This city could also use a local market for just small businesses in the area and make it pedestrian only, with roads along the outside for deliveries only. But I'd like to emphasize that I absolutely love this build and I could watch this every day

@kaltaron1284

2 жыл бұрын

That's a great idea. I also think he could use RICO to turn some of those houses into offices. I mean it's not unusual that such houses get turned into offices for solicitors or stuff like that.

@William_W

2 жыл бұрын

It definitely could use that!!

I cannot express how much I enjoy the new format of the talky bit at the start of the videos, Biffa has such a fantastic voice and cadence and it's a neat way of expanding on how stuff works both in real life and in Skylines

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines

2 жыл бұрын

Thankyou 😁 👍

@hrani

2 жыл бұрын

@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines You're very welcome, have a wonderful weekend!

@tornado_smith

2 жыл бұрын

Have to say I find it really tedious. Reminds me of all the mandatory training vids I sit through at work.

@BrookeKnits

2 жыл бұрын

And Hugo's adventures lol

@honeycheerios42

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

Hey, just a suggestion from a cyclist - just keep the cycle lanes to main routes and cut thrus. There's no point having them everywhere. You could replace the roads with roads with trees or grass. Thanks 🙂

@OpenMindet

2 жыл бұрын

Or parking, what is missing there

@memofromessex

2 жыл бұрын

@@OpenMindet Cars - booooo! 😜

@3dmaster205

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, yes, classical cyclist, so hardcore they're willing to risk their lives for cycling - and apparently perfectly fine with being pro-car centric development that will get them killed, and won't get more people cycling. Normal old people, who just want the most convenient and safest way to get places, wouldn't be caught dead on a painted bicycle gutter on a main route; because they realize they would be literally caught dead. If you want lots of normal people to be cyclers to alleviate car traffic your bicycle infrastructure needs to be as separated from cars as possible, and should be far away from any main arterial. Roads for cycles should have traffic calming measures to keep cars from going fast. It's exactly small roads that can make do with Cycle lanes; larger roads either need a complete separate bicycle path; or you design roads and streets and such cyclers cars have their own streets designed with mainly them in mind, and cyclers will use those streets, while cars can get on the main roads for them; so the two stay safely separate.

A rural style market town would look good. It could have a market square, the old fashioned type that sit in front of a church, or something like that.

On the Motorway I reckon it should be made into a ‘smart’ motorway with those periodic speed signs of overhead gantries. Would in my opinion make it look a little more British looking. Also when airports are unlocked by the Airport you should make an area next to it like the NEC with convention centre halls, a big shopping centre, a couple hotels and various activity centres,

@l3v1ckUK

2 жыл бұрын

Real motorways shouldn't be made into 'smart' motorways, so there's no way we should make these ones 'smart' too.

@Aetherish

2 жыл бұрын

@@l3v1ckUK seen it happen to the motorways by where I live and they are used to help maintain the flow of traffic during heavy peaks to help maintain the flow of traffic, as well as manage the traffic flow if there has been an accident on there.

@chrisbrookes1167

Жыл бұрын

The original smart motorways where the hard shoulder became an extra lane were ok, because when you were using the hard shoulder it was busy and there was a lower speed limit. The dangerous ones are the all lane running motorways where there’s no hard shoulder, only emergency bays.

0:00 Jumpability in your city seems pretty high too

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines

2 жыл бұрын

I saw that 🤣

I think your bus routes could do with some tweaking as you've got some routes going absolutely everywhere. A solution would be to have more lines starting from say the bus station and having them spread out serving one or two areas only.

@NotKnafo

2 жыл бұрын

so you say to teak the lines by reducing the number of them? why?

@MetroTitanD78

2 жыл бұрын

@@NotKnafo no increasing the number of lines but having them more streamlined and not going everywhere in giant loops.

@NotKnafo

2 жыл бұрын

@@MetroTitanD78 while its not a problem i could agree this is a more realistic bus route approach

Hi Biffa, I love this build. The main thing I think it is missing are schoolyards and playing fields at each school. The poor kids must be stuck in lessons all day.

Great episode Biffa! Since you're talking about walkability, one thing that always bugged me was how you had the canalside paths beside the Wold go up to street level and made people cross the road at the bridges. I've walked canalside/riverside paths in many cities - including some in the UK - that just run under the bridges, and they work wonderfully. No horde of pedestrians appearing at bridges and then disappearing again. You can even have a whole park beside the river - makes a great flood soak IRL - and just have the bridges run over the park, splitting it into little sections that have a single path connecting them all. Maybe something to try along the Wold in another section if you don't want to rebuild the existing setup. :D

That nice new Croydon estate could really do with a community pub/eatery with outside seating etc. It's looing good mate, enjoying this and would like to see it grow to have little towns and settlements dotted around the map and then connected by public transport.

Next episode you could make a service station along the motorway. Maybe add a McDonald’s or Greggs on it. Service stations seem to be a common sight in the UK.

At 17:20 the use of dedicated lanes means that there is now just one lane feeding two downstream on a main arterial, better to have the left turn also a straight on. Lane mathematics works at junctions too.

I’ve been updating KZread’s starting page about 20 times today, just hoping there where new content from you! Thank you Biffa! You’re the best! 😍 love this Uk-series!!

I think the smaller cul-de-sac roads would be better off without bike lanes on each individual ones (maybe not for the games weird logic but certainly for realism), maybe just on that slightly more main road that goes round the back by the park and similar. The only smaller residential roads with bike lanes/markings in the UK are mostly on London’s “Quietway” cycling network for quieter cycling routes, and only tend to be on specific paths and routes as opposed to every single road

35:12 when you were putting in the bus line. You almost need a mini bus terminal. I was looking at "Nonstop Bus Terminal" It should be a good to place where you can make a neighborhood bus loop and then just have a bus route to go to between it and a major hub.

I think I saw people cycling on the path 13 minutes in, as well as on the workshop overpass. I've seen that in my own city, and I wonder if the "encourage biking" policy allows for that. Also, I've been re-watching all your old cities (just restarted New Tealand), and your ONI series; thanks for all the great content!

@thesteelrodent1796

2 жыл бұрын

normally if you have bike paths anywhere in the city your people will use it as long it connects to places they want to go

@sylpha51

2 жыл бұрын

I mis new tealand 😭

Ooh I really like those blue bike roads, but there's no need to have literally every street be one. I'd prefer just that one long street and the new collector road servicing Croydon Gardens extension, if that's at all possible. Alternatively maybe a separate bike path next to the collector?

@3dmaster205

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, god no; that's a four lane major arterial road; no bicycles should be on such a road; if bicycles get "on" such a road it requires a completely separated protected bicycle path, not merely some painted bicycle gutters. Way to dangerous.

@edwardmiessner6502

2 жыл бұрын

@@3dmaster205 So then a narrow 4-lane road with a separate bikepath

@3dmaster205

2 жыл бұрын

@@edwardmiessner6502 That's an option in real life; I don't know if the game has the right unit roads and bike paths to fit that in the existing roads / between the existing houses. I'm afraid Biffa is going to make some houses disappear if he tries that.

@aylim3088

2 жыл бұрын

@@3dmaster205 honestly that's better than the quality of bike paths in 99% of the uk anyway xd

@edwardmiessner6502

2 жыл бұрын

@@3dmaster205 If there's a DLC or a mod that can make bike paths zoneable the houses shouldn't disappear. Also placing a 2-unit invisible road next to a narrow four lane road and running the bike path in the invisible road with road anarchy on may be possible.

Another great video, I wish they were longer and more frequent though I could watch these for hours quite happily. I feel like the wave trade isn't quite enough, perhaps you could build 'the original high street' somewhere perhaps in small sections long the new large road along where you've expanded Croydon gardens?

@stephenreardon2698

2 жыл бұрын

There already is a high street type area just opposite The Wave. This could be expanded, then another large housing area added around it

Great video, I'm a huge fan of when you focus on connectivity for cyclists and pedestrians 😃

Love the blue bike lanes, although these roads do not have any parking on them. Maybe you could consider adding a few parking lots in the new area?

Love the new estate, needs a pub if you ask me. Also, every road with a cycle lane looks a bit crazy and probably a bit unrealistic in my opinion, but a cycle lane would look better along the dual carriage way, if there's such a road? I would imagine the T junction on the dual carriage way will need to be upgraded to a roundabout too when the new tile is unlocked. Well done.

@JamesKennedy33

2 жыл бұрын

A local boozer is a great shout!

@3dmaster205

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, no! Cycle lanes do not belong on a massive dual carriage roads; in real life, nobody but hardcore cyclists is going to make use of it; because it's WAY to dangerous. Bicycles do not belong on major car roads. Cycle lanes, also known as a painted bicycle gutters when applied to those major car roads, belong on smaller roads exactly where Biffa put them. For major arterials bicycles need their own separate path, or a different road that is built with bicycles in mind, and discouraging car usages that functions as the main bicycle arterial. Bicycles and pedestrians should be kept from motorized vehicles as much as possible, and especially from high speed major through roads.

@pgmetcalf

2 жыл бұрын

@@3dmaster205 Dude, you're soapboxing, this is not the place for it

@danielxmiller

2 жыл бұрын

@@pgmetcalf I liked reading his comment. Perhaps it is the place for it!

@pgmetcalf

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielxmiller Nope, it's someone else's thread. If people want to discuss politics perhaps they should do it on a thread designed for that purpose

The land value is so high so you should make house level 5

Oh I really like those blue bike lanes, but I feel like only the outer roads should have them to allow people to park in front of their houses. Maybe even add a very small parking lot next to the dog park so if people from other neighborhoods like to use that dog park

@3dmaster205

2 жыл бұрын

And that's how you destroy bikeability and harm the functiioning of your city; prioritizing cars over everything else, especially since these houses are clearly big enough to have their own garages or parking space on their own driveway.

You never want to use ONLY bike lane roads, you've given no street parking to that entire new residential neighborhood you created. Looking at the neighboring areas, street parking is definitely needed. Use a mix of bike lane roads and regular roads. Sims will bike on the sidewalks of regular roads to get to the bike lane roads.

I think it makes the city so alive to see people walking and bicycling! Really is a beautiful city! Like the idea of a golf course mentioned in comments. Haven't see that before! Love your videos!

Perfect topic as I've scrapped at LEAST 20 cities in an effort to make a real life (ish) model of a functional city that ALLOWS cars, but does not service them so heavily that walking is no longer final or primary transportation to destinations!

Lovely estate to live in right next to the water works. That's going to be lovely in the summer.

Big suggestion - see if someone has made a British-themed terminus station(s), and see about replacing the one in the transport hub with one of those you hopefully can find. I think it would really improve the feel of the transport hub by creating something ideal. Another suggestion - trying to building on the land between the two blocks of the city, to sort of connect them together, and make it feel like a good city.

Having in the past worked in the Croydon in south London, I flinch, (I'm not a fan), when the name Croydon Gardens is mentioned. Croydon is said to be from Anglo-Saxon meaning for "Crocus Valley", but I guess I'm too late to suggest a name change to "Crocus Gardens" based merely on my bias. 😀

Thanks for another fun video! Before you build the new commercial area I suggest you build a forked extension to your beautiful viaduct and bring trains into it at an elevated level. Lots of opportunity for under-bridge shops, garages and night clubs!

You could add some deco children's play equipment and/or benches and bins in the little corners which are too small for houses and too small to fit a park/plaza asset.

Always a joy to watch and listen to you whenever you upload Biffa, keep up the quality work! :) For the new section of Croydon Gardens, maybe extend the nearest subway to have a stop near the shops/services area, to help prevent future traffic from nearby areas?

First couple of second in and it seems that the two arterials conecting the wold with the farm estate and the city can be connected to create a heart shape. Well not thw most efficient proposal but surely spreads the love around.

Cheers!! keep coming back to your Series on Cities Skylines. I was shocked to realize this game was first released in 2015 - you help manage to keep it fresh so my thanks to you !!

and the fun part about this is, all the problems and their solution apply to real cities aswell. i'm looking at you, america, even a game has better non-car infrastructur

@3dmaster205

2 жыл бұрын

More so than that; a game designed around car-centric horrible American cities (since Skylines is mostly a implementation of the Sim City model, as they capitalized on last Sim City completely failing) still has better non-car stuff than American cities (though granted, most of them come from mods.)

Please expand to the lake next! Filling in The Wold all to the water would be fantastic!

Loving the new Croydon Gardens extension. Those blue cycle lanes look great.

Love the 40 minute video! Always great content can’t wait for the next!

Really pleased to see some more pedestrian/bike-friendly city access! I love this series, thanks as always for the great content

I would really love to see a first person drive through this city… who else is with me?

Great video (as always) I do agree that walkability/bikability is good! I have basically none in my cities and I need to get some more!

Another nice build, Biffa - coming from a nation of cyclists this was very appreciated🤩🙏🏼 Where I live the blue bike lanes are only used in dangerous junctions to make the cyclists and car drivers more aware, but what you did works well too. Keep up the good work and sip lots of tea ☺☺

I’m surprised 31:30 wasn’t your thumbnail for this one. Those upgrades were sweet, sweet music!

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines

2 жыл бұрын

Almost did, but wouldn't have necessarily fit the overall theme I was going for 👍

I love your videos, it's the highlight of my Saturday mornings! I do miss the antics are the beginning though. I liked it when you highlighted some event and laughed about it.

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍 I liked those too but these intros retain more viewers for longer 😁

Totally enjoyed the video :) So nice to see such a pedestrian friendly city :)

Croydon Gardens Loop line needs a counterloop. It's not efficient to go all the way around the loop if you need to get a couple of stops in another direction. You could also extend the metro line from the football field to the new district (possibly till Shops & Offices) so people could get to the city center quicker.

I’m loving the focus towards walkability

Hey, I think it would be cool to add some kind of race track or karting track to the area as a tourist attraction 😀

When you changed that zone to level four, it sounded like a casino machine that hit the jackpot. :D

Hey biffa, i don’t know if you noticed, it the overpass on the motorway is a bit to low, some busses don’t fit under the bridge and just hit it, maybe you can lift it up a bit, btw I love your vids, keep up the good work

That new bus line at the end, don't just connect it to the other bus lines - extend it a teeny bit more and connect it to the metro!

In my builds I strictly use bike lane roads everywhere other than the highway. And any empty space I can make connections whether bridge or tunnel gets an ped path. Seems to help traffic tremendously in vanilla

Love the city but everytime you put a new bus route I wonder why don't you use the modern double decked buses?! I think it would be beautiful!

Btw the normal in-game path does allow pedestrians AND Bikes to go on it, you don't need to upgrade them all.

The new bike lane mad housing estate should have its own zone and name, something Oxford related was all I could think while I was watching this build, maybe "Oxford Gardens"? With every policy against cars and pro bikes enabled?

I thought that this was a not just bikes or one of those city planning video

More good stuff Biffa!! Love those ped crossings!

At 14:12, there is a floating tree across the road from the river near the new crosswalk. If you go down to road level on that crosswalk and look toward the bus station you will see it. I guess with advancement in technology, future trees in The Wold are now grown in the air to save on land use. Also when you connected the new residential neighborhood up to the park, wouldn't it make sense to extend the park coverage and add park entrances and exits, rather than just straight paths to the streets?

Lovely new estate, very nice cycle district but removes all and any onstreet parking for the entire area 😀 plus you mention culdesacs and then didn't do any. I'd like a Tesco on that junction, a chipshop and a pub please 👍😁

0:24. That truck tho. Running over the NPC’S….So realistic. 😂

The park benefits expand from park entrances. You not only let people enter for free, the people further away aren't getting their deserved happiness bonus.

Biffa, I don't know if you'll ever see this message but i just wanted to say thank you. You make my life more enjoyable with your videos, keep up the great work !

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you MarshyGaming :-)

Im sure the people living in this new residential area will have a great time seeing the smoke rise from the crematorium in their neighborhood. Especially those that go to the doctor‘s right next to it. 😅

This made my saturday to se you building and fixing. Sooooooooo fantastic.

Sounds like you already have it planned, but a business park build would be really nice, I don't think you've done one on this map yet. Try to make it British-style with the road layout etc rather than a US-style grid. Couple of sad-looking trees that haven't quite put down strong enough roots yet, and an ugly security fence around the whole thing. Maybe see if you can find a 'totem' sign for the entrance off the main road.

Everytime I see your videos in irl I'm like YES I AGREE and then realize it's a biffa video and just go 🥴🤦🏽‍♀️

Biffa: here's a lovely shot of a bridge over the river in the wold Cities Skylines: have some dimensional tearing beeatch!

I still have so much to learn in this game! This video was so inspiring to make my city more walkable, which is definitely something I strive for in the city I'm building! Traffic management has become the bane of my existence haha and I'm so thankful for these great ideas!

hey Biffa, perhaps you could try and add in a golf course somewhere as some type of park. I think it would fit quite well in your map Love your vids

Well, now you need to create a shirt with a world on it and one pedestrian path going around the world, added by a "scream" text: "BIFFA! What did you do???" Or you could put the text on it: "42 isn't always the answer." ;-)

Great city love it keep up the great work Biffa need a airport soon.

I could've swear that I saw him already doing this pedestrian path in another episode, not with a bridge, but underpass. am i going crazy? :D

I got recommended your channel today and I’ve just been binge watching a bunch of your videos about traffic, there were a lot of things I didn’t know about for managing traffic flow and keeping cars off the road, makes me want to get back into playing C.S.

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome aboard!

Great to finally catch up on this week's jaunt into Blightea. You were looking for areas to expand your urban/suburban population. May I suggest the following. There is the area opposite The Wave that you started to turn into a more traditional town centre. expanding that, with denser urban areas immediately around it (you already have the flats on one side), could answer some of your commercial, office & residential needs. Then add some lower density modern suburbs beyond that towards the higher ground to cap off that end of town

Biffa modernizes the towns. Great work.

I think you should add in a path with zoning, put down houses and add in a multi-storey outside the estate

Thank you for showing me how to lay out the bike lanes. I've been waiting quite some time.

You could put a trail between St Giles West and East Kettling. They are close enough together that Cims will walk (let alone bike) that far.

Hi Biffa. Another fine addition to Blightea... I upgraded loads of my roads and added bycicle paths all over the place last evening... More to do but there is now a safe route for folk to ride safely from south of my city to the north. And its being used loads! #inspiredbybiffa

that cyclist at 9:50 going up and downstairs was really funny.

BIFFA 26:55 Did You just gave those ppl a FREE access to the park ??!! Shaaaameee squeeeze them out !!

The area are 21:30 looks like a leaf, with roads being veins and all. maybe a nice name would be "The Tea Leaf" for it :)

Love all the pedestrian activity! Really makes it come to life. I know in reality the estates probably wouldn’t have great connectivity, but a road that connects them to each other in the middle, would help people get about more (and would spread the range of your services in this area). I think you would probably also have some residential areas spring up around the train station, as lots of people would want to live close to the great transport links :)

I love this series, bro! Kinda sad you didnt use the corner villa’s in Croydon Gardens though….

19:40 change from MPH to MPH and goes like "yeaah" LOL

All bridges across motorway should be at a minimum of 16.6" or 5.03m otherwise they have to be signposted at the height they are. good way of seeing if your Heights across the motorway of your Walkways are right.

i get so excited when one of your videos come out

hello there, I hope your having a good day and thank you for your content Biffa, I love your videos they make my day.

Also don't forget where there is a lot of pedestrian and road activity that needs help crossing one another is the street around your triangle shopping district. Hope you get back to fixing that area properly.

That elevated path next to the estates screams "major crime area."

It's a bummer that there are no stairs in the vanilla game. It would be fun to be able to build such pedestrian overpasses oneself.

@danonck

2 жыл бұрын

Or in general being able to overcome terrain with stairs instead of only building on flat terrain or ending up with wonky paths

I reckon this needs an old town area with the old high street, pedestrians only, leisure commercial, the main town church/catehdral, the city offices and some other tourist attractions

@stephenreardon2698

2 жыл бұрын

Biffa started to build one opposite The Wave. There still plenty of space over there to expand the High Street concept, as well as adding plenty of different residential areas

When you joined the new estate to the long park you forgot to put in the managed gates, so your new owners can get in free!

@stephenreardon2698

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure that this Park was ever properly gated. I don't think Biffa was charging for it anyway

36:18 The campfire burned down 🤣

Biffa I would like to see more taxi cabs in your cities because there is not enough taxi cabs in the city for people to get around besides walking biking taking the bus taking the train taking the subway

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines

2 жыл бұрын

They don't really work in CS, never have :-(

@matttree8948

2 жыл бұрын

@@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines ok and Biffa I would like to see in your cities by Elementary schools I would like to see a playground and in your cities I would like to see some pools for people to go swimming in your cities and I would like you to try traffic lights on one of your roundabouts in your cities to see how that works out

32:38 Little bit of kindling in that fire MaxLOL

@TS_Mind_Swept

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to mention how this the title of this video reminded me of the Biking is Better song from Wintergatan (which Is a really neat song and you should definitely check it out ;p) but that moment was just too hilarious to ignore LUL

Kinda surprised Biffa didn't make the pedestrian overpass at the beginning into a park. Either to make infinite money or just to count how many people are taking the pedestrian overpass.

I really like the new intro style! Thx for the 40 minute vid btw

@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines

2 жыл бұрын

Thankyou 😁

Funny how people are allowed to drive a whopping 50 mph on that tiny bridge at The Wold :D Yes I'm still watching this series and I absolutely love it. Still having troubles with getting all of it to work (aka: getting CTD's despite turning almost everything else off), but I'll get there, and I'll build myself a UK city too!

Awesome as always 👏 😎 👌