This looks like a flamboyant drug cartel boss is having a sit down with his downtrodden CIA contact.

@roger5731

3 жыл бұрын

Spot on!

My two cents, the average consumer doesn’t have endless cash. When you make a substantial purchase, you want to be able to wear it with everything. A stand out crazy piece is harder to match with the average wardrobe. We want something that we can curate with our existing objects. So that we can get the most “value” about said object. The question then, is why do we have boring wardrobes? I will say young millennials and Gen Z is breaking this mold. Look at how so many brands are swinging towards the “crazy” and “unique” the rerelease of the must de line. The colorful dial rolex OP’s. They want colorful and eye catching, their outfits are more wild. Think of a Nike Chunky Dunky. You cant wear a boring watch with that.

@stephen9609

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it's a good point, but like Christian said, why don't people wear a yellow Swatch or red G-shock? For $100 bucks you could probably afford to buy a few different ones

@prehistoricpig

3 жыл бұрын

I think that’s happening a lot more tbh. The boring crowd just happens to be larger atm but that pendulum is swinging.

@lucioledizerot196

3 жыл бұрын

I also think that most casual watch people buy watches as much for others than for themselves, in the sense that they use them as jewelry pieces rather than purely personal intimate objects

@cepon3

Жыл бұрын

If you are wearing sneakers to anything but the gym you need to evaluate your poor decisions.

@prehistoricpig

Жыл бұрын

@@cepon3 what?

Great opening - You guys are a great balance for each other.

@knickknackchaddywack

3 жыл бұрын

By the way, @ Michael, do you still have your SS Cartier Santos on the Godron bracelet? Miss seeing it on your wrist!

I would buy a Hublot just to annoy people. Same with Panerai, large Breitlings, and the like. Because blow me.

I always love the charisma between these 2 and their takes on watches. But ive gotta ask. Wheres anna?

@DavidSmith-zu6eu

3 жыл бұрын

I know from Instagram she's out in California. Not sure if she's still with T&H or not.

I really enjoy these vids of you guys talking watch news etc. Great format, keep it up!

Genuine chemistry - always a great view Thanks guys

This new format is much more engaging. Thank you for the content

Appreciate the perspective on Hublot! I get tired of Nico hating on them because they have a unique identity.

These videos legit put me in a good mood. Christian, your hair is annoyingly good. Let’s grab a beer and talk shop.

Cheers gents!! Always enjoy your vids!! also enjoy my red gshock so feeling pretty good about myself ha ha

30 years old regular folks wear Apple watches and Daniel Wellington watches and the likes and that is the real shame.

@OuijTube

3 жыл бұрын

The Apple Watch is more tool than any “tool watch” watch fetishists can name. Wearing a watch at all is pure fashion. Wearing a luxury watch is frivolity that few can justify or afford.

@yorusuyasoul69420

3 жыл бұрын

DW is a mistake of nature

@francisrobindaine-duchesne6095

3 жыл бұрын

@@OuijTube while I agree that an Apple watch is a useful tool, it is only that, a tool. You can't dive with it, you need to plug it every so often and it's not so original and doesn't express personality. You're only but more and more connected. My iPhone already counts my steps, the distance I walk and the height I climb. I can dive with some of my watches, and I can check my heartbeat with a finger on my wrist or my throat and my eyes on the second hand of my watch. I disagree that wearing a mechanical watch is pure fashion, there is a category for that and it is called fashion watches, with the Gucci, DW, Michael Kors and etc. I agree with you that there is a part of frivolity in wearing a luxury watch, but I don't think it's a big deal for most if they buy one luxury watch at a price lower than 10k. I think that there are plenty of watches in the sub 500$ category, like many Seiko, Orient, Vostok, Swatch and the likes. Many vintage watches can be found below the 1k mark too. Compare all that with the price of an Apple watch and the cost of buying a new one every few years, or having to buy another fashion watch because they cease to function out of cheapness, or because the cost of servicing it would be almost as high as buying a new one. Mechanical watches are objects of style and art that escapes obsolescence and their quality makes them last and escape the downsides of consumerism. I think that just like every man needs a suit (weddings, funerals, job interview, special events, etc), every man needs a good watch, may it be only an Orient Bambino for example. I agree that a smartwatch, or a sportswatch can be really useful, but only in certain contexts and they have no soul. I own a vintage Speedmaster, a Yema Pearldiver (my daily watch these days), a Seiko 5 SNK 809 and many Vostok Amphibia and Komandirskie (both new and soviet era vintage ones). I'm passionate about horology since 2017, but even before that I dreamed of owning a mechanical watch (my dad gave me a fake Rolex in 2010 and it got me to research on horology). I stopped wearing quartz watched around 2012, relied only on my phone for years, but now I find enjoyment and pleasure wearing mechanical watches and being in the watch world. There is peace of mind also, I can time my hikes with my Speedy, swim with my Yema and not be bothered by notifications. When I'm at the lake I want to time the time before I burn under the sun, not being annoyed by vibrations on my wrist at every notification. When I'm canoeing down a river, my phone is safely in the car and I can use my watch to track time and plan my day accordingly. When I go to formal events, I wear a watch that fits my outfit and it is refreshing to wear a different watch on different days. Of course an Apple watch has more functions than a mechanical watch, I'm not gonna pretend it's not a useful tool. But if I was to eventually own a smartwatch, I'll only wear it when needed, like I don't wear sportswear when I don't do sport. But, the other thing is, I hardly see what I could do with a smartwatch that my iPhone can't do. A mechanical watch is a way to express personality, build up personal style and be interested in a topic that escapes every day concerns. Plus, the aesthetic of nice watches is comforting every time I look at my wrist to check the time. I understand that not everyone can wear and own a luxury watch, would it be only because of the amount produced and not the price, but there is a lot out there to enjoy.

@Aztec1050

3 жыл бұрын

@@francisrobindaine-duchesne6095 I and my lovely Patek nautilus moonphase completely agree with you, in fact I do tend to look down on anyone who doesn’t at least have a Patek in his collection but I most of the time keep it to myself.

@kaym7704

2 жыл бұрын

Its because 30 year olds are practical…my apple watch is literally a computer on my wrist…the level of technology a watchmaker could never dream of nor achieve and above all, it tells time more accurately than any mechanical watch out there. Like why pay $20k for a piece of jewelry that just happens to tell time less accurately than my apple watch. Not our fault we don’t buy into the fashion marketing you guys fell into.

That yellow strap Christian is wearing looks freaking stunning!

@joyudeze3838

2 жыл бұрын

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I love these videos!!!!

General lack of risk tasking from the big brands. Microbrands are where the big risks are taken with more unusual designs - and big brands can pick up on trends later on with less risk - e.g. this Hamilton doing bronze is something other brands have been doing for a few years already

Great chemistry, funny, and informative.

Whatever happened to having fun? "The girls Just want to have it" this is the content that I am here for. Oh and beautiful watches but the banter is where it's at.

Absolutely amazing show with lots of infos and thoughts on watches! Very refreshing and entertaining. I totally agree on buying watches as expressing ones personality and taste and not follow the mainstream trends! 👍🏻😎👍🏻

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2 жыл бұрын

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I completely agree about the watches being boring. I have a hard time finding colorful and unique watches.

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2 жыл бұрын

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Boring= timeless= classy= consistent demand= strong value retention

@j5daniel182

3 жыл бұрын

with the exception of the ones who went for the "crazy" green submariners 10 years ago.

@peters2717

3 жыл бұрын

Most guys want one watch they can throw on, so there's that.

Here's the simplest reason we all want boring watchs. They are easier to compliment an outfit. Outlandish colors need match, ie red g shock can't be worn with blue. Black g shock csn be worn unverisally.

@kaym7704

2 жыл бұрын

So you’re saying that watches are simply jewelry for men.

@peters2717

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaym7704 watches are accessories, so is jewelry.

@kaym7704

2 жыл бұрын

@@peters2717 makes sense why someone would pay tens of thousands for a watch that simply tells time.

@peters2717

2 жыл бұрын

@@kaym7704 if they have the money then it's worth it. Watches are incredible, even my entry level ones inspire aw in me.

Great episode,

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2 жыл бұрын

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I have just added to my collection (20+ watches, from dress to Grand Seiko, to God-Tier Casio :-) ) a Swatch BioCeramic BLITE (light blue bezel with orange markers). Brands to consider when someone wants to move away from the standard 'boring' designs are IMHO Ulysse Nardin and Gio' Monaco

I really enjoy the schtick and the watch pontificating. Being millennials, you might not know who these people are, but the very natural and flowing banter between the two of you reminds me of Johnny Carson and his sidekick, Ed McMahon. Keep up the great work!

OMG I LOVE non-traditional watches. I love different shapes, and fun colors. I love stuff like the Hamilton Ventura line, Tissot’s Memphis collection, the amazing Reverso. Those are still a little “tame” for me but at least they are a little different. Micro brands are doing some interesting stuff too.

The Hamilton is beautiful, now I’m on the hunt. Thanks for putting me on guys

Such a cool shirt you're wearing Christian 👍

Good session

Great vid! Love the show and patter. I agree with the sentiments. The watch industry needs to evolve with the times, as do the consumers. As much as love watches, the arrogance and arguments around tradition and aesthetic are exhausting at times. Wear what you want, when you want. Wear it for yourself. Watch media. You can position yourself as high culture - sponsor golf, sailing and other high net worth activities. This doesn’t make you aspirational to me, nor luxury. It’s quite the opposite. You are actively dissuading me and many from the brands. Anyway, I also had a question…. Why the name Theo and Harris? Where did the name come from? I imagine this has been covered but I’ve always been curious. All the best, Andre.

The JLC is limited to 10 pieces. That kind of explains the pricetag.

Where is Anna? Is she still part of the company?

I really liked the content/discussion in this video. The idea that we should buy/wear what we "like" as opposed to picking the "safe/popular" watch that may retain its value better, but may not make us happy, is no way to live. I love the Bvlgari Octo Finissimo in steel, but part of me says, "That's not a good buy... better to get a steel Yacht Master because it should go up in value." The problem is, I LOVE the Octo FInissimo, and though the Yacht Master is a nice watch, it doesn't do anything for me, personally. Unless we are flipping watches, it doesn't make sense to buy "safe" if we don't even like the watch that much. The flip side to this thought process is I bought a Panerai several years ago (which I loved back then), but I have fallen out of love with it. If I had bought a steel sub back then, it would be worth double what I paid for it today... but I never really loved the sub (another very nice watch that doesn't make my heart soar). Again, I really liked the discussion in this video because I think every watch fan struggles with this type of buying decision. "Safe" often times does not lead to "happiness."

Aluminium is usually a little less durable than stainless steel but much lighter of course. Kids watches like the famous FlikFlaks were made from Aluminium! Love that Hublot's color! I like what you did here since I consider myself bold with my watches!

Interesting designs are more polarizing and people want everybody to like them. I’m late to the video but this was a really good one.

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2 жыл бұрын

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A watch made from aluminum would scratch pretty easily, I don’t think it’s the best choice of material

I think that JLC is more comparable to the enamel Calatrava’s. Either way I’m all in on these wild enamel watches …. Only problem is the price 😆

The old intro resurgence really made me nostalgic

Wearing a red G Shock watching you video. Have my vintage Tudor Prince on a red strap for summer. Watches should express you!

Ah, another episode of Sweaty Coke Bros. Nice.

@chucklepadory

3 жыл бұрын

Lmaooo

@BabyJesus66

3 жыл бұрын

Super Mario Bros less successful cousins.

Man, that was fun. I like all of those and would wear the hell out of that Hublot if I shopped at that price level.

@joyudeze3838

2 жыл бұрын

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Nothing wrong with flamboyant watches. I have plenty in the collection and love them. It's just that the more conservative designs are least like to clash with the wardrobe. Watches that can occupy the most spaces tend to get the most wrist time.

I want a Zénith Defy Ultraviolet, my wife say that this color is not appropriated. Why ?

@racegascustoms

3 жыл бұрын

She's gotta go!

beautiful GMT! Would wear that in the pool no doubt!

CHRISTIAN! Dude, where can I find that shirt. I need it.

If I'm going with a more expensive watch then it will be a "boring watch". Something that suits almost all situations. However, for the non boring watches the casio and timex price points will do for me. For the Hublot: Teal Casioak JLC Japanese inspired: Timex/The Met collab, or the swatch wave one. Hamilton bronze field watch: Timex Allied, comes black military style face and bronze coloured case. Or Boderry has one Bonus - GMT Pepsi Rolex: Timex Q pepsi GMT. These are more my budget for a non boring watch all under $200, most under $100. Inexpensive, eye catching, ok if I loose or break it, and just a fun piece to wear to like a casual work environment or hanging out. Not taking anything too seriously.

I think it's a few different things! I think Northern & Western Europeans like boring shiz! And I think so many of us just don't have the budgets to get a nice out-there kinda watch! I just have enough to get a few staples. I wish I had the money to get the out-of-the-box stuff! And I guess my final thought would also be practicality. Most of the strange watches I like are a bit more dressy! And wouldn't get enough wear for me to justify the price. BUT, EVERYTHING I HAVE SAID HERE, y'all have said in your video! So fantastic & fascinating. Thank you for this guys!

this video made me wanna go to swatch's online store. well done

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2 жыл бұрын

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When will the omega films come out ??

Hey Christian. Can you PLEASE do a review of the JLC Master Control Sector Dial limited edition? I want to pull the trigger on this watch but need more opinions. I trust yours. None of these models online? Why?

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2 жыл бұрын

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I love wearing my yellow G-Shock GA-2100

7:32 god bless you Christian!

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2 жыл бұрын

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I love swatch

I now pronounce Hublot like that among my friends and they all think I'm a dummy. I can't stop laughing when they get annoyed

Christian, where do you buy your glasses and do you have a prescription? It's all we really care about honestly!

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2 жыл бұрын

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Corum Bubble... Never boring, always a conversation piece.

Please make a prx watch strap

Timeless fashion is often ... boring. The nice thing about an item you wear that isn't courageous in its look is that you can wear it for decades.

@OuijTube

3 жыл бұрын

This ties in with cost, too. When you've got Rolex dreams on a Timex income, you need the expensive watch to go with as many outfits as possible. That means you go for relatively understated watches. Drop the price down to Timex/Swatch/G Shock levels and the risk drops. You an have a big variety of "fun" watches for the same money.

I wear a bright orange G-Shock DW-5600WS-4JF and the crazy red and black watchmaker motif System 51 (the irony :p)

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2 жыл бұрын

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How is a Reverso $95k, because it has a wavy green dial?

We dont have to like anything no matter if its a cheap red plastic watch or an ap with blue dial, of course people could be more daring and creative but if they are only a few end up with 'loud' and supposedly 'fun' pieces. For me the interesting watches are lesser known vintage models and certainly not a red swatch or a hublot and I have a lot of fun with them even if they are quite restrained in their design, so where the fun lies is quite individual

Hamilton kaki bronz looks fucking sweet, first time that model has really caught my attention

I think that the reason is that if you spend a lot of money on a "crazy design" watch you feel you can get bored pretty fast, therefore people buy watches that will last in time in that sense.

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2 жыл бұрын

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where is that beautiful oxford from????

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2 жыл бұрын

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just got my first GMT after 10-15 years of collecting... it's a Zodiac in the bright green Ltd Edition (not boring) basically my Rolex AD is garbage and can't get me anything so this will have to do for now, lol.

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2 жыл бұрын

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I’d wear a bright watch for a small cost. But I wouldn’t go and buy an expensive watch with a bright dial because it wouldn’t go with as many outfits as the ‘boring’ black/navy dial would and I couldn’t afford to have 1-2 luxury watches with it being a mad bright colour.

If the watch is serviced and rated for submission, then you can swim with it!

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2 жыл бұрын

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Hublot ? I prefer the Casio Oak !

Rolex - ach yah. Hublot - ich don’t think so!

66k euros is not 100k USD in today’s trading.

Be who you are first!! If you like color wear it and enjoy. I have different styles in my collection because some days you want a bold look or a conservative look it doesn't matter. This thing we share about watches is about fun and personal taste. We are a small community in a big world.

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2 жыл бұрын

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Fun is the new two tone Rolex exploi

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2 жыл бұрын

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That's a good description of Hublot and RM watches. They are fun. They aren't worth even a fraction of their price, but they are fun. If I was a billionaire, I would throw away a couple thousand on that turquoise Hublot as a laugh. However, spending tens or hundreds of thousands o a Hublot or RM is just tasteless.

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2 жыл бұрын

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Who had the lucky comment from the last strap giveaway?

That Hokusai JLC is a great watch.. However this artists work has been slapped on all sorts of merchandise recently (uniqlo Tee’s for example) which is really diluting how amazing it is. Feels like a ‘fashion’ watch at $95k which is a strange move by JLC, something I would have expected from Swatch or something.

Hublot is coping Casio G-Shock with that green thing, only difference, The G-Shock is better.

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2 жыл бұрын

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Regarding the "boring watch thing", it may be more that, regardless of what the internet community believes, the market is more heavily determined by individuals that don't want to buy several watches. Venturing into the luxury sphere isn't something the average consumer would want to do more than once or twice; the purchase is usually a capstone to an achievement or event. The Rolex palm dial is incredibly cool, but the people that would buy that would be people that already own a "sober" Rolex/Cartier/etc. The red g-shock/yellow swatch argument is very reasonable, though. It would be nice to see folks be more playful in their attire.

"Boring" exists for a reason. You wouldn't show up to a wedding in an Hublot would you? No, you'd probably show up in a Cellini if you've got the budget for it. I myself have my "fun" watch which is my Seiko Giugiaro Speedmaster. It's bold, brash and quartz funny enough. But it's SO cool. I wear it super casually if I have an outfit that wouldn't fit my other watches. Fun is casual. Boring is more likely to be formal.

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2 жыл бұрын

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If you guys brought an extra shirt we wouldn't know you recorded two episodes at the same time.

I used to despise this KZread channel until these videos started happening

free anna

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2 жыл бұрын

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What happened to Theo and Harris? Who are these two?

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2 жыл бұрын

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Preach. If you want 10 black pilot watches, then that’s fine. If you want a watch for every color in the rainbow. F it why not

Hublot couldn't mange to get all the bezel/case screws in some sort of order? "Nah! let's just randomize them... we're so fun!"

@chia-mingyang5804

3 жыл бұрын

In watch industry, almost no any brand lines screws up.

Your comments about boring are prescient now - people complaining about Tudor trying to add a little extra to the look of the Pelagos 39: ‘make it just like the 42 but smaller! Ree!’

At 21k its side splitting!!!

Ish don't think so or Vhats up? Christian is definitely vhats up.

If the Hublot had Casio G Shock written all over I’d buy it this afternoon, but because it’s a Hublot I’d rather have anal surgery in the woods with a stick than drap that thing across my wrist. Crazy, I know.

@Drizay1221

9 ай бұрын

It is a G Shock copy. And so should be priced accordingly.

It's the same thing with cars... if you don't have the same thing everyone else has in a shade of grey, people will hate it. Most people can't stand anything that sticks out from the crowd. Most people are boring.

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2 жыл бұрын

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Al-u-min-i-um, say it.

@drfathertime

3 жыл бұрын

Al-m-inum

But Theo & Harris seems to only wear and promote “boring” watches on this channel? 🤷🏼‍♂️

Michael needs a title…

Theo reminds me a lot of Michael Knowles how he looks and talks.

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2 жыл бұрын

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Can I also choose to buy a watch from the dude on the left? He seems to be more trustworthy.

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2 жыл бұрын

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Hublot? No. I'am right. And I am.

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2 жыл бұрын

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Nice to see diversity. You’re so open but what about poor Anna. Only in America,eh?

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2 жыл бұрын

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"Well, pipes carry things too" ,,,,I'm dead now, I woke my wife up laughing so hard...

I FUCKING LOVE Brüno, one of the best movies ever!!

Chemistry kinda sus but enjoy the content

Christian laments people wearing conservative watches. While wearing a 36mm Rolex Datejust (or maybe it's the vintage Omega Seamaster)

you can already tell the watches they would like based on the clothes they wear on their vids. Most watch youtubers are on the boring side when it comes to fashion.

@koolpep

3 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed. Most youtubers are the last person on earth I would take style advise from. Makes you think…..