I thought Desi's casting of Vance and Frawley was a stroke of genius. Despite the age gap they portrayed the embittered couple beautifully. I couldn't imagine anyone else playing the roles. They bounced off Lucy and Desi's characters wonderfully.

@missy6597

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they bounced off of each other, but my word, 2 no actually 3 Bully’s Vivian had to be around on a daily basis. Ever heard the saying, It takes one to know one. Well that was Desi and Frawley, two loud mouthed knowitalls, wait I forgot about the biggest loud mouthed bully Lucille. That lady had to face a 3 header every day, holy moly what she went through

@harperstacey9604

2 жыл бұрын

@@missy6597 William frawley was very cruel to Vivian Vance. From Ms. Harper Stacey.

@FactsVerse

2 жыл бұрын

Well said, we agree! Vance and Frawley portrayed their roles flawlessly! What other types of videos would you like to see on our channel?

@ozrob8726

2 жыл бұрын

@@FactsVerse I would like to see one of the John Wayne movie Hatari because of the wonderful cast and the fact that it was more than just a movie, with animals featured actually being caught and sent to zoos around the world.

@debrahubbard763

2 жыл бұрын

Vivian Vance and Lucille Ball were friends, and she was a loyal friend!!! I wouldn't want to play the homely "she wasn't!!" friend!

I never once thought of Vivian Vance as “the ugly sidekick!”

@EdsterIII

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I thought that was odd description. I remember as a little kid watching this with my Mom. Well I would be on the floor with my🔥Hot🔥Wheels🔥, while she watched the 📺TV📺. They looked like a couple? But now when I see the reruns, and even back when I became a teenager, I remember thinking, HOW did this guy get her? He was old, paunchy or chubby, loud, ornery, folically challenged, and not exactly James Dean. Vivian on the other hand seemed cuter than they showed. I'll bet that was a difficult time for her. First to work alongside a cranky old fart who constantly was whining, bitching, and screaming at you for a plethora of reasons.

@scottstuerke4560

2 жыл бұрын

Me too ✋

@louisquintanar3066

2 жыл бұрын

@@EdsterIII m

@debbiemullen2574

2 жыл бұрын

Me either. She was beautiful!

@joann.5041

2 жыл бұрын

@@debbiemullen2574 I have always thought Vivian Vance was every bit as pretty as Lucille Ball was, too!

Vivian Vance was far from ugly no matter what role she played. Her natural beauty and winning smile was always present on screen.

@FactsVerse

2 жыл бұрын

We strongly concur! Thank you for watching our content and for sharing your thoughts. What other types of videos would you like to see?

@EdsterIII

2 жыл бұрын

Vivian Vance had big, beautiful, sparkling eyes 👀 ! Add that adorable smile and comedic banter that Vivian and Lucy had, they were a great duo! A duo who played off one another to perfection!

@gypseenomad3956

2 жыл бұрын

She was beautiful

@kennethoats2322

2 жыл бұрын

Yes...in real life Vivian Vance was an attractive woman

@lenagrasso2701

2 жыл бұрын

Vivian Vance was beautiful.

Ethel was always my favorite character. The way Vivian delivered her lines and mannerisms was hilarious, especially when she got riled up

Frawley loved baseball, he loved watching it, talking about it, betting on it and lived from spring training to the World Series. Everything else in life was truly secondary to him.

@FactsVerse

2 жыл бұрын

Fun stuff, thank you for sharing this information. Be on the lookout for our next video!

@mjw1955

2 жыл бұрын

In the book "Lucy and Ricky and Fred and Ethel" Desi told Frawley that he would be given ONE chance to be unable to work because he was hung over, and if there was a second time he would be written out of the show. In turn, Frawley wanted a clause in his contract that if the NY Yankees ever made the World Series, that he would be given time off to attend the games.

@4hirehiro

2 жыл бұрын

@@mjw1955 Great story - thanks for giving a source, otherwise I would wonder if it was too 'on the nose' to have actually happened

@rivaridge7211

Жыл бұрын

Yes, poetcomic1, Our Bill was a huge fan of the New York Yankees - and was very smart to have the "World Series" (time off) clause written into his contract. I believe Mr. Frawley enjoyed four "World Series" adventures with the Yankee team during his "I Love Lucy" run. He picked a great decade to do so - Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris, to name just two, were Yankee greats that many still recall to this day!

@apoliticallevi

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

The behind the scenes action of I Love Lucy sounds more exciting than the show itself

I don't know if that story is an Urban Legend. I've read that while Bill and Viv didn't like each other, their "hatred" was exaggerated. According to one of the writers they were totally professional on set and were cordial towards each other. "When it's a choice to print the truth or legend, print the legend".

I never would have guessed. He was as bad off screen as on. Desi is well known to me for his brilliant mind. The fact that he saw that and the bigger picture in “I love Lucy” testifies to his brilliant mind.

Rest in peace Lucille ball desi Arnaz Sr William Frawley and Vivian Vance

@FactsVerse

2 жыл бұрын

May they find peace 🙏

Regardless of all the off screen drama. They all 4 were perfectly cast In I Love Lucy, it was a very very funny show set in the 1950’s and I have watched it a million times! Desi Arnaz was a genius in his ability to just KNOW what worked well. Classic TV 📺

When Vivian Vance saw William Frawley for the first time, she said he should be playing her father, not her husband. Frawley heard what she said and held a grudge for the entire time they were together.

@jasona9

2 жыл бұрын

Vance shouldn't have said that. Frawley didn't cast himself.

@johna.4334

2 жыл бұрын

Someone should have slapped Vivian in the face.

@missy6597

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t matter what she said, if he was a Man, then he should’ve Man Uped and talked to her about coming to a solution to her feelings, not be a little baby a pout and be a BULLY like he was. He was a coward ass bully, not a man

@purplemav

2 жыл бұрын

Feelings aside, the fact is he was 22 years older than she was, and was indeed old enough to play her father.

@EdsterIII

2 жыл бұрын

@@missy6597 I'm NOT agreeing with his actions at all! Any abuse towards a woman is wrong. Back then if a man acted like men do now, he'd be considered weak and pathetic. But after growing up and seeing abuses first hand, I can honestly say, if anyone thinks hitting a woman is anything but pathetic and weak, you may have some issues.

I Love Lucy was a favorite of mine for many, many years...always interesting and kept you laughing too. Never dreamed that "Fred" and "Ethel" were so angry towards each other, that's a shocker, they kept that hidden very well when the cameras were rolling! Also, was interesting to hear how they made "Ethel" look older for the part she played. Awesome video about the "crew," thanks FactsVerse!

@lishamarlar4597

2 жыл бұрын

They were acting

@FactsVerse

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! We're so glad you enjoyed this video. What other types of videos would you like to see?

@thisisme3238

2 жыл бұрын

@@FactsVerse What about a video on the actors/actresses that played in the sitcom "Soap!"

@FactsVerse

2 жыл бұрын

@@thisisme3238 Thank you for your suggestion. We'll look into the Soap! celebrities. Have a great day 💕

@thisisme3238

2 жыл бұрын

@@FactsVerse ty

The make up did not work on Vance, Frawley still looked like her dad on the show.

@harperstacey9604

2 жыл бұрын

William frawley was 22 years older than Vivian Vance. From Ms. Harper Stacey.

@GasPipeJimmy

2 жыл бұрын

No, it worked

@eloiseockert9319

2 жыл бұрын

Many men in real life marry younger women... (Dick Van Dyke for one in the limelight)...it wasn't really the fact he was much older but he looked it! Short, fat, & bald!

William was a great actor despite his alcohol problems. He fit the role of Fred. I didn't know that Vivian and William didn't like one other.

@geraldstephens6612

2 жыл бұрын

Desi Arnaz wrote about Frawley & Vance not getting along in Desi Arnaz' autobiography. He was able to get the two to work together as the pros they really are.

@FactsVerse

2 жыл бұрын

We agree! Thank you for watching our content. Be on the lookout for our next video!

@carriedillmann4455

2 жыл бұрын

I did

When Vivian Vance first found out that William Frawley had been cast on the show she thought it was for the role as her father and was rather indignant that it was for the role of her husband, she obviously got over it!

@johna.4334

2 жыл бұрын

Money changes everything.

@electrictroy2010

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt she made much money. Just the standard acting rate… no residuals from the popular reruns of the show

@kellygreen5556

2 жыл бұрын

Frawley was cast first

It never occurred to me that Ethel was younger than Fred. They seemed a perfectly matched couple. So ... the party Vivian threw when William died? Despite the hupe, you did not tell us about that. Vivian could not have been displeased with the part of the "ugly sidekick." She went on to work with Lucy for years afterwards.

Besides William Frawley, the other three stars died in years ending in both 6 and 9. Vivian Vance died metastatic breast cancer back on August 17, 1979. She was 70. Desi Arnaz died of lung cancer back on December 2, 1986. He was 69. And Lucille Ball died of a ruptured aorta back on April 26, 1989. She was 77. On Thursday, March 3, 1966, William Frawley suffered a heart attack right out there on Hollywood Blvd. after seeing the Natalie Wood movie Inside Daisy Clover. He was then dragged to the Knickerbocker Hotel. And then he was taken to the hospital, where he was pronounced dead. He was 79. May they rest in peace. Amen. It's hard to believe that this coming Thursday (March 3) will mark the 56th anniversary of his death. May he rest in peace. Amen.

@terrancemartin1042

2 жыл бұрын

6666.. very interesting.. ?? Plus Lucille ball died on carol Burnett's birthday .. hmm ??

@missy6597

2 жыл бұрын

@@terrancemartin1042 that is interesting because Lucy kicked in Carol Burnet’s career. And Carol had said that Lucy always sent her flowers on her b-day, and she had wondered if she would actually receive flowers that day, the day Lucy passed away, she said right on time, like her very best friend Carol called her, the door bell rang and there was a beautiful bouquet of flowers from Lucy, the card read, Keep Knocking em dead kid, your friend always Lucy, that might not be word for word, it’s what I remember hearing Carol say

@maddyhayes617

2 жыл бұрын

@@missy6597 i also heard the same about Carol and Lucy's friendship.👍🙂

@ronblack7870

Жыл бұрын

so the alcoholic guy ended up living to the oldest age

Grew up watching William Frawley. It's weird to think that he was born in the 1800's. 100 years before me.....

I believe that because Mr Frawley had a serious alcoholic problem that we can all assume that Vivian Vance didn't enjoy his behaviour a bit and when he died she opened a bottle of champagne. According to my personal point of view, what Vivian Vance did shouldn't have been publicized at all. She should have kept her mouth quiet for her on set tv husband. Please think positive daily. ©® March 30, 2022 @ 12:40 pm ©®

@eloiseockert9319

2 жыл бұрын

When you assume you make an ass of you and me! This remark that Vivian made was taken out of proportion. By the time Wm Frawley died it had been many years since she had seen him.

This is cut and pasted from an article about Vivian: "It’s said when William Frawley, Vance’s co-star on I Love Lucy, died, Vance ordered champagne for everyone." For everyone's information, whenever something starts out "it's said..." it means Mayday, Mayday, Bulls--- alert! If you want to know if something's true, find out if there is a credible source, and some background into, can if be verified, corroborated. I've heard the champagne story for decades, but not once read anyone say, "I was there, and had champagne."

In spite of their differences Fred and Ethel made a great landlord cast for the I Love Lucy Show.. I could not imagine any other two characters playing their parts.

@FactsVerse

2 жыл бұрын

We agree! Thank you for watching our content. Be on the lookout for our next video!

@charlesjackson1700

2 жыл бұрын

@@FactsVerse Thank you.. I sure will..👍

@chuckschafer942

9 ай бұрын

THEY WERE NOT THE ORIGINAL CHOICES

Wm. Frawley & Vivian Vance didn"t get along but to say the 2 performers hated each other's guts is extreme.

I don’t blame Vivian for celebrating William Frawley’s death. Sounds like he was not a nice person and did not treat Vivian well. Their dislike for each other probably made their performance on I Love Lucy easier to portray since it was the reality.

@haintedhouse2990

2 жыл бұрын

sounds like backstage was anything but a comedy - Fred and Ethel hate each other, Ricki's screwing around behind Lucy's back, Lucy won't let Ethel wear flattering dresses or loose weight. re-runs will never quite look so innocent anymore.

@chuckschafer942

11 ай бұрын

I ONCE WENT TO A MANS FUNERAL JUST TO MAKE SURE "THAT HE IS IN THE BOX"

Ethel was NEVER ugly! Lucy's clothes were hideous on I Love Lucy. My mother said she never cared for them & neither did I.

@nadezhdawall-rossi2864

2 жыл бұрын

1950s clothes, furniture, cars, hairdos, interior decorating were ugly.

I heard once that Lucy wanted Gale Gordon to play Fred, but for some unknown reason he was never chosen…. But 2 series later, Gordon was Lucy’s long suffering boss, and the rest is TV history. He was also in the short lived Life with Lucy, which was the last time they worked together…. Poor Bill Frawley, if he was stone cold sober things would have been different for him. Great, classic tv show

@mandymayne8759

2 жыл бұрын

Gale Gordon appeared as a guest star in 2 episodes of I Love Lucy, playing the same character: Mr. Littlefield, the owner of the Tropicana nightclub. So he was Ricky’s boss before he was Lucy’s boss.

@roushanam

2 жыл бұрын

"but for some unknown reason he was never chosen…." He had a higher paying job on radio; he did not choose it.

@robertdragoff6909

2 жыл бұрын

@@roushanam I didn’t know he was working on a radio show. What was the show?

@roushanam

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertdragoff6909 'Our Miss Brooks'. It seems this radio show also developed a concurrent tv version that began shortly after 'I Love Lucy' started, and he was under contract but I had understood modest salaries at the beginning of 'I Love Lucy' were the clincher.

@eloiseockert9319

2 жыл бұрын

Gale Gordon wanted the part as Fred but he had a commitment elsewhere and couldn't get out of his contract. Also the same for Bes Bernadette as Lucy wanted her to play Ethel but she also was under contract elsewhere.

Very Intriguing Video!

@FactsVerse

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! We're so glad you enjoyed this video. What other types of videos would you like to see?

@avejoe

2 жыл бұрын

@@FactsVerse St. Elsewhere.

@FactsVerse

2 жыл бұрын

@@avejoe Thank you for your suggestion. We'll look into St. Elsewhere! Stay safe ❤

@avejoe

2 жыл бұрын

@@FactsVerse You're Welcome! I love your channel!

Childless for Ethel to hate Fred. With him she became famous a fame that isn't going to die. I should be so lucky.

@eloiseockert9319

2 жыл бұрын

Childish...

The most surprising part is the breaking out of the champagne

@missy6597

2 жыл бұрын

I was happy to hear that part. That bully had abused her enough. Yes abuse certainly doesn’t always mean physical, mental abuse is certainly a horrible thing to have to live with or be around on a daily basis, like Vivian had to. Lucy and Desi was money hungry, work-a-haulics, and if you got in their way they would dismiss you, as if you never existed. Hopefully Hollywood has changed its ways

@guns2keepmefree

2 жыл бұрын

You would not believe how many of us keep champagne on hand and break it out when we find out that a devious devil has died! Can't wait till I can break out the bottle with Hillary's name on it!

@travelseatsyellowlab

2 жыл бұрын

@@guns2keepmefree you've got a lot of emotion tied up in somebody you don't know. Just cross your fingers that you get to pop that bottle.

Vivan was so underrated from the all four leads in i love Lucy.

@akrenwinkle

2 жыл бұрын

Vivian won 4 Emmys playing Ethel. The public loved her.

@katarinakrnjevic8183

2 жыл бұрын

@@akrenwinkle i know but somehow people don't talk about her like Lucy or Desi

@akrenwinkle

2 жыл бұрын

@@katarinakrnjevic8183 Lucy and Desi were movie stars long before television. They were a very attractive couple, and that gets attention. Less is known about Vivian, and maybe she preferred it that way. I'm not sure you know what underrated means.

@katarinakrnjevic8183

2 жыл бұрын

@@akrenwinkle It just all four of them had iconic roles in i love lucy yet people only rememberd Lucy and Desi despite Vivian and Wiliam also had equally big roles

@akrenwinkle

2 жыл бұрын

@@katarinakrnjevic8183 I think by your name, English is not your first language, although you write very well. If you really want to know what underrated means, there are online dictionaries.

William was a difficult person. Vivian was a real lady and was devoted to Lucy

William Frawley was an isolated figure in Hollywood. If not for Dezi he would've died in anonymity. Vivians issue with Frawley was the age difference, Frawley cemented the rift with his poor treatment of Vance. She was quite glamorous when she took the part.

@eloiseockert9319

2 жыл бұрын

Desi not Dezi! If Wm Frawley wasn't given the part of Fred of it was destined for him to be seen professionally in the public eye another role would have manifested!

@raiderjohnthemadbomber8666

2 жыл бұрын

@@eloiseockert9319 thank you for the correction. Owning an odd name myself I'm usually better a tuned to such things. I agree Wm. Frawleys talents were under used despite the best efforts of the production crew.

I remember seeing every single episode of "I Love Lucy" when I was much younger and boy did I enjoy watching it very much. Please think positive daily. ©® March 30, 2022 @ 12:30 pm ©®

@FactsVerse

2 жыл бұрын

Happy to see that you love I Love Lucy! Thank you too for the beautiful message. We wish you the best in life ❤

Desi said “ I will hire you only if you don’t ever drink on set ‘ Frawley agreed !

@eloiseockert9319

2 жыл бұрын

So what?

@suestephan3255

2 жыл бұрын

And must have made him pretty cranky

It's a good follow-up and including for what may or may not be news to me.

Absolutely loved the show, but I wish the writers could have come up with a better angle than frumpy--to contrast her with Lucy. I saw a documentary that stated that Vivian had to stay 25 pounds heavier than Lucy, as stipulated in her contract. Maybe they could have portrayed Vivian as a glamorous, younger trophy wife of Fred--I don't think that would have detracted from Lucy. And her contrast to Fred would have made the show even funnier. I saw Lucy as a blonde in an early movie of her career--she looked great. There's some terrific photos online of the blonde Lucy. I wonder what most people would prefer--Lucy as a blonde or redhead?

In more than one book, I have read that Vivian proclaimed William should've portrayed her grandfather instead of her husband, and he declared her figure was like a bag of doorknobs...OUCH!!! She allegedly called him "the old drunk", while he sniped back referring to her as "the old cunning tart" (um, leaving out several letters...) 😱

@gregoryburns648

2 жыл бұрын

Wow! We have the same first and last name.

The age gap between couples was not as important back in the 50s as it is in society now. There were always plenty of May-December marriages, and still are, just not as common. An older man with a younger woman wasn’t as frowned upon then as it is now. It was a bit unusual, but not out of the ordinary. As for Vivian Vance and William Frawley, theirs was a relationship that was built on hate from the start, even to the point of sabotaging each other.

@eloiseockert9319

2 жыл бұрын

Frawley was short, fat and bald...

Your thumbnail led with the champagne celebration, but it was only the last sentence in the video. More details could have been used here, or a different focus on the thumbnail, like how she hated her costar.

she?...was a real babe in real life apart from the Ethel Mertz frumpery. He?...was a man with a truly outstanding singing voice in his day.

He wouldn't let things go. I knew people like that when they hold onto a grudge they carry it to excessive lengths. I have been around people like that it can be a nightmare trust me Vivian was in the right to celebrate

@missy6597

2 жыл бұрын

Especially drunks, OMGOODNESS gracious, they ramble on and on and on. You hit the nail on the head.

@travelseatsyellowlab

2 жыл бұрын

Over the course of my life, I've met a person or two who deserves to have a grudge held against them.

@eloiseockert9319

2 жыл бұрын

She was celebrating his life as a comedian. The remark was taken out of proportion.

@suestephan3255

2 жыл бұрын

He was 20 years older and balding, did he think he looked young? Was old enough to play her Dad.

@chuckschafer942

11 ай бұрын

SOMEONE ONCE ASKED ME HOW LONG CAN I HARBOR A GRUDGE MY REPLY "WHATS THE RECORD"@@travelseatsyellowlab

As hard as they tried, Vivian was hardly unattractive on the show. It was very evident she was much younger than William. It was Lucille Ball, according to her daughter Luci Arnaz who was jealous of Vivian’s good looks and style and wasn’t having any of it. She made sure and did her best that she would not be upstaged and made sure Vivian played Ethel as frumpy as possible. Although the women became good friends, this created some resentment on Vivian’s part. It didn’t help that both William and Vivian despised each other.

@itachileesan

2 жыл бұрын

while partly true, vivian and lucille were great friends up until their death

@eloiseockert9319

2 жыл бұрын

This was shown in the movie documentary "Being the Ricardo's.'

It is said the network was considering the making of a spinoff series starring Vance and Frawley. Her reaction was "Over my dead body!" When he heard this Frawley allegedy said "That miserable c**t!" Vance was having lunch with friends when she heard of his death the night before. She reportedly jumped up and said "Champagne for everybody!"

@travelseatsyellowlab

2 жыл бұрын

Seems like he lived in her head rent free, for many years

@eloiseockert9319

2 жыл бұрын

To celebrate his life as a performer.

@eloiseockert9319

2 жыл бұрын

Bill knew how Vivian felt. Why would she want to star in a TV show with him?

@mjw1955

2 жыл бұрын

@@eloiseockert9319 Yeah, right. She hated his guts and it was mutual.

@mjw1955

2 жыл бұрын

@@eloiseockert9319 Yeah, right. She hated his guts, and it was mutual. The last thing she was celebrating was his performance.

Only once during the run of I Love Lucy did the Yankees not make the World Series (1954), which featured the Cleveland Indians against the New York Giants, which the Giants won in a sweep.

I read that Vivian couldn't have been happier than William Frawley passing away, that was in my book Desilu, also his last TV appearance was on The Lucy Show just before he died

@eloiseockert9319

2 жыл бұрын

Not true. She did treat to everyone in the restaurant she was eating champagne but not because he died. She toasted that a great comedian had passed. Despite bickering she knew he was a great performer!

@chuckschafer942

11 ай бұрын

@@eloiseockert9319 YOU MUST BELIEVE IN SANTA CLAUS

Facts Verse.....you know many of these videos focus on the tabloid or other vicious and nasty downfalls these people had. Yes it is part of the history, but YOU always show all the people RESPECT!🙏 For that I applaud 👏 you! Views on You Tube are the main goal, but you don't do it at the expense of someone's past. Taking into account their families, friends, possible co-workers still around. You tell the story with FACTS while keeping the content decent, honest, and real. I've gotten frustrated at many of these types of videos. I hope I haven't been critical of your work.

I think... a man who has the natural demeanor of a curmudgeon but knows to use it to comedic effect must be good hearted enough as to not take himself too seriously and if Vivian Vance was too much of a prima donna not to see that then I don't know about her... frankly, William Frawley was funny...!!! and I loved him for it.

@daveycody

2 жыл бұрын

I always thought Frawley was the best one on the show. Even as a little kid. And Vance imo was equal to Ball.

The video did not tell us anything that we did not know about.

Vivian Vance doesn't hold a candle to the talents of William Frawley!

It has been said when Frawley heard that Vivian Vance flat out refused to do spinoff series with him he reportedly said, "That miserable (rhymes with runt)!"

I thought Vivian Vance was amazing as Ethel, and she looks good. They made her look older, but she was still pretty. Frawley was great too. Sorry to hear he was so difficult.

William Frawley was on The Lucy Show.. He was on there one time...

I doubt anyone would celebrate anyone's death let alone the lovely Vivian Vance.

@chuckschafer942

11 ай бұрын

I DID WHEN THE B S M s RESIDENT DESPOT DIED I DANCED A JIG IN "SUN SQUARE"WENT TO HIS FUNERAL TO MAKE SURE HE WAS IN THE BOX AND HAD A FRIEND DRIVE ME TO WORK OTHERWISE I WOULD HAVE BEEN TOO LIQUIFIED TO GO

They hated one another in REAL life. I'm told that Frawley was a prick to everyone who knew him...

gosh I only listened thinking you'd have some new info, especially about the storied scene of Vivian at a restaurant when she made te proclamation "break out the champagne." For Lucy fans this stuff is old hat.

i think desi laid down the law with frawley as to his drinking,. that if he ever missed work or was drunk on set that he would be fired. frawley complied .

Vivian's beauty was seen in the show that guest starred Barbara Eden. Vivian had her hair pulled back. She did have beautiful eyes and fantastic facial features. Look at her great high cheekbones in that episode. In the episode of the baby chicks when it was so heated in the Connecticut home and 'Ethel's pants were rolled up beautiful legs Lucy's legs were so thin in comparison.

Surprised that The Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour wasn't mentioned in full.

Most surprising? Calling Vivian ugly. She always looked good to me and was usually nicely dressed. From "I Love Lucy" to the later "Lucy" shows, Vivian Vance always looked great and was easily recognized.

I always loved the Mertz's in "I Love Lucy", so much so that I wasn't a fan of The Lucy Show because they weren't regulars in it.

@reuben854

2 жыл бұрын

I wasn't a fan of the Lucy Show because by that time Lucy had aged out of being funny in the manner that made I Love Lucy a great show.

Alcoholism is not pretty.

@FactsVerse

2 жыл бұрын

We agree! Thank you for watching our content. Be on the lookout for our next video!

I LOVED. THEM. BOTH❤🙏

There were many actors who hated each other, better to remember the show and the laughs it gave us..

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@eloiseockert9319

2 жыл бұрын

What does that have to do with I.L.L.?

TIMELESS SHOW BRILLIANT ACTORS

@FactsVerse

2 жыл бұрын

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True story: some of the show's crew seriously offered to drop a heavy lighting rig on top of Frawley as an "accident". Everyone hated his guts. That's a rare gift to make EVERYBODY hate you.

I had no idea they disliked each other so!

William Frawley is another example of how alcohol can destroy someone's life. Sad because he was highly talented. Yet, it messed up his attitude. None of it really surprised me.

@ronblack7870

Жыл бұрын

yet he lived to be older than all three of the others.

@tj921able

Жыл бұрын

@@ronblack7870 Living longer doesn't mean his life was better, though

MY mother always watched the show as a kid growing up i couldnt stand it. But will admit now that i have watched many episodes since.

My mother was on a flight and Vance and Ball were passengers. Lucy brought her own booze and was condescending to the stewardesses. They weren’t flight attendants then.

@FactsVerse

2 жыл бұрын

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@ronblack7870

Жыл бұрын

i think martin short had a run in with lucy on an airplane flight. it wasn't flattering.

@martinphilip8998

Жыл бұрын

@@ronblack7870 One of my sisters has been a flight attendant since Pan Am. Another attendant saw a seat light going off again. Ugh, she wants more water. My sister said she’d take care of it even though it wasn’t her station. My sister kept the water coming for Mother Teresa and was thrice blessed. Same sister used Joan River’s tiny fur coat to do a private impression of her.

It's a shame that William & Vivian were unable to get along.

what a shame Vivian, who was beautiful, had to gain weight and try to look frumpy for so many years!

@eloiseockert9319

2 жыл бұрын

Vivian.

Great memories 1960s. All rip greatness Amen 🙏.🇺🇸🇵🇷🙏🙏.

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Huge fan of I Love Lucy. William Frawley was my least favorite on the show, now I know why. I first watched I Love Lucy when I was six years old even then I didn't like him . I did like Lucy, Desi, Vivian. I still love the show to this day & plan on saving up for the box set.

@FactsVerse

2 жыл бұрын

Glad to know that you're a fan of I Love Lucy! Also, thank you for sharing your favorites and least ones too! Stay safe ❣

There are plenty of old guys today that still sport the Fred Mertz trousers.

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2 жыл бұрын

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2 жыл бұрын

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2 жыл бұрын

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2 жыл бұрын

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2 жыл бұрын

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I hope Vivan didn't really break out the champagne when William died. This would have been unfortunate.

@missy6597

2 жыл бұрын

I hope she did. And from what I’ve heard she did, WooHoo 🎉

@jaengen

2 жыл бұрын

I heard she also did a happy dance, champagne bottle in hand.

@eloiseockert9319

2 жыл бұрын

She did to celebrate his life as a performer

The odd mystery is why Desi wanted the old drunk. It is almost certainly he wanted him and Lucy to be the attractive couple that would shine out above the gruesome landlords.

Fun fact vance was actually the youngest actor in the show Lucy was older by a couple of years...

@FactsVerse

2 жыл бұрын

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@chuckpotockimusic2288

2 жыл бұрын

That's incorrect...Vance was two years older than Lucille Ball; they were born in 1909 and 1911, respectively. Actually, Desi Arnaz was the youngest, born in 1917.

@suestephan3255

2 жыл бұрын

Vivian born 1909 Lucy born 1911 and Desi 1916 he was 5 years younger that Lucy

So that's what happened. I always wondered why I am such a grump sometimes. The year William Frawley passed away I was born . . . Go figure.

I LOVE FRED AND ETHEL

Desi and Lucy mourned William Frawley death, they both loved him dearly and was great friends of his. even though Desi and Lucy was good friends with both William and Vivian, it put a strand on their relationship with the two. I liked William on I Love Lucy and My Three Sons and it wasn't just drinking he had to deal with the way some people treated him also played a part in how he behaved. Vivian made slick remark to Lucy and William heard some of them which put a bad taste in his mouth about Vivian. At that age William ego was already fragile Lucy even said that the media made it look like William and Vivian really hated each other but they didn't it wasn't that big of a deal plus William and Vivian had similar up bringing, they even thought alike, they both had parents that didn't like showbiz. Plus William was 30 years older than Vivian he was set in his ways and what makes people think that older and younger people could get along and than have to act as husband and wife on a tv show. And even though Vivian Vance was pretty and a good actress she had problem to, she talked about William on the set of I Love Lucy too and no matter what someone did to u that don't mean that you have to celebrate their death. THAT'S JUST HEARTLESS. Plus Lucy had to wait until Vivian was out of town just so she could have William on her show The Lucy Show and a month after William stared on the show, he died alone in his apartment he shared with his sister.

Most of the video did not relate to the title. Who said she opened champagne? Reference?

How mean spirited to celebrate a co-worker's death. Vivian started the feud on the first day of shooting when she loudly told everybody in the room "Nobody is going to believe I'm married to that old coot!" She wasn't exactly a spring chicken herself. She was 45 at the time and he was 66.

@eloiseockert9319

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn't the age gap though stated so, Frawley was short, fat and bald.

@hubbaman9885

2 жыл бұрын

Most men in their 60s aren't generally that fit, muscular, and look like a sports model. And women say we're critical on their looks I am 42 and often mistaken for looking 10 years older. Not fat or bald myself.

@ldchappell1

2 жыл бұрын

@@hubbaman9885 I'm the opposite. I'm 64 and people don't believe I'm that old. Some 50 year old guy in Walgreens called me "young man" yesterday. I still have all my hair and it's still the same color. I've stayed out of the sun so I hardly have any wrinkles. That's the outside. The inside is definitely a 64 year old man. I have two stents in my heart and an enlarged prostate. I have to keep nitro on hand and take 7 pills a day.

@kellygreen5556

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Vance didn't act like a lady but demanded to be treated as one. She was Miss America in her mind only.

@chuckschafer942

11 ай бұрын

LIKE I SAID I ONCE WENT TO A FUNERAL JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT HE WAS IN THE BOX "

If Bill Frawley left the bottle alone, he would have been better liked.

I thought Vivian Vance was Lucy's equal in talent. She was such a good actress.

@FactsVerse

8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. Which episode of the show appealed to you the most?

@raphaelna1

8 ай бұрын

@FactsVerse that's one of the hardest questions I've been asked. I'm not sure about episodes, but when Lucy pretends a mannequin is an old boyfriend to fool Ricky, that's one of my favorite moments. But there are so many more!

It's what we call Super Egos, and Drinking...that's sad to get that far out drunk...why because the studios just looked at their pockets not their stars...they should of had more counseling and hospitol holds to alcoholism..

Well Vivian was right to suck it up and because after one season the show was the most watched show on TV and continued that streak. Not just because she was friends with Desi & Lucy but she would have been foolish to leave. Frawley should have been reigned in fir being mean and abusive. He was told if you come to work drunk you will be replaced. He had to go many hours without drinking probably making him cranky.

Pretty cold blooded . . Plain and simple silence or one or two choice words would've been called for.

I like the part you talking about willame frawley

Of course, I had heard that the 2️⃣ hated each other. And I didn't like it when Fred made fun of Ethyl, implying she was fat, ( when she obviously wasn't ). I know that he said those things as Fred Mertz, but that did not endear him to me. In fact, I really don't like Mertz/Frawley at all.

Fred and Ethel are my favorite tv characters ever

@FactsVerse

2 жыл бұрын

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2 жыл бұрын

@@FactsVerse hazel, father knows best, mama’s family, Dennis the menace, leave it to beaver, bewitched, Andy griffith

@harperstacey9604

2 жыл бұрын

They were the perfect TV neighbors. From Ms. Harper Stacey.

I think if Vance kept her mouth shut I think Frawley would not been upset with her.

Did Vivian actually break out champagne in celebration? Or is that part made-up to further push a story?

@eloiseockert9319

2 жыл бұрын

It was true but the toast was exaggerated out of proportion. She was celebrating if you want to call it that, a great comedian had passed and was celebrating his life as a professional performer.

This is lazy reporting. The "feud" between Viv & Bill was when he overheard Viv stating how MUCH older his character was. Vivian was NOT "ugly" But, DID have to appear more "frumpy" than the star Lucille Ball. The therapy was NOT just because of Bill, but also of her then abusive husband as well. I'm also NOT sure a spin off series would have worked. The I Love Lucy show was a once in a lifetime ensemble cast despite the (behind the scenes DRAMA) A side note Barbara Pepper was to play Ethel. Once Bill was secured, Desi didn't want to have to deal w/ 2 alcoholics! Funny, as Desi was the lead Alcoholic! You know he had ties to Bacardi Rum (4 real though!)

@maddyhayes617

2 жыл бұрын

Remember when Lucy found the wedding certificate and Ricky's last name was mispelled and listed as Bicardi and she and Ricky traveled to Connecticut to have their vows renewed.....one of my favorite episodes.👍👍👍👍👍👍

@michaeltaylor1603

2 жыл бұрын

@@maddyhayes617 Or am I married to a rum factory? Yep! That was funny as ALL get OUT!

@eloiseockert9319

2 жыл бұрын

Desi's great grandfather was one of the founders. Just because of that doesn't necessarily mean that was the reason for Desi becoming an alcoholic.

I think this feud is as exaggerated as Joan and Bette. I'm sure Vivian Vance knew the chemistry and magic of I Love Lucy would be lost if Fred were younger and Ethel were more svelte. I've heard the "champagne" story before. If it's true I'm deeply disappointed in Vivian.

I liked Fred!!!

Frawley always had a 'Creep' vibe. You too?? I loved Vivian, she was a great actress and held her own with Lucy on stage!

Most surprising? Calling Vivian Vance the "ugly sidekick ".

So you clickbaited the video and mentioned one sentence at the end about her breaking out champagne… bravo 👏🏻….