    @r.u.nuttsrecords7254 жыл бұрын

    you are my Man ! thanks 4 your work its worth every penny ! All Just start cheer for Jeff As Persidente of the USA !

  • @TommyVega
    @TommyVega4 жыл бұрын

    Wow.. the best spent 20minutes of my life! Finally now I have my eyes open about music revenues.

  • @derwolf9668
    @derwolf96686 жыл бұрын

    You're the man!

  • @job.nreachhigheryoubeanyth5308
    @job.nreachhigheryoubeanyth53087 жыл бұрын

    Great Video bro. Expanding the music industry here in Belize and to the world. Mastha Peace Production. Grind Hard Empire and the Just Over Broke. Network. Reach Higher

  • @peterjustus1653
    @peterjustus16534 жыл бұрын

    its nice that i have heard this. next thing is to act on it now

  • @rij2392
    @rij23924 жыл бұрын

    Found this video at just about right time , just released my single on cdbaby to be distributed to major streaming services . Would be interesting to see how this all works out.

  • @glenfoster8783
    @glenfoster87834 жыл бұрын

    Got Dolly's story wrong. She wrote "I Will Always Love You" for a friend, she starred on his t.v. show in the early days and when she was leaving the show, she wanted him to know she would always love him. Yeah, it does sound like a torch song but was inspired by platonic love.

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