Why would Palestinians want a return to 1948?
The chant "We don't want no two state, we want '48" rejects the two-state solution and harks back to a time before the state of Israel existed.But why?
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And the Romans renamed it specifically to insult the Jews.
@GunningdownYoutubeAdmins
2 ай бұрын
Facts
@dhwjnehene
2 ай бұрын
Who said
@pessoaaleatoria2930
2 ай бұрын
@@dhwjnehenethe romans
@Adam_AK17
2 ай бұрын
W Adolf and Romans
@icenturion831
2 ай бұрын
Based Romans
This is my problem with these protest. They are involving themselves in a complex situation they know nothing about. They are allowing themselves to be manipulated and used.
@divergentthg7925
24 күн бұрын
But that pretty much can go for most humans on planet Earth😂
@thatexcalifornian6124
23 күн бұрын
Yep that’s my issue with it too. Why are they not focusing on the kitchen table issues in their own backyard? Cost of living? Groceries? Healthcare? Did they just forget?
@NR87813
23 күн бұрын
@@divergentthg7925But are most people on the planet marching around on the other side of the fucking world protesting and shutting down college campuses? For something that has absolutely nothing to do with them ? No. Absolutely not
@alechinshaw5990
23 күн бұрын
@@thatexcalifornian6124You can focus on both.
@alechinshaw5990
23 күн бұрын
Dude, how is ethnic cleansing a complex issue? The issue is not complicated to understand. It’s the SOLUTION that’s complicated.
Nonetheless genocide is never okay and that’s what the majority of people are protesting.
@todayunpacked
15 күн бұрын
Agreed. Though, I don’t think what is happening is a genocide.
@Dungeoneer710
14 күн бұрын
@@todayunpackedat what point does the mass slaughter of civilians become genocide?
@scooseedwards8587
3 күн бұрын
Notice how ofc the account didnt answer, because they dont actually care to dicuss anything. I appreciate all the work youve done in the comments @dungoneer710 - free palestine!
@andreahumada5103
Күн бұрын
@Dungeoneer710 You talking since October 7th because October 7th to now is really low for a "geoncide". The bombing of Hiroshima and nagasaki had more people dying but no one called it a genocide.
@Dungeoneer710
Күн бұрын
@andreahumada5103 the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki would at the very least be considered a massive war crime in the modern era. This is the problem. Israel and Israel supporters think this is still the 1940s.
Even pro Palestinians never say that there was an official state of Palestine, but the land was known as Palestine since at least the 1800s. By helping overthrow the Ottoman Empire, the Palestinian Arabs were promised independence, but were placed under a British mandate until 1948. Regardless of whether or not there was ever an official state of Palestine, Palestinians have the right to return to their homeland and rule themselves autonomously.
@creativesparksnv2941
6 сағат бұрын
Sure. They have the right to space, Israel has the right to space. Palestinians have the right to negotiate their space and every negotiation offers them more than it offers Israel. Every negotiation results in either a direct military attack on Israel or a terror based intifada. Palestinians deserved space, but they’ve repeatedly lost space trying to annihilate Israel entirely, because that’s the only solution they want. If you lose a war you start, you are not a victim of anything but your own hatred. The repeated calls for peace and space for Palestine never take into account that they don’t want peace. They want to repeat October 7th until Israel is gone.
@JacobNeff-oq5km
5 сағат бұрын
The 1800s? Try 12th century BCE. Archaic versions of the name Palestine, e.g. Peleset and Palashtu, date back to the bronze age collapse.
“WE WANT ‘48!” Oooooh. You want to be ruled by the British. Very intelligent of you!
@Hinestyler2
22 күн бұрын
Better Britain than Israel.
@dikastederook6380
20 күн бұрын
@@Hinestyler2 You clearly know nothing about that time period if you think Britain back then was better than Israel today.
@Hinestyler2
20 күн бұрын
@@dikastederook6380 It was better for the USA not to have Israel around
@buddyduddyful
20 күн бұрын
Palestinians have legitmate grievances. They were forced out of their homes and off of their land at the point of a gun. Their property was given to new colonizers, all the millions of Jews leaving Europe for Israel. The situation over there is an ethnic conflict. The Palestinians have been badly mistreated and are facing eradication through brutal ethnic cleansing.
@Hinestyler2
19 күн бұрын
@chershire1871 I don't know what that has to do with anything? I also don't have Tik Tok lol. Israel has been awful for the USA. If it stops existing the USA will be better off. Aside from that, I don't care what happens over there. I had my fill of the middle east and don't wanna go back.
So heartwarming that the protesters want Britain back 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@cheesyfromindonesia9969
2 ай бұрын
This deserves more likes, here's one more bro
@switch12345678
2 ай бұрын
At least the British didn't commit a genocide.
@andreicosti4571
2 ай бұрын
I think they would accept anyone but jews.
@andreicosti4571
2 ай бұрын
@@switch12345678well...
@bastiannass6844
2 ай бұрын
RULE BRITANIA BRITANIA RULE THE WAVES
Ottoman empire actually cared for both jews and arabs, no bs.
@themousegaming2191
3 күн бұрын
Yeah the 40 Jewish families
@caramelbloom8341
2 күн бұрын
Yup, but they hated armenians
@mashenka6189
Күн бұрын
They RUKES THE LAND for 400 years…learnt he history. It was very very bloody.
@user-cr5zy7hf3t
Күн бұрын
The word slave comes from Slavic because of the Ottomans. No more lies.
@oremfrien
Күн бұрын
What do you mean by "cared for"? The Ottoman Empire did not have legal equality for all peoples (resulting in numerous court cases between J*ws and Muslims that were prejudiced against the J*ws) nor did it have a government-sponsored healthcare system.
I cant believe how uneducated young generations are
@MsMarielina
11 күн бұрын
Their ignorance is gonna kill us all
@budhuedbuedbed
11 күн бұрын
You’re literally a boomer
@CosmoViolin
10 күн бұрын
Lmfao, I’m Gen Z and even I can tell you what’s going on from both sides without going into a protest. Honestly it baffles me sometimes
@epgamer1145
10 күн бұрын
They are young. They are not suppose to know everything.
@optikon4658
9 күн бұрын
@@epgamer1145But they actually know nothing. These big degrees they are in college for aren't teaching them anything useful ,like maybe some actual true historical fact.
Stalin used to call them “useful idiots”
@petergriffinson1907
28 күн бұрын
They’re called democrats in the u.s
@maxwentworth4391
27 күн бұрын
Stalin made antisemitism illegal.
@Oxlearhumbler
27 күн бұрын
Stalin was a jew, or at very best jew-loving communist
@Yo-ps2pf
26 күн бұрын
He never did, not sure where you get that from
@Tetrahcodom
26 күн бұрын
Hamas does too.
And when the Romans conquered the kingdom of Judea in 63 BCE, islam didn't even exist. 63 BCE is 633 years before the birth of prophet Muhammed. All the Muslims claiming "Palestine" is hilarious.
@lejs1974
Ай бұрын
Before the Jews existed, the philistinians lived there 😂. What's your argument 😂
@FeralCatDoge
Ай бұрын
By that logic the United States of America should be owned by the Scandinavian Vikings
@airplanedude3103
Ай бұрын
@@lejs1974 That spelling is diabolical my guy
@lejs1974
Ай бұрын
@@airplanedude3103 My guy, it was just a forgotten comma. Ain't that deep.
@fifth5106
Ай бұрын
@@airplanedude3103”Philistine” is another term to some use to refer to the region of the world called “Palestine,” originating from the group of people called the “Philistines” who settled in the region back in the 12th Century BCE. Their country/civilization was called Philistia, and the Greeks called the state Palestine, which was a diverse state with Philistines, Israelites, and other ethnic groups. There’s nothing wrong with his spelling, you just apparently don’t read much to have known that it’s a legitimate term used more often in the East.
There has never been a Palestinian state, ever! Palestine is a place, not a state! Fact!😮
@77wolf89
15 күн бұрын
Its right next to Narnia and other made up places, lol
@abd1x7
15 күн бұрын
İf you want some facts Not really Even though the ottoman empire did control the land (they taxed it ) But the people living on the land have land ownership documents and worked on the land Second the British promised those people owning/living on the land that they can have a state (called Palestine) Third the British also promised Zionists the land (and call it Israel) The difference is one people (that call themselves Palestinians)worked on the land and lived on it The Zionists where in Europe (İ will let you decide who has a clam here) Fourth when the British broke there promise with the Arabs (Muslims, christians, and Jewish) and allowed Jewish mass migration (note the Arabs living on the land didn't accept the occupation by the British and there was no democracy what so ever) Sixth when the Zionists took over Palestine they didn't create a fair government instead they decided to kick out all the Palestineans from there land And never allowed any Arab come back to his house the house he built and lived in for years And Rightfully those 700000 people kicked out in 1948 tried to fight back again and again (not because they are terrorists because they were kicked out of there houses and had no were to live ) Let's say California was invaded by Muslims Then after 76 years told the Californiaens there is nothing called California it was for the native Americans and America colonized it for 300 years And the Muslims kicking every American out of California and never letting them go back because the British promised the Muslims this land (America was colonized by britch for a while)
@Maxthe_Katz
14 күн бұрын
They lost land and houses because of the 1948 war where Israel was attacked by Arab countries. The arabs lost and lost land. Also Jews have given up their homes in gaza in 2005. What's your point?@@abd1x7
@Dungeoneer710
14 күн бұрын
Palestine has existed longer than Israel but keep telling yourself that
@joemacinnis1972
14 күн бұрын
@@Dungeoneer710 it's never been a state, fact
The state of Palestine never existed.
@henryclothetr6870
11 күн бұрын
Ok but the arab person was here and got expulced from their home
@holynokia6030
11 күн бұрын
@@henryclothetr6870 yeah, its sad to see that the British took the Arabs and moved them, then took the remaining European Jews and pulled them from their land
@kevinvong6912
11 күн бұрын
If one were to test their DNA one would find that their ancestry goes back into Israel thousands of years before the first archaeological evidence of Judaism (or Judaisms) in the region. Basic science.
@henryclothetr6870
11 күн бұрын
@@holynokia6030 never lets the brits decide
@connorcohen7258
8 күн бұрын
So you admit the two state solution was a lie. Anyways who cares they should have a state and they have just never been allowed to.
Pretty much Palestine never existed as an independent state.
@sergiocorrea63
26 күн бұрын
Neither ISRAEL.
@chairmanofthebored6860
26 күн бұрын
@@sergiocorrea63except it does. Same can't be said for Palestine. Might want to see what the founders of the PLO have to say about it. They openly acknowledge that the Palestinian people don't exist and only took the name because the Jews used it.
@planzed.2
26 күн бұрын
@@sergiocorrea63but Judea did & was named after the Jews. Prior to that Canaan
@Mike31073
26 күн бұрын
Genesis 32:24-30 Then Jacob (ISRAEL) was left alone; and a Man wrestled with him until the breaking of day. (25)Now when He saw that He did not prevail against him, He touched the socket of his hip; and the socket of Jacob’s hip was out of joint as He wrestled with him. (26) And He said, “Let Me go, for the day breaks.” But he said, “I will not let You go unless You bless me!” (27) So He said to him, “What is your name?” He said, “Jacob.” (28)And He said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel; for you have struggled with God and with men, and have prevailed.” (29) Then Jacob asked, saying, “Tell me Your name, I pray.” And He said, “Why is it that you ask about My name?” And He blessed him there. (30) So Jacob called the name of the place [j]Peniel: “For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.”
@Mike31073
26 күн бұрын
Genesis 33:17 "And Jacob journeyed to Succoth, and built him a house, and made booths for his cattle And Jacob came to Shalem, a city of Shechem, which is in the land of Canaan, when he came from Padan-aram; and pitched his tent before the city. And he bought a parcel of a field, where he had spread his tent, at the hand of the children of Hamor, Shechem's father for a hundred pieces of money. And he erected there an altar, and called it El-elohe-Israel." Genesis 33: 17-20
Its a wonderful world we live in when people chant for an end to genocide by promoting genocide.
@michelehernandez4217
Ай бұрын
Exactly.
@williamgullett5911
Ай бұрын
Protesting "illegal occupation" through their own illegal occupation.....
@tristenrichards1867
Ай бұрын
Excuse me but who do the Palestinians want to genocide seems to me like the Zionists are the sole proprietars
@LawrenceKennard
Ай бұрын
They are now illegally occupying buildings here in New Orleans. Yeah we get the lowest common denominator a lot😢
@Aircu
Ай бұрын
The meaning of genocide lost its meaning, genocide is when people intentionally try to kill innocent people which is exactly what hamas does... While israel Civilian To Hamas Terrorist raito is way better than any other war between two countries in the middle east. Go back to school buddy...
This just proves the Intelligence of these Pro Palestine Protestors
@Donavan37
10 күн бұрын
You mean lack of. Don't think they have any
@llawliet666
10 күн бұрын
@@Donavan37 tell me why you like ethnic cleansing
@themousegaming2191
3 күн бұрын
You're also falling for propaganda but just for the other side. For 1300 years the land of Palestine was Arab majority. Just because they didn’t have a state didn’t mean they were less independent than now. It’s just this was before the British had the idea that Muslims or Arabs couldn’t live in one state together after WW1 and divided them with nationalism.
@dennishg-oh1eq
3 күн бұрын
@@themousegaming2191 yeah i know history actually
Thank you. There is no such thing as Palestine. People need to pull their heads out of their asses and study actual, real history, and yes that includes the Old Testament.
@Dungeoneer710
14 күн бұрын
Imagine calling the old testament "real history" and expecting people to take you seriously
@captainfantastic7843
14 күн бұрын
@@Dungeoneer710 Imagine having your head stuck so far up your own ass that you couldn't even take the most important book in history seriously. 🤣😆😂
@captainfantastic7843
14 күн бұрын
@@Dungeoneer710 Imagine having your head stuck so firmly up your own ass that you couldn't even read the most important book in the history of human civilization.
@captainfantastic7843
14 күн бұрын
@@Dungeoneer710 Imagine being so ignorant that you refuse to recognize the vast amounts of Middle Eastern archaeology and extra-biblical, historical texts that attest to the veracity of the most important book in history. 🤣😆😂
@Dungeoneer710
14 күн бұрын
@captainfantastic7843 what are you talking about exactly because I can name many stories from the old testament that have no basis in reality. For one. There's zero evidence the Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt, no evidence of their supposed "exodus", no record of the Israelites supposedly genociding the canaanites. Almost the entirety of biblical history is just straight up fabrications or gross exaggerations
My dumbass thought they wanted 46 more states and not js 2 states 💀
@lizardjesus2501
2 ай бұрын
😂😂
@whyareyougae6839
2 ай бұрын
Same
@robertshaw3203
2 ай бұрын
Lol
@kawaiistarlightTwice
2 ай бұрын
United States of Palestine😂
@M113_A
2 ай бұрын
@@kawaiistarlightTwice idk bout that one my brother 💀
Chanting is a lot more exciting than reading books
@robsan9017
20 күн бұрын
This should be made into a t-shirt. 👍
@backofthedime9445
20 күн бұрын
Genius. 🍻🤘🏼
@SoberBhoy
20 күн бұрын
I’m Glad I enjoy books
@FJB6544
19 күн бұрын
This generation loves jumping on a bandwagon they saw on Tik Tok and thought was cool. It's too bad they haven't actually looked into the beliefs of the ppl they're siding with, tho.
@Aura_baby
19 күн бұрын
The state of Palestine in 48 was never a thing anyway. League made sure of that
Palestinians fought for the British in WWII and their payment was to keep their land as their own, but the British sold that land to the Jews too. So we want '48 could be interpreted as "we want what we was promised, our own State". This whole problem was set in motion by the British when they sold the same land to two different buyers.
@rotemp5838
11 күн бұрын
The Jews residing in the area also fought with the British. Look up the Jewish Brigade. And the British have promised the land to the Jews countless times. The thing is there were, for many years, both Jews and arabs living in the area. Further Jews came following the holocaust and the violent expulsion of Jews from Arab countries, and further Arabs came from Egypt and Syria seeking employment in the British mandated land. The Brits were promising the land to both groups. At the end, the Jews, who had spent all this time legally buying land and developing it, agreed to share the land in a two state solution. The Arabs, who only showed interest in the land once others started developing it (those were wastelands before), didn’t. Don’t show only half of the history.
@bambusmode8902
10 күн бұрын
They also offered it to Saudi Arabia and Turkey at the same time.
@Bacon_Youtuber23
10 күн бұрын
@@bambusmode8902bro what are on about they were fighting turkey
@joshuakausmann5504
8 күн бұрын
Palestinians were also N@zi sympathizers. And was funded and allied by N@zi Germany during the Great Revolt of 1936. I don’t blame the British for giving the land to the Jews instead at all.
@ndehjoseph6107
8 күн бұрын
Just as the sold the land of Southern Cameroon to France, which has led to this almost 8 yrs of crisis, conflict,ghost town, in Anglophones section of the country. Why all this fighting, the Creator of heaven and earth has said go and multiply, fill the earth, more nations, countries, tribes, tongues,, Is it not left for UN to support any or tribe who are in need of being free or want to be independent to grant so peace reign. God grant all men positive wisdom to manage this garden call earth .
There never was a ‘state of Palestine’ … there was a British mandate of Palestine which expired in May 1948 which is why the British in 1947 turned the issue over to the UN which passed a resolution to partition ‘Jewish lands’ and ‘Arab lands (since the Arabs didn’t refer to themselves as Palestinians… the Israelis accepted and declared their state in May 1948 and the Arabs chose war with Israel and lost.
@dennile_7355
17 күн бұрын
Your misleading a lil with that addendum at the end… The partition split was between ‘Jewish lands’ & ‘Arab Lands’ were referred to as such as both groups were considered Palestinian(having lived in the British mandate of Palestine). Ntm you leave out the partitions gave much of the best land the area had and given the population ration a lot more of it. The official declaration of the independence of Israel was also preview before the Nakbah ethnic cleansing campaign the main reason for the following war Do kurds not deserve a state? Did the croats/Slovenes deserve theirs in the 90s? Just because a nationality hasnt had an represented government doesnt remove their right to self determination.
@Malkuth-Gaming
Күн бұрын
by "lost" you mean entered an armstice, Then a short fight with Egypt 8 years later, and then the six-day war in 1967 after some escalation from Jordan and Egypt. Then we have Yom Kippur in 73 which resulted in ceasefire between Egypt and Syria. Then in 74 Egypt and Israel finally signed a peace treaty. Next Peace treaty was in 1994 with Jordan. So the War is still going on with Syria, Lebanon and Iraq. (and now Palestine/Hamas and Iran)
@JonL-bb3ol
Күн бұрын
@@Malkuth-Gaming yes by ‘lost’ I mean suffering major military defeats by the Arab states which resulted in the Arab states loss of land (Sinai peninsula, Gaza Strip, Egypt, territory in the WB Jordan and the Golan Heights, Syria) …in some cases peace treaties were signed (Egypt 1979, Jordan 1984) and to show good faith Israel returned land for peace (Egypt Sinai peninsula); in other cases Syria (Golan heights) Israel kept strategic land to prevent another invasion by Syria. The main point is when you start and lose wars you shouldn’t be surprised to lose land (aka annexation)…
@JacobNeff-oq5km
5 сағат бұрын
lol, nEveR a sTaTe. The 12th century bce says otherwise.
@JonL-bb3ol
5 сағат бұрын
@@JacobNeff-oq5km more delusional nonsense … unless you count the Roman’s renaming Judea/ Samaria PalestiniA long before there were even ANY Muslims ANYWHERE… just to insult the Jews (aka known as the indigenous people to the territory after driving them out … but keep spreading your propaganda- no one believes you and no one cares
Facts can be a very inconvenient truth for radicals. It’s so refreshing to hear reason and truth. ❤️🙏🏻
@kevinallies1014
28 күн бұрын
None of this from her first lie is the truth. The Mandate for Palestine wasn’t a colonial entity. It was a mandate of the League of Nations in the aftermath of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire after World War I. If you can’t even tell the truth about basic background facts how are we supposed to believe any of your other lies?
@stevenstanley2369
27 күн бұрын
This is not the "truth", better read your Bible closely as God gave the land (now Israel) to Abraham & wife Sarah not Arabs who worshiped a different God and why he banished them (Palestinians) who use their own so called biblical history (Quran).
This is what happens when people only care about slogans and have no grasp of the actual history of what they are protesting.
@SarcasticTruth117
Ай бұрын
Sadly this is most people's depth of knowledge. They get all their facts from bumper stickers.
@PrincessPeriodFart
Ай бұрын
No, this is what happens when you get bogged down by specifics when analyzing a slogan.
@tangxuan542
Ай бұрын
@@miguellabordaburnett3617 Yeah, not everybody is the same but to have no knowledge of what you fight for is "Spupid" Hence he is correct. They lack maturity and common sense of a normal individual.
@SarcasticTruth117
Ай бұрын
@@miguellabordaburnett3617 I'm not saying people can't have different opinions or that mine should be the only one. I'm saying people don't even look into the details of their argument and don't construct in depth rebuttals. They just spout 2 sentenced and get upset.
@islandsjoinhands001
Ай бұрын
HASBARA BS!!!. The Romans got it from the Greeks. The term "Palestine" appeared in the 5th century BC when the ancient Greek historian Herodotuswrote of a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" between Phoenicia and Egypt in The Histories. Herodotus applied the term to both the coastal and the inland regions such as the Judean mountainsand the Jordan Rift Valley. Later Greek writers such as Aristotle, Polemon and Pausaniasalso used the word, which was followed by Roman writers such as Ovid, Tibullus, Pomponius Mela, Pliny the Elder, Dio Chrysostom, Statius, Plutarch as well as Roman Judean writers Philo of Alexandriaand Josephus. -And actually the origin of the word dates back to “1150 BC: Medinet Habu (temple): records a people called the P-r-s-t (conventionally Peleset) among those who fought against Egypt in Ramesses III's reign.”
Wrong. They want a state of colonization including British colonization Jews did not fight for the Palestinian people. Get your facts correct.
@RemyChamard-cx2dt
12 күн бұрын
Jews ARE the real Palestinians, since the romans. Get your facts straight.
Palestine was never a country never will be.
Never was a Palestine. It was Roman Emperor Hadrian who called Israel Palestine after he defeated the last of the Jewish rebels just to mock and humiliate the Jews.
@nickgoldring1446
22 күн бұрын
Hadrian, also a builder of walls...
@FI32690
21 күн бұрын
There was never Israel. so STFU
@udttdujgx
20 күн бұрын
Hey guess why the jews were being mocked and humiliated? Being assholes gets that treatment
@tesladrew2608
20 күн бұрын
Probably shouldn't have rebelled then, eh?
@RobiMac
20 күн бұрын
@@tesladrew2608 I don't think everybody is willing to be like you
I'd be surprised if any of them could even point Palestine out on an unlabeled map.
@nickgoldring1446
22 күн бұрын
MMDelta9 Probably even on a labeled one.
@BaptistJoshua
21 күн бұрын
🤡 🧟♀️🏳️🌈🧟♂️: *_What's a map?_*
@MMDelta9
20 күн бұрын
@@BabysGamesRBLX I'd be more surprised if you could do it without Google's help.
@nickgoldring1446
20 күн бұрын
@MMDelta9 All of your locations are not accurate. Not surprised at all.
@BaptistJoshua
20 күн бұрын
@@BabysGamesRBLX Your directions are incorrect. To the left *is* the Mediterranean Sea. Gaza is the ancient city that has long belonged to the Hebrews. In more recent years, foreigners came in the 1960's to do construction work, and then stayed. Mamy who had been there for generations fled or were nixxed out.
All slogans, no knowledge. Sad.
Bye bye Hamas!
Once again, their ignorance shows!
Kids this is why we should pay attention in history classes
@mareejoy6113
Ай бұрын
I completely agree. To be fair I don’t recall ever learning much about the Middle East specifically in the context of Israel or Palestine. The majority of the time my school’s history courses would mainly talk about America and Europe, and I don’t even think the names Israel or Palestine were ever mentioned. This is not to justify willful ignorance of the history behind the very thing you’re protesting. That’s just embarrassing…
@thenewbohemian5779
Ай бұрын
@@mareejoy6113 I spent a whole semester focused on the Arab Israeli Conflict as a Junior in Highschool, so its not unheard of. However, I was an IB student (similar to AP), so its isn't standard fair to dive into it.
@amgadmedhat6211
Ай бұрын
Yea the ones that told you that Israel always existed and never mentioned Palestine! Stop the bullshit
@thenewbohemian5779
Ай бұрын
@@amgadmedhat6211 What an absurd straw man...... Every history class Ive ever taken has correctly identified that Israel was founded in 1948, which is when it was founded. This was due to a UN charter which handed a small portion of the British Mandate in Palestine to establish the state of Israel, leaving the rest to a Turkish ethnic group that we now call Palestinians. Before the British Mandate in Palestine, it was "South Syria" under the Ottoman Empire. Before that, the territory was controlled by Egyptians, Romans, Greeks, and yes even Jews. However, there was never a sovereign Palestine. We can go all the way back to the Canaanites in the Bronze Age, and still, no sovereign Palestine.
@aquashadow2558
Ай бұрын
Right nah its not that its the fact that they came from centeal Europe and are not natives of that land is the issue,i mean they got no right to live there by kicking out the people already living there 🤷@@thenewbohemian5779
Judea was a jewish kingdom
There was never a Palestine state. It was only Palestine land.
It just calls for genocide. People chanting terrorist chants without knowing it's meaning.
The protesters are so ignorant its sickening
@Kindred500
Ай бұрын
@@kfchoesmad4180 what a troll 😂😂😂 if everyone who comments is Jewish then I guess you'd be too. I crack myself up
@Infinity-eb6mx
Ай бұрын
@@kfchoesmad4180 You just proved the original posters point. Pure, unadulterated ignorance.
@McFuggs123
Ай бұрын
This is definitely not being started by random protestors.
@ronbrown7941
Ай бұрын
Just because you don't care about people dying by Europeans, claiming that they own a land that doesn't belong to them from over 2000 years just shows your blatant ignorance
@amakrid
Ай бұрын
kzread.infoy6kjEpVRPD4
Despite Israel's best efforts, a Palestinian state still does not exist.
2 words, DNA test.
The Jewish people lived in that part of the world almost 1,100 years before the work Palestinians ever showed up in print. The Romans can up with the word and it was used as an insult toward the Jews who were being deported in 133AD
@lejs1974
Ай бұрын
So you're basically saying the Jews have no real history in this land and are just colonizers? Got it
@syedhusain4957
Ай бұрын
When the Jew came to modern day Israel there were already people living there known as Cana it’s according to the Old Testament. These Arabs are the descendants of those Canaanite’s dna test prove this so ur incorrect
@Oxlearhumbler
27 күн бұрын
That's just a recently popularized myth. In reality, the Greek historian Herodotus described the region as a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" all the way back [around 450 BCE], hundreds of years before the Romans came around. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_name_Palestine#Classical_antiquity
@djrudog1158
26 күн бұрын
So give it to the religious people who were before the jews
@tylerrobbins8311
26 күн бұрын
Just letting you know Palestine is derived from Peleset as the region was settled by Greek mercenaries. And yes the historical Pelset were then sister race to them Hebrews both "races" are dead at this point. But yes there was an actual independent Jewish state several times. Most famously you had the Kingdoms of Judea and Israel. Judea was conqured first and became a client state to Babylon. Israel stayed free until the Persians, then Selucid Greeks until they Macabee revolutio.
“We want it back to ‘48!” Britain boutta be hella happy with this one
These people are in a state of denial! There can't be a two state or any other solution until the Palestinians become realistic and recognize Israels' right to exist.
Free Palestine from the evil Hamas .
Why would Americans even be involved with that nonsense?
@evilbunny5
22 күн бұрын
Young people who have no real struggles in life pretending to be part of a movement to cosplay victimhood
@ralph259
22 күн бұрын
Social justice warriors
@simpetcla12
21 күн бұрын
Luxury beliefs
@joeharris6464
21 күн бұрын
Because they are paid and they want so bad to a part of something
@lubhal
20 күн бұрын
Because Palestine didn't tax them money. But "israel" does, and not for good reasons
The Arabs launched 3 wars of agression against Israel and lost. Wars have consequences.
@YesmineMenyar
Ай бұрын
And so does colonialism
@gilescorry
Ай бұрын
Why did Reagan believe that the Israelis were "Illegally and Immorally" occupying Palestinian land? (His words.) Why did he let the U.N. pass 21 resolutions condemning Israel? Why did he take Hafez al-Assad's side over Israel once? Why did he even take Saddam Hussein's side over Israel once? Because he wasn't a Leftist Neocon America Last and Israel First lunatic who put the interests of the Democratic Party Colony that calls itself Israel over his own country.
@davidrodgersNJ
Ай бұрын
@@YesmineMenyar Indeed. And so do atrocities.
@theintegralbody6069
Ай бұрын
Colonizing from what empire? @@YesmineMenyar
@Youyou-hu3xv
Ай бұрын
73’ wasnt a lost
That’s true but the modern state of Israel is less legitimate than a Palestinian state because the vast majority of Israelis either migrated to the land or their parents or grandparents migrated to the land whereas the Palestinians are descended from people who were already in the land before Jews came from Europe and started massacring them and ethnically cleansing the land. Having said that, the reality is that now both have been in the land for generations, the Palestinians longer than the Israelis, and kicking either out of the land at this point should not be a suitable option. However, what Israel is currently intending to do to the Palestinians is just that. Just because the Palestinians have never had a state doesn’t mean they’ve never had a homeland. They were in the land longer than the Jews currently there. They were just ruled over by the British and before that, the Ottomans, and before that, other Islamic caliphates because of the Arab Muslim invasion of the Middle East. In my view, we should not judge this matter based upon who had statehood in a land in the past. Neither Israel nor Palestine had statehood before 1948, and when Israel was created, many Jews migrated there and took not only the land allotted to them but more than that, even though most in the land before that were Arabs. So we should not judge based upon who had historical statehood, but we should judge based upon the well-being of the people who currently exist and seek justice for all. If Jews deserved statehood in 1948 when the British left, then Palestinians also deserve statehood. And today, more and more countries are recognizing Palestinian statehood. If that’s all Israel needed for statehood was international recognition, then that’s all Palestine needs as well.
@abit359
12 күн бұрын
👏👏👏
@CrazehGaming
9 күн бұрын
This is literally a foretold battle, it’s a necessary battle to determine the future of this world. Anyone who speaks on these matters without bringing up basic religious principles is ignorant and arrogant.
@justinwall5249
9 күн бұрын
@@CrazehGaming and anyone who turns a blind eye to injustice on the grounds that it’s necessary according to your particular religious interpretation is ignorant and arrogant. Who knows? You could be wrong in your interpretation of what “must happen.” And therefore you’d be justifying injustice and murder on false grounds and assumptions. You’re not God, so you don’t know everything. Who are you to say what “must” happen at this moment in history? What we ought to do is first and foremost have compassion on our fellow human beings. If you are a Christian, remember when Christ said to love even your enemies, to bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who persecute you. To do good to ALL. And both Jews and Christians are to “love your neighbor as yourself.” As an individual, that is your obligation. Are you doing that?
@Tamara-qd5dc
8 күн бұрын
Half of Israeli Jews are Sephardic Jews whose ancestors never left Middle East. They were pushed out of the countries that they lived in and were treated as second class citizens. Israel is the ONLY place where can live. There is no way back. Now, how come that Gaza had ~300,000 residents in 1967, including Sephardic Jews, but is 2,000,000 now, all the Jews were kicked out. Interesting to note that in 1674 a visiting Jesuit monk reported that Jews comprised quarter of population of Gaza.
@SharlatanShenanigan
8 күн бұрын
Literally not true. Palestine has never existed. in 1948, the region was being ruled by Ottoman and Jordinian empires. British invented palestine because they knew they needed oil to win wars and they wated to appease the muslim states. Second, in the actual naqba of 7th century, barely 10% of jews left the land. Most jews that are living there have always lived there. Third, the jewish state goes back 3500 years before Islam and Christianity was even a religion. And no it was not renamed palestina. palestina was the name given to a fort of the romans in one tiny village from where the combines Roman and Persian attack had been launched on israel. The Persians, Egyptians, and all other countries continued to refer to it as Judea/ Canan/ israel etc. And then ottoman and Syrian empires took control. THERE WAS NEVER a PALESTINE before 1900's when colonial nonsense invented it. Moreover, Palestinians are known to weaponise self determination. look up the fidayeen, And the civil wars and bloodhsed they started demanding a palestinians state from Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and TUnisia. It is a made up political ideology, nothing else. palestine has not right to israeli land. I like how Hamashole justification of this squatting and terrorism always comes down to "hey we did a lebensraum of Jews in their own homeland" and eugenics. How much more nazi can you get?
There was never a state of Palestine, ever!!
Every time I hear a protester speak, it’s just emotion, denial, deflection, & buzzwords 💙🙏🏻💙
@senorfrost3830
23 күн бұрын
So drone striking kids and aid workers is OK then? Because emotion?
@sccoastalfish2655
23 күн бұрын
And ZERO knowledge of reality in that region.
@tamarathejudeochristianmedium
23 күн бұрын
@@sccoastalfish2655 Yes, I’ve seen that too. 💙🙏🏻💙
@senorfrost3830
23 күн бұрын
@sccoastalfish2655 Educate us then on how the use of famine as a weapon and drone striking kids is acceptable.
@EHornett
23 күн бұрын
@@senorfrost3830Both sides do those things. I don't know what world you're living in, but in this one WAR ISN'T PRETTY.
palestine wins on the internet, Israel wins on the battlefield
@danielest748
Ай бұрын
Lol true
@kairuannewambui8456
Ай бұрын
For how long ,pity
@markmezyed6945
Ай бұрын
That’s what you think because there cowards that can’t fight on the ground or fight hand to hand combat because there losers like you 😂
@zi326
Ай бұрын
They might be winning now but if they continue the current course they will still lose on the battlefield eventually, because they don't have the guts to do what needs to be done to win it.
@Rudra-rf5cn
Ай бұрын
@@zi326They are literally a nuclear state, buddy, it's rules and not guts which is stopping them😂
Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸. What a strawman argument saying that its referring to the state of Palestine. No one is arguing that Palestine was an independent state. It was a piece of land where Muslims, Christians, and Jewish Palestinians lived alongside for centuries. Demanding Palestine be returned means that the land of Palestine be returned to the Palestinians that were kicked out of their homes by the Israeli Nakba movement. You love to claim that these Palestinian protesters don't know history while leaving out convenient details.
Palestinians are starting to look ignorant....
“Some people are just obsessed with ignorance. That's why they act without reasoning.” - Frank Stephen
@Promislandzion
24 күн бұрын
You are one of those people. It’s truly sad.
@evansglobal1
21 күн бұрын
@@Promislandzion It's obvious you didn't understand my comment.
@Promislandzion
21 күн бұрын
@@evansglobal1 Maybe not but it his video is filled with misinformation. 😂
@evansglobal1
21 күн бұрын
@@Promislandzion there is no misinformation in this video. You dislike it simply because it contradicts the pro-Hamas propaganda you were fed with. Wake up, bro ✍️
Palestine got its name from the Romans . They changed it from Judea in order to seperate the land from the people . Who were the Jews. So if we want to go back in time the Jews were the first Palestinians .
@yourtypicalnoob5067
2 ай бұрын
That supposedly gives them every right to occupy, bomb and terrorise Palestinian?
@Norn_Iron
2 ай бұрын
@@yourtypicalnoob5067An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.
@metro9376
2 ай бұрын
@@yourtypicalnoob5067chill man, lol he’s not saying that he’s just saying furthering the view that there was no Palestinian state to disprove the whole “we want our land back” but if you wanna go that route the Palestinian people are not peace loving they celebrated the 9/11 disaster
@daanvos194
2 ай бұрын
@@Norn_Ironit seems israel is removing hamas s ability to wage war So the jews, christians, druzes and arabs can live in peace after 80 years of struggle
@Jehanluc
2 ай бұрын
@@yourtypicalnoob5067no. Its a cool little fact stop taking it so seriously
We can go to 1910 Ottoman State of Palestine which Jews and Palestenians lived happily ever after
Half or should i say entirety of the palestinian protesters dont know that the last time palestine was a state was the kingdom of judea
Thank you. I stand with Israel and the Jewish peoples
There is no Palestine, only Judea. Jews state from ancient times.
@bruh-zw9hx
9 күн бұрын
where were they during the Palestinian mandate?
@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle
9 күн бұрын
@@bruh-zw9hxdoes the name Mussolini ring a bell?
@Kubiabi
9 күн бұрын
Listen to the court cowards
@joshuakausmann5504
8 күн бұрын
@@bruh-zw9hxseems you dont know a thing either. Jewish migration to the Mandate of Palestine began in the 1830’s and picked up in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s until the Second World War which would see them migrating on mass. The video earlier even stated that the Jews have been in the land and were fighting to get the British out. There were around 200,000 Jews living in the British Mandate of Palestine before the events of WWII.
@bruh-zw9hx
8 күн бұрын
@@joshuakausmann5504 those numbers also weren’t natural migration. they were being deported by other nations or attempting to flee discriminatory states. the land, which Britain illegally occupied, could’ve become a peaceful territory. instead of that, Britain promised both populations their own state. The colonial admin made no attempt to ensure peace between Palestinians, a population comprised of Jews, Muslims, and Christians mind you, and new arrivals from Europe. The new arrivals used their superior support from the British to exploit the situation. the Jews were a minority before WW2, and they were a minority after. however, they were given a totalitarian diktat over the region. much like how Americans have cause many conflicts by giving the Shia or Sunni minorities of a region absolute control over their religiously and ethnically distinct neighbors. remember, Britain’s original plan was for Israel to have the entire levant essentially.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸
Remember kids, Syria was Christian at one point- and Israel was Jewish. Muslim nations conquered them all thousands of years ago, meaning they weren’t there first
@postcardpearl
Ай бұрын
Yeah, but the people who converted to Islam are the descendants of those Jews and Christians, not foreigners who displaced the native population. Genetic tests prove it.
@ObiWanBockobi
Ай бұрын
Exactly the Muslims are the colonial invaders. Just, like, every, one, else. Everybody wants to rule the world.
@chai8941
Ай бұрын
And Anglo-Saxons and Normans colonized England. What matters right now is the ongoing conflict. A Jewish state of some form should exist in the Levant, you can’t exactly get rid of it now. But Israel should also stop bombing civilians and humanitarian aid. And you know, the whole ethnic cleansing. It’s simpletons like the protesters in this video who are the problem, people who blindly support one side or the other without seeing the nuance of the situation.
@bryanwilson5812
Ай бұрын
Literally the dumbest thing I've read today!
@HydeCorvus
Ай бұрын
And they were pagans before either Christianity or Judaism 🤡 wanna go back to worshipping the sun and making some sacrifices? No? Well it's pretty weird that when it comes to historical arguments y'all just cherry pick what you like ,twist a little then consume and ignore the rest. It's history, either take all of it or stay in your bubble.
These protestors have no idea what they're doing.
@gilescorry
Ай бұрын
Why did Reagan believe that the Israelis were "Illegally and Immorally" occupying Palestinian land? (His words.) Why did he let the U.N. pass 21 resolutions condemning Israel? Why did he take Hafez al-Assad's side over Israel once? Why did he even take Saddam Hussein's side over Israel once? Because he wasn't a Leftist Neocon America Last and Israel First lunatic who put the interests of the Democratic Party Colony that calls itself Israel over his own country.
@alifsajesaje3
Ай бұрын
wow, you have the idea ?😂
@b.ballooon9225
Ай бұрын
@@alifsajesaje3yah, some advice, when trying to convince the West to help you and not Israel, maybe don't shout out loud your evil plan to take over the entire region including Israel proper to the world. Maybe idk....just chant for a fair two state like same normal people? Why does Greece have to accept its losses but you cannot?
@CreeperG0d
Ай бұрын
@@alifsajesaje3 I have the idea these protestors didn't receive much attention as children, and just heard about Palestine and are blindly supporting it just like they did with Ukraine back in 2022.
@Bootsystem66
Ай бұрын
Problem with too many people on benefit..
Little does this woman know that when the british ruled over these lands the citizens actually had Palestinian passports & Palestinian IDs (even with the british ruling)
Sounds like they hate tuesdays.
Excellent, return to the british mandate! The Empire rises...
Give them a free plane tickets to Gaza
@debbiedeering7998
19 күн бұрын
Yes please!
@Albaniakurd
18 күн бұрын
without flying back
@mewhen-aaaaaaaa
18 күн бұрын
People who say this also should be, and then they would probably understand tye protesting
@jakubbarton1770
15 күн бұрын
Thats like saying we should fly people to Guantanamo bay for protesting that it be shut down?
@idangnasagac7983
15 күн бұрын
ah exactly,,,, let them go back to where they belong 😂
Israel does not want a 2 state Solution either. It is an absolute solution But every time Israel moves in Which precipitates a response from Palestine in the form of hamas. Neither side wants peace both want everything for themselves
48 doesn’t sound so bad, can’t have a war between two states if a much bigger empire rules them both
Looks like the British are coming back for round 2!🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
They will never admit the truth. Just jew hatred
@ameralzen3367
29 күн бұрын
Brain washed
@WithoutFear804
29 күн бұрын
Last time I checked 30000 Jewish people didn't just get murderd in less than 8 months. You are not the victim here
@averageyoutubehandle497
28 күн бұрын
@@ameralzen3367yeah, washed clean of the fucking crap that the left's brains are filled with.
@SebastiansSebastian-fc4pj
28 күн бұрын
Brain washed pro palies indeed Don't even know why Palestine attacked Israel and was formed.. Amin al Husseini + Adolf, you can thank their influence of attacking jews.. and you can thank The arabs getting their asses kicked, cause they still try to commit the Holocaust they started
@Lolee56
22 күн бұрын
Right…. It’s not like there aren’t MANY Jews who are anti Israel or anything like that..
Amen❤
Puppets repeating the slogan they were given is as pathetic as it gets.
@geopolitical23
Ай бұрын
Agree
@darkendoceans1923
Ай бұрын
Most of them are Gen Z college kids which is embarrassing to me, A Gen Z high schooler. Not all of us are like this. I did my own research and i know most of the history behind it and i know the truth of what hamas has done.
@AnnWahlquist
Ай бұрын
the usual woke numbnuts
@stealthattack2209
Ай бұрын
You look like an aerosol
@stealthattack2209
Ай бұрын
@@darkendoceans1923hello aerosol
same people wanting LGBT for Palestine
@sdust251977
Ай бұрын
Next you hear, make Gaza gay again, lol
@Al43139
Ай бұрын
Now that’s really insane, unless you like to fly off buildings.
@rbritt1037
Ай бұрын
You know it's kinda funny you see all the women not wearing that crap over there face and head so I guess they want that shit here too?
@mannyharris524
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@bigbearmerriott9056
Ай бұрын
Lol good luck with that
That’s false also palestines never been a state they are Arab
Still the killing of Palestinian people is wrong and this does not justify anything. Israel is a settler colonial state.
Hamas wants to destroy Israel but can't. Israel could destroy Hamas but won't.
@johnstuartsmith
20 күн бұрын
It ain't over 'till it's over..
@hyacinthlynch843
19 күн бұрын
Bill Maher does get it right once in a while.
@hyacinthlynch843
19 күн бұрын
@@johnstuartsmith What does that mean?
@marcosnunez9285
19 күн бұрын
Underrated comment, cause That’s a damm right good sir…
@linooliva3965
18 күн бұрын
If they could they would which is proof that they can’t the modern Jew only plays at war they don’t have what their ancient ancestors had.
For those that still don't get it, Palestine , NEVER EXISTED, drop the Mike!!!!!!
@alexandrias_lighthouse
Ай бұрын
Yeah... Picking the mic up. Before you leave: BEFORE WW2 Palestine existed. The "British Mandate of Palestine" was the result after WW2 when the British BEING THE BRITISH saw the opportunity to take over that area of land. There are thousands of Bibles, Torahs and other manuscripts that clearly stated the land being the "state of Palestine" long before the second ww. Your history class must have been "Israeled" 😂 lol
@stealthattack2209
Ай бұрын
Hello George you brilliant aerosol
@yaboitheredux
Ай бұрын
@@alexandrias_lighthousebefore WW2 Palestine wasn’t a country it became a country in the 80’s and WW2 happened from 1930’s to 1945 mic drop
@alexandrias_lighthouse
Ай бұрын
@@yaboitheredux yet every country around it recognized it as such to the point where any Bible printed with a map before WW2 they called the holy land the land of Palestine
@yaboitheredux
Ай бұрын
@@alexandrias_lighthouse except no country did so why tell lies a basic google search can clear that up
Never underestimate protestors' ignorance and lack of knowledge.
It is The Kingdom of Judea, The Land of Israel. People should just stop messing with it! I pray all will know The Prince of Peace, Yeshua Ha Mashiach, Jesus ❤
@generaleyan1676
Ай бұрын
Nope Arabian peninsula for the arabs
@harnessriscallous7466
Ай бұрын
It's a shit hole is what it is.
@manoelmusicchannel
Ай бұрын
@@generaleyan1676 why? but its the truth.... you cant just do that
@generaleyan1676
Ай бұрын
@@manoelmusicchannel I mean this was true 3000 years ago but I don’t think the Jews have a claim on those lands anymore. The only reason they are there right now is because the uk wanted to give something to the Jews after the holocaust but they didn’t ask the palestiniens who have been living there for more than a millennia
@Ukn_Gmr
Ай бұрын
@@generaleyan1676did you just.... Not watch the video at all? Also the Jews have always been known to live in that region longer than Muslims. The Jews were oppressed in the region by, for example,The Ottomans empire and Persian empire. Also the Brits kept it under a PALESTINIAN mandate until the Jews overthrew it, eventually leading to the two states that are there today. Israel definitely has a claim to their own homeland, not to mention they've defended it against Arabian coalitions multiple times.
So basically, if you go back, the closest independent state was Jewish edit: may or may have not started a massive war in the comments (what a shock)
@kyleschmidt4830
Ай бұрын
Judaism predates Islam by hundreds of years.
@darkendoceans1923
Ай бұрын
Correct. These emo kids don’t actually read up in accurate history and just love to have sh*t to talk about.
@fyrchmyrddin1937
Ай бұрын
In reality, the protesters would prefer to return to the state of affairs in 1943 Germany - but they know that they use euphemisms & slogans to provide deniability to their benefactors.
@harz632
Ай бұрын
Hamas are in essence Nazis and Palestine is Nazi germany. They voted in a tyrannical genocidal group into power that has no problems sacrificing every last Palestinian to accomplish their twisted dream of genocide. Hitler started world war two with the justification that he had to save the Germans that were (and it is true) treated badly outside of Germany. He wanted a united German Homeland just like Hamas and Palestine
@everydaylife5641
Ай бұрын
Yes, it’s that simple. That means the people living there basically don’t exist. 🤡🤡🤡
If you stand with Palestine then go there 😮😮
So now they want to go back to colonialism? 🤔
You want them to actually learn history and truth??? Sorry that requires brain cells!!!
@ReligionOfSacrifice
Ай бұрын
When Palestine was just Palestine they made their coins with Hebrew words on the Palestinian coin saying "the land of Israel” and so not only did Jews live there, but they (The Jews in Palestine) were bucking the system of repression by outside sources even then.
@joycarmichael1476
Ай бұрын
😂
@lejs1974
Ай бұрын
You are right, that's impossible for Zionists xD
@leonardorodriguez795
28 күн бұрын
Some of them were asked the name of the river and the sea....they didnt lnow.
@StaticDaSticc
28 күн бұрын
@@lejs1974nah, its for the hamas supporters.
To my knowledge, neither Hamas nor any other Palestinian representative authority has officially put that down in writing as a proposal for a permanent peace. Instead, the Palestinians voted in Hamas as their government in Gaza and have demanded the complete elimination of Israel. So, these pro Palestinian protesters ranting about 1948 is pointless.
@Heidelmann
29 күн бұрын
Your knowledge is out of date. Hamas updated their charter in 2017 to clarify their resistance to Zionism rather than Jews. This new charter recognizes the borders of 1967 as a reasonable compromise.
@user-os4gw3gl9b
29 күн бұрын
so
@ohheyemmi
29 күн бұрын
The last Palestinian election was in 2006. For all but 6 months of the last 73 YEARS, Israel has occupied Palestine in what experts are now calling an 'apartheid state'. You remember apartheid, yeah? South African genocide? Fun fact, the International Criminal Court is issuing Netanyahu an arrest warrant for violating the Rome Statute and participating in genocide against the Palestinian people and Israeli arabs. Hamas =/= All Palestinians. If you were being oppressed for decades, your land and homes stolen, your movement restricted, your family relocated and denied basic human rights, Israeli arabs being denied citizenship, seeing your friends and family slaughtered by an occupying force....what would you do? Would you politely ask them for your rights, or vote for a group promising to defend you and give back the rights you've been denied? We know what the US chose, but I'm gonna take a guess that you don't have a problem with that detail. Most Palestinians and Pro Palestine protestors and supporter do NOT support Hamas, I would even guess that the majority of Palestinians would be okay with a two state solution if it meant stopping the violence and murder and death. Unfortunately, Netanyahu has said he wants all Palestinians "wiped from the face of the earth completely," considering Palestinians "inhuman animals." Where else have we heard of an an entire group of people being labeled sub human/animals/infestations? I'll let you figure that bit out. These people are angry. They are terrified for their lives, and one of the biggest militaries in the world is supporting Israel. So many people believe the propaganda that Jewish people can't commit genocide because hitler (oh hey, its the answer from up there ^), and their homes and hospitals and schools continue to be bombed, their children continue to live in a literal war zone, and the international community continues to do nothing. You'd be angry and scared too. You'd be looking for any help you can get too. The last time Palestine had an election was 2006. 18 years ago. Imagine if Trump or Biden (whatever side you're on) was president for 18 years and kept registries of all minorities and sectioned off certain areas of cities minorities are allowed to live in. If you were one of those minorities, how would you feel then? I am not defending Hamas. Their actions are reprehensible. But to have that opinion when Hamas does it but not when Israel does it is pure hypocrisy. One can understand why a thing exists without condoning or supporting that thing, and just because a group has experienced genocide in the past does not mean they are incapable of committing genocide themselves.
@Sevenfold120
28 күн бұрын
Their proposal for peace is rather simple. For Israel to dissolve.
@Oxlearhumbler
27 күн бұрын
Well you're knowledge is very limited. The Arab Peace Initiative has been around for over two decades now, and the PA has been on board the whole time, at least other than the brief period in which they were under Hamas control. It just calls for a two state solution negotiated on the basis of international law, and it's Israel who has never been pressured into accepting peace on those terms.
Palestine isn't a state or a place it's a people.
Yes, EXCEPT, labeling it Palestine give the implication it was a country and it never was.
Israel has fought a number of conflicts with various Arab forces, most notably in 1948-49, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, 2006, and 2023-present. Arabs started and lost all the time.
@shahstranusy
19 күн бұрын
0 Israeli military 100% American support
@carljacobson7156
18 күн бұрын
@@shahstranusy No - actually in 1948, the US was reluctant to help the Israeli military, so the Israelis managed to purchase old leftover WW2 weapons from France and Czechoslovakia - and this rag-tag Israeli Military, composed of many Holocaust Survivors, defeated 5 invading Arab Armies and increased their territory by 140%. It wasn't until 1973 that the US actually openly supported Israel - due to the Arab Oil Embargo because of the 1973 Arab-Israeli War (the Yom Kippur War.
@thekidsbros9182
18 күн бұрын
@shagstranusy keep coping
@shahstranusy
18 күн бұрын
@@thekidsbros9182 7 year old typing 💬 lol 😆
@NNZzOO
16 күн бұрын
Yes and every time the Arabs attacked first they slowly lost land
Yes, they are saying that they want British occupation.
And what you are saying is to distraught us from the murdering of men, women, children and babies.
@randomperson-uj4bp
11 сағат бұрын
Are you serious? The casaulty figures are unknown, and its extremely likely Hamas officals are false, as Hamas is known for using civilian clothing.
Palestine: 💀 Israel: 💀 Kingdom of Jerusalem: 🗿🍷 edit2: i started a war
@chaltrs
Ай бұрын
Kingdom of Jerusalem is Israel
@boomdoodles_alt
Ай бұрын
@@chaltrs i know, just the modern i’m pointing out
@yourfriend3999
Ай бұрын
@@boomdoodles_altno it's not a kingdom of jerusalem well kingdom of jerusalem is just waiting for the right time
@chaltrs
Ай бұрын
@@boomdoodles_alt huh
@chaltrs
Ай бұрын
@@yourfriend3999 still kingdom of Jerusalem was a Jewish country
As an American with vested interest in Western economics, I fully support the idea of a return to British colonialism in the Middle East. Maybe there can be a British mandate of Israel. Then Palestinians can leave the Israelites alone and hate the Brits. And everyone can stop blaming America for everything and go back to blaming the Brits!
@tommybelanger92
Ай бұрын
As someone who hate British colonialism, I agree.
@mariuspopescu284
Ай бұрын
@@tommybelanger92 You agree because your hate takes over rationality.
@JP-ix3sn
Ай бұрын
I don't think the Brits will be genociding anyone, so l agree. Before 1948 Palestinians, Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews all got along pretty well, all being.Semitic people. The Ashkenazis will need to return to Europe.
@Vainglorious.1
Ай бұрын
@JP-ix3sn Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you may want to do a quick Google search of Colonial Britain... not been all sunshine and rainbows and lollipops, my guy.
@JP-ix3sn
Ай бұрын
@@Vainglorious.1 Hey, doing Colonialism is a tough gig. Tally ho!
Palestine existed before 1948.
Well guess what you have to go back 6000 years for Israel so. Ur argument goes both ways
1948? In 1948, neither palestine nor israel existed as a sovereign state. In 1946, neither jordan nor israel nor palestine existed as a sovereign state. Well i wonder what exactly does *we want 1948* slogan mean for these protesters Do they want british to rule that region again? 😁
@lrmry
2 ай бұрын
They’re actually very pro-British monarchy. We’ve been missing the point this whole time.
@ashercohen5034
2 ай бұрын
Israel and Judea exist for 3500 years, unless you accept colonialism and ethnic cleansing renaming the Jewish land, as the British did at 1922.
@shaikarif9773
2 ай бұрын
They wanted the Ottoman Empire where that time everyone lived happily together Arab Palestinians, Arab Jewish Arab Christians speaking the same languages and cultures .lovely bonding. When were Europeans kicked out Jewish people, beaten killed, only Palestinians warmly welcomed them gave them food and shelter Then1945 Holocaust happened leadership of Nazi Hetler all Jewish miserable gathered into Palestine 🇵🇸 After few years 1948 palestinianscaust happened by European zionist AL NAKBA THE CATASTROPHE FOR PALESTINIANS
@dimitri6758
2 ай бұрын
they just want visas to the UK
@jake_dev1046
2 ай бұрын
That is their idea for britain to take over the area once again
When I heard "we want 48", I started sweating. I thought they were talking about the contiguous United States.
@jcsinca3387
2 ай бұрын
They are, that's next.
@lostinthesupermarket
2 ай бұрын
Well in America you already have rachida tlaib and ilhan Omar which are clearly working for the islamists
@Merica50
2 ай бұрын
Yes Russia is next
@Abacuscalcus
2 ай бұрын
They are. Looks like TikTok already has taken its first mind.
@ilplolthereturn7525
2 ай бұрын
Alaska and Hawaii are shaking rn
Palestine was never a thing….
Another genocide. Two wrongs dont make a right.
Which is why history matters. There was no such thing as a Palestine state. In fact if you look in the bible and ancient maps you will only find Israel and no mention of Palestine.
@gilescorry
Ай бұрын
Why did Reagan believe that the Israelis were "Illegally and Immorally" occupying Palestinian land? (His words.) Why did he let the U.N. pass 21 resolutions condemning Israel? Why did he take Hafez al-Assad's side over Israel once? Why did he even take Saddam Hussein's side over Israel once? Because he wasn't a Leftist Neocon America Last and Israel First lunatic who put the interests of the Democratic Party Colony that calls itself Israel over his own country.
@gilescorry
Ай бұрын
What does the Apostle Paul say about your Unbiblical views about promises belonging to people by blood?
@emmanuelenyinwa1443
Ай бұрын
The fact you cited "the bible" is 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@JoseSantiago-bn7mn
Ай бұрын
Ok and what's your point? Are you saying it's okay for Israel to kill Palestinians because they didn't have a state?
@emmanuelenyinwa1443
Ай бұрын
@@JoseSantiago-bn7mn Has ara BULLSHIT has been trampled by the truth. It doesn't matter anymore how many professional LIARS they hire.
Imagine the Brits or the French or Spaniards demanding parts of North America back. That's the logic of the Palestinians. Tell me which country on earth has never defined its borders through conflict?
@harnessriscallous7466
Ай бұрын
By that logic if middle east takes Israel militarily like the British did all good right? Dont you complain now! 😂😊
@ohyea3876
Ай бұрын
@@harnessriscallous7466Lol they couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. Look at them crying victim as they hold their civilians as shields. True cowards, but not surprising coming from a religion that licks the heel of a man that was illiterate 😂
@thenewbohemian5779
Ай бұрын
@@harnessriscallous7466 They've tried, multiple times since 1948, with the first attempt being a five state coalition called the Arab League headed by Nasser the Egyptians....... Guess what, the Israelis trounced them and increased land holding each and every time.
@harnessriscallous7466
Ай бұрын
@@thenewbohemian5779 and Iran just got through the iron dome and attacked the military base that hit the Iran embassy... Without using their hypersonic rockets, just cheap knockoff rockets. Oops, the world now knows Israels retaliatory dominance is a fraud, America wasted hundreds of billions on a faulty iron dome, and Israel has 0 respect in the world theater.... So again, nice to know you agree it will be 100% legit if the middle east takes over. In fact, you're daring them to try 😂
@harnessriscallous7466
Ай бұрын
I seem to remember the French being so butthurt by being taken over by the Nazis that the leader signed off on as many as 120,000 dead French citizens when Americans warned them they were invading Normandy... Only 60,000 French citizens were killed by the end of the struggle. Funny, French seemed wildly butthurt then.
Speaking with fact ❌ Speaking with confidence ✅
These demonstrators know nothing and want to know even less!!
48 ??when they got their asses kicked??
Pretty sure Palestine was never a state, it's like calling the Midwest a state.
@harispratama4691
2 ай бұрын
Pretty sure every states were never a state at some point in history
@midnightdemon9157
2 ай бұрын
so do we all agree that before british invasion and zionist migration this place was for the palestinians arab right ? 😂😂😂
@spladoinkk
2 ай бұрын
@@harispratama4691so then theres no occupation💯
@jk0423
2 ай бұрын
@@midnightdemon9157no
@Neptuniumthefox-vn4pc
2 ай бұрын
"mandate of palestine"
There is no such state called Palestine! And there could never be such a state!
Hebrews owned that land for a 1000 years before Romans kicked them out