When Jordan starts talking about bricklayers, you know shit is about to go down. 😂👀

@runswithraptors

Жыл бұрын

Their response "whaa-" 😰🤐

@melissadixon4091

Жыл бұрын

He’s got to let us know! We’ve been brainwashed to think differently! But yes, love the bricklayer straight talk too. I wish I would have known about him when I was raising boys!

@Hisoka54

Жыл бұрын

I worked in factories when I was a student Night Shift in cold rooms and there was 0 females. Surprisingly nobody wanted to equalise that 😂

@Bellavita60

Жыл бұрын

I love the way he stops people in their tracks!

@tracycrider7778

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

If women got paid less then companies would only hire women bc it would cost them less...

@curseds0ldier

Жыл бұрын

But what is more important, quantity or quality. Cause the average woman will never be as good as the under average male in brick laying

@TheyCalledMeT

Жыл бұрын

there have been a few companies which where convinced that works .. non of them exist anymore .. the most famous .. a woman who was a convinced feminist, hired exclusively females .. and ended her company with it because they become vicious with no males around. that and their entitled behavior made the company go bankrupt in the first years

@singingwindrider9881

Жыл бұрын

Which is why you see more women in the workforce & more men out of work. Also explains the changing norm of men staying home as caregivers in families with children. You just stated proof of unequal pay. 😆

@singingwindrider9881

Жыл бұрын

@@curseds0ldier that's sexist. 😒 Many women do better quality work than men.

@chicagohoosier1

Жыл бұрын

@@singingwindrider9881 More compared to what or to whom? More than the other gender or more than in the past? Either way, there’s a looong way to go before that pendulum swings in the other direction. 🤣

Why has truth become so hard to swallow ?

@eduarddeguzman236

Жыл бұрын

Because it's not.

@AnonymousGuy12

Жыл бұрын

​@@eduarddeguzman236 obviously it is. Stats doesn't revolve around opinions

@eduarddeguzman236

Жыл бұрын

​@@AnonymousGuy12it's not because his stats are actually wrong. Statistics does not represent the entire population. Not all bricklayers, prisoners, aggressive are male. There are actually women who are bricklayers, aggressive etc. You have to know first how statistics work

@randomviewer8756

10 ай бұрын

​@@eduarddeguzman236you did not get the point did you? The point was its mostly men who do those jobs. Why would you twist their words?

@bellzeppelin6913

9 ай бұрын

@@eduarddeguzman236you got a very IQ

She doesn't want to lay bricks 😭😂👍👌👏

You know why some people hate JP? Cuz they can't compete with him when it comes to logic. He's on point and very informed!

@user-fu2sh8nr9b

Ай бұрын

No, because he says off topic things people cannot understand how they are relevant.

„Its a very simplistic analysis.“ 🤝🤣 smart way to say „that’s a stupid idea“ or „you’re completely off“.

Men and women are supposed to complete each other, not compete with each other.

@ayushmishraqwe

10 ай бұрын

There there we got it 😊

@marcodragneel8035

8 ай бұрын

what a simple but meaningful way to put it. great job mah man

@calebwalker7619

5 ай бұрын

finally somebody said it

Dr Peterson is the light that destroys misconceptions.

@user-fu2sh8nr9b

Ай бұрын

Hero of bricklayers :D

Can’t beat education and common sense

I saw a study that said that men get paid more in physical therapy because they are more likely to ask for more pay. So I asked and I received more.

@SitNSpinRecords

Жыл бұрын

That also reflects that men on average are more disagreeable and women are on average more agreeable. Not much, but enough. Like 60-40 Disagreeable people tend to make more money because they will argue their point while more agreeable people are more likely to accept no for an answer.

@marshmallowmann20

Жыл бұрын

there's even a study that if women ask for the same guys ask for that they are more likely to get more, because women are still seen as something exotic in the workplace, because so few of them actually work

@petermelnyk7664

Жыл бұрын

@@marshmallowmann20 so then where are All the female bricklayers?

@benjaminmorris4962

Жыл бұрын

Good. Doing research and sticking up for self is how you get the benefits companies don't want any employees to know about. It's why companies want you to think that it's wrong to discuss your pay with your co-workers, when in fact it is a protected legal right. You may disclose(or keep secret) your pay at will with anyone you wish. It's how employees know if they're being paid fairly... Companies also do similar things with customers too. For example, some internet companies' "contracts"/fees are negotiable - but they won't ever tell you that directly.

@DanDaFreakinMan

Жыл бұрын

They tend to do the trick where they pretend to agree. I guess it doesn't work out in this scenario.

Spot on, show me a all female combat unit!

Brilliant!

No you misunderstood! We want more gravy jobs!!

@gutyourtrust

Жыл бұрын

😂

@johnclaybaugh9536

Жыл бұрын

Yep.

@donaldplamp9704

Жыл бұрын

@@runswithraptors I agree I know some women that work as hard or harder than men. I also see women take a job and expect not to do the full job and expect a male co-worker to pick up the slack. I knew a girl in Desert Storm that was in my unit she got my job but didn't know it wasn't as easy as she thought. After she realized that she got HELP from me to do all the Hard parts of the job because she was sleeping with the platoon sergeant!

@riccardocarbo2479

Жыл бұрын

@@donaldplamp9704 yet another way women have that men mostly don’t.

@Developer888

7 ай бұрын

no we understand you perfectly, you want easy well paid safe jobs, well the country wasn't built on safe well paid jobs

He destroyed her

@rudiaguswidono5450

Жыл бұрын

This video is edited so only jordan talking. In the full video the woman keep cutting jordan and pushing her idea out.

@kaihill8464

Жыл бұрын

yeah all of the Jordan Peterson videos on this channel are edited. I would be careful about what you take from these edited versions and the titles of them. Some of them are misleading and doesn’t always represent what Jordan says in the original videos.

If women were paid less by default, wouldn’t people just employ women to save costs?

@johnd1047

Жыл бұрын

We would!

@singingwindrider9881

Жыл бұрын

Exactly why we see many more women in today's workforce & men have a harder time getting work (unless really brilliant, tall or really hard manual labor a woman's biological physique isn't equipped to handle). Don't know about you but I can see our culture moving towards Amazonian (mythical culture) standards. Where men are kept for breeding & hard labor. Sound/ look familiar yet?

@mrumbrella9961

Жыл бұрын

​@@singingwindrider9881 If its true then I would love to have my woman work and earn for me, show me beautiful places, protect me from bad guys and I'll cook and clean for her.

@strongback6550

Жыл бұрын

This is why I support a minimum wage for women only so that they have to be paid at least the industry average. 😂

@pete5819

Жыл бұрын

Yes. I would only hire women & pay them less if this was actually true

I concur with you sir a 100%

Peterson is the best

I was about 20 years old working in California in the fields in 1995. It was raining and we were all covered with yellow suits which are made out of rubber cutting broccoli🥦. Thunder was coming down hard 2 miles away a man got killed by thunder . 5 miles away another man got killed by thunder. We kept working. my wife was at home pregnant. I was happy to be able to provide for my wife. I was so young and so immature. 15 years later I was in a pool in Mississippi with my kids in the far far away it started thundering and they took us out of the pool . And I went back in time where we used to work under there rain and thunder as a men and nobody came to pull us out of the field.true story

@jesseleighbrackstone8365

Жыл бұрын

May God Bless you, Sir!🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

@shay4261

Жыл бұрын

thats not brave thats just dumb

@reneaguilar3471

Жыл бұрын

@@shay4261 tell that to the farming companies . Those were the practices of the day . Read about Cesar Chavez and you will hear even more . And don’t judge so easily. Some people think fishing for crabs in Alaska is dumb but that’s the point of this video dummy . Men do dangerous jobs . Someone has to do it . I bet you work in a library or a cubicle.

I love this guy.

"In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

Not sure about this whole context but his points are correct. The more dangerous the job, the higher the wage. The premise of equal pay is a woman & man are doing the same job with all things being the same (equal), then there should be no difference in pay. Ex: truckers...gender doesn't matter, mileage does. You are paid by the mile regardless of if you are male or female. It should be the norm for all jobs wherein duties are the same (teacher, police, nurse, etc). But often, it isn't. Male teachers, police & nurses make more simply because they're male (& as more than one supervisor stated, he has a family to support. What!? Like single mothers don't?!). And it is like that for scientists, ceo's, & many many other jobs. Again, all things being equal & only difference is gender, then pay should be the same. And it isn't 😒.

@andreh.dupuis8475

Жыл бұрын

interesting point, police officers are majority male, nurses are majority female, they have very different payscales and retirement requirements but have similar education requirements and stress. Part of it is linked to union negotiations and importance given to law & order compared to healthcare. Now why are male nurses earning more on average than female nurses? This would merit an in depth analysis, but factors are: number of hours (overtime) worked, interest for head nurse positions, lower chances of taking parental leave, personality traits. According to JP males are not naturally interested in people compared to women, so the male nurse is somewhat of an outlying point that merits further study.

Awesome power of knowledge

Facts are not toxic remember that

l do appreciate his perspective!

Please show this to every f.. feminists in the wester world where the laws are equal and women are treated with advantage

@FirstNameLastName-sy2jq

Жыл бұрын

both men and women benefit from certain advantages, i wouldn’t say one benefits more than the other, but i agree with what ur saying

@horacio373

Жыл бұрын

It's serves to their purposes, the narrative of fighting an unjust system gives them moral virtue, plus they benefit from the privileges they push through "gender inclusión" politics, I have no idea what are the numbers, but is clear that most of people "working" in gender politics are women, and primary focus of those polítics is never people wellbeing, just women and other "oppressed minorities"

@AndreaDingbatt

Жыл бұрын

@@horacio373 Simply put, it is Divide and Conquer mandate.

@anoncannon

Жыл бұрын

I noticed myself telling my 3 year old daughter as we are out and about and I am explaining things to her: the lift is broken? Man will come to fix that. Out toilet is broken? Man will come to fix that. Pothole on the road? Man will come to fix that. Street light is broken? Man will come to fix that. Man built our house etc. Where as her teachers, nurses and doctors have all been women. I am obviously her main caregiver as her mother, I breastfed her so she is more attached to me. Some things my husband can do for my daughter that I can't. This is the reality.

@BornToFly787

Жыл бұрын

True feminists are not against man but willing to build equality wherever there's a lack of it, despite the gender. Man do work longer hours, however we are missing here also that most of a woman are taking on more then full time jobs when they are mothers. Meaning at the end woman take on "invisible" job on the top of their regular full time job. The job is also with no salary. The solution lays in looking from both perspectives and building mutual understanding.

He says in one interview..."well OFF to the brickworks for you"!

He is the best!!!

He makes sense.

Thank you, next.

I wish I could agree with him...cause I'm conservative...but my wife in a very high power position is experiencing gender bias at her work...things just dont make sense...

I love you Jordan for caring down the feministic mind sets of people

Based and red pilled

Man I wish this guy was in charge of the uk💯

the problem is people strive for equality when they should strive for equity

@nguyenjohnny9423

Жыл бұрын

No. That's stupid. Society should be after equality of opportunities, not equity.

@sadgurlpodcast___7692

5 ай бұрын

@@nguyenjohnny9423 again, equality is not what we need, but equity. If I set a bar at the men's height and the woman was half his size, the liklihood that she will reach this bar height is low bc the bar is set the same for everyone. Now If I set a bar 3 inches above the man and 3 inches above the woman, don't you think that would be a lot more fair? Equality hasn't helped at all if I'm frank hence why equity is even mentioned.

❤let's go brother tell her off facts👍

Please what’s background sound used ? Any idea ?🥲

JP, I agree with the point you’re making, but I take extreme issue with your statement that men work longer hours than women. Poppycock! As a wife, home-schooling mother, and a professional, I guarantee that my husband does *not* work more hours than I do. Incidentally, for the better part of our lives, I made a good deal more money than my husband did. Surely you’ve heard the saying: ‘A man’s work is from sun to sun, but a woman’s work is never done.’ In my experience and observation, that’s a true statement. Love and All Good Things, Jesse.🌹

@farrekarimi1980

Жыл бұрын

BBC says that women work on average 22 hours a week, compared to the 34 hours of men. Forbes says men work on average 14 hours a month more than women. I could go on and list ALL the other sources and statistics but instead I’m just gonna say that just because you as an individual have worked more hours than ur husband or have seen 5-10 women work more than their partners does NOT mean that it is that way for the whole word or in a whole country.

@jesseleighbrackstone8365

Жыл бұрын

@@farrekarimi1980 There are exceptions to every ‘rule,’ but anyone who says that a stay-at-home mother doesn’t work round the clock, simply isn’t paying attention! I do know men who work pretty much ‘round the clock’ too, but I’ve never known of one who couldn’t take a vacation. Motherhood isn’t like that. Mothers are *always* on duty. This isn’t a competition, it’s just a well established fact. Blessings! 🙏🏻 Jess.🌹

@nathand4500

Ай бұрын

christ. you're arguing by anecdote. your personal story doesn't represent the entirety of society. typical female arguing tactic.

@nathand4500

Ай бұрын

@@jesseleighbrackstone8365 now youre shifting the goal posts. we are talking about paid work, not life.

@jesseleighbrackstone8365

Ай бұрын

@@nathand4500 Says who?

If you have to ask for equality, you’re not equal.

@horacio373

Жыл бұрын

They want to enter a highly competitive ground but cannot accept when they cannot achieve as much as others

@johnd1047

Жыл бұрын

You’re using the phrase “have to” awfully carelessly here.

Mr. Jordan! …curious what your opinion would be on the outcome if you took the the conversation a little deeper…should we be concerned about equality for men as well , what that might look like…or would it even be possible to compromise such an important role that men bring value to in society and the world…?

I play tennis. For years women fought for equal prize money for men and women. In the finals men play best of 5 sets and women best of 3. The longest final in Wimbledon was 4.95hrs for men, and 2.75hrs for women. It’s not hard to see, that this is NOT ‘equal work’ so, why should there be equal pay? Or should this be yet another ‘exception’, that women are built differently from men and so should be treated differently? If you’re a woman, ask yourself, if you pay full price for a cup of coffee, and the man next to you pay the same and gets 2 cups, just by being a man, would you still think it’s alright?🤔

@shubhamketkale9383

8 ай бұрын

Its a thing which nature has given to women but sadly todays feminists refuse to accept it.... 😂

@Elizabeth78946

6 ай бұрын

​@@sarsan2698 Whoever wants to work hard is willing to do so.

@RockByTheRiver

13 күн бұрын

Don't try to turn this around with some twisted sports annalogy. This is about women who work just as hard as men, and have the same qualifications, but are still payed less. How would you feel if you were paid less, eventhough you worked just as hard, if not harder than others, just because of the way you were born? This is not about _sports_, again, it's about people who deliver the same results and value to a company, while unfairly being paid less.

True

This man is amazing!

speaking facts

@user-fu2sh8nr9b

Ай бұрын

Part of them

Equal OPPORTUNITY

Facts

This is common sense! Omg it’s so basic! 🤦🏽‍♀️arrgh! 😣 This equal pay debate shouldn’t even exist!

What about nurses?

He speaks facts

@user-fu2sh8nr9b

Ай бұрын

Just part of them.

Do somebody know the song tha plays in the background??

"i looked at the deata"💀

Also a hangover from paying men more, because men supported a family. Back in the day a man supported his wife, parents and many kids. Women worked infrequently, or volunteered. But men put food on the table for everyone in his family. Not enough gratitude and appreciation for our Men and boys.

@user-fu2sh8nr9b

Ай бұрын

And never took advantage of this position, right? What a fairy tale!

This is why CNN never shows data when it comes to this subjects

I understand that but the pay is also not equal for the exact same job

Men work longer hours because there's a woman supporting his career and watching his children.

@horacio373

Жыл бұрын

That can be true in some cases, that's something to be grateful for. now if we try to understand what's going on, women are more likely to take care of their family because nature made them that way, more agreeable, more concerned about the wellbeing of others, more effective on multitasking jobs. also some other things to take account, until 60' there was no effective way to control family planning, women sexually active had to sacrifice a lot to rise their child's whenever the nature calls for it. Fortunately things changed, and instead of enjoying this time in human history with the most opportunities ever, feminism is lost in this nonsense struggle. To much potential and creativity being unnecessary lost

@humorm4152

Жыл бұрын

And the money go straight to them and that's a nice set up. Let's be real here a single man can do more work than women be it dangerous or involving moving out of places alone, alot of the time.

I'm in complete agreement... to a point. What I'm more interested in are pay differences between men and women in identical jobs, within the same companies.

@jodypixley6683

Жыл бұрын

What kind of jobs are you referring to ? I'm honestly asking ! I know in factory's there are no difference in pay between men and women but there is a difference sometimes in pay of certian jobs that require special training , I don't think Walmart or fast food or painters or computers, or nurses , or teachers , so is the difference in pay in politics ,lawyers , judges, or government? Just really curious to know ! Or should I ask Google ? But I find asking a computer that is loaded with info that a human put in might and many times not correct ,just someone's mind set of how they think , or numbers from someone's study and we all know how wrong mist if those study's are .

@syahrazad

Жыл бұрын

no, it's based on performance not gender

@peterfitzpatrick7032

Жыл бұрын

You know thats illegal, right ? 🙄

I always thought the argument is that women get paid less for doing the same job

@GrubKiller436

Жыл бұрын

There are all sorts of reasons why an individual can be paid more than their coworkers. It is the same job, but let's say you frequently do overtime and your peers never do overtime. If you do that, you can get paid more per hour. Same job, different effort put in. Or let's say you've been in the company for almost 10 years and your coworker has been there for 1 year. You're more experienced and skilled, you've been loyal to the company, and you've done extra for the company. You are going to get paid more per hour. Same job, different competence. It doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman. You can literally be the person who gets paid more, even as the woman, than all the men at the company. Because it comes down to the individual. Earn your reputation, earn your salary. The statistic modern feminists use is for manipulation. There's no practical utility in that at all. It's a long whine.

@singingwindrider9881

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, the premise is ALL things being equal & only difference is gender, then pay should be equal.

@singingwindrider9881

Жыл бұрын

@@GrubKiller436 You're confusing the issue. Please see my other statement. Having been in the workforce 50 yrs, I've seen many many instances of pay inequality based solely on gender.

@GrubKiller436

Жыл бұрын

@@singingwindrider9881 Where does the wage gap say that it analyzes jobs where all workers are equal in every regard? Nowhere.

His definition of equality for men and women is having an equal proportion of both work across every single job. That’s what he’s arguing against, and obviously nobody believes that. What equality really means is equal pay for men and women working the SAME job, which in some cases doesn’t occur even today. Stop changing the subject and come up with a better argument

I feel like it's not even a thing to be smart anymore ...it's more of a thing to keep everyone else from becoming dumber.

It’s a political perspective based on men and women are different; hence they have to be treated differently because data says they are unequal. But all that is irrelevant to the point of equality. Equality is about equal opportunity not about making men exactly the same as women. They are equal in terms of what they deserve from society or what their rights are or protections are. So if a woman wants to be a bricklayer she shd be able to and not stopped just because she is a woman; if she doesn’t want to that doesn’t mean equality is failing or not realistic or whatever. As long as there are opportunities or even encouragements(because they have been discouraged for long and with stats like this) for women to lay bricks equality is working. So yes it comes from the political perspective not scientific data, data is being used/misused to hide a political opinion that men are different from women hence deserve to be given different opportunities or forced into gender roles. Well if you claim extremely violent people are male then you can’t use that to say men are violent women aren’t. Because there are violent women and non violent men. That’s the whole point of equal opportunity. That you can’t separate people into 2 distinct groups because the genders aren’t mutually exclusive so treat them equally Eg same rules on violence. When you say equal you mean identical or clone. Yet the meaning of equality is equal opportunity for all people because there are all full citizens with brains and desires and hopes. They shdnt be stopped just because of gender. So basically you are forcing a definition of equality that you created not the actual meaning of equality. If there is overlap it means they shd be treated equal because you may assume a woman is not aggressive when they are or assume a man is aggressive when he isn’t. So just treat them all as if they are aggressive or not aggressive. Same way not all men are equal as in identical clones but they still enjoy equality in terms of treatment such as demanded in the Declaration of Independence. It’s a political statement because it’s like saying , using the US as an example, all men are equal and have right to pursue life, liberty, and happiness. But at the same time hold slaves as unequal or 1/3 of a person. It shows the idea of equality is political as in who deserves what is often based on the opinion of the person as to what someone deserve and misusing data to project that opinion. You believe women are different hence can’t be equal. But black men and white men are different , or even white men aren’t all identical either some are more violent than other using the aggression example or short versus tall white guys. You can even draw statistics about what those people can extremely do over other Eg tall white guys score better at basketball than short white guys. That’s no excuse to say no short white guys. they shd all have equal opportunity to try out not restrictions and let them decide to play or not to play, to prove or not to prove. That’s the real meaning of equality not this identical ish.

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When women were told they had to do the same jobs of men they acted like victims if abuse ! I want to see the numbers if women that have applied for these brick laying jobs ,roofing ,building bridges , digging ,chopping cement , ect. , If you can be a machanic ,a executive ,a docter, a nurse ,a scientist , a teacher , painter of buildings and cars , an inventor , a computer and electronics wiz ,That's awesome and we know there are both men and women in many of the same jobs , but the ones risking life , jobs brutal to the wear and tear of the body , extreme ho or cold , risk from chemicals ect. Are not hob women want ! So I don't understand why the always saying they not equal , men don't get tax breaks , men don't get to claim child support or alimony , men don't get free house ,food, electric ,medical unless they disabled! Men are forced to be the givers to women , even if they have a job wipeing butt at a nurseing home so what's the deal with all these lazy women that will not work unless maybe it's the job of their choice and the hours they chose ect. I'm 61 female still working and they still takeing my taxes for lazy self intitled women that have one child and won't work and have pretty teeth that I help pay for and I get nothing free because I work ! Women don't think about survival they think of intitlement becouse they change a diaper 🙄

@AndreaDingbatt

Жыл бұрын

I'm a Woman with a Womb and I am a Mechanic!! Also been a Farm Worker and worked with dangerous animals as a Veterinarian... The Divide and Conquer Mandate is being Pushed out onto All of Us. Both Genders....

@AndreaDingbatt

Жыл бұрын

Erm, "Lazy Women"?! I suspect that you have been stupid enough to get a gold digger allowed into Your life. Hence your Bitterness.... I'm in Agreement with Dr JP, but you seem to have a personal Grudge.

While these are all factual statements, This is not what the debate is about. he's completely missing the point, along with many people in this comment section. It is about men and women who work the same job, have the same education and generally bring the same value to a company, while still getting paid less.

When a person is working harder and secrefice more then its ok to pay more, why is it has to be men vs women? If they do the same job they need to be paid equal. Its not about feminism its about respecting the differences and giving equal chances to people. If a man is working at the office all day and the women working at home all day, they are different yet equal. If a women secrefice more then her husband she deserves more, and vice versa. Each needs to be measured by its genders standarts. Whats so hard to grasp? I guess some modern coltures need to figure out what it means to be a man/women. Jentelmenism is being respectfull it isnt in any way suggest that the women is lower in the value from men.

@Tesoro1996

Жыл бұрын

Well, you forgot where the salaries come from. Yes, from the employer. And the employer sees money first. And usually, men do more work in 8 hours than women, just because of their physique, stamina, constitution etc. I'm not saying there aren't jobs that women are more efficient at, I'm just saying in most jobs, men can bring in more money for the company. So basically, if there are two companies, one with only men and second with only women and they pay the same salaries, the one with men makes more money. So it only makes sense that men make more money, as they bring in more value (not meaning this hatefully toward women).

@AndreaDingbatt

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you 💯!! Great Comment 👍 Thank You for sharing your thoughts about this!! Namaste 🙏 Andrea and Critters. ...XxX...

@katherineklevenow1808

Жыл бұрын

Please learn to spell. I'm not sure what you're saying because of the misspellings.

@anoncannon

Жыл бұрын

@@Tesoro1996 I think that if the company can get away with paying someone less, they would, no matter who it is.

@Tesoro1996

Жыл бұрын

@@anoncannon well, yes. I'm just saying, the company will pay more to whoever brings in more value.

At this point, if you're not ready for Peterson & aren't ready to answer these points, you deserve to be eaten for lunch.

How about a woman who works shoulder to shoulder with man doing the same job under the same job description and she gets paid less. Huh?? Answer that question and only that question. Why are you so compelled to bury your interviewer in dialogue. You annoy me 50% of the time Jordan Peterson

@jodyhenry4925

Жыл бұрын

They don’t. Men and women working side-by-side make the same amount of money. Ask anyone working in a mill or a factory. You’re a fool

@farrekarimi1980

Жыл бұрын

If that were the case. That women get paid less for THE EXACT SAME JOB as a men why would any employer hire men? Why? You can just hire women and pay less? Why would you hire a man who is more expensive?

@abhay6576

Жыл бұрын

Idk where you get that crap but companies equal to both of them

However women who are working in stem areas are not equally paid, nor promoted.

@sn0w2001

Жыл бұрын

You're right, they're paid more and promoted more often

@johnd1047

Жыл бұрын

This is precisely untrue.

@johnd1047

Жыл бұрын

No this is anti-truth!😂

The comparisons should be between the same business areas, the same work experience and between the same tasks to perform. Additionally there is also an issue with child care, not enough newborn babies in Western society which is getting older and older. "White people culture" is dying because of that in globalisation era. These are the reasons why feminists want financial equality. European Union supports that policy. I lost my whole respect for that guy and all man that supports him. He shouldn't even be university professor with his analytic skills.

Labor has two meanings. The score is 1 : 1

@the_original_bug_god

Жыл бұрын

You might have had a point in the 1800s but modem women only have 1.5 kids in their lifetime. Yeah, a collective couple days vs 40-50 years

"look, the only reason why slaves in the American South had it so bad is because they weren't working as plantation owners." -Jordan Peterson, probably

@saracroft2589

Жыл бұрын

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@borednow

Жыл бұрын

Great example of how he is trying to make a point here! It's funny and sad at the same time...

@saracroft2589

Жыл бұрын

"that is only because plantation owners had better intelligence, ambitions, work attitude than their slaves"

@agboolaalli7124

Жыл бұрын

What substance are you on?

@3dartxsi

Жыл бұрын

@@agboolaalli7124 apple cider

The more you try to make people similar the more their differences will come out.

My woman ishhhaardworking all right?? But she won't sweat!!! She won't bleed!!! I Will!! I' Do anything legal as soon as I have my level and status of life intact!!! 😁

I got your point, but what about situations when both males and females do the same job. When females do more in that workplace than males, but companies still pay males more . I mean I understand if they do more than you and receive more, that's fair. I am not competing for overwork, but I hope when two employees do the same job, the gender will not the main factor to decide on salary.

What A Chad.

Job choice is one of the largest factors as to why the average man gets paid more than the average woman. Many people mistakingly claim that women get paid 70 cents to the dollar for the same job, when in fact, this stat does not consider any factors such as job, experience, hours, or weekends or even other factors that shouldn't count but likely still do in many places(But not all, fortunately) such as ethnicity, race, and nation of origin(for example immigrants from countries like the UK make upwards of 5x as much as immigrants from countries like Iran). There are some factors for which women actually get paid MORE than men. Many of the factors are regional too. Such as the difference in pay between someone working weekends and someone working regular week days is likely to vary by company, town, county, city, state, and region. It doesn't consider cost of living. It doesn't consider age. It doesn't consider anything. It is a blind average that only considers sex and nothing else. It does not consider that many women still opt to become stay-home mothers. It does not consider maternity and paternity leave. Fun fact: college educated women make more than their male counterparts before they reach their 30's. After they reach their 30's the men tend to make more. This is because college-educates people tend to have children in their 30's and many women work less or stop working entirely to help care for their young children. The gender pay gap isn't due to businesses not paying women properly any more. It's due to society's beliefs as to what work is "manly" or "womanly" or what the proper roles of husbands/fathers and wives/mothers are, and how these beliefs affect an individual's own career choices and decision-making. If you want to talk a boutique a pay gap, talk about the race or nationality gaps. Those are far bigger and more concerning - far more likely to actually hold some water.

I quite dont understand how somebody decides that one job is more important than the other. Is building a bridge more important and difficult than taking care of dying people? How do you compare it? Everything in bricklaying is adapted to male muscles, so why should women do it? Why women did not invent anything like that and did not adapt it to their needs and abilies? Since when they are allowed to study?

I work as a driver mate and we deliver fridge freezer and washing machines tumble dryers etc up and down stairs flats I’ve never seen a women doing the job why is that ?? 😅

@user-fu2sh8nr9b

Ай бұрын

So, you are very important person and deserve much much money!

When people do the Same Jobs

ENOUGH WITH THE F..ING BRICKLAYERS. this guy is nuts!

@oddozzi1021

Жыл бұрын

Really. A woman has the ability to think rationally when not propped up on men believing that they are their mothers or sisters. Men generally think your pure. Its a mistake every man makes. Your conniving clever deseatfull and very good at telling lies and that IS because you are weaker! You' learned how to handel the macho. But you've sealed your fate. Other cultures have men. And they are going to defeat the ones you've made easy. Good job

I wonder what part the complete disregard for men’s mental health plays into the violence. What part being raised by single mothers plays since so many of the men in jail were raised by women. Only a man can teach a man to be a man and a man without guidance is dangerous.

Give me an apron any day. I'll cook and clean, tend to the children. Hot meal on the table, I'll run your bath. I'm superb at finances as well. Balance the budget, clip coupons, find bargains. But couldnt buy a pack on gum if I wanted. He gets a new truck and I have to ask for $ for the kids school supplies from the dollar store. I have to ask my husband for gas to take the kids to the doctors in my piece of crap that doesnt have door handles so the kids have to crawl from the front. So then i could imagine you can see why a woman would want to work. There goes your hot meal, there goes your bargain shopper. She didnt have time to scrub the floor, She didnt have time to do Sally's hair or help Jr. With his project. What do you do?? Instead of everyone seething on both ends. Let's find a solution. I cant see it ever going back to the way it was in the 1950s but some of us don't mind the traditional roles. Someones gotta raise the children. I've often wondered whose watching all these peoples kids?? I have to bring my kids to the gyno with me. Never quite understood the dynamics that allow for 2 working parents in the home. What about those countries that give living allowances despite income? Then the wife wouldnt have to be treated like an infant and she buy a pack of gum if she wanted to? More and more women are choosing not to marry and/or be mothers. In droves (I forsee a future major problem with birth rates...hello handmaids lol )Maybe it should have been more appealing? A person doesnt generally keep doing something without benefit. More men have these traditional "men" jobs and get paid more....now. Give it time. It cant always be that way because it's not the direction were headed in.

@singingwindrider9881

Жыл бұрын

But men don't want to see the bigger picture. I don't think most are capable. Women are by nature, nurturers. Women only left traditional roles because of abusive spouses, as you stated, but men don't want to take responsibility. Same story since Adam...abdicate responsibility, blame the woman & God. No wonder women don't want to marry. Men, on the whole, generally don't appreciate what women do...at home or the workplace. Actually, if I wasn't Christian, I'd be cool with society hurtling towards the Amazonian (mythical society) type culture (which really we aren't far from) where men are only kept for breeding purposes & some heavy manual labor stuff. But with robotics, heavy equipment & artificial insemination, won't need many much longer. 😆 Wonder if men have thought about this? Is this why they're so scared of & oppress women so badly? 🤔 Wouldn't society be better if men would just treat women as Jesus did? With respect, love, etc. Like the Bible states? To love & cherish their wives. But they didn't. So women had to leave traditional roles & enter the workforce. All that said. Who's to blame, men or women? "We wrestle not against flesh & blood but against EVIL spirits". Sin is to blame. Jesus is the answer. Let's keep trying, in love, to find solutions where everyone wins. Keep moving forward.

@shay4261

Жыл бұрын

1) learn to use separate paragraphs that was horrendous to read 2) if my mum could raise me and my sister by herself then why is 2 working parents bad all of a sudden

The thing is though, more and more women are going into STEM careers. More and more women are going into occupations that are generally seen as masculine, such as doctors, pilots, and car mechanics than ever before in history. The social and cultural paradigm is shifting, and as a result, the gender pay gap is shrinking. It's slow moving though, due to culture being a slow beast to change. What also contributes to the gender pay gap shrinking is the man's role in child-care becoming more prevalent. More and more fathers are taking the time to be present in their child's lives than ever before, taking the load off mothers and allowing them to work more hours. Working more hours allows women to get better at the job, take on more long-term projects, and get promoted quicker, which means they get paid more. The world is healing from patriarchal practices of the past (which in my opinion don't exist anymore, which is why we're seeing these changes in the first place), and more and more jobs are becoming less polarized than ever before. It is slow change, but change, nonetheless. What I keep seeing from arguments about the gender pay gap is that they seem to want to make it about something inherent in women that causes the gap. Women inherently stray away from careers in STEM (which is becoming less and less true as the years go by), women inherently work less hours, or are lazier and don't work as hard as men. I will admit, women may very well be more inclined toward humanism careers (I do believe there will still be a bit of polarization in regard to this, but it will be much much less in the future), but the other two reasonings are blatantly untrue. The immediacy that people have grown so accustomed to is telling here, in that because we do not see immediate significant change right now, that it somehow isn't happening at all. It is, we just need to be patient. The gender pay gap will shrink to near nothing in the future. We just need to bide our time for it to happen.

Simplistic analysis are made for elections and manipulations.

No. What's simplistic is your strawmanning of the argument. We're very well aware that, yes, an engineer will make more money than a daycare assistant. The argument is, rather, that the pay of similarly situated men and women is not equal. Key words: similarly situated.

This is very disturbing to be honest Why? Because some women make 10x more than men and also some men make 10x more than women it’s not about gender it’s about you if you don’t make 10x average income it’s on you not on you’re gender

Damn I hate to agree but facts are facts 😂

@user-fu2sh8nr9b

Ай бұрын

Just part of facts is just part of facts.

Define women. Nowadays men identify themselves as women.

To all the people who believe that women get paid less than men here’s a question for you should a woman who works 30 hours a week get paid the same as a man in the same job working 40 hours a week ? Because this is what you’re advocating for without real using it

Lets start 2 manufacturing plants One with 200 men Other with 200 women. Whose business do you think will be the most productive. Ensure the women's right of 6 months maternal leaves, and let them leave on time

"it's a very simplistic analysis" that's like the nicest way to say "how dumb can you be to not know this?" 😅

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Theres not enough female workers in the mining, roofing, and ilogging ndustries. We should really push for women to work these kind jobs, its a shame how often women are left out of those jobs

@user-fu2sh8nr9b

Ай бұрын

Because they were invented by men for men. Maybe if women were allowed to study earlier, they would invent them so that these industries suit to them. How do you decide which job is more important?

The bricklayer argument is not that strong though) Firstly, how many men work as bricklayers in US in 2023? Secondly, what about all the men who never were and never will be bricklayers? Is it better for them to stay home and watch the children? Or maybe they deserve a smaller salary?What about men who are not aggressive at all? Should they be working and trying to reach their professional goals? I mean why bother, right? Women's contribution to society is big enough so let them work in piece and get paid. Just let people be for God's sake. There are so many problems to talk about. I believe women being human beings and living their lives isn't one of them.

My mom makes $900,000 per year…

Wrong. You have to compare same job and see women get paid less to do same time

Yes woman should get paid the same. Now not everyone will make what doctor make it depends on the job teacher man teacher woman yes it depends on how many years guy 15 year woman 5 year no

He is talking about the differences between men and women at a macrolevel but at the microlevel women in the same field with the same level of education and similar experience will still get paid about 10% less than men. Also women are less likely to even get into the male dominated fields because the men that present and doing the job interviews will pick men over women in most cases. Those men might even really believe they are feminists or believe that women should have equal rigts and pay and yet they will still choose a man over a woman because they will feel the man will be a better fit in their group/department/team/culture.

@niox1920

Жыл бұрын

Even at the microlevel you still aren't going deep enough, hours worked compared to their male counterparts, the percentage of women that are going for raises compared to their male counterparts, amount of time taken off, as well as just the amount of work they are doing in the same amount of time. Those account for a large majority of the pay gap even in the same field. There's still an unexplained pay gap that's around 2-3% which may or may not be caused by sexism, we don't have all of the data for that. I don't doubt there are companies being sexist towards women but those would be the exception and not the rule

@abhay6576

Жыл бұрын

Ohh if so why would they even hire men if they can just hire women and pay 10 % less??

I think the idea is that men are being paid more for doing exactly the same role

@farrekarimi1980

Жыл бұрын

If that were the case. That women get paid less for THE EXACT SAME JOB as a men why would any employer hire men? Why? You can just hire women and pay less? Why would you hire a man who is more expensive?

@SaturdayAfternoonTea

Жыл бұрын

@@farrekarimi1980 it’s not a black and white issue, or one that can be addressed adequately in this context; and with respect, that includes in the short format that Mr Peterson has used here.

@user-fu2sh8nr9b

Ай бұрын

​@@farrekarimi1980because women will likely take care for childern for some time, but should be penalised for that?

Feminism, please protest for equal pay for male models then 🤣

I take your sheetrock and I call you with pregnancy, childbirth, child rearing as well as caring for the male pampered privileged sensitive 🥺 soul

I can not speak for the US but here in Africa men are traditionally paid more in the same job as their female counterparts. It is gender based here.

@kgalanet

Жыл бұрын

Which Africa ? Please specify the country

@Lazlum

Жыл бұрын

Funny how feminists are talking about patriarchal oppression in democratic western countries but in Muslim countries when their life is inferior to an animal's they dont do shit