As a retired engineer myself, I have often advised young engineers that if you think too far outside the box, you will usually quickly find out why the box was there!

@PeterSigurdson

27 күн бұрын

No one person is smarter than everyone together, and the boxes were designed by group consensus experience

@bas4241

27 күн бұрын

@@PeterSigurdsonAgreed. In many cases, the “box” represents decades of empirical data, actual experience, and trial and error. The “Chesterton’s Fence” lesson is to never remove a boundary without fully understanding the primary and secondary repercussions.

@PeterSigurdson

27 күн бұрын

@@bas4241 A corollary might be: Never discount the experiences of people who make systems like the SUD work without killing anyone.

@whoever6458

23 күн бұрын

Yes. Don't find out through experience that the box was actually a structural box, literally there for necessary support.

@TheFakeyCakeMaker

22 күн бұрын

Great thread! Very useful info, thanks Bas and Peter.

Cause of death: arrogance

@Riders241

Ай бұрын

Contributing factor: stupidity

@shopsshire9282

Ай бұрын

The overarching sin for stupidity and arrogance is pride just pure plain old pride.

@gpmo

Ай бұрын

And GREED 💵💵💵

@marilynschmidt6400

Ай бұрын

Egotistical

@jrpoon

Ай бұрын

Ignorant

The Titanic isn't a tourist attraction, it's a grave.

@angelacook3680

Ай бұрын

I couldn't agree with you more.

@charlesfaure1189

Ай бұрын

Apparently not. It's presently both. Though I'm not sure it's really a grave if the victims are all long gone into the entrails of sea creatures. Perhaps an enormous area of Europe, for instance, should be fenced off because soldiers got churned into salsa there and were never recovered. We could start with the entire Somme Valley, maybe?

@MarinCipollina

Ай бұрын

@@charlesfaure1189 Much of the WW I battle zone areas, around the trench lines and 'no mans land' areas are classified as 'Red zones'.. No human entry is allowed. Too much unexploded ordnance, including unexploded gas shells.. There's one group dedicated to recovery of munitions, but several of those die each year in recovery efforts as well. The old ordnance is very unstable.

@brentcarnelli5664

28 күн бұрын

My brother "visited " the Trade Center after 9/11 , with his kids, saying it was a history lesson. I said it's a sacred gravesite and you should be ashamed of yourself.

@lostcat9lives322

19 күн бұрын

Graves are tourist attractions. That's their function.

This wasn't about exploration, it was about greed. Stockton Rush built a sub as cheap as he can while charging people a fortune.

@sarah29880

Ай бұрын

💯 ego case as well.

In terms of Stockton Rush, James Cameron said it best. “I think that if you’re building a hull where you need to have sensors to tell you that it’s failing, in the process of failing, you have no business designing subs”. Spot on.

@mattderouen2323

Ай бұрын

Couldn't be worded better! He shouldn't have been able to be anywhere near any submersible, especially being able to design one! It takes stuff like this to happen for things to hopefully change

@user-bd3zy6wo7l

Ай бұрын

James is talking after is it happened

@user-bd3zy6wo7l

Ай бұрын

Smear job on rush. Ambush journalism by glorified KZreadrs.

@xtina6569

Ай бұрын

@user-bd3zy6wo7l he was warned multiple times and refused to listen and fired those who tried to warn him

@harrythompson6977

Ай бұрын

when was this,think after the fact?

Stockton Rush will certainly get his wish of being remembered for his rule breaking.

@austx290

Ай бұрын

Sad but true. Sigh

@deltawarrior2

Ай бұрын

Nah, this was absolute sabotage by canadian and biden garbage people

@SofaKingShit

Ай бұрын

I would never be invited into such a confined space as I would rather be remembered for wind breaking. Too soon?

@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg

Ай бұрын

Rush?...... That's A GIVEAWAY.

@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg

Ай бұрын

​@@SofaKingShitWind Surfing?. Follow Throughs?. Fecal Treacle?.

I just can't wrap my head around the fact that as a lowly welder my first thought at seeing the titanium ring epoxied onto the carbon fiber tube was dissimilar materials at extreme pressure and temperature contracting/expanding at different rates creating weak points that tons of seawater WILL find a way to get through.

@whoever6458

23 күн бұрын

Bet you're a great welder! Right on!

@jasonhamar9951

6 күн бұрын

I’m amazed the epoxy glue joint lasted for 13 trips down to almost 4km below - that’s a win for epoxy to my mind,incredible

@malinstella6965

6 күн бұрын

Remember, YOU ARE NOT A LOWLY WELDER.

I'm not an engineer, I'm college educated. But even in the mid 90s, when were hardcore mountain biking - when we bought bikes we knew that carbon fiber options were out there - so was aluminum and steel. And the difference between each was well known. Carbon fiber, yep, it's light, and can be strong, but it stresses over time. And those mountain bike frames will crack at some point. I knew that at age 20. This guy had way more education on this stuff than I did, and still decided, let's do it. Just unreal. Preventable and Rush's company and widow should be holding the bag on this one.

@davidjazay9248

Ай бұрын

Exactly, this has been common knowledge for decades.

@zippersocks

24 күн бұрын

For reals. And just to add on to what you said, carbon fiber has excellent tensile capabilities (aircraft, wind turbines, …), but wasn’t applied/designed for compression. I think that was the biggest red flag for me. Layering threads to keep pressure out instead of in.

@higgsbonbon

13 күн бұрын

​@@zippersocksI suppose one could take a tensegrity approach but the engineering required for such a system would likely be unreasonably complex for these purposes.

One rule you can not break : Physics

@clarelwc2849

Ай бұрын

Exactly

@irishhoopers6899

Ай бұрын

Well you can try. But then physics will break you.

@dompit9535

Ай бұрын

Don't be so sure.

@SW2799

Ай бұрын

in a way, you’re not exactly correct. Stockton Rush was a very intelligent man, but also very self-absorbed with his own ego, And ultimately very, very selfish.

@frankthetank8050

Ай бұрын

Rush looked always like a guy who would charge you 250 grand to risk your life in a plastic death trap, steered by a discount Alibaba Xbox controller. Physics, however saw right through his con 😢💀

The fact that you had to be BOLTED into the thing with no means of escape without outside help would stop me

@ericeandco

Ай бұрын

When you’re that deep in the ocean you can’t just exit anyway. But it’s indicative of cost cutting for sure.

@runriot-ke3cv

Ай бұрын

@@ericeandco Yeah, but, what if you manage to an emergency float to surface but need to get out right away? (say fire/heat)

@anjou6497

Ай бұрын

Yes, and surely any sub like that should have a brightly painted top, red, yellow, or orange, to be easily spotted by search n rescue choppers in case it surfaced...??

@philiplyons8388

Ай бұрын

💯

@AwesomeFish12

Ай бұрын

Exactly, an air supply/quality issue could require the hatch be opened IMMEDIATELY, not 30 minutes too late. A tiny electrical fire would mean people breathing toxic smoke for hours, the fact that the flooring was highly flammable doesn't help...

“You’re remembered for the rules you break” and the LIVES YOU TAKE. He’ll be remembered as an overconfident failure that cost innocent people their lives. Glorious.

The crack counter floored me. I couldn't imagine shelling out a quarter of a million bucks to watch fate catch up with hubris, let alone bring my own child with me.

I've worked for finance CEOs like this. Pure psycopathic arrogance. If Stockton had not died on that expedition, he would not be remorseful.

@bobgillis1137

Ай бұрын

Indeed. I noted the outcome of that Virgin Air billionaire upon his test pilot crashing the spacecraft. His first concern and sympathy was to his space program, not to the doomed pilot.

@M_SC

27 күн бұрын

Narcissism is correlated with CEOs

@NondescriptMammal

27 күн бұрын

@@M_SC Likewise with psychopathy.

@patludwig1971

26 күн бұрын

And he would still be taking idiots' money.

@candicraveingcloude2822

26 күн бұрын

@@M_SC You have to be that way to be a CEO. It's a system that requires that you only care about yourself, whileonly caring about others if you can push them down.

Rush built a mousetrap for rich people.

@ShawnDarlinghalibutfisherman

Ай бұрын

Mouse trap more like death trap.

@MakerInMotion

Ай бұрын

The scientists on every dive didn't pay the $250K fee. Paul-Henri Nargeolet wasn't rich.

@freespeech.7254

Ай бұрын

Rich and dumb😂

@Jordizzan

Ай бұрын

@@MakerInMotionand that has what to do with anything?

@MakerInMotion

Ай бұрын

@@Jordizzan I think everyone celebrating that rich people died should know there was a regular guy among them.

He was reckless with other people's lives and that is unforgivable

If it weren't so tragic, it would be laughable that anybody thought for a moment that a rescue mission could have had any chance of success in this situation.

Stockton Rush will be remembered for his stupidity, horrific death and the four souls he took with him.

@AS-jx3ki

Ай бұрын

Exactly

@KajusRoss-tl5no

Ай бұрын

Respect mr Rush ...

@benediktmayr1701

Ай бұрын

How? After that? ​@@KajusRoss-tl5no

@christinamcilwaine350

Ай бұрын

​​@@KajusRoss-tl5no he doesn't deserve respect he was reckless and stupid

@MarinCipollina

Ай бұрын

@@KajusRoss-tl5no None for him. None.

I express a lot of grief only for 19 year old, Suleman who was reluctant to join his dad :(

@bobgillis1137

Ай бұрын

Indeed. Imagine how bad his Dad must have felt when their fate became evident.

@anjou6497

Ай бұрын

​@@bobgillis1137 Yes i'm haunted by that. Apparently it hurtled downward in the last minutes.

@muslimcel4581

Ай бұрын

Ok Jhalesh😂

@johnelbrus2651

Ай бұрын

😢

@pennygreenler4351

Ай бұрын

the only smart person was the kid who new better!!

If Rush had gone down there by himself and died, it would have quickly been forgotten I reckon. The fact he took people down there with him means that he will be remembered forever.

the fact that its called Oceangate before the controversy lol

The "Unthinkable" now lies next to the "Unsinkable".

@kevink2986

Ай бұрын

It blew up into a million pieces. It’s remains are floating in the ocean who knows where…

@M-yb1cc

Ай бұрын

@@kevink2986 True, but a few pieces might be next to it

@arupsan

28 күн бұрын

Sea animals had eaten all those million flesh pieces … except junks..

@paule6945

26 күн бұрын

Absolutely great reply, nothing else needs saying 👍

@michaelelizabethcuaz9142

25 күн бұрын

Clever yet true!🇺🇸🇫🇷🇺🇸

Port Authority of St. John's Harbour sure brought the hammer down on a camera crew doing an interview on the bay while turning a blind eye to a non-certified, unregulated, multi-million dollar disaster in the making. Excellent documentary by the CBC's Fifth Estate. Well done as per usual.

@nickv4073

Ай бұрын

What "blind eye"? The Port has absolutely no responsibility, no authority or control over what happens in International waters. None! Zero! The Titanic rests in international waters and Stockton took advantage of that fact.

@woodsplitter3274

Ай бұрын

Good point. I have always liked CBC. Thorough and professional.

@stephaniekaye235

Ай бұрын

HAHH 🎉 WE don't get involved with expeditions that come certified with all the bells & whistles :\ its not like we own the graveside of the Titanic but we are the closest to it that's why everyone that's gonna go there sets out from our harbor. No other way to get to her! ❤

@waner17

Ай бұрын

@@stephaniekaye235odd thing to be prideful of.

@Bl0ckHe1d

Ай бұрын

No hi-viz vest and / or safety helmet

@17:36 When the reporter asks about how he didnt know he was the adviser for ocean gate. The look he gives him is priceless.

@arseface2k934

6 күн бұрын

he's a very bad liar lol

@SBT300

5 күн бұрын

​@@arseface2k934Exactly!

@mystica7284

3 күн бұрын

​@@arseface2k934 noticed it too. his hands and expression 😂

That waiver for the Titan that the host described at 17:53 is insane! I don’t understand how anyone in their right mind would want to go anywhere near the damned thing. I think that Rush was a master salesman who manipulated and charmed the passengers, giving them a false sense of security. The man could sweet-talk and manipulate any situation into being safe!

@ZekromReshiramVolt

Ай бұрын

Well not really

Finally, a quality OceanGate documentary offering new footage and journalism. Well done

@Crashed131963

Ай бұрын

The Fifth Estate only does pro documentaries and has been around since the 1970s.

@CSDonohue11

Ай бұрын

Something extra was going on with this situation Not just what the public has been sold

@MargaritaMagdalena

Ай бұрын

There's an animation that shows what happened to their bodies. It looks scary.

@dp7047

Ай бұрын

​@@MargaritaMagdalenaWhere? KZread?

@marilynevans8436

Ай бұрын

​@@CSDonohue11😮?

Considering how DIY that sub looked, you couldn't pay me to get in that thing. The glorification of risk, the contempt for certification and peer opinion, the overconfidence/arrogance. This has a Darwin Award element to it.

@mikoto7693

Ай бұрын

Same here, one look at the DIY look of the submersible and I would refuse to have anything to do with it. I looked at the bits and piping on the outside and immediately recognised entanglement risk. But the other one was the requirement to be bolted inside the submersible with no possible way to get out was a dealbreaker for me. I have a special fear of being trapped inside a small space. The thought of suffering an engine and communication failure, bobbing on the surface yet on a timer of suffocating would be a nightmare.

@stephaniemurria5534

Ай бұрын

Right! I've seen better looking scrapbooks.

@kelrogers8480

Ай бұрын

And the poor kid that died? Can you find compassion for him - or his mother?

@fishdude666ify

Ай бұрын

Word. My thoughts exactly. I watched Challenger Deep after this happened and saw what went into that submersible and then looked back at this one and even though I already knew that the concept was fundamentally flawed, just looking at it made me feel ill. I can't help thinking about what those last 20 minutes must've been like, especially for the kid that didn't want to do it.

@Cara-39

Ай бұрын

Yeah everyone says that now, after the accident with full knowledge of the problems, but Rush spent years deliberately deceiving wealthy potential passengers with lies about safety, high tech collaborations with reputable industry members that never occurred and patents that didn't exist because without the millions of dollars their ticket prices generated, he couldn't build subs or keep his business running. These people were duped

Wow… the crack counter, the game controller, towing the sub to titanic… so much negligence it was destined to fail

You are remembered for the rules that you break. Also for the rules that break you.

It's impossible to stomach guys who refer to Stockton Rush as "smart" or "intelligent".

@hosmerhomeboy

Ай бұрын

One can be an intelligent failure. He's no different from the many dead on Everest, from skydiving, or even from extreme skiing. When have you ever trodden a new path?

@stung3848

Ай бұрын

You can be intelligent but lack logic and common sense, clearly you lack all 3

@brianjuelpedersen6389

Ай бұрын

Treading a “new” path by being arrogant and dumb, like dying on Everest (why would you join a list of at least 322 people who have already died on Everest) is not an intelligent failure. It is an extremely unintelligent failure.

@mirandahotspring4019

Ай бұрын

Don't confuse smart and intelligent with sensible. Rush was certainly intelligent, but was also a risk taker, a potentially dangerous combination.

@mirandahotspring4019

Ай бұрын

@@sweethomealamanda What's the difference between paying to go on a guided expedition to the top of Everest and paying for a trip to the bottom of the ocean?

"You will be remembered for the rules you break." Ohh how right he was.

@user-iv5gy3rc2b

Ай бұрын

"You will be remembered for the rules you break." ~ The Devil

@redfeather1450

Ай бұрын

Should have ended with; "And the lives you take."

@KajusRoss-tl5no

Ай бұрын

Respect mr Rush ...

"Here on the left you see the Titanic, now if youll look to your right you,ll see the last cruise like the one we are on here today"

Stockton quote about no deaths or injuries in “15 million passengers in private/commercial subs in last 35 years”. Was he including the Disneyland sub ride. That number seems incredible.

It's so absolutely mind-blowingly insane that this happened, pretty much some guy with his sardine tin just started going on tours to the deep sea, and no authorities tried to stop him.

@grimmertwin2148

Ай бұрын

Like people who vote Trump

@fredharvey2720

Ай бұрын

He was in international waters. No regulations. That's the point.

@HeleneLouise

Ай бұрын

@@grimmertwin2148 I suppose you voted Biden. Perfect.

@jeffwads

Ай бұрын

@@grimmertwin2148 your boy is doing wonderful.

@teschchr122

Ай бұрын

I believe the OP might be insulting sardine tins. As for the political commentary, can’t we be civil and start talking to each other?

When you meet a cocky CEO of any company it's best to walk away, or run away in this case.

@isay207

Ай бұрын

Boeing

@dirremoire

Ай бұрын

You're describing every CEO everywhere.

@RedCloudZion

Ай бұрын

​@@dirremoirelol

@bend8353

Ай бұрын

Why I will never own a tesla

@Communistsarentpeople

Ай бұрын

He did DEI before Boeing

Thanks Fifth Estate, there was a lack of Titan sub videos already we needed this

@pippa3150

27 күн бұрын

This is by far the best one out there.

@ScribStat

20 күн бұрын

@@pippa3150 Yeah, I keep watching this one over the others.

He knew how to avoid scrutiny and actively took steps to do so.

Watching that carbon fiber being rolled into a hull was like watching a horror movie where you scream "don't go into the basement!!!" At the TV...

@luisxvgenovese1736

26 күн бұрын

Perfect analogy

- Cylinder shaped rather than stronger sphere shape = wrong - Carbon fiber haul = wrong - Expired carbon fiber material used = wrong - Titanium ends glued to carbon fiber haul = wrong - Horizontal carbon fiber weave instead of stronger cross hatching pattern = wrong - Refusal to examine haul under expensive ultra sound stress testing = wrong. - Port window not rated for the Titanic depth = wrong ..Just to name a few glaring issues!

@theprinceofpie

Ай бұрын

You Are Remembered for the Rules You Break - Stockton Rush

@CoffeeCup1346

Ай бұрын

For sure he would have know all this though, right? I mean, he was an educated man with friends in the industry. He could look around and see the errors. Why proceed?

@willankhatter

Ай бұрын

He clearly knewhe was putting lives at risk, you can hear that Waiver mentioned the possibility of death many times

@nervousbabbs2769

Ай бұрын

@@willankhatter His greed took over. He made 250k per-person so a full titan is 1m250k that's a lot of dough for like a 5hr day. AND it did 14 dives so that's 17.5M

@AM-qp2wx

Ай бұрын

Haul? Do you mean HULL ?

"It was a race against time." Kind of hard to win when the race only lasts about a quarter of a second.

@exodiatheforbiddenone186

15 күн бұрын

More like only a few trillionths of a second if we're being generous

Titanic wreck message: Do not let hubris and overconfidence cause another disaster. Stockton: Okay I WILL let hubris and overcondidence cause another disaster. Titanic: No No No, I said do NOT . . . Stockton: All aboard!

My heart breaks for the petrified 19 yo kid that accompanied his Dad to please him. Even before this accident you couldn't give me all the $ in the world to be enclosed in a tiny dark vessel to visit a Graveyard at the bottom of a cold Ocean.

@Trigger200284

Ай бұрын

He wouldn't of been petrified. He was turned into a pink mist in about 1/100th of a second. He didn't even have time to blink or register pain. Not only that but he would of been cooked at a temperature hotter than the surface of the sun in that same time frame.

@bubonic7952

Ай бұрын

@@Trigger200284 Petrified also means terrified to the point of being unable to move but I'm going to throw out a guess here and say you already knew that and were making a joke at the expense of a dead kid. WTF is wrong with you?

@Trigger200284

Ай бұрын

@@bubonic7952 I wasn’t making fun of anyone? What is wrong with you interpreting what I said in completely the wrong context? I was literally telling her that he died before he had a chance to be scared. The sub imploded in a few milliseconds and he didn’t have time to even blink before it was over and done with. My god.

@tiffanyvarelli8834

Ай бұрын

@@Trigger200284he was scared when he got on the sub…. He said he didn’t want to go… he said it before the dive…. He was only going bc his dad wanted him to go, but he didn’t want to & he was scared…. I think the mother was supposed to go but she was heavy , I seen that somewhere

@chriskeith9801

Ай бұрын

Just goes to show to much money can buy you an early grave sometimes I thank god I don’t have that problem!!

Stockton Rush, the Darwin Award winner of 2023.

@subnormality.

Ай бұрын

Watch OceanGate add "Award Winning" to their website now.

@mailfraudvoter6620

Ай бұрын

There is no Darwin Award... this is getting as old as... one thing is like another thing. Got any originality??? 🤦‍♀️ Don’t ruin KZread with this trash comment.

@lamontjohnson5810

Ай бұрын

2023? More like of the 21nd century.

@esteemedmortal5917

Ай бұрын

Darwin Award Allstar

@mailfraudvoter6620

Ай бұрын

@@esteemedmortal5917 I said Darwin I’m sooooo smart 🤦‍♀️

Mark Kelley is one of the best investigative journalists.

"I believe you may get your headlines Mr Rush"

I know this might sound irrelevant but the mention of culture of safety being celebrated was also what affected Boeing's reputation in jeopardy the moment their employees started fearing for their jobs. Weather it's cars, planes, subs or even structures and buildings raising safety concerns should always be not just encouraged but treated as a duty.

@ArohaStill

Ай бұрын

It used to be! I remember in an aviation program I was enrolled in like literally in every single class, every single day, it was repeated for that we are in a 24 hours a day , 7 days a week, first and foremost a safety industry. Corporations cannot just be accountable to shareholders...the whole system needs reform and in the case of Boeing, the FAA blindly trusted them.

@brendadion7868

Ай бұрын

Your comment is ABSOLUTELY relevant! Sadly, the "culture" across all the industries you mention has always been profit before safety. Ironically, this would include the Titanic.

@loosilu

Ай бұрын

FUn fact: Stockton Rush used old carbon fiber rejected by Boeing.

"...and you'll see we control the sub with an old Atari 1200 joystick i found at the dump...."

@Colin12475

Ай бұрын

"and here we can see the super glue and wads of used chewing gum I used to fasten the ceiling fan, uh... I man, propeller to the submarine.

@truthsRsung

Ай бұрын

If you continue to soil Atari's name with your poor humor about Death, I will be forced to make fun of your mommy.

@emptiester

Ай бұрын

You know that atari controller still works. You can hammer nails with those things all day and still have it cut dead center everytime.

@crumb_of_nopeamine_plz

Ай бұрын

Ok, ok. Full apologies for dragging an epic piece of gaming equipment into the Ocean Gate dumpster fire. The Atari controller would probably survive on the sea floor at 10,000m.

@janeeyre1990

Ай бұрын

​@@crumb_of_nopeamine_plz, the Internet Council will meet to determine whether your apology merits forgiveness

"How many atmospheres can this ship handle?" "Well, it's a spaceship, so between zero and one."

That man actually talked about safety and breaking the rules in the same sentence. I'm speechless.

Someone had to pay for the "development" of this craft, hence the ticket cost. OceanGate should have to pay the bill for the rescue costs.

@user-bn7ws2gi2j

Ай бұрын

I thought there was no bodies to recover so how can you rescue nothing

@Erin-rg3dw

Ай бұрын

@@user-bn7ws2gi2j The company still gets the bill for all the ships that went looking, regardless of what was found.

@stung3848

Ай бұрын

@@user-bn7ws2gi2jso because there were no bodies found there were no cost incurred for all the teams used from across the world to try and look for the vessel? 🤦‍♀️

@WilliamRWarrenJr

Ай бұрын

What kind of value would you attach to the four other souls he took with him? A kid on an exorbitant outing with his dad?

@nickv4073

Ай бұрын

@@user-bn7ws2gi2j The search and rescue mission was done on day one and day two, Genius. It cost roughly $6M.

If someone tells you that you have to pay 6 figures to get crammed in a plastic tube and the only point of entry and exit is a steel hatch on one side that takes 45 minutes to install or remove, don’t go… this all seems like common sense

@wordman757

Ай бұрын

@@cartier13 The resin is a polymer, and could be thought of as a plastic.

@wordman757

Ай бұрын

@@cartier13 I didn't say carbon fiber was a polymer, I said the resins used are.

@Colin12475

Ай бұрын

If somebody offered me $250,000 to take a trip in the Titan, I wouldn't go, let alone paying that amount to do so.

@jerrysizzler44

Ай бұрын

I have PTSD from a motor vehicle accident. I can specifically recall the confidence and fearlessness I had before the accident, and ever since the accident, I'm baffled that anyone puts themselves in purposely risky situations. My little organism learned it wasn't invincible and now it's driven to protect itself lol.

@tandiparent1906

Ай бұрын

Unfortunately, it seems like common sense is a rare thing with many in the world today.

I appreciate this documentary because when it happened, I was shocked that so little caution was taken in the construction materials. This helped clarify. Thank you.

Now everybody leave the Titanic alone!!

Rush uses the safety record of others to sell his unsafe one. Despicable.

“I did not know I was an advisor”… “you were listed as an advisor”… “oh really?- thank you” 👁️👁️

@kugan5027

Ай бұрын

Did you notice how he was fidgeting with his hands?

@YeaYeaOKBUT

Ай бұрын

@@kugan5027 yea I was wondering what that could’ve meant

@CrustyUgg

Ай бұрын

@@YeaYeaOKBUTI've always been pretty good at reading people and am interested in body language.. I feel comfortable saying he is lying

@hughmortyproductions8562

Ай бұрын

@@CrustyUgg Or he could have just been nervous for any number of other reasons. Body language analysis is pseudo-science. Different people react to things in different ways and it seems like a huge leap to accuse him of lying based solely on what he does with his hands. He was also fidgeting with his hands (although not in the same way) when he answered the question about Stockton Rush misrepresenting the safety of the Titan. Do you think he was lying about that too?

@Interstellar_Traveler

Ай бұрын

​​@@hughmortyproductions8562 yeah, my social anxiety makes me fidget too, and that's even without a camera on me. It's not unusual for people to get nervous while being interviewed.

Fascinating how organization after organization in Canada desperately passed the buck and avoided interviews until the US coastguard just returned a call and actually sat down to discuss things.

@benwilson6145

7 күн бұрын

Simple question, what could Canada do, nothing. Oceangate was a US company operating in International waters. What did the US Coastguard do. nothingas well!

@youtubeletmeintoyoutube4580

6 күн бұрын

@@benwilson6145 thanks for posing and then answering your own question I guess?

It blows my mind that intelligent human beings could casually throw their lives away with such unnecessary and insane risk taking.

Comparing going into an uncertified sub, to saying dont get into a car because theres an element of risk....stockton rush seems to forget that cars themselves are certified to be able to drive on the road FIRST 😂

@grimmertwin2148

Ай бұрын

Don't effect Musk and his EV death traps

@jet_GraveWhisperer

Ай бұрын

@@grimmertwin2148 yeah u have a point

@chloeep9329

Ай бұрын

He was trying to ride on the coattails of those who did care about the rules and safety. Despicable man tbh

@UnicornsPoopRainbows

Ай бұрын

Rush also would fly around in an uncertified experimental plane he built, which he was far more qualified to build. Certain airports wouldn't let him land in them. As Bloom, one of the guys who turned down 2 of the tickets, Rush's appetite for risk far exceeded his own.

@nickolasstrudwick7232

Ай бұрын

@@grimmertwin2148 Please. 44 people have died from them if you search it. How many have died in tradition gasoline vehicle fires? The number is incalculable. You remind me of the covid death tolls. Yeah okay those people died but on the flip side more far more people are dying on the regular from heart failure, stroke, cancer, to name just a few. Same with car accidents.

"You're remembered through the rules that you break." What a quote, from Stockton Rush, Oceangate.

@seanbeukman9563

Ай бұрын

How IRONIC hey?

@Benucci_music

Ай бұрын

Well he didn't lie on that one

@Benucci_music

Ай бұрын

He tried to warn us

@redfeather1450

Ай бұрын

"........the rules that you break.......* *and the lives that you take.

@lauratroxel24

Ай бұрын

Well, that's evergreen.

I like how the port authority makes it clear the Titan was on private property.

Stockton: well we are under way. Billionares: nervous mutterings Stockton: oh look we can see...💥😳🥶 a second later. Tomato soup.

Definitely one of the better documentaries on this subject if not the best - not sensationalised and obviously well-researched. I hadn't realised that the St John's port authorities were so relaxed about the Titan - interesting. Well done, 5th Estate team!

@stephenholmes1036

Ай бұрын

Well said

@claus2427

10 күн бұрын

Other than the segment on Titanic basically being wrong (watch Oceanliner design).

Australian here - this was an excellent production.

@LadyHeathersLair

Ай бұрын

The fact that no Canadian company wanted to talk is a little suss to me. Canadian here.

@pattiquinn9619

Ай бұрын

Fifth Estate always is. While Canadian content might of great interest for an Australian, this content would most certainly be of interest for any journalist. Because it’s 100% researched.

@DanielVerberne

Ай бұрын

@LadyHeathersLair interesting observation. Wouldn't be unique to Canada of course, here in Australia we've plenty of situations where corporate Australia can be surprisingly tight-lipped when embarrassment/potential liability is on the horizon. It doesn't take a committed socialist to find oneself to be almost perpetually suspicious of the motives and supposed 'social license' of many for-profit companies.

@Trigger200284

Ай бұрын

CBC is a trusted news source for me, which says allot when you realize it’s a government funded institution.

@nickolasstrudwick7232

Ай бұрын

@@pattiquinn9619 Most Canadian content is of quality. It's in stark contrast to American sensationalism.

The worst part of this tragedy? The loss of a 19 year old boy.

@user-nx9nm7tu4i

13 күн бұрын

He knew the risks

I disagree when people say the titanic had design flaws. It really didn't. It had a double hull, and water tight compartments designed to stay afloat with compartments flooded. Titanic essentially sank because of a few feet damaging a fifth compartment. Titanic was tge safest ship of it's time.

This sub shouldn't have went any deeper than my bathtub

He SMILED when he said you'll be remembered for the rules you break.

@tandiparent1906

Ай бұрын

I guess he's getting exactly what he wanted then, unfortunately for all of those who were on the trip with him.

@M_SC

27 күн бұрын

The same smile of a serial killer, probably

@natalyawoop4263

22 күн бұрын

And later on, Darwin smiled

@mikemooney83

9 күн бұрын

He got that right.

Titan gave the entire planet anxiety for few days

Yep it's reassuring to know that that the completely unsuitable material is cracking. Just as it's reassuring to know that you can hear ice you are standing on cracking prior to it breaking up.

What is absolutely mind-bendingly morbidly fascinating to me is this series of educated wealthy professionals, who one would think would have at least the slightest sense of smoke being blown up the bum, believed lines and lines of nonsense fed to them. It’s astonishing.

@suew4609

Ай бұрын

Being rich doesn’t make you smart!

@grimmertwin2148

Ай бұрын

Look who supports Trump

@countrygirl4213

Ай бұрын

Kinda like cov?

@bobgillis1137

Ай бұрын

Indeed. This is reminiscent of that fraudulent young lady who pretended to invent the ground-breaking blood test and looped in some rather large names to fund her.

@brianlopez8855

Ай бұрын

It happened throughout the Covid Plandemic, so I'm absolutely NOT surprised.

What I don't get is why there are still people going "Well we do need people like Stockton Rush or else we never move forward"... some people are a lost cause I swear.

@grimmertwin2148

Ай бұрын

Like Musk

@anjou6497

Ай бұрын

Yup.

@denissavgir2881

Ай бұрын

@@grimmertwin2148 musk has actually done alot of useful things, and has made a difference in various ways. Rush singlehandedly changed the rareness rating of a particular type of accident, as it almost never happens

@MarbRedFred

Ай бұрын

@@denissavgir2881exactly!!! I’m not a fan of musk for the most part but I myself or anyone else for that matter doesn’t have the right to say that he hasn’t changed the world for the better! Without musk, private aerospace industry would be very much nonexistent. Nonexistent and not making HUGE STRIDES for mankind’s future and survival via space exploration and expansion. Government sector makes strides but at a snails pace and mainly for military purposes only!!! So love or hate musk but don’t even think of saying he’s done no good for humanity

@bdarecords_

Ай бұрын

@@MarbRedFred "don't even think of saying" So what happens when we think it? Neuralink remote control explosion? He has done no good for humanity. I even wrote it. How dare I?

What got out of this about Stockton (the CEO) is that he did not like being criticized, being told what to do and he does not like any type of rules cause it would had limited him

You’re remembered for the rules you break, AND THE LIVES YOU TAKE, Rush! /Mechanical Engineering Majors, pay attention.

@anisvadjian5142

15 күн бұрын

Any sort of engineering majors, pay attention! Any field of engineering can have massive and lethal consequences for wanton risk.

"No I did not know I was listed as an advisor"... (Thinks: I'll be phoning my lawyer on Monday!)

@destinyf81

23 күн бұрын

he's an advisor- a man who advised them to discontinue use of the titan and advised against using the carbon fiber hull.

@ScribStat

20 күн бұрын

@@destinyf81 Not that Stockton Rush specified that!

Being bolted in from the outside.. that’s insane.

@joanpheto5538

Ай бұрын

That’s what I thought..

Zero chance I would have gotten on that thing. RIP to those who lost their lives.

This was the best presentation on the 2023 implostion of the Titan submersible I have seen yet!

It's amazing that it even made it once

@tiffanyvarelli8834

Ай бұрын

It made it like 40x way more then once. The creator of the Simpsons had been on it

@rachelreneer56

Ай бұрын

I was surprised too that the Titian went down 14 times. Might have made it more if ut weren't dragged out and in 360 miles each way. However, sadly, destruction was going to happen due to the negligence.

And BOEING is such an example of safe machines 🙃🙃🙃

@mowtivatedmechanic1172

Ай бұрын

Hey when BOING says “eff that thing” you KNOW you got problems.

@pjaypender1009

Ай бұрын

​@@mowtivatedmechanic1172they actually were before the merger with McDonnell Douglas. Before the McDonnell more casual leadership, Boeing was known for safety.

@bogdiworksV2

Ай бұрын

@pjay "was" being the operative word.

@janetphillips2875

Ай бұрын

There's a Boeing plant near us. It always has a bunch of nose cones lying out back of the giant building. We call it the Boeing Outlet ...

@julianwalls1077

25 күн бұрын

Boeing believes in dei just like the Titan guy ..😢

Its so so sad.that could have been preventable. R.I.P.TO THEM ALL WHO WENT DOWN WITH THE TITAN.

Stockton Rush: “You are remembered for the rules you break”. He got that one correct. We do remember you for that…maybe not the way you were hoping to be remembered.😬

Year ago I went to the Titanic traveling exhibit in Denver and before it started, there was a mini documentary hosted by Bill Paxton & he half jokingly said “ I made sure my last will & testimate was in order” , right before he went down in the legit submersible to see the titanic ! You could see his genuine apprehension but he did go down to see it. Braver then me!!

@jdesigns5945

Ай бұрын

You mean dumber than you.

@smi2le4ever

Ай бұрын

I mean yeah but that was a REAL sub.

@bobgillis1137

Ай бұрын

Tens of thousands die in car accidents each year in America.

@user-tb9uf8oc6r

Ай бұрын

Also the same day as 9/11 apparently.

Just the fact Rush actually casually called his submersible a "submarine" on a news interview when those words mean totally different under-watercraft is a sign of his carelessness, if not his duplicity.

@LuvBorderCollies

Ай бұрын

When you're talking to the general public you have to really dumb down the terminology.

@corywhitehead83

Ай бұрын

​@@LuvBorderColliesit looks like he also decided to dumb down the tech and safety in this deathtrap as well.

@Pootie_Tang

Ай бұрын

What is the difference?

@mikoto7693

Ай бұрын

@@Pootie_TangA submarine is a vessel capable of going underwater and going on missions completely autonomously. It can launch from its base, go down its mission and return to base on its own. A submersible is similar, it can go underwater and complete missions however it is dependent upon a surface “mothership” to operate and complete the mission. In the Titan’s case it required a ship to transport or tow it out to sea to the dive site, it had to be in regular communication with the ship and when the dive was completed, the Titan had to be retrieved by the ship and crew then transported/towed back to shore.

@anotherinternetidiot6300

Ай бұрын

​@@mikoto7693thank you! I appreciate you taking the time.

Thank you for always going above and beyond to find out all the facts on these stories! Brilliant content!

Thank you for a really great expose on this tragedy.

All these experts are giving the right answer to the wrong question. tensile strength of carbon fibre is not in question. The problem is that a tube, no matter how linearly strong it be, can always be wrung. The water pressure wasn't pulling against the tensile resistance of anything. It was pushing in on a tube, a shape which inherently was made to give way simply by twisting a little bit, making distances shorter, not longer, using its tensile quality to pull those indestructible titanium ends inward to help in the general crush.

@hosmerhomeboy

Ай бұрын

Well put, simple and concise!

@danacrooks4474

Ай бұрын

@@hosmerhomeboyYet I still didn’t understand it.

The guy who built the Titan could technically be classified as a mass murderer. His arrogance was astounding. Great reporting on this, 5th Estate.

@staringinward

Ай бұрын

LOL not in the least goofball

@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg

Ай бұрын

The Vivek of Submersibles

@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg

Ай бұрын

​@@staringinwardHe didn't patent anything, didn't invent anything, just "rushed onwards" without any caution?. Killing Other's!.

@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg

Ай бұрын

​Doh Doofus......like Carbon is anything new. Graphite?.

@bigjared8946

Ай бұрын

I feel bad for the kid, the rest of them not so much. 12,000 feet of water isn't a "tourist destination" and people who think it is have their own brand of hubris that isn't much removed from Stockton's hubris. True cause of death: affluenza. All of this to "see" a rusty old shipwreck through a tiny window with very little light.

Couple of spare game controllers, now that's reassuring.

This story never fails to boost my mood.

"You are remembered for the rules you break" Oh yes, Rush, you are.

I wouldn't go on an experimental plane that had sensors to let me know that the wings were about to fall off.

@denissavgir2881

Ай бұрын

I would, as that information is good to know. But if their reason for installation was to track the ongoing progressive process of their active destruction, then I definitely wouldnt

@timheavyable

Ай бұрын

Just to remind you that you will implode in a few seconds.

@yvonnemariedonaghey5557

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

"You are remembered by the rules you break." The irony here is that he did accomplish that, just not in the way he intended.

There's an irony in knowing that both the Titanic and Oceangate were confidently sold as "unsinkable" to their passengers.

Turns my stomach inside out thinking about what those poor passengers went through

@matteooz2735

20 күн бұрын

It was instant - wouldn’t feel a thing.

@angelcasillas1014

11 күн бұрын

These passengers weren't poor

"Ive broken some rules to make this." Oh dear, very ominous

Excellent. I've never heard anyone talking about the wreckage before. Very good documentary.

The US Coast Guard shows a far higher level of professionalism in contrast to its Canadian counterparts.

One of the best places to binge on documentaries 🇨🇦💪🏽💪🏽

@vladimirputin2685

Ай бұрын

💯 FACTS!!! And I live in the States.

@lorigarza9971

Ай бұрын

I am a newbie to the channel. I definitely plan to binge on this channel!

@carolfromalbertacanada

Ай бұрын

@willankhatter. 🇨🇦Alberta

@thing_under_the_stairs

Ай бұрын

Always interesting stuff! Go CBC!

@clarelwc2849

Ай бұрын

Agree! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿UK

I hate when reporters call the Titanic flawed. For its time period it was the most advanced ship of it's class. Yes, it didnt have enough lifeboats for all on board, but it was still above standard. The sinking of the Titanic is precisely why ship safety standards rose significantly. Anyways, thats my rant for today.

@nowirehangers2815

Ай бұрын

It was flawed That’s why it sunk

@LaPinturaBella

Ай бұрын

It may have been the most advanced ship of its class at the time. That doesn't mean it was also flawed. Both are true statements.

@denissavgir2881

Ай бұрын

@@LaPinturaBella it was flawed. Various corners were cut, and it wasn't built to standard

@betinablueyes

Ай бұрын

Titanic wasn't as flawed as the arrogant men in charge of her.

@alexgrant191

Ай бұрын

⁠@@denissavgir2881that’s a lie but believe what you want. The ship was built to the highest codes of its time & no “corners were cut” that’s just a factually incorrect narrative peddled by those without any real understanding of the disaster outside of a few Hollywood movies. Never in maritime history either before or since has a ship side swiped an iceberg to that extent. She wasn’t designed to survive that type of incident because it wasn’t seen as a possibility - it was & still is unprecedented

Stockton Crush

@exodiatheforbiddenone186

15 күн бұрын

LOL GOOD ONE

Love this program very well done. Waay to ask the hard questions