*Windows* Pro: You can name a file *PRO* Con: You can't name a file *CON*

@edthanoll1923

4 жыл бұрын

Godamn it why did I laugh at this..

@alditube

4 жыл бұрын

The same Joke like the top comment, but worse

@suhcheuy268

4 жыл бұрын

NICE

@Arterexius

4 жыл бұрын

This comment is underestimated 😂

@olbradley

3 жыл бұрын

@@Arterexius That's not what estimated means...

Cons and pros of modern windows file convention. Pro: you can use punctuation. Con: you still can't use con.

@unocualqu1era

4 жыл бұрын

More like Pro: you can use punctuation. The specified device name is invalid

@CScottyW

4 жыл бұрын

Missed opportunity to say “con: there are no cons”

@JoeyLindsay

4 жыл бұрын

I think you can use punctuation in Unix/Linux systems

@predicate

4 жыл бұрын

con: no cons

@dhruvchawla5476

4 жыл бұрын

Why can't they just use ext4 :( I know it won't fix the naming issue but ext4 > ntfs

In 2018, after finalizing my thesis, I thought of naming the three individual files that I would send to my groupmates "CON", "GRAT", and "ULATIONS". We didn't have a file format or anything since we had to physically print and hardbound the manuscript, so I wanted the names to be lighthearted. CON.pdf wouldn't work and I got sucked into a rabbit hole of why files can't be named "CON". Ended up naming the files "CONG", "RAT", and "ULATIONS". This video reminded me of that time!

@diva3530

Жыл бұрын

imagine someone seeing the file 'rat' anf then opening it to expect a rat image

@FunAngelo2005

Жыл бұрын

@@cat1554 RAT

@bitchassmoththing

Жыл бұрын

RAT.pdf

@doplop

Жыл бұрын

RAT

@jinxlover321

Жыл бұрын

cong rat

I gotta say, that kind of backwards compatability is what makes much of my corporate work even feasible. Sometimes you need the one specific way of accessing a file that people stopped using a decade ago because its worse than the rest in 90% of cases but makes a workaround for the current situation possible.

@mjbianks

Жыл бұрын

Backwards compatibility is what allows younger generations access and explore what someone 20, 40 or so years ago worked on and gain knowledge from it. At an infrastructure level systems that were put in place to manage telecom or power networks can be so dated that you need that backwards compatibility just to create new and up to date documentation and even then you keep the originals as reference material.

@DanielDuhon

2 ай бұрын

Workarounds are bad though. That’s what causes crap like this to persist because someone didn’t want to actually just fix the problem.

When Tom said you could open a Word file from 30 years ago I thought to myself "Wait, they had Word in the '70s?" But no, 30 years ago it was the '90s.

@josue285

4 жыл бұрын

This comment made me make dad noises.

@rentbennett

4 жыл бұрын

MS-DOS came out in 1981, so you could be opening almost 40 year old text files.

@toyamwarr

4 жыл бұрын

My thought was “what computer has a spot for a floppy disc?”

@MohitJouhari

4 жыл бұрын

80's. And how old are you?

@goonerw27

4 жыл бұрын

Office 2010+ cannot open Word 2.0 documents. :(. It can still open Word 97 docs though.

Tom Scott: Have you ever wondered about why [obscure fact I've never wondered about]? Me: Well, I sure do now

@viktor7712

4 жыл бұрын

spoilt milk that’s how it is indeed

@senza4591

4 жыл бұрын

Thats tom scott for you

@plogoo1

4 жыл бұрын

Hes wrong. You actually CAN name a directory "CON". From command line type "mkdir \\?\C:\CON" . This will create at folder 📂 at the root of the C:\ drive called CON.

@cicada3312

4 жыл бұрын

I was like, whaaaaaat, let me try it

@CZghost

4 жыл бұрын

I was actually wondering before, because I somehow found out I cannot save certain filenames and folder names ("con" being one of them), I was actually trying to save those files as an abbreviation to something (I believe "con" was staying for "contact" or "connect" or something similar). It is possible to create those files (or folders) somewhere inside your file tree, but those objects cannot be accessed, nor can you save anything to these files, folders, you cannot remove them and cannot access them. That also means that access denied will deny also removal (it is possible to remove those bugged files and folders, but not with conventional methods). Reason is simple. System thinks you are trying to access a device port that no longer works (or method of access doesn't support that device or simply that device isn't installed), instead of accessing the newly created object. To remove that file or folder (or rename them or otherwise access them), you have to use another operating system (preferably Unix based). Windows/DOS based systems won't be able to interact with these files/folders. A bug in Windows (still present to this day) allows with a special way to create those sort of objects, with no seemable way to interact with them (not even for removal). Linux of course allows creation of those files (heck it allows for creating othwerise conflicting names because unlike Windows/DOS where all files and folders were originally only alphanumerical capital letters based names, the Linux file systems support case sensitive naming (so a file called "Larry" is different than file called "larry"). It is worth noting that it won't work on Windows based file systems (FAT32, NTFS). However, Linux won't check for the reserved file names so it will still allow you to create a file or folder named "con" and such.

Tom, you are correct. Some major financial institutions in the UK and US still need to use OS/2 for their computing needs.

@Riverrockphotos

Жыл бұрын

I know its super crazy. I have a loan through a place that still uses some crazy old windows dos system.

@chudite

Жыл бұрын

@@Riverrockphotos What does the version of windows look like? Does it have a minus button on the left side of the titlebar?

@richardsequeirateixeira

Жыл бұрын

Bank of America still uses Windows NT 3.51

@BobSmith-dk8nw

Жыл бұрын

The thing is - a company would have a program created to perform a function. Once that program was in use - as long as it performed the function it was designed for - and didn't need to have modifications to it made - they could just keep right on running that program. If they changed anything - they might mess it up - so they just kept everything running just the way it always had. One problem here - is that the tools that were used to create the program and in fact the source code for that program might be archived on media that they were no longer able to access - as they no longer had a system that could read it. Where a company can no longer access their archived programs and data, there are companies whose business is accessing older media - for a price. .

@vanhuvanhuvese2738

Жыл бұрын

@@Riverrockphotos it shows that you need old tech to have money to lend and the latest tech will have you looking for money from the old tech owners 😂

Ironic that Windows is so cautious in making any changes that could affect the backwards compatibility of important documents, yet they seem to break my PC with almost every update they put out with pleasure.

@UltraZelda64

Ай бұрын

There is a way to fix that, and it generally involves switching to an operating system that allows you to name files "CON".

if you name a Minecraft world "con" it will re-name it "_con_"

@user-mm5nc2nm5o

4 жыл бұрын

Makes sense. Really.

@evangreavu9621

4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if Notch had to put that in...

@kaziahscats

4 жыл бұрын

Magic

@patrioticwhitemail9119

4 жыл бұрын

*printer starts making cutout origami blocks

@RaidenGen

4 жыл бұрын

@@evangreavu9621 My guess is not. But I might be completely wrong here.

It's not the computing museum without that static noise your ears can't pick anymore.

@DomenBremecXCVI

4 жыл бұрын

It's there tho. Can't you hear it?

@CJFreeza

4 жыл бұрын

The ping pang of the dial up. The sound of real connection.

@potatoface4698

4 жыл бұрын

* *Laughs in tinnitus ear ringing* *

@bootifulb4427

4 жыл бұрын

@@potatoface4698 mood

@mattwinward3168

4 жыл бұрын

@Domen Bremec Every. Waking. Moment.

Naming folders CON on my linux machine to assert dominance.

This is the exact reason why I always use some version of windows and have never switched to mac, even though I love the workflow that my friend has setup on her mac when producing audio and doing art projects. I am constantly hooking up old junk and using super old audio devices with very old cables, and its nice to be able to still hook up old things to run within the new software i use. Plus when I'm bored I start pulling out all my old computers, audio mixers, synthesizers, drum machines, and all manner of random junk in my computer room, just to play with it all and mess around. It's also awesome that I can still run DOS in windows ten to play old ass video games ^^

@goldnutter412

2 жыл бұрын

VMware hell of a drug, always used to have a hardware device for "off book" work kinda thing.. but it has to be plugged in to access something doors swing both ways etc.. makes security take much longer than we all expected, heh good thing we have genius coders out there, much appreciate them It is awesome they added Linux on Windows you can actually create a very low risk env now

@goldnutter412

2 жыл бұрын

ah now i remember why i started commenting and reading at the same time check out NDC conferences if you like smart people WOW they taught me so much just by putting their videos online. LESSONS FROM APOLLO and ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS are soooooooo good

@blairlohnes8103

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. But now I have a house full of old Macs because I need them and old Windows PC's because they are cool... I swear I'm not a hoarder.

@adrienneclarke3953

2 жыл бұрын

Same. And even though it's clunky, I still like my old video recorders with the tapes. I bought boxes of tapes. It's good to be able to still download all that stuff.

@t.castro4493

2 жыл бұрын

I also run obsolete stuff quite frequently, most often games. Windows is excellent for that. I still have a 32-bit OS here 😅 I couldn't even set up Mac System 7, too confusing. Meanwhile, I can usually sort out compatibility problems on Windows. As for audio software, I once wanted to run ancient versions of Ableton Live 🤭

I'd totally buy Tom Scott Remastered 2020.

@ethanmay4385

4 жыл бұрын

Someone needs to make this a thing

@Thumbsupurbum

4 жыл бұрын

It's rigged, the loot boxes always have red shirts in them.

@zeppie_

4 жыл бұрын

I have hundreds of hours in the original Tom Scott and love the game to death, but I can't deny that the controls are VERY outdated

@GuilhermeMaia100

4 жыл бұрын

@@zeppie_ I came to the comments only to say this!

@gmg9010

4 жыл бұрын

Casimir Paul totally

Yea, it really sucks when it’s your name. The account user name couldn’t be Con either. Until I started using it as Kon.

@kingvent5005

4 жыл бұрын

Oh so I guess you don't have rainbow in a full 😂😂😡😂😂😡😡😂😡😡😡😡😠😂😉

@CreepahJacket

4 жыл бұрын

@@kingvent5005 what?

@Jagerbomber

4 жыл бұрын

Literally dozens.

@user-cw5fk7zr3x

4 жыл бұрын

Kingvent tf this guy on

@grey_real

4 жыл бұрын

@@kingvent5005 bruh?

This was honestly an amazing way to talk about a story, the script or talking points or whatever it is was just so good in my opinion. I love how you wrapped everything up and got everything related to each other at the end, just amazing 🤩

Actually the 29/2/1900 bug comes from QDOS which is what IBMDOS/MSDOS was based on. The internal calendar QDOS used treated every fourth year as a leap year and Lotus which ran on MSDOS calculated dates using the MSDOS calendar.

"People don't like change" I swear if Tom ever wears a blue shirt, I'm not watching ever again

@petermarsella6537

3 жыл бұрын

Tom should absolutely wear a blue shirt on April fools Day and just say nothing about it

@nathanjay4788

3 жыл бұрын

@@petermarsella6537 It would become the new most disliked video on KZread.

@codygrannemann9506

3 жыл бұрын

Whats brackin

@deadonentry

3 жыл бұрын

You would love asmongold then

@Julio974

3 жыл бұрын

*Sorts Tom’s videos by oldest*

Microsoft: “Wait! Don’t change that code! What if someone needs to open their 30 year old word excel sheets!” Meanwhile at Apple: “Lmao who even uses opengl anymore?”

@ZtereoHYPE

4 жыл бұрын

DoriNori" lmao who uses 32 bit apps"

@engineergaming5478

4 жыл бұрын

@Богдан Кондратов apple isn't one of them.

@sacwingedbatsatadbitsad4346

4 жыл бұрын

@@GuardiaNES420 Most games CAN run on OpenGL. Most of them can run DX or Vulkan maybe. Like all Unity games, for example, can be switched from using OpenGL to render to using dx11 by launching them with the "-force-d3d11" argument.

@Invizive

4 жыл бұрын

I don't understand, why not make such compatibility optional so you could choose to install a library to open a specific old file instead of creating a dependency hell that would certainly hit them in the future? We use DOSBox for older files after all.

@makak_zeleny

4 жыл бұрын

@@sacwingedbatsatadbitsad4346 except that not every game is made in unity...

I discovered this 20 years ago when I was trying to create a folder called "Con" for my converted mp3 files. Didin't know why it didn't work until now! Thanks :)

@t.castro4493

2 жыл бұрын

I recommend the game Hypnospace Outlaw if you're feeling nostalgic about that time :)

Thoroughly enjoyed this. I have noticed many legacy control panels in Windows 10, but I didn’t know some went all the way back to 3.1!

You've basically made everyone try name a file CON, good job

@rossharper1983

4 жыл бұрын

Easily done.

@StrokeMahEgo

4 жыл бұрын

The biggest con.

@eksortso

4 жыл бұрын

@@rossharper1983 You aren't running Windows, right?

@TheDemocrab

4 жыл бұрын

And everyone else feel like they're superior because they either use OS X or Linux.

@user-ju8qg9dx9x

4 жыл бұрын

I think it's the french autocensor

The block is obviously there to stop con artists from saving their stuff on computers. ;-)

@josephgaviota

3 жыл бұрын

Now we know why Hunter used a Mac.

@emilvinod

2 жыл бұрын

🤯

@wreckage8

2 жыл бұрын

…

@baronvonbeandip

2 жыл бұрын

"Bill Gates unleashes new update for Windows. Con artists hate him."

@pipsounds

2 жыл бұрын

lmao this cracked me up, ty

LPT stands for Line Printer, they were rotating cylinders with almost the complete character set and the number characters even twice around the circumference in 132 places along the the cylinder with 132 hammers that smacked all the characters required one complete line at a time, if only numbers needed to be printed it would be two lines per revolution, I cant́ remember how fast the cylinder rotated but it crazy spewed out up to four copies using three carbon paper layers in continuous form. The office girls were then asked to strip ... meaning to seperate the copies and carbon paper on a rewinder one layer at a time, good old days.

I ran into this a few years ago. We had a project and the abbreviation for a part was Con. Our code broke when it tried to create a directory called CON. I remembered DOS reserved words, looked it up... and was furious.

"New stuff should also support the old stuff" -Apple has left the chat

@JasperJanssen

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed, Apple’s systems are saddled with less technical debt. That’s what makes them better than windows.

@NoTimeForNoodles

4 жыл бұрын

Ah, so that’s why they support their iOS devices for 6 years whereas most Android phones only get 2 years of feature updates. Oh wait...

@yosoyysoyyo

4 жыл бұрын

JakeExpertGames I think they might be talking about the catalina updates, or when the iphone dropped all 32-bit apps a few years ago

@bananya6020

4 жыл бұрын

@@yosoyysoyyo macos dropped 32bit too. dumb asf esp. when 99% of programs are still 32bjt

@QualityDoggo

4 жыл бұрын

Eh otherwise they're gonna be stuck with it forever. they did it with PowerPC and survived so they know they can do it again... also it's not hard to recompile and update especially if it's on the App Store... which is also what they want :/ There are pros and cons to either approach but it could've been way worse ...

"no ones expecting your Iphone to read punchcards" Well, there's an app idea for someone.

@CaffeinatedTech

4 жыл бұрын

Apple probably already has a patent for it...

@Kharmitas

4 жыл бұрын

What'd be more impressive is an app that lets your phone print punchcards

@Jake12220

4 жыл бұрын

Well a punch card isn't that different to a very low tech QR code, so would definitely be possible.

@minigolfkid

4 жыл бұрын

dammit. you beat me to the -wait for it- punch! 😂

@poiiihy

4 жыл бұрын

an app that decodes a punchcard with the camera is definitely doable

Spot on and thank you for pointing this out for people. This is why I love Windows so much. The backwards compatibility is remarkable. My mother still manages her finances in a 2003 XP version of Microsoft Money that still runs on her latest build Windows 10 PC in 2021. I'd like to see a Mac user run an app from even the previous OS version, or worse yet, from a different architecture (M1 vs Intel vs PPC, SMH).

@ElNeroDiablo

2 жыл бұрын

Rosetta let PPC OSX software run on Intel Macs, and Rosetta 2 lets Intel OSX software run on M1 Macs. At a performance cost for the translation processing, but it does work.

@Cobalt985

2 жыл бұрын

Speaking of PPC, it's hella fun that I can run most modern Linux programs on an old PPC Mac (given you have a way to install PPC Linux). I used Emacs on my iMac G3 to write a few school assignments.

@mrkitty777

2 жыл бұрын

My Abacus from 6000 years ago still calculating, now that's backwards compatibility 😎

@calcutt4

2 жыл бұрын

I use software that was written in about 1996 on my modern Windows 7 computer

@jl789nz

Жыл бұрын

I'm not saying that Apple is as good at backwards compatibility as windows, but you seem to not know that Apple have built in emulation (called rosetta) for X86 applications so they can run on their new ARM processors, and it does it incredibly well.

Yip, I remember we had an old system that was set up to use two dot matrix printers, one to spit out invoices and another for shipping labels on pre-printed, continuous paper. The issue was you had to remember to flip the switch on the rotary printer switch and if you didn't, well chaos would ensue. It had been that way for years. I came along and a little code change here along with the addition of a second printer port in the computer, and the printer switch and its mass of cables was history.

@trianglemoebius

Жыл бұрын

"And if you didn't, chaos would ensue" could be the title of any programmer's biography.

lots of French people probably noticed you can't name a folder "con", because it's an insult in French some people tried to use that as folder names. Me at least.

@kyoyeou5899

3 жыл бұрын

I was searching for the french person that said this before me xD

@James-un8io

3 жыл бұрын

@@kyoyeou5899 many French people pointed that out not only him

@jolotschka

3 жыл бұрын

Vachement mes cons 😂👍

@metroplexprime9901

3 жыл бұрын

Please enlighten me as to what "con" means in english. Is it an untranslatable but generally insulting word, or is it directly comparable to something?

@kyoyeou5899

3 жыл бұрын

@@metroplexprime9901 it's "imbecile" but in way harder

"So why should I use Linux?" "You can name your file 'con'."

@mrbane2000

4 жыл бұрын

You can name it in windows too

@hermannpaschulke1583

4 жыл бұрын

Actually all UNIX-like systems like Linux use device files for almost everything. But they are in the /dev directory

@raphaelwaggoner3200

4 жыл бұрын

"You also don't have to rely on a corporation for a critical service but meh, who really cares about that these days."

@mattp6244

4 жыл бұрын

UNIX > micros*ft

@nibblrrr7124

4 жыл бұрын

Also, UNIX filenames are case-sensitive and can contain almost any symbol (including :"\|?*). Also, in text files you don't have to use a newline AND a carriage return character for a line break, as if your monitor was a _particularly stupid_ typewriter. Also, it's a real™ operating system. POSIX or GTFO! :^)

As someone with the initials LPT, i'm surprised this hasn't broken some school database or something yet.

@VestinVestin

7 ай бұрын

Listen, printer, you're not fooling anyone.

@Kanbei11

6 ай бұрын

At least you're not called Bobby Tables

I like how Tom shows all the great examples of Microsoft backwards compatibility as I sit at my desk looking at a Zune, which has nearly no compatibility with newer versions of windows.

In French « con » means “moron”, so we just thought that Windows was a bit susceptible.

@_akuma06

4 жыл бұрын

I've been scrolling through all the comments for this x)

@Pordrack

4 жыл бұрын

I believed it, and thought it was dumb because way more offensive french swears were allowed.

@mrjohnbrush

4 жыл бұрын

Damn! I just wrote a comment saying the same thing 🤣👍

@Sacre97

4 жыл бұрын

Using the proper quotation marks for each language huh? Neat 👌🏼

@Hgulix62

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrjohnbrush - Me too fck

"Someone, somewhere, MIGHT need to open a 30+yr old windows file." Like the US Government/Military. We still run essential programs on MS-DOS and Windows 95. 😂

@glennmulvey7200

4 жыл бұрын

Caleb Shonk wrong they are actually using XP

@pumkinwhy

4 жыл бұрын

@Noah hard to update critical systems, if it ain't broke - don't fix it. there are other methods for security, but someday they will have to update, but it requires a seamless transition which is hard/impossible in some infrastructures

@stonedsavage7814

4 жыл бұрын

@Noah yes and no. It's secure because it's not connected to the internet but it's mainly because so much military tech was made to run on that operating system so everything will work with it.

@cranemechanic2479

4 жыл бұрын

@Noah no because they would rather spend the money on a tank or something powerful like that because to update everything would cost probably +10 million

@6yjjk

4 жыл бұрын

"You have the conn." *Windows for Warships has stopped working and needs to be restarted.*

I love how I’ve never asked this question my entire life but still watched it.

@UltraZelda64

Ай бұрын

You got conned.

Yes, I've had a really tough time copying old prerelease screenshots of the game "Command & Conquer" off an old CD because the creators of the disc had shortened them to "COM" plus a number, heh.

Fun fact: "Con" is the french word for "dumbass" I always thought it was for censoring those names that we couldn't name a file "con".

@skyrotechnics3245

3 жыл бұрын

User who don't know french needing to name the photo of a convention Windows: *Censored*

@prebenjaeger

3 жыл бұрын

More like a "Sad fact". How did you reach that idiotic conclusion?

@BradyPostma

3 жыл бұрын

The word "con" can be used as an insult in English, too. It means one who lies or scams you. As in, "Some call President Trump a con because his statements so rarely match what fact-checkers say."

@MichaelR1275

3 жыл бұрын

@@prebenjaeger .

@SireForseti

3 жыл бұрын

@@prebenjaeger I can't believe someone made a mistake ! Clearly we should just execute them... I'm shaking, quaking even... such actions against humanity shouldn't got unpunished !

Who else immediately tried, just to be sure.

@danielfekete4612

3 жыл бұрын

Guilty as charged.

@vermortinutile

3 жыл бұрын

me

@David-ei9fz

3 жыл бұрын

Me

@kakashi7867.

3 жыл бұрын

Me

@philidor9657

3 жыл бұрын

I did it before I even opened the video, just to be sure its worth my time. Wasn't disappointed

Tom Scott, master of backwards compatibility. Play his videos in random order, always familiar, always comforting.

U actually make my full concept clear and ur expression makes it more intresting

"if you're using a windows computer, try this" ok. dammit. hes right.

@plogoo1

4 жыл бұрын

Hes wrong. You actually CAN name a directory "CON". From command line type "mkdir \\?\C:\CON" . This will create at folder 📂 at the root of the C:\ drive called CON.

@DavidWonn

4 жыл бұрын

@Chris Stoble I posted something similar, except for files rather than directories.

@mozzjones6943

4 жыл бұрын

​@@plogoo1 That method creates an unusable root folder in the system. Doesn't count dude!

@plogoo1

4 жыл бұрын

@@mozzjones6943 totally count. I didn't say it was smart thing to do. Only that he's incorrect that it can't be done!

Backwards compatibilty: Exists Apple: We’re just going to ignore that.

@TheLingo56

3 жыл бұрын

It is worth noting that a lack of backwards compatibility is why their products tend to run smoother and more organized than the alternatives. It's a trade-off to support and rely on very old software.

@TheSdzisuaf

3 жыл бұрын

@Windows Xienna OMG? What?! Now that will make me reconsider bout upgrading my G4

@justinhamilton8647

3 жыл бұрын

Tell that to the old ass iPods still supported even now lmao

@LongTailCat3

3 жыл бұрын

i miss the cinamon taost crunch app

@YISTECH

3 жыл бұрын

what?

I don’t see any signs of you using a teleprompter of any kind, that’s an incredible level of presentation skills, hats off to you sir!

I love your story telling, dude!

“Headphone jacks get removed” I’m still upset about this, even years after it’s become “normal”

@renagonpoi5747

3 жыл бұрын

The headphone jack is still a make or break for me... I vehemently avoid any phone/laptop that doesn't have it.

@Hossein7r

3 жыл бұрын

Same here

@renagonpoi5747

3 жыл бұрын

@@sonyxperiasmk the latest Samsung ones... Some of the Chinese brands as well... A lot of android manufacturers have adopted the no headphone design philosophy.

@DDbenkoDD

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, boo boo! Let me play a sad song for you on the world's smallest violin.

@Hossein7r

3 жыл бұрын

@@DDbenkoDD did u just insult your ownself?

The pros and ___'s of windows

@nicolaifeldthaus4649

4 жыл бұрын

Alexey Grosman hehe

@maxican5286

4 жыл бұрын

Goose

@everydaydose7779

4 жыл бұрын

porn

@lonestarr1490

4 жыл бұрын

@Богдан Кондратов Yes. It runs all the games.

@froniccruxis1049

4 жыл бұрын

@@lonestarr1490 and practically all software. If it hasn't been ported it is either unimportant or extremely niche.

You have just made me go back to a past that I have never actually experienced, but which I have always found fascinating. And you have also made me reflect on something very important that I took for granted or unnecessary. Thanks Tom, glad to have discovered you! Italian: Mi hai appena fatto tornare in un passato che non ho mai vissuto in realtà, ma che ho sempre trovato affascinante. E mi hai anche fatto riflettere su qualcosa di molto importante che davo per scontato o inutile. Grazie Tom, felice di averti scoperto!

Thanks Tom; that was fascinating & enlightening.

That's a darker red t-shirt. I hope you aren't planning on shifting to other color

@fannyslam

4 жыл бұрын

It's probably to do with him using a screen screen and having to edit the video to look better compared to the background

@fghsgh

4 жыл бұрын

@@fannyslam Ah yes. The famous screen screen.

@danielkuehling2220

4 жыл бұрын

That's the version of Tom Scott that's remastered for 2020.

@kelvin31272

4 жыл бұрын

I love my screen screen, always there when I need it

@Nugcon

4 жыл бұрын

He's becoming Edgy

Ok.. I used the node.js fs-api and created a file "con.txt" now Windows does not let me delete it anymore...

@Zatacke

4 жыл бұрын

Create the file: fs.writeFileSync('con.txt', 'hello con!', { encoding: 'utf8' }); ------ But you can delete it like this: fs.unlinkSync('con.txt');

@f1refly1337

4 жыл бұрын

Your fault for using nodejs, I pity you

@Hoofer

4 жыл бұрын

@@f1refly1337 people enjoy different things

@lolagepwned

4 жыл бұрын

@@f1refly1337 F's in the chat for the JavaScript boys

@jd_27

4 жыл бұрын

Don’t toy with the gods

I tried it right away. 25 years in IT. Didn't know this. Kudo's to you!.

3:36 didn't have the Con-cept

Everyone right now: *Trying to name a file CON* Everyone: *Gets Surprised*

@filiphedman4392

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly what happened to me

@Trippik

4 жыл бұрын

me: tries on chrome os

@v1perys

4 жыл бұрын

@@Trippik try mkdir \\.\C:\con\ it'll work

@kckdude913

4 жыл бұрын

@@v1perys that's a folder, though, not a file.

@meetaverma8372

4 жыл бұрын

I don't know why, but I did

I find the Tom Scott 2020 Remaster edition to have duller reds.

@greenhowie

4 жыл бұрын

I found the handling to be a little slippery

@Ergogre

4 жыл бұрын

So you're saying the new game is un-fair?

@SirLightfire

4 жыл бұрын

"You might even realize that my trademark red shirt is, in fact, light pink" .... "One take!"

@saleplains

4 жыл бұрын

its to give it a grittier aesthetic

@lowercase.

4 жыл бұрын

i see the appeal of the remaster but that doesnt change that i cant play it for more than about 10 minutes :(

It's super cool that backwards compatibility is this important and that Windows has taken notice of it!

the way everything in this video tied back together at the end absolutely broke my brain

4:51 is the kind of slick editing you don't expect people to notice when you're actually creating it.

@saleplains

4 жыл бұрын

its so smooth

@klaus2045

4 жыл бұрын

You sir have a speacial eyes, i cant believe u noticed that, congrats!

@vaclavholinka6301

4 жыл бұрын

What did you see ? I didn't notice anything, now I'm curious...

@DoktorBeta

4 жыл бұрын

​@@vaclavholinka6301 An edited-on disc appears in his hand and slides into the Playstation.

@notquitenil

4 жыл бұрын

I *swore* that was intentional. The fact that it came together that smoothly is just marvelous.

The idea that fixing a date bug from nearly four decades ago could wreck a major company's operations (even temporarily) definitely falls into the existentially terrifying side of the tech industry

@dstblj5222

2 жыл бұрын

its why internet explorer still exists someone a lot of companies actually have stuffed based on it

@adrienneclarke3953

2 жыл бұрын

You didn't live through 2000 and the effort put into making sure the world didn't fall over when we went from 1999 99 to 2000 00.

@graphite7898

2 жыл бұрын

@@adrienneclarke3953 All the supposed chaos when 2000 hit was greatly exaggerated

@keltzar1

2 жыл бұрын

@@graphite7898 I think the point they're making is that things didn't go crazy because people put in a lot of work. It wasn't going to be like, computers taking over the world, but a lot of software used for fundamental things like bank transactions was going to break if they didn't update the software to interpret dates better.

@adrienneclarke3953

2 жыл бұрын

@@graphite7898 I worked in banking and we had so many old system, we started planning 2 years out. We couldn't afford to have transactions fall over.

One of the reasons I love Gnu/Linux. Userland never breaks. If your app uses the forward facing APIs, it will probably* never break. * not for a long time, if not never

This feature caused me no end of headaches. I was writing files for part entities using a folder structure based on attributes, which was failing for the Condenser system (abbreviation: CON).

I accidentally found out that you can't name a folder "prn". Don't ask how.

@josephmarx4695

4 жыл бұрын

Why?

@greg7402

4 жыл бұрын

@@josephmarx4695 why do you think big guy

@Guztav1337

4 жыл бұрын

I think that is the most common one

@board7374

4 жыл бұрын

*no you didnt*

@satyakisil9711

4 жыл бұрын

prn is a spreadsheet file of the pre-internet days.

Microsoft: “We support old systems.” Adobe: “What does that mean?”

@vista9434

4 жыл бұрын

Apple: "Who needs backwards compatibility?" *Rips out 32 Bit program support in macOS Catalina*

@fishtailsauce

4 жыл бұрын

Hoi Kay Li I’m still so upset they did that. the only game I can play in my steam library is Garrys Mod and even that is wonky because I have to change the resolutions smh

@jacquesca

4 жыл бұрын

Windows: “All our operating systems are built on top of the graveyards of the old versions so there’s so many bugs and exploits”

@LoudMouth_

4 жыл бұрын

@@jacquesca Microsoft can fix bugs when they appear. I don't see Apple re-adding 32bit support.

@StrangerHappened

4 жыл бұрын

@@vista9434 *Funny enough, it is opposite with Apple and older mobile hardware.* They support iPhones, iPads and iPod touches from four-five (!) years ago, while everybody else typically for a year or two at best.

4:51 this little animation edit using Tom's gesture is brilliant

Such a fascinating video, thank you!!

I can't name my folder PRN? Well, gonna have to go with "Homework" then...

@nachiket7565

3 жыл бұрын

Really underrated comment.

@aurakille2148

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheValkyrie9001 Cap

@erikhendrych190

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheValkyrie9001 Don't act like you have never watched PRN in your life.

@Harlow.

3 жыл бұрын

@@erikhendrych190 what even is prn

@MaeaCh

3 жыл бұрын

@@Harlow. a religion

You also can't name it "aux", which we found out the hard way, when I named a folder "aux", submitted it to our git repository and made all the windows people unable to update their local copies. Oops

@FunBoysGaming

3 жыл бұрын

Not your fault.

@mr.mischiefiknowyourpasswo8224

3 жыл бұрын

:'D haha good job.

@anguilliasKR

3 жыл бұрын

Haha this is a great prank

@ChristopherHailey

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, that's so great...it sucks when you are using a full blown OS but you have to do stupid things so your stuff compatible with the bug pile that is Windows.

@mr.mischiefiknowyourpasswo8224

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChristopherHailey :'D haha I prefer Linux aswell, but you didn't have to suck off Linus Torvall like that. If you like the taste, I don't descriminate.

Great explanation! Thank you very much Tom! 😀👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Right before this, there was an ad that said, "I see you are going to watch a Tom Scott video." I am now questioning if my family sold my data, or if people have security cameras around my house, etc.

I'm almost impressed that Tom didn't use the word "legacy" even once in this video. Also, as always, great work.

@gnuthad

4 жыл бұрын

That's because Tom's not old enough. :-)

@plogoo1

4 жыл бұрын

Hes wrong. You actually CAN name a directory "CON". From command line type "mkdir \\?\C:\CON" . This will create at folder 📂 at the root of the C:\ drive called CON.

@JulianSammy

4 жыл бұрын

Chris Stoble That sounds like a "bug" in the ported version or mkdir. Nice find. What happens if you try to use the folder? Rename/move/copy might break?

Glad to know when I tried to save all my comic con photos under "CON" and my laptop yelled at me that is wasn't a virus.

I wish I had a teacher as interesting as you in high school, I learned all this with more interest than anything I did in high school

Just found your channel, February of 2022. Don't know how I missed it all these years. KZread is too big! 😊

Imagine trying to save a PNG of a convention called "con."

@sirensandrailroadsofoklaho9285

3 жыл бұрын

conventioncon2021

@contentlacking5950

3 жыл бұрын

Concon it is.

@theuniversal6282

3 жыл бұрын

Kon

@checcmac8693

3 жыл бұрын

Conjunctions

@chrismanuel9768

3 жыл бұрын

Dashcon

Tom, if you could explain everything about computers to my mom, that would be great.

@oli5b7

4 жыл бұрын

Justin did you just quote that line of office space on purpose?

Good job. I really enjoyed this presentation.

5:05 this is how the Wii U works! It has a wii emulator in it. The Wii (I believe?) also has a gamecube emulator, and can run N64 games just fine. This, sadly, did not extend to the switch.

@fg7nrt

11 ай бұрын

Yay finally another Wii u user!

I didn't realise that the term "directory" was considered old-fashioned. I mean I know they're also called folders, but I use the two terms interchangeably. I guess that makes me... old.

@pinkshortsmanwithban

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think it makes you old, but certainly it was the earlier name for it. I've never heard someone refer to a directory as a "folder" when talking about Linux at least. Seems to be more of a mainstream user thing to call it a "folder" (ie. Windows folders). I'm 23 and switch between directory and folder depending on the context

@Huntracony

4 жыл бұрын

Then 21 is old as well.

@coscorrodrift

4 жыл бұрын

i mean if you code just a little bit directory is a regular word. i know barely nothing about programming aside from some python and "pip install _" and directory is still a word used everywhere

@Luiji99

4 жыл бұрын

It's more to do with what sort of software you interact with. UNIX, BSD, and Linux (GNU or Busybox) users are a lot more likely to call them directories if they use the command-line because all the commands for handling them refer to them that way. However, someone who's focused on graphical user interfaces will likely still call them file folders since that's how they refer to them. Directory isn't old-fashioned, it's just that someone's choice of term shows what field they're in. Now, for a truly old-fashioned term, there's a catalog.

@XDarkGreyX

4 жыл бұрын

For me it depends on the GUI, so visual elements make me use either folder or directory, depending on what I see or the image in my head. Tricky to explain and weird, but that's more or less how it works for me. (I'm 22)

"World's Best Cornelius." The humor in your attention to detail is amazing.

@alexsmith-rs6zq

4 жыл бұрын

Timmy P Pornelius Hubert

@Korne127

4 жыл бұрын

Sadly not Kornelius :(

Nicely played Tom, very nice!!!!

Nicely done about control concerns

I actually ran into this-"CON" is the abbreviation for a school club I was a part of

@bananya6020

4 жыл бұрын

club of nerds? :P

@Mohamed_El-derderi

4 жыл бұрын

club of nincompoops? ....

@eddiequeboard2672

4 жыл бұрын

Club of nonce? :o

@IceHax

4 жыл бұрын

Club of necrophilia

@panchikofan123

4 жыл бұрын

club of nuttingonhotgrandmasonyourarea

You're telling me Cornelius and Conrad made it in the obscure name list before me? Outrage I tell you, Outrage!

@plebisMaximus

4 жыл бұрын

Don't worry, Con. We still appreciate you, brother!

@ktdoty9921

4 жыл бұрын

I personally have known more than 6 or 7 connors in my life

@will3346

4 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget Bort.

@NoNameAtAll2

4 жыл бұрын

beware of walking robots

@totallynotai7131

4 жыл бұрын

How is Cornelius an obscure name, has everyone forgot Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus

To figure out whether or not you should try this, let's start by listing the pros and Faults.

I can't turn my eyes away from the traveling line on the screen behind

"You can't name a file con" Spanish speakers: "Con qué?"

@calebf3655

4 жыл бұрын

Con ventanas

@alvaros.

4 жыл бұрын

@@calebf3655 Con el Micro Suave Ventanas, de Guillermo Portones 😂

@molotera8789

4 жыл бұрын

Alvaro S. *Memo Portones

@MuyenKamran1nehal

4 жыл бұрын

@@calebf3655 😂

@EduardoHerrera-fr6bd

4 жыл бұрын

JAJAJAKAJKAJSKAJSKAJDKISDJSjj

Back in the 90s a friend in school wrote a program to replace "AUX" by "BUX" in memory, so we could hide games in an AUX folder which the admin was never able to enter or remove.

@joemogley

Жыл бұрын

That's actually a really cool way to exploit this

@yassen3mk

Жыл бұрын

‫ ‫ ‫ ‫

@spamtong.spamton8416

10 ай бұрын

Based.

@oz_jones

8 ай бұрын

Was he the hacker 4chan?

@Anti_Septikum

7 ай бұрын

Could you give us the program?

5:28 i like that you display the calendar of February 1900 correctly. Nice detail!

A couple years ago I worked in IT for the city and a certain department required internet explorer to be installed on the new windows 10 computers because there was some software they had to use that would only work on IE

“Unfortunately it’s April 2020” me: starts crying because it’s past April 2021 and it’s just even worse

@ky314

3 жыл бұрын

what is even worse?

@Bee-kv5tx

3 жыл бұрын

@@ky314 **cough cough** Did you get your answer?

@VladiMatt

3 жыл бұрын

@Hotline: Finn Not everyone in the world is vaccinated. There are countries well behind the US for various reasons. Some countries are still in terrible spots.

@CrimsonKnight77

3 жыл бұрын

@@VladiMatt that and it’s been over a year of COVID existing at this point; it wears you down

@ezekiel440

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bee-kv5tx Nope

My favorite story is that Microsoft specifically reintroduced a DOS bug in Windows 95 after having fixed it, just so that SimCity that relied on the bug would continue to work.

@realcartoongirl

4 жыл бұрын

what bug

@Belioyt

4 жыл бұрын

Eben, kindly link to the story or cite your sources please

@Archiesaccount

4 жыл бұрын

not trying to be rude but that was a simple google search

@Archiesaccount

4 жыл бұрын

I googled, "simcity windows bug"

@samuelthecamel

4 жыл бұрын

@@Belioyt This isn't a research paper. It would be kinda weird to cite sources on a KZread comment, and if you want to find a story you can search it for yourself.

for anyone wondering, it's the same on Windows 11 Home 21H2

Its true... Tom Scott's channel is becoming number 1 for all the right reasons.

And those old obsolete systems are usually the ones propping up healthcare, banking, finance, industry, critical data and other vital resources. Like modern fighter jets using 20 year old hardware because that is what was specified.

@astrowanabe

4 жыл бұрын

Or the USA's ICBM launch facilities using floppy disks - the old, large, ACTUALLY FLOPPY type - until very recently because the system "just worked".

@Menaceblue3

4 жыл бұрын

Isn't that the reason why the USA military is buying F-35's (relatively expensive) instead of F-22's (relatively cheap) because of old software development when the raptor was being designed?

@CalvinsWorldNews

4 жыл бұрын

Sometimes has advantages mind. The UK banking system used IBM's OS2 long after people had even heard of it which in some ways made it *more* secure. This was around the time that US ATMs where on Windows XP. Which would you rather hack into?

@FreeManFreeThought

4 жыл бұрын

@@CalvinsWorldNews most atm's still are on xp XD

@novelnouvel

4 жыл бұрын

@@FreeManFreeThought and dont forget. the BSOD on ATMs

next up: why you can’t add FaZe in front of your babies name

@crossdagostino5778

4 жыл бұрын

Or add the word Clan to it

@onelooongboi5838

4 жыл бұрын

That reminds me how I still see kids putting faze in their clan tags or in front of their names in games.

@prussiancat5357

4 жыл бұрын

That reminds me how I still see kids putting faze in their clan tags or in front of their names in games.

@Netrole

4 жыл бұрын

That reminds me how I still see kids putting faze in their clan tags or in front of their names in games.

@Juppie902

4 жыл бұрын

You can add xXx_ though and 69x420

Wow, I’ve never run into that before… It’s always funny to find little isms and quirks in an OS that are remnants of a long forgotten forefather.

Many times I had to use old versions of MS-DOS, pre editor, pre edlin even, but they all had copy con.

In France it is a computer joke because "con" means "jerk"

@TMWT

4 жыл бұрын

More like an idiot or a prick

@Gabzilla19

4 жыл бұрын

@@TMWT all those words mean the same thing you frogs

@Jenny_Digital

4 жыл бұрын

In Britain a con is either a scam or a person of bad reputation for honesty. Eg a con artist. I suppose that might even be true in many other English speaking nations. I hope that anyone who _is_ named Con doesn’t take offence though.

@francophone.

4 жыл бұрын

The original meaning of "con" in French is c**t (in the literal meaning of the word)

@tanithrosenbaum

4 жыл бұрын

So french windows doesn't let you jerk it around? XD

7:04 "If you change nothing, people will get bored, and move on to something else" Sports video game players: Allow us to introduce ourselves

@zriraum

2 жыл бұрын

Fifa and cod lmao

@ARandomInternetUser08

2 жыл бұрын

@@zriraum no, Fifa and Madden. At least cod changes things, and that's a war game.

@thesupersonicstig

2 жыл бұрын

@@ARandomInternetUser08 CoD keeps changing, but for the worse.

@billyweed835

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, sports games do kinda sorta change things. Graphics get slightly better, player stats are updated, and that is it.

@RGC_animation

2 жыл бұрын

Fifa:

One of my earliest memories in computing is, "copy con autoexec.bat"...

You have no idea how quickly I tried to do this after reading the title. Checks out.